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322.5 * 2.1 = 677.25% per charge
Mihara is 500%
So Neon is 37.5% stronger than dead Mihara
midhara but electric and stronker
Meh
Dont think she has enuf dmg
Emilia how much %
are they really gonna kill the hype by making her mid 
(1550% + S1) * 61 * 159%
941 * 159
1511% damage
Times ATK buff
Neon is so weak lmao
Not sure about her damage and burst gen but this sounds annoying. Even if it has a 20sec cooldown
S-SS at best
Its only useful for combating certain enemies like Nayu Vesti or Helm snipe given she gets hit first
eh to pop it twice you'd need to pop it very early on and still behind stalls or shields
most matches end within 10-15s
Takina value

She can be bait tho
Make her p4 so she will get dmged at opponent's b3
Isn't it 0.61% final atk * 250% charge *(atk * 2.1) * 2.5 atk dmg ~ 8 * atk ?
I have a Noise + Noah + Rapi where Noise bursts at 156f and Noah at 188f, going against Scarlett+Trina+Jackal. How likely that Rapi survives/dies before 156f (roughly 34 hits from Rapi) or 188f (52 hits from Rapi) due to reflect? (Noise burst is maxed out, Rapi is max core. Scarlet is well built, around 170k CP)
scarlet % to counter is around 30%, assuming 34 hits then you'll likely take at least 10 hits, that's quite a bit of damage on RRH, best running a different B3 altogether
also ensure your noise and noah team is 2RL
prob dies imo, gut feel
I get betrayed 
Never trust again
Have to x3 because of jackal link iirc
@gaunt pulsar 
odds were 70 against 30 and the 30% won as i expected 
can't trust majority for shiet
So its functionally 100+ procs at 30%
ah good point
a very dedge RRH then
Nah, i tried to trust him because his name
are you sure it is x3 procs with Jackal? I went against same comp with 135k scarlet, it cut out roughly 40% of Rapi's hp (only one sample so not sure how lucky that was)
good
mislead 
RNG is still RNG, if you get lucky you may aswell get hit only a few times, it's a risk you can run if you're bold/lazy enough
I think so 
Pretty old findings, cant rmb or maybe I misinfo 
@tropic summit It's CA
bet on the other 4 matchups and leave that one on RNG imo
it all depends on that match sadly
e.g. if you know one of the two is 4-1 you can still safely bet
ehhhh 
tell jesus to take the wheel and vote
ehh, I don't really care about the vote (had both frames long time ago). Just curious if I would be able to win or not
if the answer relies on RNG, just gamble it
if their scarlet is well built and not pepega, i'd bet scarlet
if their scarlet is BS, bet on RRH
you can tell by doll and my overall CP of that unit
Whays the wheek cooking that fails x4 and even gemming
roughly how much total damage % does a well built attacker have to do to kill a max core attacker in CA?
for reference show both teams to start with
Scarlett is C1, 165k Core 1, SR15. Rapi is 170k CP, max core, SR15.
Noise 156F, Noah 188F
Scarlet team CS irrelevant
full teams are relevant tho, share full teams
@tropic summit I had to go home early because my phone was needed to MFA something 
inb4 turns out the noah team is 3RL
sounds like a good excuse, you sly fox 
do you mind showing the entire teams?
so it is more like a 1.7RL team
nah I would have stayed but it was preventing me doing shit so yup
I sent you request 
aight gonna refuse it
probably a scammer or someone who wants to sign me up to a cult
would you like to join our cult?
we have candy
at 581 i was unable to DPS check the small parts 
give it a shot regardless and just see if you can break the part at the start
put destruction cube on doroS
if you can clear that, you MAY hold a chance
What's the boss? Only One?
nah no good, my destro cube level 5
was going to bump it to level 7 next UR
The way I did it was to charge Doro lasers at the start, stop shooting, burst just before the tentacle then switch to Helm and quick shots
This fight was 10% breaking the tentacle and 90% surviving Behemoth for me
my best chance for cp is missing s.doro totally and running SWHA/HelmT/Priv
Doro helps a lot for the tentacles
all the clears use doro π³
you need to be able to clear the small parts
the next thing is pushing it with SWHA B3
but in my case it wasn't just undoable without doro
Time to pause between each SWHA shot to gain frames lol
you've time from here to 581 to save rocks and get doro better OLs
need to fatten her up some
I had 1.7b power I think but my water is not the best
i'll have to work on but neon needs some build I care more about SR ranking OK than this atm
a choice you can make i guess
I'm still on Altruia because I refuse to build Chisato
Just 3 more levels and I can clear it
that feels low cp for that sync though
chisato clears start at 601 if whel
This is the lowest clears at my power, I'll just Anis Crown RRH Helm Mast when I get to 1.9b+ power 
Yeah I thought the same and mentioned it, no SR15 and low dupes, apparently the ada and takina OLs suck
But was still enough to kill 1 shield
Idk the chisato invests though
my chisato semi built
Both her and takina are not even in sync device for me 
Why dors this photo feel colourless
Iron sucks so much 
Chisato 
Only core nikke is not even iron smh
76/22 chisato hm
Iron good when pierceable content
it's because of how SW is staring back at you
I'm a freaking iron main in UR and let me tell you how bad it is 
They let me hit on wind to compensate 
Skip iron. Water Wind Fire 
Both my EVE and Raven are 90/20
Most my iron dps 4 ele, but lacking atk ols and core
It's depend on your goal. Min is 11%. SR and LapT needs 2 tiers less. Anis needs 1 tier less
@gaunt pulsar thx gg 
Anis needs one tier less CS than other RL just average it out with your roster.

what teams he won with? 
How do you counter this except playing the same team and Prayge for RNG in your favor ?
Oh woa, scarlet lost to SW in indom duel. 
Maybe your team is faster in CS? Or SW indom is just that good. 
Thanks for the Video though.
u right 100%
@tropic summit Ah shoot
IT HAD TO BE DONE

