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shell hazel
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he died

upper grove
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Oh

shell hazel
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I saw you lived

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only me and taarn in now even from shihai etc

upper grove
shell hazel
shell hazel
minor egret
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I ended up third in mine, I died right away owari da

upper grove
upper grove
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Me not whale/high sync enough

shell hazel
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diff union but same question 😄

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we're 86th kunnyhub 64th

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we need more good commanders to charge forth

upper grove
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I like where I am tbh lol

shell hazel
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with us you could be great!

minor egret
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I'm in NIKG and I know a bunch of kunnies CrownHUH

shell hazel
upper grove
versed mesa
versed mesa
shell hazel
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what your IGN Grim?

minor egret
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Easier with ID

shell hazel
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doesn't work for me I need open id

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or IGN

minor egret
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I'm the bottom line Crown_OwO

shell hazel
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damn 😄

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I found ye yup

minor egret
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Btw that website with the UR data was weird because it's much more than you could get of blabla with the other method

livid rover
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【今後はアリーナ特化キャラはいなくなる❓🤔
アリーナ勢のガチャの引き方にも変化⁉️😳】
《ここ1年で実装されたアリーナキャラ性能の変化&
そこから読み取れる運営の意図☘️》

★直近1年のアリーナキャラ性能🌵
(個人的主観と独断による偏見で...

minor egret
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Like they have the time, the dupes, etc.

shell hazel
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blabla does not show that I've never seen it

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dupes I can actually get

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time as well probably

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I can't get the in game id

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I can do most of what the rip site does except for in game id

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I have union data for top 3% ish but it's 500 or so unions

minor egret
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Now it's public they have to look into it YeowTimi

shell hazel
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they will fix the loophole no doubt

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as it's a loophole

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I didn't publish anything someone else did

versed mesa
shell hazel
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indeed :0

versed mesa
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I have a hunch that last minute snipe prevention will fail today hmmz

hidden mortar
versed mesa
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Lost too much karma by passing advance in ca

minor egret
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snipe this

minor egret
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Only good thing about our bracket with Pleb is there's zero sniping before reset

versed mesa
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I wish the dude who started sniping me would just take my spot while I sleep, he could probably get enough to pass C3 that way and I could keep my sanity madge

minor egret
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I'll take some sniping over the guy who spend gems to attack again and again. God he's probably already at -4k this season and it started like 3 days ago

versed mesa
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I never gem in arena anymore, pointless and waste of gems

minor egret
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It's not worth it, it's just ego

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If you want to spend gems this bad you do wipe outs to level faster but it's a long term plan

versed mesa
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Ah the sniperino is idling again, status stopped updating

minor egret
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He's preparing his shot

gaunt pulsar
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that's unfortunate NovelHmm need to change then

versed mesa
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Oh he hit me already

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Either he is prepared to gem, or he is giving up PepeTF

glacial haven
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Any tips to beat them?

versed mesa
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shrug Both my and the snipers free tickets are gone. Changed defense, now the ball is in his corner, will he gem or not?

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If he is like I used to be in this situation, he is grinding his teeth, but will not pepehmmm

versed mesa
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The guy in my union who I thought quit since he hasn't logged in for over 11 days just logged in poggies

frozen locust
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Guess this is rookie def team is really catching on KEKW

glad meteor
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All gacha skins

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They didn’t buy biscuit skin

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They hate doggos sadge

placid bloom
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Biscuit gacha skin next month surely clueless

hidden mortar
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I started using that like a week ago (for attacking)

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my defense is still level 1 units

umbral crown
cunning crown
glad meteor
umbral crown
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UR paidment is here bois

minor egret
glad meteor
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Yeah

minor egret
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The infamous whiffed indom strike again

undone blaze
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My quantum, bastion, resi are all 5, rest 2-3, u think its worth getting temp to 5? Rn my noise and noah use that cube as p1

versed mesa
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Opponent didn't snipe with gems. A true person of honor HelmSalute

glacial haven
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Well.. That didn't last...

undone blaze
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I haven't been attacked in a while by #3, I thought he was gonna aim for me after he got the star trail title and got a massive boost, but nothing yet

mystic rain
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anyone knows if anis star shots have aoe or single target?

versed mesa
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Fine chilling at C3 aslong as C4 doesn't go above him too much.

undone blaze
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He usually sits at 3 too, but he likes to use his 2 free attacks everyday

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The guy at #5 has the most cp out of everyone but he never attacks

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Kinda weird but ok

umbral crown
versed mesa
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Ah man Ziz in Tetra tower. Thank frick that the manu specific bosses are nerfed compared to non prayge

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8k health bars but just melted anyway

versed mesa
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Well I went past him in CP but he is in one of the main big unions so he gets better pve rewards than most.

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The highest synchro player just sits in C10, even though he could probably contend for top 3.

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Or he just has high synchro but hasn't build any pvp units

viscid urchin
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@tropic summit

Not requesting help today but…it seems our little sniping experiment last time caused a shift in Challengers for my bracket. That Viper has been getting punched down, while the other one was knocked down to D1.

