pvp-arena

[fast nest]

and yes. SP shuffle too. As times goes on, ppl quit the game. then many whales at old server gathered into one group.
I assume many oldie players here already suffered from this.

[delicate cove]

i have ^^

back when i knew 0 about the game and only collected waifus and then loogged off for a half a year to a year

came back n was informed about being pvp bricked so i rerolled

[fast nest]

Hmm that is not what I said. first of all, gap by time is hard to be filled in pvp. This is the thing you faced.
What I said, as time goes on, ppl at the earlier sp arena server quit the game.
Through shuffle, non-quitters are groupped in the one sp arena server. Here, whales are usually non-quitters.
It means more whales will join in your sp arena server and you will lose chance to rank 1-4 even though you only have invested on pvp units.

[ashen maple]

Im f2p atm, but within the top5.

Trying to stay afloat is getting tough. The picture is what i have to work with.

I also do have jackel, biscuit, noise, noah, and rumani, but both are weak af.

Not sure which pvp support to build in priority order.

[sudden drift]

Not sure where to post this but new CD Key

[teal ledge]

Brethren, is Rosanna safe in p1 or too risky?

[sudden drift]

Nikke1250daysold

[ashen maple]

Huh… it works

[teal ledge]

More specifically does she get hit by RL aoe and kill her concealment?

[covert lintel]

The shuffle is not like that from what i experienced

[minor egret]

What sync level are you? Your pow and lines seems really low to me. Sometimes it's better to not get too attached to challenger early on and focus on campaign/interception, you'll come back and they won't be able to touch you (unless whaling but you can't fight that as f2p)

[mystic rain]

she does

[umbral crown]

next CA comes with shuffle

[teal ledge]

Shit. Thanks Hermann

[teal ledge]

Actually, follow up is p3 good enough or do I need to put her further back for vesti?

[tidal lichen]

this just blessed me with another moran dupe 🙏

almost core max

[mystic rain]

just to be safe p4 or p5

iirc p5 is safe cuz sr and sg def will skip rosa

@swift mango does sg and sr skip rosa p5?

[ashen maple]

Im level 220 sync atm.

Mid Ch32, i get about 62 dust per hour.

My libby and sbs are semi built. Currently working on finishing out Swha.

Im push high deficit 40% in campaign atm.

[minor egret]

That's like super early on

[teal ledge]

Right.. that’s kinda what I was gathering from the kits. You know what the full reach of vesti is on that aoe by chance?

[worn ridge]

Guys how to beat a team like this
Helm/biscuit/snow white /t.t. anis / nayuta

I tried anis t.t./blanc/lib/biscuit/helm .

He has 41 levels of Advantage and its anis killed my lib and only nayuta and enemy anis remain against helm

[minor egret]

If you're pushing deficit you're going to need 4x ele (at least 80%) and 4x atk on your dps

[mystic rain]

default vesti hits p1-p3

normal rls only hit p1-p2

if vesti burst she hits all 5

[teal ledge]

Good knowledge thank you sir

Fml

God is real

I’ll lay down my life in service of my perverted goddess

[tulip quest]

I tot I was reading 154k

I guess only zant has that kinda gems

[teal ledge]

I’m broke now lol

I spent it all on anis sexy ass

[tulip quest]

yea

we all do I think

[teal ledge]

Any new evaluation on neo neon? I only grabbed one copy

[tulip quest]

she's good PVE with lib

[umbral crown]

@hollow lagoon

[teal ledge]

I feel like she’s a sleeper PvP ace or something in the right team

[tulip quest]

I just use her as Semi tank in vestTAC

invul 3 sec upon taking damage

[quick lake]

she’ll likely go into indom team. Allowing Vesti to go to Absolute team

[harsh tendon]

yo is anyone here able to help me make my 3 def teams?

[teal ledge]

Shit that’s a great point

[harsh tendon]

or can someone send me their teams so i can copy

[compact eagle]

without Anis she's basically just a worse Besti. If we only look at self-buffs, she's significantly worse than Besti; and inside of Super Firepower she's roughly equal after factoring in typical DEF values

that does mean that with Anis buff, if she has indom as well she'd be doing double Besti dps for 10 seconds

but I think Anis already kind of solo DPSes in her current team comps?

[teal ledge]

I’ve seen anis working into indom teams

[compact eagle]

I don't think being roughly equal to Besti by herself in burst is the worst though; but it feels like she's leashed to Blanc. I don't know enough about PVP to know if this is pragmatic over the usual culprits for indom

[harsh tendon]

pls someone help me out 🥺

[teal ledge]

Check the pinned posts in this sub. I’m not qualified

Standard SPA Defence Teams

Team Builder Sites:
https://nikke-deck.com/en/deck
https://nikke.top/
https://nikke-synergy.com/ (JP)
More teams found below this message

Updated as of 29/05/26

Example SPA Teams
Moran Bay Biscuit Helm.T SWHA (2RL)
Jackal VestiTU TTAnis Blanc Ada/flex DPS (2RL)
Noise Noah Trina Liberalio Rumani (2RL)

Teams below are broadly ordered from best to worse within each archetype

VestiTU Teams
Jackal VestiTU TTAnis Blanc Ada (2RL)
Jackal VestiTU Rumani Blanc ClipRL (2RL)
Jackal VestiTU Rumani Blanc Ada (2RL)
Noah Centi VestiTU Helm.T RH (2RL)
Jackal VestiTU xMaiden Blanc LaplaceT (2.3RL)

Snow White Heavy Armor (SWHA) Teams
Moran Noah Helm SWHA RH (2RL)
Moran Noah Helm SWHA VestiTU (2RL)
Jackal Rumani SWHA Blanc xMaiden/LaplaceT/ClipSG/flex (2RL)
Noise Noah SWHA Ada xMaiden/LaplaceT/ClipSG/flex (2RL)

TTAnis Teams
Nero TTAnis Moran HelmT flex (2RL)
Nero TTAnis Moran HelmT Rapunzel/Quiry/Bay/Mana (2RL)
TTAnis Blanc Biscuit Helm.T SWHA (2RL)
Nayuta TTAnis Biscuit Priv.T Helm.T (2.5RL)

Bay-Biscuit Teams
Moran Bay Biscuit Helm.T SWHA (2RL)
Moran Bay Biscuit SWHA Helm.T (2RL)
Noise Bay Biscuit Helm.T SWHA (2RL)
Noise Bay Biscuit SWHA Helm.T (2RL)

Moran-Noah Teams
Moran Noah Helm.T SWHA VestiTU (2RL)
Moran Noah Helm.T SWHA ClipSG/SG (2RL)
Moran Noah Helm.T Lib RH (2.2RL)
Moran Noah SWHA Helm.T Ada (2RL)
Moran Noah VestiTU Helm.T Ada (2RL)
Moran Noah Biscuit SWHA Helm.T/VesiTU/Liberalio (2RL)

Liberalio Teams
Noah Centi Liberalio RH Rumani (2RL)
Jackal Rumani Liberalio Blanc LapT/xMaiden (2RL)
Noah Centi Biscuit Liberalio Rumani (2RL)
Any 2RL Liberalio team works (Both Single or Unbuffed Liberalio works)

@quick lake his material

[quick lake]

can send ur roster, in horizontal plz

[harsh tendon]

heres my list of unowned instead, i have laplace, privaty, moran treasure

[teal ledge]

lol tough one good luck @quick lake

[quick lake]

send the units u have, in landscape @harsh tendon

[harsh tendon]

should i sent it seperately

[quick lake]

alright gimme a sec

[covert lintel]

But when the beta end

[umbral crown]

in S30 so the new thing will start

ffrom 0

[quick lake]

Jackal Anis VestiTu Blanc Drake
Moran Bay Biscuit Helm SWHA
Noah Trina Centi Siren Rumani

[harsh tendon]

my bay isnt treasured yet is that an issue

[quick lake]

nope its fine

[harsh tendon]

alright cheers

[quick lake]

4/4/4 4OL if u wanna min invest

[covert lintel]

How many season left

[harsh tendon]

also is that sr or t.t. anis?

[quick lake]

ttAnis

[teal ledge]

Do we know what’s going to change?

