overwatch-serious

[pallid oriole]

hru i havent seen u in ages

[weary badge]

they nerfed kiri lucio dva so they had to make it the final patch ever

[crisp basalt]

What are we supposed to do 😭
Act like civil people and have real serious discussions about the game??

[terse fjord]

and plus like 50% of mercy mains are racist

[weary badge]

hi haru

[terse fjord]

conservative estimate

[eager drift]

fan base that's never happy ir satisfied

[pallid oriole]

HI DREW

[eager drift]

blah blah blah

[livid dawn]

they nerfed kiri?

[brave void]

yeah

no bonus heal on cleanse

[weary badge]

not significantly

[summer cairn]

Yea

[long yoke]

Barely

[terse fjord]

giga nerfed Lucio

[swift narwhal]

icl i get why they dont want to nerf her TOO hard

[long yoke]

Lost 30 heal on cleanse

[weary badge]

but it’s there

[long yoke]

Nothing else

[livid dawn]

oof

[swift narwhal]

dva being mid is good for the game, dva really shouldnt be f tier

[livid dawn]

how badly 🥹

[long yoke]

Lucio shot dead in an alleyway and kiri goes from S+ to S+ after another patch

W

[swift narwhal]

dva ideally should be mid cuz shes flexible enough to work in any game

[junior phoenix]

I'm not whining , I don't ever play her. im just saying she virtually doesn't do anything, and it's contradictory hard to make a hero like that competitive at high elo.

[eager drift]

buff rein

[summer cairn]

They should give zarya 5 bubbles and wings

[swift narwhal]

eh shes not s+

[crisp basalt]

I just hope they don't kill the dive tanks

[weary badge]

pretty big ult nerf and then a small self heal nerf

[swift narwhal]

shes S tier but not s+ atm

[long yoke]

Fair enough I guess

[swift narwhal]

cuz the meta isnt fit for kiri

[eager drift]

doom will never die

[long yoke]

Shes still been meta since launch though lmao

[eager drift]

people like doom too much

[swift narwhal]

the weirder part is, no catsion?

[crisp basalt]

😭

[swift narwhal]

like

no changes

[livid dawn]

oof 💔

[long yoke]

Idk why they didnt put tether on a cd ngl

Doesnt affect normal play at all

[crisp basalt]

Probably coz owcs is so close

[long yoke]

But fixes pro play

[weary badge]

I mean it’s been meta for like 3 weeks and cat was considered ass before then

[brave void]

keep hazard in S.

[swift narwhal]

it actually makes it more complicated

[long yoke]

From being castion slop every round

[weary badge]

idt they put in balance changes super close to the patch

[swift narwhal]

that neither bastion nor cat were changed

[crisp basalt]

Cat feels terrible in normal play

[swift narwhal]

and the mizuki change, idk i actually dont like

[crisp basalt]

Give her dmg back haha

[swift narwhal]

i liked his ult being a brawl bubble you force your enemies into

[weary badge]

unless it significantly affects ranked

and it doesn’t

[keen panther]

Ur amazing and strong, ur incredible at the game, the Mercy mains are fighting each other to be your pocket, good work King 🤴

[eager drift]

huh

[swift narwhal]

mercy is in a fine spot

[keen panther]

Thats what every Mercy complainer wants to hear deep down

[swift narwhal]

lucio nerfs were, ALOT tho

[gusty folio]

the fuckin freaks im playing against in the arcade mode, they bubbled every single pharah ult

[crisp basalt]

I mean if they walked in, it's kinda just a small lucio heal circle

[brave void]

and then u run into a 6 man roadhog

[swift narwhal]

point is that THAT part couldve been buffed, its supposed to force a brawl atleast that seemed like the design

[weary badge]

I feel like zarya is insane in classic

[gusty folio]

shes so op

[eager drift]

I think it's like overwatch mind control that somehow the game has tricked the minds of 80% of the playerbase that mercy is this super unhealthy being that should be perma deleted

[weary badge]

she kills through zen ult without max charge

idk what charge she needs but it’s not an unreasonable amount

[crisp basalt]

I always thought it should function the way it does

Bubble dance is always peak

[swift narwhal]

same as vendetta and mauga still getting called op

[brave void]

mercy mains dm me NOW

[summer cairn]

Nah just delete her mains

Like

[eager drift]

vendetta and op

lol

[summer cairn]

Most insufferable people on earth

[weary badge]

hi stella

[eager drift]

same people who basically fund tye game btw

[heady kettle]

play overwatch or kill oliver guys what do i do

[swift narwhal]

shes still third most banned hero in the game across all ranks together

[brave void]

vendetta better be buffed before I buy this personal trainer skin.

[weary badge]

both

[swift narwhal]

and still gets called op

[heady kettle]

wrong

[weary badge]

do ppl really still ban vendetta

thats wild

[heady kettle]

gonna play slime rancher

[brave void]

yes bro

[eager drift]

people are not highly intelligent

[heady kettle]

and minecraft today

[eager drift]

for some reason

[brave void]

I had a game where my team banned mauga and vendetta

and im just getting pissed off

cause like

[swift narwhal]

the real issues lay in that 1 her mains are insufferable, tho the genji and rein mains get less hate for some reason

[brave void]

what are u guys doing

[summer cairn]

I'll let you kill me after we get an evangelion collab

[heady kettle]

ill see what i can do

[swift narwhal]

look at the stats

[brave void]

u dont notice it as much with them

[summer cairn]

Understood

[weary badge]

ow tmrw or should I soloq

[heady kettle]

whens tomorrow

[swift narwhal]

this is across ALL ranks

bans

[weary badge]

tmrw as in like around 16 hours from now

[swift narwhal]

so yes the majority still is banning vend for no reason

[heady kettle]

maybe maybe not

[weary badge]

alr

[heady kettle]

I was planning on playing ow

today

[keen panther]

We all know the real reason Mercy mains get so much more hate but ppl will never admit to it and come up with all sorts of fake game analysis explanations

[heady kettle]

but

[brave void]

nostalgia ban

[heady kettle]

my game is once again taking 42 years to download

[swift narwhal]

hence why the for some reason is done like that

[weary badge]

unfortunate

[keen panther]

Thank u 🙏 ur absolutely right

[swift narwhal]

its a mix of genji and rein being traditionally cool and the types who mainly play them compared to mercy

[radiant igloo]

There’s just no way they seriously gave us this slop for 10th anniversary, mind boggling tbh

[brave void]

those epic skins are dookie

[crisp basalt]

The genji skin looks cool af

[summer cairn]

Give bap mains skins and they carry the game too

[weary badge]

im straight up mind moggling

[queen grail]

why do devs think mercys mobility is a problem but not her damage boost?