The C10 is seemingly not caring to go further but the 11 position might decide it is time to climb up.

heady peak
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can I please stop getting Nana in my bracket 64 bracket...

tardy bone
shell hazel
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prob this @tropic summit for alturia for me

surreal bobcat
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Y'all ever had someone hate you so much they spent two days worth of arena chips attacking you?

tardy bone
glad meteor
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All 10 chips on my ass hmmz

tropic summit
shell hazel
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I won't build takina as well

glad meteor
minor egret
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Actually built Chisato for Altruia susge

shell hazel
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601 and I can't go further?

tropic summit
shell hazel
glad meteor
tropic summit
glad meteor
glad meteor
placid bloom
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time to build ZweiT for Ultra clueless

viscid urchin
umbral crown
charred quail
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The pvp student has returned. It's time to use the 2 hits for knowledge

glad meteor
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Mine ady built. Yeah. I forgot she has cover repair

violet prism
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Hello Again ShiftyHi May I get some help to counter these teams?

minor egret
glacial haven
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Really hurts to open a pilgrim mold just to... this...

glad meteor
fast nest
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Libby or 4 beastPoggers

tardy bone
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This is my jackal, Defense is useful? Or not? I don’t see defense as a recommended skill anywhere for nikkes

placid bloom
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I mean it's blue line for CP pad TimiProud

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her stat don't really matter outside charge speed

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and your charge speed pretty good

minor egret
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Def is good for padding, extra stats

placid bloom
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everything else is extra

tardy bone
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Okok thank you

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What do you mean by padding?

minor egret
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power padding, the higher the better

tardy bone
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Okok

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CrownHUH sadge defense is not useful at all besides that

placid bloom
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surely defense scaling dps soon clueless

tardy bone
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Leblanc wise?

minor egret
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Isn't it ok on Moran?

placid bloom
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it's alright on Moran, but she actually does okay damage in PvE to Atk ele better TimiProud

tardy bone
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None of the guides explain how to build blanc wise equipment wise

minor egret
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She doesn't need specific lines but a vigor cube

placid bloom
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there's not enough rock income to spend on support unit tbh

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most people don't even reroll past initial OL

minor egret
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She's here for her kit, I left mine with base rolls

placid bloom
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you just hope she don't start with 1 line FrimaSleep

tardy bone
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Got it, thank you

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🥰

minor egret
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I never really bothered filling the empty lines in pvp. Never enough rocks for all modes

hollow lagoon
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@tidal lichen evil

tardy bone
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I spend 300 rocks on Vesti

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And she has carried me a lot

mystic rain
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sana ol

glad meteor
hollow lagoon
tidal lichen
tidal lichen
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youre full susge

hollow lagoon
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power of religion

glad meteor
cedar sorrel
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I can finally play pvp

glad meteor
shell hazel
cedar sorrel
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Yeahhh I got her from a pilgrim mold couple days ago

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She is now 3ol r10 hmmz

glad meteor
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Pretty sure my noah still 0lb

cedar sorrel
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Soon I can use her tho

minor egret
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I was about to ask when you got her

shell hazel
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don't think people can change union until tomorrow reset anyway

cedar sorrel
glad meteor
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Dec 1st 2023. Only one. Not a whel like @rich quail

minor egret
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I still remember back then when I was Noahless and had to rely on old Moran but my burst gen suffered heavily from it

cedar sorrel
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Ive been using my 2ol bay and was in the midst of OLing noise but then I got her

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Im just completely out of blue mats so shes staying r10 for a bit

minor egret
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Half baked investments, give your nikkes more love madge

tidal lichen
onyx scaffold
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CrownHUH @shell hazel thought? im the f2p guy in the pic

minor egret
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How did you even ran out of blue? MilkHuh

cedar sorrel
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U use blue to level dolls

signal hull
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Can someone please explain to me about Label... Isn't she supposed to get invulnerability for 10 seconds after burst (if she has her shield and bursts)? Because it didn't work for me and I'm sitting here, trying to figure it out.

shell hazel
minor egret
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He's poaching ChimeKisama

signal hull
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No.

shell hazel
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shame 🙁

shell hazel
tidal lichen
shell hazel
tidal lichen
minor egret
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If your union doesn't Diesel every day in chat it's time to look for another one Crown_smug

shell hazel
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we mainly want good players who can min max a bit, even f2p is fine

minor egret
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Truth is most players never switch because they're usually too comfy where they are

shell hazel
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sanaol was just behind us by 1 rank last UR

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but looking at the data was some heavy hitters and slackers

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our average is better just less high syncs

shell hazel
glad meteor
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I tried smary in sb

shell hazel
glad meteor
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Survived but couldnt step 2 pepehmmm

shell hazel
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anyway whoever winds up joining us gets a free subscription service to rail pvp cooking

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(rail doesn't know this yet)

glad meteor
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7:7:1 mod. Not even 4 ele. Asuka only 2 ele. Giga poop

shell hazel
minor egret
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Just be like us. No discord and a bunch of wild cards = top 30ish

shell hazel
versed mesa
placid bloom
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just use ur brain dumbass clueless

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can't you see which boss need to get hit

minor egret
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You'll be surprised how many times I saw someone confuse the rapture code for the weakness with the current UI

shell hazel
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yup we saw that too

cedar sorrel
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I made like a whole team of the same element then I saw weakness was something else and I was like oooh

versed mesa
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Also the new regroup thing is there, pick the wrong team, you can just switch

cedar sorrel
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True thats huge

versed mesa
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I always mock first though

cedar sorrel
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Yeah same

shell hazel
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NIKG not on blabla can't see average sync but it's probably quite high up

cedar sorrel
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Except with mace I had a nice wind team for him then I did some mocks after I already hit 2 others and realised mace destroys me

shell hazel
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to hit 2.26T damage

cedar sorrel
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I had to run helmT on burst + iframe so I didnt die CrownHUH

minor egret
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lowest is barely 400 I think

shell hazel
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Ours is 252 AndersonLaugh

placid bloom
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all the old boss murder low sync, I love near undodgeable machine gun and laser clueless

minor egret
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URHM is quite miserable at lower sync, I experienced it with an alt and even then I wasn't high sync enough when it started so I was getting bullied

shell hazel
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you can't do much until you nearing 400 sync imo

versed mesa
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I joined some random Union on super low alt, can't even hit a billion KEKW

minor egret
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Honestly as long as you clear normal day 1 and you're not top 100 hard mode barely matter

shell hazel
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we pushing some because what else we gonna do?