[umbral crown]

2

will be enter in S29 next week

[covert lintel]

I now have x3 atk and 1 ed on Nneon
Should i go for 4th atk or 2nd ed @swift mango

[covert lintel]

1 month left

[umbral crown]

indeed

we gonna do the thing nowi, imagine if they make new frames for the real CA

[covert lintel]

I hope there is gonna be a title too

[umbral crown]

trust

https://tenor.com/view/creative-jam-count-every-vote-election-night-its-not-over-keep-counting-gif-18920563

[urban wave]

wait what? what's happening?

[harsh tendon]

oh ye should i focus on getting centi or bay's treasure at all? and if so who do i prioritise first

[quick lake]

never upgrade centi’s treasure. Bricks her. Bay treasure is a nice to have. Pvp units generally just need 4/4/4 4OL is fine

[teal ledge]

Idk! Lol CA beta ending apparently

[quick lake]

whut

what fake news is this

[teal ledge]

Disregard me. Idk

[quick lake]

pvp deadge

[karmic monolith]

I don't know how to consistently give Neo Neon blanc indom

[teal ledge]

Biscuit and Cinderella?

Something’s gotta be there

What about neon blanc Cinderella xmaiden biscuit?

[quick lake]

have to manage HP ig. I also had some trouble, dk why

[karmic monolith]

I tried a high HP team with defenders and supporters

[compact eagle]

Is it because of her Healthy Body skill with the 3 seconds of invulnerability?

[charred quail]

1000 rocks for top 10 spa

[raven plover]

you mlb neoneonon?

[quick lake]

idk tbh. But i dont think so

[compact eagle]

I thought it might desync her HP from the rest of jackal links so someone else ends up with indom but I haven't seen the team in action yet

[charred quail]

Hoboman, I core 7 neon. Thoughts?

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/homeless-squidward-spare-change-gif-25810212

[charred quail]

😂

[plucky glen]

can you guys help me with sp arena comp pls

[covert lintel]

Still trying
*1 atm

[raven plover]

damn so reech thanos and neoneoneon mlb

[covert lintel]

Nope, i'm electric main so i need her

[vapid lake]

Sponsor me

[covert lintel]

Mlb means *3 right?
Core 7 is impossible after all

[raven plover]

I hope we meet on qualifier next CA, I have meme team that 100% cause me losing on qualifier. gonna do it for the love of the game

[covert lintel]

Neoneon debut?

[raven plover]

yea but shes in the team for literally nothing. not like I have her built

[covert lintel]

I know you'll make her tank sg back shoot

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/gülmek-komik-gif-12950352696137374051

[swift mango]

She has tons of self AtK buff, ele for Sr is better

[covert lintel]

Ok i'll try to open 2nd ed instead

[covert lintel]

Btw you said you can't go ca

[raven plover]

I open boxes and I can def

Im 721 atm

[swift mango]

[raven plover]

enough to wall people

[covert lintel]

same as me

[raven plover]

wdym same as you youre 732 or something

[covert lintel]

Basically same
I still have 721 cp boost not 741

[raven plover]

my cs on thanos is so bad

[covert lintel]

Low cs but always win ca

[raven plover]

win where Im washed

[covert lintel]

Always lose to koy
Make a team to defeat him so your curse will be lifted

[raven plover]

remember the bracket rule, if fahren lost, koy winning, vice versa

[swift mango]

Nah there are occasionally others who won too

[raven plover]

its beta 2.0 season 20 and @covert lintel still not winning

[swift mango]

Just not hobo anymore

[covert lintel]

Koy win until the final, then nozomu nailed it

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-trying-not-to-laugh-laughing-facepalm-lmao-gif-15446474421410342464

[wild drum]

is anis TT the star one

[umbral crown]

did not know koy was that strong

some seasons ago we were sharing cooks and stuff

[swift mango]

Whale is always strong with luck to boot

[umbral crown]

i see, makes sense

[wild drum]

yo who's the strongest and the uh weakest teams

[drifting owl]

should i pair ianis with another b1?

[willow thicket]

Is there an incentive to spend gems after using the 2 free attacks in SPA?

Asking because there is a player in my server that spends a couple of hundred gems everyday to beat me for the diamond 2 rank.

Am I missing something?

I'm lvl 560, other player is 576.

I would switch my teams out every time I lose to throw that player off and make them spend more gems lol.

They would sometimes copy my def team as theirs but I know how to beat my teams (thanks to everyone in this discord).

I could see in the history that they lose maybe 2 or 3 times before beating me.

I just stop after the 2 free attacks. I am F2P (sort of, only bought Dorothy gacha skin a while back) and saving my gems for anniv.

[wild drum]

no spending gem

if u want to realy

u uh spend the attack likle 0.0000000000001 seconds before the season ends

[covert lintel]

Send hi from me

[slender mesa]

Too much deficit or is something else the problem

[minor egret]

Most likely his pride, some are just too butthurt to admit defeat for the day. Whole point of arena is to win gems

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/luna-terra-ust-message-money-gif-23530621

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-yowamushi-pedal--k01KQRW0KKR13PH08VH94B2DY09

[tropic summit]

yes the new anis

[wild drum]

Ty raily

[tropic summit]

depends on who you facing

[wild drum]

[tropic summit]

re-enter anisTT is situationally weaker

[wild drum]

I put the most cp one vs the one whos mid team comp

[tropic summit]

no, generally speaking there's no reason to gem in arena, do your two attempts, if you really need to min/max usage keep 1 attempt for pre reset

the only "reasonable" time to gem is if you're near the end of the season and those few points you could get would put you in the higher reward milestone, even then tho it's a variable based on how sweaty your opponents are. (e.g. use 100 gems for 1 extra attempt but secure 300 gems more)

[thorny sequoia]

@tropic summit PVP GOD BRO

CAN YOU PLEASE HELP ME WITH TEAMS TO BEAT THIS GUY?

THANK YOU PVP GOD BRO 🙏🙏🙏

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta naga anisTT helmT drakeT
• moran swha rrh noah rh
• jackal cindy vestiTU anchorIM liberalio

[tropic summit]

run these you're on the left, opponent is on the right

• swha blanc rh centi jackal
• noah anisTT biscuit lib helmT

swha tempering, rh vigor
noah and anisTT tempering

[thorny sequoia]

Thank you very much PVP GOD BRO!!
🙏🙏🙏❤️🪽🪽🪽 🫡 🫡 🫡

All the new Nikke lately have been messing up standard PVP sets so I don't know who's top top top anymore

[slender mesa]

@tropic summit the other guy powered up somehow and I am trying to figure out how to catch up now

I am always fighting these two because they are the only non-whales other than me who show up high in the ranks in rookie

cause my bracket has like 3 people with more than 1756k

[tropic summit]

try running this

blanc anisTT cindy biscuit swha

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

it's 8AM and you've been maldin'?

[shell hazel]

it was literally my 3rd try of the day 😄

[hollow lagoon]

3am and I woke up

[tropic summit]

clearing it at 570 and without helmt, madness

[hollow lagoon]

To rail’s ping

[tropic summit]

dont blame me, turn off discord to sleep

[hollow lagoon]

No helm? How u even live Behe?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-that's-the-neat-part-you-don't-gif-14180388429135427516

[hollow lagoon]

Oh shit pause tech

[shell hazel]

without helmT you gotta pause scum the QTE

and even then reliability is low

[hollow lagoon]

Big haxor

Dis guy consistently do things 20 syncs before me Kekw

[shell hazel]

guy in my SPA did it 30 sync before I did

[tropic summit]

30 syncs earlier than me even

[shell hazel]

almost completed nikke

[slender mesa]

so far the first one was a win with Cindy last standing
here is the playback https://youtube.com/shorts/m3o4sVceCV0?feature=share

[quick lake]

bench cindy

[tropic summit]

awfully close but it works i guess

[slender mesa]

which of them was the intended indom target

[tropic summit]

intended is a big word against that matchup

let's just go with:

https://klipy.com/gifs/todd-howard-it-just-works-1--k01KQRXN2VY43RW7CZ980D5428Y

[slender mesa]

I really need to somehow start learning how all these mechanics work with each other

I feel like a grandpa trying to ask his grandchildren how to turn on the TV

All things considered, what is the most solid defense team one can make for rookie with the current meta?

