overwatch-serious

[west niche]

this is who fluorine wants for coach btw

[brave island]

Wish I could've played 6 damage per bullet Tracer, that had to have been a nightmare

[cobalt thicket]

doesn't it do 12 now?

[toxic hamlet]

he does

[toxic hamlet]

no

5.75 per pellet

if tracer did 12 per pellet

she would be thanos

[cobalt thicket]

I meant in total

[toxic hamlet]

on like crack cocaine

[cobalt thicket]

mb

[tiny crane]

She'd do more damage than bastion

[cobalt thicket]

thought it was 6 per pellet but she shoots two at once

[toxic hamlet]

nah 5.75

[cobalt thicket]

close enough

[late pilot]

It was but I meant mechanically

[tiny crane]

Whats tracer crit multiplier

[brave island]

x2

[cobalt thicket]

x2

[high quail]

Bro I was genuine

[tiny crane]

Brig should be able to crit

[cobalt thicket]

I'd be with that

[tiny crane]

But only with whip

[cobalt thicket]

if rein and vendetta could too

[tiny crane]

Ven can

[cobalt thicket]

ik but I meant on every swing

[toxic hamlet]

id whip heim critically

[tiny crane]

Nah that'd be too strong

Rein and ven can crit with their firestrikes

Brig should be able to crit with whip

[cobalt thicket]

can they?

[tiny crane]

Pretty sure

[west niche]

perverts shouldnt be coaches

[heady kettle]

I dont think thats true

[tiny crane]

If not they should

[brave island]

Imagine if Wuyang could crit

[cobalt thicket]

no only his ult can

fire strike can't crit

[tiny crane]

Thats dumb

[heady kettle]

Youre dumb

[tiny crane]

Yes I am

[west niche]

no cuz rein alr has good burst dmg

so does ven

[tiny crane]

Fair

But brig crit with whip

[toxic hamlet]

ur mom + 21 + 67 + 69 + 420 + ratio

[tiny crane]

Need

[cobalt thicket]

give them more burst

[west niche]

stella i never seen you be kind to anyone

so full of hatw

[tiny crane]

Juno should have her crit revoked

[outer gate]

stella was nice to me

[toxic hamlet]

id kms if we buffed brig more icl

[heady kettle]

Ill be nice guys

[outer gate]

genuinely

[heady kettle]

Im sorry

[cobalt thicket]

revert brig to ow1

[outer gate]

shouldnt fucking

[west niche]

ok nvm stella u can resume

[outer gate]

have voting in this game

and just a gamemode que

[waxen thunder]

can u give me a compliment then

[waxen galleon]

this is the overwatch server

[heady kettle]

Dont remove juno crits

[outer gate]

rialto

[tiny crane]

She was mean im mean back

[toxic hamlet]

ur fat

[waxen galleon]

every single person in here is filled with hatred and trans fat

[heady kettle]

You are a person!

[toxic hamlet]

ur mom

[waxen thunder]

nuh uh

[outer gate]

kings row and royal

[heady kettle]

Filled with trans

[grand parrot]

who are like the top 3 winston players i can watch and learn from

[cobalt thicket]

[tiny crane]

Id love to be filled with a trans

[waxen thunder]

ty for acknowledging my humanity

[heady kettle]

Np

[grand parrot]

who are good winston players i can learn from

[waxen thunder]

😛

[heady kettle]

Now pay me 16 dollars

[tiny crane]

Flats has been learning him

[waxen thunder]

hell nah

[toxic hamlet]

guxue the big dong and fearless/smurf

[tiny crane]

Idk if he's good but he's ok

[waxen galleon]

probably the wormman

[toxic hamlet]

donghak is the big dong btw

[grand parrot]

flats is dogshit now LOL

[heady kettle]

I feel like a snail rn

[tiny crane]

Because ehe doesn't play lmao

[toxic hamlet]

wet?

[grand parrot]

exactly

[tiny crane]

He doesn't care anymore

[west niche]

depends on mood

[grand parrot]

he does

he has like 100 wins hardstuck tank masters

its over for flats

[tiny crane]

No he hates overwatch in its current state

[grand parrot]

rivals melted his brain

[brave island]

I always watch Guxue for high tier Winston play

[west niche]

antoncoco best rein oat

[grand parrot]

ow2 literaly in its like top 5 priems rn

ow2 is goated rn

[waxen galleon]

priems

[heady kettle]

So rude

[waxen galleon]

i wouldnt say ow is goated rn it's pretty boring

[grand parrot]

including ow1

[waxen galleon]

there's not a lot of excitement going on

[grand parrot]

wait for next update trust bro they gonna put it out

[cobalt thicket]

next update they buff hog and Mauga trust

[tiny crane]

Just because people like overwatch doesn't mean everybody does
People can have opinions
His opinion makes him not play anymore

[heady kettle]

When has there been any excitement

[waxen galleon]

perks

[heady kettle]

Beside overwatch season 1

[tiny crane]

Hes washed

But not because of skill

[west niche]

ur small dong

[toxic hamlet]

yes buff mauga

[grand parrot]

ik that im just saying i disagree lmao

[tiny crane]

Its lack of trying, of lack of care

[cobalt thicket]

gotta get washed to get clean

[toxic hamlet]

better than not being a dong

[brave island]

I think Hanbin might also be a good Winston to watch? I dunno.

[heady kettle]

Dong hacks to impress your neighbours

[tiny crane]

Ive heard the name
Literally watch anyone above your rank and you'll learn stuff

[brave island]

Pretty much

[west niche]

u like dongs dont u

[waxen galleon]

blizzard is investing too much in a gamemode nobody plays outside of just drive grinds

[heady kettle]

Nobody human anyway

[tiny crane]

Stadium?