placid bloom
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25 chip diff TimiProud

placid bloom
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gotta fight for it

shell hazel
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I fully realise top 100 barely does anything 😄

minor egret
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That max core Nihilister is not going to pay itself

shell hazel
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but we fight a bit for it as we can

placid bloom
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lv15 tempering not paying for itself clueless

minor egret
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It's more fun when you have a rival union in your range

versed mesa
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I actually bought more tempering batteries today KEKW Level 10 after reset

minor egret
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I'm actually saving my chips in the eventually they managed to release a good cube or have the idea to raise the level cap to 20

swift tundra
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anyway to improve rookie arena attack or is just the higher cp the better?

placid bloom
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pretty sure every cube has been getting worse

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how we getting cover cube 3 years into the game

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the only cube that can save the game is cdr cube

minor egret
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I'm convinced at this point it's just to bloat so you get less of the good ones from solo raid TimiAngry

shell hazel
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imo they need to change how cubes work

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let us slot as many as we want, but cube level is the thing we upgrade

minor egret
versed mesa
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Will they? NAH

placid bloom
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there is still some filler cube they need to go through anyway

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can't wait for 4.66% crit dmg cube Crown_OwO

minor egret
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It's really just the values being too low for most

shell hazel
minor egret
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What 10% true damage is going to do

shell hazel
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alright tribe tower 1061

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shell hazel
placid bloom
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destruction actually alright value TimiProud just can't use it on 95% of boss

minor egret
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They also completely gave up on designing lost sectors

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minor egret
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Destruction is good when you can use it but it's the effects like resilience or bastion who are hard to top

minor egret
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At least pvp have some variety

shell hazel
versed mesa
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I haven't touched Destruction cube at all, does it actually have worth on anything? Especially since I have max level resi and bast?

shell hazel
minor egret
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It's situational and probably not worth it if you're not turbo competiting in pve

shell hazel
minor egret
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Summer Neon and Harran skin have the best poking nips Crown_OwO

placid bloom
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their manpower diverted to making 2x2 and TTS

charred quail
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Confused on who to put for burst 2 for the p5 noah weak link anti nuke/glass cannon

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placid bloom
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this is Vesti not linked surely, I see 2 C7 pepehmmm

charred quail
dense kindle
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@umbral belfry Spotted AliceLook

It's true we're back in same CA bracket poggies

placid bloom
charred quail
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i tested again with swha

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link is on swha and vesti

shell hazel
hollow lagoon
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haughty mortar
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@umbral belfry-chan can I pick your brain in a comp?

versed mesa
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Also reminds me of the stage music for Tekken 6

ionic rose
high swan
cedar sorrel
high swan
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Same composer did some songs for Nikke actually, AJURIKA

cedar sorrel
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Or like lapT in tower MW

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U usually would do if it ur neutral tho cuz the ele buffs high lvl cubes give are usually still better

cedar sorrel
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Unless u got destruction at the same lvl too

minor egret
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It was used on Nayuta in a recent Mat H in UR but I think you need like level 10 minimum

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high swan
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This is the main one I know, not sure if there's more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzB0E9_OojA

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minor egret
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Jackal link make my brain hurt sometimes

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ionic rose
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioKTlm7wFsE
hope they make a full season

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high swan
minor egret
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Anime short series. No date for the next ones, just like JoJo BridDed

high swan
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Metal Acid sounds like a harder Electric Fountain, and Underwater Flowers sounds like a character customisation theme from one of them CrustWAO

high swan
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Underwater Flowers is so good I might actually make it lobby music

shell hazel
high swan
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I'd get booted from this channel in a heartbeat if I started posting all the songs I love from this game lul

versed mesa
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Oh yeah Metal Acid sounds so similar to Electric Fountain KEKW

shell hazel
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I like how the music draws you into the fight even if you're repeating it for the 100th time lmao

versed mesa
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This is why I wish TTS wasn't so damn made to hardcore rhythm gamers and new songs weren't locked behind paying. Would enjoy just casually playing while listening to the music NoahCry

minor egret
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Meanwhile the upcoming SR is getting this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyFM2r4I20M&list=RDUyFM2r4I20M TimiCringe

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high swan
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Oh, I think this is what my raid lead was alluding to

placid bloom
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yeah this dude is not it TimiProud the CC remix is not that good either

high swan
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Lets have a listen

placid bloom
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well the CC one is a bit better than this at least

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you just can't hear the lyrics cuz the volume is so low

versed mesa
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For me a lot of the songs with actual vocals are so hit and miss.

high swan
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It's sounds like a speedcore sound I'd have played on Osu 15 years ago CrustWut

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Holy shit what is going on from 0:43

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Yeah this is bad omegalul

placid bloom
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he is experimenting too much and it's not working

minor egret
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Breakcore attempt went wrong

glad meteor
high swan
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I'll forgive him one crap one after the three and a half years worth of bangers we've gotten

shell hazel
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I don't mind remixes but it should be on songs that need it

placid bloom
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it's not the main guy, it's a remix guy

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I think he only did this and fire CC

versed mesa
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It sounds like dubstep at 0:43 PepeTF

high swan
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Oh nice, I knew my goat cosmo would never

glad meteor
minor egret
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It's the guy who made Mother Whale and Alteisen original songs

high swan
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I actually didn't mind the fire CC song tbh

high swan
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Wasn't as good as the OG

placid bloom
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no it's not the same guy that made Moving Fortress

shell hazel
placid bloom
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their name both start with Z but it's not the same guy

umbral belfry
glad meteor
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minor egret
shell hazel
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@waxen mesa

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haughty mortar
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Well at this point it doesn't matter coz I blew both my attempts vs someone I beat yesterday. I lost with the only difference being that we both leveled up once. Oh well

umbral belfry
shell hazel
placid bloom
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oh wait nvm it is, I was thinking of the other guy that made We're Never Giving Up

versed mesa
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I gave up

minor egret
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Which rapture?

