overwatch-serious

[rare musk]

awww its u

[clever coral]

https://tenor.com/view/pibble-gif-8404313342629206599

[crystal socket]

some people who say weird things in overwatch matches should be on a watchlist i stg

[dry blaze]

accidently press q

[clever coral]

someone got filtered...

[crystal socket]

that was like a split second and yeet 😭

[grim lion]

Yeah.

I uh.

[crystal socket]

anyways please don't get freaky in overwatch matches it's weird

[dark scroll]

whatd they say

[clever coral]

no one ever gets freaky in my matches it's only typing noob

[regal elbow]

my matches are just racist

[crystal socket]

enough to get them banned so that'll be fun when the report gets processed 😂

[grim lion]

I was just saying I had a match where someone called me 4chan slang for girl.

[ashen acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/jjj-laugh-gif-14902144

[swift narwhal]

i honestly think vendettas lore gets overhated

[crystal socket]

oh nah it was much weirder than that, they were going a bit explicit

[grim lion]

Among other things.

[ashen acorn]

I dont think she is bad
But she certainly make me question her tactics

[dark scroll]

omg ur so cool reporting people

[grim lion]

No I meant the message that got filtered.

The other stuff I did not even try to say.

[regal elbow]

i just report throwers and cheaters

[crystal socket]

omg people don't want to hear about other people's freak habits during overwatch woweee

[ashen acorn]

Like why are you so hostile towards ashe
She fucking working for you
And you had the audacity to say she is a criminal that cares only for money

[swift narwhal]

her tactics are bad, cuz shes not a tactician, shes a full of herself narcissist who now got a taste of power

[clever coral]

is that the word that rhymes with lloyd

[grim lion]

Yeah.

[crystal socket]

oh LOL

[swift narwhal]

its the truth tho

[crystal socket]

did they autofilter that word now?

[grim lion]

Ig so.

[dark scroll]

🤓

[grim lion]

Auto warning.

[swift narwhal]

and ashe seems to prefer her seeing her like that cuz its simpler and honest

[crystal socket]

the rule to getting freaky is caring about consent and making sure a game with teenagers doesn't yanno, have one in the lobby 🙂

[dark scroll]

🤓

[swift narwhal]

her character and backstory work well together because it shows why shes so serious and full of herself

[grim lion]

I think it is because her revenge shit is literally written to be selfish and hollow.

Maybe that is good writing?

[swift narwhal]

i saw someone whine that "i cant feel bad for vendetta thus its a bad backstory"

[grim lion]

But it is not compelling.

[ashen acorn]

And it is true
Ashe is a criminal who cares about wealth
So why is vendetta so dissapointed with ashe not being loyal
Like dude, she is a criminals
As a person who puts many 1000s of hours studying crime
That like crime 101
You do stuff for money

[crystal socket]

unless someone actually wants to argue that adults should be explicit in front of kids 🤷‍♀️

[crystal socket]

huh, i just think she's whiny 😭

[swift narwhal]

because she is selfish, but it isnt hollow and the reasons behind her being like this are well layed out

[swift narwhal]

cuz she is

shes a narcisssitic pridefull person

those people WHINE

[crystal socket]

ikr? her dad was a mobster that helped the bad guys and got killed so like duh it was going to happen????

[dark scroll]

theyre prob also teenagers..

[crystal socket]

they were not 🥲

[grim lion]

Well no, entitlement is hollow, at least to me.

[rare musk]

i report someone like every game

[grim lion]

It is one of the reasons people hated the doom vendetta fight.

[crystal socket]

and like i don't want to be around teenagers being explicit to each other, that's weird

any adult who actively wants to be around kids doing that kinda stuff with each other is bad weird

[swift narwhal]

yes, and she goes basically about it, i loved my dad but I told him it would happen. how dare he not listen to ME. and then gets mad cuz yknow, the people dont give what "rightfully is mine!"

[ashen acorn]

I like her revenge story
The problem is vendetta clearly is a horrible leader and her plans is... very questionable

Which is a good thing

[crystal socket]

she's that one girl who gets turned into a blueberry in willy wonka

[swift narwhal]

i have gripes with it too, i still am in the camp of doom having lost on purpose cuz otherwise it doesnt make sense

[crystal socket]

like 100%

[ashen acorn]

I like her flaws is a result of the game due to her personality

[grim lion]

Absolutely.

[swift narwhal]

vendetta v doom is actually an equal fight power wise, it just doesnt work how she won

[clever coral]

overwatch

[swift narwhal]

vendetta v doom realistically is whoever hits first

[dark scroll]

Doom wins

[regal elbow]

doom lost on purpose

[rare musk]

GET ON THE GAME

[regal elbow]

it was to aura farm later when he comes back

[dark scroll]

doom copium

[crystal socket]

I like that's she's irrational when angry because that's a very human element that they typically don't explore much, like how they keep chastising Reaper for his reactions to provocation.

But like, the way she goes about it is the whiny part 😭

[swift narwhal]

and shes built to fail cuz of it. shes showing that shes way too short sighted to actually lead talon and way too pridefull so she thinks "nah my plan is great lets do it"

[clever coral]

I AM

[ashen acorn]

To be fair
I do believe doom was more rusty at fighting since we really never seen doom fight outside of the trailer
And that could be what, like years before

[crystal socket]

it's VERY very very rich white woman doesn't get her way story

[grim lion]

Well written char who is not compelling.

Reminds me of gustav from e33.

In that way.

[crystal socket]

she COULD be compelling though

[swift narwhal]

venture ahhh moment

[crystal socket]

they made her design really well thought out

[swift narwhal]

i do find her compelling tbh

[ashen acorn]

Has venture even been bothered to be mentioned

[swift narwhal]

yes

venture also is just well written

[dark scroll]

No

[crystal socket]

I don't honestly know much about Venture

I never see/hear anything in their lore stuff really

[swift narwhal]

but venture basically isnt really the typical "tragic backstory trauma" person

[ashen acorn]

I legit dont know anything about her
Like does she work for overwatch, does she her own things, like what does she do?

[swift narwhal]

theyre on their own but allied with overwatch through ana

[dark scroll]

when next hero

[crystal socket]

them, they're nonbinary

[swift narwhal]

theyve fought mauga

[ashen acorn]

She's a what?

[crystal socket]

nonbinary. Overwatch removed someone's partnership with them for not respecting their pronouns and gender identity lmao

whoopsies slipped up there 😭

[ashen acorn]

THe LBGT thing?

[crystal socket]

boy, there's been nonbinary people for thousands of years with different labels to them

[swift narwhal]

i think vendetta is compelling especially when u actually get into why shes like this and how she'll likely fall

[ashen acorn]

I live in the middle east
In an islamic country

[swift narwhal]

in roughly 4 weeks

[wicked gorge]

i keep noticing how ven got nerfed to the ground but they never bothered nerfing cass flash, emre, etc

[dark scroll]

oki

[crystal socket]

oh great, so you should know that the tribes there have nonbinary and so do the Middle Eastern Jews. They call it Ay'lonit for femme presenting/AFAB nonbinary people.

[wicked gorge]

and sierra too she melts everyone but no ones nerfing her

[swift narwhal]

sierra is kinda weird

[grim lion]

Which one is the next one?

[swift narwhal]

cuz shes not the best at her role

[swift narwhal]

japanese girl

[ashen acorn]

What?
I legit do not understand
Can we just drop this and discuss overwatch?

