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Oh
Not for long as usual 
trust the process
Rosy
if we get close to Nikunny you'll join CULTISTS right? D:
I ended up third in mine, I died right away owari da
I'm not even in nikunny
just the casual sister union
kunnyhub
Me not whale/high sync enough
diff union but same question 😄
we're 86th kunnyhub 64th
we need more good commanders to charge forth
I like where I am tbh lol
I'm in NIKG and I know a bunch of kunnies 
oh I was trying to find you guys the other day
All are very special huh 
The C2 in my bracket is from NIKG 
Who is it? 
FOSH
wtf you guys got a GIGACHAD too? https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtMzQ0Nzc0OTE5MDg4NzQ0NDMzMA==
what your IGN Grim?
Easier with ID
I'm the bottom line 
Btw that website with the UR data was weird because it's much more than you could get of blabla with the other method
Too many 
user id from in game yep?
Like they have the time, the dupes, etc.
blabla does not show that I've never seen it
dupes I can actually get
time as well probably
I can't get the in game id
I can do most of what the rip site does except for in game id
I have union data for top 3% ish but it's 500 or so unions
Now it's public they have to look into it 
they will fix the loophole no doubt
as it's a loophole
I didn't publish anything someone else did
hooplole
indeed :0
I have a hunch that last minute snipe prevention will fail today 
what an odd list
Lost too much karma by passing advance in ca
snipe this
Only good thing about our bracket with Pleb is there's zero sniping before reset
I wish the dude who started sniping me would just take my spot while I sleep, he could probably get enough to pass C3 that way and I could keep my sanity 
I'll take some sniping over the guy who spend gems to attack again and again. God he's probably already at -4k this season and it started like 3 days ago
I never gem in arena anymore, pointless and waste of gems
It's not worth it, it's just ego
If you want to spend gems this bad you do wipe outs to level faster but it's a long term plan
Ah the sniperino is idling again, status stopped updating
He's preparing his shot
that's unfortunate
need to change then
Any tips to beat them?
Both my and the snipers free tickets are gone. Changed defense, now the ball is in his corner, will he gem or not?
If he is like I used to be in this situation, he is grinding his teeth, but will not 
The guy in my union who I thought quit since he hasn't logged in for over 11 days just logged in 
Guess this is rookie def team is really catching on 
Biscuit gacha skin next month surely 
I started using that like a week ago (for attacking)
my defense is still level 1 units
my rival uses a similar team but with blanc instead nayuta
it do be like that tho
He gone cookig 
Woah chips
Yeah
The infamous whiffed indom strike again
My quantum, bastion, resi are all 5, rest 2-3, u think its worth getting temp to 5? Rn my noise and noah use that cube as p1
Opponent didn't snipe with gems. A true person of honor 
Well.. That didn't last...
I haven't been attacked in a while by #3, I thought he was gonna aim for me after he got the star trail title and got a massive boost, but nothing yet
anyone knows if anis star shots have aoe or single target?
Might be like mine, just wants the 3k gems
Fine chilling at C3 aslong as C4 doesn't go above him too much.
He usually sits at 3 too, but he likes to use his 2 free attacks everyday
The guy at #5 has the most cp out of everyone but he never attacks
Kinda weird but ok
aoe, before she cast burst she does hit p1-`p3 but after she cast B1 she does all units
Ah man Ziz in Tetra tower. Thank frick that the manu specific bosses are nerfed compared to non 
8k health bars but just melted anyway
Lol same in mine
He did two attacks right after shuffle but when he was overtaken back to 5th, he hasn't moved once
Well I went past him in CP but he is in one of the main big unions so he gets better pve rewards than most.
The highest synchro player just sits in C10, even though he could probably contend for top 3.
Or he just has high synchro but hasn't build any pvp units
@tropic summit
Not requesting help today but…it seems our little sniping experiment last time caused a shift in Challengers for my bracket. That Viper has been getting punched down, while the other one was knocked down to D1.
The C10 is seemingly not caring to go further but the 11 position might decide it is time to climb up.
can I please stop getting Nana in my bracket 64 bracket...
So… is this like a godlike comp?
prob this @tropic summit for alturia for me
Y'all ever had someone hate you so much they spent two days worth of arena chips attacking you?
Yes
Lol yeah,I do that, but until I beat them with my comp
All 10 chips on my ass 
look for videos of chisato runs, so you know if you actually wanna bother malding with that
I built chisato a bit anyway, worse case I keep syncing until I get it done
I won't build takina as well
601 clear or bend
Actually built Chisato for Altruia 
601 and I can't go further?
keep poking at ch8-ch9 like we did before, you can get enough points to go into ch rank reward
wait her autos have range 3?
I MLB her for a reason anyway I had to build a bit
Mlem her 
@shell hazel