Ah yes
The battle of 67
Will be for most of us not doing true dmg stuff 
lol really want u taught me how to predict
The dmg requirements are actually pretty low when a shield kill is possible with true dmg
Lib just died before Blanc burst so Nvm.
Yeah, Scarlet indom can win but you need to be slower than your opponent by a frame. That's hard to do if it's not my own account. 
maybe SW indom is just better ig 
no worries 
Building chisato though, my poor rocks 
ok, I will try to do that. Thank you 
slower indom is an answer, SWHA takes time to charge up, it gives you the chance to run a 2.5RL or 3RL indom, pick a B3 with high fire rate
I know this isn't photoshopped but why is it 6 7 
They being a pest
Well, thank you for testing indom scarlet. I will try to think of a fool proved one for that comp.
Oh wait wtf @tropic summit
Indom SWHA beats Moran/Noah/SWHA
Ugh a battle of endurance huh 
if they don't have biscuit ye
Aiyop
we've got to the point where you can't run a f* stall without biscuit 
thanks to all these broken ass units SU keeps sh*tting out
Oh right i havent thought of slow down my full burst i'll try that thanks
Vesti was the harbinger of the end huh 
The Vestipocalypse started it
I lost to Reith the match before because my indom was broken π
else you'd have been voting on me instead of Reith
general understanding of how units work and perform usually enough 
just yap in this chat
Guh
Guess after Anniv I have to start building the crazy units
Label / Nero / Rumani / Rapunzel / Rosie
u have two discords? 
lol sad but i wasn't cheer in ur group game before this . they give me group 3 to cheer
next time maybe π
i hooe Rng is good to me this CA
Their team is 2.5 RL, you may use something like
Scarlet+Blanc+Rapu+Bay+jackal
To slower your team to 2.5rl as well.
No I'm in the same bracket
lol but still hard to understand how it work i really shit in pvp need much time to know how it work
yeah ovp quite diff game mode
sure if i get group u in i'll cheer u
indeed
How much CS on tvesti to get this benchmark
Why not try to use centi p2 instead of swha
15% iirc. Someone fact check me 
@umbral belfry @quick lake nero - anis vs absolute rosa, ez win. Idk why mana didn't revive anis though
18 above
will try to record this when I got the attempt next time. Thank you 
rosa dispel mana buff, hence no revive
yes, grim is me
|| we're just in the same bracket lol||
@hidden mortar I'm cheering on you, you got good match ups for top 8 
oh, its a buff. Well thats dumb
not enough dps
Still better put emi+absolute besti
hope I win. The top 4 fight will be really funny if I do, either I fight my sp rival of 3 years (the arcana pfp) or m01 who keeps knocking me out in top 8
15% if you think it's enough
But it's actually 21-25% 
oh speaking of, @umbral belfry @quick lake the next fight for my nero comp is a mirror. But its the OG nero team, nero - moran - helm - mana - rapu. No anis
Wtf
easy win 
You need that much to land Vesti 3rd hit at 2rl and not later. 
who needs 25% CS 
21% in my book but if you don't mind your "2rl team" a little slower than 2rl, 15% is fine.
15% would be like 2.1 rl then?
2.2

Bruh adjutant lvl 3 is only 1.59% CS 
imagine if it lost to the og version 
That would need him to have Centi p2 first.
@frank ingot This team would make them 2rl.
But Idk if you had the CP.
3 down, 3 to go
tfw no emi
cursed forever
would be funny but i dont see it happening 
that said i did actually finally lose a fight in rookie with it
liberalio nuke
that other guy seeing nero anis win like 'that's a good idea. I'm with that' and using that next ca
oh weird
my bay vari beat it with buffed lib by moran
oh for sure lmao. We're gonna see ALOT of nero - anis teams from next ca, I'm glad I'm the only one trying it in this bracket. Everyone else pretty much just swapped her for rumani on the cindy comp
pleaseeeee no priv 

well there was also a 60 synch gap
no power deficit because my units are on steroids but yea
I guess raw stats are a pretty big thing too
Stats gain is exponential too so the higher your sync is the more stats you're getting
oh 
21%
su cant help but be cringe
Sync level is scaling with dupes too
Higher sync players gets more value in raw stats from a dupe
oh yea the scar dude hasnt tried to hit me again so he blew his 2 attacks jsut to get at c1 and thats it, almost immediately back down to c7
@fair pivot congrats on making top 8 again 
And what does 7-8cs get me 
Whale
man. They're never going to synch lock spA then, too many people would complain that their auto teams started getting beat
@short moon
at least it's NTE release day
Thanks! You think we're gonna go against each other next?
Yeah....
soon 
I try 2.5RL but my B3 die before i can full burst i looked at their blabla and it didnt even that strong and CP not far different at all. Is it possible to be able to burst before 2RL ?
If I make it through but majority donβt believe in me for this match 
They'll never do that because keeping the whales happy is more important. Time to use the rest of your gems to wipe out, just kidding 
Your game huh
Well, her 2nd shot would be before 2rl.
0% is base Vesti 7.8%
Starting from 5% it's 15.6%.
At 21% it's 23.4%
@hidden mortar I just realized mana ver is faster even with 18 cs bay
i reset mana ages ago pls I don't wanna rebuild
what did you run?
it needs to have p1 and p2 defender, your indom target in p3 and run biscuit
I'll give it a try like most gachas but idk if I'll like it or not
Wait so tvesti has CS built in ooooh
So 7.X cs is about 15cs total for tvesri
Oh so Besti need 2 CS
Maybe i need to switch my b3 to other position so they can survive longer im making rookie mistake damn
yea I checked yesterday lol. Mana is faster than any normal RL and only 2% slower than snow white
its crazy
i don't wanna rebuild her 
Champion frame, higher level and still non-believers, what do they know 
anisTT blanc scarlet biscuit SWHA/helmT
the alcoholic calls to you
@lusty gull
Would be nice if you could mark Vesti with 5% and 21%. People confused about this a lot.
Guys with 15% think their Vesti team with "symbol" 2rl but actually not.
Guys with 5% thinking their team with 93% at 2rl not 2rl team but they actually are 2rl. 
and their team is 2.5m CP idk maybe it just CP diff too if i use this team maybe need to switch to higher CP characters

