overwatch-serious

[fallen wyvern]

That would make sense

[dark scroll]

Hii

[fallen wyvern]

I would tbh just to look unique

[unreal tide]

and yeah accuracy on kiriko is not super important (rank 3 eu, rank 1 NA)

rank 1 eu is stinky and is on priv

[brave void]

traaash 😂😂😂

[clever coral]

just make sure to keep your crosshair head height and calmly aim to predict enemy strafes (dont flick too much, u have a good amount of time to track between shots), up close u can try to stuff the kunai in their face and just have the hitbox spawn inside their head without need for great accuracy

[vernal spoke]

I use mine on mercy cuz the only other skin I have is ugly asf

[dark scroll]

🙂

[dusk field]

@mental blade 1v1 score

[urban lily]

anniversary event btw and we get glorified recolors

[dark scroll]

whos he 1v1'ng

[mental blade]

51-15 him

[brave void]

its meant to be like

[mental blade]

Guys a demon

[brave void]

half sefault

half ugly ass purple

[dark scroll]

who r u 1v1'ng

[vernal spoke]

Tysm 😭 ❤️

[brave void]

how does this accumulate 10 yesrs

[dark scroll]

@mental blade

[dusk field]

you must training arc

[brave void]

of overwstch

[mental blade]

I don’t like tracer 1v1 bro

[dark scroll]

who is u 1v1'ng bru

[dusk field]

cause your traced ass

[fallen wyvern]

They look cool but ugly

[mental blade]

I’m still relatively new to game my issues are not 1v1 related

It’s entirely my pathing and gamesense

[urban lily]

fair but some of them legit look like accidental palette swap

the fuck

[mental blade]

Both r sooooooo shit

[dusk field]

arent yiu champ

[dark scroll]

hes like gm2 or gm3

[unreal tide]

theyre nice skins but with the context of what they were made for, theyre disappointing

well, tracer has RGB guns at least

[restive ember]

And stats never show the whole picture, on kiri you just perma spam when you can to maximize output so the accuracy will just look bad

[brave void]

basically

[west niche]

my teammate found a new way to play pharah

[mental blade]

Tracer compensation

[vernal spoke]

Well it’s better than 10 years as a headband slapped on their ow1 base skins

[mental blade]

Chester *

[dark scroll]

And then allah himself comes in and makes sure you never hit a kunai

[unreal tide]

exactly

[mental blade]

CHEATER*

[tawdry pawn]

Enter the sigma arc

[brave void]

what is this referencing

[fallen wyvern]

Shooting the floot till they kill themselfs

[restive ember]

Fr

[vernal spoke]

Nothing.. just those new years headbands yk

[unreal tide]

as long as you can hit your shots when they actually matter youre fine on kiriko accuracy wise

[brave void]

or others like zarya where ur using the secondary to move urself

[west niche]

no its where they afk backline and shoot rocket at enemt

[vernal spoke]

Ok bro

[dark scroll]

What?

[brave void]

TEAR IT DOWN

[fallen wyvern]

I had a pharah in my classic game on numbani spamming rockets BEHIND us at a flank that didn't fucking exist

Standing still to

[brave void]

waiting for the day pharah players use natural cover

[unreal tide]

guys congratulate my steam friend (i have zero clue on who this guy is)

[dark scroll]

👏

[unreal tide]

but evidently hes awesome

[vernal spoke]

Flying hero’s are legit my worst nightmare

[brave void]

this was prpb in ow classic

[unreal tide]

hes actually queueing comp

[brave void]

interesting

[dark scroll]

how so

[brave void]

kiriko projectiles

against flying targets

[vernal spoke]

I’ve seen enough nerf genij again 😭

[fallen wyvern]

Still aint got this after like 6 years of playing

[dark scroll]

not that hard to hit

[vernal spoke]

Do you even play kiriko

[brave void]

doesnt mean it isnt annoying

or a hassle

lol

[dark scroll]

a little

[dark scroll]

i wouldnt say its annoying or a hassle

[fallen wyvern]

hate the paraphrase lol

[fathom ingot]

ngl is it me or is kiri kunai's projectile much easier to hit than any other projectile

[unreal tide]

mfs here cant comprehend something being annoying despite not being hard to deal with

[brave void]

well its depending on how the enemy is playing

[dark scroll]

Because its not annoying to ME

or hard to deal with to ME

[vernal spoke]

My aim is legit better in mercy than it is on kiriko and I’m a kiri one trick..

[fallen wyvern]

Make zen hitscan with less dmg but faster fore rate

[brave void]

like im gonna get pissed off if im fighting a pharah taking cover

[urban lily]

i main jpc am i scary

[dark scroll]

keep headshotting her and force her to not peak

or body shot her

[fathom ingot]

bet ur healbotting kiri

[brave void]

less damage nerf doing nothing

[vernal spoke]

Ew no 😭 people always complain I have to heal more compared to a lucio

[fallen wyvern]

It literally is doing something but with discord it wouldn't matter

[brave void]

thats what I meant

lol

[fathom ingot]

idk he has 0 survivability so maybe make him hitscan but he has bad dmg reduction

[clever coral]

that's just soldier's gun

[dark scroll]

..

no

[fallen wyvern]

Idk I just like playing zen and I think his aim is weird

[brave void]

50 damage projectiles

[fathom ingot]

kiri does 60

[unreal tide]

he jus needs a better way to deal with flankers than merely outdueling

[fathom ingot]

and she can fight with 0 risk

[dark scroll]

Why should he need a better way? hes fine as is

[fallen wyvern]

Outdualing is what he is meant for

And to not have footsteps so he can fuck up unsuspecting anas

[unreal tide]

she shoots slower tho

[clever coral]

yes but he has discord

[fallen wyvern]

She still shoots pretty fast

[fathom ingot]

almost similar

[clever coral]

he can turn that 50 into 65 which lets him kill 250s in 2 shots

[brave void]

I know zenyatta has good dps lol

[fallen wyvern]

With headshots?

[brave void]

thats what i was trying to say

discorb orb is one of the best moves itg

[clever coral]

yes

[vernal spoke]

If you have that perk selected yeah unless if it’s stadium

[clever coral]

65x2x2=260

[fallen wyvern]

Idk kiri perks

[left mortar]

Kiri is just broken but they don’t nerf her because she sell skins

[unreal tide]

she also has a very skewed winrate

[vernal spoke]

One of her perks allows her quick step for a kunai and walk speed boost of 4 seconds I’m pretty sure dont use it tho

[unreal tide]

which to blizz means shes actually fine

[fallen wyvern]

Does tp still clense?

