overwatch-serious

[hot quiver]

in s9 maybe

[mossy star]

That’s even worse than the last one

[heady kettle]

like crazy dave

[clever coral]

are there others

[heady kettle]

or a Bulgarian bomb thrower

[hot quiver]

the streets are saying green goblin might be next season

[clever coral]

i know peni is aged up in rivals

[long yoke]

Peni is

Im pretty sure some others are

[light violet]

Ghost rider burning in the depths of hell

[long yoke]

Its

Not

[heady kettle]

peni's

[long yoke]

It got leaked already

By the same guy that leaked this season

And the last

[clever coral]

laughing and slapping my belly rn

[hot quiver]

penis

LOL

LMFAOO

[long yoke]

Green goblin is probably the wierd season villain thing they keep doing

Where a character gets put in jail forever

[hot quiver]

netease is scared to add villains as heroes

[light violet]

Just checking this one was confirmed fake wasn’t it

[hot quiver]

idk maybe

some say it is others say it isnt

[heady kettle]

ts rivals is not that serious

[long yoke]

Yeah it was

Next season is a B and C lister

I forgot the names

[heady kettle]

what if they add deku next season

[long yoke]

That guy was just copying the real leak

And throwing random names on

That people want for attention

[hot quiver]

captain marvel and idk

[heady kettle]

poopstain marvel

type 1

leave a like below

[brisk violet]

why isnt thanos in marvel rivals

[heady kettle]

erm

[brisk violet]

isnt that like the main villan or smth

[heady kettle]

im right here

[unreal tide]

vulture 💯

[hot quiver]

netease is deliberately making us wait until midseason to tease the next heroes rather than teasing them at the start like always

[long yoke]

It was nico minoru for the c lister

And marvel for the b lister

P sure

[eager drift]

i love mauga

he's so cool

[light violet]

Netease are boring bastards

[long yoke]

Cus people be getting them too fast now lmao

[eager drift]

i can't wait for mauga mythic

[long yoke]

They like

Reqlly don't do villains

For some reason?

For a game called marvel rivals there is like 3 rivals

[hot quiver]

thanos would be too op

for rivals

[long yoke]

No?

It'd be comic one

He's not all that

Loses to squirrel girl unfortunately

[short berry]

well no shit squirrel girl beats anyone cause she's squirrel girl, right?

like literally?

[dry blaze]

im not very good

[clever coral]

they putting the junkrat player in rivals??

[slate bay]

how long was the game

[dry blaze]

9 minutes and 30 seconds

[unreal tide]

doesnt that shit have phoenix force jean grey??

[long yoke]

Yeah that too ig

Squirrel girl fodder tho

[slate bay]

kinda looks identical to when i play mercy so idk lol

[hot quiver]

yea but they fucked her up

they literally made her pokeslop and thats all

[unreal tide]

also like, thanos without the gauntlet is just a basic bitch brawler

[grim lion]

And wanda and phoenix are not?

[grim lion]

Yeah but the point is rivals is not accurate to power scaling.

Lol.

Never has been and never will be.

[long yoke]

No more mutants ( ´-｀)

[clever coral]

https://tenor.com/view/chud-fat-fuckin-chud-im-such-a-fat-fuckin-chuuuuud-im-such-a-fat-fuckin-chud-gif-4100828415608082204

[heady kettle]

when did they add heroic endorsments

wtf

[clever coral]

mvp screen

[dry blaze]

i feel like im playing her wrong still but i might be getting better at her movement?

[idle kernel]

Black Cat is like an anti-villain, but that's the closest it gets to a post lunch villain

[light violet]

When they added the mvp screen this season

But they only mentioned it once in small font in the blog post

So nobody noticed it

😭

[idle kernel]

Really hope they finally add some Spider-Man villains

Green Goblin would be peak

[light violet]

Doctor octopus 👀

[idle kernel]

Oh yeah

[grim lion]

Is that the mvp voting?

[idle kernel]

Or maybe Mysterio would be cool?

Oh wait, he would be just Loki

[light violet]

The heroic endorsement thing is separate but they added it alongside the mvp voting screen

[grim lion]

Where is it?

[long yoke]

Whats heroic endorsement?

[light violet]

Hidden in the social menu when you click on the person

[light violet]

The OW1 endorsements

[long yoke]

Oh wtf

[idle kernel]

Oh, the nostalgia

[light violet]

I used to spam the team player one like my life depended on it

[idle kernel]

My favorite was communication

Because I liked orange

LMAO

[unreal tide]

i loved not saying shit all game and getting shot caller

[idle kernel]

FR

[dry blaze]

idk what I did here but I made my tanks mad twice at me

[light violet]

Why he lowkey actually hitting this pose

[long yoke]

Probably mid grips

Or ass tanks

Who whine

Or both

[unreal tide]

or

yk

healbot weaver

[long yoke]

That too

[dry blaze]

they were low health but apparently going for the kills were more important

[dry blaze]

I didnt mean to

[heady kettle]

kind of redundant to say no?

[long yoke]

Nah you can do decent damage on Weaver

Especially once you get his major

(Pls make it base kit bliz)

[heady kettle]

dude lvl 625 lucio

dedicated dj

[glad axle]

It's rare that I end up doing much damage with him because it feels like my team is always taking too much damage for me to swap to thorns

[brisk violet]

yeah i feel like lw's kit pushes you towards healbotting

[noble holly]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HEypHeNWEAAK76S.webp

just got ragebaited so bad

f this game

[dry blaze]

I legit just never saw anyone cause I was behind everyone

[unreal tide]

that cat goes moo

[noble holly]

yes

[eager drift]

Mauga

Too cool

[light violet]

Mauga mythic in 2 months 👀👀👀👀

[heady kettle]

67\

2

[hot quiver]

lowest selling mythic oat im calling it

actually i really wonder whats the stats of mythic sells

[heady kettle]

cant be very high

[light violet]

I think we know moira’s is the most used/best selling

I’d assume worst selling is horse

[crisp basalt]

Moira

[hot quiver]

ofc it is

[heady kettle]

m2 to c5

i have th champ

uphill battle

w goons?