Check my previous match round 5 nayuta vs vesti was crazy 
if 2.5 you need 2115k+
oh so my set up should be fine as long as it not lower than that then
ye no CP penalty if you higher than enemyCP x 0.846
wut
so is less CS on vest better or am I reading this wrong
I keep having to deal with this shit at least once a week on this chat. It stupid.
Nah ur team just too slow.
Siren eats that
there's no siren he's fighting indom duel
he meant 5% without the symbol, so he is correct, people have 5% > dont press it and think they aren't 2rl when they actually are
nah you want as high as possible I think. but too fast and vs scar first shot hits her shield. doesn't matter for trio rosa though 
my vesti is just chilling at 15 cs
ohhh. Ok I got it
Vesti in Nikke.deck is not correct. She is more complex than just a 15% bring her to 23.4% gen
At 0% she is 7.8
At 5% she became 15.6
At 21% she became 23.4
The number isn't absolute. Just use Nikke.top for team with Vesti. 
well, we'll find out tomorrow
I've got 20CS on her and I have to fight scar - trina in top 8
π«‘ thanks
get 1 more cs line / get better attributes to make it 21 cs or just use cs cube 
i don't know and like i said, you should always test your team
i can remove one hit at 2 rl eventually
The thing is this is the comp i run first in my lobby and then they start to copy and now im trying to solve my own problem LOL
rip that scar trina vs your trio rosa though. they're cooked
yea its 19.85 and I have tempering on her....guess I need to use adjutant huh
So 5% CS on ur tvesti is β‘
indeedy
I'll keep that in mind too thanks
The problem is ignorance of other people using it not me. 
high cs is especially good on absolute
maaan. I really should level up my adjutant cube but I'm hoarding mats in case they give us cube level 20
rolling for 21 from raw OL will make me go bald

Does Star Anis need Charge Speed for PvP?
Assuming I'm min-maxxing according to Prydwen's 4xEle,4xATK,1-3xBullet, is it better to fill it with Crit or Charge Speed?
β‘add 2 extra shots to vesti, 5% is 1 extra shot which adds only 7.8%, ability to add 1 shot doesn't exist in nikke deck, and to get 2 shots you need true 21% cs
Anyone can help me with the arena pls?
4 ele 4 atk 2 ammo 2 cs probs, or 1 black ammo 3 cs
Nayuta sneak the burst and solo 
who is anis TT ?
wait for real? I stumbled my waay into 3cs 1 black ammo and have been trying to change that to 4cs
PVP GODS!!
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I NEED YOUR HELP!! PRAISE BE TO PVP GODS!! πππ

PLEASE GIVE me hard counter teams to these 3!
I don't have T Moran yet!! (Coming soon)
Thank you PVP GODS!!!
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New Anis alter
No 
Thank you for the input
my preference imo, that's what I'll aim towards
Is there like a broad assumption I could make in how much "feed" 5cs tvesti gives u?
Kinda.like how jackal generally gives at least 7% feed. What could I assume 5% cs on tvesti gives me?
Double her no symbol burst gen rather than triple.
T1 noah biscuit helmt siren swha
T3 jackal blanc vestiTU centi laplaceT (laplaceT with vigor)
So how would I go about calculating that here?
+7.8% to it's 2rl value. 
If your Vesti had 5% cs
So 5%cs tvesti gives 7.8% "feed" then if I simplify it?
I will try now thank you PVP GOD
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Just use nikke.top. 
Nikke top is scary for me still
but you should be called 5
@swift mango π
Alright thanks propodia bothering with that πͺ 
Thats actually useful info
Maybe I can change my def around a bit now since the tvesti team should hit 2rl easier
I tried to update my defense teams by browsing messages here
Not sure if i did it right. Any obvious improvements?
And what cubes i need to set on who
**SP arena **
- nayuta crown lib helmt rh
- jackal cindy emi blanc drakeT
- anisTT biscuit siren RRH SWHA
Notes
- wishlist/build asap moranT, vestiTU, SWHA
- build up asap noah, biscuit, jackal (they're very low invest)
Once the above are done get your teams upgraded again
as long as CP is good, those actually look good, nice job
F
I run that exact 3rd team 
Cool, thx
@fair pivot the guy u facing copied my exact setup from previous ca π seems like win for u
nice. ty
I think whats keys is temperance on moran and bay + ur highest cube (resil/bastion) on ur attackers like snow tvesti

i guess snow ele is too much even for nero to handle π
@tropic summit Seven really doesn't want to be C7
Maybe I've made my point already 
So long as they had Blanc you lose
bro it was moran snow rapu bay bisc
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Biscuit diff, well you used old Nero team so not that tanky. SW and tons of healers solve you
you won the mental warfare 
yea bisc+ snow ele vs zero dmg moran nero old team
I am getting targeted in rookie
This was me for a while
looks like a medal of honor
But I wasnt even high up
The guy hit me.for 8 points
Cuz I broke his def a couple times
Oh this guy is gemming wtf
Lol I didn't notice but yeah it's got the sg Scarlet cook. I got 1, 3 and 4 I believe.
@oak hatch i lost
This was the deciding match
@umbral belfry e-girl, you were right
5 too maybe
Your 5 with off burst rosa 
my bad i jinxed it
Is it THE scarlet 
Rip that matchup is pretty bad, it went well too with rumani not dying
ye, in a way rumani surviving gates dmg to cindy, but i feel like noah shield was still up a bit when cindy nuked them
would anis help, if i switch rumani next time?
Siren that T3
You need Anis
Well maybe it can her damage very good with blanc but not sure until we see it
E-girl?
my nickname for it
Win against any delayed Burst indoms:
- Mihara Blanc Anis Biscu Priv
Auto that.
@late tiger Iβm running it like this for ca
Huh?
Pics, or it's just a lie
LMFAO
Hime is a catfish then.
take out the e and call me him
i see, but wouldnt mihara survive that way?
Him is a catfish.
π