[waxen galleon]

could just use their stadium money on events

[tiny crane]

Stadium is fucking fun

Idc

[cobalt thicket]

stadium is so fun

[waxen galleon]

or literally anything

[solid phoenix]

Stadium is fun but it’s not competitive lmao

[cobalt thicket]

have you tried the sniper brig builds

[west niche]

do u want my ding dongs

[waxen galleon]

long queues, long matches, chaotic endgame, just not really good

[tiny crane]

You'd be surprised how much games sense and skill goes into being good at stadium compared to regular ranked

[brave island]

I'll admit, Primal Slam Winston by itself is fun to mess around with in Stadium

[tiny crane]

I love the chaos lowk

Its an acquired taste

[solid phoenix]

Nah cause how are you supposed to know what each and every weapon the enemy team picked 😭

[heady kettle]

Support in stadium sucks

[ornate epoch]

i be telling the huzz “get you something nice” then pull out the dollar menu

[waxen galleon]

also there's a whole load of counterpicking and the heroes that are bad are really really really bad

[gaunt quail]

I just got bullied by a reinhardt

[heady kettle]

Nobody counterpicks in stadium bro

[waxen galleon]

ik that wasnt the right word

[heady kettle]

They follow some build they found on stsdium builds and ball

[waxen galleon]

i mean that for example

you try to make a soldier build and a mf is on dva wtf do u do

[heady kettle]

Flank perma

[waxen galleon]

you cry prolly

[oak quest]

Anran is such an annoying pest

[solid phoenix]

Also ngl I feel like stadium is not for everyone because it also forces you to be more proactive. They be like “the outcome of this game depends on ME?”

💔

Because they actually have to think now

[brave island]

You adjust the same way you would in a MOBA

[cobalt thicket]

I think that's honestly a really cool mechanic

getting to build around enemy characters

[tiny crane]

You literally cannot counterpick
You dont know what the other team is picking

And you cant swap

[waxen galleon]

.

[brave island]

Because Stadium is a 'MOBA' without the PvE farming elements

[tiny crane]

You can counter build

[toxic hamlet]

junbin would be better

[tiny crane]

But thats the fun of it

[outer gate]

why is blizzard like

stupid as shit

right

[toxic hamlet]

hanbin is typically a brawl tank enjoyer

[tiny crane]

Working around your enemy

[outer gate]

cheaters get caught late

the game gets cancelled

so good luck to all that time u wasted

this fucker was smooth hacking and the system took forever to ban him

[heady kettle]

Would only matter to me if we were winning

[toxic hamlet]

my bad i like aimbotting

[outer gate]

we were

my dps were goated

they outcheated the cheater

[waxen galleon]

thats cool and all but it's still a lotta resources wasted on a niche gamemode that keeps getting content added on for people that wait for long queues to play and that the userbase has no interest until end of season

[outer gate]

also whoever said u cant que against trios or more unless u got them on ur team

thats not true

this was a 5stack with a cheater

[outer gate]

ah thats fine just dont do it again

[waxen galleon]

it's not a players fault it's just blizz not really making something worth engaging and not putting enough care in the original gamemodes

[heady kettle]

They deprio it

Can still happen

[solid phoenix]

Why don’t people play arcade mode lmao

[heady kettle]

Fun star fact

Im lying

[toxic hamlet]

who said that

cuz you def can

[brave island]

They do

[toxic hamlet]

lmfao

[brave island]

Just No Limits mostly

[solid phoenix]

Atleast not in Oceania

I ain’t getting any games

[toxic hamlet]

no limit to this dih in yo mouf

[heady kettle]

Theres your problem

[brave island]

Keep it hidden

[waxen galleon]

there was an active arcade playerbase a while back in ow1, it just got more and more unpopular the smaller the ow community got

[solid phoenix]

Wow

Everyone plays custom games now

Which makes sense

[waxen galleon]

back in goats/double shield era i used to play death match

[brave island]

Custom games are just better than Arcade unless there's a special event such as Classic OW or the PvE arcade games

[waxen galleon]

and nothing else rlly

[heady kettle]

Every plays the same 5 custom games

[brave island]

I did find people running 2cp in Arcade

And on occasion, Clash

[solid phoenix]

Y’all remember when you had to play capture the flag to get those miniscule overwatch coin rewards?

[waxen galleon]

im ngl i dont think i have EVER played capture the flag

[brave island]

No but that doesn't sound too bad

[heady kettle]

Sombra was busted

[solid phoenix]

Capture the flag is funny

I think capture the flag should be a quick play thing

[waxen galleon]

hell no

[brave island]

She could just capture the flag and translocate I'm guesing

[heady kettle]

Something like that

[west niche]

eukero 1 day no pervert challenge

impossible

[regal elbow]

if i queue qp and get capture the flag im leaving

[outer gate]

i dont remember

[rare musk]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-birthday-gif-4446960541527894948

[outer gate]

i bought maugas crimson gun skin thinking it would look good

i shouldve went with gold like i thought

this shit is so fucking ugly idk why i bought it on mauga

[solid phoenix]

Does anyone thing overwatch made the correct choice in removing clash from competitive

[crystal socket]

Is that why our game got cancelled????

[toxic hamlet]

says you

[outer gate]

yeah

wait

what

no someone left too early

[regal elbow]

my stats prof

[outer gate]

my dps is going 007 again

[regal elbow]

he asked the class

[west niche]

ur perverted and ew

[crystal socket]

Ooooh yeah the person who left

[regal elbow]

u found out ur partner has an ai gf/bf do u consider that cheating

[crystal socket]

I needed a nap

[crystal socket]

I find that pathetic and dump them

[toxic hamlet]

u literally call drew ur spicy little bdsm tsundere

[west niche]

???

[regal elbow]

some people said it was cheating but like

its chatgpt

thats not cheating thats just sad

[crystal socket]

ChatGPT genuinely makes people more reliant upon it and stupid the more they use it so I consider them too dumb to date me

Also pathetic bc that means they can’t actually pull anyone to cheat with so they use AI

[heady kettle]

Depends on how serious the other person is towards ai

[toxic hamlet]

do ur feet get buttered up

[regal elbow]

by definition how do u cheat with something that isnt alive

[crystal socket]

Are you incessantly horny because you can’t pull IRL?

