pvp-arena

[quick lake]

I had rta SPA pvp. Atking and defending, crafting new SPA teams in seconds

and alot of gems spent

[lone sequoia]

easier than this "tbs"

i want more content and fixes for the base game, i don't understand why they add more system that get scrapped just to sell some songs in a event mini game

[tropic summit]

5 rounds, gotta cook teams on the spot, best of 3, alternating attack and defense

[lone sequoia]

don't forget picks and bans

if you ban tt and jackal they will lose

[tropic summit]

or better ban noah and bay, suddenly folk and anchorIM become valuable

[quick lake]

this would be fun

[glad meteor]

Ban moran

[quick lake]

5 teams and bans

[glad meteor]

Just ban everyone pvp meta

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-double-thumbs-up-like-agreed-yup-gif-14284264219182206721

[quick lake]

Back to 3RL meta

[tropic summit]

ban all of the SSS and SS tier units , ensue chaos

[quick lake]

ban all clipRL

[lone sequoia]

makima DoT will win

[versed mesa]

Ironically, if they made the minigame it's own separate spin off app/game completely, I might actually be ok with them selling song packs Selling them while the main game already feels like they wanna milk you for everything you are worth, is just

[umbral crown]

Folkwang?

[glad meteor]

Yes

[umbral crown]

What does she even do

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

Give Lifesteal to 2 highest atk

[umbral crown]

Waos

Gonna SR15 her late so

[lone sequoia]

because they know the mini game is bad, the only reason people played it is because it was part of a event, it is the same as the genshin roblox

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

a champ folk team

[lone sequoia]

i prefer gmod, roblox suck

[umbral crown]

Waos... but... my anis is with nero

[versed mesa]

I think for a rhythm game it is pretty good, just tuned way too hard towards people who have played rhythm games their entire lives So no thank you on buying new songs.

[tropic summit]

can't run it, you 🧱

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

sleep is catching up from staying awake up to 4AM and sleeping only 4 hours for the altruia mald, i might fall asleep

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-dbz-gif-7898061486027510981

[tropic summit]

[lone sequoia]

i played osu for like 16+ years, rhythm games in general for like 20, the rank system is just bad, the songs in the easiest difficulty and hardest feel off, but for a mobile game is just fine

[tropic summit]

osu veteran

on what device you used to play Nesso?

[lone sequoia]

you don't play for fun, you only want the score and at higher kpm is just "i'm better than you" thing

[lone sequoia]

keyboard/mouse, other games were arcade

[tropic summit]

oh wow

[versed mesa]

I'm not making this a contest, just saying my pov as an occasional rhythm game dappler I think the game is fine, but way too difficult for someone like me, so having to pay for extra songs just doesn't gel with me

[tropic summit]

i remember it being pretty wild on keyboard and some ppl were prefering ipad or other devices

[lone sequoia]

the mobile app? it was fine, the device change a lot depending on the speed, tablet is the best device for mid-high speed games

for faster games you need a keyboard and just spam

[tropic summit]

oh tablet aswell ye

[umbral crown]

If she good then let me do the thing

[tropic summit]

[versed mesa]

I'm gonna make my own rhythm game, aimed at low response time boomers like myself

[lone sequoia]

i'm not saying it is easy or hard, i'm saying that the maps/stages feel weird, like you hear 3 taps, in one difficulty you get 2 and 4 in another one, never 3

[cedar sorrel]

Ive never played real rhythm games before and I quite like tts

[glad meteor]

[cedar sorrel]

Its pretty fleshed out

[umbral crown]

[lone sequoia]

we like tts

[umbral crown]

Skills at lv7 should work fine

[glad meteor]

For testing won’t do 7+

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

Books are not an issue

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-chansey-pokemon-idiot-upside-down-gif-16626866

meta commentary a sec

I hope if we ever get Bahamut SSR

her kit is released upside down

[glad meteor]

🐳

[umbral crown]

And i do not wheel books

[versed mesa]

Not great for someone at my synchro, but it is the best I could do

[glad meteor]

We can aim vulcan leg apparently

[quick lake]

we tried

[shell hazel]

[lone sequoia]

as always

or double hit alteisen

[shell hazel]

you carrying these boys tbh

[lone sequoia]

there were some bosses with shield that you can't skip

[quick lake]

what site is this

[shell hazel]

I made it

with claude and vibe coding

[quick lake]

very pog

[shell hazel]

I will see the updates post reset

[quick lake]

can u stalk me

[umbral crown]

Am i there?

[shell hazel]

I can if you got blabla open

[shell hazel]

I can't see union members sadly I have to add custom users

[shell hazel]

I got lots of shit in here including my own top nikke

[inner narwhal]

👍

[shell hazel]

it's from Bleach isn't it

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/bleach-nelliel-nell-nel-hollows-gif-18881207

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/kurosaki-ichigo-tybw-thousand-year-blood-war-soul-society-nel-gif-15648352912169404832

[umbral crown]

Nell

[cunning crown]

[shell hazel]

reminds me I need to do the latest bleach season

[umbral crown]

But tav, why skipping the god tier animes

[cunning crown]

you'll thank me for reminding you when it's revealed as the next collab

[umbral crown]

Rukia gacha skin

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/intrigued-annie-murphy-alexis-alexis-rose-schitts-creek-gif-5087208394393986611

[umbral crown]

Matsumoto pass

Orihime gacha

[cunning crown]

hinamori welfare jobber unit

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

I can add some custom people to my list of blabla users for analysis stuff

[umbral crown]

Hippo gonna add me and see the thing

[shell hazel]

gimme link

I'm not done tbh but I added a lot of shit to this

[shell hazel]

I added a nikke scoring system even

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

Rangiku

[shell hazel]

my anis star

[lone sequoia]

effect tier?

[umbral crown]

Was a bout to say something that might he spolier for hippo

[cunning crown]

yoruichi

[shell hazel]

my attempt to pull data and associate build level to scoring essentially

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/kenpachi-zaraki-gif-10819450281989825908

[shell hazel]

from latest season or manga?

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

Last season and manga

[shell hazel]

I did the new new season but not the new new new season if that makes sense?

[umbral crown]

Manga is alreay done years ago

[shell hazel]

I'm an anime season behind I believe

[umbral crown]

There are like 3 parts

[shell hazel]

but I did the new model one

[cunning crown]

put that hand away

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/kenpachi-zaraki-kenpachi-the-kenpachi-anime-bleach-gif-7237915399825563965

I watched this bit as I recall

this was near the end of where I got to

[cunning crown]

kenpachi and I have the same birthday, he's literally me

[shell hazel]

we went to like (spoiler here) || another level? of heaven type deal? ||

up a thing anyway

[umbral crown]

You know about his bankai?

[shell hazel]

Zael Kenpachi Bunny Aficinado? 😄

[umbral crown]

But zael kbows spanish...

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-blush-anime-toradora-taiga-gif-21298176

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Then u better watch the remaining seasons

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/kimetsu-no-yaiba-demon-slayer-tengen-uzui-uzui-anime-gif-3169481209821119279

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

I think it's just 1 I'm behind by

[umbral crown]

Good, you will love it. Trust

[shell hazel]

[cunning crown]

yeah last block of eps was really good

[versed mesa]

You can't just ask someone about their Bankai

[shell hazel]

you guys are good fun, why I made pvp-arena my home and basically don't post anywhere else here 😄

2 hits left I don't think even zant could finish this

[versed mesa]

I like Ichigo's Bankai, because it is basically "It's not the size, but how you use it."

[shell hazel]

question: who is the best waifu though in Bleach?