Your pronouns say she/her but u want to be called him
Confusing

When is Catfish challenger
She might or she donβt, but u want anis and blanc up front to receive damage to make biscuit protect them so they donβt die early, as long as anis and blanc gets in their bursts dps is very strong
Biscuit indom is fun
Biscuit indom is fine, u have mihara dot
got it
Shud be he he

when Neon lands
π 
does this have big chance to win? my vesti has 18 ammo so should be shooting whole full burst
In my experience tvesti into shwa + ada indom can lose
Cuz the swha gets lifesteal + ele advantage so it just outheals ur dmg
are you trying to die by placing 3 linked units at p1 p2 p3 against anis/swha?you sure you want that amount of dmg? place blanc p3 and move vesti to p5 at least
aah forgrot anis attack range increases
i should have indom longer and that hopefully wins this
Even if u have indom longer they can end up max hp as it ends whilst u are 1 hp
So then u need to kill her right there otherwise u lose
Ive had this happen before
Better chance running an indom that isnt at ele disadvantage I would say
safest way is to make them indom lib but you stun her, so it's a lib offburst, very easy to stall
noah biscuit anisTT helmT siren
i have no noah, as i see it, swha is super slow and i might stun her if siren survives and i kill whole team leaving swha
3.2 seconds is a lot
you dont really want swha to get indom there as she is will be on ada lifesteal buff, that's can be a gg even when his indom is faster, but if you stun lib and she gets indom might be fine 
how the f this got to top 8 @umbral crown
@tropic summit My old SP rival didn't fail me. He won his CA and I got my 6xCredits 
I have an opponent who exclusively uses max core PvE teams 
I'm forced to fight him at a 25+ percent deficit as a result
Is ultra-buffed Lib and Vesti the best choice to counter him?
Nayu Anis Helm Biscu X 
Huuuuuuuh?!
Fight indom with infinitely lifestealing Anis.
and this beauty
π π π π π
bro is a believer
He won against all odds.
Maybe super ultra mega investment?
his 4D chess game is too strong
~~no it's been just luck, but equally amazing
~~
Must have been Defense. Enemy P5 exposed.
as exposed as your ass
which team should i use for rookie arena?
With a team like that, maybe everything that I know is a lie
just CA things, lock in and yolo
strongest shield indeed
What are her stats?
oh hey this is my bracket, lmao
nayuta anisTT cindy helmT emilia
does lowest remaining HP = lowest HP value or lowest HP %?
nothing special
can you show me your top 10 in SP arena? wonder if Sync ended up there
rumani simply never took bisc invul so noah got both charges isntead
say you've:
SBS 90 HP
blanc 50 HP
helmT 95 HP
centi 100 HP
jackal 98 HP
your indom is going to be SBS
sure, one sec
Determination
and no it's total HP @finite scarab
that's why indomming defenders and supporters is harder than indomming attackers
Value
Hmmm, I kinda wanna use Nayuta/AnisTT/HelmT/something/something
yea i think its lowest current hp at the time blanc bursts b2 so its not hp%
How scuffed is this team? Scarlet and Helm linked.
@tropic summit
burst with privT and you mitigate indom and stalls
oh all unfamiliar names, thanks for sharing
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c1 is in here
like if u have sync 1 unit in ur team with blanc, even if that unit never took dmg and is higher hp% it would still get indom
assuming noise is linked, that's a pseudo scarlet stall, was common in 2024, way more effective if you throw a scarlet buffer in there (xmaiden, s.anis or anisTT)
keripo uses still a similar team in 2026 with xmaiden variant
anisTT noise scarlet jackal noah would be an interesting team if you somehow manage to get anisTT linked
stanis attacks just p1 without burst?(according to nikke top) and after burst p1, p2, p3?
I got that by pressing auto
or well I swapped Centi with Noah, since they are only 10k cp difference, my top 6 CP Nikkes
All CN but us 
it's destiny at this point, you shall run the keripo scarlet 
global is just cn server 
why is this the case? stat scaling on the classes?
isnt position 1 always the indom unit?
looks like you're unfamiliar with targetting if you're asking this question:
- RL units hit p1 and p2
- emi and vestiTU hit up to p3
- enemy SGs when you attacking target p5
- rare cases have units hitting even p4 (SWHA) or units with specific conditions (SBS)
all of the above can cause misindom if you're not running the jackal kind of indom
additionally, even with jackal kind of indom, your main target needs to be lowest HP in link, else you're going to indom the wrong target
AnisTT hits p1 p2 p3 pre-burst and whole screen after b1, like vestiTU but dont have to wait for b3
say your jackal is 100 HP, your indom target 105 HP because of cores and invest your other linked unit 110, you will indom jackal
oh ok, seemed weird how she can only hit only p1 with her pve aoe, thank you
defenders have highest hp scaling and attackers have lowest hp scaling so if ur jackal gets indom over ur attacker ur jackal probably naked no doll no dupes or something
i see yeah that make sense.
is that why some jackal team is: B3-blanc-something-something-jackal to ensure the indom target is the B3?
is this good rookie arena team?
u can do that as long as p1 is linked but u really dont need to
blanc p2 unprotected is very abusable, very odd choice of rosanna aswell 
p1 jackal works the same but if b3 is p1 its possible to siren stun them
my current team is this but it got solved
yeah this is my case, i dont have a doll on jackal, but a SR 15 doll on B3 attacker
how about switching up to anisTT stall
you seem to have all the units
anisTT moran helmt noah biscuit
in that case even if b3 is p1 jackal will still get indom cuz she simply has lowest hp
awesome, I'll try that
if they solve that switch to privT glass cannon
nayuta anisTt privT helmT biscuit
big thanks
Thoughts 
So far my Anis is only 3xEle, low 2xCS% and 1xATK and Ammo, the rest are just random hit rate(
), charge damage and a blue def line.
assuming you can get lib with a buffer or two, you can wipe up to 26%+
vestiTU in this chat has cleared some CP stack teams up to 30% deficit aswell
I was thinking of indom Vesti for the second team, possibly with TTAnis
think the record was from @gritty ridge , what was it 36%?
yeah as long as you can get vestiTU indommed safely, should have a remote chance
and indomming jackal is never a good idea right?
no, if you indom someone it better be a DPS and ideally your main B3
there are a few rare exceptions like anisTT who can count as a DPS although she's a defender
ok
today ive learned...
here's the 2 typical example of indom, the one via rapunzel-blanc and the one via jackal, to give you a few references
obviously 
unless jackal gets a treasure and she does a million dps or something
Has there been any testing on how TTAnis does against high deficit, if using indom 
Another strategy I was considering was Anis indom + Vesti nuke
My opponent's team is basically 4RL or more
might be a dumb question but anis doesnt re-enter b1 with rapiRH, right? Anis is the only b1
Correct
thanks