[radiant igloo]

Genuinely below rare tier

[terse fjord]

cause the devs don’t play the game

[summer cairn]

He looks like Kamen rider w

[swift narwhal]

mobility is more clearly annoying while boost is more indirectly

[crisp basalt]

😭
Another one wanting to remove dmg boost

[terse fjord]

damage boost is the only reason to pick mercy lol just damage boost ur hitscan

so they win every duel

[crisp basalt]

What do you wanna replace it with to give her some utility

[swift narwhal]

seeing someone WHOOSH WHOOSH WHOOSH is easier to point at than something indirect

[queen grail]

my complaint is that devs want to change everything in her kit EXCEPT damage boost

[terse fjord]

literally anything else

[swift narwhal]

eh make it have a meter

[brave void]

because like

the damage boost is her selling point

[crisp basalt]

Yea

[keen panther]

Unpopular opinion i kinda like the anniversary skins 😭 for so long the base skins have no personality so we always look for other franchises and collabs, but now we're seeing heroes as they are, but with anniversary colors

[swift narwhal]

like the damage boost is better but u gotta time it

[terse fjord]

*only point

[queen grail]

it's really selling in her in bronze

[swift narwhal]

i wouldve liked it more if it was half ow1 half ow2 skins

[crystal grail]

Mercy damage boost + zen discord absolutely shreds

[brave void]

the skins arent inherently bad but 10 years of overwatch for purple and gold skins

[crisp basalt]

Yea they look cool af
Idk people just complaining for no reason

[terse fjord]

yeh but then u have mercy zen healing

[queen grail]

they think damage boost is fine but they won't buff her to not be shit because they're afraid so like....?

[keen panther]

Oh yeah that wouldve been great!

[swift narwhal]

mercy has her place in the game

making her too good is risky

[weary badge]

can work with ball ig but theres definitely better backlines for him

[swift narwhal]

as i said id like a meter on boost but make the boost stronger so you have to time it

[crisp basalt]

Just bring moths meta back

[brave void]

lol?

[queen grail]

i think low rank focused heroes is just an actual waste of a character slot, that's why i've been playing less overwatch and more deadlock which respects my competitive mindset more

[keen panther]

The whole theme of the 10th yr is returning to how everything started, not making some bombastic new skin designs and collabs

[swift narwhal]

lowkey wuyang ana is such a stressfull comp even though appearantly its good

[crystal grail]

Idk never had problem with it but might be because I play soldier in our trio

[long yoke]

You cant buff her damage boost without 10 different breakpoints turning her into meta instantly

[brave void]

how do the current skins represent that

[swift narwhal]

as wuyang i CONSTANTLY feel stressed in it keeping people going

[brave void]

genuinely asking

[swift narwhal]

counterpoint, boost is half a second

[long yoke]

So they can only really touch her healing and movement

And they whine too much if you nerf movement

[swift narwhal]

the new skins dont really do that tbh

[keen panther]

Its the skins as OW started, and colored with decennial purple

[queen grail]

if any ability has an extreme chokehold on doing anything with the hero it should not exist in the first place

[weary badge]

she’d need a high enough dmg boost that it would be 10x the problem it is now

[keen panther]

Im interested in hearing what u think shouldve been done to bring us back to OW beginnings hehe

[weary badge]

like cass oneshotting

[crisp basalt]

Remove rein shield, dva matrix, hazard block

[queen grail]

well no i kinda lied, i also swapped to deadlock since overwatch character designs are boring so they can sell more skins

[left mortar]

why didnt doomfist get a real buff

[summer cairn]

My humble opinion is that china shouldn't get all the good stuff but that's just me

Blizzard keep feeding me slop PLEASE

[queen grail]

wuyang is genuinely the lamest looking hero in the roster and i will never change my mind on that

[crisp basalt]

Insanity

[gusty folio]

ow classic is so ass

[crisp basalt]

There's a reason we got changes lol

[gusty folio]

how did i play this game

[summer cairn]

Always thought he looked like a generic isekai anime character ngl but I don't hate him

[long yoke]

True

[junior phoenix]

What if mercy was elusive as fdps, and had mobility that either put her support abilities,in a milder state, or she could sacrifice mobility for sturdier support abilities

[austere crag]

Are Classicwatch Lucio's projectiles fatter

they feel way easier to hit with for some reason

[left mortar]

dva need more nerfs in my opinion she still S tier i would want a heath change or even armo or dm nerf maybe to 3 to 2.5s

[swift narwhal]

understandable tho cuz its yknow pretty much whats seen as fun

[junior phoenix]

Kinda like ram or... Ball sorta have 2 temp states

ball is perma

[open pier]

why the server got the piss logo rn

[summer cairn]

I pissed on it

[weary badge]

if I started in 2016 and didn’t immediately pick zarya I would probably have quit in under a week

classic is buns

[austere crag]

Drink more water

[summer cairn]

I like yellow paint

[swift narwhal]

as i said, make it ow1 skins mixed with new ow2 skins

[brave void]

how so

[junior phoenix]

But Essentially I'm asking could it work if mercy had a kit that allowed her to play with fdps Properly or choose to play how she normally does . Similar to how ram can change to nemesis state

[swift narwhal]

then its truely a mix of old and new

• would be a cool effect

[brave void]

no like how wpukd u mix them

[swift narwhal]

well, icl itd look weird but just like the purple split

would it look weird and terrible? yes

but i think it could be fun

[terse fjord]

Support players need to grow brains

Zen isn’t working into full dive comp whole team asking for him to swap brig

[keen panther]

Yeah thats a great idea ❣️ a cool split of OW1 and OW2 skin versions

[brave void]

quirky

[terse fjord]

And he swaps life weaver

[keen panther]

Whats ur rank

[summer cairn]

W

[terse fjord]

It was diamond to masters range

he was unranked tho

[keen panther]