[versed mesa]

Rukia, no notes

[cunning crown]

elaboration unrequired

[shell hazel]

may win tbh

[shell hazel]

safu choice

I don't hate it

https://tenor.com/view/yoruichi-yoruichi-shihōin-anime-gif-5052829170063949155

[cunning crown]

also soi fon

[shell hazel]

may have to pick Yoruichi though

[cunning crown]

SF my beloved yoruichi lover

[shell hazel]

I mean my pfp is Naga so it may give a hint

not here but in game 😄

[versed mesa]

Yoruichi is top tier as well Rukia is only higher for me because I slightly prefer her personality, but Yoru very close second.

[glad meteor]

Yoru

https://tenor.com/view/its-over-chainsaw-man-asa-yoru-asa-mitaka-gif-27390499

[shell hazel]

Rukia was the hook that got me into it in the 1st place

hot anime waifu sleeping in my room let's go

[glad meteor]

[runic spear]

need help with a new SP Defense. All relevant Nikke have their treasure, and Centi is bricked.
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNjcxMTIyMjA2NjI3MzA4Mzg3NQ%3D%3D

[versed mesa]

Bricked Centi

[shell hazel]

[runic spear]

maybe they'll add a toggle one day for treasures

[shell hazel]

I'm sure I saw your name somewhere but not same?

not same TAZ?

[umbral crown]

But shikai?

[runic spear]

nah

[shell hazel]

oh no 100% not lol

[versed mesa]

They usually just let those hang out anyway for anyone to see

[shell hazel]

wow your sync lol, I wish I had that

you also carrying your union like Nixx

[runic spear]

I don't know if I am, but I do my part

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

you're probably most of this if you're competent

DM me if you want to consider better options we're clearing almost into p3, hoping we keep top 100 but that isn't why you're here

[versed mesa]

I don't like that the C4 who missed a day has been idling logged in for the past 6 hours

[shell hazel]

i'll check your nikkes quick

[cunning crown]

many noteworthy individuals in this union

[shell hazel]

like this guy 😄

[cunning crown]

[glad meteor]

🐳

Cookin

[shell hazel]

i'm adding pvp tier value to solo list

[umbral crown]

@glad meteor @tropic summit thing has been done

[shell hazel]

so I can more easily see it

[umbral crown]

50 purples, 220 blues

[shell hazel]

god damn went from 10 - 15

[umbral crown]

yeah, sometimes im lucky with dolls

[shell hazel]

I rarely get that

it's usually 11 or 12 - 15

[upper grove]

classic iron and fire skippers

[versed mesa]

I posted my UR to team building channel too and they are making fun of of my RRH

[shell hazel]

nah we focused it a bit but a lot could not hit fire well

some literally had nothing built but rapi

[umbral crown]

now she just missing OL because i have no rocks right now

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-sigma-sigma-patrick-bateman-american-psycho-i-dont-have-a-gif-for-this-gif-1885171871624852210

[umbral crown]

from SR0 to SR5 took 80 blues

[upper grove]

hmm that's an issue

[shell hazel]

yeah we try to fix a bit 🙂

did your union clear p2 sir?

[upper grove]

fire is in a very good spot for UR teams with both winter units + rapi and mihara

[upper grove]

yeah but it's not optimized, missing lots of dmg because of wasted yolo hits

[placid bloom]

Well this boss specifically not fun for fire

[shell hazel]

makes sense, we're fairly close to p2 clear

hopefully enough for top 100 still

[upper grove]

and some are just casual so a lot of heavy hitters are wasting their hits instead of going all out on lap 3

[hollow lagoon]

PLEAZ DONT HIT ME

[upper grove]

huh

[shell hazel]

much higher avg sync than us tbh makes sense 🙂

[upper grove]

yup sync carries so much

[upper grove]

but tbf, some hits can definitely be much higher

[shell hazel]

they got you as well which helps a lot tbh 😄

[hollow lagoon]

Hope we make the top 100 cut again

[upper grove]

the heaviest hitters are the old ex main union guys though

currently I'm 3rd but I could hit wind water fire

[shell hazel]

fingers crossed

[hollow lagoon]

I bad can’t hit for nothing

[shell hazel]

we all tried hard we see what we get

[upper grove]

you should be fine imo

[north brook]

Tbh its missing burst gen

[upper grove]

yeah just dodge wind/elec and get siren or anis, nothing we can do about it otherwise

[glad meteor]

I cope with sasuga helm

Rapi b1

[upper grove]

at least fire has 3 great b3

[hollow lagoon]

or swha

[north brook]

Need a fire helm type support otherwise its cope or hurt other team

[hollow lagoon]

or b1 osanis

my ele neutral osanis is great fer muh fire

[shell hazel]

my issue here is half-baked build on xdie

[upper grove]

I skipped electric so I was able to use anis on fire

[shell hazel]

need more rocks for xdie

[north brook]

Iron other hand truly lost

[glad meteor]

Fire was indeed pretty weak in comparison

But is what it is

[shell hazel]

what is your current def sir?

[north brook]

We prob getting new pilgrim iron next anniv

[upper grove]

anis would benefit fire much more than water imo

[shell hazel]

I got data I can prob make something but useful to know what you running now

[glad meteor]

Hmm

[lone sequoia]

sdoro was better in water team

[north brook]

Yeah needs to drop mast

Mast just good in campaign for high atk

[glad meteor]

Yh. Saw some numbers. Peoples sdoro swha was too smoliar

[upper grove]

mmast is fine with anis b1

[glad meteor]

[upper grove]

mmast outperformed selegg on water with anis b1 for me, but performed worse than selegg with any other b1

[glad meteor]

MMast on 3 still pretty good in most places

[upper grove]

I lost ~4b with moran instead of anis in water, but gained 5b+ with anis on fire

[lone sequoia]

naga is still good

[glad meteor]

For ultra

[lone sequoia]

for core hitters

[shell hazel]

(in bed)

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

[shell hazel]

pepper max core

indom lib no good imo

let's see...

[versed mesa]

Alrighty the C4 hit me while I was logged to alt for a bit.

Need to slow down my indom, but without Vesti dying before I get mine

I can win against his other 2 teams so that is fine, but would like to get all 3

[hollow lagoon]

Reenter b1

Reenter b1s that healz

[versed mesa]

Hmm

[lone sequoia]

just use cindy there

[last vigil]

How to beat this team

[shell hazel]

I added you to friend pls accepto as well

[versed mesa]

This is the T1 matchup, him on the top, me on the bot.

Already got it back, but just incase he does a snipe with second ticket, or on the next time he hits me otherwise. Of course if he changes defense that is a moot point

[rich quail]

What’s this all aboot

[lone sequoia]

@rich quail +1

[glad meteor]

@rich quail +2

[rich quail]

I’M NOT A TOY TO BE PLAYED WITH

[versed mesa]

It's showing up like the guy who hit me seemingly logged out a few minutes after it, but I don't trust it

I could swap defense, but only a few days left so I would just be giving him time to figure out counters to that.

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-woody-toy-story-handshake-handshake-meme-meme-gif-6733294716339523020

Guys. Don’t search toy on gifs

[ionic rose]

what a lewd statement u made there

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-read-gif-22252869

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-toystory-dance-wink-pose-gif-3461903969838330745

[glad meteor]

Did you see it

Running through the woods

[shell hazel]

I didn't search it yet but my imagination says it might be good. reality says probably not.

[glad meteor]

Reality is right

[shell hazel]

should I?

[glad meteor]

be my guest

[shell hazel]

maybe I'll eat my dinner first 😄

[restive heart]

should i slow indom this team?