[light violet]

As a person who always uses that mythic I can say it’s peak

https://tenor.com/view/leobylaw-stan-twitter-gif-5773107278200979067

[unreal tide]

somehow I think you're gonna lose

[light violet]

I love mercy’s new one as well

[hot quiver]

hanzo and soj mythic weapons are next apparently

[weary badge]

I feel like they decided to make 2nd mythics because of heroes like mercy selling badly

[hot quiver]

hopefully soj first

[light violet]

Oui

Hanzo s3

Soj s4 in August

[weary badge]

like mercy mythic 1 def has to be low

[hot quiver]

shiii

soj mythic weapon is basically a nobrainer

[light violet]

I’m locking in my guess JQ or dva is the second s4 mythic

[hot quiver]

which is bullshit cuz its tuff

but wtv

least the new one is widely praised now

[light violet]

It’s tuff but doesn’t appeal to most of her playerbase

[heady kettle]

we won

[weary badge]

yeah I think it looks cool

[light violet]

Most mercy mains like the colourful cutesy skins

Her new mythic is closer to that

[weary badge]

but im also not the type of person to play mercy so that doesnt matter

[hot quiver]

where the fuck is the tracer mythic weapon also

[light violet]

Taken out back and shot

[hot quiver]

second no brainer mythic weapon

[light violet]

Winston has no mythic items at all

And he’s one of the most iconic ow1 heroes

https://tenor.com/view/lana-lana-del-rey-glitch-stan-twitter-dontusayso-gif-24595562

[weary badge]

I wonder what theyd do for the inspect on a tracer mythic weapon

[hot quiver]

make it tp like she does

or blink

wtv

[fathom merlin]

Ngl Mercy needs a 3rd mythic before anything else

[scarlet fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-react-ayanokoji-gif-2720455600187711272

[long yoke]

4th you mean

[hot quiver]

they will after this season cuz its awful

[light violet]

I think a second Kiri mythic is coming ngl

And a second Juno

[long yoke]

100%

Idk about juno

[hot quiver]

drastic drop from s1

[fathom merlin]

Definitely a new ana weapon mythic to

[noble holly]

!jumbo

[light violet]

Juno’s a cash cow same as Kiri they’re not gonna let her go without a second

[heady kettle]

shes a cash sheep

dont call her a cow please

[light violet]

I think Dva’s getting a second skin in s4 bc she’s a major lore character in that season

[weary badge]

youre a sheep

[heady kettle]

baaaah

[noble holly]

YAYAYYAYAYAYYAY

[light violet]

So her first mythic will be like a year and 3 months old

😭🙏🏽

Juno’s mythic is already over a year old

[heady kettle]

yall got any good mythic concepts cooking

[hot quiver]

just remake all the bad mythics atp

which is like half of them

[weary badge]

can we get a brig mythic first haha

[long yoke]

To be fair

[weary badge]

preferably one of the good ones

[heady kettle]

what should it be

[long yoke]

Brig skins are clearly selling g

Since we got 2

Which is crazy for brig

[hot quiver]

blizzard mustve used ai for cass mythic

[weary badge]

idk man anything that isnt already done 100 times by her current skins or other mythics

[dry blaze]

im so bad on kiriko

[weary badge]

literally anything else

[light violet]

Speaking of later in the year reminder blizzard said drives and hero bans will also be updated (map voting already happened)

[weary badge]

pull a cass and take off her shirt haha

[long yoke]

Remove map voting and a 5th ban slot that always bans hog pls

[heady kettle]

brig mythic is her dressed as a mechanic except her overralls are down and her abbs are showing

[hot quiver]

surely they mean equip past drives

[heady kettle]

thoughts

[weary badge]

W

[hot quiver]

and not some other shit no one asked for

[long yoke]

Brig mythic but it uses the same base model as ozempic brig

[weary badge]

no

[heady kettle]

no

[weary badge]

stop

[long yoke]

The monkeys paw

[weary badge]

brig mythic but it’s just recolors of heart of strength

[light violet]

👀

[weary badge]

nobody bans my heroes so im fine with it

[hot quiver]

rivals ban system

[heady kettle]

i got weinbert238 on my team

[gusty folio]

U really can't do anything on dps if ur tank is an amoeba

[weary badge]

its why im losing trend queueing with stella on ball

unwinnable

[long yoke]

Same

Dive players dont ban brig

And we 2 trick brig anyway

Even if they dont play dive

[weary badge]

makes sense

I see ball on enemy team when im not supp and ppl swap into everything except brig

[light violet]

WE perma ban hazard

[weary badge]

it’s insane

[long yoke]

Yeah i lowkey think

Peoppe sleep on brig

Way too much ngl

[weary badge]

I want to sleep on brig

I should go to bed soon

too much freak

[long yoke]

Nah no fresk

Just real

[weary badge]

I played bloons today and got a chimps run on an expert map to round 100 and then couldn’t find a way to beat round 100 with my setup and money

it was very sad

[long yoke]

How

Round100 is the

Easiest part?

[weary badge]

I had to buy a bunch of stalling stuff for the 90s so I had no dmg

[long yoke]

Even then the late game stalling stuff

Shpukd shit on the bad?

Like icicle impale?

[twin wing]

I hate waiting to teach

[weary badge]

if I had 6k more I could’ve bought first strike and oneshot bad on low hp but spent too much

[long yoke]

Was it black border

[dry blaze]

ew

[light violet]

I’ve never seen this in my life

[weary badge]

no I haven’t found a way that doesn’t require like 20 restarts on round 95 or 98 or 99

[long yoke]

Its a shitty recolour of his first ever skin

[weary badge]

cuz I was using ace

hard to micro

[long yoke]

Ahh

For ace just spam uh

Tracking darts

With buffs

Insane dps

For its price

Acid coating does wonders

Amd

[weary badge]

I wanted to try to get flying fortress in chimps but with my start I cant save up enough to get it before round 90

and spectre loses to r90 because it’s rlly bad for ddts

[long yoke]

Flying fortress is

[dry blaze]

this is cool

[long yoke]

Highkey dogshit

Specter is just better usually

The price is insane for mid value

[weary badge]

so I went with sky shredder but I don’t have enough dmg with my setup to beat r100 unless I save 6k more

I’ll probably be able to save money next time I run it

but idk how im gonna do black border

[scarlet fiber]

yes get in

[long yoke]

Icicle impale

Solos ddts

Easily

[weary badge]

im on flooded valley

[long yoke]

Ah stinky map

[weary badge]

ya

[long yoke]

Blizzard to place on water ig?

