Delver Ambition could use work

[little current]

The major ambition is easy, but unstoppable juggernaut is as much a detriment as a bonus, since it prevents units from ever being able to stand in cover for their own protection and has to be applied to all units in the stack, even ranged units. Furthermore, the minor renown reward is basically asking you to waste 10 turns with this hero personally excavating when that's a job you could have a scout or a T1 doing.

Maybe make the army passive only apply to melee units? And increase the renown from excavating, or change it to something more appropriate for a heroes' time, like winning underground battles or something.

[ebon nebula]

I agree. I don’t care much for “unstoppable juggernaut”

[slow timber]

I do, it is useful for smashing foliage so that my other units are not slowed down by walking through plants

and denying the enemy potential cover

[little current]

I can understand it being useful when you want it to be there, but it still removes even the cover you DON'T want to destroy. It especially sucks because clearing an infestation underground is almost guaranteed to be something you do within the first 10 turns of an underground start, and then suddenly all your T1 and T2 ranged units who want to use cover to protect themselves, no longer can.

[undone sky]

If I'm walking through foliage, it's likely on my side of the battlefield and unlikely an enemy would have benefitted from it.

[green oriole]

It would be better it the army's attacks can destroy fortified obstacles instead of automatically destroy your own covers.

[magic warren]

I agree...i love the ambition from a roleplay perspective but im...not actually fond of "un jug"

[green oriole]

So, the delver ambition ability is... the earthshaker ascension trait but armywide. It seem that they ran out of idea about ground related ability since the beginning.

[chilly wigeon]

Earthshaker also has a strong on crit effect

[green oriole]

@chilly wigeon A stunned with two stacks defenses and resistances sundering on crit. Would you take that ascension trait just for that? Would you take the delver ambition ability to destroy your covers?

[chilly wigeon]

literally the reason people take Earthshaker is for the crit thing

unstoppable juggernaut is the worst movement trait in the game lol

[green oriole]

@chilly wigeon My initial point was about the lack of inspiration concerning ground base ability. 1: the delver ambition is just applying unstoppable juggernaut upon the leader's army and nothing more. 2: despite earthshaker having a hidden interesting on crit effect that IS the selling point of the ascension trait, more so than the displayed unstoppable juggernaut, it do not make the ascension trait worth taking over one that have a greater influence over the battlefield.