[ionic rose]

make it as slow as possible, u want TAnis is deal dmg for as long as possible; actually remember the slow cindy mihara comp? just treat TAnis like Rumani, I remember Rumani always gets the indom in that team, except now TAnis will wipe

[restive heart]

i did that but its 50 50

[ionic rose]

try the same positioning - TAnis, Blanc, Biscuit, Cindy, Mihara
if i remembered that correctly, i rarely see the slow cindy comp now

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/uh-no-oh-nooo-gif-25193256

You naughty

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-14770887436103544323

[rich quail]

toy, indeed

[viscid urchin]

Hello, I need help upgrading my attack and defense line-ups. It’s been a good while since I made changes and people have since started hunting me in SPA again.

Is there anything I can start switching around for this?

[arctic jewel]

@ionic rose I forgot to say this earlier, congrats for winning!! 🎉

[gritty ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/uh-no-oh-nooo-gif-25193256

[shell hazel]

[upper grove]

nice you climbed higher

[shell hazel]

we cooking with gas just p2 wall a pain

[upper grove]

I will have to hit iron next time, shit is walling

[swift mango]

While my Anis is still 11 lines her CP, CS and Ammo are good enough now. I guess she won't get that 12th line ever. Wasted like 40 rocks for failing that but whatever.

[upper grove]

40 rocks, rich

[swift mango]

My Iron ironically higher dmg than fire so I just hit Iron anyway.... Could hit Water for more dmg but whatever other will finish that boss better than me.

[swift mango]

40 rocks for nothing.

So I give up

[upper grove]

classic rock RNG

[versed mesa]

One day I will defeat... Actually I won't, because I don't care @hollow lagoon

[scarlet adder]

@tropic summit this would beat jackal swha moran vestitu blanc is my guess? stunned vesti could carry this ?

[hollow lagoon]

i will defeat you one day

[shell hazel]

I will also defeat you one day

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/aragorn-but-notthis-day-lotr-gif-14120761

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-3rd-anniversary-nikke-anniversary-nikke-anni-gif-18079251454112931467

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/aragorn-but-notthis-day-lotr-gif-14120761

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/aragorn-but-notthis-day-lotr-gif-14120761

[severe tundra]

Could use some help with countering these teams (team 3 has indom so I don't care too much about that one)
Here's who I have to work with: https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtMTIxODg1NDA2MTIyMDUxOTk1NDk%3D

[umbral crown]

congrats

[shell hazel]

thanks Rosy 🙂

may your pvp be blessed to win

[umbral crown]

yeah,thats the hope

[shell hazel]

next CA champ run trust the process

[versed mesa]

I trust that Advance will go as expected....

[shell hazel]

not mine always sadly lmao

[undone blaze]

Is it worth OL'ing a non treasured Moran?

or should I focus on Blanc or something to try to slot her into my teams

[gritty ridge]

Moran is top tier pvp regardless of treasure

[undone blaze]

Chest > Helm > Boots > Gloves?

[umbral crown]

of course, you will treasure her eventually

[rich quail]

Which cube should I put on Pribbity Privaty?

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-1105617598331461830

[viscid urchin]

@keen vapor and @tropic summit I don’t know if you will respond and I apologize for bothering you guys this way, but someone recommended you guys for team building regarding SPA and I could really use some guidance.

Was recently knocked off my usual spot and have not been able to climb back up. So…I need an overhaul, badly. If you are able to, please help. I am unfortunately far too stupid to understand building for PvP but at the same time I don’t appreciate being someone else’s punching bag while knowing I cannot strike back at them.

[late tiger]

does neon in pvp make sense? I haven't seen actual adoption yet

[umbral crown]

the few uses i give her in pvp i use tempura

[rich quail]

thanks

[charred quail]

im 1 batter off from level 7 tempering

[rich quail]

[viscid urchin]

@shell hazel you were also recommended and as above, I apologize for asking for help out of the blue.

[shell hazel]

I don't cook teams that often but if you got an open blabla link I can take a look - and let me know what your current def is like

Rail is overworked basically every day sadly but he is the true expert

[versed mesa]

That is why I always wait until I literally can't figure something out myself, before asking Rail. He da mvp though

[shell hazel]

if we were running a pvp MLM (we're not - probably) Rail would be the boss at the top of the pyramid

[shell hazel]

I try to use "summon Rail" as last resort lmao

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/bop-bop-bop-shoebody-bop-squad-summon-dark-magic-gif-13983602502478731881

[viscid urchin]

Hey sorry, I’d be more than happy to. Like I said, I am a F’ing idiot for PvP so any help is better than what I could ever cook with.

But I uhhh don’t know how to use the blabla or anything of the sort. Is it actually useful?

[shell hazel]

the cultist way is to to do this ritual 😄

[charred quail]

✅

[versed mesa]

I think his tolerance is much higher for someone new asking about pvp for the first time, unlike the rest of us who are just too dumb to remember "So, what was the slow Cindy team again??"

[shell hazel]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad link your account to it let's me see your nikke details if you add "open to public" (top right sharing options)

[shell hazel]

me: "who is Cindy again?" 😄

[rich quail]

Ask about her nuts

[charred quail]

rail is big and strong man. he carries all of us in this channel

[viscid urchin]

Oh Ok this will then have to wait until I return home to my PC. Right now I am on public transit with a not so stable connection.

Is that Ok?

At present I can post my DEF if you like on here

[delicate cove]

rail single handedly got me top 3 this season

[viscid urchin]

Sigh I wish I had his understanding for PvP. Or anyone else’s here’s knowledge.

But alas, I do not and I have no knowledge whatsoever. I was going to continue being OK with just D2 placement in NA…but recently I started getting hunted again and again and well…they poked the hoarding bear hard enough to care

[shell hazel]

post your blabla when you can link it will be easier as pvp is invest based

[charred quail]

[shell hazel]

if you didn't build jackal she will not be usable

noah etc

[viscid urchin]

I mean I got Jackal AND Noah. Invested in them though my luck with OL lines is minimal.

I do have 1400+ rocks and thousands of crates however to play with.

[shell hazel]

pvp units don't need lots of rocks tbh

better to invest rocks in pve units for campaign + hard mode push

jackal works with OL 4/4/4 and a doll SR-5 or better

[viscid urchin]

I think I have her at 7/7/7 OL gear and SR doll 5 already

[shell hazel]

when you post blabla will check in more detail saves time

[rich quail]

How is her charge speed?

[viscid urchin]

Understood. Also as a heads up, I really am stupid regarding PvP. So if I am asking beyond simple questions please treat me as a complete novice.

[shell hazel]

it's mostly a game of speed and primary b1/b2/b3 per team tbh

if you know what to look at and can use https://nikke-deck.com/en/deck you can figure some stuff out

[delicate cove]

is Trinas burst gen much better than bunny ades?

[versed mesa]

Bunny Ade is not even in the consideration for pvp

Unless you are extremely limited with your roster

[shell hazel]

trina probably has like 5 x the burst gen of b.ade 😄

yup

more than 5x b.ade at 2RL

[versed mesa]

Wait what about NeonOS vs Bade?

[shell hazel]

[delicate cove]

ye at the time i had pretty much no units

ooooo so do those numbers mean, how many rocketlauncher shots it takes to generate x amount of burst gague

so trina generates 28.8% of the gauge in 2 rocket launcher shots

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/pointing-that-is-correct-thats-right-good-job-way-to-go-gif-18723702

man you get some kind of reward for working that out

I thought it was how many RL units were in the team 😄

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/aladdin-genie-right-taught-gif-13861330

[shell hazel]

2RL = 2 RL units right?