[tropic summit]

the anisTT one

[slender mesa]

you did blurt something about using anisTT and blanc yesterday

[tropic summit]

• anisTT blanc helmt biscuit swha
• anisTT noah biscuit privT helmT
• anisTT blanc cindy biscuit swha

any of these ^

[slender mesa]

thanks, I hope that this will help reduce the drops
I am still not sure if rookie arena is worth all that but I am still doing it

[tropic summit]

frankly you don't need to worry about rookie, just hang rank 1-8, rewards are pretty much the same

to make it even easier to retain the ranks do your attempts near next day reset

[slender mesa]

I dropped bellow 8 with all these new anisTT teams

yeah I will keep that in mind

[tropic summit]

even below 8 it's still pretty much the same

your concern is just sp arena

[slender mesa]

maybe I just get pissed each time I hear the moans Munstang does when I lose

[strong hull]

ill need you to update my shit rail chan

[slender mesa]

Rail, I hope that Shift up gives you some kudos for all this

[tropic summit]

nah there's no such thing and i don't want any, doing it for fun and when i got time anyway

[glad yarrow]

dont put Noah in p2, her agroo will make the enemy rocket attacks explosion hit p1, p2 and p3 so filling the enemy burst faster.

[tropic summit]

since my bracket is pretty much stale it's a way to not get rusty, so it's indirectly helping me

[tropic summit]

it's natural 2RL with anisTT, there's nothing faster even if he proccs 2 x2 clipRL on p3 you're already both bursting

the rule of not noah in p2-p3-p4 is for teams that are 2.5RL or slower

[swift mango]

This guy doesn't use doro. But his SW probably 4 AtK 4 Ele. I guess I could clear it at 621 easily

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/paripi-koumei-eiko-tsukimi-2--k01KQRYD2CFEN9DT5WMYJYQFDZB

[swift mango]

My mast is not sr15 yet.

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/doja-cat-8--k01KQRY7V9GGYH9VKRG8HX4X9BV

[slender mesa]

What is the best reading material for someone to really understand how PvP fights work here

[unique wagon]

PvP is a lost cause

Im using my doll mats on PvE sry guys

[swift mango]

I can't really destroy the circle in time. Getting pass the tentacles is easy with Moran+Maid anchor or timing SW shot but the circle just kill everyone

[unique wagon]

I need BAde Neon SAnis Maiden Ein and someone else SR 15ed I mean Arca and Isa

Those are 7

I have many gold mats

Surely I can SR 15 all of them

[strong hull]

i thought you dont have her

[spiral onyx]

I don't think Noise is enough anymore as a defensive option

Liberalio's unbuffed damage is too high

And sustained damage units like VestiT, SWHA, and Anis just overwhelm

Invuln/indom is still king

Jackal link isn't enough either now from a defensive perspective

[cedar sorrel]

So then if u wanna run 3 def options for spa what should u do without noah?

[quick lake]

Anis Nero Moran
and Bay fr

[cedar sorrel]

My bay wont be treaaueed anytime soon and my nero isnt built either 🥲

[quick lake]

Bay doesnt need treasure. Nero… expensive as usual

[cedar sorrel]

Last time I asked its sr15 7107

[quick lake]

10/10/1 is fine I think

but SR15 is good

[halcyon zodiac]

i need my new teams for PVP
could anyone help me cook the teams

[cedar sorrel]

Is nero good for atk too

[quick lake]

But fr, I think Noah is the weakest team in SPA right now

funnily enough

[cedar sorrel]

Whats solid archetypes then for spa def? Ive kinda just been doing
Vesti indom
Nayu rh 2rl
Moran bay biscuit 2-2.5rl

[quick lake]

Jackal VestiTU Anis Blanc Ada
Moran Noah HelmT SWHA Siren
Scar Trina RH Centi Rumani

Get Bay to 4OL 4/4/4 if u can

[quick lake]

yeah this work

Nayuta RH kinda RNG and Nayuta dependent, so i dont really like

[cedar sorrel]

Yeah but its been broken a couple times I kinda just hang low ch now

[quick lake]

yeah. pvp v hard to defend

[cedar sorrel]

Yea I feel its usually also countered by mermaid quite easily (me and no one runs CS teamwide)

[quick lake]

Nero probably best bet in SPA tbh

I’ve been hit 10+ times and havent lost

[cedar sorrel]

Can I budget cut and 771 sr5

[quick lake]

yeah. i think its fine tbh

[deep raptor]

Investment on Nero? I’ve got 7/7/4 for skills and random OL at the moment

[covert lintel]

@tropic summit Stacking def works

[glad meteor]

Normal, anis can’t kill moran

[quick lake]

OLs doesnt matter. Its mostly
skills 1&2 and sr15 doll

[quick lake]

That’s just Moran being Moran

[quick lake]

The best team in SPA rn is
Nero Anis Moran HelmT Bay/Rapun/flex

Even idk how to break it fr

[cedar sorrel]

So if I add nero to built units how could I change these defs up?

[covert lintel]

But it's a bit frustrating that moran can't get 1 dmg

[glad meteor]

Nero will just be blanc bait in sp

[quick lake]

not v consistent and feels like sync diff. My moran at 50% def but still dying

[covert lintel]

20 diff

[quick lake]

ur current team is pretty good.
T3: Noise Bay Biscuit SWHA Rumani

[cedar sorrel]

No nero needed

[quick lake]

yeah, for now no need

[cedar sorrel]

No moran being used either?

[quick lake]

looks pretty good as it is

Can swap Noise for Moran if u want. But not neccesary

[cedar sorrel]

My noise has 0 investment currently

I was unsure if shes worth OLing without noah

[hoary hill]

Rossana is the key

Actually dont know but i could guess that might be working other ways idk blanc with like swha and tuvesti to for overkill idk if that might Work don't think so tho

[covert lintel]

rosanna can't kill it?

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit 43-19 was annoying, luckily we got anis even though my SBS is 🧱

[tropic summit]

@hollow lagoon he's still going

[tropic summit]

remove SWHA for helmT and maybe you don't pop their biscuit on anisTT, would make it even more consistent

[shell hazel]

gotta clear to 43-33 for next cd 🙂

[tropic summit]

a common issue, this dude @shell hazel cleared it even without helmT and 30 synchro earlier

ultra haxXx

[shell hazel]

I'd not be able to on mobile only that would be impossible for me 😛

[clever mauve]

Swap privaty for little mermaid?

[shell hazel]

but I mean for any serious mald pc is better unless you're retro ofc

[tropic summit]

basics:
https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

info x unit: (outdated but has most pvp core):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R6qzhnPx85kEoYidYUs-K0hJy61APMQGj5nRSgdvRUU/edit?gid=0#gid=0

start with those 2 imo

[tropic summit]

that's too glass cannon and p1 is weak to SGs, you need a biscuit in there to run anisTT in p1

rather move neonOS in p1

[clever mauve]

Uhhh just in this case use the characters u see please, im new so not much to go off

[tropic summit]

neonOS anisTT anchorIM vestiTU siren

[deep raptor]

In a war with three players. I ran the following teams, one guy can’t crack Nero team, the other can’t crack Nayuta/Piv.T. The top guy has just cracked Nero team with Bay as the flex, will try Rapunzel. Just wondering what investment the Absolute team needs to be functional.

[tropic summit]

run this, gives you p1 unkillable at least up to bursting

neonOS anisTT anchorIM vestiTU siren

[tropic summit]

don't run absolute on def, it's easy to bypass

[ruby iris]

Am I losing because my burst starts a frame before theirs?

[oak smelt]

No, this is simply an indom duel. Your indom starts earlier than your opponent hence you lost

[halcyon zodiac]

i still don't build ada, centi, rumani yet

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel @hollow lagoon

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/lor-lord-of-the-rings-sauron-lord-sauron-the-great-eye-gif-17124185

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

Kara you can't escape

Karanapping commences soon

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor the being of pure evil approaches

[shell hazel]

the pure evil is zanta

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/doubt-press-x-3--k01KQS570P3Z221P242DVFMVSA7

[shell hazel]

how else do you explain this?