[unreal tide]

no

[left mortar]

Yeah because most people don’t know her potential and they are bad if you actually played her right you would destroy everything

[unreal tide]

i always just go fortune foxtrot but im a boosted shitter

[vernal spoke]

Nope pretty sure they nerfed that

[dark scroll]

that is the better one

[left mortar]

Her utility dmg survivability hit box is all broken

[clever coral]

if u go ANYTHING other than fortune foxtrot u need to be BANNED OFF THE GAME

[vernal spoke]

Fortune teller and foxtrot 🥹 🫶

[dark scroll]

foxtrot is the better major

[unreal tide]

also it took me way too long to understand why they named the perk foxtrot

[vernal spoke]

I still dunno what it means

[brave void]

its a dabce

dance

[long yoke]

Just got music festival pharah from a lootbox its so peak

[vernal spoke]

Ohh

[long yoke]

I dont really fw pharah but the skin is fire

[light violet]

I want celestial Juno in my lootbox

💔

[brave void]

show

[unreal tide]

was i wrong goddamn it

[long yoke]

No image perms 💔

[brave void]

it could go both ways

[brave void]

IN DMS

chariot requiem

[floral wyvern]

white cat is goodboy brown cat 50% good boy

[unreal tide]

i figured fox cus shes a fox girl and trot as in the slightly faster walk some animals do

[light violet]

That’s what I thought 😭

[brave void]

it
could prob be that if they spaced out

fox and trot

[unreal tide]

well either way im not a complete shitter at least

[vernal spoke]

My loot boxes need to stop giving me symmetra and pharah skins bro I’m crying

[unreal tide]

even if my masters peak is jsut me abusing ana

[dark scroll]

wish there was a way to ban heroes

[unreal tide]

and fresh boost

[dark scroll]

like i dont want sym venture lw moira skins

[light violet]

I keep getting fucking rein skins

I don’t play that old hag 💔

[long yoke]

I got cardboard brig yesterday which was peak

[vernal spoke]

Honestly to lower the chances of me getting certain hero skins I buy all the white credits skins I can so the only thing they can give is shop skins

[unreal tide]

I keep getting support skins

[light violet]

I already have the white credit skins

But I get duplicates of them

https://tenor.com/view/zach-campbell-zachary-campbell-zachary-explosion-zachary-campbell-explosion-zach-campbell-explode-gif-5706179336754824841

[unreal tide]

I'm jus destined to play support IG

[long yoke]

Real

The new dupe system is so ass ngl

[light violet]

If I see one more duplicate of a default skin recolour I will freak the fuck out

[west niche]

holy shit 44% no cali

[clever coral]

NO CALIFORNIA!?

[west niche]

bro i wanna kiss my supports and dps

[long yoke]

Winning trend uphill does that tbf

[dark scroll]

no, no cali

[vernal spoke]

The only good skin I ever got out of lootboxes as for support wise it’s blackwatch Moira and hashimoto kiriko

[long yoke]

Its peak

[dark scroll]

wb me

[west niche]

endorsement not enough

[clever coral]

swap ss to ll

[long yoke]

Hashimoto kiri might be the worst legendary skin in the game

[west niche]

endorsement not enough i want my whole team to have a happy life forever

and a kiss

[light violet]

I got this cunty skin

[long yoke]

Its clean but its genuinely just an epic skin

[long yoke]

Fire

[vernal spoke]

I like it but never use it cuz the mythic weapon doesn’t go well with it

[long yoke]

Ive had 8 reinhardt skins from lootboxes

Which is funny in a miserable way

[vernal spoke]

Even with the gold variant

[west niche]

winston rein only

ignore ram i misclicked him

[unreal tide]

I got emo girl Kiriko (visual kei) and bee mercy just yesterday and I opened like 3 normal boxes

[brave void]

what??

[brave void]

that skin is cool

[light violet]

I got these 2 rein skins

Shame I don’t gaf about him

[long yoke]

Yeah same

[light violet]

Bc they’re both nice skins

[long yoke]

Isnt the right one a collab

Diablo

[vernal spoke]

I bought visual kei with white credits I’m pretty sure..

[light violet]

I think so

[vernal spoke]

I’ve gotten collab items out of lootboxes tho..

Diablo items

[light violet]

I got this and almost Kms

[long yoke]

You can only get the diablo stuff

[light violet]

Just give me the original version 💔

[long yoke]

I got starsheep as my first lootbox legendary

Its so peak

[clever coral]

can starcraft items also be opened from boxes

[light violet]

I believe so yes

[long yoke]

Maybe

[light violet]

And WoW shit

[long yoke]

I dont remember

[light violet]

Any blizzard IP can

[long yoke]

Its al the internal collab stuff

Yeah

[unreal tide]

really? it's not in the hero screen at least, either way tho

[light violet]

If activision ever play ball and do cod x ow that’ll be in lootboxes 👀

[cinder canyon]

can i q with a group if im in placements???

[vernal spoke]

Depends on rank

[cinder canyon]

i only have rank in one role

[unreal tide]

oh yeah gotta run placements again next season huh

[west niche]

maybe

[vernal spoke]

I remember buying it for a 1000 white credits in season 18 cuz I didn’t have any gold ones..

[light violet]

Placements are in s4 (August)

[unreal tide]

oh

nvm them

then

[light violet]

They only happen in February and August

[brave void]

who are you calling a monkey? im... a scientist!

[vernal spoke]

Shit not again

[light violet]

We might get a new comp skin similar to that ugly ass Freja galactic one in s4 as well

Doom’s one was added in s1 but they may add a second one

[vernal spoke]

Only freja skin I actually wanted

[west niche]

its usually 38

[cinder canyon]

but i ca i q or nah??