time to build ZweiT for Ultra 
Really? Alright then, we could try next reset. Today’s a rather lousy day and I am going to be busy on top of it
yeah, like vesti
The pvp student has returned. It's time to use the 2 hits for knowledge
SR?
Mine ady built. Yeah. I forgot she has cover repair
Hello Again
May I get some help to counter these teams?
Mmm maybe next time, I'll keep using Miranda. Not like I'll get better than 0.5%
Really hurts to open a pilgrim mold just to... this...
I stopped doing tower deadge
Libby or 4 beast
This is my jackal, Defense is useful? Or not? I don’t see defense as a recommended skill anywhere for nikkes
yep...
I mean it's blue line for CP pad 
her stat don't really matter outside charge speed
and your charge speed pretty good
Def is good for padding, extra stats
everything else is extra
power padding, the higher the better
surely defense scaling dps soon 
Leblanc wise?
Isn't it ok on Moran?
it's alright on Moran, but she actually does okay damage in PvE to Atk ele better 
None of the guides explain how to build blanc wise equipment wise
She doesn't need specific lines but a vigor cube
there's not enough rock income to spend on support unit tbh
most people don't even reroll past initial OL
She's here for her kit, I left mine with base rolls
you just hope she don't start with 1 line 
I never really bothered filling the empty lines in pvp. Never enough rocks for all modes
@tidal lichen evil
sana ol
Damn. I’m too nub

631 yet not top50 

youre full 
power of religion
🫃
I can finally play pvp
You have noah 
we'll have 1 spot I think
Pretty sure my noah still 0lb
Soon I can use her tho
I was about to ask when you got her
don't think people can change union until tomorrow reset anyway
It was hype af
Dec 1st 2023. Only one. Not a whel like @rich quail
I still remember back then when I was Noahless and had to rely on old Moran but my burst gen suffered heavily from it
Ive been using my 2ol bay and was in the midst of OLing noise but then I got her
Im just completely out of blue mats so shes staying r10 for a bit
Half baked investments, give your nikkes more love 

Okay I will
@shell hazel thought? im the f2p guy in the pic
How did you even ran out of blue? 
U use blue to level dolls
Can someone please explain to me about Label... Isn't she supposed to get invulnerability for 10 seconds after burst (if she has her shield and bursts)? Because it didn't work for me and I'm sitting here, trying to figure it out.
if interested we'd be glad to have you!
He's poaching 
you make it to top 64 Reith?
No.
shame 🙁
I don't think Sanaol really have a discord/chat? at least from what Kricoun said
definitely possible, but let me stay a bit more with sanaol
sure - we'll be recruiting a spot anyway I think - so will be first come first served

If your union doesn't Diesel every day in chat it's time to look for another one 
we mainly want good players who can min max a bit, even f2p is fine
Truth is most players never switch because they're usually too comfy where they are
sanaol was just behind us by 1 rank last UR
but looking at the data was some heavy hitters and slackers
our average is better just less high syncs
cultists is a mary union
wait I thought we were a nayuta union?
I tried smary in sb

Survived but couldnt step 2 
anyway whoever winds up joining us gets a free subscription service to rail pvp cooking

(rail doesn't know this yet)
7:7:1 mod. Not even 4 ele. Asuka only 2 ele. Giga poop

Just be like us. No discord and a bunch of wild cards = top 30ish
needs high sync players who have a reasonable idea of what to do
Or like us! No discord and I and a handful of others are the only ones who push at all 
You'll be surprised how many times I saw someone confuse the rapture code for the weakness with the current UI
yup we saw that too
I made like a whole team of the same element then I saw weakness was something else and I was like oooh
Also the new regroup thing is there, pick the wrong team, you can just switch
True thats huge
I always mock first though
Yeah same
NIKG not on blabla can't see average sync but it's probably quite high up
Except with mace I had a nice wind team for him then I did some mocks after I already hit 2 others and realised mace destroys me
to hit 2.26T damage
641+
I had to run helmT on burst + iframe so I didnt die 
lowest is barely 400 I think
yup
Ours is 252 
all the old boss murder low sync, I love near undodgeable machine gun and laser 
URHM is quite miserable at lower sync, I experienced it with an alt and even then I wasn't high sync enough when it started so I was getting bullied
you can't do much until you nearing 400 sync imo
I joined some random Union on super low alt, can't even hit a billion 
Honestly as long as you clear normal day 1 and you're not top 100 hard mode barely matter
we pushing some because what else we gonna do?
25 chip diff 
gotta fight for it
I fully realise top 100 barely does anything 😄
That max core Nihilister is not going to pay itself
but we fight a bit for it as we can
lv15 tempering not paying for itself 
It's more fun when you have a rival union in your range
I actually bought more tempering batteries today
Level 10 after reset
I saw a CA template recently who was using 11 tempering cubes. Time to invest more ⛏️
I'm actually saving my chips in the eventually they managed to release a good cube or have the idea to raise the level cap to 20
anyway to improve rookie arena attack or is just the higher cp the better?
pretty sure every cube has been getting worse
how we getting cover cube 3 years into the game

the only cube that can save the game is cdr cube

I'm convinced at this point it's just to bloat so you get less of the good ones from solo raid 
imo they need to change how cubes work
let us slot as many as we want, but cube level is the thing we upgrade
CP start to do something a bit after 15% difference in power. As for your attacking team it depends the comps you're facing but your Little Mermaid in position 1 is very exposed and if she dies you can't burst anymore
There are many things they should change 
Will they? NAH
there is still some filler cube they need to go through anyway
can't wait for 4.66% crit dmg cube 
It's really just the values being too low for most
nope
What 10% true damage is going to do
alright tribe tower 1061
Small indie company. Changes cost money 
nah we can't do that - you wanna buy some skins though?
destruction actually alright value
just can't use it on 95% of boss
They also completely gave up on designing lost sectors
"We even added a nip slip to this one! You can look at the pixels!"
Destruction is good when you can use it but it's the effects like resilience or bastion who are hard to top
where?
At least pvp have some variety