[dark scroll]

hand cannon leader of hashimoto

[dark scroll]

good idea

[grim lion]

The uh…fancy looking one with double pistols?

[swift narwhal]

we arent sure if shes the leader

[grim lion]

Supp or dps.

[dark scroll]

u told me she was?

[dark scroll]

dpps

[grim lion]

That is horrible.

[swift narwhal]

we dont officially know if she has double guns or her role

[grim lion]

Lil.

Why they releasing 3 dps in a row.

[dark scroll]

YOU TOLD ME SHES DPS TOO

[swift narwhal]

theres a leak of it but we arent completely sure of its validity

[grim lion]

Bar s1.

[swift narwhal]

according to leaks

[dark scroll]

this is the 2nd dps in a row

[swift narwhal]

we arent sure according to leaks

[dark scroll]

after her itll be either tank, or 2 sups ina row

[grim lion]

Vend sandwiched s1.

[swift narwhal]

kinda 3rd

[dark scroll]

im not counting that bruh

[grim lion]

S1 also had dps.

[swift narwhal]

its then s4 with dmon

[grim lion]

So technically 5 in a row.

[dark scroll]

dmon is s4?

Good

[swift narwhal]

yes

then double support

[dark scroll]

His design looks cool asf

[swift narwhal]

her

[dark scroll]

i thought this was dvas mech fixer

[swift narwhal]

its another korean meka pilot

[swift narwhal]

nope

that jaeyhun or however yo uspell it

[fervent pawn]

the word they isnt that difficult, i pray yall improve your primary schools

concerning

[swift narwhal]

this is dmon

[dark scroll]

drop it alr its getting cringe

[dark scroll]

her mech looks cool asf

[swift narwhal]

it got redesigned

[fervent pawn]

yes poor education in this day and age is cringe

[dark scroll]

poor education for you not for them

not every country has the same priorities as u

[dark scroll]

WHAT

WHY

[swift narwhal]

i hoped it was gonna be a gwishin copy of mekas but sadly that seems unlikely

[crystal socket]

gwishin?

[dark scroll]

bro the shield and sword look so cool 😭

[crystal socket]

🤔

[swift narwhal]

she still has it

[dark scroll]

ok ok good

from the leaks i saw she can like fly up to ppl to duel them

[crystal socket]

alkjsdfklasjdf god i had a beautiful pharah ult with an orisa who understood the assignment by ulting immediately after i started mine

[short berry]

Not very overwatch related (Besides venture) but if you can't at least be genuinely trying to use someones correct pronouns that is bad on ur part not the people expecting it

[dark scroll]

she seems fun asf

[fervent pawn]

takes a few moments to understand, why do u love ignorance?

[swift narwhal]

gwishin are the evil omnics meka fights off, known as highly adaptable omnics, so i hoped together with the angular design itd be a copy of mekas from ghwishin

[dark scroll]

Lets not talk bout this in an ow server

[crystal socket]

ohhhhhh where is that in the lore?

[swift narwhal]

dva story, multiple comics, her cinematic

hell even in game theres a gwishin skin on bastion

[crystal socket]

also is it a viable tactic to murder yourself to set every single enemy on fire with your anran ult 🤔 or is that silly talk

[dark scroll]

i wonder why they dont like grow hype for these things via small trailers etc

perfect oppurtunity

[swift narwhal]

this is one of these things

[crystal socket]

i didn't read any of the comics, the way they do it in game is just grating to me but i'll try to read up on it

[swift narwhal]

they did, people just never cared

[grim lion]

….not really, her base ult does that as well but is harder to dodge and does more dmg and also has a grouping effect.

[swift narwhal]

they posted everywhere about it always

[crystal socket]

OH those things, I've seen them but didn't know their name

[grim lion]

Iirc.

[swift narwhal]

those they fight are the gwishin

so i HOPED

[crystal socket]

oh so the phoenix is better if people are standing on it instead of using it while alive?

[red bough]

depends if ur team is there to clesn up the fight

[swift narwhal]

cuz this is so angular kinda like the gwishin

that it was gwishin copying her mech

[crystal socket]

they were indeed, they knew my goblin brain was going to straight up kill myself to ignite everyone 😭

[grim lion]

It is very contextual. Setting people on fire with no followup is free ult charge for them.

[red bough]

using it before u die is usually better but idk im not an anran player

[crystal socket]

oh my team got a full team kill doing it but i definitely died

[red bough]

i havent picked her in a match before i just know what ive seen most people do

[grim lion]

I think the rez is too slow and telegraphed with not enough utility to justify using it for damage.

[crystal socket]

i'm trying to learn her rn because you can't really be a good healer/support if you don't know how the other heroes work

[grim lion]

I think it is too slow for how fast fights are above mid rank.

[crystal socket]

it's why I learned every class in FFXIV to be a better healer

[grim lion]

If that makes sense.

[red bough]

i disagree

[crystal socket]

yeah i haven't used it to rez yet tbh, it seems like a waste

[red bough]

i fucking suck at tank and dps lol

[swift narwhal]

i just hope the next hero isnt the leader of hashimoto cuz thatd be hella anticlimactic, the leader of a major crime syndacite is a probably young girl with a gun. thats it? where are the opposing themes of shimada v hasimoto, tradition v progress etc?

[grim lion]

Not true even if I wish it was.

[crystal socket]

you don't have to be GOOD at the other characters but playing as them really helps understand how the heroes functions to know how to better anticipate their healing needs during fights

[grim lion]

Oh is your question about using the ult right before dying or engaging with it?

[dreamy solar]

p sure it is confirmed

[crystal socket]

yessss!

sorry i worded badly

[swift narwhal]

its not

people speculate and even the leaks state shes the leader of the kanekaza branch

[grim lion]

Oh engage with it on ult combos. Easily.

[swift narwhal]

not of hashimoto as a whole

[crystal socket]

it was a leaker, not the official staff so we don't actually know yet but it's plausible bc they leaked vendetta's abilities accurately

[grim lion]

Your ult is easy to deal with and you can be shot at solo.

[fervent pawn]

dunno i locked anran like twice she sucked ass and was very non fluid and never plahed her again

[red bough]

i just think playing them is entirely unnecessary, u should know what the heroes want to do in order anticipate them so u can beat them and play well with them but actualy picking the hero isnt necessary

[grim lion]

Shitty genji for weebs.

[crystal socket]

ok cool then i will dive bomb myself to death so my team can mow them down lmao

[swift narwhal]

leaker stated "leader of kanekaza branch"

not leader of hashimoto

[dreamy solar]

ohh interesting

[grim lion]

I mean it is more like you can use it when your idk zarya ults.

[swift narwhal]

and kanekaza is one of the newer things

[crystal socket]

not everyone learns like that 🤷‍♀️ although the best healers in games that I know have learned everyone they have to heal for classes or heroes and they're legit godtier without even trying so imma take their advice

[red bough]

i havrnt played tank or dps basically since szn 16 and i havent struggled to know what the new heroes r supposed to do or how to help/beat them, its just about knowing how ur heroes interact

[fervent pawn]

i already hate how genji dash camera locks u but somehow this anran hero feels worse, i love low quality content

[grim lion]

Instead of like being half dead and using it to….maybe put more pressure on.

[swift narwhal]

i think itll be done like she knew kiri and mizuki when they were younger and then wow she turned bad

[crystal socket]

ohhhhhhhhh or when the orisa does her whirlygig?

[grim lion]

Because the dash is not fast.

[grim lion]

Yeah.