[clever coral]

YES

[light violet]

I have it and it’s mid

All of her skins mid lowkey

[vernal spoke]

Yeah you can💔

[cinder canyon]

tyty

[clever coral]

BUT IT MIGHT BE WIDE QUEUE IF YOUR INTERNAL MMR (NOT PREDICTED RANK) IS OUT OF RANGE OF YOUR TEAMMATES

[cinder canyon]

WHAT

[vernal spoke]

I just like purple🥹

[cinder canyon]

ill try

ty

[clever coral]

why she ourple

[vernal spoke]

Hmm I dunno

[west niche]

WHAT HAPPENED TO UR CAPSLOCK MR BEAR

HOW ARE YOU

[clever coral]

caps lock key got stuck in the washing machine

[dreamy solar]

just got into an argument with one of the best console players while he was on an alt

someone kill me

[clever coral]

who bro

[clever coral]

im good bro

[dreamy solar]

jello 😭

[clever coral]

are you blue rank yet

[tawdry pawn]

My bad

[clever coral]

time to put streamer mode on and hide in shame

gg go next

[dreamy solar]

oh trust it’s been on

we made up but like damn

[vernal spoke]

I’m about to start tweaking why are all my teammates novice whilst I’m all star 😭

[dreamy solar]

blue? am i dumb?

[clever coral]

diamond

[dreamy solar]

mf

[clever coral]

i was asking heimdall

[dreamy solar]

o

[west niche]

no

p2

[clever coral]

this dude getting 44% on win bro

4 games and u got it

[west niche]

winston rein only

i enjoy basic heroes

[dreamy solar]

battle tags aren’t you unique are they?

[clever coral]

btags are not unique

[dreamy solar]

okay cool

might change mine to frogman

[clever coral]

u can have any name u just get random numbers

[dreamy solar]

what a great opportunity!

[west niche]

frogman isnt a frog

gg

[dreamy solar]

righttt righttt

[clever coral]

u should spend hundreds of dollars on name change tokens

fishing for a funny number id

like frogman#6767

[dreamy solar]

thatd be cool tho

[west niche]

grayell and frogman why do yall hope in my knowledge to win games

[clever coral]

what do u mean

[floral wyvern]

silver winton 💀

[west niche]

yesterday u said i should have enough knowledge to win on rein vs hg maps

[west niche]

yeah idk wtf went wrong

might be qp trolls

[dreamy solar]

winning trend 🔥

[west niche]

or 6v6 trolling

[floral wyvern]

[west niche]

how do i get bronze winston

[floral wyvern]

lkose alot

[clever coral]

yea you're smart bro

[mental blade]

Did any of ur alts

Get smoked

[clever coral]

not recently

[mental blade]

Apparently everyone’s r getting smoked

😭

[clever coral]

i havent had an alt banned in like months

[mental blade]

Means u have bad aim

Gg

[clever coral]

barraim

[west tundra]

honestly not sure, but time alignment isn't as big of a deal on stereo because they're right next to eachother

[sonic otter]

Wait speaking of alts since they made the change for unlocking ranked from 20 to 50 does it only affect new accounts?

[clever coral]

no

if u have an older account that hasn't unlocked comp the wins req is bumped up to 50 im pretty sure

[long yoke]

Yeah p sure

If its unlocked no though

[sonic otter]

Ahh okay got it

Cuz i had an alt for playing with a friend wasn’t sure if i had to grind on it

[west tundra]

only thing that might require integration is subwoofer

[uneven hill]

good question

let me test it

fuck theres an update on bnet

[light violet]

Soon…

[tawdry pawn]

High elo ranked has been dead for like 3 months now

Cos of fresh accounts

You’ll get a master 3 guy on a fresh account hitting gm2

[long yoke]

Lok

[uneven hill]

we'll see with the new 50 win thing

if it is actually fixed ill start playing ow again

lowk

[tawdry pawn]

Same

Reverse smurfing is crazy lmao

[uneven hill]

ill make a fresh account and play 50 games then see if the account is gonna get gm3 or higher

[tawdry pawn]

Lower rank players smurfing in high ranks

[long yoke]

Why did they renove the master5 cap again

[light anchor]

I tried this but it keeps putting me in champ4

[tawdry pawn]

Lots of people coming back to ow and blizz probably thinking ruining higher elo is less harmful to profit than lower elo

[long yoke]

Heartbreaking

[light anchor]

Which is annoying cause im stuck trying to hit gm1

Winning too many games

[tawdry pawn]

Higher elo players are less likely to quit ow I think

[leaden pier]

what

[tawdry pawn]

They need to cap fresh accounts to master 5

[leaden pier]

true

ranked is cooked anyways

ring 3 ac in the 26

[fervent pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-true-eyes-dog-true-meme-dog-eyes-meme-gif-669697498800876669

[heady kettle]

amen

[unreal tide]

why they ever removed that damn cap

[fervent pawn]

bc they need everyone making alts to boost player count

[long yoke]

making alts doesnt even boost the ccu

if anything it makes more people quit which reduces it

[fervent pawn]

the only ppl upset abt freshies are like the top 5% of ranked players

theyre too mentally ill to quit

its a perfect plan...

[long yoke]

truke

[west niche]

ur such a lovely guy and understand ur hero so well, i hope to be a fraction of you at all

also ty for answering all my questions on stream btw

[tawdry pawn]

You hit champ on 60 fps?

[twilit cave]

can emre pistol heal him when shooting a shield or barrier?

[tawdry pawn]

Nah

[twilit cave]

what abt balls one

[tawdry pawn]

It works like reapers life steal

You have to do dmg to someone’s hp

[twilit cave]

ohh ok

[ornate epoch]

call me thriller the way i can thrill you more than any ghoul would eva dare try 🗣️🗣️🗣️

https://tenor.com/view/basketball-meme-gif-5051779013126861108

[frail flint]

Tracer for a huge cake in fortnite holy how am I supposed to play with no hands

[pale plover]

people.play fortnite?

[frail flint]

Kids do

[oak hornet]

as tank, i feel like i play way better when i have a team who doesn't need me to play directly in front of them. Is this just me?

[mossy star]

100%

[oak hornet]

100% just me, or 100% agree with?