[regal elbow]

thats like saying i gossiped with my dog my dog doesnt know english

[toxic hamlet]

yes

[heady kettle]

Its theoritical cheating

[crystal socket]

Sad

[heady kettle]

Cause your love is still placed elsewhere

[feral mango]

What the freak bro

[heady kettle]

Me thinks

[toxic hamlet]

mad glad bad rad

mm

bars

[outer gate]

my bad yo

[cobalt thicket]

eukero the second coming of Eminem fr

[outer gate]

he ended 67

[crystal socket]

Do you really deserve more effort than one word?

[outer gate]

not 007

[toxic hamlet]

hes scared of me fr

[cobalt thicket]

fr

fr fr fr

[toxic hamlet]

mgk that guy too

hes also scared

[cobalt thicket]

on everyone's soul

[outer gate]

to be fair

its very easy to cheat

no matter how much one can pull

[heady kettle]

Spit some rap

[crystal socket]

That’s the point, they’re so heinous of a person that they can’t get anyone else to cheat with so they have to resort to AI

Like nah

[outer gate]

cheating is funny to me

its such a mental disease type of thing

[tiny crane]

Youre right, most people play stadium at the end of the season
But
A lot of people still play stadium

[crystal socket]

Some people are just born pathetic idk

Polyamory exists

If you really need to be with more than one person

[heady kettle]

Polygons

[toxic hamlet]

rap trap clap slap crap lap gap bap tap cap

[regal elbow]

out in the six im a national treasure

[toxic hamlet]

drake shoulda had me on iceman fr

[heady kettle]

Im cold like ice

Man

[regal elbow]

he kinda has a bar like this on the album

he says like what you gonna do when you run into the iceman except freeze

[heady kettle]

So corny

[cobalt thicket]

would've been better than 21

[tiny crane]

Thats me

[regal elbow]

i saw this tweet and i thought about it like 4 separate times when i listened to the album

u know drake wrote the song if theres one random terrible fucking bar

[heady kettle]

Drake should just commit to being a cornball rapper with more silly lyrics

[tiny crane]

Whats the topic

[regal elbow]

rest of the song is fine one bar is complete dogshit

[regal elbow]

he does this every album

[rare musk]

i mean they have romantic attraction for it its pathetic and cheating

[cobalt thicket]

Drake being awful

[regal elbow]

i dont think it can be cheating cuz its not alive its just sad

[tiny crane]

Oh this is common knowledge yes?

[regal elbow]

like if i have an obsession im in love with a celebrity thats not cheating thats delusion

[tiny crane]

I do not follow the hip hop scene but thats what ive heard

[rare musk]

well if my bf was attracted to fictional anime girls id say thats cheating

idk

[regal elbow]

he’s like the most 6/10 rapper ever

[west niche]

freeze yo balls off

[toxic hamlet]

be my anime girl

[heady kettle]

Depends on the level of attraction imo

[regal elbow]

my prof keeps asking these kinda questions like week he asked whats worse emotional of physical cheating

ig he wants to see if there is a relationship between the answers

[crystal socket]

Both are awful so idk why you have the theorize which is worse

[rare musk]

i would harm @regal elbow if my bf was attracted to fictional characters

[tiny crane]

I dont have much place to speak here since I am polyamorous
But I know a lot of monogamous people that are supportive of their partner's attractions as long as they stay pure fantasies, nothing more

Every couple has a different line they've drawn, so I think its really up to the couple to define cheating, and be upfront about it

[regal elbow]

trash vs garbage pick your poison

[toxic hamlet]

real id say physical tho

[regal elbow]

u lose regardless

[toxic hamlet]

cuz it can affect emotional

[oak quest]

Okay maybe hazard does need a little bit of a nerf

[regal elbow]

why me harm ur bf

[rare musk]

and theyre birds

[crystal socket]

You’d have to get a relationship first, my guy

[rare musk]

the ppl that be like “oh i check out girls with my man 😜” are birds

[tiny crane]

Birds are great

[regal elbow]

i said emotional was worse

[rare musk]

yes of course i will

[crystal socket]

That gives “my husband and I saw you across the bar” type vibes

[west niche]

you like giving physicals

[rare musk]

no theyre not even poly they just idk

[tiny crane]

That fantasy is so silly

[late pilot]

I’m so hungry

[cobalt thicket]

if someone says that to you it's time to turn into prime usain bolt NGL

[rare musk]

they act like theyre totally fine with men checking out other women so they cope with it by saying they do it too

[crystal socket]

It’s always someone like 20 years older 😭

[rare musk]

or idk any gender

[heady kettle]

DOMESTIC VIOLENCE!!! 🔥 🔥 👅

[crystal socket]

No I like to humiliate them

[tiny crane]

And the husband is never the attractive one

[toxic hamlet]

no

[cobalt thicket]

that sounds fun

[crystal socket]

They’re usually both hideous ngl

[tiny crane]

Right

[crystal socket]

Guess you don’t have to worry about cheating then

[west niche]

eukero has too many lovers

[heady kettle]

Wrong

[cobalt thicket]

eukero pulls all the c.ai chatbots

[heady kettle]

He has no lovers

Only haters

[hollow parcel]

Nerf Sierra

NERF MEI

NERF ASHE

[west niche]

ur the only guy that hates everyone

[crystal socket]

Why settle for a couple that obviously uses randoms to patch up their godawful chemistry and relationship issues when I could hook up with someone that’s actually hot?

[regal elbow]

if someone has relationship pronlems with their ai do they make a new chat or go to a different ai

[heady kettle]

I tolerate everybody

[tiny crane]

Mei is fine what

[crystal socket]

Press x for doubt

[heady kettle]

Die

They die

[tiny crane]

????