i thought if jackal is in indom state = no damage taken = link no damage taken
then i learned
but if links are at 1 HP without indom, they will die from other attacks like aoe/snipers/vestiTU/staranis
really hard to get indom on anis so in indom teams shes mostly burst gen+possibly b1 buffer
anisTT DPS is very good, but getting her indommed isn't a simple task, due to how superior her HP is to attackers
even more so in deficit, where they spit and you nearly drop dead
indom isnt invul
u still take dmg u just dont go below 1hp
invul means u take 0/immune dmg
i see, TIL again...
would be really funny tho if blanc indom was teamwide instead of 1 unit
Rapi or RH = no re-enter for her because they're special cases and not considered B1 by the game
I've actually tested this exact thing
Could you please help me? I need a team to fight back this team.
no jackal/biscuit....
miharaBC - anis - blanc - biscuit - privaty, mihara dies instantly, anis and blanc get invul from biscuit, bisc (and maybe privaty) die to other teams burst, anis is guaranteed indom because she's the only valid target. So now you just hope that mihara DoT and anis dps is enough to clinch for you
jackal blanc vestiTU/swha biscuit helmT
really wish we had another mihara DoT on death character lol
thank you so much
oh applies to RH too, thanks 
Interesting strategy 
I'm sadly Midhara-less 
I'm considering running this against the opponent who exclusively uses max core PvE teams
Deficit might be around 25% though
if there's a noah consider siren instead of anisTT, if there's no noah you can slap anisTT
There's no Noah in his teams
No SWHA or Vesti either 
you're also best checking who's linked there, vestiTU is granted but unsure who's the 2nd linked, maybe biscuit
your second linked unit has to have higher HP than vestiTU
He's purely tanking my nukes with his high CP 
ah the silly kind of campaign teams i guess 
He's attacked me almost every single day since the reshuffle a few months back
He's only won around 5 times 
I'm slowly running out of options due to the deficit
Whel power is too strong
π³ makes the best defenses
@keen patio maybe you can try this? Same idea about the team dying and leaving anis- blanc alive to force indom on anis, but now you have maiden and SAnis buffs
though you do need to full burst so it probably wont work that way...
Ironically, if I ever got that kind of money, I would not be playing Nikke
I would be making my dream gaming lair and playing all the actually fun games in my backlog, since I would't need to worry about jobs anymore.
My SAnis and XMaiden aren't very built, so I would probably be facing 35+ percent deficit 
Thank you for the ideas though
any advice to fight back this team?
I'm thinking of trying this out on defense
T3 is a throwaway since it'll get auto'd. Anchor is my highest CP nikke, so she's there for padding
T2
- moran anisTT cindy helmt noah
T3
- jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit laplaceT
Basically my main considerations are survival and nuke/DPS capability
kinda weak T2 and T3... i'd fix at least T2, you don't need anisTT in T1 but you can use her very well in T2
as for T3 fix ordering at least to noise rumani swha noah anchorIM
tbf you may aswell combo anchorIM and trina with a moran stall
moran anchorIM trina swha flex
or run re-enter stall with anisTT and moran
This is specifically to counter the high CP PvE Whale
I can only aim for two wins with what I have
well if he's a π maybe they work 
anis star?
will neonVE be a full p1-p5 aoe burst like anisS and vestiTU
He also has a sniper in two teams
At 25+ deficit, would that be enough to snipe my P5 on defence?
gonna try it, kinda hard to face ppl who had more level than mine
at 25+ deficit you'd die from blue units
before running multiply enemy team CP for 0.846
your team needs to sit above that value
if you don't, just don't bother
OK, thats what I thought 
Which is why my teams are built with this in mind
holy shit I usually get screwed by the pvp player shuffle but this time they took out 3 players that were above me that I had a hard time beating
when he was 583 I always can counter his team but seems I got my limit when he reach 593
That's usually the case for me. I was very surprised with my stroke of luck here
Would appreciate a quick "will I win?" check on this SP match up please (my teams bottom). Thanks as always! 
(cubes will likely be changed to have less Quan hehe)
lose maybe lose
T1 iffy if rapunzel lives, may work
T2 ded
T3 probably ded, can't kill p1 p2 and p5
i'd say run these instead:
T1
- jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit helmT
T2
- moran anisTT cindy helmt noah
Thanks RT. I haven't built AnisTT yet though π
noise rumani cindy helmt noah will do then
alrighty, thx v much, will give it a shot in a bit π
Oh, just spotted duplicate Helm?
you know how to flex units at this point, still need me handholding?
laplaceT/SWHA instead of helmT
it's always the same teams don't worry
If it's just a flex, no worries. Just checking it wasn't a must have Helm. Thanks again π
T2 needs to hit 2RL and helmT is strictly necessary there
T1 can be anything in p5, just ensure you're not stealing vestiTU link
Nice, cheers! π
again obviously you want 2RL or feed to 2RL
how does helm's s2 contribute in terms of burst generation here?
makes her clipRL tier
phase 2 s1 lvl 10 are a given
wait s2+max s1 = phase 2 favourite item or skill 2+max skill1
- she needs to be treasured
- she needs to reach phase 2
- s1 needs to be lvl 10
ah so skill 2 has nothing to do with burst gen? i though s2=skill 2
stands for phase 2 ye
is the reason for the upgrade this? this is an extra attack which generates gauge?
noah, bayT, blanc
situationally nero, anchorIM, nayuta, trina
I was told to run blanc with biscuit as well
hard to powercreep this one, unless SU releases another
depends but can do
As p1, she dies before she bursts for me. Is this a cp deficit issue?
Also, who do you recommend for b1? I use noise still but heard she's useless now
Yes, gives cp and more dmg to helm
Phase 1 and full cs you can reach 1.5 rl or at least 2 rl
My money is on left
For top, but idk enough
This is just gambling for me
or defender wins cus Soda gets to nuke?
Wait Drake killed and Rosa nukes right the defender no?
Bro, the guy on the right mogs the left one
His units are built af
Yes but the defender cant kill
I think it's W ? W L L
I need to know the T2
Wait if Rosa conceal, who will SG attack? Nayuta?
this one is side advantage, one team is stuck on nayuta the other isn't
So attack wins right?
this one is pretty wild instead, if i had to guess i'd just bet on the vestiTU + emilia cuz they have more pre burst DPS
it depends, do you believe right Nayuta is fat enough to kill all 3 of left B3 with just B2 nuke 
if you believe then it will literally just be Nayuta v Nayuta 
No clue
either way @unique wagon ask lomarion or blood, they've pretty good ratio at getting it right, prediction wise
you are overthinking... just T1-B, T2-A...
tbh it will most likely come down to Nayuta v Nayuta anyway, I expect right all 3 B3 to dead and left 2 B3 dead with Noir burst
but Noir burst don't matter if she also dead to Nayuta