[mossy star]

Hard to play shield on hazard lmao

No i agree

[oak hornet]

most definitely lol

[mossy star]

I had a kiri earlier in stadium tell me to stop diving on hazard

[bright shale]

depends what tank but yeah usually

[mossy star]

I was like pardon me

[bright shale]

like if ur team cant play around a dive tank it makes playing dive really annoying

[mossy star]

Also true af

[bright shale]

playing winston and ur ana just doesnt even try to keep los

[mossy star]

Playing haz and my tracer watches me get double teamed

[polar yew]

Good

[mossy star]

Haz so fun idc what my team doin

Long as they not dyin

[bright shale]

im ass at haz

i can't figure hin out

im way better w winston

[mossy star]

Haz is a bit complicated with his short leap and wall

[whole elm]

Hi guys

[mossy star]

But using him well and rolling a team is top tier satisfaction

[frail flint]

Doom gotta be deleted bro as a doom main sometimes this guy's hp just pmo

[pliant niche]

Ugh, I have work :c

So no more Overwatch until I get back 😄

[stoic kayak]

offtopic fact but mercy serenity power up actually still heal you while you're damage boosting 😭

[bright shale]

he's like ball hes so much more annoying when ur solo q

[tawdry pawn]

Doom main betrayed doom mains?

[frail flint]

I play tanks in a rotation and map wise my rotation consisting of jq mauga hog doom and ball

[floral wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/oye-cat-enough-stop-petting-gif-8639785326678511628

[violet crow]

wtf is a serenity power up

[oak hornet]

that's honestly so real

[frail flint]

Solo cage cat as mauga and slowly burning it to death is lwk therapy

[oak hornet]

probably why i don't like playing dive tanks

or "initiators"

[frail flint]

Yeah ppl in champ-masters exist who thinks dive tanks arent real tanks just cuz they can't play around them

[fathom ingot]

ngl i think mauga is really good rn

[brave void]

is he

[bright shale]

not crazy to say that tbh

[frail flint]

Certainly love his major perk that gives all the overhealth

[oak hornet]

tank just feels so trash to play cuz of the people you play with. Always because of you, but rarely thanks to you fr

[mossy star]

Leap in wrong or misplaced wall instadeath

[floral wyvern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1429153658460962917/1471267786025074760/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker.gif

[frail flint]

When you do good no one will see it but when you do bad everyone will see it and even if you do good and lose and your tm8 do bad they'll blame you

Sad life to live

[fathom ingot]

what the fuck

[floral wyvern]

what link is this?

[fathom ingot]

didnt knew that

[brave void]

leaping in wrong applies to all dives as for the wall its not that hard to learn jow to use

[fathom ingot]

just google

ow stats

you'll find it

official site so its reliable

[light violet]

https://overwatch.blizzard.com/rates

[brave void]

its like Winston players thinking its better to leap in to engage rather than leaping out to disengage

[bright shale]

how on earth is jq up there

[oak hornet]

exactly, had to take a break from playing tank. It hurts how my JQ is so bad now

[violet crow]

cause she was buffed

mauga wasn't changed at all but his wr went up

[bright shale]

yeah the buff wasnt that crazy though

tbf wr doesnt always reflect how good a char is

[brave void]

gets better by proxy when charactsrs are nerfed

[clever coral]

the stats are not good rn

especially gm/champ

cause patch just came out

[frail flint]

It's especially hard playing dive tanks you'll get countered the exact moment you kill someone and you do bad you're a public dumpster to get humiliated

[sweet finch]

Yeah

[fathom ingot]

other tanks became shit

instead of mauga getting buffed

[violet crow]

idk maybe it reached the threshold where the healing is no longer just survivable but good

[brave void]

like for instance the kiriko nerf helps mauga since now whenever they cleanse his burn they arent healing more

[bright shale]

its better but like

[fathom ingot]

shes still garbage

[bright shale]

she's not that good

[oak hornet]

kill one person and it's immediately ana zen bastion

[fathom ingot]

mega f tier to f tier

[bright shale]

she's still rlly bad compared to zar dva

[brave void]

shes stull rlly bad compared to the best tanks itg

[fathom ingot]

jq when anti heal or any cc or any brawler fights her

[frail flint]

Get a team kill zen/ana mizuki Mei Cass hog

[high quail]

https://x.com/bigwillis332/status/2055105747013292146?s=46

Willis (@BigWillis332)

New overwatch update is fire

X · May 15, 2026, 1:59 AM

[bright shale]

ty for rewording my sentence

[brave void]

why is the bob there

[mossy star]

Not meta=Ass around here

[bright shale]

she gets bent over by zar

[fathom ingot]

ashe ulted

[violet crow]

just a fun fact her wound healing isn't affected by global healing reduction passive

[brave void]

aha

i get it

[violet crow]

so it might be bigger than you think

[high quail]

Deadass lost two games because we had a JQ try to play into a Roadhog 🫩

[fathom ingot]

also by mauga,dva,orisa

[clever coral]

that's what..

[bright shale]

yh but i think zar is her worst by far

[mossy star]

I did this earlier and won. Skill matchup

[oak hornet]

once played into an ana zen mei zarya. Genuinely felt like hell trying to figure out how to beat them

[bright shale]

she has like nothing she can do vs a good zar

[fathom ingot]

shes good as long as they dont have brawler ana any crowd control and kiriko

or strong poke

[bright shale]

jq is playable into hog

[fathom ingot]

with open map

[bright shale]

if she knives him while he vapes and he gets pulled without vape he explodes

[high quail]

That’s because you’re probably not bad at JQ

[fathom ingot]

oh wow then she'll be usable in whole 2 matches out of around 2 million

[fathom ingot]

and zarya will be better anyways

[mossy star]

Yeah it’s more of a skill matchup like cass-tracer

[brave void]

say ong

[high quail]

You think most JQ are thinking like that? Not in my rank

[brave void]

did u see that tiktok too

[mossy star]

Lmao yes

[brave void]

😂

[frail flint]

Bro thank god major perk on ball and doom exist cuz every other dive has some anti cc option but ball and doom who don't have none

And one miss dive as doom and you're already dead

[bright shale]

i mean yeah that's thejr drawback

[fathom ingot]

they have best mobility instead

[outer gate]

yeah doom needs his perk

[mossy star]

Haz and monkey have this same issue

[outer gate]

but doom on his own is flawed

[brave void]

I dont encountr this issue much as hazard

[frail flint]

Monkey has shield hazard has wall

[outer gate]

“look at me charge me and get demolished”

[brave void]

as with Winston its honestly an easy fix

[fathom ingot]

haz,doom has short ttk

[brave void]

dont use jump pack to dive

[fathom ingot]

winton idk

[mossy star]