[cobalt thicket]

I want to play devil's advocate but I have no rebuttal and this is incredibly sound logic

[hollow parcel]

Im not having a good day im sorry 😭

[crystal socket]

Lmaoooo leave em speechless 🤠👉👉

[brave zinc]

Hallo

[heady kettle]

Hook up with the 8 legged shadow man that appears in your bedroom at night

[tiny crane]

Hey, take a break from the game, its okay to let off some steam elsewhere

[brave zinc]

Juno perks are good

[toxic hamlet]

true

[weary badge]

2 of them

[toxic hamlet]

i too rizzy on them ais

[heady kettle]

2 are

[outer gate]

they mostly do it cuz of their ego

[sacred compass]

do ye

[heady kettle]

The others are mid city

[outer gate]

honestly

[brave zinc]

N that's good enough

[crystal socket]

Also if you ever wanna derank duo some heals with me @cobalt thicket

[heady kettle]

No it aint

[cobalt thicket]

I'm down to play whenever

[outer gate]

im just gonna sum it up to being win traded

ive lost to wintraders

not cuz of my teammates skill

[crystal socket]

They do it because the thrill of getting caught excites them and that’s so sad

[brave zinc]

Juno is lucio for chuds anyway hhhhh

[heady kettle]

Still right

[crystal socket]

Time for some subpar kiriko

[heady kettle]

#wwins

[cobalt thicket]

my dps zen will carry (it wont)

[brave zinc]

She's fine

Just shouldn't be a meta character

[crystal socket]

Amazing

[heady kettle]

Never said she wasnt

[brave zinc]

Cuz she's too easy

[heady kettle]

I js want a choice

Which is what every character should have

[grave wharf]

Is there a reason every masters player I've come across is a whining bitch?

[cobalt thicket]

do you fr wanna play? cause I can boot up

[heady kettle]

Masters

[toxic hamlet]

cuz they are masters

[heady kettle]

Theres your answer

[brave zinc]

Masters Is the worst rank

Just go dia or gm

Never masters

[crystal socket]

After I smash this sushi for dinner yeah

[cobalt thicket]

hell yeah

[toxic hamlet]

master’s then plat then champ then bronze then silver then gold then gm

[crystal socket]

In DM’d bc I’m not about to give my bnet to this big of a server in chat

[brave zinc]

Nah champ is the chill rank gm is anoyying asf too after inflation

[toxic hamlet]

gm best rank highkey cuz you can q for games and not play giga shitters

[cobalt thicket]

same

[brave zinc]

Well pc n console diff

Pc champ is so chill

[cobalt thicket]

just shoot me a dm whenever, I need to get some water

[toxic hamlet]

qs tho

[brave zinc]

Console.champ is boring

[brave zinc]

Qs are fast on pc

In champ

[toxic hamlet]

depends on time of day prob tbf

[grave wharf]

Yeah I'm in diamond right now. It feels like a comfy little bubble. But sometimes you get matched with them and they spend the entire match typing or bitching on the mic

[brave zinc]

I can q any time basically eu

It's fast

[toxic hamlet]

then na champ is broken

[brave zinc]

Ig less variance in the demographic. Eu has Saudis etc

Late n early mornings r saudi queues

Normal day is just everyone

[toxic hamlet]

aside from being worse obvi

[brave zinc]

Pc I'm guessing early n late there's no one to fill

[feral mango]

Chat

[outer gate]

yeah

[feral mango]

If i could go on vacation as someone who hates to travel... what am I doing

[outer gate]

theres just something wrong with this

[grave wharf]

Masters player detected

[outer gate]

is this like bait or

[toxic hamlet]

masters bait you could say

[outer gate]

you know what

i smiled a bit at that joke

[heady kettle]

No way

[oak quest]

Trying out genji why is he actually dog shit

[heady kettle]

gotta be a mechanics demon to get value out of him

[twin pollen]

Hello

Anyone play Winston?

[feral mango]

Everybody play winton

At least once

He winton

She winton

We all winton

[brave island]

Defeat your counters

[feral mango]

Winton biggest op lowkirk anyone with a brain

[junior patio]

How do i find a champ or high gm stack on console, half the game are wintrade atp its aids

[twin pollen]

Nvm someone has asked the question

[feral mango]

Initiator perk absolutely useless too

[twin pollen]

Does anyone know the best perk for Winston?

Played someone that’s “GM” and he used the perks I typically don’t use

Figured I’d try and figure out the good pero combo

[feral mango]

Heal 60 health on winton on a cooldown (that people will just shoot you while youre in the air anyways)

[feral mango]

Which is?

[twin pollen]

The shield health and Primal rage one

That’s what he used

[feral mango]

Ah

[rustic token]

Open queue has the worst matchmaking in gaming history

[heady kettle]

the primal one is kinda eh

tbh

[feral mango]

Tbh the shield health i thought was a dud until I realized you are your own ally ✍️

[twin pollen]

I use the gun speed and the hold L2 and it can attack multiple people

[heady kettle]

and only now you realised this?

[feral mango]

The perk says it "grants your allies" so I assumed it was everyone but yourself that it would heal

[rustic token]

Finally got Diamond open queue? Nope..
Get dropped. 5 worst sets of dps in the past 6 months

I also get put against stacks while solo queue

[heady kettle]

6v6 match making at its finest

[regal elbow]

is there anyone in this chat currently that isnt blocked by this guy

[feral mango]

What if they added an omniman like character to OW

[regal elbow]

idk who he even speaks to atp

[regal elbow]

no magic

[feral mango]

Which guy

[heady kettle]

himself

[regal elbow]

japanese larper

[kind bluff]

would you guys be ok with 10vs10 maps?

[feral mango]

Flight doesnt have to be magic

[heady kettle]

hes kinda like you in a way

[heady kettle]

no

[regal elbow]

i dont block everyone and dont queue 6v6

[kind bluff]

10vs10 competitive

[feral mango]

Omnibruh literally has flight and strength im sure thats bot out of the scope of OW heros

[heady kettle]

i meant the complaining constantly part

[regal elbow]

well what would u call the other powers

[heady kettle]

wouldnt work

and would be very very very terrible

[feral mango]

Super strength

Super hearing

Flight

[regal elbow]

im able to like discuss the game and other things he does literally nothing but mald

about his games

[kind bluff]

How about 8vs8

[regal elbow]

i dont even know his opinions on the game

[heady kettle]

6v6 is barely working

[feral mango]

Thats like all he has... he doesnt even have laser eyes or x ray vision

Just strength

[heady kettle]

anything more than that is 2 much

[regal elbow]

doomfist

[regal elbow]

second mode to have 0 players

[feral mango]

He cant fly

[regal elbow]

he is the only hero capable of hitting the skybox in under 2 seconds

[feral mango]

Dps that no clips across the map. Punches 1 guy to death. And no clips away.