LOL

[swift narwhal]

oh..

well i mean

[terse fjord]

no

no I mean

[swift narwhal]

in THOERY lw is okay-ish

[terse fjord]

lw sucks balls

no

[swift narwhal]

i mean

[terse fjord]

No

[swift narwhal]

he has good dps

[terse fjord]

And zen doesn’t

[swift narwhal]

upclose

[terse fjord]

that was not the issue

[gusty folio]

oh my god zarya is disgusting

[terse fjord]

let’s go I got mercy anniversary skin

Selling my account

[light anchor]

Hey guys

[clever coral]

look at the circle

[swift narwhal]

and uh, he uh, can go up away from the, uh diving vertical movement heroes? and dash to heal

and uh, pull people to save him

[terse fjord]

that ain’t stopping Winston genji

all we were asking was a brig to defend Ana

[swift narwhal]

fun fact tho, without discord or seocndary fire lw outdmgs and duels zen!

[terse fjord]

but no

[swift narwhal]

(im aware im partially joking)

[terse fjord]

but like idk why

he had to play Lw there

[swift narwhal]

lw on himself can survive dives a BIT in theory, but in practice he cant

[austere crag]

I see, haven't done much to learn shooters properly so I wonder why the circle is designed to be the target higher up instead of like, center mass on the body

[terse fjord]

Honestly would’ve been ok with the moira

[tropic dove]

because life protects life

[terse fjord]

But why does Lw even exist

[summer cairn]

Lifeweaver outdamages zen if you break zen's ankles and rip off his limbs

[swift narwhal]

nah legit his dps is higher tho!

[terse fjord]

He shouldn’t be playable in ranked unless ur level 250

[summer cairn]

My bad

[austere crag]

Is it to build aim habits conducive for headshotting

[terse fjord]

he does have good dps not trynna deny that

But horrid character remove him

[swift narwhal]

i do like partially ragebaiting people by throwing in their face that TECHNICALLY lw is the highest skill ceiling support, its just that the ceilling is borderline useless and reliant on others

[keen panther]

Dafuq

[summer cairn]

He shouldn't be playable period

[terse fjord]

Play the f tiers in quick play

[clever coral]

it's supposed to teach head level crosshair placement because i think the dead center of the circle is head level

[crisp basalt]

Why you keep biting the obvious bait

[summer cairn]

Just give me kiri lucio slop backline bro

[terse fjord]

nah I do see what they going for and he is kinda fun in a chill lobby

[austere crag]

Makes sense

[clever coral]

then enlarged so the tracking isn't impossible

[brave void]

I love good lifeweaver mains

life grip is such a clutch move

[austere crag]

I see

[keen panther]

I thought he was serious. This is after all OWserious

[swift narwhal]

my main issue is that his niche kinda got yoinked by cat in large part

[terse fjord]

But if ur actually trying to win the game 97.9% of lifeweavers suck balls at lifeweaver

[swift narwhal]

hes supposed to be this support allowing new angles

and now cat goes, any angle is possible

[terse fjord]

he need a major rework

[crisp basalt]

No one is serious here

[terse fjord]

and yeh cat basically stole his entire niche

but actually healthy

[summer cairn]

the amount of times my teammate lifeweaver missed the grip on me while diving instead of another person made my balls shrink to 0.1 inches

[keen panther]

I see...my mistake.

[summer cairn]

They don't do it on purpose but it makes me so mad

[red bough]

??????

[terse fjord]

Cat is good now

[red bough]

cat bastion makes me want to KILL MYSELF IN REAL LIFE

[terse fjord]

That’s bastions fault tho

[tropic dove]

does juno have carry potential

[red bough]

bastion wasnt doing it until cat was added

[terse fjord]

The cat isn’t a dps now so I say she’s fine

[red bough]

lets remind you

[terse fjord]

Bastion can just do that

[summer cairn]

Lowkey yea

[crisp basalt]

When are u seeing them together

[red bough]

bastion wasnt doing it until cat was added

[clever coral]

movement aiming is just matching the way the enemy is moving so that u have to do very little aim adjustment with your hand

[red bough]

OWCS?

MY FACEIT GAMES?

[tropic dove]

is it? the fact that lifeline has no duration is a problem

unless it does idk

[summer cairn]

It doesn't

[red bough]

not even in ranked this is terrorising the TOP TIERS OF THE GAME, PRO LEVEL AND THE STUFF BENEATH IT

[livid dawn]

sorry for asking but whats owcs? 😓

[tropic dove]

just giving it a duration would be an easy fix then

[crisp basalt]

It's most in proplay

Rank catsion just doesn't work that well

[red bough]

overwatch champions series, the pro tier of the game

[clever coral]

u should try to build muscle memory for it in trainers like vaxta, importantly try to feel the positive difference it makes in aiming and how much easier it becomes

[summer cairn]

Professional overwatch

[livid dawn]

ohhh, tysm!!

[dawn dove]

its basically the new owl

[red bough]

it does, AND I PLAY IN TIER 3 I SEE IT TOO

[swift narwhal]

its crazy lucio got taken outback while bastion and cat got nothing

[red bough]

lucio deservedt hat nerf

hes not "taken out back" that was like

normal

nerf

[swift narwhal]

cat should just have a timer on tether it wouldnt change the INTENDED use of cat

[red bough]

he deserved

[austere crag]

Alrighty

[livid dawn]

i havent looked into it much, makes sense !!

tyty

[red bough]

i disagree, i think the target getting carried should take extra dmg instead

[swift narwhal]

fair tanji is very upset tho

[swift narwhal]

that could work too

[red bough]

tanji is fucking stupid

😭

not to be rude.

[swift narwhal]

shhhh

tanji my goat

stupid gotta stick together lily you know

[dawn dove]

rly

[red bough]

yes????????

[dawn dove]

i think they could've left him alone

maybe beat is too strong in pro

[red bough]

look at backlines for the past 3 years man

[swift narwhal]

ngl actually thinking about it this actually could be cool tho, cuz it makes it even more risk reward when transporting people too

[dawn dove]

def not an issue in ranked

[red bough]

ENOUGH TO BE NERFED!!!!!!!!

THIS SHOULD BE ENOUGH FOR A HERO TO BE NERFED.

