pvp-arena

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

ntw

[gritty ridge]

Is this an ad lib sheet

[glad meteor]

[arctic jewel]

or just GTA for that matter xD

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/austin-powers-austinpowers--k01KS12CJRK1XV6EN33TNT85NND

[glad meteor]

Idk. The surface is kinda meant to be rough right

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/kakyoin-gif-9178210814852318517

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-funnyanimal-cat-kitten-cute-gif-1816846181050494705

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

what's up?

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

I know your surface is smooth

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

damn you read it on time then

[arctic jewel]

👀 👀 👀 👀

Sauce?

[hollow lagoon]

To enjoy smooth onion rail experience you must first the the form to join the cult of

[hollow lagoon]

Wuwa’s cantarella

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-wuwa-cantarella-cantarella-wuwa-shhh-gif-3567825002941011418

[arctic jewel]

The Cult of Verily

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[tropic summit]

girls in Wuwa will suck you dry ||(dry of money)||

[arctic jewel]

I actually don't xD

[quaint granite]

[glad meteor]

The dream is a vampire yandere. Trust.

[tropic summit]

what is she gonna suck?

[quaint granite]

everything

[glad meteor]

everything

[arctic jewel]

I only know one character from that game, Zani

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

In cult’s Mudae thing I pulled her already, not sure if I gave to @quaint granite, I prob did

[quaint granite]

[versed mesa]

YES!

[quaint granite]

Haven't

[tropic summit]

i know too many characters from that game and i didn't play it yet

makes you wonder where i saw them

probably some high resolution ||trailer||

[arctic jewel]

I can only imagine

[versed mesa]

@hollow lagoon Didn't steal my Anis ATK line!

[quaint granite]

Well thats funny I got promoted for saying the word "Everything"

[hollow lagoon]

U lie

[tropic summit]

it's a sign

[quaint granite]

Cantarella man

[arctic jewel]

I know where I get most of my ZZZ and Azur Lane art

[hollow lagoon]

Gib me good lines on my anis, my 2 ele anis

[charred quail]

@tropic summit top is for t1 . bottom is for t3

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/dale-walking-dead--k01KS12SATW57JMK1N07NSMY60Z

[hollow lagoon]

it will cost you, and ur already in debt

[quaint granite]

The race for onions shall continue! Hence forth!

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-kenobi-of-course-i-know-him-hes-me-gif-12774102

[quaint granite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946719897390563328/1498325415721308230/rapidsave.com_2a4hhayuu7xg1.gif

[tropic summit]

nice biscuit B2, nuke in the face, indom team is partially correct, you need vestiTU because SWHA will not proc biscuit stacks on cindy, meaning you get stalled out

[arctic jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/eduardo-sterblitch-eduardo-sterblitch-laugh-smile-gif-21515066

[tropic summit]

try again tomorrow, i see small progress if anything @charred quail

[charred quail]

oh oops kek

[quaint granite]

I'll show you Snow Crane's nuke one day

[tropic summit]

the 4RL snow crane nuke ye

[charred quail]

wreong positioning. sorry kek

[tropic summit]

no worries, slowly but surely you'll figure it out

[charred quail]

i dont know how im going to breakthrough the basics. i still dont get it after this much sets

[tropic summit]

tomorrow if i give you 1 set of scarlet and 1 set of moran and you still don't figure it out after today then you can start worrying, for today you did well enough

[quaint granite]

I will make Snow Crane work - Snow Crane P1, Blanc P2, Anis star P3, Rosanna P4, PrivatyT P5

[glad meteor]

@shell hazel @tropic summit

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit I added some team things and I can download an image now

[glad meteor]

Sdoro

[charred quail]

you winding down now?

[tropic summit]

what happens if team runs p5 pressure and doesn't kill snow crane?

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-too-easy-basic-gif-17920371738562039657

[tropic summit]

ye i think it's enough for today, take your break and i'll give you more sets tomorrow

[shell hazel]

well that is hacks

[tropic summit]

we'll test then if you grasped nuke and DPS

[quaint granite]

ALT+F4 works ||pfft I hope I fooled him||

[shell hazel]

why you bronze now?

[tropic summit]

PC shutting down

[quaint granite]

Cause I read @glad meteor's mind

[tropic summit]

he typed "everything" and got promoted

https://klipy.com/gifs/everything-reaction-meme--k01KS133MN1R2K20CQ2F064ZKSZ

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit pretty sure if I had zanta set menus built I could scrape a blabla and then spit out some set menu items with power and nikkes and such

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

what was zanta set menus

I think he posted them before

[versed mesa]

[shell hazel]

lets try it

[jagged sedge]

probably the last time being #1. Other dude just bought like 30 synch levels

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel

@shell hazel

what are you testing tho @shell hazel , counter matchmaking?

[charred quail]

do you want to do more in a few hours or you prefer tomorrow?

[tropic summit]

few hours i'm in the bed prolly, better tomorrow

[glad meteor]

[versed mesa]

[tropic summit]

believe it or not, i sleep in a bed

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

He said the b word

https://tenor.com/view/lewd-trinity-seven-anime-sign-gif-7407062

[versed mesa]

Ba-na-na

[shell hazel]

currently:
input = someone blabla scrape builds
outout = I select set-menu and then the player and it tells me the team power/viability

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

so if someone posts blabla and I can scrape it, I can see if any zanta set menus work

[glad meteor]

Scraping data

[tropic summit]

oh alrighty

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/just-a-scrape-angel-bonanni-tommy-gibbs-absentia-just-a-scratch-gif-17808608

[tropic summit]

we've some public blabla links already in the chat if you wanna i can grab one @shell hazel

[cedar sorrel]

For who?

[shell hazel]

it's wiring up the ability to save the sets atm

[shell hazel]

you got noah so I could try yours 😄

[cedar sorrel]

Hm?

Wdym exactly tav?

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel you mean you need someone to use their blabla link and see if it loads their decks?

[versed mesa]

AnisTT, been hunting atk since I got her only had 1 other piece until now.

[cedar sorrel]

Ooh thats fat

Nice 3 lines

[shell hazel]

I can add em I can scrape em

zanta set menu A for my own nikkes

vesti less than 2.5RL as I need to account for CS

[cedar sorrel]

So what are you doing and what can I do?

[shell hazel]

gimme your keys, your wallet, your clothes, and your box

[cedar sorrel]

Sure

[shell hazel]

[cedar sorrel]

🔑 🪪 💳 👕 👖 https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtNjQ1MTc4MDEwNzkxMDk0NjYwMw%3D%3D

[shell hazel]

I need to add set menu B and C as well

https://tenor.com/view/terminator2-your-clother-your-boots-gif-27492677

[cedar sorrel]

My aniss has been really enjoying mammo

[arctic jewel]

does angy gremlin voices in a corner

[glad meteor]

0 ele

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/getout-gif-16327023334064302194

[cedar sorrel]

Whats this?

[shell hazel]

zanta set menu A no good for you - can see missing units

let me save the other set menus

[cedar sorrel]

Rude

[tropic summit]

hmm not bad actually

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit zanta let us down A and B are the same here?

[tropic summit]

eh really? i can give you a typical set i give instead if you wanna try it

nayuta anisTT helmT lib drakeT
moran noah biscuit swha laplaceT
jackal vestiTU xmaiden blanc ada

[gritty ridge]

Rail im so good at pvp

See?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-handshake-3--k01KS13Z56XDNM6BQYNDCY0T4PV

[gritty ridge]

Im top 50 in rookie arena

[tropic summit]

you dissapoint me

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit Question, if you use Rapunzel and your opponent uses Rosanna (both teams are same speed), what will happen?