Or reaper.

Etc.

You can use it to group for aoe ults.

Etc.

It has a boop in last I checked.

And applies flame and okay dmg.

[crystal socket]

i put on the pressure with it, ignite people, and get as many hits as I can dashing around weaving fans and hits

[red bough]

i am very likely better than them in overwatch relative to how good they are at whatever game they play 😓 but sure wtv

[grim lion]

Yeah having everyone on fire allows you to immediately fan.

[swift narwhal]

anran ult is very strong in dmg too

anran ult is honestly really great when u can get it off

[crystal socket]

they play overwatch but like are you champion/challenger?

[covert lynx]

lf chill duo 18+

[red bough]

yes

😭

[dreamy solar]

lily is infact her on overwatch

[grim lion]

Lily is one of if not the highest ranked person in this chat on supp.

[crystal socket]

cool, so you match them then 🤷‍♀️

[red bough]

2nd

[dry blaze]

oh my

[red bough]

doubt it

[restive ember]

are you challenger?

[red bough]

actually no

LOL

[grim lion]

Who is first rn?

[red bough]

i dont have an acc on t500

[red bough]

@restive ember

[grim lion]

Washed…

[restive ember]

me neither im endorsement one ❤️

[red bough]

hes the goat

[red bough]

LOL

[swift narwhal]

1 we have a lfg channel
2 ur name is not justann and u have ur bio as "spoil me"

[crystal socket]

so I should not listen to anyone I know that's top 500? okie

[tawdry sinew]

they dont endorse you because of your weight

[dreamy solar]

bro slurred again

[fervent pawn]

anyone getting cha... wait a minute

[red bough]

i just havent been playing on a t500 eligible account lol

[restive ember]

im sorry

[crystal socket]

did you get knocked down from endorsement 5? 🤔

[dreamy solar]

i mean t500 literally can dip into M5

[restive ember]

i got spam reported by some guy because according to him i didnt play well unlucky

[grim lion]

Lily is good but has ego so listen to what she has to say about interactions at least.

[dreamy solar]

🥀

[grim lion]

T500 is arbitrary.

Etc.

[dreamy solar]

can

[red bough]

i got silenced on my c4 acc for saying "just bc our teammates r doing bad doesnt mean u aren't also doing shit" :/ the guy was perma complaining snd tbf he wasnt exactly wrong

[dreamy solar]

i meant can

[red bough]

but he was also shit

[crystal socket]

I understand, my friends are also good but dropped the ego so I prefer to listen to them yanno?

[tawdry sinew]

why are we calling someone acknowledging the fact they are better than you ego

it's not ego

[grim lion]

Absolutely valid.

[crystal socket]

like no disrespect, it just vibes with me better for advice

[swift narwhal]

lily can be pretty ego

[dreamy solar]

idk how im not perma’d on this game

maybe nobody reports on console

[restive ember]

lily always egos me

[swift narwhal]

again, lily is better than 90% here that basically everyone knows

[tawdry sinew]

yeah Ur ass bud.

[red bough]

its just pointless and wasted effort if ur only learning other heroes to get better at the ones u wanna play

[dreamy solar]

but even on pc i was a shit talker

[grim lion]

Assuming nuisance t500 friends in other games are automatically worse at those games than lily is indeed ego.

[crystal socket]

it requires too much typing probably 😭

[red bough]

learn the hero u wanna play not the ones u dont

[grim lion]

Lol.

[crystal socket]

nothing is pointless and no effort is wasted if people learn something out of it, yanno?

[restive ember]

im sorry champ 1 winston otp

[tawdry sinew]

i miss winston overwatch

[regal elbow]

i dont get it why would u learn heroes u dont want to play

[dreamy solar]

but theres nothing to really learn other than the basics of what the abilities do

[fervent pawn]

i trust that jackie chun guy who said something about kicking many times

[red bough]

it lowk is because its just worse if thats ur only goal for learning those heroes

[tawdry sinew]

can we make him not ass again

please

[swift narwhal]

makes the game more enjoyable + makes you often learn better

[tawdry sinew]

can he be playable

[regal elbow]

unless its like launch mauga or some shit but its not like mauga was that hard

[swift narwhal]

meta

[tawdry sinew]

so i can enjoy this fuck ass game

[crystal socket]

that's the point, I don't learn that by reading. I have to do. It's super common for neurodivergent people tbh.

[regal elbow]

usually meta heroes arent like

[grim lion]

You should play multiple heroes because you want to learn about the game holistically, but playing multiple heroes to get better at a small handful is inefficient. @crystal socket

[regal elbow]

this complicated tho

[dreamy solar]

if ur playing ur best role then you’ll find people at ur best rank that play the heroes you want to try to fight against

[red bough]

that second part is just kappachungusdeluxewithfries though

[grim lion]

Like I get the urge.

[tawdry sinew]

true

[crystal socket]

to you it is but it's a good thing that's just your opinion, yanno?

[dreamy solar]

which are likely way better than you at them

[restive ember]

if you hit a couple of drinks first sure... dw only mauga dva hazard zarya ball are better than him rn

[grim lion]

But you get more reps and interactions by playing your specific hero.

[swift narwhal]

obv

[grim lion]

Into those people.

[red bough]

no 😭

like literally no

[tawdry sinew]

right so hes like basically s tier

🥹

[red bough]

wam got that

[crystal socket]

I've found a few I don't mind playing for more than just learning how they work tbh but my main role is support regardless

[swift narwhal]

lily how do you feel bout vend now did she get the mauga effect that now that shes worse she actually is hard

[dreamy solar]

typing and eating is so hard omg

[fervent pawn]

but when i say i wanna practice ball and him getting banned was impeding it I'm a stupid idoit dumb

[tawdry sinew]

are you saying mauga is hard

[crystal socket]

oh i didn't know your opinion was written in stone for all to gaze at and ponder as the only correct way to learn or play the game. wild!

[fervent pawn]

nooticing

[swift narwhal]

when he was ass he was cuz he couldnt just brrrt everything

[crystal socket]

like, you might notice not everyone fawns over the egos of overwatch

[grim lion]

Yeah like I play everyone despite knowing it is inefficient, but that is because I like doing it and having a holistic approach to the game. But if I wanted to get much better at my mains I would just be playing them.

[pale fulcrum]

Juno is so trash

I hate this hero

[red bough]

its just less efficient snd if u wanna learn the heroes u want to learn u should play those heroes

[tawdry sinew]

i mean, it's just objectively true

[red bough]

like its just like

idk

[dreamy solar]

loud incorrect buzzer

[red bough]

how to explain

[pale fulcrum]

I genuinely cant imagine people use her in anything that isnt gold

[red bough]

without u getting upset abt it

[tawdry sinew]

u don't have to play zarya to know how her bubbles work

and to learn the windows for killing zarya

[swift narwhal]

to have on ur team / play or to fight?

[tawdry sinew]

those are true to your heroes anyways

[crystal socket]

is it really that inefficient if you're having fun and you're learning things from it? like, i didn't expect to like anran considering my DPS used to be mostly Pharah

[dire phoenix]

I think ur just trash at Juno respectfully

[grim lion]

Not get so invested in how people react to what you say.

[tawdry sinew]

so you should play your heroes vs zarya to learn how to play vs zarya

it'

s that simple

[red bough]

instead u can learn how ur heroes take advantage of it by doing it urself

[tawdry sinew]

^^^^^

[swift narwhal]

cuz like yeah juno isnt hard meta now but saying shes anywhere close to bad?