[swift narwhal]

yeah but i think compared to the meta we have its more just weird

cuz ion think lucio was used in catstion right?

[red bough]

it only makes carrying someone for an entire fight worse, whereas u can still set up for cool ana nade plays, high noons, etc

[swift narwhal]

yeah

[red bough]

but its just specifically worse for cat bastion bc u get shot and actually take dmg

[swift narwhal]

rewarding creative plays

[livid dawn]

does anyone have any good content creators that make good ow videos, specifically for improvement? or what to watch to learn 🥹

[swift narwhal]

perhaps it could also be a ramp up

and still blizz refuses to fundementally change ram block

[swift narwhal]

PLEASE BLIZZ CHANGE RAM FUNDEMENTALLY I BEG

[fleet urchin]

Sorry wrong channel

[clever coral]

bastion is so tanky dude i hate him

[swift narwhal]

give ram any complexity

[dawn dove]

ngl lucio is the only main supp i want to be meta relevant

ow support design is horrific

[swift narwhal]

ehhh

[brave void]

which channel was this for

[clever coral]

why is she staring into my soul

[swift narwhal]

i think ows support design is pretty okay mainly cuz other games are just, so much worse or dont have supports traditionally in that way

ow (generally) stays pretty "fair" in designs

[terse fjord]

Enter kiriko

[swift narwhal]

like they TRY to add clear strengths and weaknesses

[swift narwhal]

generally

shes an exception rather than a rule

also very clearly rushed on some parts

[terse fjord]

highkey most of the ow2 heroes are ass design

Jq is cool ram is kinda cool

[swift narwhal]

suzu most likely was a VERY late addition

[terse fjord]

sojourn is a bit too thanos for my liking but whatever

[dawn dove]

ana good, bap horrific, cat horrific, lucio good, zen bad, kiri bad, lw horrific, mercy horrific, moira horrific, brig mid, illari mid, juno mid, mizuki bad, wuyang mid

[terse fjord]

wuyang slept on

[swift narwhal]

ever noticed how she didnt use suzu ever in her cinematic? how all her animations with suzu are stereotypical smoke bomb things and we know she had a smoke bomb?

[dawn dove]

i dont like wuyangs primary fire

hes overrated for sure

[terse fjord]

she was gonna have a smoke bomb

[swift narwhal]

kiri likely to VERY late stages had a smoke bomb

[jagged mortar]

Chat am i crazy or does the new domina bunny skin not glow when nano'd? Like you cant tell you're being nanoed at all when using that skin

[terse fjord]

I don’t like playing wuyang

But a good wuyang is nice to have on the team

He’s a main right?

feels like one

[swift narwhal]

untill eventually they decided "shit this is cluttered af" so they made suzu which healed, cleansed, phased and did knockback

[west niche]

how is dafran top 14 on tank and masters tank

[terse fjord]

yeh cause the smoke bomb was too much

[swift narwhal]

so likely suzu was a very late stage addition

[swift narwhal]

im aware

from what we basically know ram and kiri both were rushed

[terse fjord]

Ow devs specifically can’t do what the people want (rank decay) so made some dogshit new system

[swift narwhal]

ram specifically ult was

ram and mauga were swapped

[clever coral]

must have deranked

[terse fjord]

no I mean a smoke bomb is too much so add the best cool-down ever conceived in the game

[west niche]

no like his tier is top 14

but the matchrange is masters 4 to 1

[brave void]

how

[terse fjord]

min max master

[clever coral]

is my theory not correct

[dawn dove]

feels cheesy

[clever coral]

u can get a high t500 rank and then loss streak and be a funny green rank while high on board cause u barely lose points on loss

[dawn dove]

like it just completely ignores cover lol

[swift narwhal]

well yeah they clearly didnt know what to do with her

they more or less just wanted to lessen clutter

[terse fjord]

I guess they did

[swift narwhal]

tbh tho im so happy we didnt get old ram ult

[terse fjord]

with the cure everything button

[long yoke]

You only lose 1/3rd the challenger points you would win right

[swift narwhal]

cuz that seemed super toxic

[terse fjord]

what was old ram ult?

[swift narwhal]

tbh the cleanse was never the problem

[long yoke]

Its basically a playtime leaderboard

Its an ass system

[terse fjord]

Or just the inf version

[brave void]

its fun to use

[swift narwhal]

50% dmg dealt reduction in a frontal radius

[dawn dove]

my team bans orisa vendetta in 2026

gg

over in the draft phase

[terse fjord]

the immor was and is the problem entire ultimates countered by one easy ass cool-down that can hit entire team

so cheap

[clever coral]

yea but also idk how it works when u go below m5

[long yoke]

Trauma bans w

[brave void]

nostalgia babs

[long yoke]

Stagnant pretty sure

[terse fjord]

wow that does suck

[clever coral]

since u cant earn chall score in diamonds does that mean u also cant lose it?

[swift narwhal]

the issue has always done that it does that + way way more

[brave void]

enemies do 50% less dmg

not ram tskes less dmg

[terse fjord]

yeh Ik

[swift narwhal]

it sucks for the game

[terse fjord]

That would be aids

[brave void]

oka

[west niche]

@clever coral

[long yoke]

The autowin a fight ukt

[clever coral]

but that makes no sense u just should not be on the board if you're diamond

[swift narwhal]

old ram ult wasnt even that good especially on release btw

[long yoke]

Yeah its super wack

[swift narwhal]

infinite ult didnt matter when on release he couldnt do anything

[long yoke]

Meant the old one

The inf one was just fun imo

[swift narwhal]

yeah the one before he released

[clever coral]

is he champ in a master lobby then

[terse fjord]

didn’t he have lifesteal aswell

[long yoke]

Yah

[terse fjord]

or does he still have that

[swift narwhal]

no

never did

[terse fjord]

I don’t play ram he’s highkey boring

I swear he had lifesteal in ult

[swift narwhal]

ram is a fun low cortisol hero

[buoyant nebula]

low rank players scurry to escort maps like moths to a flame

[terse fjord]

block bot

[swift narwhal]

when i wanna do brain off i play him and have fun

[long yoke]

Ram is fun until you get forced to block bot

[west niche]

not sure cuz the match range is just masters and his rank border says top 12

i'll go leaderboard later

[swift narwhal]

this btw ive always advocated for changing

[west niche]

and see

[long yoke]