Okay so, yeah I keep getting ganged up by 2 commanders in sp arena.
it's just left have FB bonus and right don't
What are the best defense teams?
rookie numbers, they can always jump to 5~8 accounts
probably more if you are in lower ranks
the answer is: the one your opponent doesn't know how to solve
we believe in neon bait indom
best defense team is your wallet
well, i do... not sure if it will work

who can beat you if you are double their CP
hell, they can't even play pvp at all 
How can we figure that out? 
what are considered single-target attacks? everything except for explosions?
by running defense archetypes you didn't run yet
you can ask them if they know how to beat your team
stealing this



most of normal attacks (except RLs), skills have a description of who gets target...
if the range is small in PvE you can expect the range to also be small in PvP 
π€
any example of non-single-target attacks?
that will get you banned on the korean server
lmao... ofc it's korea...
being insecure as always
almost al rocket launchers... sbs explosion range is too smal to hit a 2nd target (in pvp) explosion or pierce range boost also count (nihilister* have pierce range increased after 1 charged atk)
What are the recommend b1 units to use in sp?
the one you have built... there are good b1 units, but the uses depends on the team you want
specifically for rosanna then, any most used pvp units that will counter her concealment buff? vestiTU/anisS?
very situational on the team you're running, most common although:
- jackal
- moranT
- noise
- rosanna
- RH
- anisTT
- rapunzel
- rumani
- soda
- soline
Is jackal ok to run as lone b1? Her burst isn't the greatesf
that depends on the team, in indom teams it can be fine
I thought the π€ meme was only for the korean CZN community, its just a KR thing in general??
didn't know myself tbh, ask @lone sequoia
are you asking about her S1? that is a different thing, because one is a technicality that say that RLs "can't hit rosanna" but their explosion range can still do dmg there... all normal attacks will not target rosanna, but at the moment she gets hit that buff ends, and there are many ways to hit rosanna, like with swha "normal attacks" since her S1 proc against 5 enemies
it was bad enough that that emote was removed from CZN maincord lol
there's just so many petty things nowdays i don't even get surprised anymore 
you could say hi to someone and you might offend someone in 2026
yeah was curious on her concealment buffs
oh thats interesting about swha and rosanna interaction
so rosanna generally is used to dispel buffs, and lesser priority for burst dps?
people fear "the small pp" but they don't know that there is blood and meat team, both can get a "upgrade" with a healthy lifestyle... and there is also different days...

