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@tropic summit Any time you feel like it I would a talk about breaching this wall
letting helm burst and forcing her to be the indom priority would reduce drastically the threat of that team
I tried a comp I saw in your older post with Moran, Maid Anchor, tHelm, trina and t PRivaty
that team already bursts first and blows up my teams
run this and record
noah tempering
noise vigor
cindy tempering
swha tempering
biscuit vigor
team assumed not in deficit
although if your cindy is heavy on ele might kill helmT then you've problemo
slow lib or slow cindy here is probably safer
run this so you remove the variable altogether
blanc vigor
lib tempering
crown any
rapunzel vigor
biscuit vigor
still need to be not in deficit
@tropic summit this is the CA teams. so not sure Label whether can be replaced as i didn't invest much into her.
or Ada can be replaced if needed with other Nikkes. (Ada Core +2 only)
is this in the deficit zone ? (Noise not built)
Ok I built Noise and reduced deficit to 12% and I won this this comp easily
ah perfect, sorry for late reply was in call 
glad to know it worked 
People like to make annoying teams
as for investing noise, not a bad choice, you'll need her for both atk and defense and is also used in CA
that team logic relies on label to deny 2RL-2.5RL elec pressure (mostly scarlet), while ada enables lifesteal on your main indom
so both units are actually important to retain the main logic
if/since you can't use them, translate that team instead in a typical 3 B3s indom
I have a question regarding Noise
@tropic summit Plz rate my CA build
T2 is wild 
noah as battery? RH as main B3 
I lost last CA because Moran Noah instead of Moran Nero 
aaah come ooooon xD
ye but are you sure you don't wanna actually use noah at all here?
noah archetypes have one of the highest win ratios
I dont see anywhere to fit her
nero moran archetype win ratio went lower
swha indom is also kinda mitigated by a lot of typical CA comps
i think you should reconsider T2, rest look ok
perhaps reconsidered nero moran, but it's not a weak team per se
Maybe you want to introduce me with SG Noah 
ironically you could, anti nuke to protect SGs may work against some archetypes
It's hard to abandon Nayuta RH ngl
ye that's a strong one
shoot
@tropic summit oh right, so I was wondering what kind of teams is Noise usually used in? in case I use her with Noah, how much lower CS do I need for Noise to be useful? I mean with Taunts? Is it bad to have such low CS with Noise to begin with?
rest of the teams look pretty solid btw
pick any working indom that doesn't need ada/label and you're set
assuming you want noise taunt priority, and that's for most use cases, noah should be at least 4%CS faster than noise
assuming you want noah taunt priority, this is mostly when you want split tanking, you want noise 4%CS faster than noah
getting noise taunt priority has more benefit than noah taunt priority, so just go with that
- it will allow you to have a siren resistant noah
- it will allow you to use linked noise
- you can run noise p5 to taunt in p5 and retain noah in p1 to split tank
Do I keep using XSoline there if I slot Noah?
Oh, I see? What about Siren?
soline is already peculiar in SG team, because scar-soline-rapunzel has a very stable win ratio
nvm, I read your reply
nayuta is generally slotted in 2RL nayuta or SG team or slow cindy variant
We have that kind of comp?
if you running 2RL nayuta, 2RL indom, SG team and nero moran... it really gets tricky to stick a noah somewhere
you could run the stall scar perhaps
although scar-soda and scar-soline-rapuzel generally fare better and you'd want noise jackal linked
more of a copium team than anything
this looks good?
Yeah, seems like I need to rework my CA comp, thanks!
you don't have any B3 open for triple B3 instead of rapunzel? blanc would prefer being p4 to avoid vesti
teams are interesting though, the only thing i could nitpick is not abusing noah properly
see if you can fit a noah archetype and you're set
ehhh of all B3 you had to pick scarlet 
this part is fine, you need a flex B3 that does not steal link
in that slot generally you can put
- ada
- xmaiden
- any non feeding B3 that can be indommable in case p2 and p5 are killed
run this team in shooting range and check vestiTU and laplace have the buff "jumping jackal"
jackal vestiTU ada blanc laplaceT
okie locked
if they do, then check vestiTU and laplaceT HP in shooting range, laplaceT must've higher HP than vestiTU
that way you confirm you'll have a vestiTU indom with ada as backup B3 if they get rosanna'ed
i will used Ada
lap have highter hp
oke you're set then
how to win against this?
updated. any suggestions on Cubes?
looks decent
noise vigor
noah tempering
siren tempering/any
lib any
centi quantum
jackal quantum
vestiTU tempering
ada any
blanc vigor
laplaceT quantum
moran tempering
bay tempering
biscuit vigor
swha tempering/any
xmaiden any
nayuta any
helmt tempering/any
RH any
emilia quantum
rumani quantum
bsod any
drake any
poli any
noir any
Rosanna any
with SWHA you can be 91-97%
remove cube from SWHA and get yourself a 2RL lib instead
RH pierce will also make up for 3%-ish so you'll be fine
Should I put Tempering on Rapunzel?
you can, being p1 she should drop low enough within 2RL
although with soline you could just run any cube, you want her to drop low in HP
resil/bastion can also work here for all it matters
VesT should be fine yeah?
you mean against a vestiTU team?
absolute can bypass soline's HP threshold recovery
regular vesti probably not
as for your own vestiTU indom yes give her tempering
Ah yes I need to consider to build Absolute comp 
meh it's a CA specific comp and sort of usable in pve but i personally wouldn't
is privaty treasure available?
yes, also mlb
Thanks!
ok could run some funny thing then 
you're on the left, teams assumed not in deficit
record if you can 
I'll try this and record it next time. Thank you 
I won my 2nd attempt to him with the team I made earlier, but its a clutch and not a guarantee so I only got lucky 
evil

Hello everybody. I'd like to hear your thoughts on a slight change I'm considering to one of my 3 teams.
The team right now stands as: Noise / Alice / Red Hood / Noir / Centi
It is the weakest team out of my 3. But I've been working on Helm, and even though she is not Treasure yet, her skills are 7/6/8 (CP 36k), and I'm considering swapping her for Noir over there (7/6/7 - CP 35k) because I know her skills makes it harder for Noise to heal the group (max ammo).
Is that a wise choice? Or should I still keep Noir there?