Doom has 2 abilities

[fathom ingot]

this guy sucks

[mossy star]

To get out with

[fathom ingot]

im winton genji main

winton can uhh

[bright shale]

haz has way less mobility winston isn't as lethal

[fathom ingot]

kinda poke with m2

[high quail]

Yeah I don’t swap to Cass to go against a tracer because I’m a fraudulent Cass. But I can punish her all day as Torb

[west niche]

man idk how to feel if this is sarcasm or larp 😭 but thank you

[fathom ingot]

while doing buildup jumps

also provide bubble to fdps

is cool

[fathom ingot]

or block healing

but thats it winton sucks rn

[brave void]

still good for solo queue

[frail flint]

I mean once you get cc'd none of them actually matter

[bright shale]

he still my goat

[fathom ingot]

he cant make solo kills

if your backline sucks you cant get any help

[mossy star]

Yeah but Same with most dive tanks if not all

[brave void]

doomfist when the enemy team has mizuki 💀

[clever coral]

it's serious dude lol u know everyone who knows u says u have good knowledge cause it's true

[fathom ingot]

only way is dribbling ig

[high quail]

Winton is fine

[frail flint]

Doomfist is a jester rn saying this as a doom main

He's ass

[mossy star]

When the enemy supports have escape cooldowns ready

[oak hornet]

I really want to learn dive tanks in OW, but my engage timings feel vastly different compared to when i play a brawl tank or sigma

[brave void]

wasnt he only good for likr

[bright shale]

he's not that bad

[brave void]

1 month

[mossy star]

He just has crazy high skill expression

[fathom ingot]

or enemy supp can fly/use heights

[brave void]

the last I remember doomfist being good was not long after ow2 release

[frail flint]

Doom really needs an HP change bro overhealth just doesn't suffice most the time

[west niche]

winston just has longer staging and downtime cuz of bubble cd + hes not as lethal compared to other dive tanks with higher burst

[mossy star]

In gm Ive got my ass beat by a doom

[high quail]

Winston one tricking has always been a pretty bad idea

[bright shale]

there r worse ideas

like otping jq

i would know

[fathom ingot]

nah he is usable in almost any maps atleast

and against any comps

tho its hard against smth like brawl or rush comps

[mossy star]

Winston always been solid

[fathom ingot]

during ow2

[frail flint]

Doom genuinely might need some armor atleast like this guy's hp is so buns

[tawdry pawn]

What bastion reaper mauga

[mossy star]

That’s just ass for most tanks lmao

[fathom ingot]

you play poking with m2 mainly and get their supp

[tawdry pawn]

True icl

[tawdry pawn]

😭

[fathom ingot]

their mobility sucks so

[tawdry pawn]

Sniper Winton

[fathom ingot]

you can force them to come to point or smt

[hot gazelle]

If I were to pick up learning another support what would be best mizuki illari or kiri?

[bright shale]

kiri

[fathom ingot]

and you can get high ground or wtv

[mossy star]

Bap

[frail flint]

Kiri

[high quail]

His m2 is genuinely an important part of his kit these days

[west niche]

he dosent need a hp change cuz ur not meant to overstay ur dives anyway cuz hes an in and out hero, and a hero needs to have a weaknesses

hes fine and still played frequently every elo, maybe slam buff or hand cannon tighter spread

[fathom ingot]

tho it wont be easy yeah

[west niche]

doom is a glass cannon

[bright shale]

playing him without it feels so wrong

[west niche]

i want him to stay that way

[fathom ingot]

your bubble disappears below a sec

[violet crow]

bad time to learn illari

[frail flint]

One miss punch and you're dead

Slam in you're dead

[violet crow]

girl was nerfed 2 patches in a row

[fathom ingot]

still pretty solid

[hot gazelle]

Rip

[fathom ingot]

aiming with her is just bit harder now

[west niche]

yeah ur fault

[bright shale]

yh

[violet crow]

they made her heal burst shorter for m2 and has same m1 projectile size as the rest of the hitscans now

[fathom ingot]

same with aversge hitscan

[high quail]

Yeah ngl pre m2 Winston is kinda miserable because what are you supposed to do pre fight? Just sit there?

[bright shale]

that's his whole appeal

[fathom ingot]

not even that hard

[bright shale]

that's he's high risk high reward

[west niche]

missing ability gets u punished

shocking

plus u have slam and block

to bail u out

[frail flint]

Usually you slam to engage rather than punch but yah

[tawdry pawn]

she hates no alt fire Winton

[brave island]

Dive tanks are fun, it’s just their approach changes a lot in 5v5 since you do need to brawl or ‘shield’ on occasion

[tawdry pawn]

😭

Always mentions it

[bright shale]

no alt fire winston on eich is just

[frail flint]

Bro I played 6v6 ball and doom are nothing but clowns shit HP when there's 6 ppl

[fathom ingot]

except dva cuz shes even strong in brawls

[west niche]

so u commit both ur mobility cds and missed 1 of them

u deserve to die

[bright shale]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-qyzzle-choke-gif-14246446414015866673

[west niche]

idk what to say

[frail flint]

Slam for soft engage and both for hard engage or slam block and build punch for extreme lwk

[mossy star]

6v6 just go double dive and ruin the experience for the other team

[frail flint]

Mauga Mei Cass ana mizuki hog

[west niche]

yeah and u whiff ur hard engage u deserve to die

[brave island]

But 6v6 ain’t a real mode so that example is meaningless

[west niche]

if u slam in and die

u stage more

[bright shale]

if winston whiffs his engage he also explodes

[mossy star]

I’ve never seen anyone run mauga hog in ranked 6v6

[west niche]

like idk why doom ppl have this bias

💔

yes u fuck up ur engage yes u deserve to die

yes u dont track cd u deserve to die

[frail flint]

I've seen ppl run hog mauga zen bastion you get hooked you ain't surviving

[bright shale]

not me though aha

[frail flint]

Them 4 were together

[west niche]

yes u dive to 4 u deserve to die

yes u dont stage u deserve to die

[kind bluff]

What would you pick for a one trick in solo rank push between Soj Emre and S76?