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Never give up!

minor egret
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Classic

versed mesa
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I'm gonna see how far I've fallen from TTS ranks since I'm not buying the extra songs

placid bloom
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my rank fake af anyway, it's almost all normal difficulty TimiProud

versed mesa
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Still number one for my union, that is the only thing that counts BurninSmile

charred quail
versed mesa
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0.8% huh, higher than I thought

placid bloom
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I'm slowly working my way through hard, I have like 2 done and 2 that I feel like I can do but I keep choking FrimaSleep

shell hazel
versed mesa
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I'm too old for the speed needed above normal sadge

charred quail
versed mesa
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Barely can pass even the normal ones

shell hazel
placid bloom
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what's your start word for Wordle

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I always start with Noise pepehmmm

shell hazel
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I always change it

placid bloom
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gotta get as many vowels out

shell hazel
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whatever I feel like at the time

placid bloom
shell hazel
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else it's not as fun

charred quail
charred quail
versed mesa
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I start with house

heavy lodge
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thoughts on how to beat this? around 250k cp powergap 😭 1472 vs 1180

shell hazel
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think I'm winning this one

versed mesa
versed mesa
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1450, second highest: 705

minor egret
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Check mine. Oh...

minor egret
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They're still semi-active players in it but they're just enjoying their best lives collecting waifus

shell hazel
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you probably older account me? if so those are super slackers lol

versed mesa
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There is only a handful left in my server, but even the most active of them is 100 synchro behind me

minor egret
shell hazel
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1.5 anni cindy

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or 2.0?

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2.0 I think

minor egret
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That's like 6 months after me

onyx scaffold
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i never got this small cheer in my whole commander career

shell hazel
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yeah so you more 1.5

minor egret
shell hazel
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believe in the nikkes that believe in you!

onyx scaffold
versed mesa
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Wth mine is perfectly 50%. People have too much faith in me KEKW or they going for the loser cheer frame

minor egret
versed mesa
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Even I didn't vote for myself KEKW

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Then again maybe I should since I want that frame

minor egret
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More credits or a frame for losers, your choice

late tiger
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does 2.5rl scarlet team in CA with soda make sense?

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soda seems to be linked with jackal

versed mesa
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I'm sitting on so much credits atm, core dust lacking most

minor egret
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Sometimes I wonder what would have happened to this community if the credits bet system stayed Crown_laugh

late tiger
versed mesa
minor egret
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Open all cases and all-in 🎰

versed mesa
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Almost a year since my longest standing Nikke friend quit sadge

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I haven't had the heart to remove him

unique wagon
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Someone hit me to D4 yesterday

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WHY WAS THERE A WHALE IN D4

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Gg my gems

late tiger
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d4 is diamond?

charred quail
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thumbsup . She did not have vigor equipped

stone heart
charred quail
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Quick question, i remember rail saying to run standard anti nuke when seeing a nayuta.

does standard anti nuke mean anti nuke without biscuit?

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nvm. found rail's msg

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the anti nuke run standard

noise rumani cindy helmt noah
or
moran anisTT cindy helmt noah

fair pivot
onyx scaffold
ionic rose
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what a guy, made it to top 64

shell hazel
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I considered stacking 4 teams and putting crow on her own team lol

ionic rose
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is crown good now in pvp?

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I woulda put Crow in solo

shell hazel
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umm yeah lol I meant crow

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fixed 🙂

ionic rose
cedar sorrel
ionic rose
cedar sorrel
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Yeah, pretty sad oversight

arctic jewel
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and he just simply doesn't give a shit about being in 1st place

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just chills in 3rd or whatever

ionic rose
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i mean top 3 has the same rewards

arctic jewel
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this is the first time I see him in top 64 however

ionic rose
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i literally have open defense teams hoping people would atk me in sp

ionic rose
arctic jewel
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I absolutely can't do that

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otherwise I'll get a migraine against 1 specific annoying player

ionic rose
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its kinda boring and i cant test my teams, I currently run 4 nikkes on 2 teams and the 3rd team being solo Crow and only 1 guy has noticed me but he cant beat meBA_Ibuki_Pout

arctic jewel
ionic rose
arctic jewel
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Yupp, 3rd

arctic jewel
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That's the main reason

ionic rose
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i see, u f2p?

arctic jewel
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No, I whale a little bit

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Especially pulls

ionic rose
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yeah as long as ur in top 3 it doesnt matter since u get 3k gems anyway

arctic jewel
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More pulls (and crates from events) the better

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I do sometimes buy credit boxes from the common shop if they're 40% off

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Because I always run out with those

ionic rose
#

i run out of credits too, cores are keeping up somehow

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also i currently have 666 gems so i need help

arctic jewel
ionic rose
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these are pretty fun tho, when i get stressed i look at those

versed mesa
versed mesa
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I could never

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Just tolerating the red dot and not caving to brick my Centi is taking so much willpower everyday KEKL

ionic rose
#

u be terrified of my home screen, i also only do 1 tribe tower level a day, except for tetra and pilgrim i do 3/3.