[tropic summit]

CS% difference, although in general rapunzel happens before rosanna happens, cuz frame in rapunzel are faster

[tropic summit]

rosanna is a projectile so it's not immediate

[arctic jewel]

... Rosanna is an annoying Nikke...

[gritty ridge]

Indeed

[shell hazel]

Rail menu A for got noah 🙂

so it's clear need to swap drakeT and LapT but else present

[cedar sorrel]

My bad cp units getting revealed

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

looks good and pretty neat

i like that thingie @shell hazel , good job

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/embarrassed-steve-carell-dont-look-cant-unsee-that-gif-13573290

[glad meteor]

I’m an ele go0n. No ele = bend

[shell hazel]

I need to get you loose on it at some point lol

to add some features

or to see if it helps with team building bits

[tropic summit]

making it available like nikke deck would be pretty amazing

wonder if you can host it without having to pay shiet

[placid bloom]

if you host using your own PC or something yeah, but not worth security risk

[tropic summit]

yeah especially in 2026

[cedar sorrel]

Baby biscuit

[shell hazel]

I dunno atm and it's stealing so much from other deck things - for time being I'd just want a local version I can use I guess

[tropic summit]

sounds good

[cedar sorrel]

Also cuz I got noah now should I go for lapT instead of bayT?

[shell hazel]

like I'm just straight up yoinking layout stuff from nikke deck (because I am just screwing about it's fine for me own purposes)

I need to find other set menus

[cedar sorrel]

Ur biscuit almost as strong as a pilgrim 💪

[gritty ridge]

Yup, almost

[cedar sorrel]

At least shes trying her best

[north brook]

For some reason my bisc was born 12/12 so shes always had cracked cp

[quartz vortex]

how much min charge speed you want on helm for it to be relevant?

[cedar sorrel]

I wish

[north brook]

Depends, but sr have no projectile so they innately have effectively 8%

[arctic jewel]

answer: yes

[gritty ridge]

26%

[tropic summit]

8% else go 21% but not really needed

[north brook]

you might not need any for cs breakpoints, since you need her rl teammates over 11% for helms to matter

[versed mesa]

My top row, Biscuit and Noah like peanutbutter and jelly

[gritty ridge]

Unless its anis

[cedar sorrel]

Hows ur centi this stacked

Where are your pve units at actually lol

[quartz vortex]

so i could just go with crit lines instead?

[arctic jewel]

for Helm? no

I'd rather have 3 CS and 1 Ammo

[gritty ridge]

Can you even tell my account is pvp main

[tropic summit]

pve main

[north brook]

Just beats so many units with deliberate investment

[cedar sorrel]

How are sr5/10 units in ur top row

[gritty ridge]

What abt now

[arctic jewel]

Some day, I will have my wife at top 1

[tropic summit]

still pve main

[versed mesa]

I just got high cp on pvp units for some reason

[gritty ridge]

[versed mesa]

My PvE roll rng is garbage

[north brook]

Cores do heavy lifting

[gritty ridge]

Cuz the doll isnt a massive boost to cp im ngl

[tropic summit]

should've noah in line 1 like rosy

[gritty ridge]

So true, I need 4 atk 4 crit 4 cs noah

[tropic summit]

this is pvp main account

[north brook]

My top cp units are pretty much all core max except rapi and sbs who have lots of blue+ lines

[tropic summit]

nero, noah, blanc, vesti, moran, lappy, ein, noise line 1

[cedar sorrel]

I wouldnt know yeah

[tropic summit]

he also has absolute pretty damn high up there

eunhwa on same invest as emi and liberalio

and that rapunzel holy moly

[gritty ridge]

But where's bready

You cant be a pvp main without bready

[tropic summit]

he's not a thicc believer

[gritty ridge]

Fish agrees

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

i forgot i was AFK and i created another traffic jam

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/andy-hit-dwight-car-prius-gif-25043819

[haughty mortar]

Got a few new nikkes. Could I pick your brains for improvements on defense?

[gritty ridge]

Seeing fish just put bready in a team with no enabler was peak im ngl

[tropic summit]

poor ol' fish doesn't quite grasp team balance yet

[gritty ridge]

He'll get there

[quaint granite]

Whats this new stuff

[tropic summit]

nikke deck but on steroids

should probably call it nikke builder or something

[gritty ridge]

Whats the point of cp

[quaint granite]

No wonder I was late for work

[gritty ridge]

Just win

[cedar sorrel]

Okay thanks bro

[tropic summit]

build noah and your revenge begins btw

[quaint granite]

Beeeeeeg CP means thicc win

[cedar sorrel]

Noah is gonna be my top priority now

Rip to noise and bay

[arctic jewel]

🤔

[haughty mortar]

They are shit now?

[quaint granite]

You got Noah yet?

[versed mesa]

Getting that Atk line and blue ele on that Anis piece ate all my rocks

[quaint granite]

Forgive me I did not read your name

[cedar sorrel]

No but I wont invest OL them currently over noah

[cedar sorrel]

I am a noah having individual now

[haughty mortar]

Good move

[cedar sorrel]

Issue is the gear mats

Its not worth buying the good teamwork boxes right with bones?

[haughty mortar]

Do you need an Ark? Coz I Noah girl

[tropic summit]

normal behavior

[versed mesa]

No unless you have a big surplus

[cedar sorrel]

Ive gotten top 10% every coop basically so I do have some to spare

[quaint granite]

I just see "Nikke players don't read"

[cedar sorrel]

Is that big

[tropic summit]

[quaint granite]

I need to Onion the Rail to update my reading skillz

[haughty mortar]

Do you get in top 100?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/nodoka-nodoka-manabe--k01KS15930DPM1YVSE40QWK2ZAN

[cedar sorrel]

How would I at synch 264 do that 😭

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/castorice-honkai-star-rail-star-rail-rice-fried-rice-gif-15126117275146411567

[haughty mortar]

Do you 10%

[cedar sorrel]

Yes

I think I missed it once

[haughty mortar]

Then this is as much as you should buy

[quaint granite]

[cedar sorrel]

During lycoris recoil event

[haughty mortar]

I still cry about the loss of 5k bones when the new system started

[gritty ridge]

Use this and pray

[cedar sorrel]

Ugh but gear mats accumulate so slow 😭

[cedar sorrel]

[haughty mortar]

Do what I did: Farm gear from AI.

[scarlet adder]

holy shit how ?! i need one xD

[gritty ridge]

Thats fine

[cedar sorrel]

U use T9M gear as mats?

[gritty ridge]

Somwtimes

[cedar sorrel]

Pilgrim mold blessed me bro

[cedar sorrel]

Even rosanna is ashamed in that pic

[quaint granite]

damn I had like 5 Dorothy from it

[gritty ridge]

Try the team

[haughty mortar]

No. Just regular T9

[gritty ridge]

And record it

[cedar sorrel]

Pilgrim mold last time gave me cindy I think

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit

[scarlet adder]

i got crown and lib from 2 once so my luck on those molds probably run out 😄

[tropic summit]

[cedar sorrel]

The season is finished you should know this SPA arena bigboi 57 boss pvper

[tropic summit]

that would be handy for saving defenses too @shell hazel

[quaint granite]

Wheres my menu?