[bright shale]

when i figured this out winston became so much more enjoyable

[frail flint]

S76

[west niche]

its pretty simple man doom dosent get a free card

[mossy star]

Ana just counters that whole lineup. Go Orisa at that point

[west niche]

it dosent matter if ur tank is harder

[cold helm]

emre

[kind bluff]

Isnt Soj admin server for all maps but s76 only in some specific ones?

[cold helm]

soj is harder

and more inconsistent than emre

[kind bluff]

more pressure

[cold helm]

u have perma uptime

[mossy star]

76 is solid rn

[frail flint]

Ana was banned and my tm8 was hogging orisa

[cold helm]

insane burst w nades hard to dive w pistol very good ult

[fathom ingot]

soj isnt server admin

[kind bluff]

the most shit on hero after junkrat

[fathom ingot]

she can just make kills with railgun

[frail flint]

And my team decided to ban Kiri too

[cold helm]

76 is op on flashpoint and push

[fathom ingot]

actual server admins are like

[mossy star]

Unjustified hate Hes surprisingly good rn

[fathom ingot]

dva

[cold helm]

soj is server admin

on hs

emre is js more consistent

and js takes less

[crystal monolith]

Soj is farm tank take an off angle and 1 tap a squishy

[cold helm]

most server admin dps is tra tho

[kind bluff]

a LOT, I mean like A LOT of people are claiming Soj and Emre does his job much better and co

[west niche]

i mean trial and error

[cold helm]

emre saw 10x more play than soj in pro

[frail flint]

Soldier is better for solo que tho he has good hp you don't have to rely on support for heals like the other 2

And better mobility

[bright shale]

i had to feed like 7 tank games to figure out sometimes u just sit on ur ass and hit m2

[mossy valve]

Anyone know when owcs streams start

[open pier]

hi chuds

[cold helm]

soj has better burst mobility

[kind bluff]

Good idea to pick Emre for group and S76 for solo then

[bright shale]

im not a chud.

[west niche]

majority of dive is just staging and 5% actually dive

[cold helm]

soldier js better at flanking

[bright shale]

truth nuke

[brave island]

Yeah and Doomfist sometimes you shoot autos and punchbot

[frail flint]

In terms of solo que tho cuz soj has 225

[open pier]

u are

[mossy star]

Problem is you can’t just put a bum on 76 and expect them to cook most soldier mains have ass positioning or the try to flank all game and leave the team alone

[fathom ingot]

u play ow

[bright shale]

😢

[open pier]

😅

[west niche]

too many dive players just have adhd and hard engage in when enemies all cds

[chrome lotus]

so do we genuinely not get anything else for the anniversary event

[west niche]

then die

[kind bluff]

Well for the ass positionning if your team looses al team fights youre cooked tho

[west niche]

GUHHH WHY THEY COUNTER MEEEE

[bright shale]

doom players when using all 3 cooldowns on the max hp full abilities orisa gets them killed

[mossy valve]

I mean China players do

[heady kettle]

Six seventeen

[kind bluff]

S76 is meant to harrass squishes on the team fights, but if the ennemy team ragdolls your team, youre dead for

[frail flint]

Idk bro I'm happy for the Lucio skin

[tawdry pawn]

me

[chrome lotus]

netease stays peak

[hot gazelle]

We get to suffer and watch the chinese server get all the fun stuff

[brave island]

If your team sucks at the prefight and dies when you try to gather information as a dive, then I guess you… look for when the mid fight starts better?

[frail flint]

Why not just run with sprint

[mossy star]

His whole thing is just consistent damage to force a reposition or a mistake. He works surprisingly well rn. I use him sometimes in gm with no issue

[chrome lotus]

time to see which game has a more disappointing 10th anniversary ow or dbd

[mossy star]

Cause it’s not outrunning nobody

[kind bluff]

Some maps make it difficult to do proper rotation tho

[violet crow]

there was a blackout advisory the past few days and i haven't played overwatch because of it

[bright shale]

unfortunately ow takes this one

dbd is probably gonna add jason or something

[kind bluff]

Good to hear, finally a respect soldier

[violet crow]

the blackout just never arrives lmao so i'm here just sitting on my ass waiting

[chrome lotus]

i just want mythic shards atleast😔

[kind bluff]

God forbids me to play Sierra anyway

[fathom ingot]

soldier is just tracer with less burst mobility and longer range

[kind bluff]

Im not toucing her with a 10ft pole

[terse quartz]

Came in here to say that once doom unlocks matrix the hero takes 0 skill

[cold helm]

shes fun

[chrome lotus]

why

[bright shale]

Truth Supernova

[kind bluff]

He needs a jetpack, then S++ tier

[floral wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/spearhyunho-gif-13383730740069411006

[bright shale]

wise klombus wisdom

[terse quartz]

Also I love Akvza

[brave island]

That’s how I play him, but since he lacks her tools I just maneuver closer to my team more often

[fathom ingot]

what if we give bastion jetpack instead

he'll be S++ tier

oh he is

[cold helm]

https://tenor.com/view/nanami-aoyama-нанами-аояма-нанами-аояма-nanami-gif-646161818462015465

[frail flint]

So taking that to account dva should take 0 skill too

[terse quartz]

lol

[kind bluff]

Cuz she is perma banned under Master, so might as well no one trick her, besides Idk, the more we go on the more people figurued how to deal wit hher

[floral wyvern]

Ouuuu shit 👀

[polar heath]

barely takes any tbf

[terse quartz]

Dva is 10000000000x harder than doomfist

[polar heath]

one of the easiest tanks

[chrome lotus]

what if we give bastion his shield back

[fathom ingot]

hell nah

doom is much harder

[kind bluff]

Imagine one trick Sierra and be benched for half your games "Ohh what am i gonna play then"

[frail flint]

But you said matrix makes doom 0 skill and DVA has 3 seconds of matrix?