Boats are braindead op too

Hook everything

[scarlet fiber]

Create an option in settings to not be matched with players who have high levels in obnoxious characters like junkrat

[weary badge]

someone told me to spam mermonkey and I tried that yesterday but I swear only bottom path does anything in late game

[long yoke]

Yeah mermonkrycis

Mid asf imo

The resonance thing is alright at t5

[heady kettle]

middle path is good but not for flooded

[weary badge]

idk why I kept trying with sky shredder I had to do like 10 mins of restarts for every hard round in the 90s with more support bought during ace micro every time

shouldve just restarted and tried something else

wouldve been faster

[frank maple]

erm

[weary badge]

ill try tmrw if I can find a good way to save for it

[gusty folio]

I've had a cat on my team almost every single game tonight and they all think they're viol2t

[dreamy solar]

mercy has the highest wr in gm+ on console rn

shits kinda crazy

[dry blaze]

the way this looks better than both sojourn and solders mythics

[strong holly]

So I joined an in progress game just to hear team kill and defeat. I didn't even properly load in yet

[brave void]

ong it doesnt

at least believe what ur saying

[unreal tide]

backfill be like

they gotta make a setting to disable that

[dry blaze]

well it doesn't look like ugly dogshit so its already beating them

[strong holly]

There use to be a way to turn it off.

[dreamy solar]

there’s no way u think soldiers mythic looks good

[brave void]

i do

[long yoke]

Soldiers mythicnis ass

[dreamy solar]

poop from a butt

[long yoke]

The ult voiceline is

Even worse

[brave void]

and even if u dont like it theres no way u have that sombra skin

above it

[long yoke]

Genuinely what does ive got you in overdrive

Even mean

[rich rivet]

sombra skin clears

[unreal tide]

"used to" it feels like half this game is 💔

[weary badge]

I forgot what the team voiceline is for soldier mythic but I remember hearing yesterday and thinking like

this is so much worse than his base ult line

[long yoke]

Its this

"Ive got you in overdrive"

Its genuinely nonsensical

[weary badge]

isnt that for if you’re the soldier

[long yoke]

Maybe?

[dry blaze]

the recolour of it is on par with the sojourn and solder mythics

[weary badge]

cuz it would replace the “ive got you in my sights”

im talking abt the one that replaces the one where hes like

tactical visor activated

[strong holly]

This game has become pretty soulless unfortunately.

[sick torrent]

i mean no but i will agree that the mythic voicelines have gotten worse

[long yoke]

The other kne is

Tactical visor amped 💔

[sick torrent]

the new mythic wouldve fit pharah better tbh

[sick torrent]

but i think a REALLY COOL CHARACTER TO GET A MYTHIC with no bias at all is a silly frog boy

the junkrat mythic is almost perfect but the ult voiceline man .n.

[long yoke]

The junk mythic is

Lowkey ass too

W customisation

[dreamy solar]

this is crazy

[strong holly]

I like the junk myth

[weary badge]

didnt know she was banned that much

[dreamy solar]

50% of all gm games tracer is banned

[long yoke]

Tracer is good? Mind-blowing

Yeah nerf her damage by 0.5

Dead in the water

[sick torrent]

it looks GREAT but

man

[zenith sparrow]

Infuriating, just had to report a mei on our team for sabotage. Not only did they try ban my preferred, they kept blocking spawn with the wall and her healing ice cube thing deliberately, and stayed at spawn to do this to anyone who died, IN COMP 😭

[dreamy solar]

went up to 51% when i refreshed loll

[weary badge]

I just hate the hero portrait and the ult line

[dreamy solar]

these are the console gm+ stats

[brave void]

who is ur preferred

[weary badge]

fucking “unmake them”

[zenith sparrow]

JPC

[long yoke]

20% play rate with a 50% ban rate btw

[weary badge]

why does she say that

[long yoke]

So you can assume she'd have almost a 40% play raye

If she wasnt banned

Which is genuinely insane

[dreamy solar]

trae metas are fun tho

[long yoke]

I do like it though ngl, getting me better at dealing with her

[dreamy solar]

this is another funny one

[sick torrent]

i dont think characters should get mythics if they already have one unless every character already had a mythic

because otherwise it kills so much hype

[long yoke]

Money

[weary badge]

I was gonna check pc gm banrates but apparently they don’t show on mobile

[empty lintel]

mercy and ana with 3 mythics each

[sick torrent]

arguably its worse for money

[dreamy solar]

ashe is apparently the #1 console dps rn

[weary badge]

and I can’t check pc rn

[long yoke]

Yeah she is

All hitscan is hraindead on console

Its like ashe then Emre rn

[sick torrent]

theres no hype for the mythics if the same characters get mythics and i feel like people wont bother if their old mythic looks better

[dreamy solar]

well whats funny is that Vendetta is clearing everyone in WR except ashe and widow

shes 53%

[long yoke]

Thats lowkey just wrs being wierd

Shes horrible on console rn

[sick torrent]

console top play is barely worse than pc top play

[heady kettle]

and pc

[long yoke]

Shes only decent because she can dive hitscans alright

[sick torrent]

but like the skill curve is insane

[long yoke]

Which is more prevalent on console

[sick torrent]

a masters console player would be like plat1 pc

[weary badge]

I mean it makes sense for money for the characters that normally sell well if they got a low selling one for their first mythic

mercy 1st didn’t sell well idk if ana 1st did

[sick torrent]

maybe but the cyborg ana skin is extremely common

[long yoke]

Not really?

[weary badge]

is it really

[spice badger]

honestly i don't understand the point of aim assist, if everyone's on joystick anyway what's the point of giving everyone the same handicap

[long yoke]

The skill difference really

[weary badge]

I don’t see it often

[long yoke]

Isnt that big

[spice badger]

just use the raw inputs

[dreamy solar]

lol?

[sick torrent]

its the most common mythic i see other than the mercy ones

[long yoke]

Its just an entirely different meta usually

[sick torrent]

masters 5

not like high masters

[rich rivet]

console 🥀

[vagrant horizon]

wasnt ana and mercys mythic when u were forced to get the mythic not when u could choose

and realy

[spice badger]

statistically, the most popular mythic is the Moira one

[vagrant horizon]

who buys mythic skins

[long yoke]

No

[dreamy solar]

console is harder than pc until high gm btw

[sick torrent]

oh yeah true i see that mythic all the time

[long yoke]

Mercy was the first one you could choose not to

[spice badger]

if you get the battlepass it gives you prisms, might as well

[left mortar]

on an unrelated note, the mercy nerf revert was the worst thing the balance team could've ever done.
not because mercy is so op or something but more specifically because it now means everyone thinks if they just cry about a nerf hard enough the balance team will revert it, and if they don't? cry harder.