[gritty ridge]

Season ending is for quitterw

[versed mesa]

You need 7500 bones each week for the Gear and doll mats, just try to keep that in mind. And coop every 2 weeks so I try to keep 15k in store atleast. I wouldn't clear those out but you can buy a few if you are slightly short

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/castorice-honkai-star-rail-star-rail-rice-fried-rice-gif-15126117275146411567

[quaint granite]

I am hungry brother

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/frieren-fern-19--k01KS15H60EEQJA448B1PYG5PC1

[cedar sorrel]

I guess Im not in a rush currently since I also have ZERO ROCKS

And ZERO doll mats

[haughty mortar]

You are making me hungry!

[shell hazel]

rail menu A serving to shihai

[charred quail]

@tropic summit Have a good night. Praying I do better tomorrow

[quaint granite]

Rail invited me for food

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/do-your-best-anime--k01KS15JEHS1JYGT5NMSRF0EC06

[haughty mortar]

You bought the mats from the recycling shop right?

[gritty ridge]

Where my menu

[cedar sorrel]

R10 noah 🔥 🔥

[versed mesa]

Yeah, unless you are super short on credits or xp for gear it is generally not worth

[north brook]

Least we get slight surplus on doll mats

[shell hazel]

gimme your blabla

[haughty mortar]

Use those Golds!

[cedar sorrel]

Yeah I did

[quaint granite]

Use the golds ONLY when you are desperate lol

[gritty ridge]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtMTI0MDQ0OTYzNDE3MTI4NDUzMTI%3D

[haughty mortar]

You still have 9 tries!

[hollow lagoon]

I’m desperate

[north brook]

Well id just only use them for upgrading sr dolls

[versed mesa]

What if I am always desperate?

[quaint granite]

chill bro you have carpel tunnel

[gritty ridge]

Dont use golds on blue dolls people

[cedar sorrel]

And then blues only for R dolls is what I have been taught. Is that wrong?

[hollow lagoon]

My finger is rip

[shell hazel]

you also rail menu A bigboi

[hollow lagoon]

My wrist is jelly

[tropic summit]

my menu highest CP @gritty ridge

[gritty ridge]

Waow

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/jello-jiggle-wiggle-gelatin-jelly-gif-16481343

[quaint granite]

I slap 4 blue dolls together to make a purple

[shell hazel]

I need to account for CS and quantum cubes still somehow

[hollow lagoon]

My Isabel is 3 ele back to no rock

[gritty ridge]

[north brook]

Tbh just use blue only for r5, blue or purp r10, blue or purp r15, use whatever has highest rate for sr+

[quaint granite]

[charred quail]

What I should review before tomorrow?

[hollow lagoon]

Wanna play my Alice comp for me?

[haughty mortar]

This is right. I personally only use blues on Rs

[gritty ridge]

Dont look at my biscuit

[north brook]

Its always optimal to just get lucky and max out the doll for cheap

[tropic summit]

what we saw today would be a good start, if i ask you again similar or same sets i expect perfect marks

[cedar sorrel]

Ic ic

[quaint granite]

You gonna have to pay hospital bills for me when I come over

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-15530372636024879885

[cedar sorrel]

Well I guess Im just idling then cuz Im literally broke

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddes-of-victory-nikke-stellar-blade-eve-gif-10542806863475849254

[charred quail]

Skeleton team comp and the completed team examples?

[hollow lagoon]

I’ll cure you with @tropic summit ‘s onion

[cedar sorrel]

That thang janglin

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/edgeworth-ayo-wtf-skullfiremoyai-gif-26062811

[tropic summit]

[quaint granite]

Rail has two big onions hehe if you catch my drift

[versed mesa]

Oh man another someone over 500 synchro in my Union has been away for over a week

[arctic jewel]

I personally like using blue as often as I can, just so that I get better percentage with purple and gold

[cedar sorrel]

For onion soup

[charred quail]

Yessir

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/store-shop-water-melon-watermelon-funny-gif-17207362670632843878

[tropic summit]

[versed mesa]

Only gacha skin I have been most tempted by, but did not budge

[arctic jewel]

why should I buy the pop star costume when this exists?

[cedar sorrel]

Cuz u missed it

[quaint granite]

I skipped so therefore popstar it is

[gritty ridge]

Ok @tropic summit, test time. beat this at 27% deficit

[arctic jewel]

you poor soul

[quaint granite]

I was f2p that time

[tropic summit]

blanc vestiTU rh biscuit jackal?

[gritty ridge]

[arctic jewel]

it's not a bad skin, I'm just... cultured

[tropic summit]

what wizardry did you use for that deficit?

[cedar sorrel]

Patented biscuit sack

[quaint granite]

I would too but I wasn't feeling it that time

Man I wish they add Rail as a Nikke in the game. I would be winning my CA battles

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/donovan-rich-gif-25582183

[tropic summit]

i'm already in the game what you going on about

[arctic jewel]

🙃

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/edgeworth-despair-exhauste-pale-unbeliveable-gif-11904827416618355297

[tropic summit]

@quaint granite

[quaint granite]

I gotta invest

[tropic summit]

give your SGs some love

[quaint granite]

S.Doro coming soon

[gritty ridge]

Wait, wrong team

Thats a dif deficit team

[quaint granite]

10 blue tickets of today is a blessing

[gritty ridge]

youd use ada>rh there @tropic summit

[versed mesa]

I got my first Snow Crane with them

[tropic summit]

ah oke i figured you'd use ada if rh alone wasn't enough

[quaint granite]

[tropic summit]

i wouldn't be able to run it cuz my ada would be lower HP

[gritty ridge]

Moran at deficit is wayyyy tankier than you cluld imagine

[quaint granite]

Moran thicc tank

[versed mesa]

Oh I just realised I have every Missilis wishlistable Nikke now. Snow Crane was the only one missing

[tropic summit]

almost 2AM time to hit the bed, @shell hazel tomorrow morning i wake up and your thingie makes counters automatically accounting deficit aswell and CS% difference ye?

[quaint granite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946719897390563328/1498325415721308230/rapidsave.com_2a4hhayuu7xg1.gif

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit similar team, cook for it pookie

[versed mesa]

❤️ I saw it

[tropic summit]

bigboi is made of something else

[gritty ridge]

Dont mind speedy scar

[tropic summit]

my vesti dies against that thing

[shell hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1245939636702810225/1497996447780704549/mintwink.gif

[quaint granite]

You literally going for a road kill

[gritty ridge]

Wdym

Deficit pvp is my way of life

[charred quail]

Think that’s my current union mate.

Is the union miyu?

[gritty ridge]

It is

Oishi is in your union

[charred quail]

Ye

[gritty ridge]

I bully oishi on occasion

[charred quail]

[gritty ridge]

One day you too will get the chance to bully oishi

[charred quail]

I think there’s only one guy in my union that understands PvP

Khazan is his name

[quaint granite]

You driving a truck and you hit them hard

[gritty ridge]

Your union has a server?

[charred quail]

Yea. My union has a discord server. I can invite you

[gritty ridge]

Tell oishi I said hi

[charred quail]

You can go in there and ping him

[gritty ridge]

What if he get mad and try to beat me up

[charred quail]

Sent the link in dm

[shell hazel]

no booly bigboi

[charred quail]

I don’t think that will happen if you tell him you’re a friend

Why’s the PvP basics so hard to grasp?

[lone sequoia]

because you need time to learn and pvp should change after every unit, the problem is that this sytem is not balanced and dead after cindy (you can't defend)

most of the teams are the same since the first year, the only change is that some units do more things and have more wall of text

[stone heart]

Just need to learn every nikke do and learn hard counter soft counter i think

[charred quail]

[lone sequoia]

speed, burst chain, destroy buff, classes/the position they target should be the basics
team core/synergies that a bit more than that

[charred quail]

I been told that. Where do I learn it? I’m pretty much learning PvP blind with rail’s teachings.