[delicate cove]

i need more rocket launcher dolls ;-; actually poverty mode atm

[shell hazel]

eventually you will get all you need

[viscid urchin]

If I opened the link and logged in, is it now synched? I have never used blabla so this is all new for me

[delicate cove]

if its not someone u care much about CP wise do u eventually just slap on raw SR dolls once theyre more abundant

so like a noice forexample just raw rs launcher doll

[viscid urchin]

This is what popped up when I logged in @shell hazel

[shell hazel]

is that you?

[viscid urchin]

Yes this is me. Are nikkes immediately set to private or open?

[shell hazel]

then you must already be linked

[shell hazel]

private

top right has sharing options for link and also security settings

[viscid urchin]

Like this?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/shirosaki-hana-shirosaki-hana-anime-nod-nod-gif-3093171800157173367

there is a copy link option

[viscid urchin]

Like this?
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTIxMDYzMDg5NTk3MjAxOTQzNzU%3D

[shell hazel]

yeah das the one

[viscid urchin]

Good, looks like I am NOT completely [REDACTED]

So do I just...leave you be while you view the line-ups? Or rather the Nikkes I actually have?

[shell hazel]

I can check but post your current def meanwhile

[umbral belfry]

@drowsy urchin big fan

[viscid urchin]

Is that also done from blabla link or do I need to SS it and post it here?

[shell hazel]

not in blabla have to show here

[viscid urchin]

One second then

[delicate cove]

damn bro has so many of the giga chad tier list characters

id suck a prerpostrous amount of dih for jackal and noah

and moran

[viscid urchin]

I am an old player. I had time to collect things. I just...never really invested because again:

1. I am an idiot
2. I also hoard resources until the proverbial 💩 hits the fan and I get angry enough to start fixing

[shell hazel]

scarlet is pretty abusable as a main b3 these days

opponent either can catch with noah/bay at same speed or they just label it

[viscid urchin]

So...she is to be removed?

[delicate cove]

when u guys talk about speed is that at base or does that include average charge speed investment

[shell hazel]

potentially so if you got enough built stuff to do it

[shell hazel]

overall team speed

[viscid urchin]

Does that mean RLs and SGs? I only assume so because IIRC pvp wants you to hit multiple opposing teammates to build burst

[shell hazel]

R-15 jackal

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-shame-ringing-bell-walk-of-shame-gif-13316112511080767236

[cedar sorrel]

I need jackal and blanc sr15 their CP being below avg is so annoying

[viscid urchin]

Wait...did I NOT give her an SR doll?

[shell hazel]

each unit of the 5 shoots something and generates burst gen proportionally

whether RL or SG or SMG or w/e burst gen is based on unit and time

[shell hazel]

nope you didn't hence the shame gif

your new anis should be 10/10/10 for all purposes as well and she isn't

[viscid urchin]

Holy...damn...I think I was just low on the RL dolls during that time so I just never remembered

[shell hazel]

8/8/8 new anis

[viscid urchin]

Oh that? I was going to get to her I just need to open up some boxes for Electric mats.

Today was just a busy day

[shell hazel]

no excuses at your sync - fix it

[viscid urchin]

Aye boss. Going to that immediately

[shell hazel]

if I can do it at sync 561~ you def can at 701~

[viscid urchin]

I am not synch 701. I am 609

[shell hazel]

we will pretend we didn't see that

your b2 is OK but nayuta is pve meta and SR-5?

[delicate cove]

damn bros getting obliterated o.o

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HINwhIrXIAATL6H.webp

[viscid urchin]

Naturally. Remember: idiot

[shell hazel]

those are children in cat costumes!

[viscid urchin]

If I wanted to be coddled I'd go to reddit for a feelgood echo chamber

OK, Jackal SR5 doll done.
AnOS 10/10/10 done

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-18467370

[viscid urchin]

What's next boss? Like I said, I have resources to spare and I am out for blood

[quartz vortex]

what team comp beat this guy?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/paypal-30000-arknights-arknights-endfield-perlica-gif-604696076763371309

can't hurt to try

[shell hazel]

you in deficit bro run away

https://tenor.com/view/dahliabunni-angel-beats-gif-22681248

[viscid urchin]

I wish. No I mean it, if I were rich I'd pay you or @tropic summit to fix my account but I am not

[versed mesa]

I am always so worried that one day I come check and someone is here asking Rail how to beat my defenses

[shell hazel]

that's what your job is for 😄

[quartz vortex]

i know i just wanted to know what comp for future reference didnt plan on fighting him

[viscid urchin]

I earn 14/hour. Where do you think I will land 30K?

[shell hazel]

I don't cook deficit fights ever that way lies Cthulu

[shell hazel]

30000 / 14 hours

[undone blaze]

If Noah and Helm are linked...should I put Jackal in P4, P5 or keep her in P3?

[shell hazel]

@versed mesa your name is similar I choose you

https://tenor.com/view/anipoke-pokemon-gif-27553520

[gritty ridge]

Clip clip rosa blanc vesti

[gritty ridge]

P2

[viscid urchin]

@shell hazel
Right then, anything else needed to check? Are more fixes needed before I can start reworking the DEF team?

[versed mesa]

[undone blaze]

But then splash would hit her? Is that what I want?

[shell hazel]

I fixed my thing, your b3 pvp ish units

I'm not sure your 16% atk scarlet on SR-5 is gonna make it

but don't fix her it's not worth it anyway

RH at SS is generous - tier list is borked

wtf is your HelmT on 8/8/8

[versed mesa]

Yeah I think I would put Jackal P2 as well

[shell hazel]

HelmT skill 1 needs 10 minimum

else HelmT is also 10/10/10

[viscid urchin]

Did I need her at 10/10/10? She was my first Treasured unit, I wasn't sure what was the right move to use her for

[shell hazel]

10/10/10

[undone blaze]

Wouldn't that just kill Noah faster?

[viscid urchin]

On it

[gritty ridge]

Yes

[shell hazel]

but s1 HelmT 10 is absolute min it's her burst gen skill

[cedar sorrel]

Tf is this initial roll bro

[gritty ridge]

Yo twins

Dps manchor

[viscid urchin]

Done

[shell hazel]

I need that for someone else

[versed mesa]

What are you fighting against? If this is against a VestiTU team Noah is taking mega damage anyway

[shell hazel]

ok let me re-scrape it

[cedar sorrel]

I need that for a lot of someone elses 🤣

[cedar sorrel]

Soon 🔥

[gritty ridge]

Im more concerned on how Noah is linking over trina

[undone blaze]

Just general def

[shell hazel]

dats better

let's see what we can do then

[viscid urchin]

@shell hazel I...don't suppose you are also going to tell me to Treasure Moran and Privaty, yes? If so, Priv already has her treasure (just not invested) and Moran can get hers, I just need to unlock it (mats to max it out are prepared).

[versed mesa]

I hate you (not really, but still )

[shell hazel]

moranT yes please

biscuit doko?

[cedar sorrel]

[viscid urchin]

OK, I will treasure Moran today.

What about Biscuit? She is there. Or do you mean in the DEF team?

Oh right...I didn't put her in SPA. For some reason

[shell hazel]

yes I'm pretty sure your 1/1/1 biscuit with no doll or OL will win matches

sorry I'm being facetious haha

[viscid urchin]

OK so...Biscuit, needs OLs and how much for skills? Or are you just pulling my leg?

[shell hazel]

biscuit is a generally useful pvp unit for 2 reasons

[versed mesa]

Biscuit makes defense units invuln at 50% for a set time

[shell hazel]

1. OK burst gen (not the best not the worst)
2. main one - keeps up to 2 defenders alive no matter what almost

so you can throw a defender at p1 and biscuit will stop them dying

her immunity is a passive

base OL is likely fine = cp

skills a bit more needed

doll SR-5 min ideally

[viscid urchin]

No need to worry about OL lines for Biscuit. I may need to dig up an SR doll for her.