I haven't touched Destruction cube at all, does it actually have worth on anything? Especially since I have max level resi and bast?
I'm kind of sad about lost sectors
It's situational and probably not worth it if you're not turbo competiting in pve
I miss my lost sector OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1izkgmfboM&list=RDy1izkgmfboM
Provided to YouTube by GENIE MUSIC
Recursion · LEVEL NINE · Crayvxn
Lost Sector Battle Section (Goddess of Victory: NIKKE Original Soundtrack)
℗ 2025 LEVEL NINE under licence to Genie Music Corporation
Released on: 2025-01-17
Composer: Crayvxn
Arranger: Crayvxn
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Summer Neon and Harran skin have the best poking nips 
their manpower diverted to making 2x2 and TTS

Confused on who to put for burst 2 for the p5 noah weak link anti nuke/glass cannon
This is the kind of music I love for some quick reaction time games.
this is Vesti not linked surely, I see 2 C7 
i went in shooting range and saw vesti linked
@umbral belfry Spotted 
It's true we're back in same CA bracket 

@umbral belfry you win 
nvm. that was with helm
i tested again with swha
link is on swha and vesti
hell yeah they took my lost sectors away 🙁
what's a 4 ele
I've never actually heard this song fully through. Definitely going to my car playlist 
it's my fav one
@umbral belfry-chan can I pick your brain in a comp?
Also reminds me of the stage music for Tekken 6
you need to say @umbral belfry -SAMA
🐐 music
Yeah it can be better on specific units like nayuta that dont really care about their ammo
Same composer did some songs for Nikke actually, AJURIKA
Or like lapT in tower MW
U usually would do if it ur neutral tho cuz the ele buffs high lvl cubes give are usually still better
Unless u got destruction at the same lvl too
It was used on Nayuta in a recent Mat H in UR but I think you need like level 10 minimum
Oh man really? I was suspecting as much since there are some beats that are so similar
This is the main one I know, not sure if there's more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzB0E9_OojA
If you like what I do consider supporting your local potato https://ko-fi.com/dexterouspotato
Thanks for watching!
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Soundtrack, OST, BGM "Wings of Victory" by Tekken composer AJURIKA & SAK.
Used in for battles in Chapter 18.
Added in the Hightech Toy Event update.
Nikke: OST
https://www.youtube.com/playlist...
Jackal link make my brain hurt sometimes
@tropic summit i am confused on who im putting for burst 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioKTlm7wFsE
hope they make a full season
カウンターズ部隊と指揮官が、初めて前哨基地を訪れたあの日…
ようやく一息つけると思いきや、“新しい家での初日”は予想外のハプニング続き!?💥
『勝利の女神:NIKKE』ショートアニメシリーズ「にけにち!のんのん前哨基地」より、「カウンター...
Not gonna keep posting more links so mods don't get antsy, but Queen's Harbor from Tekken 6 has very similar tempo and is from the same artist
Searching 'nikke ajurika' on youtube got me two more that are both Tekken-coded as hell.
Anime short series. No date for the next ones, just like JoJo 
Metal Acid sounds like a harder Electric Fountain, and Underwater Flowers sounds like a character customisation theme from one of them 
and no game no life s2 🙁
Underwater Flowers is so good I might actually make it lobby music
also kind of dig the ziz theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yc2RI6g2U0
Provided to YouTube by GENIE MUSIC
Ziz · LEVEL NINE · Cosmograph
From the Sky, From the Land III (Goddess of Victory: NIKKE Original Soundtrack)
℗ 2025 LEVEL NINE under licence to Genie Music Corporation
Released on: 2025-08-14
Composer: Cosmograph
Arranger: Cosmograph
Auto-generated by YouTube.
I'd get booted from this channel in a heartbeat if I started posting all the songs I love from this game 
Oh yeah Metal Acid sounds so similar to Electric Fountain 
I like how the music draws you into the fight even if you're repeating it for the 100th time lmao
This is why I wish TTS wasn't so damn made to hardcore rhythm gamers and new songs weren't locked behind paying. Would enjoy just casually playing while listening to the music 
Meanwhile the upcoming SR is getting this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyFM2r4I20M&list=RDUyFM2r4I20M 
Provided to YouTube by GENIE MUSIC
Daybreak [H.S.T.A] (Goddess of Victory: NIKKE Original Soundtrack) · LEVEL NINE · Cosmograph · Zekk
Daybreak [H.S.T.A] (Goddess of Victory: NIKKE Original Soundtrack)
℗ 2026 LEVEL NINE under licence to Genie Music Corporation
Released on: 2026-05-14
Composer: Cosmograph
Arranger: Zekk
Auto-generated ...
Oh, I think this is what my raid lead was alluding to
yeah this dude is not it
the CC remix is not that good either
Lets have a listen
well the CC one is a bit better than this at least
you just can't hear the lyrics cuz the volume is so low
For me a lot of the songs with actual vocals are so hit and miss.
It's sounds like a speedcore sound I'd have played on Osu 15 years ago 
Holy shit what is going on from 0:43
Yeah this is bad 
Breakcore attempt went wrong