[crystal socket]

opinions are just opinions. everyone has one and they like to shove it in people's faces as the one true way.

[long yoke]

Junos solid rn

[tawdry sinew]

?

[long yoke]

The movement nerf was uncalled for but shes not bad by any stretch

[grim lion]

Well it can be efficient for one thing and not the other. It is efficient for learning about the game as a whole and highly inefficient for learning a specific char.

[tawdry sinew]

saying that playing zarya is different than knowing how zarya works is not an opinion

it's just two different things

and in fact

playing zarya

[red bough]

practicing the skills u will actually use is broken as fuck when ur trying to ... improve the skills you will actually use

[tawdry sinew]

will not teach you to recognize the windows to kill zarya

playing vs zarya on your usual heroes will

[regal elbow]

realistically the average person only needs to know like 3 heroes per role

[swift narwhal]

solo q is better for learning a specific hero while flex is better at learning the entire game IMHO

[long yoke]

Realisticly you dont even need this

[swift narwhal]

if you know the game, solo q will help you more in the long run

[red bough]

people dont need to play other roles if they just wanna get good at 1 of them

[long yoke]

If you arent picking hard meta you need 2 max ngl

[dire phoenix]

Alr we’re being a bit dramatic by saying posting a comment on a public server is “shoving in ur face”

[regal elbow]

well yeah obviously u can also choose not to play other roles

but most people play all 3 to some extent

[tawdry sinew]

you don't need to know every aspect of how to play the game to be insanely good at it, you just need to know your aspect of playing the game

[dire phoenix]

Never understood when people say that online

[tawdry sinew]

someone playing soldier will have an entirely different experience than someone playing mercy

or rein

[crystal socket]

it will teach me her timings and pace that she can realistically go at though and that helps me anticipate what my team is going to do in response, that's a valuable lesson right there to me. i also like learning and i'm not lazy 🤷‍♀️

[red bough]

and by the sounds of it they just wanna improve on supp and they said they r learning anran to do that

[regal elbow]

i think knowing how to play 3 heroes is just a good baseline now with hero bans too

[fervent pawn]

no i click on "all roles" so i only get to play ball

[regal elbow]

i suppose from one perspective by playing a dive hero u can understand why u lose against supports

[swift narwhal]

i know, im saying that flexing helps as i said, understand the game better as a whole, but if u understand the game already mainign a certain hero will help u better in the long run cuz u get to learn what makes ur hero work or not

[red bough]

just look at what ur dying to snd why

[grim lion]

The issue with this is you playing that character only reinforces your abilities on that character, rather than the diverse abilities of other players on that character.

[regal elbow]

like u can analyze what the enemy support is doing vs what ur not doing

[red bough]

and then work out how not to

[crystal socket]

no, you vastly misunderstood. i am learning all the heroes but i'm actually expanding upon anran because i enjoy her while learning her pacing of attack/abillities.

[grim lion]

Does that make sense?

[regal elbow]

if ur shit at ana tho ur better off just playing more ana

[grim lion]

You are taking in less diverse info about that char and importantly less consistent info about how they interact with your main.

[regal elbow]

than playing a random dps

[dire phoenix]

This guy gets it it’s so much easier to get good at the game by playing max 2 MAYBE 3 heros per role instead of learning every one and switching for “counter picks”

[swift narwhal]

yes, however in higher ranked its better to be amazing at 1 or 3 character than okay at all of the role

[crystal socket]

you can do both things, i still play the heroes i plan on maining for support 😂

[grim lion]

I am against playing all of the role for the avg player as a learning tool for a specific one.

[regal elbow]

if u can play one hs u can virtually play most hitscans

[restive ember]

@red bough @tawdry sinew both big noobs stoopid

[grim lion]

I literally said playing everyone is fine.

[regal elbow]

same with brawl or dive tanks broadly

[tawdry sinew]

true

im noob

[grim lion]

Just that it is not efficient.

[tawdry sinew]

actually

[swift narwhal]

my advice personally is always have a few characters per role and main em for a while to learn them

[crystal socket]

surprisingly ana was one of my old mains, i'm not a huge fan of how she works right now though

[tawdry sinew]

im only fortnite professional

boxfight warrior

[regal elbow]

support probably has the most variability hero to hero

in terms of playstyle

[dire phoenix]

Exactly the rest of the stuff is just mechanical details you pick up with experience

[swift narwhal]

id say dps has it still

[grim lion]

I am literally saying one tricking teaches you better on that char than playing diverse char.

Lol.

[regal elbow]

if u split dps between hs and fdps i dont think so

[swift narwhal]

fdps still would

[crystal socket]

I don't have time constraints so efficiency isn't something I need to budget for. It teaches me things that I will need to know and that will help, it's how I climbed ranks when playing OW1, how I did savage/mythic raiding in MMOs, and how I plan on coming back to OW2

[red bough]

if you WANT TO then go for it, but if you want to learn specific heroes the best way to do that is entirely just to PLAY THAT HERO AND GET EXPERIENCE AS THEM. thats what im trying to say, you ARE going to learn slower but if thats what you wanna do no one will stop u

[dire phoenix]

100%

[swift narwhal]

you have flankers, enablers, disruptors etc etc etc

sym doesnt play anywhere close to say venture

[crystal socket]

you're looking at what i'm doing very one dimensionally and that's not exactly my problem

[tawdry sinew]

fdps has sombra, torb and junkrat on the same category

it's def the most varied

[dire phoenix]

Also sticking to that character during unfavorable matchups cause then u gotta learn to play around that too making u even better

[foggy halo]

Dive Symm is real, you're just not good enough

[regal elbow]

W

[grim lion]

Yeah I am not saying there is a way you need to do anything mate, I am just explaining why playing other chars is not good for helping you learn how to deal with them.

[tawdry sinew]

and venture/vendetta now too i guess

[grim lion]

😭

[swift narwhal]

id say its fdps support tank hs as in "uniqueness" of kits

[grim lion]

Not in this game at least.

[swift narwhal]

sym too no?

[tawdry sinew]

just give up, they're not reading what we're saying

[swift narwhal]

or mei

[foggy halo]

The hell does fdps mean?

[red bough]

its fdps tank ms fs hs i think

[regal elbow]

flex

[foggy halo]

Ah

[crystal socket]

idk it helped me get really far in the ranks in OW1 so it'll take longer because more heroes but I plan on using that knowledge well

[foggy halo]

The old terms

[tawdry sinew]

i guess mei is another good example

[red bough]

flex dps ?

[tawdry sinew]

sym is too but

[foggy halo]

I'd forgotten about those

[tawdry sinew]

bad example for ladder

[red bough]

what have u been calling them 😭

[regal elbow]

i dont think tank has all that variability

[swift narwhal]

yeah id agree but im bad at telling who main or flex supp is so i didnt argue for it

[tawdry sinew]

hitscan and... those other ones...

[crystal socket]

The list of fdps is a lot bigger than I thought it'd be tbh

[regal elbow]

like if u can play ram u can probably play every brawl tank to a decent level

[red bough]

u tell me ram and monkey play the same

[dire phoenix]

Idk about that one

[crystal socket]

i lit hate ram so much 😭

[swift narwhal]

its basically anything that isnt "ranged consistent dmg"

[tawdry sinew]

queen and sig

same hero

lowk

[regal elbow]

no but doom and monkey play similarly

[red bough]

dva and hog and doom

[foggy halo]

Hitscan & projectile.
Flex and nonflex is a meaningless label unless you're operating in highly coordinated play.