Let me get on that.

How much for skills?

[upper grove]

oh, the hoarder guy

[shell hazel]

teams v1

[umbral crown]

[viscid urchin]

I never hid the fact I hoard resources. It's my title after all

[shell hazel]

biscuit skills

mind you she not really bursting here

4/4/4 prob fine

[umbral crown]

Move the 10 to S2

[upper grove]

I know, I'm just surprised you finally use some rocks now

[shell hazel]

her skill 2 is better

4/7/4 biscuit to start with

[viscid urchin]

Wait, I thought we were building Biscuit for DEF? Or is she going for attack?

[umbral crown]

Both

[shell hazel]

both

[viscid urchin]

I mentioned it earlier, but lately I have been getting hunted and not being able to return to my original spot in SPA. The people that keep hunting me managed to piss me off enough to START caring enough to use them. I...thirst..for their blood. Because I am tired of being the punching bag

[upper grove]

pvp design working as intended

[lone sequoia]

ign?

[mystic rain]

skill issue

[upper grove]

if you have resources for lvl ups hoarded as well, just cp gap your bracket

[lone sequoia]

the 20~30k gem wars will start next story update, the CA "changes"

[viscid urchin]

I mean...yes? I said it multiple times that I am an idiot. But I also do not like others constantly trmpling on me so I WILL bite back

[upper grove]

I have no psycho like that in my bracket except one, who stopped hitting me after I opened my boxes

[mystic rain]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-my-reaction-to-that-information-angry-reaction-wolf-reaction-gif-27080186

[upper grove]

(and finally put in a non pad def team)

[viscid urchin]

OK @shell hazel I'll start work on Biscuit. Give me one second

[unique wagon]

@tropic summit how's Mint PvP

[delicate cove]

i think even if u can bite back u have to do it properly, i found that me and the other 2 in top 3 can all beat each other but whoever uses tickets last wins but its kinda fricked up cus if u dont hit soon enough the guy just gets all the score

[unique wagon]

Is she B or A

[shell hazel]

if you can build biscuit/moranT enough to be usable then maybe this - but you will ideally need a better b3 partner than Noir

[unique wagon]

Only Rail's opinion will be accepted cus the current TL is basically Rail's TL with modification

[viscid urchin]

Who do you suggest?

[shell hazel]

Ada if your SWHA not too many cores

[viscid urchin]

I do have Ada but...are you sure? She isn't built and only at LB0

[shell hazel]

else you could build Vesti TU for pvp and move Lib over

[viscid urchin]

I have VestiTU as well. Just again, unbuilt because I was scared to screw up her build

[lone sequoia]

i have some people like that, if you attack them after they attack you, they will gem... a lot
my ex alt sp bracket was like that, top10 +20k gems wasted on hits after the CA top4 thing

[shell hazel]

vesti TU is pvp monster

more so than Ada

[viscid urchin]

in that case, VestiTU >> Ada to prioritize?

[shell hazel]

with lib moved and vesti added (you'd need approx 11% CS Vesti)

[lone sequoia]

build for pve, if the unit have uses in pvp you can give some lines for that

[shell hazel]

note t1 has an empty spot - you can use whoever you want with high cp except not another b1

if you put another b1 with anis she becomes re-enter

[viscid urchin]

OK then, give me a little bit. Imma build Biscuit for review OK? Will inform when finished

[shell hazel]

Ada has more potential pve uses than Vesti TU these days

Vesti TU is specifically pvp monster

[upper grove]

20k gems is so damn cursed

[shell hazel]

especially at your 700~ sync you won't need campaign clear vesti anymore really

[viscid urchin]

Again, I am not 700. I am at 610 XD. My commander lv is 770 tho

[lone sequoia]

i think it was normal for people to burn above 3k gems during gem wars, but if you have a full sp bracket doing that, easier for them to join the fight and waste more

[umbral crown]

I would

[shell hazel]

I know I was joking

https://tenor.com/view/guardians-guardiansofthegalaxy-joke-reflexes-drax-gif-5023198

ok last time I really did get it wrong

[viscid urchin]

...OH GEEZ I am so sorry! I am apparently way too rattled to even understand that. My apologies m(_ . _)m

[lone sequoia]

remember to save rocks for iron scarlet

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/latom-gif-24537370

[upper grove]

iron saviour

[shell hazel]

my personal take - if you got resources and want pvp focus build Vesti TU some @viscid urchin

Ada is good and kind of works in both, but she is costly build wise

[versed mesa]

You could not pay me to waste even 2k gems for an SP season, much less 20k

[shell hazel]

Vesti TU just a good off-burst or high output AOE nuker to throw in any comp

[lone sequoia]

just build pve and use those units or focus in 2~3 good units that boost cp a lot

[viscid urchin]

Then I will leave her on the bench. I wasn't even going to roll for her. SHe just dropped on the free tickets that could only be used on her banner so I got her

[shell hazel]

Ada has one nice gambit, life steal indom lol

Vesti TU more universal PVP useful, throw in a team and she either good burst gen, good nuker, or both

she also good on campaign hard mode stages

ideally stuff you build is good in pve and pvp but not totally convinced on vesti in pve outside of hard mode chapters

[viscid urchin]

@shell hazel
Biscuit has OL, 4/7/4 and SR5 doll. Anything else to change for her before I start work on Vesti?

[shell hazel]

nah

vesti time, vesti costs more though

SR-5 min - SR-15 ideal

[viscid urchin]

Alright, kinda scary but I will try

[delicate cove]

all this sr5 talk makes me wanna throw up lowkey

[shell hazel]

mostly you want 12 good lines on vesti

[cedar sorrel]

My personal opinion is that elemental isnt that key to get since u usually use her on neutral anyway (not a bossing unit) still worth getting ele if u get it tho obv

[shell hazel]

so it usualy means rolling for good line 3

yeah I made a multi-role vesti

some CS, some atk/ele, some ammo etc

[viscid urchin]

I will try anyway.
In the meantime, what does Moran require...besides max treasure?

[cedar sorrel]

Mines 4 atk 2ammo 2cs and random stuff. Ill go for ele eventually

[shell hazel]

moranT 7/10/10

fav item

her OL doesn't matter too much just nice to get atk/ele/def

[viscid urchin]

And is Biscuit now OK @shell hazel ? I am not sure

[shell hazel]

yeah that's fine imo

[viscid urchin]

Good enough for me.

Now uhhh give me a moment it may be a while before I finish up Vesti

Are you going to need to be somewhere? I know I asked for help but this is on your own time and I should respect it

[shell hazel]

in bed at some point but not yet

[viscid urchin]

BTW What do the Orange squares represent? Fav items? But I thought I am not supposed to max out Centi?

[shell hazel]

I added as you maxed her right?

[viscid urchin]

No I uhh never maxed out her fav item.

[shell hazel]

ah you didn't

[cedar sorrel]

Yeah centi u go max phase 1 otherwise she gives feed to ur opp which sucks 99% of the time

[viscid urchin]

It isn't even started.