any skill that only target 1 unit in the description will skip rosanna, skills that target 2 or more can hit her if she meet the conditions... scar S2 can also do dmg to rosanna and stop her S1
is rosanna's burst considered one of the highest among other B1 pvp meta units? worth using her to burst or other B1 units with buffs should take priority to buff other B2/B3 units for dps?
no it's situational, you'll use her when you want to punish enemy attackers or need to put pressure early on, or break jackal links
on defense she offers early threat to teams
but she can be abused if she's not linked, as for example SWHA denies part of her kit
imagine being hurt by words written by some random dude on the internet 
again... it depends on the team, for a burst "snipe" she should be the highest b1, more than pepper 1 hit burst, if you plan just to kill one of their attackers that is an option at the moment of making a team, but at higher sync lvl the HP increase is higher so her dmg to neutral elements is not that good and even against water enemies she still need good OL, label will reduce her dmg and take 1 dispel making one of your or enemies attackers keep label electric dmg reduction buff, at the moment is just better to build a team and play the full burst fight
Reset Noir (10/9/4) or Grave S2?
It will be a cold day in hell that I'll reset Noir
reset neither, aren't both still used for pve and CA? 
No and I don't play CA
then reset noir and keep grave? iirc wasn't grave used in a few raids back? if not then reset both
Grave still sees use in solo raids, like team 4/5 though
Don't reset Grave if you're solo raiding
What if you're pvp main?
i remember that the fight was because those so called "incels" with asian tradition almost saying that women must be raped...and some of those women saying they have "small pp" because they can't get p-ssy (low testosterone is a mix of other problems) the thing is that koreans convince themselves thinking that other people care about the bullying those guys got (the truth is that no one cares like many other movements) so the country is like "against" that icon/emote/sticker
Where did this come from? How did conversation get to thjs
damn that's a wild background i didn't know about that emoji
I've never seen this before, where it from
A whole country against a hand emoji lmao
@lone sequoia 
i really hate those words now, i know they evolve over time, but you know what kind of people use those words with the new meaning...
What the actual... how does some random picture evolve into this
π€

yep, but since most of the things there happens on forums is* better to not know about them
yeah that's a world we're fine not knowing about... 
aieee this kill the man
it's fine, if arcana looks at you that way it's probably already a win per se
Excuse me? This person clearly has she/her in the bio. U must be canceled for using wrong gender thingy
i remember reading that zombie had the same meaning as n-gga
the nuggets 
but you know, words evolve over time
fortunately i was born and educated in a time where words didn't hurt someone so easily 
if anything i now know how to easily offend a korean boi, just give em the good ol' π€
funny timing
I doubt people actually care. This seems more like a joke than anything else
i try to not waste my time there, i can give respect to people i don't know, but if they are a piece of sh-t, just bye; if i'm the p---- -- ----, i'm sorry and keep with my life
oh you'll be surprised... 
I would be, but at the same time I'd prefer not to be
i remember offending an american for offering help and i got dismissed for "manplaning", i'll always remember that one
What does that word even mean?
the above fortunately i think it's mostly just an 'murican problem
They got offended for no reason. Why ask for help in the first place then
yep... 
pay them no mind
Itβs a weak-minded personβs retort when they donβt agree with you
I hate that term as well
yep it is, but people convince themselves that the person next to them cares about certain issues, when in reality they don't, that is how some movements get traction when in reality no one cares... that doesn't mean you have to attack people that don't think like you do... but in most cases people that try to talk for people they don't know just makes the things worse
nah it was actually funny, i'll make it short but it was on an MMO and it was a clan member
they asked for tips on how to play a certain character, after a few minutes of giving them tips, they suddenly threw that card at me and blocked me
i've genuinely still no idea what/how it went that way, because i was copy pasting guides 
maybe the guide itself was offensive for explaining things 
I'm from the old internet era, I gained immunity against words online so I can't understand all of this 
To be completely real with you, people don't actually care about you online most of the time. So it's a waste of time to be offended. It's not like they're trying to spite you or something
i feel ya brother, times were simpler... 
I mean, when used correctly, βmansplainingβ is appropriate in a funny stereotypical way
but half the time itβs abused and used out of context
Thus I hate the term
ikr 
yep, it is the internet, no one cares, but you will know if people try to show themselves online just because they want the "attention"
and that is how people get baited...
Internet empowers a lot of people that would have no power otherwise
Because they would get punched in the face for saying stupid things
almost forgot about bayern psg...
This is true
main character syndrome
sassuga @glad meteor , always bringing quality to this chat
What's this?
I'm learning way too many new words today
And sausages
sasuga-ge pizza
we were talking about π€ π₯
Yeah. Sausage very large. U want to see 
look at this bully
a nihilistic view that everything is about you or happen around you
she dares question the size of our mighty π₯ 
So like narcissism?
time to cut it off and be best girl instead

cut it off and rebuild it stronger
comes with 1 massive laz0r that finally forces you to use an utility aaaaaaaaaaaaand we got helmT
yep, but they don't care about the law, there are narcissist and superior people, but you know they are not that dumb to ignore what they can or can't do
Ok, enough slacking off. When I come back in a day or two I'm bothering everyone here about sp arena. Need to try and push the next reward bracket
I hope y'all don't mind if I ping
sounds like someone who is ethnocentric
Actually I'll just ping anyways and ask for forgiveness

back again
is there any improvements i could make to my rookie arena team of jackal nayu cindy siren helmt
@glad meteor my closest attempt so far, did you try again/get there?
yes, something like that
nayuta helmT cindy anisTT SWHA
if anisTT tanks your CP too harshly put siren for now
Havenβt touched campaign
π«
why ya all not suffering with me 
i miss retro, he used to suffer with me 