[red bough]

but ram is also a tank

[dire phoenix]

Also don’t know about that one

[tawdry sinew]

so do cass and emre

so do venture and vendetta

[crystal socket]

yeah and the term for fdps in MMOs is different so it's just kinda funny

[regal elbow]

yeah thats why i said if u can play one hs

u can basically play every hs

[dire phoenix]

Dps is way different than tank tho

[tawdry sinew]

tracer and sombra play the same

[crystal socket]

anyways back to learning anran 🫡

[red bough]

PROJECTILE IS FAKE BECAUSE SOJ FREJA HANZO AND SIERRA ARE ALL HITSCAN HEROES IN THESE CATEGORIES. im not mad i just started typing in caps and decided not to stop

[swift narwhal]

theres quite a lot, haz ram ball domina jqrein hog all play very fundementally different even though having some similarities often

[regal elbow]

no they dont

[tawdry sinew]

^^^^

and tracer/sombra are typically fdps

[dire phoenix]

Be fr

[tawdry sinew]

despite being hitscan

[regal elbow]

and they dont play the same

[tawdry sinew]

ok stop

[regal elbow]

at all

[red bough]

reaper is technically hitscan

[tawdry sinew]

it was true

[foggy halo]

I chose to believe ur mad.

[restive ember]

thanks for clarifying that you arent mad i got scared already

[tawdry sinew]

when i played this game

hundreds of years ago

[grim lion]

Yes but this is also why high rank players also hold on to horrific takes as they rank up because they think their ability to hit said rank validates all of their strategies and nonsense even if they only climbed because of one or two efficiencies at best. Same phenomenon seen with superstition in pro sports. Misattributing your process to being the reason for your success without removing other factors or confirming it through repetition.

[red bough]

yea i just dont want someone to say "why r u so pressed"

[swift narwhal]

hitscan role aside from like freja id argue plays super similar

[restive ember]

why r u so pressed

[swift narwhal]

freja i feel is the most unique of them

[tawdry sinew]

30yo btw

[regal elbow]

the way i look at is like

[crystal socket]

honestly, i've seen a lot of ranked players just have horrific takes in general and think that they are the end all be all of how to play OW which usually ends up being their downfall lmao

[regal elbow]

theres a large difference between dive and brawl

but between individual dive and brawl tanks not significantly

[swift narwhal]

even within dive and brawl they all do play vastly different

[grim lion]

Yeah, which is why I am pointing out your logic is the same.

[regal elbow]

theres maybe outliers like ball or hog

[swift narwhal]

especially dive

[grim lion]

I fully support playing for fun and playing everyone.

[crystal socket]

For me, it's a tried and true thing that helps me. If it helps someone else cool but they don't have to do it.

[regal elbow]

but i dont see how widely different doom is to monkey or hazard or ram is to jq or zar

[swift narwhal]

if we count their main "focus" their entire playstyle

[regal elbow]

like i think if u can play one of the three u could probably pick up the other 2 faster than usual

[swift narwhal]

faster yes

obv

cuz u learn the playstyle

[foggy halo]

All in all tho. I divide them like that because those labels are simplistic and get the job done equally as well if not better because the vast majority of players understand the divide along with their strengths and weaknesses already.

[dire phoenix]

Faster yeah but not “exactly the same”

[grim lion]

Well yes, but that is why I said what I said. It is not consistently replicable so it is flimsy at best to claim that the process itself is responsible for success.

[swift narwhal]

if u dont know how to dive ull also suck as vendetta but if ur already a dive tank player ull do better on her

[dire phoenix]

Ur basically saying if you learn how to dive you’ll be better at dive hero’s

[red bough]

i completely entirely disagree in every possible way

[swift narwhal]

its the same principle cross roles

[tawdry sinew]

but you just pointed out how there are different distinct categories in the tank role

so

the tank role has variety

[foggy halo]

[dry blaze]

sojourns ult is kinda mid

[swift narwhal]

.. what?

[restive ember]

i completely entirely agree in every possible way with you

[regal elbow]

within the whole role within the 2 subroles i dont think so

[dire phoenix]

Sojourns ult is as good as the person using it

[tawdry sinew]

people js saying whatever in here

[regal elbow]

apart from hog and ball they might be outliers

[tawdry sinew]

LMFAOAOOAO

[swift narwhal]

yknow what guys, soj ult is ass cuz i dont hit stuff

[dry blaze]

yeah das truwe

[swift narwhal]

we must buff it

[dire phoenix]

Fr lmao

[grim lion]

The only roles on dps is good heroes that are ethical and bad heroes which are unethical.

[tawdry sinew]

remember when soj release took months to nerf cause she was 40% under masters

[idle kernel]

It's very situational

[tawdry sinew]

[dry blaze]

I never said any of that

[crystal socket]

It's been a consistent replication across all games I play for myself. The data will vary for each person as each person has different brains and learns differently. I genuinely don't care what process they take, although I do think that people who have innate knowledge from playing a character intimately will know more than someone who just reads/watches things about them just from watching my friends who can play literally any character well in most games.

[tawdry sinew]

it's not situational

[red bough]

projectile brings in soj freja hanzo and whatever other projectile primary hs heroes there are, but fdps is just talking abt the heroes in the fdps category which is just completely a better way to talk abt it

[dry blaze]

mediocrity does not mean ass

[swift narwhal]

alright so what does zaryas core have in common with ram

[grim lion]

Yes but that is because your processing is responsible, not the process.

[tawdry sinew]

that ult is not mediocre

it's game winning

[swift narwhal]

oh no i meant legit about myself

[tawdry sinew]

by itself

[swift narwhal]

cuz im ass

[dire phoenix]

Metal rank players when the ult consists of more than just pressing q:

[swift narwhal]

i somehow miss more when i pop soj ult

[dry blaze]

its just not very exciting

[crystal socket]

Good ol neurodivergency do the funny brain thing, that's for sure.

[swift narwhal]

probs cuz pressure

[swift narwhal]

that i agree on

[tawdry sinew]

you have not watched a good soj player ult

[swift narwhal]

its a boring ult

[idle kernel]

You need to have a group of players on half health to make use of it

[swift narwhal]

eh the ult is pretty boring

[red bough]

thank you pingu i love you so much my dear friend!

[tawdry sinew]

? 😭

[dry blaze]

I have never watched any good player of any hero ult

[regal elbow]

they both have cycling between block and shield zars bubbles

[swift narwhal]

but it is powerfull

[dry blaze]

this doesnt mean anything

[red bough]

boring but insanely strong

[restive ember]

yeah i think using hitscan and projectile labels is kinda useless anyways? cuz what are we labeling for, while hs and fdps is actually talking about the two roles

[dire phoenix]

Calling Sojourns ult mid is like calling dragonblade mid its entirely dependent on who is using it

[red bough]

i was sojourn abusing when playing dps todsy

[crystal socket]

i don't think i've really played with any sojourns tbh, what is her ult?

[red bough]

blade is so much worse than oc

[late pilot]

traveling back in time to rename hitscan to main dps

[regal elbow]

most projectiles dont have fall off

so theres an important distinction

[tawdry sinew]

railgun charges by itself

[swift narwhal]

except zaryas core is more about trying to force you to shoot bubble which is already very different, her ability to protect and cleanse others already is very different making that say if i wanna play ram and he gets banned, i wont think oh well zarya basically plays the same. if emre gets banned i could still go another hitscan and do close to the same

[tawdry sinew]

multiple uses

[dire phoenix]

It’s probably gonna be trash if ur not a good genji or a good sojourn

[dry blaze]

"you'll like it more if you watch someone else have fun playing her"

[restive ember]

cool now what

[crystal socket]

just extra ammo or damage charge?