[dry blaze]

deadass just legit had a good match as tank

[vagrant horizon]

yaya thats what i mean

[long yoke]

Yeah i agree purely on principle ngl

She was fine with the nerf

You just picked the minor to revert it

[sick torrent]

its harder because the controls are just worse

but like im saying a pc player would destroy a console player of the same rank until GM

[long yoke]

Mercys entire kit is genuinely held together by a thread

[spice badger]

mercy players feeling 1% of the pain genji feels each patch

[dreamy solar]

no it’s harder because if you peek for half a second or need to cross in the open you just explode

[left mortar]

She was fine she didn’t need that buff come back she may not be the best but she was fine

[left mortar]

Doomfist too

[weary badge]

I feel like that’s just how it’s always been

[long yoke]

Let's reduce his ammo by 6 again please

[dreamy solar]

the aa makes up for the mechanical diff

[sick torrent]

ive seen so many people who play on console m+k get put into pc lobbies and they get rolled

[weary badge]

just more likely to happen for mercy because theyre a large and vocal part of the playerbase

[spice badger]

and increase it next season?

[vagrant horizon]

mercy actually needs a rework but that would never happened and proven more so with the revert

[weary badge]

never gonna happen for someone like sombra

[violet crow]

i just dislike that they didn't even keep the ga nerf for a whole season like give players time to get used to it brother

[long yoke]

Console mk

[violet crow]

it ain't that bad

[left mortar]

They should have kept the changes and ignore the crying and let them adapt

[dreamy solar]

well yeah because theyre playing with aa on a mouse.. cause theyre cheating

[long yoke]

Yeah because theyre ass lmao

[dreamy solar]

cause theyre shit

[long yoke]

Literally lool

[dreamy solar]

ofc theyre gonna get rolled

[sick torrent]

i guess thats true

[long yoke]

The cheater is bad at the game without his cheats

Mind blowing

[sick torrent]

idk i just think a pc team of the same rank will have an easier time as long as the pc dont try to play double hitscan

because yeah then u get cooked by the enemy console widow with aim assist

[long yoke]

Didnt somebody like

Make a video on this before

I think theres a couple yt videos about it

[dreamy solar]

yeah and i think console won a few times

theyre about equal

[long yoke]

Yeah

[left mortar]

Overwatch is a game sense game so it is possible to outplay a cheater if your just way better

[long yoke]

The difference between console and pc isnt too big its mostly just different metas

Due to aa

[left mortar]

Aim isn’t needed for everything

[sick torrent]

ur tank is mostly reliable to stop the hacker

[tawdry pawn]

Does mercy actually have an insane win rate

[long yoke]

No

Shes like fine

[weary badge]

on console

[long yoke]

She was fine before

On console its because of

Ximming duos

[dreamy solar]

theyre two different games at the end of the day

pc is much looser positioning wise and moves at a faster pace because you won’t get scalped by aim assist hitscans

[long yoke]

Who get hard pocketed

[weary badge]

she has a pretty high wr on pc too for how ass ppl say she is

[sick torrent]

to be fair the nerf was absolutely terrible and a stupid idea from the dev team for considering it in the first place

[long yoke]

Since ashe meta

[left mortar]

Yeah you could dm,punch really most mitigations tank have

[weary badge]

but id assume it’s inflated by duoing with hitscans

[long yoke]

Tbf winrate

Really doesnt mean much

[sick torrent]

imagine if they made lucio wallride jump 10% lower itd be tbe same thing </3

[left mortar]

They should have nerfed dmg boost

[long yoke]

Unless its outrageously one sided

[sick torrent]

her movement was too good but thats because of the perk thats now removed

[long yoke]

Below 45% and above 55% is generally where wr should be looked at

[left mortar]

Make it 30% to 25%

[sick torrent]

ehhh

[left mortar]

Her dmg boost

[long yoke]

Makes her the worst character in the game instantly btw

[sick torrent]

i think deviating further than 47.5 and 52.5 is too much

[long yoke]

You cant touch her damage boost without making her braindead op or terrible

[dreamy solar]

console needs separate balancing patches for dmg numbers

[unreal tide]

goddamn

[dreamy solar]

look at this motherfucker

[left mortar]

I think she need a rework

[long yoke]

Yeah hes insane on console

[dreamy solar]

30% pr 55% wr

[long yoke]

Hitscan + tons of healing

[long yoke]

She does but she cant be or mercy mains whine

[sick torrent]

bap on pc 💔

[fathom ingot]

isnt everyone just

[sick torrent]

bap on console seems nuts tho

[long yoke]

Her entire kit is held hostage by mercy players

[fathom ingot]

hitscan in console

[junior phoenix]

The hair in soldiers mythic skin goes from
-fuckboi drip
-justin beiber
-republican

[rich rivet]

but what will the npc egirls play then

[unreal tide]

the problem with this is crossplay

[dull relic]

A little bit of everything

[scarlet fiber]

Yeah until it comes to shooting them

[long yoke]

Only exists in qp

[sick torrent]

mercy is fine now that they removed that one perk

[left mortar]

Let them adapt who cares if they cry let they experience the pain of doom and Genji

[fathom ingot]

maybe keep her beginners character

[dreamy solar]

not really cause then you’d just be put into pc pool

[long yoke]

And you just use whatever version of the game tbe servers are on

[long yoke]

Yeah lol

[dreamy solar]

which changes ur patch type

it can only go one way

[spice badger]

the devs need to abandon the idea of a pacifist healer hero fantasy

[left mortar]

Tan I have mitigations against them also if your unpredictable enough you can win

[dry blaze]

I suck man I get it

[long yoke]

I think they did try to make console only patches before

But I think they reverted it

[spice badger]

it kinda works for medic tf2 but only because he's incredibly vulnerable

[long yoke]

Pretty fast

Saying they want parity

[sick torrent]

it breaks custom games

[unreal tide]

medic isnt even a pacifist

[long yoke]

And not to complicate the game too much

[long yoke]

Yeah sounds about right

[spice badger]

i mean the gameplay loop

[dreamy solar]

i think torbs turrent still does less dmg on console if im not mistaken

[scarlet fiber]

unpredictable does NOT matter if they can track your skull and atomize you, the only chance id say you have of beating a cheater is ganking em