I’d like to learn it on my own when rail isn’t here

[stone heart]

I not confidence enough to point some good team sync since i have a things to learn .

I mostly learn from keripo YouTube. The meta things on his video

[lone sequoia]

you will learn playing the game, there is no easiest way to learn than reading the skills of the "meta" teams, what each unit do and how they work at the same time

after that all the units shared the same synergies, 1 unit can work against most of them at the same time they are weak against them in a different situation

[stone heart]

This. ITS make me more better learn in hard way on rokiee arena

[charred quail]

I’m not doing that cause I don’t have a lot of the PvP specific units invested atm so it’s better for me to do theory based team building

[lone sequoia]

there are different types of units, you can check what units are similar to others or what are their roles in each team, then just swap them for a better unit that do the same or a bit more, probably with more specific pvp units you get the same result less investment or without more gimmicks

the main problem in pvp since cindy banner is that the last few dps units can just win without skill lvls or good OL, compared to older units, they don't need a team to win

[urban wave]

@dense kindle @quick lake I owe you guys a lot. Was able to break Challenger 7 and I scored the 2700 gem reward this season

[dense kindle]

I learned everything I know from my teacher @umbral belfry and by extension @tropic summit

make sure to ask her lots of questions on my behalf

[urban wave]

Sure I don't mind. What'dya want me to ask 'em?

[shell hazel]

how the doggos are doin

[urban wave]

I'm doing good. What about you?

Ohhh my bad

@umbral belfry @tropic summit how are the dogs doing?

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

[quaint granite]

[shell hazel]

[lone sequoia]

if you ask hime, don't forget the rock tax

[shell hazel]

tell me about it she ate my rocks today I only got 1 lol

[lone sequoia]

can you check if your game lag when you don't get rocks? everytime i play AI and i don't get rocks lag a bit, different devices connections or accounts, always happen

[stone heart]

Hmm
Reading tier list here https://nikke-deck.com/en/pvp-tier-list and learn why from here https://nikke.gg/tier-list/ ?
Because their skill has many specific use vs specific nikke

[late tiger]

Unbalanced should be OP (Overpowered)
Liberalio shouldn't be SSS tier

reason being that her burst hits delayed, which gives blanc and noah enough time to burst

Scarlet burst is instant, but too weak nowadays. at best SS, too

[shell hazel]

it's subjective

[late tiger]

nah, Scarlet is weak

[shell hazel]

I mean tier list in general

like people who think lib is better than she is or w/e

most will say she isn't the best defence to run because of her predictable nuke you can catch

[stone heart]

Yep weak as defense team.

She still singing on attack team

[quaint granite]

Good on attack - RNG pray in CA

[late tiger]

i wonder. both of them win next to no match-up for special arena, unless you overpower with CP
pairing scarlet with blanc is a waste as much better options exist too
bay, blanc team, stall team, noah win next to all matchups, if not paired with blanc

liberalio, if anything, only wins against bay teams and even then only sometimes

[shell hazel]

lib can nuke post noah as well if you time it right

but that tends to be when you can run the team to win

[late tiger]

Does a stall comb for liberalio exist?

[shell hazel]

not really think we got better options

her nuke is her main damage, though she does OK outside of it can get stuck on single targets

[late tiger]

Huh, then how does lib hit post noah?

[shell hazel]

slower lib, noah shield expires, nuke

because of her nuke delay

[late tiger]

That would have to be 4rl or 4.5. i dont think that is possible, cuz either noah blocks nuke from the enemy, blanc lets lib survive. Maybe bay team, if anything, but even then to survive nukes you need dmg reduction from moran and bay

The only time lib may win is if it hits into 3rl or has units to stun enemy team

Considering both teams have equal cp

[shell hazel]

I saw it once I'm pretty sure

[hallow sparrow]

Any ideas on how to counter this

[late tiger]

So 3.5rl into 2rl. Any other b3 outside of swha with her long 2-3s charge would have killed them

Still interesting setup

[tight finch]

Maiden can semi carry certain comps if lib dies eg. vs scar

But i think its mainly just made to deal with noah + bisc stuff

[late tiger]

Ye, was highly specific. But nice to know 3.5rl is the sweet spot

Can win again scarlet and swha

[finite scarab]

Is there a write up on interactions between teams or units?

[covert lintel]

[raven plover]

so whel

[quaint granite]

10 gems left is a long recovery

[placid bloom]

rich mlb haver

[charred quail]

Ty

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/digimon-anime-japanese-cartoon-credit-card-technology-gif-5607300

[umbral crown]

This gif sent me to the Cash Shop

hobo is making people wheel

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-crossed-arms-pikachu-eyes-closed-pokemon-gif-15194868

[quaint granite]

Such as fate, calling for desperate measures.

[stone heart]

Keep calm and pray to the God of the ordinary voucher 🙂‍↕️

[covert lintel]

You always appear when my gems are below 100

[raven plover]

Im a regular

[calm zealot]

atm i got jackel, siren,snow white chunk mode, blanc, and treasure helm. should i switch out siren for anis or keep her

[charred quail]

I now insert my credit card into the device. I will now Henshin

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-henshin-kamen-rider-tiger-tokusatsu-kamen-rider-ryuki-gif-9231913611707069026

[sinful iris]

lol siren comp is 50/50, one loss one win
the scarlet comp worked first time, didn't work second as moran survived burst and had lifesteal as last survivor
swapped to kuwon's nayuta comp but enemy swha was last survivor killing my nayuta lel
they really whaled hard into swha it seems

[unique wagon]

Prydwen's best cus It's inspired by Railtracer smh

And I somewhat agree

[livid wadi]

Pls help I need team for sp arena

[quartz vortex]

is maiden still worth building for pvp?

[raven plover]

xmaiden, yes

[quartz vortex]

i meant the regular one

[raven plover]

no

[small gale]

For attacker, the squad is trying for a stun lock. B1 is Rapunzel, B3 is Privaty. If Rapunzel stuns, there's going to be a gap where the opponent can use their burst before Privaty stuns again and this is unavoidable?

[tight finch]

Depends who, noah will proc burst between stuns, some b3 can proc fast enough

[gaunt pulsar]

yes, there 4f gap

[gaunt pulsar]

in this case if your b1 burst is preferably more than 6f faster than enemy b1 dot - then you stun before their b1 with rapu>rapu burst ends>they have time to only press b1>they get stunned with privaty after without getting to b2>b2 happens after privaty stun ends if there anything alive

[tulip quest]

bro I watched Masked Rider a lot when I was a kid "Rider CHANGE"

[small gale]

thanks

[tulip quest]

I learned more math here than ever compared to college

I must be that lazy type if it doesn't interest me

I feel old now hoboman

[raven plover]

same

[small gale]

Unfortunately, their B2, and B3 (Cindy) still live and their B1 activates during the 4f gap between Rapunzel and Privaty's stuns. I'm looking for a bigger damage boost for my B2 (currently Noah).

[gaunt pulsar]

you fighting biscuit team?

[stuck hearth]

to the one CN player who literally gatekept me outta rank 1 achievements and now tried to do the same for pvp. suck my a

[onyx scaffold]

they add CA in CN @raven plover
watch CN devs improve it before shift up does shit

[river dune]

https://tenor.com/view/古加-gif-25888225

[shell hazel]

look how good my CS is @tropic summit

[shell hazel]

gimme your blabla link if you got one I can see which set menu works best

might need to be later though as I gotta go to work soon

[raven plover]

wtf is there CA titles

[shadow vale]

Im New to pvp but the top Team i can build. So thats your best Team / recommended?