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but seriously Missilis need more nikkes the standard banner wishlist gonna be clogged at this rate

versed mesa
#

I understand on some level the normal tribe tower and not doing it all, since it is always open, but not doing manu when they have limited uptime, that I don't get

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I'm mad just thinking of the early days especially with Elysion tower being so far behind because they had no good dps units so I am still far behind Missilis and Tetra.

tropic summit
ionic rose
versed mesa
charred quail
unique wagon
stone heart
#

Gah, i wish there s feature to use union member nikke to help campaign like other games ... My resource sucked by PVP nikke 😅

hollow lagoon
#

That would be cool

charred quail
versed mesa
gaunt bane
stone heart
versed mesa
charred quail
tropic summit
charred quail
gaunt bane
#

Both? As in both biscuit and RH?

tropic summit
charred quail
gaunt bane
#

I was gonna suggest ada but I think your ada might have similar issue also BurninKek

charred quail
#

biscuit still got the indom after i put vigor on her

gaunt bane
#

Core diff is such a whale problem KEKW

charred quail
#

@tropic summit does getting vigor to 15 unbrick this problem?

charred quail
#

core diff guys

urban wave
#

Hey all, I was wondering if I could get help with spa. I broke top 7 and got the 2700 gem reward past season and I want to know if it would be possible for me to break top 3 or if I would have just been pulling my hair out unnecessarily

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These rankings are pretty static

versed mesa
charred quail
charred quail
gaunt bane
gaunt bane
versed mesa
urban wave
gaunt bane
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Like, its possible to win them but you just cant hold it

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And there will be multiple ppl hitting you

charred quail
ionic rose
tidal lichen
#

but most ppl arent really interested in minmaxing dmg

gaunt bane
charred quail
#

effect maxes at level 7?

gaunt bane
#

Yes

charred quail
#

i dont have a level 15 cube

versed mesa
#

Yeah the extra levels are mainly for the slots and base stats/cp increase

charred quail
#

what's the flat hp for level 15?

resilience and bastion at level 13

gaunt bane
#

Wdym you dont, what about your resil

urban wave
#

Oh man, this is embarrassing. Just lost this battle. Would my t3 be better here?

charred quail
urban wave
glad meteor
gaunt bane
#

Mine is at lv13 as well so I cant tell you sadge

glad meteor
#

Post full team

gaunt bane
#

He has a max core diff

urban wave
#

Team 2

versed mesa
glad meteor
#

Supporters have higher hp than attackers naturally

urban wave
charred quail
gaunt bane
#

Sr doll biscuit might help lol

charred quail
#

do i do sr15?

glad meteor
#

Yeah. I make pvp units naturally sr5 pepehmmm

charred quail
#

or just calculate before i do it?

gaunt bane
#

Sr5 for the damage reduction

versed mesa
#

Mine are all SR15 pain

gaunt bane
#

Biscuit is not part of your jackal link, so i dont think calculating hp helps

charred quail
#

wait, biscuit is lb2 not core 0

gaunt bane
#

But yea sr5 doll might help since shes just catching stray shots from P4

charred quail
#

what happens if i put the doll on her and im still getting the same issue?

gaunt bane
#

Take it in the rear ig KEKW

versed mesa
#

Doll stats don't scale with synchro, or do they? Never had to check

gaunt bane
#

Flat stat iirc

glad meteor
versed mesa
#

I'm looking at an SR5, it has 149950 HP

gaunt bane
#

Yea thats the same amount I get

versed mesa
#

SR0 94000 and an SR15 is 300k

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Don't have an R15 to check how much that is

gaunt bane
#

147250 for R15

static valley
#

Slightly less than SR5

versed mesa
#

No 2k more, but that is barely anything

charred quail
#

i calculated and red hood still has less hp even with level 7 vigor 💀

versed mesa
#

I'll see if I have anything between SR5 and 10

gaunt bane
#

You might just forget about indom on swha BurninKek

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Or shelf redhood, but that still leaves biscuit problem

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Vesti indom might have issue with moran so thats tough

versed mesa
#

SR6 is 163250, so 13300 more than SR5

charred quail
tidal lichen
charred quail
#

anything i can do to fix? or just use a diff unit? 💀

gaunt bane
#

Need mr. railtracer BurninKek

versed mesa
charred quail
#

he went to sleep

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think i bricked pvp somewhat with the whaling cause i didnt understand pvp previously

gaunt bane
#

You have more limited team comps to work with for sure

cedar sorrel
#

How big is hp diff

versed mesa
#

My redhood is bricked, kind of because she has really high base attack, but only one atk roll, so she won't get jackal link because of that. I could roll for more atk lines, but hard to find the rocks, when I need more for SR

gaunt bane
#

Max core vs core 1 diff

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Im guessing about 10% hp diff

cedar sorrel
#

Cuz like so long u give vigor even if theres an hp diff it usually doesnt matter as much

gaunt bane
#

So vigor cant fix that

cedar sorrel
#

The indom target will be jackal linked

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And take dmg

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So they end up below quite easily still

gaunt bane
#

What are you talking about, they're all linked so they take the same damage

cedar sorrel
#

His biscuit is linked?

gaunt bane
#

No

cedar sorrel
#

Then whats the problem

gaunt bane
#

We're talking his other linked target, be it RH or Ada

charred quail
#

biscuit with swha is doomed

versed mesa
#

We were talking about Fish KEKW I was just saying that my RH is also bricked but for a different reason

gaunt bane
#

Biscuit might just stay ahead with sr5 doll and stay in P4, this one harder to tell

charred quail
#

give her doll for science?

cedar sorrel
#

She should be purple doll anyway

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Not like u lose anythibg for doing it

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But I dont think bisc will misindom much if u give vigor

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And make sure p4

gaunt bane
#

Well he lose a purple doll, assuming he have something in mind for that lol

cedar sorrel
#

Ig for pve yeah

gaunt bane
charred quail
#

was keeping it for solo raid

charred quail
cedar sorrel
#

It could happen if u run it into like swha

charred quail
#

does that mean i need to core 7 all future dps?

gaunt bane
#

Yea idk, cant really spare much purple dolls nowadays

gaunt bane
cedar sorrel
#

Otherwise p4 bisc is safe

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So just keep in mind I guess

charred quail
#

p4 so biscuit gets killed to not let her get indom?