[dire phoenix]

The damage output is absolutely bonkers

Gotta hit ur shots tho

[regal elbow]

i mean if we really wanna break it down

[tawdry sinew]

railgun (right click) charge

[red bough]

blade has many risks in pressing it, oc literally doesnt aside from it making u a priority target, which shoudlnt matter if u pressrd it in a good spot

[regal elbow]

how similar is cass and emre

outside of being hs

[swift narwhal]

yup my point exactly. i find it a mad forgettable ult but the value it has is insane

[crystal socket]

that does sound insanely boring

at least she has the fun wheee slide movement

[tawdry sinew]

that depends what you constitute as boring

i enjoy being a hitscan on steroids

[red bough]

enjoyable to play with but the ult concept is boring

imo

[tawdry sinew]

i find it fun

[swift narwhal]

in overal playing at the end of the day you have the same goal, range and style of doing stuff.

[tawdry sinew]

idk i think it's fun to ult as soj

[crystal socket]

i don't really play hitscan so those are my least fave characters

[regal elbow]

thats so vague u can say that about anyone

[red bough]

yeah i do too

but like

[swift narwhal]

not really

[dire phoenix]

I would say lazy design is the better word instead of boring

[tawdry sinew]

u can say the same about soldier ult though

[regal elbow]

monkey and ball have the same goal its diving someone and hopefully killing them

[red bough]

more railgun isnt exactly an interesting concept

[tawdry sinew]

it's definitely fun

[slate quest]

whats a GOATS team comp for 6v6 like the best replica of it

[dire phoenix]

Like the ult is just ur normal fire but….faster

[swift narwhal]

ram and zarya do not play at the same place generally, does not do the exact same job nor has the same core idea plus ults are very different in job

[regal elbow]

ow bread and butter

[dire phoenix]

Doesn’t necessarily mean it’s boring to play but it’s definitely on the lazier less creative sides of ultimates

[swift narwhal]

both cass and emres ults are hide or die (though one better at it) too

[tawdry sinew]

not necessarily, simpler concepts are not always lazy, they're necessary for game design

[regal elbow]

they do have the same core idea being that they’re both brawl tanks

which u can say about emre and cass

they’re both hs

[tawdry sinew]

say what you will you can't say overwatch kits as a whole are lazy

[red bough]

i got accused of cheating in masters earlier bc my fps is too shit

[regal elbow]

the black sheep of brawl tanks if anyone is hog

[dire phoenix]

I’m just saying it’s not very creative at all

[regal elbow]

he doesnt play like any tank

[grim lion]

Yeah like I am not telling you to stop or that it does not work for you. I am saying that process is not the root cause of getting better, only the vehicle your brain has selected to learn. What causes people to get better generally speaking across multiple brain types is reps and access to data. For most people the more data they get (one tricking) the faster they learn. You might need specific kinds of data to make progress, but you needing that specific kind of data is not the cause for you ranking up, rather it is just the way your brain filters data. The reason the community views one tricking as superior is because it is the most data possible in the least time against the most relevant threats. That is all. Concerns put aside about your own skill compromising the range of data you get by playing other heroes about them. (Which is significant for even the best players).

[regal elbow]

or any hero at all

[dire phoenix]

Like nothing is changed no new ability is used

[regal elbow]

Yeah like I am not telling you to stop or that it does not work for you. I am saying that process is not the root cause of getting better, only the vehicle your brain has selected to learn. What causes people to get better generally speaking across multiple brain types is reps and access to data. For most people the more data they get (one tricking) the faster they learn. You might need specific kinds of data to make progress, but you needing that specific kind of data is not the cause for you ranking up, rather it is just the way your brain filters data. The reason the community views one tricking as superior is because it is the most data possible in the least time against the most relevant threats. That is all. Concerns put aside about your own skill compromising the range of data you get by playing other heroes about them. (Which is significant for even the best players).

[swift narwhal]

eh i wouldnt call it lazy either, it fits for what she does and fits into the kit, its just not very like "wow i just did that!"

[tawdry sinew]

i mean, if this game only had wuyangs and ventures it would not be nearly as fun as it is

[swift narwhal]

almost all of the hitscan ults follow the formula of hide or die

[crystal socket]

I understand why I do what I do, fyi 😭 Other people did not seem to realize why and I wasn't about to explain it to them because that isn't my problem lmao.

[red bough]

Yeah like I am not telling you to stop or that it does not work for you. I am saying that process is not the root cause of getting better, only the vehicle your brain has selected to learn. What causes people to get better generally speaking across multiple brain types is reps and access to data. For most people the more data they get (one tricking) the faster they learn. You might need specific kinds of data to make progress, but you needing that specific kind of data is not the cause for you ranking up, rather it is just the way your brain filters data. The reason the community views one tricking as superior is because it is the most data possible in the least time against the most relevant threats. That is all. Concerns put aside about your own skill compromising the range of data you get by playing other heroes about them. (Which is significant for even the best players).

[grim lion]

I thought you thought I did not know. 😭

[regal elbow]

lily how do i get good at tank

[swift narwhal]

Yeah like I am not telling you to stop or that it does not work for you. I am saying that process is not the root cause of getting better, only the vehicle your brain has selected to learn. What causes people to get better generally speaking across multiple brain types is reps and access to data. For most people the more data they get (one tricking) the faster they learn. You might need specific kinds of data to make progress, but you needing that specific kind of data is not the cause for you ranking up, rather it is just the way your brain filters data. The reason the community views one tricking as superior is because it is the most data possible in the least time against the most relevant threats. That is all. Concerns put aside about your own skill compromising the range of data you get by playing other heroes about them. (Which is significant for even the best players).

[red bough]

play tank

newfound op strat

[regal elbow]

i played tank and deranked 5 divisions

[viscid ore]

Words

[tawdry sinew]

play supports according to nuisance

[crystal socket]

No, no I have a deep fascination to learning most topics so long as I don't find it boring. Brain science tickles a funny part of the brain because it's helped me understand a lot about myself. My neurologist often gets surprised at my well of knowledge.

[swift narwhal]

i do agree but it does work for what she does

[grim lion]

Huh?

[viscid ore]

Sarcastic or not you're actively watching what your tank is doing right and wrong

[regal elbow]

idk who said it but someone said maroon is potential man without the potential

[tawdry sinew]

and that is not teaching you how to apply those concepts to your gameplay

cause guess what

[red bough]

hes a m*n

[tawdry sinew]

the only way to do that

[grim lion]

This is more relevant than playing said supports kit to the role of tank lol.

[tawdry sinew]

is to apply those concepts to your gameplay

[regal elbow]

he’s a leprechaun

[crystal socket]

Neurologist is a brain doctor more or less, she doesn't often get patients who know much about brains or how they work.

[grim lion]

I…know what a fuckin neuro is.

😭

[viscid ore]

Goalposts: moved. And I do also tank though as not as much these days. Never said to not actually tank to learn

[dire phoenix]

Yeah I’m not arguing the practical use of it I definitely think it’s a really good ult that fits her kit and people who think it isn’t are simply bad at the character/aiming but the fact that it doesn’t add anything to the kit itself is why I’m calling it one of the less creative ults in the game

[lilac vortex]

no u dont

however

i do

[grim lion]

Omg dark lord tell me more.