[bright shale]

dva is easy peasy yeah

[mossy star]

I’ve mained him since day 1 ow1 and I’ll be the first to tell you if you’re a bum and you lock 76 it’s genuinely a throw pick

[chrome lotus]

oh yeah i played her in qp only

[terse quartz]

Get quaked on manipulated all of you

[fathom ingot]

sierra isnt even banned often

[chrome lotus]

shes pretty fun

[cold helm]

6v6 thanos

[bright shale]

dva is literally thanos she's not that hard

[terse quartz]

Both are braindead dva is way harder overall

[kind bluff]

If youre a bum with Soj, Ashe, cass, even reaper its like worst than a throw, it's a troll

[cold helm]

isn't zbra still the best doom

[frail flint]

But dva has 3 seconds of matrix

[cold helm]

macro wise

[bright shale]

prob

[terse quartz]

Prob

[bright shale]

cartifan probably up there as well

[frail flint]

How can DVA be harder when doom has 1 second of matrix

[fathom ingot]

i heard pro players doom is just on whole another level

[gusty folio]

donghak > all

[kind bluff]

I think its far far far worse to have a bum on Soj than 76

[polar heath]

i think cartifan is better nowadays

[cold helm]

i mean

[frail flint]

Crbs494 up there too lwk

[cold helm]

d0nghak

and guxue

[bright shale]

true nuke

[mossy star]

I can’t play her personally after so much time on soldier her projectiles just melt my brain

[cold helm]

are better than carti and zbra

[polar heath]

idk tho i dont watch na players and definitely not doom players

[kind bluff]

49% is insane

[terse quartz]

Donghak is the best at losing

Tbf

[unreal tide]

im so swingy with soj its insane

[mossy star]

I play her in stadium tho

[cold helm]

his backline is geniunely ass

[fathom ingot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/233904315247362048/1494730848887378010/1776434206.webp

[bright shale]

same i just see cartifan in pge videos

[gusty folio]

he got bliss in his backline

[terse quartz]

Always everyone else but him

[kind bluff]

Idk man i think being a bum on OW overall makes you a throw, 76 is no exception and not that punitive

[terse quartz]

#nooticing

[bright shale]

what team does cartifan play for again

[unreal tide]

everyone been there tbh

[fathom ingot]

so who was problem in 2023 atlanta

[kind bluff]

Legit you can do things as 76 if youre bad, as Soj you cant do anything at all

[cold helm]

bliss plays the game js to play it idk if hes even paid

[fathom ingot]

focusing pylon with beat

sure

[cold helm]

he runs it down

[kind bluff]

literally afking

[fathom ingot]

and you even miss 3 shots

😭

[mossy star]

He’s just the tutorial guy and has always been average and takes practice to actually be effective

[kind bluff]

And if your aim is ass, Ashe is a big throw too

[fathom ingot]

play jq in worst possible map+meta for her

[brave island]

Donghak gets trolled on ranked ngl

[bright shale]

chills

[fathom ingot]

did ts in pro play 🥀 🥀

[kind bluff]

He survives and has high uptime, i think even Emre would be more punitive because he can die much more often

Of all the hitscans, I think he is the least punitive

[cold helm]

objective secured pylon down

[bright shale]

my goat viol2t mogs

[fathom ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/viol2t-ajax-gif-10079371243123717088

[cold helm]

a peasant like u wouldn't understand the big d0ng's play

[fathom ingot]

insane play 🔥 🔥

[kind bluff]

And I doubt you need overly high IQ to push s76 with, unless you have carpial issue and parkinson disease

[clever coral]

his dong is hacking...

[fathom ingot]

truth nuke

[terse quartz]

I’ll never forgive Dongdizzy on Atalanta

[cold helm]

not even his fault

lip said it

team js was shit mental chiyo was evil

[mossy star]

Always a decent pick but I don’t get to play him much lately cause this meta I been running cass a lot

[terse quartz]

Chiyo is evil indeed

I will love lip forever

[cold helm]

thats why he didn't qual

cr throws vs varrel to eliminate falcons

stalk3r = d0nghak avenger

revenger

[kind bluff]

CLose quarter king but damn his ass mobility

[autumn pier]

💔

[terse quartz]

Stalk3r my goat

[kind bluff]

might as well pick reaper over cass no?

[mossy star]

Literally Roll to reload then die

[fathom ingot]

dva soldier sym lucio kiri 😭

[cold helm]

stalk3r kill 3 lose fight challenge

[terse quartz]

Lowk I think proud is better than quartz

[fathom ingot]

they NEVER played sym this round

[terse quartz]

Hot take though

[west niche]

hello mr chair wheres mrs table

[cold helm]

https://tenor.com/view/10damn-years-randy-quaid-happy-gif-14433243

[fathom ingot]

quartz lwk overrated asf except freja

[cold helm]

freja

?

[mossy star]

Cass is great at protecting himself or supports from divers

[fathom ingot]

hes insane on freja ngl

[west niche]

i thought big fist means i can brawl and oneshot everyone

[terse quartz]

? 😭

[cold helm]

freja?

are we watching

the same quartz

[clever coral]

single diver yes but multiple he folds faster than every other hs

[fathom ingot]

did we not see him in 25 grand final

[cold helm]

best frejas are legit ade tr33 proud

[fathom ingot]

playing freja

[cold helm]

he was

vs lbbd7

bro

quartz vs his weaker alter ego

tm vs weaker tm

[mossy star]

The one dps rarely ever gets double dived. Even then I’m taking 1 with me

[fathom ingot]

he was lwk gapping everyone

with freja

during grand final

[cold helm]

he legit played

like 1 game

on freja

[kind bluff]

It's good to see some insights on S76, cuz gonna pick him for solo queue, so I might aswell start to be good at. I sitll struggle with aim and positionning especially when we loose the TF. I dont know all maps very well yet

[cold helm]

in a freja meta he really wasn't doing a lot

[clever coral]

rarely double dived how

[cold helm]

tr33 proud and ade were js machines on the hero

[terse quartz]

Need a team with Dongdizzy proud proper/stalk3r simple and any human MS

[cold helm]

top 1 team or bottom tier team

[clever coral]

it's just dive tank+1 fdps followup that's like bare minimum

[fathom ingot]

proud is top tier hitscan rn

[mossy star]

If you double diving a cass with supports alive you need to watch some YouTube tutorials

[fathom ingot]

tho

[sick torrent]

hi chuds

[clever coral]

?