Since they keep encouraging block for some reason

[terse fjord]

tank is boring anyway just swap dva when ur losing

sick of it

[swift narwhal]

they should make his block decrease on power based on dmg taken and refill on punches

[terse fjord]

one tiny little dva nerf is not enough I want her dead

[swift narwhal]

he never did im like number 1 ram fan when it comes down to his stuff i know alot

[buoyant nebula]

buff dva again

you need her on that wall to prevent an even worse meta

[terse fjord]

It’s because of cern

[buoyant nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-want-need-you-need-me-on-that-wall-gif-16847371

[terse fjord]

that damn particle accelerator

no fuck dva

been thanos for years

she can rot

let someone else take the crown besides mauga

[swift narwhal]

dva should be a B+ hero cuz of her flexibility

[little leaf]

I just found Doom has a delay when using block after slam

[terse fjord]

yeh but u can slam bhop now

and the camera lock is the best it’s ever been

[little leaf]

it is so ridiculous

[swift narwhal]

the game is healthy when dva is say A or B tier cuz shes a hero who works in any team but is supposed to be like, she works anywhere but doesnt work best

[terse fjord]

she can just do it all and I hate her

[swift narwhal]

she SHOULD be able to do it all, but less well than dedicated tanks

[terse fjord]

dva and sojourn my least favourite hero’s because they legit can do everything

[swift narwhal]

thats the issue

[long yoke]

Dva is just not designed for 5v5

Her numbers have to be too pushed up for her to be good

[swift narwhal]

when dva becomes the BEST pick for brawl dive and poke at once

[long yoke]

And she just does everything

[terse fjord]

and everyone has known this fact for ages

[swift narwhal]

dva was fine for a while tbf

[little leaf]

The desinger stop the input when doom is slaming on the ground.

[buoyant nebula]

dva cannot do it all thats kiriko

[swift narwhal]

dva can too

in tank

[terse fjord]

post perks I have never once enjoyed a game against dva

wait I hate kiri aswell

The evil 3

[swift narwhal]

name one time where dva isnt a good pick

[terse fjord]

Dva soj kiri

[little leaf]

Literally it is no difference with stunned

[terse fjord]

when she’s banned

[little leaf]

dva op. that is it

[terse fjord]

I alr perma ban dva but idk who else to add to it

Kiri and soj don’t deserve perma ban

maybe hazard he’s getting on my nerves

it’s just doom without any of the risk

[buoyant nebula]

my team and i got shat on by a gold ball

[summer cairn]

Idk what happened that made hazard feel good to play now

[buoyant nebula]

support is SO HARD

[summer cairn]

Last season he felt so ass

[terse fjord]

Passive change

He has the movement ability heals now

Used to be going airborne healed which was op asf on hazard cause the mantle

[violet crow]

it really wasn't that op

they had to climb for .7 seconds to trigger it

[terse fjord]

well hazard already absurd hero imo

[twilit cave]

why do ppl insist on locking liveweaver

bruh i lost my match cus lifeweaver was getting bummed and if he swapped we would’ve had our flaw fixed 😭

[twilit cave]

that reminds me

[keen panther]

Everyone deserved their nerfs and buffs based on currently available information

[proven fox]

after playing arcade ow classic, I think i missed my ow1 bastion

[twilit cave]

why is dooms one his punch

or is it just there for example

[buoyant nebula]

slam has a longer cooldown

[twilit cave]

why bot both tho

im still confused tho cus how often r u airborne with ounch

punch

[buoyant nebula]

maybe they think they'd swap out haz for doom

it doesnt give depending on airtime anymore

[violet crow]

lifeweaver is not a throw pick, it's passable

[buoyant nebula]

its just whenever you use punch you get heals

[twilit cave]

ohh

thats nice

[violet crow]

it ain't great but if you lost cause your teammate picked lifeweaver i highly doubt that

[terse fjord]

idk he is pretty pathetic

[buoyant nebula]

i'd imagine its nice for doom cus he can punch block empowered punch

[twilit cave]

lw isnt bad i get that but my one was dying evrry second brih

[open pier]

did they rly giganerf kiri without nerfing ana

[violet crow]

the kiri nerf is kinda ehh now

[terse fjord]

idk about giga nerf

[violet crow]

the one earlier today was actually a giga nerf

but they removed it

[brave void]

giga nerf?

[twin wing]

:p

[heavy estuary]

“Giga nerf kiri” LMAO

[terse fjord]

rip Lucio tho caught a stray

[brave void]

the other s tier caught a stray

[terse fjord]

by association

[buoyant nebula]

GIGANERF lol

[fathom ingot]

how was it giga nerf?

[buoyant nebula]

kiri players when they lose 0.02% of their healing output

[terse fjord]

yeh but he cool

[fathom ingot]

invincibility and cleanse would stay

[terse fjord]

0.0001% of mercy players pain

[violet crow]

there was an early patch that made suzu be non-phasing and only becomes invuln

[brave void]

lucio tried to sound barrier the nerfs for kiri

[violet crow]

they could still be booped off position

[fathom ingot]

does phasing matter

[terse fjord]

not really

[fathom ingot]

its not rly giga nerf

[buoyant nebula]

ana in low rank is so fun nobody respects antiheal

[brave void]

lets break it down

abd then they broke down his ultimate

nice one

[terse fjord]

that’s all Lucio had man

beat and speed

[fathom ingot]

ana mains in low rank only use for self heal or heal amp

[terse fjord]

they cucked his breakpoints already

it’s so over

now he will only be A tier rip

[brave void]

how is mizuki now

with his ultimate rework

[terse fjord]

better probably

[violet crow]

S tier support ult

[terse fjord]

more value

[brave void]

yeah

[fathom ingot]

tbh i think lucio is like b-c for ranked

[brave void]

cage fight if it was a support ultimate

[terse fjord]

I just think speed is op

[fathom ingot]

especially if u dont have comms

[violet crow]

being able to bob and weave in and out makes it so easy to gap greedy dpses

[gusty folio]

i finished the classic challenges

[terse fjord]

but I’m dive brawl player so might be biased

[gusty folio]

fuck that bumass mode

[cold helm]

blizz after forcing poor owians to play their dogshit mode

[fathom ingot]

i think speed has high value too

[brave void]

it gets so boring after a while

[terse fjord]

fuck poke all my homies hate poke

[brave void]

so excited for overwatch 2020 guys

[cold helm]

?