[onyx scaffold]

not sure but im about to fight top spenders as day 1 group player

[raven plover]

I saw CN cindy wtf does she have better gen on pvp insane instant RL like laplace

[onyx scaffold]

not sure if i want to get cindy dupe

there are no rumani trina there

[raven plover]

yea prolly not, imagine indom cindy with thanos buff there tho

[shell hazel]

nah it's rail set menu A

it's a suite of teams there are other set menus

[small gale]

is star anis off burst a better attack buff than helm off burst?

[tropic summit]

@charred quail clear these 2 sets, ping me whenever, no timelimit

conditions:

• use an indom and an anti nuke, keep the archetype to the ones you already know and learned about, main B3 for indom should be SWHA or vestiTU
• 2 out of 3
• no deficit/core difference advantage

[tropic summit]

damn that's a nice addon, good job
looking better and better

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/horse-uma-musume-1--k01KS2G65VDJZKF91VGXFSSZ83X

[tropic summit]

that's why i call that rookie team cancer, you're probably best ignoring those unless you've a solid mirror slower indom, but i'm not a fan of those

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anya-anya-forger-61--k01KS2G80T45EWKTZE9K1TW25XN

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta anisTT RRH drakeT maiden
• moran swha blanc alice neonOS
• jackal crown QEQ biscuit HelmT

Notes

• finish treasure asap on helmT, moranT and privT (helm needs phase 2, s1 lvl 10, moranT maxed, privT maxed)
• wishlist/build noah, trina, centi, rumani, noise, vestiTU, liberalio, cinderella, siren
• improve CP asap on blanc, jackal and biscuit (get blanc and jackal at least R15-SR5 and 4OL)

[glad meteor]

12:34 on nikke

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-doakes-meme-doakes-suspicious-gif-7434634924845802139

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-cutting-the-grass-gif-15795360792683319843

Rail busy planting onions

[tropic summit]

silly discord doesn't understand what "sleep" means

[calm zealot]

atm i got jackel, siren,snow white chunk mode, blanc, and treasure helm. should i switch out siren for anis or keep her

[karmic monolith]

What are the meta rookie arena teams right now?

[tropic summit]

• anisTT blanc helmT biscuit swha
• anisTT blanc vestiTU biscuit helmT
• anisTT blanc privT biscuit helmT
  ...etc

[karmic monolith]

oh so blanc teams

[raven plover]

the one that cp gap your enemies hard

[tropic summit]

switch to anisTT blanc swha biscuit helmT

[fathom sparrow]

I finally pulled VestiTU, how much investment do I need for her to be useful in SP Arena? OL and doll?

[shell hazel]

yeah I'm at work now though can't do more until later

[quick lake]

She’s great for pvE as well. generally max skills, some atk/ammo/cs

[livid wadi]

https://www.blablalink.com/user?openid=MjkwODAtMTgzMDQ0OTU0MTUwMjYwOTAxNTA=

also my ID:18304495415026090150

[shell hazel]

I'll be home in a few hours (no SPA anyway yet right) I'll check it then for you

your link looks a little weird though too much there, more than I usually expect to see

I just need the openid or uid stuff usually

[shell hazel]

may want to edit your old one to remove it in case anything shouldn't be there

[gritty ridge]

Hello chat

[quick lake]

@shell hazel https://oooooo.rip/ your UR data is out. Exactly what u wanted

[quaint granite]

Hello Bigboi

[shell hazel]

ohhhh? ;D

me will check when I'm home, ours was never a secret zanta usually posts the sheets at some point

but curious on if we can see others

[quick lake]

yep, top 150 unions across servers, all teams all bosses all dmg viewable

[shell hazel]

def curious how they got it

[quick lake]

hacked surely

[shell hazel]

but the one I saw was patched it seems

[swift mango]

man, it's 3 days straight I didn't even check arena tab.

and 2 days in a row that I'm bricking like Echo.

Maybe I'm getting tire of game like Keripo.

[quaint granite]

Lol imagine the weaker ones hitting you so you get free points

[swift mango]

no one hitting me period.

only one guy hit me but only when my rank is high

[quaint granite]

kek guess your bricked

[last vigil]

What cube yall use for moran

[shell hazel]

Keripo said he getting bored?

[versed mesa]

I haven't logged in over 15 hours and already used my 5 rookie tickets, so bricked

[shell hazel]

well SPA is down today = nice day off

[quaint granite]

It really is a nice day off

[versed mesa]

I'm curious if I ticked the C4 off by doing a succesful snipe. He was pretty chill for the first few weeks after the shuffle that put us in the same place, until this last season that he got more aggro

The again he missed one day completely and often doesn't log in for over 24 hours so going into reduced cache, so I have no idea what he is doing

[calm zealot]

Biscuit!

[swift mango]

he just play less this game and more another, not change his team, not making video of nikke and not get out of league

[shell hazel]

he hit level cap a while back tbh

for keripo it sounded like spa was never a challenge just ran team || amex ||

[swift mango]

change ca team

not even change order

[tropic summit]

time to become a yugiho main

[swift mango]

Nah, I'm just hopping back on to collecting before everything overpriced.

maybe because it's summer that price increasing, idk.

[placid bloom]

it's Logan Paul, his video made all the crypto investor buy old Yugioh

after he ruined Pokemon he is looking for other games now

[swift mango]

Idk, I was able to buy Dark magician Arkana Quarter secret rare today for 33$. Market price is 62$ now and still increasing

[placid bloom]

I saw Asian English QCSR get popular for a while but maybe it's not anymore

they are also just not easy to find because low print run

[swift mango]

It's not Asian english, it's UK version.

I know it would be hard pressed to sell that copy on shopee where I live so it just stay in the binder forever.

Those 1000$ card on the vendor where I'm just basically show case their ware, they never sold .

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Chat why cant I play the games I grew up with without spending 500k

[placid bloom]

well it is not fun to buy foreign cards now with import tax

before I could buy AE cards with no customs

now I can't

[gritty ridge]

Is bakugan still peak

[tropic summit]

the internet exist, there's probably certain places where you can get your hands on those for free

[gritty ridge]

I liked opening packs too tho

[forest zodiac]

sorry, I have to ask so I don't waste attempts doing stupid shit what do I do here
what noise even does here other than taunt? (rookie arena)

[gritty ridge]

Yes I wanna see koribo for the 900th time

[gritty ridge]

Burst

Anis becomes re-enter

[swift mango]

I mean those aren't AE version, asia vendor sell US and UK version too, even Korean, China and Franc. The just bought those boxes pre order or shit to open and voila, rare card. Shopee is easier to put things on than Ebay.

[placid bloom]

yeah but you can buy Euro version of cards easy in US because they will travel to Euro YCS and trade, it's not easy to buy AE cards

[tropic summit]

he's just stacking CP, run indom variants and they'll out trade

[placid bloom]

that's why AE card is hard to collect

[gritty ridge]

If he adds helm it's a proper team

[tropic summit]

trading card hobbies are so expensive

[tropic summit]

no biscuit no blanc, he's making it very easy on the attacker

[gritty ridge]

Rail its a proper 1.5 rl team

[swift mango]

Yeah, It's weird Quarter Ancient fairy dragon AE version that's not gold stamp has market price of 20$ and US version only 7$.