I'll forgive him one crap one after the three and a half years worth of bangers we've gotten
I don't mind remixes but it should be on songs that need it
It sounds like dubstep at 0:43 
Oh nice, I knew my goat cosmo would never

thats me done for the week
It's the guy who made Mother Whale and Alteisen original songs
I actually didn't mind the fire CC song tbh
I shall
Wasn't as good as the OG
no it's not the same guy that made Moving Fortress
their name both start with Z but it's not the same guy
are you asking me how which teams are?

Less than me, thank heavens 
What? Both are Zekk 
@waxen mesa
I copied Zants teams but I miss both LETS GO AZX limiteds so I can't break step 20 
Well at this point it doesn't matter coz I blew both my attempts vs someone I beat yesterday. I lost with the only difference being that we both leveled up once. Oh well

Classic
I'm gonna see how far I've fallen from TTS ranks since I'm not buying the extra songs
my rank fake af anyway, it's almost all normal difficulty 
Still number one for my union, that is the only thing that counts 
Thoughts on cook? Any feedback pls. Ty
Mine is almost all casual 
0.8% huh, higher than I thought
I'm slowly working my way through hard, I have like 2 done and 2 that I feel like I can do but I keep choking 
you win = win in my books
I'm too old for the speed needed above normal 
Anything i could have done better rail number 2?
Barely can pass even the normal ones
I dunno I'm busy puzzling this wordle lol
I always change it
gotta get as many vowels out
whatever I feel like at the time

else it's not as fun
👍
Guess i wait for rail's response
@tropic summit
I start with house
thoughts on how to beat this? around 250k cp powergap 😭 1472 vs 1180
think I'm winning this one
Do I do it? 
1450, second highest: 705
Check mine. Oh...
They're still semi-active players in it but they're just enjoying their best lives collecting waifus
you probably older account me? if so those are super slackers lol
There is only a handful left in my server, but even the most active of them is 100 synchro behind me
I dunno when did you start your account? Me on Bay banner but I rerolled it at the end of Re:Collab so I'm not Emilia bricked
That's like 6 months after me
i never got this small cheer in my whole commander career
yeah so you more 1.5
As long as YOU believe in your nikkes you'll win 
believe in the nikkes that believe in you!
i target losing streak vote frame
Wth mine is perfectly 50%. People have too much faith in me
or they going for the loser cheer frame

More credits or a frame for losers, your choice
does 2.5rl scarlet team in CA with soda make sense?
soda seems to be linked with jackal
I'm sitting on so much credits atm, core dust lacking most
Sometimes I wonder what would have happened to this community if the credits bet system stayed 

i miss it. it gave me that extra gacha fix
I did very little with those, but ended up in the green before they scrapped it for the boxes 
Open all cases and all-in 🎰
Almost a year since my longest standing Nikke friend quit 
I haven't had the heart to remove him
d4 is diamond?
. She did not have vigor equipped
Prolly cheering for unlucky frame. Who know 😶🌫️🫥
Quick question, i remember rail saying to run standard anti nuke when seeing a nayuta.
does standard anti nuke mean anti nuke without biscuit?
nvm. found rail's msg
the anti nuke run standard
noise rumani cindy helmt noah
or
moran anisTT cindy helmt noah
If the tank can survive until burst then you don't need biscuit. Here a moran noah should do
i just noticed that my opponent was a big whale. it makes sense now
what a guy, made it to top 64
I considered stacking 4 teams and putting crow on her own team lol