[regal elbow]

so

[crystal socket]

ok so

[regal elbow]

he basically can fly

[crystal socket]

which perks should a good kiriko pick

just for funsies

[feral mango]

I want a free flight melee character

No more flight characters that are ranged

[crystal socket]

bro wants titania prime in overwatch

[regal elbow]

whats the point of freeflight if u have to melee

u might as well not fly

[brave island]

Seeing DPS Doom just delete someone at random and then leave is funny, but I know it pissed a lot of players off

[feral mango]

Omniman

[crystal socket]

like leave the match?

[feral mango]

Aura

[feral mango]

I think he means fight

[dire basin]

bye why my game range rn bronze 1 - gm 5

[outer gate]

eh thats not that bad

not a big skill gap honestly

[feral mango]

Add omniman.

[feral mango]

Bronze and gm are literally the same rank

[crystal socket]

it would be funnier if the doom killed one player and left the match 😭

[heady kettle]

the dmg one

and suzu

[crystal socket]

imagine the ego punch it would be if a bronze player group won against a gm

[feral mango]

Me thinks 🤔

We need a dog in a wheelchair for dps

To counter jpc

[regal elbow]

well the bronze has gm player on his team too

[feral mango]

A freeflight melee dps

A dive tank that I personally find fun

And a support that is more interesting than brig

[summer cairn]

This game gotta die bro

[feral mango]

How we gonna keep adding dps and support characters yet theres like 2 fun characters in each role

[summer cairn]

How do I get 2 reversals in a row

[regal elbow]

cuz half of them are hitscans

[brave island]

You roll the enemy team, uphill battle.

[regal elbow]

i got reversal for d3-d2

and it was -29%

like this is literally the same elo

[summer cairn]

First game my tank had a slime in the place of his brain and the second one both my dps were trolling and I get a reversal

[heady kettle]

i had a champ player and it was uphill battle

[regal elbow]

whats the skill difference between d3 and d2

[hollow parcel]

None

[brave island]

One of them is on a winning streak

[regal elbow]

i had a game with 2 unranked players and 2 gold players and got reversal

[heady kettle]

other team was worse

clearly

[regal elbow]

my mercy she was one of the unranked

im pretty sure this was her first comp game

cuz she didnt play like a gold she played worse than that but ig unranked > whatever gold player they had

[hollow parcel]

Give Doom infinite range on empowered punch

[feral mango]

2 matches

[heady kettle]

why

wouldnt even be good

[summer cairn]

My team kept getting farmed by a junk rat spam and somehow it's a reversal fuck off bruh

[regal elbow]

i mean it would be good

[hollow parcel]

I gotta get to that backline

[regal elbow]

u can punch from ur backline to their backline thats basically undodgeable

[heady kettle]

how far is the backline away fom you

[hollow parcel]

Yes

[regal elbow]

on some maps that can be like 40m

[heady kettle]

get gud

[hollow parcel]

Nah

Give Doom more power

His name is Doomfist

I aint feelin it

[heady kettle]

thats cuz you suck

[hollow parcel]

Oh

[regal elbow]

well doom is also bad so

[heady kettle]

#sorry

shhhhhhh

[brave island]

I've been absolutely dumpstered in games and got reversal, so I can relate

[feral mango]

They should put reins jet engine on doom

[hollow parcel]

And allow Doom to charge his emp punch wihout relying on block

[regal elbow]

mizuki is a troll hero cuz he’s not even a good hero he just exists to counter like 3 dive heroes

[hollow parcel]

Lol

[heady kettle]

id be okay if he wasnt do frontloaded into empowered

[feral mango]

Why's doomfist melee with his tiny arm when the big one is right there

[heady kettle]

even then

[feral mango]

Wbich hand do you think doom puts on the bathroom wall when using the urinal

[heady kettle]

hes not evrn that good at it

[pine matrix]

Looking for a mercy e kitten to carry to master
Hard pocket only

[heady kettle]

freehands it

like a sigma

[regal elbow]

he can shit on doom depending on their comp

ball is ball so

[feral mango]

Hands on his hips?

[regal elbow]

he just lives

[heady kettle]

@toxic hamlet

[heady kettle]

amen

[feral mango]

Also @regal elbow if no magic how do you explain sigma

[regal elbow]

science not magic

[feral mango]

Explain it

[toxic hamlet]

@queen tide

[heady kettle]

gravitational experiments

[brave island]

Sigma tapped into some forbidden knowledge

[hollow parcel]

Allow ball to grapple on to people

[heady kettle]

hog if he was awesome

[regal elbow]

im watching my prof test review

[feral mango]

Yet having a character with super strength and flight (through controlling gravity) isn't reasonable? 🤔🤨

[hollow parcel]

Imagine Ball grappling onto a player anf flying off

[regal elbow]

this guy said “6 months” took a long pause and then said “half the year”

[heady kettle]

vod reviewing is crazy

[hollow parcel]

WOuld be funny

[feral mango]

Ask your prof to vod review

[regal elbow]

like he had to remember how many months were in a year

[heady kettle]

w tech

[feral mango]

Ball can grapple to players and either swinging them or himself is based off if theyre dps/supp or tank

[brave island]

Kinda like how Doomfist can technically punch bounce off other characters?

[regal elbow]

i was on lijiang yesterday

and i died cuz i tried to punch a gap

and as i did a ball grappled in front of me

and i fell

[heady kettle]

#outplayed

[feral mango]

Sometimes

But then

[regal elbow]

he didnt even do it on purpose and i didnt even realize he was there

[heady kettle]

no bro he did

trust

[regal elbow]

and then my 11-16 lucio ajaxed

W plays

[hollow parcel]

[hollow parcel]

Ye

[heady kettle]

he has future reading powers

[heady kettle]

the meta

if yo lucio aint ajaxing they aint no lucio

[regal elbow]

ajaxing while down a tank is peak lucio plays

[feral mango]

Blizzard gotta hire me. Depending on what they want my ideas can be far better or far worse than what they already be thinking.