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

that is clearly pure evil @hollow lagoon

once I get 43-33 I will take a break from nikke and give back into NTE a bit 😛

this thing kind of slaying all atm

[slender mesa]

the doc definitely has the fundamental meta details that I was looking for.
Did the person who did all this work, quit?

[tropic summit]

nah Keripo is alive and kickin', he's working on an overall video but i dunno about the ETA

might take a while

[slender mesa]

cannot rush art and voluntary work

[ruby iris]

Yeah I tried removing all quantum cubes and I still start bursting a frame before them rip

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/suprised-shocked-homelander-the-boys-shine-gif-7021823420033299207

[deep raptor]

Okay, will have to try something non-template over the SWHA and Vesti Indom teams.

[shell hazel]

if you gonna indom duel someone for some reason run a better indom or a slower one

removing quantum cubes alone isn't going to slow you down in a material way

[covert lintel]

I don't understand the logic from this team

[tropic summit]

there's no logic, just weak to 2RL anti nuke

[ruby iris]

Yeah it's just that I use those 3 teams in SA for 2 other players so I was trying to keep them like that to avoid swapping characters everytime I guess I'll have to make another third team if my other 2 start losing

[shell hazel]

yeah you're literally running an exact mirror match as well

[floral cargo]

Are there any improvement i can make for these defense team? I keep getting kick back to dia4 and i cant come up with any better team.

[river dune]

Damn man you bought all those skins

[river dune]

I'm in 40

[tropic summit]

run these

• nayuta anisTT privT laplaceT drakeT
• moran noise helmt swha noah
• jackal vestiTU blanc centi lib (vigor on lib)

confirm your centi is phase 1 and not phase 2 or phase 3, else run trina instead of centi
build up your emilia btw

[shell hazel]

get back to work!

https://tenor.com/view/meme-nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-dorothy-dorowhip-gif-13339968757220517040

[river dune]

How the hell did you kill Ziz?

[shell hazel]

I used warudo tech

what sync are you?

[river dune]

Above 620

24 I think

[shell hazel]

I followed @upper grove vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP1zdd85098

clearable at 561 with a good team/some dupes, 581 prob f2p

[river dune]

Damn nice

[floral cargo]

Tks but can i ask what the purpose of nayuta and lib? I remember their burst gen are not that fast.

[lost ether]

i didnt know anis can heal with helm burst while reloading

[river dune]

[tropic summit]

nayuta is resistant p1 (9s indom) and doubles as nuker + buffer
lib is flex burst gen with higher HP than vestiTU to ensure indom priority

if you had emilia built you could've ran laplaceT instead of lib and emilia instead of laplaceT, until then stick to this

[shell hazel]

her stars keep shooting when she covers

so makes sense she can 🙂

[river dune]

NGL it's a nice touch

[floral cargo]

Ah, tks!

[river dune]

Really wish I could get at least one skin as free

[tropic summit]

you playing the wrong game for that

best you'll get are the actual welfare free skins

[warped spoke]

Bwos complete newbie here. Any 3 teams i can ran while im getting hang of this? Ty :3

[jolly maple]

time to be egirl

[river dune]

I mean in previously half annis and full ones The did give out free skins

[shell hazel]

all good until anis kills herself on reflect mob

[river dune]

[tropic summit]

@river dune feet pics sell well in 2026 i've heard

[river dune]

I'm a man lmao

[glad meteor]

raptures finally learned from scar

[shell hazel]

make some AI feet pics prob sell lol

[glad meteor]

I like to think nikkes are just human versions of raptures. Nikke abilities come from already existing raptures. But i dont read lore

[tropic summit]

synchro 130 and you've nearly all pvp meta units, this account is illegal

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-sus-face-james-doakes-suspicious-james-doakes-reaction-erik-king-gif-14404252364057104628

[tropic summit]

• moran vestiTU blanc swha mmast
• anisTT crown biscuit RRH anisOG
• neonOS nayuta cindy laplace jackal

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/doctorwho-how--k01KQS993JBEQ9FYS0PF88VACQ4

[glad meteor]

[river dune]

Have you guys been able to write anything here?

I've never been able to write anything there like at all ever since at all

[deep raptor]

What makes drake T a good choice in a Nayuta team?

[raven plover]

most people have her kinda built cus her treasure is somehow "free", otherwise sugar better

[lost ether]

sugar and not bunny soda?

[raven plover]

both

[lost ether]

[deep raptor]

I see, so is a clip SG a requirement for the team?

[paper void]

i need help for rookie and sp arena i cant win anything anymore

my last team was moran little mermaid rrh swhv noah
took me to top 1 last season now that anis star released i cant beat anyone

my Sp arena team was
cinderella, Crown, rrh, jackal, centi
noah, lm, biscuit, Helm (treasure), Swha
moran, privaty maid, Fortune mate arcana, drake, maiden

seems like they're not on meta anymore?

[quick lake]

Sugar

[swift mango]

People clear it without helm and lower CP than him. Nothing impossible. You just need enough dps

[swift mango]

I didn't pull for her but she came right after the banner from friend pull.

Still 0lb up to now though

[umbral crown]

🧱

[umbral crown]

Well, pvp is evolving after T.T.Anis

[shell hazel]

why are you without a union?!

[shell hazel]

[covert lintel]

You said that but i never see you use her in ca

[raven plover]

none of my sg is 40 atk 80 ele so its useless, I dont want to invest. expensive

[swift mango]

Drake burst is better than sugar

[raven plover]

yes, but sugar aa gonna take down moran and noise faster. pick your poison

[umbral crown]

Hows your T.T.Anis pulls going

[covert lintel]

Just 80 ele
Why bother getting atk

[raven plover]

more damage

[shell hazel]

I did 700 pulls as wheel so she's core max

[umbral crown]

Im at 360 and she is C4

[covert lintel]

That's just for SR not pvp

[umbral crown]

Hoping to get some more pulls this week

And if lucky C7

[shell hazel]

360 for c4 is very good I think

[umbral crown]

Yeah, think i have been lucky

[raven plover]

you think your SG gonna keep attacking moran and noise

gonna think about neutral one

[umbral crown]

If i can get 2 copies with 110 pulls would be mord than enough to get C7

Have 100 golden tix left

To do the thing

[raven plover]

same 110 lb2 thanos now I need to pray I get the last dupe

[umbral crown]

[covert lintel]

Let other ele sg do the magic

[umbral crown]

I would look like a wheel if i C7 her with her banner

[arctic jewel]

https://vxtwitter.com/i/status/2051056024904499337

Commander’s Meme Database (@DB_Commander)

Chat, look who I found at Starbucks!

vxTwitter / fixvx · May 3, 2026, 9:47 PM

I wonder what the replies are about

[raven plover]

[umbral crown]

Still happy with this result so far

[shell hazel]

you wheel the skin? 😮

[umbral crown]

[covert lintel]

How much gems

[arctic jewel]

or rather, how many pulls

[umbral crown]

Also libe since was at it

[umbral crown]

Well, 360 pulls for now

[arctic jewel]

dang

[shell hazel]

I managed to get SBS to MLB though on the way via pulls + blue tickets 😮

finally lol

[umbral crown]

But my max will be 480 or so

[shell hazel]

I didn't whale pulls I just spent all I had lol

I went down to essentially 0 pulls left

[plucky glen]

luv u bro

[umbral crown]

360 was all my savings +120 on neo neon

[glad meteor]

I may have lb0 anis poop. But I have sr15 arcana

[umbral crown]

I still have enoug mats for another SR15 but no idea which one next

[empty cedar]

Was looking for a New Union

[umbral crown]

@shell hazel get him

[empty cedar]

[swift mango]

360 pulls for core +4

[umbral crown]

Sometimes luck is real

I omced got 1 copy with the free pulls

[glad meteor]

@tropic summit who needs helmt next shot.

[covert lintel]

Does neon hit p3 too? @swift mango

[swift mango]

Before burst doesn't hit p3. After burst hit all.

[tropic summit]

good lord what have you done, what's CS% on anisTT

[glad meteor]

Like 4%

Actually 0

[glad meteor]

Why sad @rich quail

My anis is fine

The pve way

[swift mango]

Basically she's mid. Only useful if she burst or block things with invincibility.