Weak to SG pressure 
well yeah, only if bro had Pinne on P1, woulda been able to tank it
Yeah, pretty sad oversight
First one work well against
this guy is in my SP Arena server
and he just simply doesn't give a shit about being in 1st place
just chills in 3rd or whatever
i mean top 3 has the same rewards
this is the first time I see him in top 64 however
i literally have open defense teams hoping people would atk me in sp
hes got Anne pfp so hes got that Miracle Powa
oh? why?
I absolutely can't do that
otherwise I'll get a migraine against 1 specific annoying player
its kinda boring and i cant test my teams, I currently run 4 nikkes on 2 teams and the 3rd team being solo Crow and only 1 guy has noticed me but he cant beat me
i kinda prefer at least 1 guy that can beat me
Yupp, 3rd
Just want consistent rewards for upgrading my Nikkes
That's the main reason
i see, u f2p?
yeah as long as ur in top 3 it doesnt matter since u get 3k gems anyway
More pulls (and crates from events) the better
I do sometimes buy credit boxes from the common shop if they're 40% off
Because I always run out with those
i run out of credits too, cores are keeping up somehow
also i currently have 666 gems so i need help
Aaaack, so many speech bubbles!
these are pretty fun tho, when i get stressed i look at those
I don't even have ocd and this is triggering me 
I could never
Just tolerating the red dot and not caving to brick my Centi is taking so much willpower everyday 
u be terrified of my home screen, i also only do 1 tribe tower level a day, except for tetra and pilgrim i do 3/3.
but seriously Missilis need more nikkes the standard banner wishlist gonna be clogged at this rate
I understand on some level the normal tribe tower and not doing it all, since it is always open, but not doing manu when they have limited uptime, that I don't get
I'm mad just thinking of the early days especially with Elysion tower being so far behind because they had no good dps units so I am still far behind Missilis and Tetra.
enemy T1 was trash so not much to say
enemy T2 was good counter, as you neutralized noah pre burst
its just that i gotten so many Belortas and I cant Quick Battle the manu's made me feel lazy to do it. Except Tetra and Pilgrim since most of the PVP units are there
I see, I on the other hand attribute a lot of my dupes on just doing anything and everything everyday, sure there were plenty of Rs and SRs, but then that SSR would pop out 
picking the trash team is part of the skill?
Sending help
Gah, i wish there s feature to use union member nikke to help campaign like other games ... My resource sucked by PVP nikke 😅
That would be cool
Team 2 wrong indom?
Me carrying my entire union to HM clear
Unless they cap the levels based on the player borrowing them 
Ye, looks like your hp setup have issue
It would be better if someone use and you got some incentive for it
I get 20% of their clear rewards 
guess i cant red hood burst 1 cause core diff 💀
put vigor on RH, run the team in shooting range, pause, click on the 2 units, check HP
biscuit got the indom after i put vigor on both
Both? As in both biscuit and RH?
vigor on both? biscuit and RH?
yea cause biscuit was getting the indom after i put vigor only on red hood
I was gonna suggest ada but I think your ada might have similar issue also 
biscuit still got the indom after i put vigor on her
Core diff is such a whale problem 
Try calculating it
core diff guys
Hey all, I was wondering if I could get help with spa. I broke top 7 and got the 2700 gem reward past season and I want to know if it would be possible for me to break top 3 or if I would have just been pulling my hair out unnecessarily
These rankings are pretty static
Just get more cores 
does nikke.top calculate it?
red hood rerun is missing
No, but hp stats are visible so just calculate off that
Dont think you can hold top 3 with that cp diff
I think you are gapped by C3, are the C2 and C1 around the same or higher?
Yeah, the same or higher
Like, its possible to win them but you just cant hold it
And there will be multiple ppl hitting you
how much increase on level 15?
u can get top 4 for sure, but for top 3 u need 2 stacked Real pvp teams
we do
but most ppl arent really interested in minmaxing dmg
Got it, thanks
Iirc 9.9% or something at max skill rank. Cube flat hp itself can refer to your existing lv15 cube
effect maxes at level 7?
Yes
i dont have a level 15 cube
Yeah the extra levels are mainly for the slots and base stats/cp increase
what's the flat hp for level 15?
resilience and bastion at level 13
Wdym you dont, what about your resil
Oh man, this is embarrassing. Just lost this battle. Would my t3 be better here?
13
Do you have sr doll diff?
Mine is at lv13 as well so I cant tell you 
Post full team
He has a max core diff
Team 2
Supporters have higher hp than attackers naturally
Oh wait, you weren't talking to me
core 7 swha. core 1 red hood. core 0 biscuit. r15 biscuit. sr15 red hood. sr 15 swha