Blizzard wishes they could have my 🧠

[heady kettle]

how buff mizuki

[feral mango]

They get on their knees BEGGING for my 🧠

[brave island]

An ajax has to be one of the most tilting things to witness

[hollow parcel]

On larry

[regal elbow]

he did it twice

so imagine how i felt

[hollow parcel]

I need to get back on Lucio

And Juno

[heady kettle]

i rayjaxed 3 times in a match before

[feral mango]

The amount of times ive seen a snowball get eaten alive by dva/sigma etc

[regal elbow]

i ajaxed meteor strike once

[heady kettle]

we won that game so i dont care lol

[feral mango]

Doesn't matter either way

[heady kettle]

how

[regal elbow]

if the 4 second countdown ends and ur over a ledge

u just instantly die

[heady kettle]

lol

failed the rollout

[regal elbow]

it was reset trust

tactical reset

[feral mango]

Do you guys think doomfist killed the dinosaurs

[heady kettle]

doomfist is not klombus

[regal elbow]

mauga cage fighted them

[feral mango]

Nah that was spiderman

[heady kettle]

klombus started talking to the dinosaurs and they got so bored they died

[brave island]

Dinos died because Lucio ajax'd before the meteor hit

[feral mango]

https://youtu.be/cWQUkCx6HZA?si=7rtnBIR0hyJYuuhx

[fervent pawn]

!!is this real

[turbid vector]

Concentrate and ask again.

[heady kettle]

#meta

[fervent pawn]

fuckin clanker

[regal elbow]

klombus is still alive

[heady kettle]

yes

unfort

[fervent pawn]

[feral mango]

Chart

I wanna go home

13 minutes left in my shift

What am I doing for dinner

I cant even smoke

[dusty trellis]

I finally feel like I'm climbing

I've been hitting the max win so far

[outer gate]

im gonna be honest doom might take more braincells then ball

[dry blaze]

i tried

probably not the best tank to use on new junk city

[heady kettle]

ball has like 50 million hp and doom has like 4

[regal elbow]

he’s an easier hero he’s just worse

these aren’t mutually exclusive

ball is harder but ball is A tier and doom is C tier at best

[kind bluff]

I feel like tanks are pretty much the only ones able to carry a game

Unless you get an insane hitscanner or gm level tracer

[outer gate]

just cuz of that id say he takes more brain

[regal elbow]

not necessarily

[outer gate]

also

balls like easy mode if you got another dive

ball also just has less ways to be punished

[regal elbow]

would u argue rein takes more brain than dva just cuz rein sucks

[outer gate]

sure

[kind bluff]

I've seen Reins mopping the floor

[outer gate]

why not

[feral mango]

B'yesn't

[outer gate]

you gotta think outside the box with rein

dva is meta

shes good

she doesnt take that much skill as well

[regal elbow]

cuz fundamentals have nothing to do with the heroes strength

they are fundamentally easier heroes

it doesnt matter if they suck

[feral mango]

Rein has to think how to get into the fight without getting exploded

After that all thinking is turned off

[kind bluff]

Like Sierra?

or jetpack cat

[regal elbow]

well sierra is a hs

and i dont play jpc

[feral mango]

After having a hard losing streak on tank after getting out of scrims the other night I queued some dps on qp and played Sierra and realized how much calmer my life could be

[regal elbow]

if i gave the worst ow player doom and ball

i almost guarantee he’s getting more value on doom

[feral mango]

What?

Why doom?

[regal elbow]

cuz doom fundamentally is an easier hero he has a one shot combo

and that doesnt change regardless of elo

[feral mango]

When I had no expirence with either and had just hopped on the game

Ball was infinitely easier than doom

Then I played brawl and asked why I was ever playing dive

[outer gate]

no but it can be taken into consideration

[feral mango]

Coming into either character with 0 knowledge youre not going to know that one shot combo tho

[outer gate]

ball isnt all that

[regal elbow]

yes u will its not that complicated

u punch them into a wall

u shoot

they died

[outer gate]

hes just hard to get value with

at the end of the day

[feral mango]

I didnt know he had a one shot combo when I started playing him 🤷‍♂️

[outer gate]

thats all ball is

[regal elbow]

u can find that out the first time u land emp punch

[feral mango]

What if the first time I play doom I jump and get shot out of the air like a duck vs a 4 gauge

[regal elbow]

u dont need to realize what it is what u can easily realize is this player is really easy to kill when i land emp punch

[outer gate]

and ball has other areas where hes easier like surviving

[feral mango]

Vs the first time I play ball i get a 4k

[regal elbow]

u got a 4k on ball

[feral mango]

Tbf

2 of those kills were my ult that I dropped on obj in overtime mid team fight

[regal elbow]

unless everyone walked into mines idk how that happens

[outer gate]

his punch does like 200 dmg

and then like a slam or m1 is enough to finish

[feral mango]

But the idea was to take both heros and give them to a player who knows nothing and compare no skill on character vs no skill on character correct?

[regal elbow]

like i dont think ur getting the fact that a hero with a high dmg cooldown will always be easier than the hero without one

[feral mango]

Someone whos level 1 loading the game up for the first time doesnt know "ok this punch will do 200 damage and this character has 225 health"

Theyre gonna know

[regal elbow]

hog is easier than dva mauga is easier than ram at fundamental levels

[feral mango]

"Hm doom is a dive melee tank"

[regal elbow]

assuming they can like

read

they will hit that punch eventually

and see it does 200 dmg

[feral mango]

And i dont think youre getting that someone with 0 time on either hero.... knows thsi

[regal elbow]

theres a reason dooms pickrate is so high

[feral mango]

There are no damage numbers

[feral mango]

Cus he's more fun than half the games roster

[regal elbow]

yeah i forgot theres no healthbar in overwatch

it doesnt exist

[feral mango]

OK but again

Someone who is new

Doesn't know what the actual number for that health bar is

[regal elbow]

has apparently never seen a healthbar

in his life

[feral mango]

How are they gonna know the difference between orisa at half health and bastion at half health?