gaunt bane
#

Tho im in c1 at least for this rotation so I dont have to worry too much about pvp for another month or so BurninKek

cedar sorrel
#

P4 is "safest" position in pvp

gaunt bane
#

P4 take the least damage

cedar sorrel
#

P1-3 get chipped from RLs and stuff and obv p1 is main targeted

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P5 gets pressured from SG or SR depending on atk or def

gaunt bane
#

P5 get shotgunned

cedar sorrel
#

So p4 is safest

gaunt bane
#

Ah yea sniped when you're defending too

cedar sorrel
#

But swha ignores and hits everyone I think evenly

charred quail
#

i think i got bricked from whaling. Whales but didnt know how to whale. the reason is cause i didnt understand pvp until rail started teaching

cedar sorrel
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So if ur bisc is lower hp than indom target swha will cause misindom whicb defo sucks

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Relegates it to atk only

cedar sorrel
versed mesa
#

Fish how many max cores do you have, if you don't mind me asking? Don't have to say if you don't want to just curious

charred quail
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lol

gaunt bane
#

Could remove cube on swha but idk how much that would help

cedar sorrel
#

Or well at the very leats swha will only be a batery on indom

charred quail
versed mesa
#

Just all max cores @charred quail

cedar sorrel
#

U can still do jackal tvesti swha blanc rumani or something

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Just have ur last battery be a defender so no misindoms

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I usually use centi cuz shes most built for me and has more HP than my atkers

charred quail
cedar sorrel
#

Rh swha indom isnt that common anyway no

cedar sorrel
#

I usually only run it for atk

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To beat moran noah things

charred quail
cedar sorrel
#

He told u to run it all the time or what

charred quail
#

he told me that those are the standard indoms

versed mesa
versed mesa
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I have 37 but they are over half day 1 Nikke's KEKW

cedar sorrel
#

Huh I didnt know it was that common

charred quail
cedar sorrel
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I guess this is for atking tho

charred quail
#

attacking translates to defense building no?

cedar sorrel
#

No

charred quail
#

only difference is sniper and shotgun

cedar sorrel
#

Sure but thats not the point really

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An atk team u build to counter a team that u see

#

Common things can work

charred quail
# cedar sorrel No

i been told based on my notes 1. super mega cp gap is ideal, 2nd best is 3 strong teams. The secret 3rd option is to abandon 1 team and make 2 mega teams

cedar sorrel
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Like how rail said biscuitless moran noah stuff rh swha indom works well

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But a defense team u make to cover as much ground as possible

urban wave
cedar sorrel
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Hopefully force people to use certain units somewhere so they cant easily crack another

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Or bait them into thinking they need to use a noah somewhere when it isnt needed

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And change when it gets broken

placid bloom
#

attacking doesn't translate most of the time TimiProud there are certain things you can only use on attack like SGs because your opponent left themselves open to it

charred quail
tidal lichen
cedar sorrel
placid bloom
#

they do not have a good enough matchup spread to be used on defense

cedar sorrel
#

Its like playing tag if ur the one whos running gameplay is a lot diff compared to when ur the one tagging

placid bloom
#

defense is just big AoE + defensive tool to make sure your AoE resolves

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you get to use more specialized stuff for attacking

cedar sorrel
#

Scarlet trina is still a good atk team cuz some defs dont accomodate for it

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But as a def team its a sore hole in ur def cuz label and others can very easily counter it

charred quail
#

do i ask rail for help with this issue? i think he'll just say to whale more

versed mesa
#

I kill stuff with Scarlet all the time still

cedar sorrel
#

So that wouldnt "translate"

versed mesa
#

Even supposed counters because my Scarlet team is so fast KEKL

cedar sorrel
#

Atk u just make sure u can beat exactly the team ur wanting to beat

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Can do whatever u want u see exactly what u need to beat and ur job is solving the puzzle

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Def is just making ur own puzzle and hope people cant solve. Obv thats a bit different

charred quail
#

how would i learn defense team building? all ive been doing with rail rn is learning attack

cedar sorrel
#

Core things stay the same ofc but if u want ur puzzle to be hard to solve u need to cover a lot of things at once to make it tricky to solve

placid bloom
#

I mean you always have 1 Blanc team and 1 Noah team, the third team is where you are allowed to be creative

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Nayuta is the most common because people actually build her

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and she's not gonna tank your CP into the ground

cedar sorrel
#

Yeah usually u want those teams to be 2rl as well otherwise they become abusable

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Opponent knows the speed they can just make something faster and usually beat it

urban wave
cedar sorrel
#

If u want to learn def in pins theres a "standard spa def" list

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Since u know how to atk a bit now and how to beat these teams

#

U can basically think to urself
If I make these 3 teams how would my opps beat it. Which would they skip and how'd they tackle the rest

urban wave
charred quail
cedar sorrel
#

Usually they skip indom so then ur noah and 3rd team needs to have overlap so it becomes hard to crack

cedar sorrel
#

Noah is a burst 2 and so is blanc

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U cant run both unless u want noah to be a battery or blanc to be uselesd

urban wave
#

Noah gives invulnerable so you can't be killed

charred quail
#

i mean i guess attack doesnt matter that much cause there's multiple variations. i just run a team similiar to the notes rail gave me

cedar sorrel
#

Yeah and blanc give indom

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So thats indom

urban wave
placid bloom
#

depending on your rank you have a lot of options for team 3 tbh, I even used SG with some success on defense for a long time because a lot of people didn't understand how it works TimiProud problem is once they figure it out, it's a pretty bad team