[rich quail]

I have 16% cs

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-at-this-user-ryan-gosling-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-fail-meme-gif-22090542

[rich quail]

What’s wrong with 16%?

[glad meteor]

CS only affects anis when off burst

[tiny scroll]

She only uses CS pre burst, while bursint she has no CS

[cedar sorrel]

@unique wagon this neon should say Anis

[tiny scroll]

Its not bad to have CS on her, its just not as valuable as some other stuff. It does still help her burst faster.

[rich quail]

I’m trying to get more max ammo and ele dmg

But no luck so far

[swift mango]

Like any other burst gen unit, she want CS so p1 B2 in 2rl doesn't stun so 8% CS at least

A single black line CS + Adjustant is the most economical

So it only takes up a single line

If you never used her in any team that need charge speed (like slow Cindy only) then you don't need CS on her.

[river dune]

Life it's literally the same thing with me

[keen vapor]

It says Missilis though

[shell hazel]

@hollow lagoon

[hollow lagoon]

we lost him

he joined goobers, he asked me when i was sleep

[shell hazel]

goobers? who?

[hollow lagoon]

he would replace the you know who easily and taarn dont have to babysit him

sad universe

[cedar sorrel]

True Im just making a joke that Anis is the actual bossing carry

[shell hazel]

too bad 🙁

we need more pvp people for our union

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1245939636702810225/1497996447780704549/mintwink.gif

[hollow lagoon]

maybe just have to butter the@empty cedar up before union raid~

[empty cedar]

When you @ me you kinda summon me you know

[shell hazel]

that means if we @ you enough we summon into the union?!

[empty cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/genie-rub-lamp-aladdin-gif-4756208

[shell hazel]

[empty cedar]

I did say you can invite me to the community right now i was just looking for something different before setting down for the year

[shell hazel]

zant has a couple outside of union discord I think

are you married to the goober thing?

we've been pushing well and last UR hit 97th, which was our best ever 😄

but we needed more good folk to keep the momentum going

goobers I think is already ranked a bit higher than us but we may catch them sooner or later

[swift mango]

[unreal dawn]

Can you let me see your pvp team, i dont have noah so my pvp team is weak than other have noah 🙁

[river dune]

Being outdone by the silly goobers

[unreal dawn]

Can someone help me with this, is there any problem with these pvp teams

[shell hazel]

damn goobers!

[river dune]

Imagine it is counters who are the goobers

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

My spA team is just win by CP nothing special.

Haven't changed for months

[unreal dawn]

Oh no, that not good for me at all 😭

[prisma sail]

Wait what union full of pvp play .. whalers union

[shell hazel]

we have a highish number of people in CA 😛

a lot of members came from this channel, well not all but certainly more than one or two :p

[swift mango]

It's still smol union though.

[unreal dawn]

This is just pure strength 💪, and sadly, i dont have some core pvp characters 😭

[swift mango]

Send your Blabla or roster screenshot power so we could cook for u

[prisma sail]

I wanna ask u some if Emilia banner back is worthy to get her for pvp ?

[swift mango]

Yes

[shell hazel]

we dont force anyone to spend we have people from big spenders like zant all the way down to f2p's

[unreal dawn]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/home?uid=MjkwODAtMTM2MDQ1Njc2MTQ1NTAzNTExMTE%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMTM2MDQ1Njc2MTQ1NTAzNTExMTE%3D

[unreal dawn]

Help me 😭

[prisma sail]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-want-to-go-inside-gif-14070989

[prisma sail]

Small mean top 100 for sure

[prisma sail]

Thx

[shell hazel]

if you're serious about looking and got reasonable sync to back it up! what you at?

[shell hazel]

yeah we just broke top 97th last time

[prisma sail]

Lol very low 410 don't laugh I kind new in game

[shell hazel]

probably too low 🙁

[prisma sail]

ik

[shell hazel]

we do have a couple near you 420+ but it's kind of last of the mohicans lol

[prisma sail]

Dw I can wait till get req to join

[shell hazel]

our avg is only 560

[prisma sail]

Yup I see

My union now in 0.50 %

[shell hazel]

0.50% is still pretty good, close to ranking there

[prisma sail]

Yup much good

[shell hazel]

I feel like it goes from 0.50% to 100 fairly soon

[swift mango]

Their union is new and on the potential list. Active members, have a discord and kicking out weak guys. Could get to top 20 in the future if hold.

[prisma sail]

We need all members hit at time some always much hit

[prisma sail]

Ik always new unions be strong idk why

[shell hazel]

not new just re-imagined 🙂

went from kind of casual to semi-comp basically

dragged everyone into discord, removed people who wouldn't raid (or join discord) etc

[fathom sparrow]

Prydwen tiered Neon as S for pvp then didnt show any example teams lmao

[prisma sail]

And u'll make group unions in future?

[shell hazel]

we have 2 currently just main one and casual one, casual just aiming for 3% and day 1 normal clear though

[forest zodiac]

what do I do with this in RA? blanc+lib? I tried didn't work

[shell hazel]

don't think we wanted to make a large family of unions, at the very max it would be 3 probably but 2 seems OK as well

[prisma sail]

Yup cool . Lol I hope 1 day when I get more strong able to join

[prisma sail]

and I sure after 6 months u'll have like 4 to 5 unions in group

https://tenor.com/view/don’t-smile-don't-laugh-trying-not-to-laugh-funny-giggle-gif-6467512265182122147

[shell hazel]

nah been around a while don't think any of us wanted that

[umbral crown]

Waos

[prisma sail]

Lol leader alway in stress when family unions be big

[shell hazel]

also those unions that are like attack of the clones lol, with almost the same name, nop

we're CULTISTS and LUA atm

[prisma sail]

New star appears

[umbral crown]

[scarlet adder]

thoughts?

[arctic jewel]

Move Moran to p1 and SWHA to p2

[scarlet adder]

why? it could ruin indom

and no feed

[arctic jewel]

It won't, you're against a Vesti

I also don't necessarily think that Moran does a lot in an indom team

[scarlet adder]

she has atk buff

[arctic jewel]

You can use Red Hood if you really want an attack buff

Or others

Like Anis

[scarlet adder]

anis would re enter

[arctic jewel]

Yes if you also use Jackal

[scarlet adder]

rh i am scared she will get hit hard by vesti

[scarlet adder]

but why would i not

jacakaless and biscless indoms are for people more knowledgble and crazy about pvp

[arctic jewel]

Ok, let me ask you this, what does indom do?

[glad meteor]

Rh also forces blanc into p2

[scarlet adder]

i can tell you what it should do and what it does:

• it should make your strongest dps unkillable for 10 seconds
• it makes someone unkillable for 10 seconds

[arctic jewel]

That's true

[glad meteor]

Vesti and lap+ can potentially keel blanc

[scarlet adder]

so moran stays

i saw moran stealing indom from p2 so i will risk with vesti p2

[arctic jewel]

Ok, good, Moran also has damage reduction for all allies, do you think that has good synergy in an indom team?

[scarlet adder]

kinda? last time i used this kind of team instead of having one single dps vs moran, i had my moran + dps vs their moran

[scarlet adder]

@tropic summit ?

[arctic jewel]

An indom team is when you want to solely rely on the Nikke that's getting the indom and give buffs to it since it won't die in 10 seconds. You can either use Moran or not, it's up to you, but if you ask me, I would use Moran in a different team

[scarlet adder]

but i am attacking here

i have shown you second team

there is no spot for moran there

i need more speed

if i would not use her here i would not use her at all

i could use stanis in second one if she would not become renter with siren there

[cunning crown]

This is true. The atmosphere is very inclusive for honourable fp2 btws such as myself

[tropic summit]

the cindy team is very risky

[scarlet adder]

yeahh so far it always worked but yeahh i knwo

[tropic summit]

if you already know it works then good

as for the other team, there's a minor chance you get misindom on moran, but if you manage to indom swha then it should be a win

the things you're forced to do for lacking noah

[arctic jewel]

@tropic summit my words are nothing but crap it seems

[scarlet adder]

[shell hazel]

though we could use more f2ps like Hime

[scarlet adder]

i could also try something like this maybeee

probably better switch lib and helm

[tropic summit]

invulnerable p1 and p2 is fine, then you need a bait attacker to catch enemy helmT nuke

anisTT centi biscuit lib helmT, assuming your helmT is highest atk%

[scarlet adder]

lib would catch it with her buff if i am faster

[tropic summit]

you don't wanna lose lib until she lands her nuke, or you lose all of her damage

at that point just slot cindy instead

[scarlet adder]

but i try to outspeed him

[tropic summit]

you don't outspeed with lib

it takes 1RL to land her nuke

[scarlet adder]

not outspeed that much

[tropic summit]

just run this and it's failproof:

[scarlet adder]

😄

[tropic summit]

as cindy cannot be targeted by enemy helmT

[glacial haven]

Any tips to beat these? Pls?