[dreamy solar]

idk that was years ago

[sick torrent]

also youd need a balance team for console and console stadium

thats a lot of work

[left mortar]

Why do flex dps get treated like trash all the time

[spice badger]

sure you're gonna be ubersawing people, but that's a rarity

[long yoke]

Cus they int half the time

[unreal tide]

its still more than what mercy does

[left mortar]

Also just spam ban them it work more than you expect

[unreal tide]

shitty little blaster whose only saving grace is the truck sized bullets

[scarlet fiber]

Mind games is an underrated tactic in overwatch istg

[weary badge]

why nobody got a major perk

its the end of the game

[left mortar]

Cause they take real skill and time to mastered

[dry blaze]

idek I was the only one who ever pushed

[long yoke]

Yeah both can be true

[weary badge]

playing vs ai but you queued into the ai team

[left mortar]

Hitscan take way less skill

[long yoke]

Are we slow

I agreed

They take more skill, which means they int more often

And get bullied more

[spice badger]

the barbie blaster itself isn't really the problem, the problem is that dealing damage with mercy is only an option if you have no other choice

[unreal tide]

hard role, less obvious value

[spice badger]

you're encouraged to be passive and do nothing

[left mortar]

Flex dps should always be better than hitscans they take way more time to do shit and the dev want the game to be baby easy

[dreamy solar]

they should replace dmg boost with an orb blast from her staff or some shit

[left mortar]

Honestly I wouldn’t mind

[unreal tide]

you could have their entire backline looking at you when youre behind them, but if no one picks up on that, you lose

[spice badger]

if mercy's kit was built around balancing healing and dealing damage, like kiriko, she would be a lot more interesting

sure, braindead fools would still healbot on her

but it wouldn't be limited to just that

[left mortar]

I hate the way they buffing Kiri nowadays she trying to make her a healbot

[unreal tide]

give her orisa javelin spin but with her staff

[violet crow]

brother overwatch classic zenyatta is so ass

[long yoke]

Last 4 words are unneeded

[spice badger]

all the classic supports feel like walking through sludge

[left mortar]

150hp lol

[long yoke]

Overwatch classic 💔

[unreal tide]

they really thought 150 health for a hero with less mobility than a brick made of tungsten was a good idea

[twilit cave]

someone told me to ask why Illari is packing in her Sundown skin (i did not say this out of my own will)

[long yoke]

Illari

[spice badger]

and transcendence doesn't give speed boost lol

[left mortar]

Tho discord is 50% more dmg

Which is insane

[twilit cave]

illari

[unreal tide]

i think it slows you down actually (feels like it at least)

[violet crow]

his ult move speed 🥀

[spice badger]

zooming out makes you feel slower

there's an item in ror2 that causes a blizzard to form around you that deals aoe, it also zooms out the camera

it feels like it slows you down, but it doesn't do anything to your speed

[dusky pelican]

In current patch it does

[spice badger]

i mean classic

[dusky pelican]

And has for a long ass time

In classic it slows you a lot

[long yoke]

That item also happens to be ass tbf

[spice badger]

hey it's free damage

[left mortar]

The dev need to get some balls and nerf dva nerf Kiri nerf zarga

[long yoke]

One of the worst reds oat

[left mortar]

A real nerf

[violet crow]

only good item to stack in ror2 is willowisp

[spice badger]

kid named voidsent flame

[long yoke]

Crit classes

[spice badger]

the devs genuinely believe kiri is the same type of hero as mercy moira lw

[long yoke]

Dont talk about some item stacking is bad if you don't play triple shot huntress

[left mortar]

Kiri has been broken since the time she was released and she still broken because she so CUTE AND SELL SKINS

[junior phoenix]

Lmao I thought it stayed at lvl 1 it ruins the skin

[left mortar]

it so bias

[unreal tide]

sure if youre playing railgunner or huntress but its goated on loader and merc

[long yoke]

Loader saying item stacking is bad

Yeah just say you dont know about no bands

[unreal tide]

tf are you talkin abt

[long yoke]

Merc LOVES purity stacking too

[left mortar]

Most mercy get boosted

[violet crow]

last time i played ror2 was around 2022

[long yoke]

Oh yeah its alright on loader

[unreal tide]

the new dlc are pretty good

though the power creep is unreal

[violet crow]

there was a point in time when if you stacked willowisp the map just gets cleared lol

[unreal tide]

i mean still pretty much does

[dry blaze]

a good match?

[unreal tide]

i remember i stacked shrimp and will o wisp like 4 hours into a looped run and my game dropped to 2 frames every time an enemy pack spawned

[weary badge]

I tried playing double railgun multi after playing railgunner and like it’s still good but it feels so much weaker idk

[unreal tide]

shit was terrifying when the void got curious

[heady kettle]

\

[weary badge]

like ig it’s easier to aim so maybe it should be that way

but railgunner is just insane

[heady kettle]

//w\\<

[weary badge]

awesome sauce

[unreal tide]

idk, i never liked the double rebar thing, always preferred the basic kit of nailgun/rebar

[heady kettle]

contruction worker comms

[weary badge]

I wanna try the double nailgun power mode thing but its annoying to unlock power mode

[rigid sorrel]

guys, do you think the Global Community Progress Bar will be full before the anniversary ends ? it seems to be static since a while :/

[cedar brook]

DOES ANYONE HAVE OVERWATCH DOWNLOADED THROUGH BATTLE.NEY?
I need one file.
I have a gamepass but no skins on Steam.
Retail folder and it will contain Overwatch.exe.

[violet crow]

most people have it on battlenet

especially ones that play on alts

but i doubt anyone will help you get files

[silk steeple]

wp

[spice badger]

gamepass only works battle.net

dunno why but it is what it is

[cedar brook]

damn

[amber crow]

Honestly, I think it just takes a while to update

[spice badger]

you cant get one file, the game is online so it checks your license through the launcher

[cedar brook]

i dont wanna download the whole game again but someone said if i have the file its going to work

[rigid sorrel]

not possible to "repair" the game without redownload it like on steam with a files check ?