[tropic summit]

it doesn't matter, no blanc and that team loses to anisTT blanc BS

[forest zodiac]

thanks it worked

[tropic summit]

SWHA B3 takes years to put pressure there

[gritty ridge]

Well thats why its usually helm b3

[tropic summit]

see @gritty ridge

[forest zodiac]

did it with that

[gritty ridge]

Well yeah hes using lib for some reason, shes adding nothing lol

[tropic summit]

just stack biscuit blanc and anisTT

[gritty ridge]

Also I saw fish

Speak up fish

[tropic summit]

rookie is doomed

until SU releases a unit that denies invulnerability anyway

[gritty ridge]

Youre right, I can use bready and just win

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

US has high print run, there is like 100x more cases of US product opened than AE. AE didn't even have product I think between GX era and like 2 years ago

[tropic summit]

record your bready against an anisTT blanc biscuit archetype

[gritty ridge]

Nobody runs that in my bracket

[tropic summit]

don't you have korean boi who can run that shiet

[gritty ridge]

I dont think ive ever had a Korean person in my bracket

[tropic summit]

weren't you in touch with some asian lad?

[gritty ridge]

@real sentinel are you secretly korean

[tropic summit]

maybe my memory is fuzzy tho

[gritty ridge]

Also rail, I gave fish conflicting indom info

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

as long as he doesn't start using bready indoms in the counters

[umbral crown]

Bigboi fake global player not having asian people

[placid bloom]

[gritty ridge]

Im in NA you goof

[oak smelt]

Oh NA

[umbral crown]

Thats explains everything

[oak smelt]

Global is different

[umbral crown]

We built different

[gritty ridge]

I said theres 3 main indom variants being bisc, jackal, and rapu

[umbral crown]

Rapu main indom

[gritty ridge]

And that you typically wanna seperate bisc and jackal

[umbral crown]

[placid bloom]

they should make Blanc be able to indom herself, ruin everyone's team

[swift mango]

Is there a difference in price between US and UK version of a card where you live? Here UK version usually more expensive, sometime even 1.75 times more expensive sold by the same vendor both NM.

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

No I think my blanc would have to be half hp to indom over my dps lmao

[umbral crown]

No

[gritty ridge]

C7 vs lb0

[tropic summit]

he hasn't even used once the regular proper indom

[gritty ridge]

He has now

[tropic summit]

let's hope so

[gritty ridge]

I had him build me some teams yesterday

[placid bloom]

yeah it is slightly more expensive cuz people will charge more cuz they had to pay to travel to EU to get the cards. But US card also more expensive in Europe so it's basically just travel tax tbh

[gritty ridge]

It seems one of his main issues with stall teams was he thought they needed to be slow

[tropic summit]

so if he fails the last sets i gave him it's your fault? nice

[tropic summit]

forget slow, he was bursting with biscuit and laplaceT

[swift mango]

Well, it's more about quality difference here than tax.

[gritty ridge]

I had him try to reverse engineer these to see what they do

[tropic summit]

are you really giving him nero moran already

[placid bloom]

the main thing is that other countries in EU can also get English product, not just their own language so it's not like UK is the only country that can get EU English print

[gritty ridge]

He actually had a better grasp on it than the other 2

[tropic summit]

you sure it wasn't just luck?

[gritty ridge]

Fish is a smart boy

[charred quail]

set 1:
t1. moran noah vestiTU helm noise
t2. anis swha blanc biscuit laplaceT

[placid bloom]

well for starlight rare I don't think EU looks as good on most cards, their ink is too dark. I think the main diff is their CR and UltR look better

[swift mango]

Yeah, UK just means EU eng print. It's historically known that US print quality and material for cardboard are worse than UK. But I guess it's not much a difference to make pricing difference for you.

[tropic summit]

t1: dead noah (position is wrong, team is almost correct, moran noise vestiTU helmT noah, although B3 choice is still weak)
t2: indom laplaceT, dmg is too little on p2, SG kicks laplaceT in indom as lowest HP unit

[charred quail]

set 2:
t2. jackal swha blanc ada centi
t3. moran noah helm vestiTU biscuit

[charred quail]

oh bruh

[gritty ridge]

I couldn't correct the moran noise too much cuz im not the most familiar with it

[tropic summit]

let's see this one

[gritty ridge]

He gave me 2 scary teams tho

Fish i bully you only a little bit

Its how I show my love

[placid bloom]

yes, now kiss

[gritty ridge]

[tropic summit]

T2 is wrong, SWHA is a bad choice to burn biscuit stacks in p1 and p2, also ada has by far not enough dmg to burn biscuit stacks
T3 moran and noah are biscuit protected, helmT is a bit of a bad choice but at least you've a chance to outtrade, not the best but not wrong

@charred quail you still didn't grasp anti nuke and indoms

[gritty ridge]

Fish are you just putting the teams we made against other teams???

[placid bloom]

[gritty ridge]

I'm not a good teacher for technical things

[charred quail]

no

[charred quail]

bruh fr?

[gritty ridge]

The teams themselves work, but theyre not being used to counter the right things

[charred quail]

i was identifying which 1 is nuke anti nuke stall etc. i put considerable thought into this or i thought

[swift mango]

not enough get modded

[charred quail]

💀

[tropic summit]

@charred quail

• when you see moran noah biscuit archetype, you need to burn their stacks pre burst, or you'll be stuck as indom. This is where you want vestiTU as minimun requirement and add a splasher or SG to help her burn stacks (e.g. laplaceT)
• when you see biscuitless moran, you can punish with swha instead

in both cases above, always pay attention to what enemy is running as pressure although, because in some cases you need to slot biscuit to prevent dying pre B2 (e.g. against vestiTU emilia or other hard hitters)

the indoms you'll nearly always run:

• blanc swha rh biscuit jackal (if enemy has high pressure)
• indom blanc rh battery jackal (if enemy has low pressure and link can survive, also if p2 isn't murdered)

[placid bloom]

I think we trying to be too fancy keep things simple

[gritty ridge]

Thats still improvement tho, knowing how to build a functional team is good

[tropic summit]

the choice of B3 is manly for what you facing, typically if biscuit is slotted or not

as for anti nuke, you've not really had consistency in the teams you make, you put noah in random places and fail to understand synergy with moran and biscuit

noah without biscuit: go p4 or p5
noah with biscuit: go any p, ideally p1 or p2

moran doesn't need protection in most cases, so she nearly always goes p1

anti nuke are fine without biscuit in most cases, especially if slotting moran and safe p2

e.g.:

• noise rumani cindy helmt noah
• moran anisTT cindy helmt noah
• moran rumani lib helmt noah

you need noah to be away from p1 p2 p3 when against vestiTU, unless she's behind biscuit

with the info above, i'm going to give you another set, you gotta get it right this time

[charred quail]

i have 20m before i need to leave. yessir

[swift mango]

I remember read on reddit that all EU yugioh cards are printed in Belgium.