Sr doll biscuit might help lol
do i do sr15?
Yeah. I make pvp units naturally sr5 
or just calculate before i do it?
Sr5 for the damage reduction
Mine are all SR15 
Biscuit is not part of your jackal link, so i dont think calculating hp helps
But yea sr5 doll might help since shes just catching stray shots from P4
Doll stats don't scale with synchro, or do they? Never had to check
Flat stat iirc
Could also level up chest head leg 
I'm looking at an SR5, it has 149950 HP
Yea thats the same amount I get
147250 for R15
Slightly less than SR5
No 2k more, but that is barely anything
i calculated and red hood still has less hp even with level 7 vigor 💀
I'll see if I have anything between SR5 and 10
You might just forget about indom on swha 
Or shelf redhood, but that still leaves biscuit problem
Vesti indom might have issue with moran so thats tough
SR6 is 163250, so 13300 more than SR5
youre making vesti hit all 5 of your units
anything i can do to fix? or just use a diff unit? 💀
Need mr. railtracer 
I think the stat difference is just too high
he went to sleep
think i bricked pvp somewhat with the whaling cause i didnt understand pvp previously
You have more limited team comps to work with for sure
How big is hp diff
My redhood is bricked, kind of because she has really high base attack, but only one atk roll, so she won't get jackal link because of that. I could roll for more atk lines, but hard to find the rocks, when I need more for SR
Cuz like so long u give vigor even if theres an hp diff it usually doesnt matter as much
So vigor cant fix that
The indom target will be jackal linked
And take dmg
So they end up below quite easily still
What are you talking about, they're all linked so they take the same damage
His biscuit is linked?
No
Then whats the problem
We're talking his other linked target, be it RH or Ada
5071 vs 5080 red hood vs swha
biscuit with swha is doomed
We were talking about Fish
I was just saying that my RH is also bricked but for a different reason
Biscuit might just stay ahead with sr5 doll and stay in P4, this one harder to tell
She should be purple doll anyway
Not like u lose anythibg for doing it
But I dont think bisc will misindom much if u give vigor
And make sure p4
Well he lose a purple doll, assuming he have something in mind for that lol
Ig for pve yeah
It already happened thats why we're here talking
was keeping it for solo raid
it happened
It could happen if u run it into like swha
does that mean i need to core 7 all future dps?
Yea idk, cant really spare much purple dolls nowadays
Yes, checked his vid above, it is swha
p4 so biscuit gets killed to not let her get indom?
Tho im in c1 at least for this rotation so I dont have to worry too much about pvp for another month or so 
P4 is "safest" position in pvp
P4 take the least damage
P1-3 get chipped from RLs and stuff and obv p1 is main targeted
P5 gets pressured from SG or SR depending on atk or def
P5 get shotgunned
So p4 is safest
Ah yea sniped when you're defending too
But swha ignores and hits everyone I think evenly
i think i got bricked from whaling. Whales but didnt know how to whale. the reason is cause i didnt understand pvp until rail started teaching
So if ur bisc is lower hp than indom target swha will cause misindom whicb defo sucks
Relegates it to atk only
Yeah ur swha wont be good for indom anymore or u need to like get vigor 10 or something lol
Fish how many max cores do you have, if you don't mind me asking? Don't have to say if you don't want to just curious
lol
Could remove cube on swha but idk how much that would help
Or well at the very leats swha will only be a batery on indom
pilgrim/overspec max cores or all max cores?
i dont mind saying.
I can send my blabla if ur curious
Just all max cores @charred quail
U can still do jackal tvesti swha blanc rumani or something
Just have ur last battery be a defender so no misindoms
I usually use centi cuz shes most built for me and has more HP than my atkers
removing cube solves the red hood and swha issue once i get vigor to level 7
Rh swha indom isnt that common anyway no
need to follow rail sensei's teachings 
He told u to run it all the time or what
he told me that those are the standard indoms
22, damn and so many meta units too.
I have 37 but they are over half day 1 Nikke's 
Huh I didnt know it was that common
nothing else at the bottom
I guess this is for atking tho
attacking translates to defense building no?
No
only difference is sniper and shotgun
Sure but thats not the point really
An atk team u build to counter a team that u see
Common things can work
i been told based on my notes 1. super mega cp gap is ideal, 2nd best is 3 strong teams. The secret 3rd option is to abandon 1 team and make 2 mega teams
Like how rail said biscuitless moran noah stuff rh swha indom works well
But a defense team u make to cover as much ground as possible
Yeah but don't i have indom and out speed?
Hopefully force people to use certain units somewhere so they cant easily crack another
Or bait them into thinking they need to use a noah somewhere when it isnt needed
And change when it gets broken
attacking doesn't translate most of the time
there are certain things you can only use on attack like SGs because your opponent left themselves open to it
i cant make defense teams if i dont understand attack tho? which im still learning
Ive learned today that my whaling has bricked my pvp
he has indom, you have noah
Theyre just different parts of the game
they do not have a good enough matchup spread to be used on defense
Its like playing tag if ur the one whos running gameplay is a lot diff compared to when ur the one tagging
defense is just big AoE + defensive tool to make sure your AoE resolves
you get to use more specialized stuff for attacking
Scarlet trina is still a good atk team cuz some defs dont accomodate for it
But as a def team its a sore hole in ur def cuz label and others can very easily counter it
do i ask rail for help with this issue? i think he'll just say to whale more
I kill stuff with Scarlet all the time still
So that wouldnt "translate"
Even supposed counters because my Scarlet team is so fast 
Atk u just make sure u can beat exactly the team ur wanting to beat
Can do whatever u want u see exactly what u need to beat and ur job is solving the puzzle
Def is just making ur own puzzle and hope people cant solve. Obv thats a bit different
how would i learn defense team building? all ive been doing with rail rn is learning attack
Core things stay the same ofc but if u want ur puzzle to be hard to solve u need to cover a lot of things at once to make it tricky to solve
I mean you always have 1 Blanc team and 1 Noah team, the third team is where you are allowed to be creative
Nayuta is the most common because people actually build her
and she's not gonna tank your CP into the ground
Yeah usually u want those teams to be 2rl as well otherwise they become abusable
Opponent knows the speed they can just make something faster and usually beat it
What is noah?so my team 3 is better matched against his team 1? Does helm not out heal a vesti?
If u want to learn def in pins theres a "standard spa def" list
Since u know how to atk a bit now and how to beat these teams
U can basically think to urself
If I make these 3 teams how would my opps beat it. Which would they skip and how'd they tackle the rest
Hell no. 2 mega teams for attack geared towards each op and defense is cooked. Just variety is good
that notes was for defense
Usually they skip indom so then ur noah and 3rd team needs to have overlap so it becomes hard to crack
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Why isn't Noah indom?
Noah is a burst 2 and so is blanc
U cant run both unless u want noah to be a battery or blanc to be uselesd
Noah gives invulnerable so you can't be killed
i mean i guess attack doesnt matter that much cause there's multiple variations. i just run a team similiar to the notes rail gave me
Is Noah or blanc better?
depending on your rank you have a lot of options for team 3 tbh, I even used SG with some success on defense for a long time because a lot of people didn't understand how it works
problem is once they figure it out, it's a pretty bad team
Theyre both top of pvp meta and used all the time for ur teams
What's the counter? Jackal?
That is not indom, it's invuln, Blanc is indom, which means that whichever Nikke gets her buff will take damage but can't be killed and remains at 1hp until it runs out
But in something like rookie blanc is arguably better as a def
Jackal is 50/50, there is a chance their link dies after being unlinked
Is Noah not better than because she covers rhe whole team for a few secs?
the more consistent counter is Biscuit defender or Nayuta
ofc Nayuta also has to not have her indom dispelled
No cause this can be abusable
Jackal never unlinks though?
Noah is used if enemy team is a nuke comp, meant to one shot your whole team at once
The invulrn lasts for 3s iirc so a proper buffed indom that lasts for 10s will stay alive and kill the team
3s invuln, no, no
Indom is essentially just a powered zombie that just shoots for 10 seconds
@versed mesa why did I lose to a nuke when I had Noah invuln?
you are bursting Anis instead of Noah 
U either wanna stop them from getting the indom off / misindom or stall out the buffed zombie.usually not easy to do
You have SR Anis in P1... Unless she died before b2 it was her bursting, not Noah
burst go left to right
anis is probably dying before b2 but enemy still has indom
Yes I have anis as clip rl and cannon fodder
Vesti splashes a lot yeag
I don't outspeed?
Vesti 4 shots land before you can B2 on 0 cs team
So she ends up chipping p1 to p3
if she has enough ele, she can 4 tap you before you cast
more like p1 to p5 if you place noah p3
Omg true
2.5 rl too slow?
Noah taunt
I was gonna say why is no one saying that Noah taunts? 
What should my team order be?
I have an excuse I only unlocked noah 4 days ago
doesn't matter, you are not running Noah into Blanc to begin with
you don't win that matchup
I be johning
even if they don't have Vesti
I don't understand why I lose. My vesti just kills every other nikke outside of indom
How to counter blanc?
Yes because indom only goes on 1 Nikke
Doesn't matter if the rest die aslong as the indomed dpses you down before indom ends
Is it because Noah invuln does t last long enough?
I mean I would just kill Blanc before she can cast but Idk what you have built 
Oh so I use an rl instead to dps p5 => force indom p5?
they put her in a pretty easy position to kill
All my built units are in my teams already. Just missing mihara
How to kill blanc p3? That's an inconvenient position for me. I know they don't have biscuit though
I'd do this but there are ways to do it without Scar counter as long as your Vesti fat enough 
Nayuta is just for insurance tbh
issue is solved if i take off swha cube, get vigor to level 7 and biscuit to sr15?