[regal elbow]

the fact that orisa has 50 segments and bastion has 5

[outer gate]

on an actual note

[feral mango]

Im not counting the segments

Mid fight

[polar heath]

bro

[outer gate]

nobody is doing good on doom or ball

[polar heath]

this is so stupid

[floral wing]

?

[regal elbow]

thats a u problem then ur part of the cant read group

[feral mango]

As you said a "shitter"

[outer gate]

if theyre new

[regal elbow]

???

[polar heath]

u can see it being half way

[outer gate]

yeah doom is like easier

sure

[feral mango]

He literally is talking about hypothetically putting a shitter on doom and ball

[inner kernel]

Chat I went game 7 in 6v6 on ashe and hard carried. 😭😭😭

[regal elbow]

i didnt even use the word shitter

[polar heath]

si wgat

[feral mango]

Im not saying a regular guy isn't gonna know this shit

[polar heath]

so what

[inner kernel]

I havent played ashe that locked in in a bit

[feral mango]

You said someone who sucks no?

[polar heath]

anyone can tell this is abt hhalf health gang cmon..

[inner kernel]

Was hitting my dynamite mid air like a god.😭😭😭

[feral mango]

🗿 bro doesnt even know what im talking about rn

[inner kernel]

Then got killed by the enemy ashe lol

[polar heath]

i dont tbf i just saw that 1 thing

and had to comment on it

mb twin

[inner kernel]

I fricking love ashe

[frail flint]

Ashe can turn me to ash

[regal elbow]

i said if we got the worst ow player

[inner kernel]

BOOOOOOB

[feral mango]

Yes it's half health but someone playing the game for the first time won't realize half health is (number)

[regal elbow]

he is getting more value on doom than ball

[pale fulcrum]

Im now Master 1

On Dva

[regal elbow]

it doesnt matter

[frail flint]

Bob can join in too

[inner kernel]

Congratz

[pale fulcrum]

Grand Master soon

[feral mango]

There's just no way

[frail flint]

He can watch

[regal elbow]

the dmg got be 500 or 1000 he punched someone

[inner kernel]

Oh hell nah

[regal elbow]

and the healthbar is almost empty

[feral mango]

Ball is so much easier than doom

[pale fulcrum]

This game is so fucking easy now

[regal elbow]

who gives a fuck about the number clearly the punch does a lot of dmg

[pale fulcrum]

Why do I remember climbing so hard in OW1

Is the game really just this easy?

[feral mango]

A punch doing a lot of damage doesnt mean that shitter is doing anything with it

[frail flint]

Well ball is a harder character to learn and harder in mechanics but doom is harder to play cuz of his shit survivability

[pale fulcrum]

Im fucking BOMBING in MASTER 1

[feral mango]

Kinda my point

[inner kernel]

This game is easy when I focus. When im chilling the game is meh

[pale fulcrum]

And getting 2-3ks with it

[queen tide]

Why was i the first person u thought of

[pale fulcrum]

I should NEVER be bombing

💀

[inner kernel]

Bad positioning

[regal elbow]

what is he more likely to get value

[pale fulcrum]

Me?

[frail flint]

Like ball and other dive tanks are really forgiving in mistakes but doom you're fucked

[inner kernel]

No shot bomb is getting kills in masters

[regal elbow]

the ability that does a lot of dmg

[feral mango]

Like a shitter isn't gonna get a 1 hit combo off just cus doom has the capability to hit a 1 hit combo

[regal elbow]

or the ability that doesnt

[inner kernel]

Other players

[pale fulcrum]

This is master 1

[inner kernel]

Im so confused

How

[pale fulcrum]

Shouldnt everyone be at least able to position properly

[regal elbow]

this is like saying a new player gets more value on dva than hog cuz dva is broken

[feral mango]

Imo if the guy is buns at the game. Probably the ball that has an "oh shit I need more health" button, a grapple, and 2 big ahh guns over a combo that the shitter is gonna just int with

[regal elbow]

like no they wont bro they’re gonna get billion times more value hooking people than doing anything on dva

[feral mango]

They have to hit that tho

[pale fulcrum]

Roadhog is trash

[feral mango]

I dont think your "worst ow playee" is hitting doom one hit combos

[regal elbow]

he can literally punch the tank

and he would win probably

[pale fulcrum]

Nobody should play this hero

[inner kernel]

I decided to take the hard path and learn queen

[frail flint]

Sad to say but my boy got massacred

[feral mango]

Cus then he wouldn't be the worst ow player lol

[regal elbow]

cuz realistically he’s play against a brawl tank and doom dog walks half of them

[inner kernel]

Gotta thank my friend. I first picked up queen and was like this viking sucks.

Dont ask i didnt understand ow

[regal elbow]

especially rein

[inner kernel]

Then I kept playing her

And realized shes fucking disgusting

[kind bluff]

Can a GM 6v6 queue into bronze 5v5?

[pale fulcrum]

Im still Plat with Supp

[feral mango]

You are coming at this with the mindset that your worst ow player knows what he's doing tho

[pale fulcrum]

But I plan to climb

[frail flint]

Yah

[regal elbow]

my whole point is

[pale fulcrum]

Support is the most fun role

[regal elbow]

he doesnt

[inner kernel]

Yeah. Not fair tho

Had one of those today

[regal elbow]

so the easier ability that does higher dmg

is gonna get more value

than ball having 1000hp

[kind bluff]

Just happened in my lobby. Insane, the ball was just wiping out the ennemy and our mercy was passively keping everyone alive

[regal elbow]

cuz ball has zero fucking dmg compared to doom

[fickle coral]

its dps

[regal elbow]

the same reason hog would get significantly more value than ball and doom

[inner kernel]

Tank got mad at our dps (6v6) for not killing the clear gm cassidy. Said they needed to target and essentially 1v1 him

[frail flint]

60 on Boop 120 on tank with passive almost 80 or smth damage on slam

[inner kernel]

I was like uhh they ain't out mechanicing this cassidy

[pale fulcrum]

Clearly you've never 1v4d with lucio

[regal elbow]

doom does this with one punch

which is easier

[feral mango]

OK I will gather a bunch of bronze players for what im telling them is a social expirement and I will force one tank to play ball and the other to play doom the rest of their team can do whatever the hell they want

[fickle coral]

yawn

[pale fulcrum]

Lucio is so fun

[inner kernel]

Found froggers alt

[heady kettle]

lucio is for reddit chuds

[frail flint]

But he isn't that forgiving like ball one mistake on doom and you don't have 1k HP to save yourself

[regal elbow]

do u think bronze players punish dooms mistakes

[inner kernel]

Can I say queen is an honest tank?

