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harsh folio Oct 6, 2024, 3:04 PM

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I love my AOW 4 but city fights are Lacking in terms of feeling like a city fight.

All there is is a wall, towers, and a background of a city that would be ready fun to fight in.

*Picutes listed of AOW4 and Planetfall

I propose adding some form of buildings to the map or on the left and right sides with a road in the middle.
It would add more strategic thinking to fights and be more fun.

To start with, the map can be identical, but variation based on upgrades and city state would be pleasant.

If anyone disagrees with this, I'd like to hear the reasoning.

The map is empty in fights and as you are in the middle of a province, the heart of a city, it shouldn't be that way. There should be Life(Or death) that showed an active city (not just in the background.

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harsh folio Oct 6, 2024, 4:11 PM

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I will Elaborate!

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Having buildings Especially towards the walls will give more incentive to shock units and skirmish units and less of a shield wall line focus like most maps have.

Blocking holes in the wall and in the streets and forcing pocket fighting where you only have 2-4 units fighting effectively in an ally or between buildings allows the defenders to pushforward slightly and have a fighting retreat, and stop the targeting of the towers right at the start.

Buildings and destruction mechanisms mixing together give both sides ways to make it feel like the fighting is more destructive, and units that can walk through/destroy them have a much bigger feeling of impact and importance.

harsh folio Oct 6, 2024, 4:36 PM

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Side Note: The maps we have are great (In terms of events/Infestation and wonders) but the maps outside of type (desert forest swamp) lack any real styles that force a change in thinking, just wide open maps.

I'd think adding bigger blocks or more hindrances would makes map more fun.

River maps with a 3 wide bridge being more common, mountin maps that force a unit split or give a huge mountin in the middle, maps with canyons you can't cross in some parts that gives arches an advantage ect ect.

harsh folio Oct 7, 2024, 7:02 PM

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Hmmm

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Day 2

harsh folio Oct 8, 2024, 2:35 PM

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Day 3

rough pond Oct 8, 2024, 10:10 PM

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There's a mod that adds unique structures like garrisons and buffs to support structures, something like that alongside subtle map tweaks would give defenders way more tools than they have now.

Oddly it feels like fighting in your city vs out of it is generally not that different without heavy investment into defenses. Even then it's the armies you have on hand that decide the battle rather the the support structures they have, plus invaders can destroy SPI's and support structures with razing or siege projects. At least other games like Total Warhammer and Planetfall gave you some extra units to make fighting on home turf a bit more attractive.

harsh folio Oct 9, 2024, 1:18 PM

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Day 3

harsh folio Oct 9, 2024, 1:20 PM

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rough pond There's a mod that adds unique structures like garrisons and buffs to support st...

I agree! The indy gives units at a t3 city and the buffs in a domain help but there domain wide. Fighting is a city doesn't offer a lot of buffs with the amount and scope of sige projects there are.

That said I just really want buildings in sige battles to flush out the map more

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To add on to the first part the structures can be usually avoided or killed with a summon quite fast, and attackers get towers as well

harsh folio Oct 10, 2024, 1:34 PM

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Day 4

harsh folio Oct 11, 2024, 3:14 PM

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Day 5!

balmy laurel Oct 12, 2024, 9:02 AM

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No need to bump forever,|| though it seemed to work for the free cities guy ^^ ||

harsh folio Oct 12, 2024, 5:54 PM

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balmy laurel No need to bump forever,|| though it seemed to work for the free cities guy ^^ |...

Ohh

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I was doing it because it's fun and it reminds me to interact with other suggestions

harsh folio Oct 13, 2024, 5:02 PM

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Day ?

harsh folio Oct 15, 2024, 9:12 PM

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This got to seventeen, im supprised

pallid ember Oct 16, 2024, 4:38 AM

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Bump

sand flower Oct 16, 2024, 9:38 AM

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Agreed, would be neat, Siege maps are kinda samey

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Additionally varying them up based on culture would be great

vale stream Oct 29, 2024, 2:03 PM

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nice idea

queen siren Nov 1, 2024, 10:32 AM

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Agreed. Each culture really needs their own unique defensive Siege structure that looks and feels unique. Additionally, I think if you choose to attack an army adjacent to your city that it should use the city siege map.

harsh folio Nov 1, 2024, 7:04 PM

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More buildings!

thorn verge Nov 2, 2024, 12:15 PM

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We know it now.

plucky rune Nov 3, 2024, 10:10 AM

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The tactical AI really struggles if there's too much obstruction. Until that's improved, I don't expect maps to be made much less open

neon scroll Nov 17, 2024, 12:58 PM

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harsh folio Side Note: The maps we have are great (In terms of events/Infestation and wonder...

casting the swamp terraforming spell on a lightning/frost build , means enimes walk thou water and get wet then have negative res to your damage type , it also removes burning if they happen to be useing it , and i mean i could name a few other situations but i dissagree current maps dont make you think

worthy vapor Nov 18, 2024, 5:49 AM

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neon scroll casting the swamp terraforming spell on a lightning/frost build , means enimes w...

They sometimes do. But most of the time no.

harsh folio Dec 31, 2024, 8:36 PM

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Ahha!

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Thoguht to make this revelent again

balmy laurel Dec 31, 2024, 10:52 PM

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Happy new year. Note: I did not actually want to wish you happy new year, it was all a clever ruse to bump this thread.

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Though happy new year, for real.

harsh folio Jan 1, 2025, 12:41 AM

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Haha

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Hny

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Happy new year*

harsh folio Mar 14, 2025, 2:41 PM

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Ha! I want this post to still live!

#More buildings in City fights.