[cold helm]

cass is piss easy to dive

[rotund lodge]

Any good tank/ doomfist players wanna take a look and review my games https://discord.com/channels/94882524378968064/1504761218164854895

[cold helm]

big hitbox 1 no mobility shit tool vs multiple divers

[clever coral]

r u calling me bad at the game LOL

[cold helm]

yk gray is fuming w anger cuz he capitalized LOL and we ain't talking about league of legends

[terse quartz]

Ye ur champion ass 3

[terse quartz]

LOL

[clever coral]

it's just weird to say that double dives are rare but maybe it's server diff

[fathom ingot]

do we agree cat bastion meta has to go

[clever coral]

solo queueing hitscan on korea changes u bro

[fathom ingot]

or like

[clever coral]

i have winston's hand imprinted in my rectum

[fathom ingot]

they gotta be map dependent atleast

[kind bluff]

I initially thought dive meant all hero who literally jump on you and murder you lol

[terse quartz]

Ppl on Korea can actually dive

[plucky lodge]

the 2 humble flashbangs in his pocket:

[cold helm]

thats legit what dive is

[terse quartz]

Other regions can’t at all

[cold helm]

they don't do shit

vs 2 divers

[kind bluff]

Ye but literally thought like jumping like doomfist or winston

and crush you with their ass

[plucky lodge]

thats why he has 2

[cold helm]

he has 1

[mossy star]

His carry potential is surprisingly high

[clever coral]

u arguing with a ragebaiter akvza

[fathom ingot]

2 are u meaning

his minor perk

[terse quartz]

Eu players should not be talking about dive or counter dive

[fathom ingot]

😭 😭

[terse quartz]

Icl

[cold helm]

his minor perk = throwing 2 flashbangs in front of him

[terse quartz]

Stick to brawl comps

[cold helm]

still shit vs 2 divers

[fathom ingot]

at once*

[cold helm]

i mean

thats why i said throwing 2

pal

[fathom ingot]

its literally same with 1 flashbang

except you do some more dmg

[cold helm]

its actually 2 lesser dmg normal flashbangs

[rotund lodge]

2 dps jumping 1 doesn’t really happen that much when full team is alive or is it just me

[cold helm]

that combined do more dmg

[cold helm]

its js u

[west niche]

akvza how many times have u debated ts

ur like sisyphus

😭

[cold helm]

if the enemy cass is js running my team

im js diving him

[west niche]

nevwr ending battle

[cold helm]

remove strong link = win fight type shit

[fathom ingot]

what if you

get baited by cass

whole team uses cd to kill him

no more cd

[twin wing]

the things that come out of 11 year olds mouths is wild

[fathom ingot]

positions ruined

[cold helm]

are we diving mauga

?

[heady kettle]

PGE STRATS

[twin wing]

so nasty to one another

[cold helm]

cds in this game js ain't that long

[fathom ingot]

dva or whatever brawler tank/comp

[rotund lodge]

fair

[cold helm]

dva js

eviscerates cass

[rotund lodge]

I play doomfist ion really focus on what’s happening to the dps’s

[fathom ingot]

no i mean dva is cass's team

[cold helm]

then she js gives space

to peel for him

type shit

[crystal socket]

Most doomfists don’t lol

[fathom ingot]

entire enemy team or atleast 2

[brave void]

overwatch is glorified splatoon

[fathom ingot]

dived to kill cass

[brave void]

its just a fight for who controls more of the map

[cold helm]

if the entire team peels for cass

3 others can js shoot them

u still leave space

[plucky lodge]

not ur job

[mossy star]

Dva got a slap on the wrist this patch

[fathom ingot]

also 2 focusing him isnt enough if hes getting cared properly

[cold helm]

it is

is dva tra

are on him

he dies

[fathom ingot]

js watch cr vs t1 last year

[mossy star]

I’m 1 tapping the tracer

[fathom ingot]

t1 full dives with like

haz venture tracer

[mossy star]

Dva might get me

[fathom ingot]

he survives 1 turn

divers die

[cold helm]

its t1

[fathom ingot]

or even if he dies

[fathom ingot]

hmm

fair enough

theyre t1

[frail flint]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1101416388813410376/1504840024213159966/image.png?ex=6a0872fc&is=6a07217c&hm=0dfeacf6ec72750d0b152583be4891cd58a17ee6898ebf54d7f71899cca39b99&

[cold helm]

quartz doesn't play

[frail flint]

lovely game

[clever coral]

if the tra is a noob maybe

[cold helm]

cass in dive himself

[mossy star]

Skill matchup

[cold helm]

he goes soj

[kind bluff]

Moana OP

[cold helm]

tra has a higher ceilling

than cass

[west niche]

good doomfists are able to hold frontline and peel when convinient but no one will agree to this despite good doom players actively doing this

[cold helm]

she has more tools to outplay

[frail flint]

he aint tat broken compared to launch

[kind bluff]

I like him

but.... dva is just built different

even rein

[mossy star]

Orisa ruins the fun for him

[fathom ingot]

if whole team is dive vs brawl

cass is better

[crystal socket]

Doomfists who don’t pay attention to dps also don’t think they need heals so that’s a them problem 🤷‍♀️

[cold helm]

who plays brawl

[bleak fiber]

yo- this is lowk embarrassing, but does anyone know how to just simply be better my ass has been stuck being garb forever in silver 5..

[fathom ingot]

tm

[bleak fiber]

and it ain't the hours or practice.. cuz Ive been doin ts

[cold helm]

they play sym

[mossy star]

I’m gm dps right now and tracer doesn’t ever give me issues on cass

[cold helm]

w cass

cuz she js insta repositions him

[west niche]

doom dont rlly need heals unless he hard engages

he comes back if he wants heals

[rotund lodge]

Can someone please check out my doom games I don’t know how to Improve anymore, I fixed everything I noticed https://discord.com/channels/94882524378968064/1504761218164854895

[west niche]

unless ur doom is npc

[clever coral]

yea cause gm tracers r not good

[cold helm]

doesn't include me

[crystal socket]

Quick question what’s your aimbot settings at

[west niche]

doom players forget their cd cycle is short

[mossy star]

Didn’t realize we had an owcs pro in our presence 🫡

[mossy star]

Non-existent

[crystal socket]

The good ones come back for heals but they also pay attention to the rest of the teams position and health

[cold helm]

hes champ

[clever coral]

im c3 i think i can say that

[mossy star]

Not even that crazy

[cold helm]

it is compared to gm

skill diff is big

[mossy star]

My lobbies are always gm- champ

Every game at least 2 champ players

[cold helm]

what c4-c5s?

[rotund lodge]

Yo someone PLEASE review my doom games

I’m stuck in the same rank

[cold helm]

theres a diff between c5 - c2 too

[twin wing]

:p