[lilac vortex]

i cant

im scared for my life

[grim lion]

Shame on you.

[lilac vortex]

nobody told me how scary 3 am is outside

theres a monster watching me im so certain

[grim lion]

Oh I need to talk to you about something.

Dms.

[lilac vortex]

🫪

[regal elbow]

guys

i got a legendary brig skin

[restive ember]

i̯̪̜͢͞ț̷̈́͐s͆̄ͤͬͅ b̞̲̈́͋ē͐̉̎ͅh͇͂̄ͯ͝in_ d̴͚ y͔͒̊̃̕ơ̶̶͌́u̷͙͈͖͌

[regal elbow]

i have been playing since she was added and this is the first time i got a legendary brig skin

[viscid ore]

Why can't you play poker on the African Savanna?

There's too many cheetahs.

[lilac vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/pita-a-horse-is-here-gif-3838550382478913993

[regal elbow]

this lobby is voting paraiso over lijiang

???

[dry blaze]

dis my fault

[tawdry sinew]

blames his team
does not have any outstanding stat whatsoever

[regal elbow]

that lw sucks

[tawdry sinew]

their bap has 1 kill

this was just a 5v5

[dry blaze]

i blamed myself

??

[tawdry sinew]

oh

then ur good

it looked like sarcasm

[dry blaze]

cant read...

[restive ember]

stupid champ 1 winston otp

[tawdry sinew]

im going to strangle you

[swift narwhal]

i still think one of the least creative ults is rams but its understandable cuz it was rushed

for those who dont know ram was rushed cuz he got swapped with mauga

however his ult he was gonna have wouldve been worse for the game so we should be kinda gratefull he was rushed

[crystal socket]

Oh you seemed confused 😭 Idk what someone else knows or don't tho.

[grim lion]

I just thought you talking about how proud your neuro is of you was weird given the context.

Like nothing wrong with it.

[noble holly]

meow

[long yoke]

so true

[grim lion]

I hope you find a small coin in the street.

[noble holly]

ty

[swift narwhal]

to me most boring ults tho
widow, soldier and soj
they dont really give "more" to the playstyle like say mercy, they dont really feel exciting

[crystal socket]

LMAO. It's more to illustrate my depth in diving into things that interest me but feel free to find that weird I guess

[grim lion]

Well no, the finding interest in diving into things is not the weird part.

[swift narwhal]

any other ults we can easily call boring?

[grim lion]

I had already said I do the same thing with ow.

[long yoke]

nano is tbh

but its a bit iconic atp

[swift narwhal]

eh i disagree

cuz it has multiple ways of using it + allows for super cool moments

together with the speed boost perk n all

[crystal socket]

ye, although idk if you're also neurodivergent 🤔 you don't gotta tell me though

[long yoke]

fair enough

speed boost perk is lowkey aids

and should be shot

but thats another thing

[grim lion]

Nope.

[swift narwhal]

to me the most boring ones are the ones that barely change stuff

[grim lion]

Or at least.

[swift narwhal]

ram is basically saved by being in "fun bonk bonk bonk" mode for longer so its atleast a lil fun to use

[grim lion]

Not in an asd way.

[heady kettle]

when im playing overwatch and venture looks at me directly and says "nobody will believe you"

[grim lion]

Like getting deep into topics is not a nueroatypical exclusive thing by any means lol that would be absurd.

[swift narwhal]

venture after brutally drilling a hole in your stomache

like can we talk about how brutal ventures melee actually is tho?

[heady kettle]

slight tickle maybe

[swift narwhal]

imagine fighting someone, whos just smiling and having fun and suddenly they drill into your body

[heady kettle]

#hot

#needthat

[swift narwhal]

with a drill the size of half their body

[crystal socket]

i am unfortunately both adhd and autistic 😭

and no, it's not an exclusive thing but i do find it interesting when other neurodivergents learn in a similar way

[swift narwhal]

STELLA WTF

[heady kettle]

what

[swift narwhal]

okay

uh

[tawdry sinew]

nah let em cook

[swift narwhal]

with a drill

[tawdry sinew]

oookay stella

[heady kettle]

#keyboardlag

[tawdry sinew]

maybe get out the kitchen

[swift narwhal]

like the drill that is like, idk? 0.4 meter squared?

[heady kettle]

#ineedanewkeyboard

[swift narwhal]

maybe bit less

[heady kettle]

im tweaking rn

[tawdry sinew]

you are just begging for stella to say something bad

[heady kettle]

its cold

[swift narwhal]

its hard to tell

[heady kettle]

and my bus is takinh iys sweet time

[swift narwhal]

dude HAVE YOU SEEN HOW WIDE IT IS THO THATD DRILL THROUGH AN ENTIRE PERSOn

[tawdry sinew]

come on man

[heady kettle]

heh

[tawdry sinew]

u gotta see whats wrong with how ur saying that

[swift narwhal]

and meanwhile venture is smiling at you

[swift narwhal]

its brutal

and yet venture smiles at you

saying theyll dig you

[upbeat vessel]

What's wrong with it

[heady kettle]

venture smiling while they use they use they big drill on me

[swift narwhal]

get your mind outta the gutter

[grim lion]

Alright lol.

[upbeat vessel]

Ong

[swift narwhal]

like isnt this terrifying?

[heady kettle]

dude its COLD!!!

[swift narwhal]

their melee and right click would be terrifying to face irl

[light violet]

27 days…

[heady kettle]

probs

[swift narwhal]

probs the most painfull melee in the game

cuz its also slow

[fervent pawn]

get drilled nerd

[dry blaze]

flashpoint 🔥

[heady kettle]

as long as i dony steal artifcats it alr

[heady kettle]

#need

[swift narwhal]

it slowly drills through your body

[fervent pawn]

wait no dont enjoy it

[heady kettle]

heh

[noble holly]

yo guys

[dry blaze]

slop

[noble holly]

how to get better

[swift narwhal]

like atleast with winton or orisa when u get meleed u die instantly

[noble holly]

at dva

actually no

that space hero girl

[swift narwhal]

cuz like, head trauma

[heady kettle]

ao3 writers:

[noble holly]

i bought her pink fit just to die like 50 times

[tawdry sinew]

play her

[dry blaze]

hugging juno and anran

[noble holly]

as her

[noble holly]

i did

[tawdry sinew]

think consciously about what ur doing

if u make a mistake recognize it and try not to repeat it

then

when u do this enough times

u will be better

[noble holly]

i see

[rare musk]

look at my kiri dawg im never making it out of silver @clever coral

[noble holly]

thank you

love you

[elfin jasper]

would you guys say champ 3 on all roles is a hard task (starting from diamond-plat)

[tawdry sinew]

🫶

[dry blaze]

time for more shield slop

[heady kettle]

watch 500 tutortial videos and learn nothjng cuz they all suck

[noble holly]

LOL

i did that

[tawdry sinew]

truth nuke

[noble holly]

played as her

[elfin jasper]

if ur bronze-gold its entirely on you

[noble holly]

died like 10 tomes

mane

[tawdry sinew]

@noble holly rank? so i can find the appropriate spilo vid

[noble holly]

whats rank

[tawdry sinew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOQCNO0g4dA&list=PLmwx8gVGG1p_1CBjf71mkEs_-cuatQQP9 or lowk just the whole playlist

[elfin jasper]

this is why we watch spilo :D

[noble holly]

brah ily

[heady kettle]

any anf all spilo vids apply to

[rare musk]

😭

[tawdry sinew]

yep!