[scarlet adder]

this should win?

[tropic summit]

against enemy swha

• swha blanc rh centi jackal

agaisnt enemy helmt rosanna

• noise anisTT cindy helmT noah

[tropic summit]

read what i said please, if you're asking me you didn't understand

[glacial haven]

Will try.

[scarlet adder]

by outspeed i meant, i would switch position and burst with helm, and try to snipe their helm with mine or even if i won't i would have healing stanis probably killing them

[glad meteor]

So much burst gen, ban this user for being booli

[tropic summit]

you don't outspeed, you're both 2RL

[scarlet adder]

like slightly out speed, mine b3 before his kinda outspeed

[tropic summit]

who taught you to take risks over stable solutions?

lose that line of thought immediately

[scarlet adder]

lacking noah xD

[tropic summit]

you want to solve a team, you take a surefire solution over gambling

anisTT centi biscuit cindy helmt ensures enemy helmt kills helmt, you lose biscuit and get anisTT and centi invulnerable, cindy facetanks nayuta

[glacial haven]

Fingers crossed

[tropic summit]

you'll burst and wipe whole team, then you facetank 2 palms

what happens if you run lib/helmT main B3?

1st) you better hope enemy has no CS%
2nd) if you burst with lib and helmt nukes lib, you lose all of your damage
3rd) if you burst with helm, you don't know if you hit first or they do, because again CS%

[glacial haven]

Truly, a PVP God.... @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

so always discard solutions that have RNG or unsure factors in them

pick stable solutions, especially when you can at least

[tropic summit]

nice, now hit ch4-ch5-ch6

[scarlet adder]

for me instability lies in cindy taking those palms xD

[tropic summit]

do what you want moro, it's not my teams, i gave you my input

you can gamble it for all it matters, it may work, it may not

[scarlet adder]

i trust you hunderd times more than myself in pvp xD

[tropic summit]

i'd prefer the latter than gambling with helmt, because i've no clue on your opponent CS%

but that's just my opinion and my preference

[scarlet adder]

still thanks to you i am in 7th, with 99% for top 10 so i am happy 😄 i will just try to push 6th guy to see if i can

[tropic summit]

hilarious, couldn't even kill your helmT because of noise

[glacial haven]

Well... Im trying to do my PvP homework, so...

I pretty much has almost every Pvp unit in a decent state.

[tropic summit]

they turned you in a pvp main, now they paying the consequences

[glacial haven]

The bare minimum is 7/7/7 skills and OL gear at lvl 2 at least

[glacial haven]

You guys corrupted me. (as my competitive side too)

[hollow lagoon]

Swha offburst indom or?

Oh it’s not linked

?????

anis indom

Rail might do sniper comp for indom biscuit Kekw

[tropic summit]

any anisTT blanc biscuit archetype is a royal pain in the arse to beat, if it's not rookie just skip that team and hit the other 2, because they'll be awfully weaker

[tropic summit]

you're not wrong, that's their weak link there

[unique mountain]

What I'm hearing is try a mirror matchup

[hollow lagoon]

Moran bay helm swha biscuit?

[tropic summit]

run this

[forest zodiac]

what do I do with this in RA? blanc+lib? I tried didn't work

[tropic summit]

from what we've seen, moran can't tank that shiet

anisTT and blanc directly counter stalls in general

[hollow lagoon]

Even with biscuit?

[tropic summit]

ye

[forest zodiac]

this lost

[tropic summit]

you can't stun p1, they're too fast

[tropic summit]

try anisTT blanc biscuit cindy swha

[forest zodiac]

it worked, thanks but what was cindy in there for?

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/survive--k01KQSXJF4D0N4S562TXF22SMZ7

[unique mountain]

Swha indom from his side

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

did you ran mine? forced biscuit indom?

[unique mountain]

Ye ye it lost

[umbral crown]

To burst with double buff

[tropic summit]

who got indom? did lib go through biscuit stacks?

[umbral crown]

[forest zodiac]

it got eaten by noah

[unique mountain]

His anis , mine noah i think or jackal

[tropic summit]

how did anis get indom if you're hitting p5? you killed biscuit pre burst?

you've 3 snipers and 2 minor damage dealing clip RL

[umbral crown]

Happens

[unique mountain]

If it doesn't make sense I could be lying gn

[tropic summit]

i mean if you recorded we'd see what happened

or watched the match

[glacial haven]

@tropic summit FYI, the guy copied my defense team. Specially the Nayuta team. (I dont know if the community use this team already or this archetype.) But he is the second guy to copy me. And for the Rookie arena, I use this.

[tropic summit]

they're all common archetypes

<@&1450788368702111765>

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit so against that team does units get 1 shot?

[umbral crown]

Rosanna could not nuke SnowHA

[glacial haven]

This is what I try when I see THelm and SW together....

[tropic summit]

between 2RL - 2.5RL the power spike begins, as in there's so much damage taken AoE wide that all the teams die, it doesn't help that biscuit buys enough time for that to happen, so the only actual counter we've seen is nero moran teams that have the time to stack up DR, but even then it's a race of time before your nero dies

it's the pvp bane team, you just don't wanna fight it because it's ridicolous

[rustic halo]

https://tenor.com/view/piccolo-aura-piccolo-aura-aura-farming-aura-farm-gif-4796219510675252498

[tropic summit]

it's a good thing that by itself is an expensive team, so you can't run it in SP arena without making your other 2 teams shiet

[umbral crown]

Sounds about right

[tropic summit]

but we'll start seeing it everywhere in rookie soon enough

[glacial haven]

What team?

[umbral crown]

I alrrady like this mod

[quick lake]

rosy, any NNeon cooks?

[glacial haven]

Maybe is worth it for Rookie

[umbral crown]

Im trying to but its hard to give her indom

Since she needs buffers to work preperly in pvp

[hollow lagoon]

shrug

[quick lake]

Unbuffed Neon works? or no

[hollow lagoon]

neon has a lot of self buffs

[tropic summit]

[quick lake]

Indom would still go to Anis

Neon doesnt nuke either

[umbral crown]

But hits all 5

[tropic summit]

which still hurts like a truck

[umbral crown]

In burst

[quick lake]

yeah, either Indom Neon or Noah Neon ig

[umbral crown]

With neon P4 was thinking and having her a B1 buffer

[quick lake]

Only have RH and Anis

I’ll do some tests tmr

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit ade would nulli blanc debuff no?

just need some one crazy enough to build ade

[tropic summit]

there's an handful of people who've ade built to test it, this man could test @glad meteor

[glad meteor]

Yeah she would if it’s the first debuff

[quick lake]

I recently realised that Frima passively gives 6% passive maxHP buff

[hollow lagoon]

can neon and swha be rosa poked?

[tropic summit]

rosa dispels neon healthy body at 1RL, if neon takes dmg between 1RL and 2RL B1, she won't be sniped

as the effect would re-apply

[hollow lagoon]

so the effect apply on hit?

[tropic summit]

assuming neon isn't p1 then you could potentially kill her

[hollow lagoon]

and there's no pre effect to dispell?

[tropic summit]

dunno tho haven't seen it actually tested, this is just theory

it could be that it just enters CD afterall

[hollow lagoon]

i need to read the kits

[glad meteor]

1.5rl

[gaunt pulsar]

neon dies to 1 shot if she doesn't trigger her healthy body, so rosa doesn't even need to dispel anything to kill her, but yea like Rail said if healthy body is applied after rosa did her dispel she should tank it but idk, there hardly that scenario that can make neon take hit after rosa dispel

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit kit wording to me feels more like if she gets attacked she goes invuln and immune to debuffs, does it cancel the initial hit instance or no?