hp on biscut is similiar to red hood
i calculated and swha would have less hp than red hood if i take cube off
and have vigor at level 7
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r15 right now on biscuit
Biscuit HP doesn't matter though 
You don't - @tropic summit
she's not linked
u hit other teams
unless you are just hoping she takes less damage overall in p3 than your links
which is not consistent
1 crit could ruin it 
last thing you want is Blanc to indom Biscuit
Moran noah biscuit helm and just prayge tank
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noah stun gg
so that swha doesnt misindom biscuit
Just be fast so noah doesnt get stunned
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blanc anis helm:
SWHA is taking 1/3rd damage in p2 if you have links in p4 p5
right now biscuit is getting indom even when i put vigor on her
no. red hood issue is solved when i get vigor to leel 7 and remove cube on swha
there is no chance of Biscuit getting indom in p4
unless all your links literally die
nothing does that much damage to p4 pre-B2
u are saying the actual hp is who gets indom, not the total?
whoever has the lowest HP at the current time in battle
what team
when Blanc casts
since your p2 and p3 are taking damage, they will have lower HP than p4
blan swha red hood biscuit jackal
i need context
ITS % based right ? Blanc Indom ?
if Blanc chose target at start of battle for indom we would not have this much issue 
There is no way Biscu get indom
ohh so whoever has lower hp at the moment. i was testing in shooting range and biscuit got indom. they wasnt taking dmg cause is shooting range
no it's flat HP for who is chosen. That is why chars like defenders can eat splash and be at a lower HP% but their base HP is still higher than attacker eating splash
if Blanc chose target at start of battle there would be a lot of issues 
what if that target died
Doll + tempe give nice dmg reduc
ure likely fighting against SWHA that hits everyone
Biscu in P4 wont save misindom if shes undolled at all
and if she isn't OLed or have dupes