[heady kettle]

doesnt matter what rank

[clever coral]

FRICK YOU

[heady kettle]

can learn anything

well matters a lil

[noble holly]

how do i see my rank

[tawdry sinew]

yes but in my experience bronze/silver/gold/plat will typically have the exact same issues

[heady kettle]

true

[tawdry sinew]

if you don't know it, you probably haven't played ranked yet

[swift narwhal]

just stay away from enemies

[noble holly]

wait i am not in a game

[noble holly]

ohh

i don't go in ranked

i just started

[tawdry sinew]

yeah so look at lower rank vods from that playlist (bronze, silver, gold)

[heady kettle]

dude if this DANG TEMPERTURE dont TURN it DOWN i mighy have to INTERVENE

[tawdry sinew]

will probably be most relevant

[swift narwhal]

i also find it funny that mizuki has a kama and desides to use his fist to melee

[noble holly]

okay thank yo7

[swift narwhal]

also wuyang melees first person with staff but third person with fist

[tawdry sinew]

this is heartbreaking

information

i never noticed

[swift narwhal]

yup

[signal grotto]

lmao

[fickle coral]

i always get insane healing on mizuki

[swift narwhal]

i dont remember anyone else having that

[fickle coral]

but it feels like i didnt do anything

[tawdry sinew]

cause he stat farms

[fickle coral]

idk why

[tawdry sinew]

thru the game

[swift narwhal]

thats mizuki healing for ya

[tawdry sinew]

with passive

[fickle coral]

thats crazy

[swift narwhal]

his passive is just healing alot of unimportant dmg

[tawdry sinew]

its like having lucio heal around him 24/7

yeah

[crystal socket]

just turn off the sun for a few minutes

[heady kettle]

i meant to say turn it up

[swift narwhal]

which is great in a way cuz it helps well, get less important dmg healed before it stacks up

[heady kettle]

but wtv

ts COLD

[swift narwhal]

i do find it somewhat sad it at max is just lucios heal aura

[crystal socket]

oh well, magnifying glass the sun or something idk

[heady kettle]

im bouta warm up the world

[tawdry sinew]

talk to chatgpt and feel the air around you get warmer instantly

life hack

[heady kettle]

careful western society

[crystal socket]

dw lots of people do that already 😭

[heady kettle]

im making things warm today

[crystal socket]

it's summer in the western world 😭

[swift narwhal]

can you stop flirting with everyone in the west?

[fickle coral]

did u know if the sun vanished we wouldnt know for 8 minutes

[crystal socket]

amazing

[swift narwhal]

uhhhhh i mean

[heady kettle]

why am i cold then

[fickle coral]

funfact

[heady kettle]

checkmate liberal

[crystal socket]

poor circulation idk

[swift narwhal]

its not

its spring plus western is also south america which parts of are in autumn

[slow hull]

shes using the microwave

[dreamy solar]

it’s funny because you’d think we’d feel the effects of the gravity first

[crystal socket]

it's summer where i'm at, we skipped past spring lmaooooooooooooooo

[dreamy solar]

but gravity actually travels at the speed of light

[regal elbow]

10-9 cass W

[swift narwhal]

we did too, for a week..

[dreamy solar]

so if the sun were to disappear we’d orbit nothing for 8 mins

[fickle coral]

light is the speed limit of the universe

[crystal socket]

our spring is just winter prolonged until May and then it turns into summer

[swift narwhal]

its hard to "show" the effect of gravity changing

[fickle coral]

yea

[heady kettle]

maroon:

[crystal socket]

dw all the dizzy baddies will know

[regal elbow]

enemy team banned no one

strange things going on

[crystal socket]

are they bots?

[heady kettle]

ive seen stranger

[fickle coral]

they protesting bans

[heady kettle]

things...

[regal elbow]

i asked

[heady kettle]

season 2

[regal elbow]

they said diddyphiles

[crystal socket]

if the other team doesn't ban anyone, does that default to all the bans being from your team?

[regal elbow]

u get 2 bans

[crystal socket]

wild

[fickle coral]

no

[marsh estuary]

has there been any info on how to get the banner with mercy and fika?

[fickle coral]

ur bans wont fill their slots

[crystal socket]

the dev art one??

[marsh estuary]

yes

[crystal socket]

sadge

[heady kettle]

he bombed a fika!!!

[crystal socket]

i didn't see one with mercy and fika in the lootboxes

[fickle coral]

wtf is a fika

[crystal socket]

it might be a twitch drop?

[marsh estuary]

was released at beginging of season?

[light violet]

Jetpack cat

[marsh estuary]

hasnt been any info on it at all

[fickle coral]

oh

why do ppl call it fika

i missed some lore

[heady kettle]

the name

of the cat

[light violet]

Fika is the cat’s name

[fickle coral]

oh

so i did miss some lorep

[swift narwhal]

This is the name they already said pn reveal man..

[light violet]

I think brig refers to them as Fika in the s1 lore drop where she discusses the concept for a cat in a jetpack

[fickle coral]

i dont pay attention to any of that shit

[swift narwhal]

Shes literally, multiple times, called fika...

[fickle coral]

where

[dry blaze]

I got carried

[swift narwhal]

In game

[heady kettle]

finnar onky exists top lay comp and argue in ows

[fickle coral]

well i dont play the game

[swift narwhal]

Oh

[fickle coral]

checkmate liberal

[fickle coral]

fax

[heady kettle]

he got you bro

[dry blaze]

hooray

[light violet]

Reminder we may get to see S3’s hero tomorrow

[swift narwhal]

yup

or the map

[long yoke]

itll

probably be both

[light violet]

I think the map is more likely but I hope we get at least a teaser of the hero

[fickle coral]

hmm why season 3

[light violet]

There’s still 4 weeks til the end of s2 so they might be saving a full gameplay trailer for the hero a bit longer

[long yoke]

cus thats the next one?

[fickle coral]

why number so low

[long yoke]

cus they rebooted the game 3 times

[light violet]

Every year the seasons now reset back to 1

[fickle coral]

thought we been thru 10 season or shm

oh shit

[light violet]

Every February we go back to s1 and end on s6 in December

[fickle coral]

well thats braindead

[light violet]

This season is technically season 22

[fickle coral]

imo

[swift narwhal]

Every year they reset the seasons now

[fickle coral]

yea i dont agree with that

[swift narwhal]

Ao its now s2 of talon arc

[fickle coral]

i needa season 100

[swift narwhal]

Never happeninh

[fickle coral]

ok but

[swift narwhal]

But 6 seasons per year already meant thatd take a while

[fickle coral]

how do u tell diff between season 3 2026 and 2025

do u just have to add 2025

to the end

[light violet]

Yes

That’s what blizzard do

😭

[fickle coral]

thats braindead bruh

[light violet]

It’s meant to be part of them emphasising lore and how every year is now a new arc

[swift narwhal]

Uh

[hot quiver]

its cleaner than saying s27

[fickle coral]

kappa

kappachungusomegalul

[light violet]

The reign of talon tagline everywhere in s1/s2 promo will be there for this entire year since that’s the current storyline

Next year will have a new subtitle for whatever faction is the focus then

[hot quiver]

ow1 seasons were up to the 30s iirc

lol

[fickle coral]

based ow1

[swift narwhal]

And then its next year probs the hivemind arc