[shell hazel]

someone else mentioned it

it's same speed as normal centi it's fine

don't treasure her just use normal centi

[viscid urchin]

Not like I could...the materials aren't there yet anyway

Alright Vesti build time

[shell hazel]

ideally you want lots of good lines on vesti she strong

some CS, atk, ele, ammo, crit % / dmg

[cedar sorrel]

Yea try and go for 3rd lines of cs atk ele ammo and then custom lock and work ur way down

[shell hazel]

nice thing is a lot of stuff works on her 3rd line lol

[viscid urchin]

@shell hazel Vesti presently has SR15 doll, 7/10/10 (I DO have even more for her if 10 for S1 is demanded) but Lines are a bit...problematic. No ATK and no Ele

[shell hazel]

you need to full roll ideally until good line 3 appears (any stat she wants)

then you work it back to line 1/2 with locks as needed

[viscid urchin]

What do you suggest I fix first? Boots? It only has 1 stat sadly.

[shell hazel]

what I see on your vesti is literally 4/4000 rocks spent for default rolls

[viscid urchin]

That's because it was only the initial to unlock the OL gear. I am rerolling the boots as we speak

[shell hazel]

you need to full roll ideally until good line 3 appears (any stat she wants)

you got 0 good line 3's so the job here now is to roll for good line 3's

partially acceptable is no line 3 but you roll like atk/ele or something for 1/2

she can work with a lot of stat types so there isn't really too many bad lines for her

[viscid urchin]

Not good I presume, not even as preliminary?

[shell hazel]

it's good take it

good line 3

you need to temp lock the CS line 3 and keep rolling it

[viscid urchin]

Not Line 1?

[shell hazel]

no why?

line 3 is 30% chance to even exist

you never rolled from line 3 backwards before?

[viscid urchin]

Just making sure. Sometimes I was told to lock line 1 if a very good stat

[shell hazel]

it can work if it's super good but I mean this isn't

[viscid urchin]

More like I never OPTIMIZED before because I was frightened of making a mistake and wasting rocks. Why do you think I posses 1400 of them?

[shell hazel]

line 3 and roll in line 1/2 is the standard way to roll a 12 line unit like vesti

[cedar sorrel]

Also tvesti if multi purposing for pve + pvp needs 12/12

[shell hazel]

she wants 12 lines or close to even if pvp only

[cedar sorrel]

Yeah for sure

[shell hazel]

you worry too much wasting rocks is part of the game, they're basically wasted in your inventory anyway

I have like 0 rocks lol

[viscid urchin]

6th attempt. Damn I knew my luck was bad

[cedar sorrel]

This is good enough for now u can try and get other pieces up to speed

[shell hazel]

agreed

plus you don't know what else you roll

[viscid urchin]

Alright. Which one next then? Arm? Helmet? Body or does it not matter since all need to be fixed?

[shell hazel]

ele isn't as useful for vesti other stats can be more useful

[shell hazel]

no good line 3 = full roll until one shows up

so this

[viscid urchin]

Arm it is then

[cedar sorrel]

Yuh ur not done until at least 12 lines preferred 9 or so bis

[eager brook]

If you get good rolls or both line 1 and 2 e.g. ATK and charge speed/Elemental DMG for Vesti, I'd consider locking that?

[cedar sorrel]

Then u can fix it to 12/12 bis when u have the resources

[shell hazel]

the chest is OK cp pad for now but you need some atk rolls

[cedar sorrel]

If ur not trying to 12/12 yet u could

[viscid urchin]

Ugh this is frustrating. 30 rolls until even one line 3 appeared

[cedar sorrel]

Its just a hefty rock investment. It costs a lot of rocks to roll for a 30% chance at a line in the first place (3rd line rolling)

[shell hazel]

nope junk

I don't think any unit likes hit rate

at least not really

[viscid urchin]

Uhhhhhhh?

[shell hazel]

nope

[versed mesa]

It helps hitting core, but that is PvE and even there it is generally absolute garbo

[viscid urchin]

Seriously?

[shell hazel]

seriously

[viscid urchin]

Back to rerolling then

[shell hazel]

you can take it for now if you want but it needs full roll still

[eager brook]

Atk/elemental DMG/charge speed on the 3rd line or reroll

[shell hazel]

it's better than what you had maybe but not like you will run outta rocks before you can fix it

[cedar sorrel]

I went fishing when I got the black line 2 and ended up getting ight blue line 1. I prob wont roll this black line away so lots of fun to be had to go 3rd line fishing. I wouldnt do this unless its literally bis black (maybe blue) line

[viscid urchin]

Ugh it’s like it is taunting me

[shell hazel]

good I'd say

[viscid urchin]

So keep for now?

[shell hazel]

need to reset attributes a bit

yeah

[cedar sorrel]

Yea u can keep for now but Id full reroll this eventually honestly

[shell hazel]

I dunno if I would

3 useful stats + atk is one of em

[cedar sorrel]

It depends on the rest of the gear I guess

[shell hazel]

yes

[viscid urchin]

Oh COME ON!

[cedar sorrel]

If I lose out on 2 cs or 2mammo cuz of crits ud need to reroll

[cedar sorrel]

Hmmm

Ur getting like barely not lucky enough

[shell hazel]

as a starting point seems OK?

[viscid urchin]

I KNOW! This is precisely why I said my luck with OL lines was stinkier than Pepe Le pew

[cedar sorrel]

Thats not horrible honestly tho

When u wanna full send it u can but this is fine

[shell hazel]

you could try this for now

[viscid urchin]

OK whew.

[cedar sorrel]

In my exp atk mammo cs most important for pvp / pve

Cs especially it goes hard on tvesti and u have a good amount

[viscid urchin]

@shell hazel I will work on Moran next.

Tell me though, is PrivT more for PvE or is she PvP used as well?

[cedar sorrel]

That lets u hit RL breakpoints not normally possible so its a huge gain from just 2 lines

[shell hazel]

she can work in pvp too but it need a lot of batteries

[viscid urchin]

OK scrap that for now. I will build her at my leisure.

Right now I NEED an upgraded PvP team

[shell hazel]

privT for example here with nayuta team

because of anis and helmT it works

and centi burst gen

[versed mesa]

Bricked centi Unless Phase1

[viscid urchin]

Huh….and uhhhhh would she be the one B3 that is flexible from the previous version you listed?

[shell hazel]

anything works there for last slot - you can make main b3 like I did with her here

or you can add say a siren to add stun

[viscid urchin]

Does phase 1 mean just unlocking her treasure or leveling it once? I was never too clear on that

[cedar sorrel]

That guys pvp guru I dont think he bricked his centi lol

[cedar sorrel]

Yea just initial. Not further levelling

[shell hazel]

let me fix the image lmao

[cedar sorrel]

Thats when she unlocks this shield she gives to everyone which basically lets ur enemy burst faster

So phase 2 and 3 is cooked

[shell hazel]

image is not treasure centi so won't confuse anyone (hopefully)

vigor cube on lib please

[versed mesa]

I didn't get her treasure at all, but Phase 1 just unlocking, if you upgrade to phase 2 though, that bricks her. It makes her shield ability apply at the start of the match, and the shield counts as extra targets for enemy RL units for example, so they get more burst gen per shot.

[viscid urchin]

May I ask why Cindy was removed? I am not questioning your judgement here. It’s just that her CP is among the highest in my roster and I worry about deficits. Or does PvP not care about deficit so much?

[shell hazel]

speed

biscuit is a bit slower, if you put cindy in your speed slows down

you're 2.5RL instead which could still work but it's a diff speed

[cedar sorrel]

Biscuit is like avg regular RL speed so like 11.9% RL iirc

[viscid urchin]

OK thanks. Sorry like I said, I am an idiot with little to no luck so I try to cover that deficiency with hoarding resources.

I only knew that maxing Centi treasure was a bad idea precisely for the same reason PoliT was a bad idea (the shield gives extra burst gen to opponents).

[shell hazel]

yeah it's around 12% 2RL biscuit

[viscid urchin]

Understood. I will go with the previous version.