[brave void]

whats 2020 even gonna look like

[terse fjord]

boring

make sigma dive tank somehow

[gusty folio]

its either like marvel rivals or like a tac shooter

[brave void]

gravity teleportsnt

[gusty folio]

either throwing 14 ults out every fight or ur dyin when u peek an angle for 0.2 seconds

[brave void]

or ur playing angry birds as u try to fight 6 roadhogs

[brave island]

You really have to play Winston, Rein + Zarya, Bastion, or be a god on Genji and/or Tracer in that mode

[heavy estuary]

What’s with overwatch’s and rivals obsession with poke slop 😭

[summer cairn]

Just let him summon a black hole that sucks everyone into it and kills them instantly

[shadow sun]

What have u been drinking this morning sir

[summer cairn]

Rivals is worse because they're so shameless about making poke slop be the meta forever

[fathom ingot]

beer

[brave void]

fucking yuki

[summer cairn]

They don't even hide it

[shadow sun]

🔥🔥

[brave void]

overwatchs worst meta is mrs baseline

[brave island]

It’s easier to play and you don’t have to exhibit any type of awareness

[summer cairn]

Tru

[shadow sun]

lucio is good bro ppl are just buns at him until ur like gm

[buoyant nebula]

god ana headshots is so goated

[fathom ingot]

players dont know how to play with lucio

[shadow sun]

that too

[long yoke]

Not anymore tbf lmao

[fathom ingot]

ranked idiots get hit by everything

[long yoke]

He probably still has a place in flashpoint tho

[violet crow]

reminder to all that these used to be what anniversary skins were

[shadow sun]

lowkey he might be ass now i haven’t played in a bit . But lucio is usually always good

[violet crow]

now we only get purple and white ass colorway

[fathom ingot]

when scrim/pro players try not to take dmg unless theyre farming supp ult

[west niche]

lucio isnt that good in ranked compared to pro play idk how people think its a hot take

[fathom ingot]

so lucio is good

[fathom ingot]

ong

[grand mist]

Why have mythics devolved overtime😭

Ana's old mythic allowed you to completely change her head, legs, and parts of her coat.

Her new one literally only lets you change the hair

[west niche]

ppl just see pro players play a hero and dont know context

[violet crow]

yeah lucio is ass in asia gm+ he's like least picked

[shadow sun]

if u have good mechs and can win 1v1s he’s still good in ranked

[long yoke]

Lazyness

[fathom ingot]

also lucio cant solo carry too

[shadow sun]

beat will always be good too

[fathom ingot]

only works if ur smurfing ig

[west niche]

if ur winning 1v1s consistantly ur prob smurfing

LOO

YOO

[long yoke]

Lol

[shadow sun]

no broo

[fathom ingot]

beat value got brutally murdered this update

[brave void]

did it?

[long yoke]

And yeah beat got shot and thrown into a ditch

[fathom ingot]

yes

[shadow sun]

Oh my god

[brave void]

whatd they do

i heard smth is 60% now

but idk what it means

[violet crow]

-125hp overhealth 6s becomes 5s duration

[fathom ingot]

hes lowk even d tier for ranked

imo

[shadow sun]

what did they to do my boy dawg

[west niche]

like if ur in lobby around ur skill tier you wont be able to do as much as a support bevause you cant risk dying or the fight is over

[long yoke]

He only heals himself 60% on healing mode

Used to be 70%

[brave void]

o wow

[grand mist]

From 750 overhealth to like uhh 625 or something

[brave void]

thats what i assumed it meant didnt think it was real

[grand mist]

I think

[long yoke]

In the bug fix section btw

[brave void]

thats for sound barrier tho

[grand mist]

Oh

Lmao

[long yoke]

Yeah its ass

They hid it as a bug fix

Lucio got shot this update for fun

Only play him on flashpoint ngl

[shadow sun]

all the symmetrical game modes he will still be decent on

like control fp push

[spiral fractal]

top 3 shop purchases

[shadow sun]

but he’s prob horrible on payload now

[swift narwhal]

beat is ass guys cuz vendetta breaks it trust

[violet crow]

imagine having to play a hero that only has
20hp/s base healing (you're dead if you need a quick fix)
ass boop kb on base kit
ult with no impact now

[stiff crescent]

does anyone know if the shop is fixed for xbox players?

[swift narwhal]

all of rams stuff this season is peak

[long yoke]

It is

[shadow sun]

He has high burst dmg and combo potential too tho

[swift narwhal]

the apocalypse warrior skin is amazing too

[long yoke]

It was down last night due to playercount

[brave void]

top 1 and 2 are vendetta personal trainer and domina bunny business.

[stiff crescent]

thank you

[grand mist]

Vendetta sucks>Vendetta ult kills Lucio ult>Lucio sucks

[west niche]

theres a reason why most supports dont have high kill numbers in matches where the skill is equal

[swift narwhal]

powerscalers ahh moment

[open pier]

how long do i gotta throw games and cry online before the roadhog nerfs get reverted

[grand mist]

Ggez

[spiral fractal]

i agree

[long yoke]

Its so peak

[swift narwhal]

i know what you are

[gusty folio]

I NEED THE BUNNY SKINS SO BAD

[brave void]

I need to buy it soon

[long yoke]

Until you get banned hopefully

[west niche]

why does no one like the zarya one shes hot

[long yoke]

Cus brig is better

Brig on top

[brave void]

noone said that

[west niche]

all is good

[spiral fractal]

i accidentally bought it 😅

[brave void]

domina just

[shadow sun]

look up puffissenpai on yt and watch his lucio edits you’ll look at the hero completely different

[brave void]

supremely overshadows

[long yoke]

Domina too

[brave void]

everyone there

[buoyant nebula]

brig should never be good

[west niche]

of me?

[shadow sun]

he’s insane

[swift narwhal]

i got the bundle of the fan made ones cuz its all heroes i play and i like em all

[violet crow]

it's not that i don't like it, it's that i hate it because it's the only new one she gets

[long yoke]

??