cedar sorrel
#

Theyre both top of pvp meta and used all the time for ur teams

versed mesa
cedar sorrel
#

But in something like rookie blanc is arguably better as a def

placid bloom
#

Jackal is 50/50, there is a chance their link dies after being unlinked

urban wave
placid bloom
#

the more consistent counter is Biscuit defender or Nayuta

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ofc Nayuta also has to not have her indom dispelled

cedar sorrel
urban wave
versed mesa
placid bloom
#

Rosanna unlinks

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that's the entire point of SG team

cedar sorrel
#

The invulrn lasts for 3s iirc so a proper buffed indom that lasts for 10s will stay alive and kill the team

cedar sorrel
#

Indom is essentially just a powered zombie that just shoots for 10 seconds

urban wave
placid bloom
#

you are bursting Anis instead of Noah pepehmmm

cedar sorrel
#

U either wanna stop them from getting the indom off / misindom or stall out the buffed zombie.usually not easy to do

versed mesa
placid bloom
#

burst go left to right

tidal lichen
#

anis is probably dying before b2 but enemy still has indom

urban wave
#

Yes I have anis as clip rl and cannon fodder

placid bloom
#

tbh depending on enemy Vesti your Noah might be dead too Crown_OwO

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p3 into Vesti is cooked

cedar sorrel
#

Vesti splashes a lot yeag

urban wave
placid bloom
#

Vesti 4 shots land before you can B2 on 0 cs team

cedar sorrel
#

So she ends up chipping p1 to p3

placid bloom
#

if she has enough ele, she can 4 tap you before you cast

tidal lichen
#

more like p1 to p5 if you place noah p3

placid bloom
#

if she's fat enough she won't even need all 4 shots to land

#

3 shot can kill

cedar sorrel
urban wave
#

2.5 rl too slow?

cedar sorrel
#

Noah taunt

versed mesa
#

I was gonna say why is no one saying that Noah taunts? KEKL

urban wave
#

What should my team order be?

cedar sorrel
#

I have an excuse I only unlocked noah 4 days ago

placid bloom
#

doesn't matter, you are not running Noah into Blanc to begin with

placid bloom
#

you don't win that matchup

cedar sorrel
placid bloom
#

even if they don't have Vesti

urban wave
#

How to counter blanc?

versed mesa
#

Yes because indom only goes on 1 Nikke

#

Doesn't matter if the rest die aslong as the indomed dpses you down before indom ends

urban wave
#

Is it because Noah invuln does t last long enough?

placid bloom
#

I mean I would just kill Blanc before she can cast but Idk what you have built Crown_OwO

urban wave
#

Oh so I use an rl instead to dps p5 => force indom p5?

placid bloom
#

they put her in a pretty easy position to kill

urban wave
#

How to kill blanc p3? That's an inconvenient position for me. I know they don't have biscuit though

placid bloom
#

I'd do this but there are ways to do it without Scar counter as long as your Vesti fat enough pepehmmm

#

Nayuta is just for insurance tbh

charred quail
#

issue is solved if i take off swha cube, get vigor to level 7 and biscuit to sr15?

placid bloom
charred quail
#

hp on biscut is similiar to red hood

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i calculated and swha would have less hp than red hood if i take cube off

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and have vigor at level 7

unique wagon
#

SPONSOR NAME CHANGE

charred quail
#

r15 right now on biscuit

placid bloom
#

Biscuit HP doesn't matter though pepehmmm

unique wagon
placid bloom
#

she's not linked

unique wagon
#

u hit other teams

placid bloom
#

unless you are just hoping she takes less damage overall in p3 than your links

#

which is not consistent

#

1 crit could ruin it TimiProud

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last thing you want is Blanc to indom Biscuit

glad meteor
#

Moran noah biscuit helm and just prayge tank
libby_doro 💨

charred quail
glad meteor
unique wagon
#

blanc anis helm:

placid bloom
#

SWHA is taking 1/3rd damage in p2 if you have links in p4 p5

charred quail
#

right now biscuit is getting indom even when i put vigor on her

placid bloom
#

you taking out RH?

charred quail
#

no. red hood issue is solved when i get vigor to leel 7 and remove cube on swha

placid bloom
#

there is no chance of Biscuit getting indom in p4

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unless all your links literally die

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nothing does that much damage to p4 pre-B2

charred quail
#

u are saying the actual hp is who gets indom, not the total?

placid bloom
#

whoever has the lowest HP at the current time in battle

placid bloom
#

when Blanc casts

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since your p2 and p3 are taking damage, they will have lower HP than p4

charred quail
unique wagon
#

i need context

stone heart
placid bloom
#

if Blanc chose target at start of battle for indom we would not have this much issue Crown_OwO

unique wagon
charred quail
placid bloom
unique wagon
#

Give Biscuit doll and dupes

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OL and level her HP gear

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Then tempering, not vigor

placid bloom
#

if Blanc chose target at start of battle there would be a lot of issues TimiProud

#

what if that target died

unique wagon
#

Doll + tempe give nice dmg reduc

#

ure likely fighting against SWHA that hits everyone

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Biscu in P4 wont save misindom if shes undolled at all

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and if she isn't OLed or have dupes

tidal lichen
unique wagon
tidal lichen
#

hi

tidal lichen
#

yours is above mine on my screen.

unique wagon
tidal lichen
#

how does one eep

charred quail
#

ima go put her in the wislist rn

#

@unique wagon get biscuit to sr15?

stone heart
unique wagon
#

it's literally 12% DR

#

u literally only spend 1 doll

slate trench
#

what is abbreviation of ttanis?

#

also, is there a way to kill blanc in any SW teams?