[dry blaze]

killed a mauga as mercy my aura will never lessen now

[dark scroll]

Haiii

who want me

[lament adder]

diamond is actual hell omg is anyone here willing to play? im pc eu

[dark scroll]

@regal elbow u got a duo

[lament adder]

Oh ty lol

idk if i get counterswapped one more time im actually going to lose it

[dark scroll]

what hero

[lament adder]

anran

shes the only dps i find fun and the reason i picekd up dps

[dark scroll]

umm

umm

[silk steeple]

ban cass every game if u play

[dark scroll]

@regal elbow offer rescinded

[silk steeple]

fdps

and it’s free

[fierce fog]

i've been playing Zen and Anran pmo

[dark scroll]

cass isnt even that big a counter

[lament adder]

um yea thats what i do

[dark scroll]

anran still claps his cheeks

[lament adder]

but still

zarya kiriko pharah echo

[silk steeple]

it’s like the easiest thing to play against her

[lament adder]

i can outplay them but my teamattes dont do anything if i trade

[silk steeple]

other things that r good harder to play

[lament adder]

its her biggest counter

[lament adder]

dude diving zen is terrifying 😭

[dark scroll]

if u get the 1st shot vs him js time your invurnability for nade and you kill him

[lament adder]

not rlly since his damage is so huge he can just kill you anyways

[silk steeple]

don’t listen to him

cars2ondvd = ego demon

[lament adder]

even if you dodge it, a few shots and youre dead

how tf do junkrat otps get to champ

like actually, i peaked dia 2 almost dia 1 and now im back in dia 5

[silk steeple]

they all live on the game cuz it’s required to be good at that hero

[lament adder]

i get that anran is inconsistent but damn

[lament adder]

i mean i have time on anran and im good on her

but she just has so many counters

[heady kettle]

im nothing more than a masters chudball supreme

im back to when i first started talking in ows

wait no i started m5 or smth

[lament adder]

idk what to do cause once i start doing well they all counterswap me

[silk steeple]

if ur diamond ur not good no ego

[lament adder]

and i dont play other heroes

[silk steeple]

still much to learn young one

[heady kettle]

im m2 bro how to win guys

[empty lintel]

self flame

[lament adder]

no, i mean good as in not bad, not amazing

[silk steeple]

ik

ur best hero

[lament adder]

id say im better on juno

[heady kettle]

do people pay attention to "i need healing pings"

[empty lintel]

let tanji and I boost you

[heady kettle]

tanji...

[silk steeple]

it’s chill getting out of diamond is easy

[lament adder]

um yes

[heady kettle]

#nothanks

[empty lintel]

he has contacts

trust me it worked on me

[lament adder]

how 😭 i almost did

theres so many smurfs first of all

[heady kettle]

im spamming i need healing next to a lw and he didnt turn around

[dark scroll]

ur dps is higher in that close range and hed have to hit both headshots while ur dashing thru him n NO one is doing that

[silk steeple]

most of the time in dia it’s ppl making 1-2 rlly big mistakes that they don’t realize but then when u become aware and u fix that every game is piss

[lament adder]

um yes he is¿

his bullets are the size of a house

[heady kettle]

i had a lucio named mrnugget that was lvl 627 or smth

[lament adder]

should i watch replay 😭

[heady kettle]

he was also m3

[silk steeple]

ur not worth the heal

[lament adder]

maybe im just tilted

[viral brook]

he's he's gm now 🐐

[heady kettle]

not nice dude

[lament adder]

cause im deranking in every single role 😭

[unreal tide]

tbf half the time you dont fucking hear the voicelines

[empty lintel]

wait is he actually

haven't played with him in months

[viral brook]

(on freshie)

[empty lintel]

nvm then

LOL

[heady kettle]

does the MASSIVE healing sign and the text not appear on their screen or what

[dark scroll]

buddy

😂

[viral brook]

but he said he was winning games afterwards so

[dark scroll]

js dont argue against me on this

[viral brook]

might just be elo hell man

[dark scroll]

you have a good matchup into cass

[lament adder]

i hate cassidy with a passion youre not convincing me

[empty lintel]

okay I could prob win mid champ games on a freshie if I got lucky teams

[lament adder]

hes so babied by the devs

[dark scroll]

his only way to stop you is nade and you can bypass it

[empty lintel]

doesn't mean anything

[dark scroll]

theres worse heroes

[lament adder]

actually no

[dark scroll]

Yes?

[unreal tide]

those signs are also fucky when they come from mfs who are not on your screen

[dark scroll]

theres like 8 worse heroes

[lament adder]

its only sometimes, it can stop you mid animation

tell me 1 counter worse for anran

[viral brook]

kiri

[lament adder]

istg if you say kiriko

[dark scroll]

?

Just predict it

[lament adder]

in any case id say anran counters kiriko

[dark scroll]

its not hard to know when cass is gna nade

[viral brook]

im not sure how anran counters kiri

[lament adder]

cass will wait for me to use dancing blaze

[dark scroll]

then hes gna die

?

if he waits

[viral brook]

it's too late if he waits that long

[unreal tide]

pretty shortly after you engage him, usually

[lament adder]

the way i see it, suzu is the most important cooldown in the game and anran can force it easily

[viral brook]

I wouldn't rly say it's an easy force

[lament adder]

just light her up

[dark scroll]

Yeah...

[lament adder]

and then she eithers suzus or dies

[viral brook]

it's a bad Kiri if they are suzuing bc you put them on fire

[dark scroll]

yh like he js dies if he waits that long

Cass has to outplay the anran in this matchup to win

[heady kettle]

wait hold on

[dry blaze]

I felt like I did good

[lament adder]

still you can force it no?

[heady kettle]

thats it

[viral brook]

and yea a Cass cannot afford to wait that long

[unreal tide]

i stg theyre always itching to use that thing

[heady kettle]

no more mr nice guy

[dark scroll]

anran can instakill him if cass misses nade

[lament adder]

i dont think kiri counters anran at all

[viral brook]

I think it's difficult to

many other heroes will force kiri cd easier

[lament adder]

theres many other heroes with cleanse, i feel like if you think anran is bad into kiri you just havent played anran

[dark scroll]

feel a lil bad for your team but its 6v6 n any of them couldve swapped to sup

[lament adder]

true, but anran still has a good way to force

[dark scroll]

ur also dia and aerux is mid gm

[dry blaze]

im sorry I tried my best but it wasnt good enough

[viral brook]

how is it good way to force it

[silk steeple]

masters forever i fear

[viral brook]

if you gotta engage hard

[lament adder]

im also an otp who has played and won in gm lobbies?