[buoyant nebula]

she commmited too many crimes in goats era

[long yoke]

Shes really good rn

Fym

[grand mist]

This is the best shes looked in years😭

[buoyant nebula]

she shouldnt be

its like rehabbing hitler

[violet crow]

like give her a proper good one man

[brave void]

lol?

barbarian skin

[long yoke]

It the devs' fault for enabling it

[brave void]

zarya has good personality

[grand mist]

And when was that released

[brave void]

👀

[long yoke]

Years ago

Lmaoo

[grand mist]

[brave island]

It was part of the Diablo event

[long yoke]

Can we get a skin for bap ever btw

[spiral fractal]

why were ppl hating on the main menu ost for this event

its kinda cool

[brave void]

I have music trned off

I wouldnt know.

overwatch music is never abhorrent tho

[violet crow]

i hate it cause it isn't lesserafim

[long yoke]

The devs need to make the menu music actually stay between menus

[spiral fractal]

dang

[long yoke]

And not only when I hover over a single tab

On the main page

[fathom ingot]

midtown music is peak

[long yoke]

Genuinely how do they mess up main manu music so badly

[brave void]

the boys episode today

[long yoke]

Peak ep btw

[fathom ingot]

was it ending in 2 ep

[long yoke]

Came out 5hrs ago

[fathom ingot]

from now

[little leaf]

i like midtown music

[long yoke]

Ending next episode

[little leaf]

have watched

[fathom ingot]

bro if homelander just dies to v1 imma touch makers

[violet crow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLvWy2b857I

back then the main menu ost was peak

imagine just opening game and you just vibe

[long yoke]

Dw its not that 😭

[spiral fractal]

ep 7 spoiler

||i was hoping frenchie died a more brutal death tbh||

[brave void]

LOL,

[fathom ingot]

frenchie dies??

[brave void]

psychopath

[brave void]

nice one mate

😂

[long yoke]

||i did like how he was just crawling away it was quite sad but I do agree||

[fathom ingot]

was he that guy who made that

sup killing thing

[long yoke]

Yeah

[fathom ingot]

why would he die

[long yoke]

The French man the girl and the man named mother's milk

[grand mist]

A certain someone's death in ep ||5|| was fun

[fathom ingot]

yo i didnt watch it yet sybau

[brave void]

I dont like how the leaks were accurate

[violet crow]

that's why they're using spoilers bro

[long yoke]

Are you lobotomised

[fathom ingot]

yes

[long yoke]

Multiple spoiler tags and you still click on them

[grand mist]

Why are you pressing the spoiler tags

[long yoke]

It was internal set leaks

So yeah

Theyre 100% correct

[fathom ingot]

i lowk hate spoilers but i wanna know them

[sonic otter]

Icl the boys has been mid since s3

[long yoke]

It defo fell off but im still enjoying it i think

Gen V is better than post s3 the boys tho ngl

[sonic otter]

Didn’t watch the last episodes but soulja boy carried season 5 so far for me

[grand mist]

Why tf is shop still down for me😭

It's been hours

[sonic otter]

But it was still mid for the most part

[grand mist]

Like so many hours

[fathom ingot]

whats wider zarya's shoulder or pacific

[violet crow]

they don't want your money

[long yoke]

Theyre trying to spare you

[spiral fractal]

i cant remember 1 thing hughie has done this season

[long yoke]

The what if rammatra skin is kinda dark ngl

[fathom ingot]

i like new skins

[grand mist]

I don't wanna give them shit I'm trying to spend my free gold units💔 💔 💔

[sonic otter]

Are you xbox?

[fathom ingot]

y not

[long yoke]

Hes lowkey just a house slave forever

[grand mist]

Yeah

[long yoke]

With no will of his own

[brave void]

I feel bad for the deep

[sonic otter]

There was an issue w the shop regarding xbox only

[grand mist]

Guh

[sonic otter]

They released a 600mb update that fixed it

[fathom ingot]

why

[long yoke]

Its been fixed now p sure

Yeah

[sonic otter]

See if you have an update restart the game

[grand mist]

I just downloaded the update

Rn

[brave void]

the seven is gone and the whole sea dont fw him

[shadow sun]

do most of you guys play console?

[grand mist]

And then got on

Wtf

[long yoke]

I play both

[sonic otter]

Restart the game it should work now it worked for me

[grand mist]

Trash game

[fathom ingot]

the seven is gone??

[brave island]

I was thinking something like that as well

[grand mist]

Ok ty

[sonic otter]

Used to be mostly pc but now mostly xbox cuz no more pc

[brave void]

like homelander disbanded it

[long yoke]

Disbanded, something something isnt it ironic theres not been 7 members in years

[fathom ingot]

when

[long yoke]

Yeah its like oddly dark

Ngl

[spiral fractal]

its the one

[brave void]

this episode

[fathom ingot]

spoiler 🥀 🥀

[grand mist]

You

Just asked

[fathom ingot]

he said they disbanded first

i thought i missed that part

[shadow sun]

same, i main lucio on pc . When i play ps5 i usually just play hitscan it’s so much harder to play lu against aimassist

so i rlly haven’t been playing ngl

[fathom ingot]

ngl i thought this was lw for a sec

[shadow sun]

now that he’s giga nerfed too

[long yoke]

What job do you get into if you go to metal college in overwatch

[shadow sun]

it’s prob even worse

[long yoke]

Do you just become a miner

Like genuinely what is the plan

[fathom ingot]

wdym metal college

[long yoke]

Metal college

[cold helm]

W lucio nerfs

[fathom ingot]

whats metal college

[long yoke]

Like water college

And fire college

[dawn dove]

teammates flaming me but i got gold objective time

[brave island]

Assuming it’s metal, you could do whatever the fuck you want

[dawn dove]

and bronze dmg

[long yoke]

Does fire college do screening to make sure you dont

Become an arsonist

[spiral fractal]

YOO

[shadow sun]

you would prob work at a omnic manufacturing factory

[spiral fractal]

NEW RAM SKIN SHOOTS SOAP

[long yoke]

Surely the overwatch world has a massive amount of arsonists due to fire college

[long yoke]

Yeah its peak

[fathom ingot]

they prolly learn uh

[little leaf]

lol. They are feeding when you are staying with target

[long yoke]