[quick lake]

yes should be. Prydwen had the same comment

[hollow lagoon]

is swha trigger before or after rosa dispell

[hollow lagoon]

so neon does take the damage of the initial hit

[gaunt pulsar]

before

[quick lake]

If her invuln hasnt happen. should still be hit by rosa

[hollow lagoon]

so swha can trigger neon and rosa can dispell

or not dispell to begin with

and just rosa and hope for best

[gaunt pulsar]

i wonder if rosa due to being 2 hit burst and not 1 could still trigger her healthy body and not kill 🤔 or it would count as 1 because at the same time

[hollow lagoon]

it could be 2 hit

like cindy hit then apply additional damage?

@gaunt pulsar would this in theory work?, indom anis prob out las nayuta.... sad

[north brook]

Main issue ive found with neon is swha instantly procs her even in backline

[hollow lagoon]

sac into a indom

[gaunt pulsar]

against which team?

[hollow lagoon]

the neon team

this thingy

i know rail posted a solution but

i wonder if there's an alternative

[quick lake]

Could run any 2RL nuke + Siren i didnt see Rail’s solution

[gaunt pulsar]

if rosa is linked maybe, you not living through anis though i think

[hollow lagoon]

basically its a indom swha or indom anis

nasty

[gaunt pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq0Sw5tptr0 close
we dont have Neons in the same setup to test though, but was fun to try breaking that one

[tropic summit]

how consistent is this?

i guess anisTT fire rate being lower increases the odds if anything

[lost ether]

atk team just burst slower no?

[tropic summit]

it's dependant on CS% on anisTT side, if she lands her atk in between SWHA when they both run out of indom it would be defender's win

it's just realistically less likely than SWHA

[gaunt pulsar]

dunno, first time tryed, but using anisTT was crucial, otherwise speed is too low with someone like trina on 11% cs and if we using anistt there might be better options anyway, so not as cheap

[tropic summit]

mhm makes sense, either way it helps having more data on this, thanks for sharing

[lost ether]

i got some for u too

thats my neon and anis tt stat

[gaunt pulsar]

doesn't smell tactical, so much ele and no atk%, Ingrid would be disappointed using some magic stat instead of firepower one
but jokes aside, that's a lovely combination anyway

[lost ether]

bricked neon for cs

[spiral mica]

sadly the guy i fought was like insanely high power lel i got fried

[tropic summit]

don't forget to multiply enemy teams CP for 0.846, if your team don't meet that requirement, don't even try it

stat penalty makes counters mostly pointless

[quick lake]

Anis is so broken

1v1 Anis with Life steal was funny

[spiral mica]

Yeah 😔

[glad meteor]

Za ade cook

Time to snow blanc siren anis jackal and lose to moran

[glass wing]

help

having issue with anis

[glad meteor]

Sasuga p2 blanc

[versed mesa]

@tropic summit The C4 attacked me again but lost this time Didn't do anything except shuffle my team order and gave my Vesti a tempering, since I was using resi for the CP.

I guess he was doing something to misindom that team or he was doing a indom counter himself and tempering was enough for my Vesti to survive longer.

Just guessing ofc

[tropic summit]

edit: forgot to add biscuit, added
run these you're on the left

conditions:

• teams assumed not in deficit
• noise vigor, noah tempering
• jackal anisTT quantum, laplaceT vigor and higher HP than SWHA
• anis in T3 is anisTT

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/todd-howard-it-just-works-1--k01KQT70AZHN4KKHFVE9XNG2FTS

[glass wing]

You have any recommendation for defense?

[glass wing]

and thx

[tropic summit]

• nayuta anisTT privT emilia helmT
• jackal vestiTU xmaiden blanc laplaceT
• moran noah biscuit swha trina

[versed mesa]

Oh wait I did level synchro up 2 levels, but I doubt the small stat and cp increase from that would make that big of a difference. Especially since switching to tempering also took Vesti down about 12k cp.

Both C3 and C4 are like 1 and 2 levels away from 721 though, so they are both getting the big cp boost. Next season might be pretty brutal

I swear I am trying to be more chill

[tropic summit]

meh remember what i told you yesterday, the moment it becomes unhealthy just take it easy and sit in lower ranks, don't go exhausting yourself for silly indie game

[versed mesa]

A multi dollar company

[tropic summit]

can't afford improving FPS or adding basic QoL

[versed mesa]

Well you can't expect them to work TOO hard. Those gacha costumes don't design themselves

[scarlet adder]

@tropic summit it worked

[severe tundra]

Does it make sense to give anis star indom over swha or vestiTU

[tropic summit]

decoy doing its job

good job

[tropic summit]

swha or vestiTU can be dealing more damage if enemy is running high DR

although anisTT indom on her own is strong too

[glad meteor]

Can she get taunted. Or her stars are rng

[tropic summit]

i think this question was asked already a few days back, i remember someone saying the stars were RNG

[glad meteor]

makes sense

[placid bloom]

if you're hitting mirror then Anis indom is worse because her stars end before indom wears off. Into any other matchup it's okay.

[glad meteor]

Level 25 nte , last i saw you were level 18

Checked it on App Store Open world, and there’s cars

[undone blaze]

used a lock on 1st slot, 3 times i got nothing on 2 and 3...

[glad meteor]

From mr beast to kai cenat

They are evolving

[tropic summit]

not just cars

[versed mesa]

I can kill Kraken now before the submerge

https://tenor.com/view/je-gif-20416097

[glad meteor]

Km/h

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

Why are there 2 people on the bike

[versed mesa]

What is wrong with the superior speed measurement?

[glad meteor]

[glad meteor]

will not entertain

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/rules-97--k01KQTBXTRZEGFXCNTR9S2Y64WM

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

So bla bla… yuri

[versed mesa]

[severe tundra]

I got reset sniped from 2nd into 10th place in rookie

The Grudge is real.

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/lycoris-recoil-lycoris-1--k01KQTC0PV4HYR6MMGEW8G6DWT8

[severe tundra]

I can feel my true damage increasing

[arctic jewel]

I don't remember Privaty looking like this? 🤔

[tropic summit]

weird looking privaty but i won't judge

[arctic jewel]

[glad meteor]

[hollow lagoon]

@tropic summit i mentally prepared my self with my only 4 rocks to roll line 3

[tropic summit]

[hollow lagoon]

i think my cindy is benched

[steep oak]

@tropic summit May I bother you for some special arena advice?

[tropic summit]

neonOS main time

[tropic summit]

what's up

[hollow lagoon]

4atk 3cs 3ele 1ammo and a crit rate

[tropic summit]

what's the element needed again for 46 boss node?

[hollow lagoon]

neon

[tropic summit]

[steep oak]

You've been helping me for years with teams, but this guy is finally starting to beat me again.

[hollow lagoon]

its already dead anyway

but like, it kind of dosn't matter

[tropic summit]

defense teams are getting screwed by anisTT, it was already difficult before forming 3 decent teams, now everyone with access to anisTT can steamroll any team

[tropic summit]

we've entered the clown era of pvp

[steep oak]

I have everyone, my Anis and Neon are both built.

[versed mesa]

Stop stealing my attack lines

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

i will defeat you one day

[versed mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/picard-perfect-lose-loser-gif-20512447

[tropic summit]

run these you're on the left

conditions:

• swha tempering
• rh vigor
• jackal and anisTT quantum

in the other team give tempering to noah

[arctic jewel]

cute

[hollow lagoon]

I finally have good luck with a unit

[steep oak]

Is there any replacement for Rumani? I can build her tomorrow but currently no rocks.

[tropic summit]

• swha blanc rh centi jackal
• noah biscuit cindy helmt anisTT

if centi isn't phase 1 but phase 2 or phase 3 treasure, run trina instead

[versed mesa]

Damn I have several levels worth of battle data and credits boxes, been awhile since I was limited by core dust alone, even with using a ton of credits to overload gear

[steep oak]

Understood, any advice on a team 3?

[umbral crown]

Context

[tropic summit]

skip it

[tropic summit]

anisTT

[umbral crown]

Oh yeah yeah

Now any team is strong with her

[steep oak]

Right on. As usaul, I greatly appreciate your help.