[heady kettle]

and yet?

[dark scroll]

nah its not a you issue its a mercy issue, mercy js isnt good at healing 5 ppl alone cuz she can only heal 1 at a time for like 40hps

[dark scroll]

sure you have

[heady kettle]

losing in diamond

[lament adder]

if you use your cooldowns to burn her yea, but if you burn her with primary not rlly?

[silk steeple]

aerux come faceit

[lament adder]

you can dash away

[silk steeple]

we tear up these open matches

[lament adder]

yea 😭

[viral brook]

yes but no good Kiri is gonna let you force suzu

[dark scroll]

kiri usually wins the neutral fight vs anran

[viral brook]

if you are just using M1 on her

[dark scroll]

or js

tps away

[lament adder]

ig i dont play into good kiris

[viral brook]

she is gonna poke you out or leave

not just eat your M1 shots and suzu herself

[dark scroll]

ngl a kiri sees an anran in an off angle the kiri is js leaving

[lament adder]

id say reaper is more insuferble to play into

[viral brook]

yea like if any hero sees anran in a duel

[silk steeple]

reaper is the goatttttt

[lament adder]

he has a huge advantage over me and has self-cleanse , and if i run away he tps to me

[dark scroll]

well reaper is like the most bs braindead hero in the game rn

[viral brook]

you usually get out bc anran is strong in the 1v1

Unless she hits a shot on you then you're forced out and she's chilling

[silk steeple]

yeah

[honest ivy]

The bar doesn’t even move, they gotta manually update it cause they r cooked

[silk steeple]

when i play into anran it’s free farms

[dark scroll]

only dps wjho wins is reaper bastion and thats cuz reaper is a bs hero

[honest ivy]

They’ll give us max rewards each week don’t worry

[lament adder]

kiris in my lobby are not hitting shit

[lament adder]

ive heard anran is bad in higher elo, why do you think that is?

[silk steeple]

she’s ok

[torn totem]

You’re right thanks, I often teleport myself too far and it messes me up I was just using it obviously to get back to my team quicker and it’s harder to track but it’s hard to secure kills without the melee perk and being out of ammo

[viral brook]

wait who pinged about faceit lmao I can't find it

[lament adder]

id say its because her skill floor is too high and maybe her skill ceiling isnt enough¿

[dark scroll]

she js has to afk off angles and she either instakills who walks in, or leaves cuz a reaper walks in

[silk steeple]

it’s js easy to peel her and she loses duels to other fdps

[torn totem]

That’s possible? I’ll check that out thanks, thanks

[silk steeple]

she’s op in 1v1s vs most supps and hitscans

but it’s hard to get into that situation

[weary badge]

maroon

[dark scroll]

only fdps she loses a duel to realistically is reaper and tracer if the tracer giga outplays her

[viral brook]

yea then if you are vs a kiri that can't hit shots and won't kite you I agree anran is good into that kiri

[silk steeple]

hey

[weary badge]

hi

[honest ivy]

Realistically you’ll waste like 2-3 people’s cooldowns as Anran and either die and pray ur team has braincells to push on that or u back out

[lament adder]

take angles to do 44dmg 😭

[silk steeple]

me n my friends gonna make a team for the next ssn of faceit

[honest ivy]

I don’t think she’s good to solo queue with

[silk steeple]

no more one trick nonsense i actually play real heroes now

[lament adder]

i usually dont die idk

my uptime is low tho and i think thats an issue

[dark scroll]

...

[junior phoenix]

Bruh I went against a zen Who would sound white the fuck out of me as tracer and pop out of a corner and 1 tap me.

That was crazy and he is on my team the next match and he's telling me I was annoying the shit out of him, and how this game will be easy now

[dark scroll]

u realize anran is extremely oppresive in an offangle

[dry blaze]

anran is best at harrassing

[dark scroll]

if shes there no1 else is walking in unless its a tank, reaper or a tracer

[lament adder]

people say this when tracer exists

[junior phoenix]

It wasn't even intentional

[lament adder]

her primary does very little dmg, but yea i still off angle

[violet crow]

i just found out a new overwatch feature purely by accident

[lament adder]

but i feel like its useless cause her dmg is so low from afar

[dry blaze]

anran is my fav hero in the game so idc

[dark scroll]

you dc about her primary js set them on fire and fan them

use your dashes to go inside of them

[lament adder]

you need to be close to fan

[viral brook]

you don't rly need to do a lot of dmg a lot of the time

[silk steeple]

yeah

[dark scroll]

and if you sit in an off angle you are close to them?

[silk steeple]

it’s js spam

[lament adder]

is it really an off-angle if youre going close to them?

[violet crow]

if you press ctrl you can navigate menus by only using keyboard

[viral brook]

you just need to poke them on fire

and that's already threatening your all in

[lament adder]

idk much about terms

[viral brook]

they gotta respect that

[dark scroll]

Wait behind the corner of said off angle?

[honest ivy]

Bruh it’s like 10m

That’s good

[lament adder]

i know im supposed to go behind their team to poke from there so theyre forced to pay attention to me or risk me killing someone

but even if i kill someone its usually useless

[dull relic]

Yea..

[dark scroll]

or u can play safe and lock down an off angle

[lament adder]

off angle means not main right¿

[dark scroll]

yes

[neat arrow]

do u guys think u could win as tank if your 2 dps are worse than theirs

[dark scroll]

any off angle dps

lets say soldier

[neat arrow]

but you’re better than their tank

[dark scroll]

soldier now cannot walk there cuz youre there

[honest ivy]

I mean if u don’t adapt and do the same thing all game with that flank and it doesn’t work then u deserve to lose

[dark scroll]

yeah depending on the tank matchup

[red bough]

yes

[dry blaze]

I tried

[lament adder]

what i mean is say, kings row in attack, i go behind the building with highground and drop to poke from down so they have someone pressuring from 2 sides

[lament adder]

okok

[dark scroll]

@restive pulsar how is this the same exact situation when i told you hwere to play as anran

[lament adder]

youre very helpful tyyy<3

[lament adder]

LOl

[honest ivy]

Kings row it’s good to occupy an area and not let them have it

U limit their options

[viral brook]

You won't always need to play to kill someone you just can sit there

[restive pulsar]

happens

[dark scroll]

its js an odd coincidence cuz i spent close to 2 hours telling him how to play kr 1st attack as attacker and defender and i sadly no longer have the anran passion to explain

[viral brook]

And will auto give your team more space to walk

[lament adder]

i usually win in kings row until they go cassidy or reaper

[viral brook]

so you can just afk on the angle until your team do something

[violet crow]

yea we ain't getting that lootbox....