[regal elbow]

no

[heady kettle]

yes

[regal elbow]

cuz that term is stupid

[frail flint]

Bronze players are one of the ppl that counter swap the most

[feral mango]

But is the "worst ow player" really going to get a follow up on that punch or is he gonna burn all his cds getting into the fight, get one punch off then fall over dead cus he cant do anything else

[regal elbow]

and means nothing

[regal elbow]

well i dont agree with this to begin with but besides that i still doubt they punish anyone

people dont turn around

let alone punish people

[inner kernel]

The worst ow player is slamming into a wall

Or punching into a wall

[feral mango]

Literally my point

[inner kernel]

And then getting rolled

They wont even make it to the backline

[regal elbow]

he can perma punch the tank which is more value than rolling around on ball doing literally nothing

[feral mango]

Like yes doom can be better than ball. But if our basis is "worst ow player" he aint getting anything out of doom

[regal elbow]

cuz thats what the worst ow player will do on ball

they will just roll doing nothing

[frail flint]

If you play doom in bronze your own team will deny you and the enemy team will all swap off to counter just cuz you're on doom even if you're doing ass or good

[feral mango]

Yea but he's not gonna do that lol he's the "worst ow player"

Hes gonna int

[inner kernel]

The worst ow player shluldnt be on a dive tank in the first place

🤣🤣🤣

[heady kettle]

samething happens to ball

[regal elbow]

inting is more value than doing literally nothing

at least by inting he’s doing something

[kind bluff]

Who has more carry potential in soloQ? s76 or Emre?

[inner kernel]

Nah I had a team tell me I need to run down mid on queen

[heady kettle]

emre

[regal elbow]

emre

[inner kernel]

I just swapped to domina

[feral mango]

You right he's feeding the enemy team dps ults

[frail flint]

But ball atleast has 1k HP he can survive most of the time unlike doom

[kind bluff]

How

[inner kernel]

I told them learn to play with a queen

[regal elbow]

the ball is doing that more cuz as u said

he has 1000hp

[rare kettle]

they should buff back vendetta to her prime

[heady kettle]

1k hp means nothing to the worsr player ever

[regal elbow]

and doom has 500

[feral mango]

My point isn't even the hp but I genuinely think balls kit is easier for someone shit at the game to do anything with

[inner kernel]

Legit get annoyed when my team cant fathom the concept of their tank going on their own adventure and getting kills

[feral mango]

I didnt even mention his 1000hp btw

[regal elbow]

there is nothing worse than doing nothing bro

u can make the worst fucking play ever it would be better than doing nothing

[inner kernel]

"Your supposed to attack the enemy tank"

[frail flint]

Well ball and doom both have a basic skill floor but just high skill ceiling cuz their kit is pretty simple

[inner kernel]

I AM PLAYING QUEEN

[pale fulcrum]

Ball is

[frail flint]

It's just the mechanics that are hard

[feral mango]

I know this 😭 my point is that THE WORST OW PLAYER IS GOING TO DO NOTHING ON DOOM

[pale fulcrum]

Flank, get your ass beat, run away

t500 ball is

[kind bluff]

How about dying 24/7?

[regal elbow]

is this not referring to balls ability that gives him 1000hp

[inner kernel]

Thats like ball walking down mid not even rolling and shooting the tank all day

[pale fulcrum]

Flank, get your ass beat, dive harder, die

Every ball player is a toddler

[regal elbow]

if ur bronze thats better than being afk

[feral mango]

Its referring to him having an oh shit button. If that button was tracers recall I would still refer to it the same way.

[heady kettle]

balls gun kinda sucks

tbh

[regal elbow]

the oh shit button that gives him 1000hp

[inner kernel]

I gotta get out of bronze bc i need a challenge

[frail flint]

Sometimes when I want to play ball I just go a game without shooting my gun once just getting kills through boop and slam

[feral mango]

What's dooms oh shit button

[inner kernel]

Need a 6 stack for 6v6. 🤣🤣🤣

[frail flint]

Q or e

[regal elbow]

all of them

realistically punch

[feral mango]

And then after he uses them?

[inner kernel]

Dead

If ur in the backline as doom with no cooldowns your doing something wrong

[floral wing]

fuckkkk my stats r so good

[regal elbow]

by the time slam and block ends he probably has punch back

[feral mango]

Ball is leaving with his grapple unless someone stops him

[regal elbow]

so unless he’s cced realistically he can live any situation

[feral mango]

Then he punches the person in front of him and dies

[inner kernel]

Uhhh

Yep!

[feral mango]

Im not saying this person is making the right plays

[inner kernel]

Cooking

[feral mango]

But again

[regal elbow]

and then the ball slams the person in front of him and dies

[feral mango]

YOUR BASIS was WORST player

[frail flint]

He doesn't cuz he used adaptive shields tho

[feral mango]

The worst player isn't going to use dooms kit the right way

[regal elbow]

why are we assuming

the ball will leave

and the doom wont

[inner kernel]

Here's the thing

The worst players isnt even gonna know how to play doom

[feral mango]

Cus ive seen it with ny own eyes any time I dont queue tank

[regal elbow]

the logic is flawed cuz one player is clearly being portrayed as better

[inner kernel]

They are gonna run down mid like Reinhardt and get no value

[frail flint]

Cuz slam takes around 3 seconds and with adaptive shield you'll have enough time for 5 seconds on the grapple to escape

[regal elbow]

better than nothing

[inner kernel]

I had a dva sitting in front of her team shooting at me the whole game. im on domina

[feral mango]

Bad dooms look at the kit and say its all offensive abilities. They dont look at it as movement they see it as going balls to the wall

And then they die

[regal elbow]

who cares if ball lives if he isnt doing anything