#

not sure why my teams cant kill overheal noise and rapunzel

cedar sorrel
#

Tt anis is the overspec one

#

People call it whatever but anistt or anistar are quite common

#

I just say aniss

placid bloom
#

I just say Anis because who still using base Anis Crown_OwO

cedar sorrel
#

True also

placid bloom
#

if you using her you grief

cedar sorrel
#

But I think can cause some misunderstandings

versed mesa
#

I meant to go to bed like 2 hours ago yet here I still lurk CrownHUH

cedar sorrel
#

With neon I dont say anything cuz never has neon been good until now lol

placid bloom
#

wym, I used Neon in my early CA days clueless

cedar sorrel
#

Epic battery heh

placid bloom
#

we were so starved for batteries on new player bracket

#

Neon and Product 23 carrying

cedar sorrel
#

Crazy work

#

Neonv with her gigantic rocket and firepower being outgenned by sad old neon with a sg

vestal wigeon
#

I just finished throwing a decent amount of rocks at vesti, who do I shuffle around to put her in my defense team? these are my current teams

quaint granite
cedar sorrel
#

3ol r10

#

Just waiting for blue maint kits and gear exp

#

Then I can get at least 4ol sr5

quaint granite
#

noice

glad meteor
#

@shell hazel maybe you see my name in lowest clears around here. Did a little trolling heh

#

46-38 was fun hmmz

minor egret
glad meteor
#

Reached egovista. The fun ends

minor egret
glad meteor
hidden mortar
#

@minor egret he hit me 30 mins ago, is he attacking you?

hidden mortar
minor egret
#

You want to negate one hit of the sword combo in the second phase with Crown shield so that's one less Mast at 3 stacks with Neon but a 2 stacks Cindy instead

minor egret
hidden mortar
#

oh

#

rip. I hit him lol.

#

eh whatever, extra 100 gems for him to burn

minor egret
#

He just attacked once so far

#

Think yesterday he was -500. I lost count at this point but he should have spent more than he's earning already

hidden mortar
#

yea he's spent about 3k in total i think

#

and he just claimed his points

minor egret
#

Surely he's about to give up

hidden mortar
#

I'm still ahead lmao

minor egret
#

We must be living in his head at this point Smugthy

hidden mortar
#

good Doro

minor egret
#

This bracket is so toxic lol

#

But hey he started it

glad meteor
#

It’s late now deadge

minor egret
#

Kinda hard at 621 to be honest. This was my OLs for it back then and it was the lowest clear on the server at that time but I'm sure you can get it with less power. No real point to rush it because it doesn't give an outpost level but it's fun

hidden mortar
#

everyone else is normal

minor egret
#

why is he not normal like everyone else sadge

#

I'm surprised I won that round with Lib bursting, was a close one

glad meteor
#

libby_doro💨💨

#

My neon only 85 ele lol

minor egret
#

I finished her since, now with 14% CS and 40% atk neonheh

#

Anis 104/44

#

Just get lucky

glad meteor
#

Its that easy

minor egret
#

It's so simple

glad meteor
hidden mortar
#

you're telling the guy who spent 700+ pulls on anis to get 1 copy and 4 total ssrs to get lucky?

minor egret
#

It is what it is YuniDeadInside

glad meteor
hidden mortar
#

and then mephy pulled 10 of her in front of my face

tame vessel
#

@raven plover my vesti actually defeated the swha after lowered the ammo from 14 to 12 KEKW

hidden mortar
minor egret
#

I'll take bad luck on pulls for good luck on lines everyday

#

rocks > gems

hidden mortar
minor egret
#

put some efforts into it, I believe in you

umbral crown
#

@jagged mesa birbliterhmm

#

C10 quit a month ago and still nobody has taken his spot yet... people too comfy here

quick lake
stone heart
umbral crown
swift mango
#

What die to what? hmmz

#

Did you read my comment it's a win so long as they happened like I said

swift mango
#

Libby wipe is to not trigger biscuit on Anis. She would just die doing nothing.

Vesti indom vs privaty indom could be a lose though.

umbral crown
minor egret
#

Maiden ended up getting the indom for me and Moran finished both Anis and Maiden but it was scary

mystic rain
#

cant use blanc or noah

jagged mesa
mystic rain
#

grim asking how to beat anis blanc bisc without blanc noah or bisc or even jackal cuz id presum theyre used on other teams

#

ur not wrong abt lib nuke tho but issue is whos ur b2

#

need to be someone who doesnt proc invul on anis p1

minor egret
mystic rain
#

maybe triple sniper but u dont have helm

minor egret
#

Probably not work without a 15% gap though YeowTimi

mystic rain
#

wait i thought u cant use moran

#

shes in thr list

minor egret
#

I could. Noise Rumani Noah for round 2 and AnisTT Blanc Biscuit for round 1

#

Moran is my savior prayge

mystic rain
#

:///

umbral crown
swift mango
#

Anis so stronkhmmz

mystic rain
#

is enemy in deficit

#

im surprised blanc didnt get invul pre burst

minor egret
#

Duel of the SSS electric B1

pure moss
#

what's the difference? 1 rock to 0 rock ig

covert lintel
swift mango
covert lintel
olive shore
#

I cooked up something like this for SPA, prioritizing getting a doll for Rumani currently at least.. Burgar

charred quail
hidden mortar
#

@minor egret I'm getting some peace. Nayuta and the noise CA frame guy haven't been able to beat my new defense

#

so its only the scar psycho to deal with

minor egret
#

I'll try sending them smoke signals so they attack him instead

#

Maybe they're trying but failing

hidden mortar
#

nayuta maybe but i doubt the other guy can't win

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he's pretty good at team building

umbral crown
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covert lintel
tame vessel
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why u want a pile of dust

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crystal flicker
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I haven't login for a while, feels good to not fkin mald

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Imagine malding

bold trout
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Who should i replace?

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bold trout
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idk you just ask who to replace

tame vessel
mystic rain
bold trout
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everyone running blanc 1 noah 2 nayu 3 like pls can we change ts

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so not even have Anis

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f******* whale

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