[gritty ridge]

I swear I said Noah has to go in p4 or p5 without bisc

[tropic summit]

@charred quail you can do this, you've all the knowledge you need

conditions: use 1 indom 1 anti nuke, 2 wins out of 3, no deficit/core advantage

[gritty ridge]

I dod

[tropic summit]

20 mins are enough

you should need 1 minute for these, take ur time

[charred quail]

i might have missed it

[gritty ridge]

T2 is interesting

[tropic summit]

regularly testing if he understands to pick the 2 easier teams

[quaint granite]

[gritty ridge]

These are teams id see from my whales lmao

[tropic summit]

very common archetypes

[swift mango]

Noah p5, Noise p1-2, Noise taunt prio

[gritty ridge]

Sir thats noise not moran

[swift mango]

Noise is used as Biscuit replacement

Moran p1, noise p2 still burst

with moran noah

[charred quail]

t3. blanc swha red hood biscuit jackal
t1. moran anis vesti helm noah

[tropic summit]

let's see

[gritty ridge]

Please specify which anis

[tropic summit]

10/10, this one is spot on

https://klipy.com/gifs/emunene-emu-otori-5--k01KS361GV442FXRKE0T63M141Z

[charred quail]

my bad. it's star anis. i thought we all assume that though

[quaint granite]

Empty vs that team

[tropic summit]

ye anisTT was assumed, @gritty ridge is just boolin' you

we can move to the next step now @charred quail

i'll give you unique or gimmick based teams next

i'll throw in a few fast balls to test although if it wasn't a coincidence you got anti nuke and indom right

[gritty ridge]

Im just saying, anis is used sometimes

[charred quail]

i think i was lacking the info that you gave just now

[tropic summit]

yeah perhaps it helped

butting heads against walls works

[swift mango]

I forgot anis sr existed for months now

Those good ole day when Anis actually arena meta.

[charred quail]

bigboi helped with training idetnifying which is nuke anti nuke etc

[gritty ridge]

She still is for CA

[shell hazel]

and the training sessions is concluded

Rail charges $100 per hour the invoice will follow soon

[swift mango]

nah, not enough slot, Sometime even Centi, rumani not used

[charred quail]

for this one:
t1. nuke ( no immune/dmg reduce units)
t2. indom (has blanc)
t3. moran noah is stall

[tropic summit]

correct

[gritty ridge]

I question your teams heavily if youre dropping 3 batteries

[tropic summit]

next direct step is testing your understanding of invulnerable units and denying damage

you can take ur time with this @charred quail

The hint here is: use biscuit properly

[swift mango]

Scarlet no longer meta, 2.5rl teams are viable now. Label and slow cindy around. SW make team 2.2rl easily.

[shell hazel]

@tidal lichen

[charred quail]

set1
t1. nuke
t2.stall
t3.indom

set2
1.indom
2.stall
3.nuke

ima need to go now.

ill complete the ones with gimmicks tonight

[tropic summit]

ye no problemo

[tropic summit]

also correct

[gritty ridge]

Fish cooked for my teams??

I was gonna say, those 3 stalls weren't meant to be cooked for lol

[shell hazel]

@oblique gyro

we're like 1 x Kara short here @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor

[tropic summit]

dafuq is that rank 84

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/none-of-my-business-awkward-gif-26775303

[shell hazel]

[tidal lichen]

[oblique gyro]

what have i done ?

oh you're with cultists okey haha

[gritty ridge]

Nayu sg? Interesting

These 3 seem easy enough, lets hope fish pulls through

[charred quail]

👍

[shell hazel]

yeah we sneaking up 😄

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/stark-fern-fern-dragging-stark-dragged-stark-dragged-gif-13686376203748905094

[gritty ridge]

Tho I will say, what id cook and what fish will cook will most likely be very different

Especially for t2

[tropic summit]

he has the tools, he should

[umbral crown]

Auto and hope for the best

[gritty ridge]

That only works for you cuz your auto teams are still pvp teams

[umbral crown]

probably

[rich agate]

how do I beat Noah/Biscuit/TVesti/Helm/AnisS

[severe tundra]

Railtracer running an after-school program?

[rich agate]

this dudes anis is just railing my team man

[charred quail]

Cause of deficit?

[gritty ridge]

Sometimes when asked politely

[tropic summit]

anisTT blanc helmt biscuit swha

anisTT quantum
blanc vigor
helmt tempering
biscuit vigor
swha tempering

[gritty ridge]

Nah, even when considering equal invests

[charred quail]

[gritty ridge]

I actually threw 3 teams together to compare with urs once you've cooked

[shell hazel]

[gritty ridge]

Cuz my teams are evil villain teams

[shell hazel]

[gritty ridge]

Hello tav

[tropic summit]

if he starts coming up with bready indoms or miranda p1 i know who it was

[shell hazel]

Ohayo bigboi

[gritty ridge]

I used neither of them

[shell hazel]

propaganda bleeding into the teaching? 😄

[gritty ridge]

Are you still hippo or no

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hmm-suspect-1--k01KS36XKFVMKDYZX19W4AA0KA7

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit tell me what that t2 does to p1-3

[shell hazel]

tav / hippo you can call me either

[gritty ridge]

Or just think abt it

[shell hazel]

my in game name was always tav I just aligned it lol

[gritty ridge]

Then think abt the cooks ive done

[tropic summit]

just call tav hippo

and call hippo tav

[gritty ridge]

Rail pookie you wanna see my teams?

In secret so fish cant see

[tropic summit]

for which set?

[shell hazel]

2 people. 2 names!

[gritty ridge]

Thisn

[shell hazel]

btw zanta added some new set menus

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-got-like75personalities-unique--k01KS37BYZMV19T3Q53XSMS8HJR

[shell hazel]

so I can see what we get with new set menus

[tropic summit]

go ahead pookie

[rich agate]

Ah that worked thank you. That was the same units I was already using but you worked your magic as always

[quaint granite]

Zanta Railing Hippo

[shell hazel]

ZRH - a new tech

[versed mesa]

I only have 1 and it is crap

[quaint granite]

[tropic summit]

might've been just ordering perhaps
either way glad it worked

[quaint granite]

some elite company lmfao

[shell hazel]

shihai I need money

pls send

[tropic summit]

shihai i need money

pls send

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/defeat-me-win-lose-a-day-may-come-aragorn-gif-16599762272633184369

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sugar-apple-fairy-tale-ann--k01KS37EN9AV9AWBFSKHF34N56G

[versed mesa]

I need money but I will not beg

[quaint granite]

@versed mesa back me up

[rich agate]

Yeah had to be because my P3 was dying before I could even finish B2

[severe tundra]

I need a team that is inconsistent to fight. I'm tired of getting bodied in rookie by the same 2 guys.

[tropic summit]

all the anisTT blanc biscuit variants are cancer

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/goblin-slayer-stressed-priestess-anime-you-get-used-to-it-gif-13752108

[quaint granite]

Rookie don't mean much, SPA is what you should concentrate on

[gritty ridge]

Alright rail i sent you my homework

[tropic summit]

slap any of these @severe tundra :

• anisTT blanc helmt biscuit swha
• anisTT blanc vestiTU biscuit helmT
• anisTT blanc privT biscuit swha
• anisTT blanc vestiTU biscuit emilia

[quaint granite]

We get to relax before reset KEK

[versed mesa]

Why not C1?

[gritty ridge]

Cant

He employed anti -anti deficit measures

[quaint granite]

Just farm someone in Rookie before reset should do the trick

[shell hazel]

I wasn't expecting it to work

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/counting-my-money-gif-16287862988530902702

[shell hazel]

just if it did I could quit work

[gritty ridge]

My last atk in rookie was like a month ago

[severe tundra]

I'm 3 in rookie and 4 in SP

[gritty ridge]

I dont really have a need to atk in rookie, I get plenty of tickets from CA and spa

[severe tundra]

Full credit to Railtracer

[versed mesa]

I don't even want to be "rich", if I could just live without having to work would be heaven

[shell hazel]

too far away for me lol - I agree don't need tons of money but need some income stream

[versed mesa]

I've been unemployed for 3 years

[shell hazel]

I worked since I could - I'd love a nice break lol

but don't mind it for now

[charred quail]

Shihai I need money

Pls send

[versed mesa]

I won't get into the details, but I have mental health stuff going on and the job market is awful over here even if I had none of that.