[tropic summit]

the teams on the left are facing the teams on the right, just to confirm

[steep oak]

Understood 🫡

[tropic summit]

well there's 2 very strong and braindead teams to run nowdays thanks to anisTT

you can't defend against those 2 with any def... so

glad it worked out for 2 attempts at least, they served their purpose

@fickle furnace try this next, although if he figured out the one i gave you before, this one is a tad easier

still runs a different approach to indom and anti nuke, might make him trip

[jade grotto]

Hey guys should I just be putting resilience/bastion for everybody? My other cubes are lvl 6, so I don't know if I should still be using quantom/vigor/tempering/etc on my teams.

[tropic summit]

what are the teams you're running

[fickle furnace]

dang, so i guess we are in a offense biased situation again. It was fun when defenses reigned

thank you for the teams! I will try

[jade grotto]

I think one of your earlier recommendations I found here:
moran helmt swha noah biscuit
jackal nayuta trina cindy laplaceT
anisTT vestiTU rapunzel drakeT

[steep oak]

Does this look right?

[tropic summit]

moran tempering
helmt tempering
swha any
noah any
biscuit any

jackal quantum
nayuta any
trina quantum
cindy any
lapalceT quantum

anisTT any
vestiTU tempering
rapunzel vigor
drakeT any
you missing a unit here, i'm guess it's blanc, vigor

[fickle furnace]

whats the op attack teams btw?

[tropic summit]

2RL nayuta-privT-anisTT
2RL moran noah
or
2RL indom
2RL moran noah

depends on what they facing, but there's gonna be always at least 1 team weak to stall and 1 team weak to indom

anisTT can improve both teams, so it's just making it worse for the defender

it's the paradox of releasing stronger and stronger units, attackers gets more tools, defenders gets further f*ed

[tropic summit]

ye looks good, ensure you put cubes on and you can run those

just confirming but centi is phase 1, not phase 2 or phase 3

if she's any other phase but phase 1 use trina instead

[fickle furnace]

thanx, makes sense

[fickle furnace]

last q, for team 3 here is it RL2.5 or should I add quantum to get RL2

[tropic summit]

T3 is 2RL regardless

[steep oak]

This is phase 1, correct?

[tropic summit]

ye looks like it

with anisTT 6% team wide burst gen increase you easily hit past 100% there

[fickle furnace]

thanks, deck must not be facotring that in

[tropic summit]

nah it doesn't, it would be an headache

[fickle furnace]

will report back

[steep oak]

Last question and I'll leave you alone, tempering level 6 is better than my resilience level 15 for PvP?

[tropic summit]

fingers crossed he trips once at least

[tropic summit]

depends on the teams and the units

on a general rule of thumb, always have tempering on your main B3s who are exposed to damage and ofc to your tanks (noah, moran etc)

for example in your indom swha team, swha being p1 badly can and will use tempering

[fickle furnace]

now that I know that attack is OP, I will prob stop asking for more teams, since its not really worth it. maybe I will just cycle between the teams you shared lol

[tropic summit]

you can keep changing up defense teams, maybe eventually something will work and make them trip

if you get them to gem with a certain frequency, chances are they'll get tired eventually

[steep oak]

My Noah and Moran are not using Tempered, switch right?

[twilit bay]

Do I win here?

[fickle furnace]

true

[twilit bay]

This is the team that I'm skipping

[fickle furnace]

except the gem part. he doesnt get tired

[tropic summit]

depends on the team but in general they prefer in most circumstances tempering

[tropic summit]

T3 might misindom on ada, if not then it's a win
T1 looks a bit risky, you could be stalling them enough although
T2 wrong counter to this team

not the teams i'd run

i'd run these

• can abuse their p1 B3 to force indom offburst, which then becomes stallable
• can abuse their p1 and p2 defender slower team for an easy time with indom vestiTU

[twilit bay]

skip T3? It looked the weakest to me at first glance.

[tropic summit]

suffers from the same weakness, just that you need a biscuit indom type or an anti nuke with protected p1 and p2

[fickle furnace]

heres the real challenge in my bracket
his def:
t1: moran bay lib mana jackal
t2: noah helm biscuit siren staranis
t3: blanc swha rapu laplace centi

[tropic summit]

T1 vesti blanc rh centi jackal
T3 noah biscuit helmt siren swha

i'm assuming they don't have the CS% for T3, but if they do you can change approach

since T2 has helmT main B3 you can abuse with slow cindy

so there's also that

[forest zodiac]

would this work? t2 not sure, should be just fat enough and t3 is 0.5rl slower blanc (lib+rh link)

[fickle furnace]

thanks, i will think about it if the other guy stops hitting me

[tropic summit]

• don't indom duel when possible, too RNGy
• the anti nuke team is fine

[tropic summit]

i'd run these

[forest zodiac]

thanks, I'm kinda scared building stuff like t1 from screenshot on my own

[tropic summit]

why? look at the damage sources:

• moran: pepega dmg
• noah: pepega dmg
• helmt: average dmg
• cindy: pepega dmg
• laplaceT: average dmg

you distributing to p3 and p5, 3 out 5 of those are only hitting p1, blanc is safe, vesti is safe

vesti has x3 HP pool and on tempering and SR15 DR

at that point you got nothing to be scared of

[twilit bay]

Thank you, It worked. I ran Nayuta, Centi, Lib, Rumani, Emilia for T3 which won as well.

[forest zodiac]

problem is I have way too many videos of moran tanking 3+ nikkes alone

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/good-anime-1--k01KQTGDSSYBMCWPPB894Q24BHT

[forest zodiac]

and vesti attack rate\reload times being scary too

[tropic summit]

there's no biscuit and if your vestiTU is well built it shouldn't happen, you can also run double buff SWHA instead which can 1shot moran unless there's a biscuit if you're unsure on vesti

SWHA 2nd nuke is lethal on double buff to moran

(again unless biscuit protected)

[forest zodiac]

wait in t2 it says anis

anis star?

[tropic summit]

ye ofc

you can swap anisTT with centi and run rumani instead, retains same logic in case you want extra buffing on your indom

[forest zodiac]

is it new version of that excel sheet? could you share link pls?

[tropic summit]

the sheet is still the same from kosmiu, use the nikke.app instead as it tends to be more regularly updated

https://nikke-deck.com/en/deck

[forest zodiac]

i do have anistt, that what Iwas using atm yeah

[forest zodiac]

I couldn't find that excel sheet updated

[tropic summit]

same purpose in case you wanna throw anisTT to your indom for extra damage and ensuring lethal

for reference here is anisTT increase on %dmg if ran as flex p4 offburst (in indom teams)

1. no offburst buffer
2. ada offburst buffer
3. anisTT offburst buffer

[forest zodiac]

t1 toppled over even before getting to the point of indom however t3 lost

[tropic summit]

t3 was throwaway anyway, just put together something that had a chance

[forest zodiac]

ah, I see

thanks for help

[jade grotto]

What's an elite team I can run for Rookie arena? I'm really only missing Emilia. Just one of the meta SP Arena teams or is it different?

[tropic summit]

here's a no brainer

• anisTT blanc helmt biscuit swha

just keep in mind it's likely it will spread to all of your bracket

[jade grotto]

Nah I think they're way too high level to worry about me

[placid bloom]

the top of my bracket already shifted to Anis Vesti Blanc Biscuit SWHA after I used it

it's either that or Helm

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/fb-f-band-i-gdown-1--k01KQTH7EC6XKFKBEDD40DRBA4M

[placid bloom]

I saw one experiment with Neon but he also shift to Vesti after a day, seem Neon isn't very good

[merry patio]

I'm lucky then, in my bracket people don't follow trends... the CP gap is high enough they don't need to 🤣 🤣

[placid bloom]

Vesti is just poopy faceroll unit

[jade grotto]

Wow, this just let me beat a guy that had >160k CP on me...what a crazy team. Maybe people would get pissed off enough to take it.

[tropic summit]

[stiff hearth]

any suggestions on beating this team?

[tropic summit]

try

• anisTT blanc helmt biscuit swha

[gritty ridge]

Yay charge speed