[honest ivy]

If u stop that flank hero going to the right then that is already huge value

[spice badger]

an unfortunate part of playing mercy, you are forced to rely on your teammates doing things

[restive pulsar]

i'll hit gm when they drop a patch that fixes all the bullshit anran has

cba rn

[lament adder]

i mean anran is my highest lvl hero after juno id expect myself to know this stuff

[honest ivy]

It’s legit a png they need to update that shit

[junior phoenix]

It's crazy to see the perspective of your enemies post match after you felt like they were out playing you, and in fact they felt the inverse

[lament adder]

what bs¿

[honest ivy]

They will give us all rewards weekly anyway

[dark scroll]

no u shouldnt ur also diamond so youre learning

[dark scroll]

i beg never fix or buff anran

[silk steeple]

very difficult

but it’s winnable

[lament adder]

idk what to improve on anran tbh

[honest ivy]

I think she’s in a good spot

[lament adder]

maybe knowing went to attack?

[lament adder]

not at all

[restive pulsar]

ult targeting, ult retargeting, ult noregs (incredibly rare), rez delays, E delays, figure out what they want from her dash and make her less braindead

prob more i'm missing

but eh

[lament adder]

shes too easy

[honest ivy]

What rank are you

[leaden barn]

how much time remaining for battlepass to get over. in game its bugged i think? says 20620 days

[lament adder]

THIS

[honest ivy]

Too easy but u are coming in Here about ur struggles

[unreal tide]

s3 is june 16th afaik

[honest ivy]

Just seems contradictory

[lament adder]

she is easy to get value on how are you going to deny this

moira is easy and still not everyone gets to gm on her

[restive pulsar]

anran is absurdly easy she's just genji with training wheels

it's just easy =/= strong

[dark scroll]

general positioning mainly, know where to be

[spice badger]

if im on ball and they arent running a full CC team, and i am better than their tank, i can make up for my shitty dps players

[lament adder]

and it could be fixed by reducing the burn % her abilities do

[restive pulsar]

anran downtime is fucking miserable

but they can't rlly fix that

[long yoke]

cus shes an ass character

[lament adder]

why not¿

[dark scroll]

thats js cuz moiras kit as ass and usually ppl who play her are also ass but they js have 8282828 hours

[restive pulsar]

you need to be rlly rlly efficient with ur positioning

[unreal tide]

how it feels vs how it is

[restive pulsar]

because it'd mean they either need to give her innate movement (think double jump/wallclimb) or reduce movement cds (terrible idea)

neither work for anran

[honest ivy]

Moira is bad I don’t think she’s comparable to anran

[dark scroll]

next season start, itts 3 weeks after mid season

[spice badger]

moira is the queen of inflated egos

[dark scroll]

theyre dia

[spice badger]

you do nothing and the game (the scoreboard) tells you you're doing amazing

[restive pulsar]

worth noting that i do not think anran needs insane buffs but i would happily accept whatever nerfs allow her to get either of these

[dark scroll]

no thats sym venture reaper players

[junior phoenix]

I'd say it's even if ur diffing the enemy tank. And are in a match up where you can be the one to keep them locked up or dead. They didn't say bad DPS just not as good

[honest ivy]

Moira one tricks will dps all game and play for the leaderboard stats when her whole team gets fucked every fight and it doesn’t work

[long yoke]

anran is a worse tracer in like

90% of situations

[unreal tide]

one has a 52.7 WR in GM, the other is sitting at 41.4
guess whos who

[long yoke]

shes just easier to play

[lament adder]

imo they should make her inferno rush not do dmg and only ignite 35% but give her a shorter cooldown, and dancing blaze only do dmg to burnt enemies (maybe 75-100?) and do 35% ignition bar too. Also her ult should be reworked straight up, self-revive is useless. Oh and her perks need to change too

[dark scroll]

me when the enemy team uses beat and kitsune on last fight but its okay we have coal

[long yoke]

higher skill floor lower skill ceiliing

[honest ivy]

🔥

[rigid sorrel]

except doing the repetitive 10 games as mission, do we have other way if we already have done the other challenge ?

[long yoke]

dont worry they took the perk and went only damage mode on coal

[lament adder]

That way she needs aim and has a higher skill ceiling while lowering skill floor

[long yoke]

w moira players

[honest ivy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1356583275577217094/1437952097734623263/attachment.gif

[red bough]

kiri had a 45wr mate these stats r not important

[restive pulsar]

far too risky changes, also you'd make her way too reliant on m1 poke to get anything done

imo

[red bough]

which is why it bothers me that they balance even remotely around them

[lament adder]

isnt that good tho?

[long yoke]

they are sometimes

[spice badger]

did you know coal has less single target damage than primary, and moiras will still use it in 1v1s

[lament adder]

she should be reliant on aim

[long yoke]

a 40% wr is abysmal

[unreal tide]

41.4 is dogshit regardless of how much winrate on a hero matters 😭

[dark scroll]

"but but how else do they know how to balance heroes"🥹

[restive pulsar]

ok imagine you're contesting a tracer/genji for space and now suddenly your shift/E don't deal any damage

[red bough]

a broken clock is right twice a day

[long yoke]

but thats because

moira players are all dogshit

and you should insta avoid themn

always

[spice badger]

kiri is an outlier, people switch to kiri as they're losing to tp out of spawn

[lament adder]

hit your shots like they have to do

[dry blaze]

im trying so hard

[honest ivy]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HGUS_QGW8AAKsyf.webp

[red bough]

these stats are not important

how else do u want me to get that across

[lament adder]

and once theyre ignited you can use e for more dmg and self-heal

[unreal tide]

yet moira is banned more than illari up there

[dark scroll]

bru it might be time to not solo heal as mercy..

[silk steeple]

tru

[red bough]

it doesnt tell you why theyre winning or losing either just that its happening

[restive pulsar]

1/3 of these heroes is relying on slow inconsistent projectiles and cannot just hard engage and 1clip/1shot you in melee range

[spice badger]

the only advice i can give you is to try another support

[long yoke]

id lowkey ban moira if i saw that pos on my team at gm