[shell hazel]

shit he learning the wrong things lol

[gritty ridge]

He learned the real pvp strat

[shell hazel]

meant to be learning pvp, learning instead

[gritty ridge]

The real 0vp strat is spend 15k on nikke levels

[shell hazel]

yeah I wasn't gonna pry people got their reasons 🙂

if you not homeless that is main thing

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-true-kramer-seinfeld-gif-6564373007119861775

[charred quail]

Glad you aren’t homeless Nix

[shell hazel]

[versed mesa]

Before I get too

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddes-of-victory-nikke-stellar-blade-eve-gif-10542806863475849254

^ Gives me life

[tropic summit]

oh ye forgot to ask, you managed to snipe on reset or he got a new def? @versed mesa

[hollow lagoon]

[tropic summit]

now he gonna need to gem again

[versed mesa]

He seems to be fully f2p so I doubt he will gem

But you never know

He was online though clearly waiting for it, but either I timed my hit properly, or if he managed to hit attack he lost

[tropic summit]

you find out in 2 hours once you're able to check history anyway

[versed mesa]

Yea

Still my old defense but with the cp jump from 741

[tropic summit]

think he probably missed the timing anyway, if you did it seconds away from reset

because the change won't show up before reset hits

[versed mesa]

Yeah, I didn't go for the super close hit like you suggested, but there was like 10 sec until 00 when the load finished so would have been really tough

[tropic summit]

oh then 10s is actually enough, he probably tried

[heavy lodge]

how to beat this team?

anis/nayuta nor moran/noah helped

[versed mesa]

Weirdly it would nice if he did but lost, it means my previous defense might still hold for a bit longer, unless he can cp pad extra

[tropic summit]

finally a non anisTT team

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit helmt siren swha

[tropic summit]

if you shifted order and he barely had time he probably auto'ed with whatever he had set

which drops drastically the odds he had the right counters

[heavy lodge]

wow not even close, thanks

[versed mesa]

I did, I went for almost every trick I could think of

[tropic summit]

real booly

surprised you managed to hold in ch4 for 2 days straight without giving in to the temptation

[heavy lodge]

if i were to use this team as defense team, which teams would counter it? fast vesti indom? or anis privatyT im thinking

[versed mesa]

I do think like those defense of his that I posted a few days ago, him using manchor on defense might mean he doesn't have super pvp focused builds, or low cp and has to use suboptimal units for pad

[versed mesa]

You have no idea how hard it was But I trusted the process

[tropic summit]

yeah it's weak to indom swha and to the usual BS anisTT blanc biscuit archetypes

just the indom variant without blanc in p1 if anything

[tropic summit]

underdogs have their hands forced into sub optimal lineups to avoid being gapped

[heavy lodge]

current rookie defense team but thinking of switching someone out for biscuit
unless there's a better layout

[tropic summit]

anisTT blanc helmt biscuit swha if you wanna add difficulty to it

[versed mesa]

Yup, I was once in that position. I have become what I swore to destroy.

[gritty ridge]

Nuh uh

Just embrace the cp gap

[tropic summit]

[quaint granite]

Make a wide gap and you homerun

[shell hazel]

you'll need to not have nikkes set to private here

[shell hazel]

also your hard mode looks super slack lol

30 normal + 7 hard mode is

[versed mesa]

🧱

[shell hazel]

I'd recommend trying to keep normal + hard mode pushed reasonably for your outpost income

[quaint granite]

For the grind push to your limit

[gritty ridge]

Embrace the cp gap, become molded by it

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-batman-gif-17534784258260085054

[cedar sorrel]

Insane union names

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/defeat-me-win-lose-a-day-may-come-aragorn-gif-16599762272633184369

[charred quail]

I had a good grasp on team two as well but I didn’t specify Moran bay giving whole team damage reduce and swha being the dps

[frigid tundra]

But it's scawy

[gritty ridge]

Yeah, t2 works specifically because moran+bisc+bay

[gritty ridge]

Do not be afraid

[charred quail]

Ima get started on Rail’s new set. Since I’m on break right now

[haughty mortar]

How do I beat this

[obsidian tangle]

I should be fine right? My teams are the ones below, at least 2-1?

[obsidian prairie]

Is high level PVP really calculating each fight? I assume people are more likely to stay on one rank and you only fight if you drop?

[tropic summit]

anisTT blanc privT biscuit helmT

[tropic summit]

no, it's calculating points based on rank

the more you hold an high rank the more the score you slowly gain, keeping that rank for a long time will ensure you hit high rank

[tropic summit]

P1 looks iffy but may work
P2 win
P3 lose, you aint popping stun in p2 against that enemy lineup

[obsidian tangle]

🤔 what could I improve?

[obsidian prairie]

Sorry I mean from a players perspective, I only really have ~17 units I could realistically put in my team so my attack=defense and I am also very far behind the other players on my server so anything above diamond 7 is not playable due to massive deficit. I meant that high level PVP attacks are all calculated based on the defending team?

[tropic summit]

nothing, run those, it's likely 2 wins, the counters are correct

[obsidian tangle]

you think replacing biscuit to make team 2rl would be better?

[obsidian prairie]

Like using the teambuilder to figure out the optimal attacking team

[tropic summit]

i don't get your question tbh

CP is calculated to apply penalty or not, multiply enemy team CP for 0.846, if your team is above that value there's no penalty, if it's below you start getting penalty

[tropic summit]

there's no teambuilder, there's burst gen calculator

[tropic summit]

no it's fine run those, it's iffy because it depends on your vestiTU ammo and CS%

if you're on x2 ammo and 5%+CS it's fine

[quiet fiber]

What can I use against this?

This is

[tropic summit]

the one without biscuit you can murder blanc in p2 (scarlet vestiTU trina jackal swha, scarlet assumed linked)
the one with biscuit all i can say: good luck

[obsidian tangle]

only 1 amo but black line, no CS and 40% atk

[quiet fiber]

They're very similar now that I post them next ot each other

[tropic summit]

yeah iffy, but give it a shot

[tropic summit]

they're not, one has biscuit the other doesn't, the one without you can kill blanc and deny B2, which is huge

[obsidian tangle]

alright

[charred quail]

@tropic summit t2: noah anis biscuit, Swha, Helm

T1:
vesti blanc red hood centi jackal

I was also thinking of putting Moran in team 1 instead of red hood

[quiet fiber]

I'll give it a try brb.

[versed mesa]

@tropic summit Checked just now, he didn't have time to counter. No log of failed attack

[tropic summit]

T1 is wrong because rosanna directly counters that, although on some rare cases it may work, it is not the right counter
T2 is correct

the point here was to pick the 2 weaker teams, that'd be T2 and T3 or T1 and T3

T1 can be denied by preventing sacc and denying dmg in p5 (shotguns shoot p5 when you attack, just put a moran or nayuta or biscuit locked team)

T2 you already got it right, resistant p1 and p2 with a sacc unit in p3, so it's correct

T3 was your generic glass cannon, you could counter with both indom or anti nuke here, trina is also their only B2 so you could've denied also with hard hitting units for p2 (vestiTU + lappy + SWHA)

overall: you didn't pick the 2 weakest teams, 1 counter out of 2 was correct, keep trying

[haughty mortar]

Will keep you posted.

[charred quail]

So putting Moran in t1 was correct? I’m still having issues identifying what teams to skip

[quiet fiber]

It worked thanks.

[quiet fiber]

Is the biscuit team an infamous coin toss match? I've seen many run that team.