[shell hazel]

you're welcome to try this one too tbh it may still work

[versed mesa]

Yeah, if you just unlock the treasure, like if you want the lobby screen, that is generally fine, as long as you never upgrade it beyond that.

[shell hazel]

biscuit adds the immunity to jackal and blanc

[versed mesa]

The unfortunate thing though is that any unit with a treasure ready to unlock, or upgrade, will remain with the red dot I've learned to cope but I hate seeing it taunting me on the menu.

[cedar sorrel]

Ive never seen jackal blanc biscuit indom. Feels like u need vigor on biscuit cuz shes supporter so prob lower health

It seems like a cool idea tho just lots of "high value" units in 1 team I guess

[shell hazel]

biscuit vigor is fine but who is hitting biscuit at p4?

[viscid urchin]

OK thanks for explaining.

And I know I sound like a broken record but I…really do not understand PvP. I do it for the gems because I need to save those at every opportunity.

It’s just that today was a really bad day and I want vengeance. If that demands I use my hoard, fine.

Still thank you @shell hazel and everyone else here. I was legit pulling out my own hair because I was failing and failing

[cedar sorrel]

My biscuit is casually like 20-30k. Below atkers so Ive had misindoms happen but u right

[shell hazel]

not typically at p4

nothing really hits that before blanc b2

[cedar sorrel]

That was jackal less tho I did aniss p1

So then the atkers werent dropping evenly

[versed mesa]

I did pvp through almost pure trial and error for over 2 years and somehow managed to get top 3. Until the 3rd anniversary shuffle put 3 opponents that were constantly better at making defense teams and two even gemmed, was when I first came here to ask for help.

[shell hazel]

for pvp I recommend actually watching the matches sometimes to see what happens

even better if you can rec and replay (they're fairly short anyway)

[viscid urchin]

@shell hazel I will work on Moran but do you have any suggestion on Cubes regarding some of these?
The only ones I maxed out are Res and Bast. Should I invest more in Quantum? it is like...lv.6?

[shell hazel]

quantum is mainly for burst gen batteries

[viscid urchin]

So...RLs?

[shell hazel]

so you put quantum on stuff like jackal and trina (I show those here in fact)

vigor on Liberalio so she gets more hp than SWHA

[viscid urchin]

Right! I get that. But what about the others? Any suggestions there?

[shell hazel]

highest pve cubes usually fine for cp reasons

if your tempura cube is good, tempura on p1 like moran can be fine

[viscid urchin]

OH! Right Libby! How much do I need to fix her? I think I left her with 7/7/7 and unfinished OLs

[cedar sorrel]

1 cube that is very useful in pvp is tempering so if u really wanna hard invest u can do that

[viscid urchin]

Tempura? Whut? Ohhhh TEMPERING

[cedar sorrel]

Endurance up cube

Uh no, tempering is damage taken down vube

[viscid urchin]

Oh...sorry, brain being stupid, again.

[cedar sorrel]

So that one lol

[shell hazel]

she is mainly there to burst gen and add some damage

yours needs SR-15 doll up from SR-5

[viscid urchin]

Simple enough. I got a couple thousand upgrade mats for it

[cedar sorrel]

Lib has similar gen to clipSGs which is above average so shes a good slot in teams

[shell hazel]

you can finish her skills maybe but she not bursting anyway

[tropic summit]

• biscuitless noah loses to indom
• you cannot stun p1 b1

you will although stun at least once during FB enemy indom unit, but depending on invest it's a risky team, may or may not work

[viscid urchin]

I was going to 10/10/10 her anyway...because I didn't expect to love her once she became more active in story. But at the time I was running low on wind mats

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/goatishere-gif-26768694

[cedar sorrel]

Her s2 is completely useless in pvp so if u do max her skills u can skip that unless u want CP (shes one of best wind dps so maxing her skills isnt bad regardless tho)

[viscid urchin]

OK so....Moran:
-Unlock treasure.
-What was it, 7/7/7 her skills?
-OL lines (aim for ATK/Ele/DEF+Ammo)?

[shell hazel]

7/10/10

yes but ammo not needed she get infinite ammo on b1

[viscid urchin]

Understood.

Damn I'm gonna be burning through Electric mats today

[versed mesa]

I'm the worst person to ask for skill up tips btw. My strat is, is she useful? Yes? 10/10/10 everytime

[shell hazel]

then she finnished

[cedar sorrel]

My tvesti at 71010

[viscid urchin]

TBF you would know more than me. Unless I am actively going to use someone, I don't even bother leveling their skills or anything

[shell hazel]

moranT is a great b1 for UR and SR too tbh no waste here

[viscid urchin]

Again, hoarder mentality.

[tropic summit]

no need to apologize or be formal about it, i see hippo (TAV) already gave you a good run through, you can post your blabla link and i can take a look and give you some teams after you've upgraded the units he suggested

[shell hazel]

and pvp

[shell hazel]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad?uid=MjkwODAtMTIxMDYzMDg5NTk3MjAxOTQzNzU=

[viscid urchin]

HE'S HERE! OMG

[quaint granite]

[cedar sorrel]

MoranT is a gamechanging unit investing in her is always good

[shell hazel]

I see you Shihai

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-sus-face-james-doakes-suspicious-james-doakes-reaction-erik-king-gif-14404252364057104628

[cedar sorrel]

MoranT (+ aniss) invalidates a lot of bosses too at high defi

[versed mesa]

Generally I will check what guides will say for priority on what skills to invest in first, but the moment there is a lull in new units to build, I will dump any skill books I have to units that aren't full 10 yet

[viscid urchin]

Maybe. But my parents taught me to be respectful to those whom you ask help from. And you helped me before so I felt it was the least I could do

[cedar sorrel]

Rich

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/the-daily-show-jon-stewart-i-wish-wish-wishing-gif-4204955

[cedar sorrel]

At some point I guess uve just invested everyone that u need to invest so resources just accumulate. Not me tho

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/thanks-bow-thank-you-sign-of-respect-gif-4807966236937524301

[cedar sorrel]

Me at 0 rocks literallyevery day

[versed mesa]

Day 1, never skip a day privileges, stuff just piles up

[cedar sorrel]

I started middle of resident evil event so theres just too much to do

[quaint granite]

Its been like 6 months or something? Noahless

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-waiting-forever-waiting-for-you-it's-been-84-years-meme-gif-3221316472416716605

[viscid urchin]

Alright, Imma need to be AFK for a bit. It's doggy's meal time and it is my shift to feed him XD

[cedar sorrel]

Yes Ive been noahless since I started actually crazy concept

[tropic summit]

you've good parents

[quaint granite]

Should change your name to "Noah come home" then she'll be at your door step sooner

[shell hazel]

you were a good sport I was messing about a bit 😄

[cedar sorrel]

I actually didnt like noah until MW and goddess fall so she prob took that personally

[shell hazel]

but I was also wanting to help so I was doing that too lol

[quaint granite]

@tropic summit is good onion, I like onions

[versed mesa]

I'm the opposite, good parents, still grew up to become a failure

[tropic summit]

don't rail the onion

[shell hazel]

Rail is def the most patient one of us all haha

[shell hazel]

sasuga!

[viscid urchin]

They are indeed.

I disagree with them a LOT, but I can never truly call them bad parents. I just wish I wasn’t such a failure of a son

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

we all failures

https://tenor.com/view/apes-together-always-weak-dawn-gif-18022934

[quaint granite]

failing is what keeps us going

[tropic summit]

reject monkey, return to g0oning

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit he escaped the containment filter again lets chase him back to cultcord

[tropic summit]

he needed to touch grass

[shell hazel]

the grass was north he went south!