I have not played thru the new chapters yet
slackeroni pepperoni, someone is gonna catch up and sniperoni
And I need to go through hard campaign
U missing core dust?
Iβm at 41 hard
that reminds me that we didn't go with ET to the pp festival
Not that it matters. You can just whale more core dust π«
he missing willpower, bring the whip 
and we still have to do the rps pp-measuring contest


sounds like what a whel would say 
how long does it take to make 20 synchro if you cleared all the way to 44-x... 
gonna ask in #questions , someone with too much freetime will surely reply
we saying it for your sake, we motivating you
sometimes the whip, sometimes the carrot and sometimes the π₯

time to make a 2nd account and do it all again
I lost in top 16 two times in a row now
I deserve such shame

that is as far as you can go legally in jp (?
legally?
think about those who can't even get in CA 
the man the legend
if we ever unlock resurrecting someone, he's gotta be one of the first
18 since 3 years ago
@tropic summit help I need new SP arena defense
stanis replcing RH was the first thing I though of
Literally me
the guy in the 4th frame
Thanks RT, it won. Can't say which teams won or how they did, as the game gave me the "Arena Info Updated" screen, skipped the battle and booted me to lobby, but it deffo won. Thx again π
when the server stabilize post your current 3 def and box/blabla link set to public
that's so cursed
Ego costs a lot of gems for whales
Am I really going to be cooked by Sora and Drake 
swipe more 
might wanna put a nayuta in p5 so you can get biscuit to invul p1 and p2
if your p2 dies you're in trouble
change it to
blanc vestiTU biscuit anisTT jackal
this way you've biscuit lock and only take dmg from sora in p2
The rest of the teams are somewhat weaker 
im getting gem spammed by a whale as we speak π
bro likes cores it seems
oml
he has his preferences all right
spent 300 gems just to have C1 for 3 minutes and 58 seconds
time to spend more gems honey
gotta upgrade my def teams again soon
Thanks!
I suppose re-enter isn't a problem when his teams' burst gen moves at a snail speed
hello there, can i replace noise with anis star in a tmoran/noah/thelm/swha comp?
for defense i mean
from left to right
HI OFFICIAL NIKKE SERVER
@frigid tundra in case he hasn't changed his defense, you can use smth like this
when you asked nikke discord for arena defense help and now your rival can't beat you anymore 
what bothers you of that 
change to
- anisTT blanc vestiTU rapunzel laplaceT
- moran helmt swha noah biscuit
- jackal siren scarlet trina drakeT

thank you @glad meteor for making me laugh like an idiot at this bird at 11PM 
That has two HelmTs
skill issue
was messing where to put helmT if i wanted lifesteal or natural, there we go
what you dont have 2 helms?
My second helm isn't nearly as good as my first one
this is PTSD inducing
don't let @keen vapor see it
πββοΈ
I'm back to scrambling for a new def team too π . Lul Rosanna is never gonna get rocks
@glad meteor
normal difficulty on the minigame is a lie btw
on some tracks it clearly isn't normal 
They have their own scales based off the number
So some stages are easier and harder at the same difficulty
For real, even on casual the green and purple swipe things are a pain.
π€
i've gone and f* up, @glad meteor distracted me
the controls don't really help, had to customize them cuz the default one are actually atrocious
(on PC)
is it any easier on mobile
Isnt it ez on pc 
bro its hard
No, ipad ok i think
wait till you try some of the "normal" ones where you've little to no breather 
I tried to change them, but everything I tried I just go "My hands and fingers don't work like that!"
OSU was easier 


normal i cant even fc
Just make the key binds comfortable and get good.
Sincerely, Mobile player
wow. look at this guy @rich quail

real bully, ever since he became pve go0n he became evil 
Asian game devs have complete different sense of difficulty with rhythm games than westerners 
@glad meteor pve go0n and yet doesn't come keep me company in suffering against altruia 
I just g0on in sr museum these days 
pve museum...
0 stars PTSD comes back...
... depression 
Skβ
I'm actually struggling with Hall 2, because I feel like they pumped up the damage requirement for even the lower levels compared to Hall 1
They did
Hall 1 I basically just farted into the 20 stages rewards 
Iβm at 601 breakpoint
Storm bringer too much hurty 
that thing hurts like a truck indeed
Hax @/modernia
makes you want to go back to blanc and apologize
I have nothing to apologise
i aint touching that thing until im synchro 701+ or some shiet
For me I survive just fine but I do barely enough damage to get health bars down
I'm 730 dude and I can't do it 
gosh, the future looks grim 
Okay if I actually put my mind to it maybe, but it feels so bleeeeeh
@tropic summit ainβt touching storm bringer
Hello, good morning! How is everyone doing? I want to thank you all once again for the help with my last question.
If possible, I need help regarding this: how do I defeat teams running Noah + Biscuit?
Iβm specifically struggling against: Scarlet + Noah + Red Hood + Biscuit + Jackal (which is the team Iβm currently facing, and funny enough is my DEF team).
Iβve tried
- Scarlet + Blanc + Red Hood + Centi + Jackal = results are inconsistent (win one, lose one situation), and my opponent currently has a +-120k CP lead over me (most of my teams reach between 588k~625k).
Already used as well: Noah + Biscuit + SBS + Helm (T s2) + Jackal, but they lost
And no, unfortunately I don't have S. Anis 
against scarlet noah rh biscuit jackal, you use
noah biscuit vestiTU helmT noise
Anis squad look giga generic slop , 
which one 
All of them 
not released 
currently CN is still with rosanna release and probably cinderella is the next unit in a few days, or moran, one of the two
ah it's china server, who's the B3s available?
How they skip to Cinderella already 
I'm at ~19% deficit here
Quantum on Snow to push the team to ~1.6RL to avoid Siren Stun
I think this may have a chance if it was on defense 
is bisc day 1 unit
noah biscuit SBS helmT rumani
tencent β’
or just show your box it makes it easier
k
What kuwon said 
how are they slop if they're broken af 
my whel can't even beat my first anisTT squad
and he's f*ing 20+ synchro ahead
Rail always asking people to show him their box 
I mean the kpop group

what no. 
No
look at those cute fake nekomimi 

Go back to endfield
Over here in Finland the word for box is also slang for a womans... 
i quit it already 
tomorrow it's NTE time
Wdf
time to lewd dragons there instead
Nt-
she even has the horns to make it easier to pull her ||during her banner||

Is she even launch char