Hi bestie
hi
yours is above mine on my screen.
yes but it was sending
how does one eep
right now she is at r15 doll and lb2
ima go put her in the wislist rn
@unique wagon get biscuit to sr15?
I think i can guarantee ITS % based let me upload the vid if i open my PC later on
I just can share the hp without locked in LV 400 now as you see my line up both rapu and bic lower yet in the vid my swha got the Indom
SR 5 is a big leap from R 15 bro
it's literally 12% DR
u literally only spend 1 doll
what is abbreviation of ttanis?
also, is there a way to kill blanc in any SW teams?
not sure why my teams cant kill overheal noise and rapunzel
Tt anis is the overspec one
People call it whatever but anistt or anistar are quite common
I just say aniss
I just say Anis because who still using base Anis 
True also
if you using her you grief
But I think can cause some misunderstandings
I meant to go to bed like 2 hours ago yet here I still lurk 
With neon I dont say anything cuz never has neon been good until now lol
wym, I used Neon in my early CA days 
Epic battery 
we were so starved for batteries on new player bracket
Neon and Product 23 carrying

Crazy work
Neonv with her gigantic rocket and firepower being outgenned by sad old neon with a sg
I just finished throwing a decent amount of rocks at vesti, who do I shuffle around to put her in my defense team? these are my current teams
3ol r10
Just waiting for blue maint kits and gear exp
Then I can get at least 4ol sr5
noice
@shell hazel maybe you see my name in lowest clears around here. Did a little trolling 
46-38 was fun 
It actually worked, Moran went brrrr 
Reached egovista. The fun ends
Do it
Burst neon first or cindy? 
@minor egret he hit me 30 mins ago, is he attacking you?
burst k first 
Always Neon first from my experience
You want to negate one hit of the sword combo in the second phase with Crown shield so that's one less Mast at 3 stacks with Neon but a 2 stacks Cindy instead
Yeah I'm fighting and trying to mess with him 
He just attacked once so far
Think yesterday he was -500. I lost count at this point but he should have spent more than he's earning already
Surely he's about to give up
I'm still ahead lmao
We must be living in his head at this point 
good 
I see. Will have a go tomorrow
It’s late now deadge
Kinda hard at 621 to be honest. This was my OLs for it back then and it was the lowest clear on the server at that time but I'm sure you can get it with less power. No real point to rush it because it doesn't give an outpost level but it's fun
eh, its jsut the one guy
everyone else is normal
why is he not normal like everyone else 
I'm surprised I won that round with Lib bursting, was a close one
106 ele neon
💨💨
My neon only 85 ele lol
Its that easy
It's so simple

you're telling the guy who spent 700+ pulls on anis to get 1 copy and 4 total ssrs to get lucky?
It is what it is 
I forgor. You not @umbral crown 
and then mephy pulled 10 of her in front of my face
@raven plover my vesti actually defeated the swha after lowered the ammo from 14 to 12 

best I can do is bad luck on pulls and bad luck on lines 
put some efforts into it, I believe in you
reload early 
@jagged mesa 
C10 quit a month ago and still nobody has taken his spot yet... people too comfy here
That Scar team is not fast
are u a pvp-er now 
No
its mess, centi treasured on defense team
soon, he is now part of the new generation of pvp players
What die to what? 
Did you read my comment it's a win so long as they happened like I said
Libby wipe is to not trigger biscuit on Anis. She would just die doing nothing.
Vesti indom vs privaty indom could be a lose though.
not me 

Maiden ended up getting the indom for me and Moran finished both Anis and Maiden but it was scary
cant use blanc or noah
these two are me
grim asking how to beat anis blanc bisc without blanc noah or bisc or even jackal cuz id presum theyre used on other teams
ur not wrong abt lib nuke tho but issue is whos ur b2
need to be someone who doesnt proc invul on anis p1
Reposting it. I used Trina
maybe triple sniper but u dont have helm
Probably not work without a 15% gap though 
I could. Noise Rumani Noah for round 2 and AnisTT Blanc Biscuit for round 1
Moran is my savior 
:///

Duel of the SSS electric B1
what's the difference? 1 rock to 0 rock ig
Lost?
Same CP and level range 
This could lose in the future
Just use SR nikke to bully p5, not AR nikke
I cooked up something like this for SPA, prioritizing getting a doll for Rumani currently at least.. 
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@minor egret I'm getting some peace. Nayuta and the noise CA frame guy haven't been able to beat my new defense
so its only the scar psycho to deal with
I'll try sending them smoke signals so they attack him instead
Maybe they're trying but failing
nayuta maybe but i doubt the other guy can't win
he's pretty good at team building
yup 😒

Why not harran
why u want a pile of dust
gimme rapu
I haven't login for a while, feels good to not fkin mald
Imagine malding
Who should i replace?
Sbs
With?

whats ur spa def teams bro im running out of inspo

everyone running blanc 1 noah 2 nayu 3 like pls can we change ts
I haven't changed spa for months
so not even have Anis