[quaint granite]

says you guys!

[tropic summit]

me and TAV are perfectly normal human beings

[shell hazel]

my garden has plenty of fake grass thankyou!

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/angelina-gilberta-arknights-endfield-gif-11189945124697171991

[quaint granite]

fake grass

[shell hazel]

[upper grove]

that's a sus thing to say

[quaint granite]

perfect humans with fake grass

[shell hazel]

oi where you rank in UR

[tropic summit]

[versed mesa]

I can see grass just fine through my window, I know what it feels like, I don't need to touch it again

[shell hazel]

|| ever || again

[upper grove]

64th again, 277b missing for top 50

[shell hazel]

what was the total?

[quaint granite]

We are getting closer to your doorstep soon

[shell hazel]

we need to beat p2

[upper grove]

1852b total, my own total was 76.2b this time

[shell hazel]

it would be easier to do if we had @upper grove in the union

I sense a plan

[quaint granite]

kidnapping operation

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/catnapping-cat-kidnap-cat-steal-that-was-useful-cat-bag-gif-15383237504303739740

[quaint granite]

Our GRAND WITCH DOCTOR @hollow lagoon 99.9b dmg!

[shell hazel]

no way you wrong lmao

[quaint granite]

[shell hazel]

it was 99.999999B

[upper grove]

nice

[quaint granite]

faaaaaah your right!

[versed mesa]

My total was 87.1B

If blabla is to be trusted

[quaint granite]

should be accurate

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/shaking-my-head-gif-1659429092331586603

[upper grove]

I see no reason why it should not be accurate

[cedar sorrel]

These people talking ab 87b

[shell hazel]

we need 400B

[versed mesa]

87B at my synchro is ass though

[upper grove]

steady improvement nonetheless

[shell hazel]

yeah it is 🙂

p2 end wall is real now though

[upper grove]

recruiting just sucks

[shell hazel]

it does

[cedar sorrel]

Aye man big number to me I can do like 3-1b per team max

[shell hazel]

we recruiting for Warudo, Kara, and NixFinn

[upper grove]

3.5 years in, it gets harder each day, especially when ppl just yolo hit without prior mocks

[tropic summit]

that Kara keeps escaping but one day...

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/الرزق-الحلال-fish-net-amazing-cool-throw-gif-17925483

[quaint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-very-accurate-chris-evans-esquire-very-precise-on-point-gif-17762378

[umbral crown]

[quaint granite]

Gotta Rail

[viscid urchin]

Alright, back.

Moran it is then.

Quick question: I can still view the story for her IF I skip all the dialogue first?

[quaint granite]

Yep can comeback to it

[shell hazel]

retro union right? used to be much higher?

[viscid urchin]

Very well then, time to start improving her then

[umbral crown]

Or one night

[upper grove]

yeah that one was retros union

(account is still named retro btw)

[shell hazel]

they were much closer to top 10 right?

[tropic summit]

@viscid urchin

took a look at your https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTIxMDYzMDg5NTk3MjAxOTQzNzU=

SP arena

• nayuta anisTT helmT noir naga
• noise siren swha noah biscuit
• jackal vestiTU cindy blanc laplaceT

Cubes

nayuta any
anisTT quantum
helmT tempering
noir any
naga any

noise vigor
siren tempering/any
swha tempering
noah tempering/vigor
biscuit vigor

jackal any
vestiTU tempering
cindy any
blanc vigor
laplaceT (vigor if lower HP than vestiTU, else quantum)

[upper grove]

nah in the 40s range sounds about right imo

[shell hazel]

ah ok 😉

[shell hazel]

not worried about noise and siren both getting yeeted early?

[tropic summit]

could be, once he gets moran we benching them anyhow

[shell hazel]

he was working on it I think now

[tropic summit]

he can rotate noah to p2 and put siren in p4 but it mitigates indoms less

fortunately ppl are way less common knowing how to abuse SGs/early pressure properly anyway

ironically a lot of def teams would get obliterated by absolute aswell

i generally never account for that else you may aswell just not build def at all then

[upper grove]

just whale enough

[tropic summit]

🐳

is da way to perfect def

can't lose def if your opponent can't even play 🧠

[shell hazel]

200 iq move tbh

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-problems-require-modern-solution-talking-pointing-gif-16641948

[upper grove]

as SU envisioned

[undone blaze]

Either he hit me with the team he used to beat the other dude or he changed something because I for sure haven't changed anything lol

[viscid urchin]

Speaking of, just got her treasure, 7/10/10 and OL lines. Please judge

[tropic summit]

initial damage tests... buffing is ok-ish, but not optimal compared to available options
her burst gen is clearly not clipRL, so that doesn't help

would need to see when comboed with prika, but if prika is bad burst gen, it further limits the options

being a B2 means if you run her, you don't have anti nuke or proper survival utility (you can moran/noise, but it will be tough if enemy can deny the team to begin with with bay-biscuit or noah alone)

leaning toward B more than A, let's wait prika though

[viscid urchin]

So if I built Moran, how does this look instead?

[tropic summit]

if CP doesn't get nuked change the noise team to

moran noah biscuit swha lib

[unique wagon]

Review team will scold me if I wait till Prika

[viscid urchin]

Understood.

[unique wagon]

I'll just put B for now then

[tropic summit]

can put her temporary A then

[unique wagon]

Why is the A?

[tropic summit]

up to you, when unclear it's best to put her slightly higher than she should be, so you've an excuse for dropping her

[unique wagon]

How would Prica get her to A?

[tropic summit]

if she brings good synergy and burst gen it may become good for glass cannon options

or if she happens to give sustain/lifesteal/DR

[unique wagon]

Mint starts in Dancing state, the buff is only 30% atk dmg, 40% ammo, and crit dmg + heals every full charge

[tropic summit]

right, doesn't seem to rescue her then

B it is...

[unique wagon]

The problem I have with B is

[shell hazel]

doesn't start with M :p

[unique wagon]

This.

[woeful isle]

Hello, could I get some help making 3 sp teams, I will prob invest in Moran next, here is all the Nikkes I got. Thanks!

[tropic summit]

hmm buffing wise she's kinda there with grave perhaps

viper: burst gen and can be SG team unit
euhnwa: very good buffing for absolute, core part
makima: can stall, more useful also for deficit scenarios
xanne: unique revive + buff
poli: unique pseudo stalling, ok-ish buff

i don't think mint brings enough to be on the level above

once you compare her with other A ranks, i don't think she brings anything to fit there

again, unless prika synergy somehow makes her skyrocket in buffing or adds something else

[unique wagon]

True

B it is

[unique wagon]

I have problems with Mari though

Would it be wise to promote some B up or demote Mari down?

[placid bloom]

Grave is on par with Snow Crane?

[viscid urchin]

@tropic summit Quick question: still Vigor or Tamperin cube for MoranT?

[placid bloom]

tempering beats vigor every time

unless you need some HP to tweak Jackal link

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• midhara nayuta anisTT helmT emilia
• noise noah biscuit swha siren
• jackal lib cindy blanc laplaceT

Notes

• build/wislisht moranT, emilia, vestiTU, biscuit, jackal, noah, blanc

Once the above are better built/ready, get your teams upgraded

[unique wagon]

Temper for anyone that scales on damage reduc

[viscid urchin]

Hmmm, Imma just level both of them as much as I can then

[tropic summit]

mari is in an unique spot where her nuke actually contributes to some pressure, while still being ok B2, also doesn't feed

[viscid urchin]

It's not like I spent much of the union coins since Imaxed Res and Bast