Slave ram smin

Skin

[fathom ingot]

learn controlling metal

[dawn dove]

literally

[fathom ingot]

and they throw metal like wuyang or anran

maybe

[dawn dove]

i love the obj

[shadow sun]

it’s crazy how this channel is always active and it’s like never the same ppl

[fathom ingot]

fr

[shadow sun]

sometimes it is

[fathom ingot]

arent you basically

fucking magneto

if u go to metal college

[dawn dove]

im clocking in for the afternoon shift

[long yoke]

Surely giving people bending powers are college is

Terrible for terrorism rates

Ike imagine you pull up on a bank robbery as a normal person

And he just bends fire at you

[fathom ingot]

thats basically

anran

[spiral fractal]

is there an air college

[fathom ingot]

water fire exists so why not

[long yoke]

Probably but not mentioned yet if there is

[violet crow]

it's chinese elements

[shadow sun]

Water college

[long yoke]

Feng shui college

[stable swan]

Who here has a 10 year old ow account ?

[violet crow]

i'm a year short

[shadow sun]

do you guys know how they just scrapped dual front in r6 they should do that with stadium in ow

[long yoke]

I might im not sure

Im still least 7yrs

[shadow sun]

and make new maps for the actual mode

[stable swan]

Still pretty cool

[fathom ingot]

im only 6 years short

[stable swan]

lol

[long yoke]

Idk why they gave the account year badges to everybody tbh

In China they were for how old your account was

[light violet]

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[long yoke]

But they just gave out all 5 to everybody on global p sure

[violet crow]

they didn't

[fathom ingot]

no

i only got 1 and 3

[long yoke]

Oh fr?

[fathom ingot]

yuh

[long yoke]

Nevermind ive got a 10 year old account I lied

[light violet]

I think it’s a bug where it gave them out incorrectly for some

Bc god forbid they actually get something to work

[shadow sun]

why did they get 10 mythics in china and we get that butt recolor

i mean the recolor is alright i guess

on some ppl

[twilit cave]

im in diamond why does everyone randomly ban hog now lol (not a hog main so idc)

[long yoke]

Game was down for a year but they defo got overcompensated yeah

[violet crow]

the colorway is ass

[light violet]

Bc OW china makes you spend like 200 to gamble for a legendary skin any other time

😭🙏🏽

[long yoke]

14 battlepasses, 14 mythic skins

[fathom ingot]

because people suck

[long yoke]

30 legendary skins of your choice

[violet crow]

all the previous anniversary skins are fucking good

[long yoke]

And smthing else I forgot

[fathom ingot]

hog is never pick/banned in asia

[violet crow]

but they decide the best course of action for 10 years is have a lot of heroes have a shitty recolor

[shadow sun]

they also release certain skins and region lock them

[fathom ingot]

idk why people ban hog so much in eu/na

hog with no hook is just sandbag??

[shadow sun]

like that one widow skin that’s only available in china

[fathom ingot]

china ow is just different game with us we should stop complaining tbh

[shadow sun]

They have morals in asia

[spiral fractal]

ive never gotten 4 greys from a box

[keen panther]

If u find out how people get skins in China youll be thankful for the anniversary recolors

[fathom ingot]

impossible normally i think 😭

[brave island]

I think people are just tired of seeing him, an 8 second cooldown on hook might as well be 5 seconds to them.

[golden spindle]

Chat I graduated high school :3

[shadow sun]

hog-> moma hong

[violet crow]

i swear to god if they do something to make us play fortnite to get overwatch skins

💀

[keen panther]

Congratulations!

[shadow sun]

that rework is saving hog ong

[fathom ingot]

i think such thing never happened except for same blizzard games

[golden spindle]

Can’t even heart react smh
🩵 🩵

thankies

[keen panther]

Thereee

[brave island]

Life will now commence

[shadow sun]

what can fortnite even do for ow in game stuff? It’s prob just gonna be ow skins in fortnite

[long yoke]

Its mythic weapons in fortnite pretty sure

Dva pistol and mercy staff or some cral

[shadow sun]

ohhhh

[long yoke]

It got leaked i know that

[sonic tundra]

why is the anniversary lootbox so ass

[shadow sun]

that would be pretty cool

i could see them doing like a recall ability too

[sonic tundra]

this shit is worse than junkrats lootbox hunt

[long yoke]

The sprays are good

But yeah the rest is the worst anniversary oat ngl

[sonic tundra]

who tf uses sprays

this community so ass

[long yoke]

Me in the spawn or to bm people as ana

[shadow sun]

sprays are peak

[heady kettle]

md

me

[long yoke]

Pillow spray under peoples head

[sonic tundra]

worst anniversary of all time and you people are willing to settle for less

[long yoke]

I literally just called the anniversary dogshit

Are we okay

[sonic tundra]

you one guy

[fathom ingot]

it is shit

[shadow sun]

we were all calling it awful

[sonic tundra]

noones review bombing the game

[shadow sun]

like 15 mins ago

[fathom ingot]

10 years to just give us recolor skins

[sonic tundra]

people still buy the new skins

[long yoke]

Cus en dont really review bomb stuff often tbf

Its usually china

Who review bomb

[sonic tundra]

this why the chinese get 10 mythics and you people get scraps

[long yoke]

Different game from a different company

[fathom ingot]

we need review bombing

gang

[heady kettle]

china gets 10 mythics cause they havent played the gamr in 2 years

[violet crow]

they don't even give us 10 mythic prisms

[shadow sun]

you can’t tell me they genuinely thought ppl would be satisfied with this stuff. They know there community they lowkey just don’t care

[heady kettle]

lets use our brains

[fathom ingot]

10 years is pretty special

we care

[shadow sun]

I do too

[sonic tundra]

thats the dumbest excuse ive heard in my bro

[long yoke]

They actually got 14 mythic,14 battlepasses and 30 legendary skin selectors

[shadow sun]

jeff would have never done this

[sonic tundra]

didnt they already get old bps

pre anniv on other events

[light violet]

Yes

[sonic tundra]

see

[hot quiver]

so we all buying the ow fortnite skins right

[sonic tundra]

community filled with bums

[violet crow]

only 1-9 gives mythics

[shadow sun]

jeff kaplin woulda dropped a peak event

[long yoke]

No