Is your alice the cp carry?
Cuz otherwise
Noise helmt centi rh noir
Seems better to me
For that team, yes
Centi ahead of rh so she bursts instead of rh
Rh b2 is really horrid
Then replace noir yesh
So would you still keep the new team comp as Noise / Helm (not treasure yet) / Centi / Red Hood / Noir?
Then I'll confirm and change it here.
No treasure? Nah shes bad then
Not yet, no
I already have Helm at 30 bond status, but no SR Rocket doll yet
I see I see
So, in the end, I should keep Noir instead of Helm for the time being, until I get the Treasure, right?
I'll just swap Centi
Yea and by that time u prob have better units too
Cuz the rh is pretty wasted here
U usually run her for her insane b1 caster buff
And alice isnt really good either
Centi is just a battery she makes the team faster which is important
That's why this is the "meh" team. The other 2 are ok-ish, I guess. Have been holding my own in 4th place on SP Arena for a few weeks now. But I'm investing in better meta characters daily. Hopefully this third team can be reviewed soon too.
But I appreciate your time analyzing it for me. Thank you, friend.
Np hope u get that SR doll soon
how bad is this 

@tropic summit 
Emma was also one of the ones I voted for. Fabulous character.
Yoo I voted for that too 🍌 
We people of culture


Anyone on Global? Was doing my Rookie fights for the day and game server started lagging and now got stuck in disconnected loop
I had some trouble earlier, like 2 hours ago. Got disconnected twice. Global.
Who was the lucky Nikke?
Okay nvm, it was my internet. Damn I hate the garbage internet provider we have.
@tropic summit I THINK SANITY IS OVERRATED
I can share a better and more stable connection from my phone than our actual modem smh
@versed mesa 
YOU WILL NEVER CATCH ME ALIVE
Are you drunk? What does that have to do with anything 

Xmaid
I had to search Google to understand which maid you were referring to, and it said Privaty: Unkind Maid.
That is indeed a great characters. Have no idea why her nickname is X, though.
It's Maiden from the winter event previous Christmas. She is shortened to xMaiden for X-mas
Right, that makes sense now. Thanks for explaining.
sassuga 
looks decent, no RH/label/liter for T1? nayuta likes atk% buff B1s
if label you'll also prevent wiperoni from 2RL scar against that team
he gone brickin', you taught him well @keen vapor
Anyone can recommend the best cubes for this lineup? Also if I need to swap some units around, I’m up for discussion
decent teams, bit weird T4 but the rest checks out, beware of ensuring noise is linked in T3
test that in shooting range





Ensure noise? Also what do I need to change for t4
Also hi rail!
ye run that noise team in shooting range and check she has "jumping jackal" buff
Oh!
the other linked unit should be scarlet, but that should be by default as the only attacker in there
don't need to change anything just a bit weird, may work
I have zero investment in Label - is she usable in pvp that way?
she counters fast elec nukers, for the most part scarlet, if you don't have label RH or liter also serve the same purpose
just that you won't get anti elec
having nayuta deal lethal to iron codes and severe dmg to all other codes already good enough
just ensure your B1 is an atk% buffer
Dont need RH for T1
T2 standard
T3 standard
Bay P1 just ask for her burst do nothing, then SWHA and Emi in the same team is expesive for just a Battery
T5 is well slow Cindy
just finished the side story
a man of culture 
I'm not the biggest fan of T5 positioning
mihara should be p1 or p2 indeed 
MIHARA SHOUL BE IN (BED)
Mihara should be in bed with me
ME TOO
Should move Mihara from t5 to t1? And where could I put RH in any of the teams? @tropic summit
Mihara P2
i'd actually keep RH in T1, it's meant for 2 burst cycles
it's a team that can still check out
You know what, you can have her, I prefer Red Hood anyway 
ultimately CA is all about RNG so either way works anyhow
Who would I replace for Mihara in t2
Oh
NO I'M IN UR BED
Oops
@spark granite you can run vestiTU team as high risk high reward
this would be the positioning

That's OK, I'll be at Angel's Hip anyway
So Mihara in t1 but p2?
as for slow cindy with mihara variant this would be the positoning, it's mostly to fk with vestiTU
Kk
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KNOW ONLY @tropic summit
Nah I'd trace
Nah I’d Pretty
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Ok I fixed the last 2 teams, and if the first 3 are fine, any cube recommendations? I still have 1 slot of tempering and would quantum cube be needed for any of the 5 teams?
moran tempering
noah tempering
lib tempering/any
helmt tempering/any
RH tempering/any
nayuta any
noir any
bsoda any
DrakeT any
rosa any
noise vigor
trina tempering/vigor/quantum
scarlet tempering/any
xmaiden quantum/any
jackal quantum
vestiTU tempering/adjutant/any
rapunzel vigor
swha any
bay tempering/any
emilia any/adjutant/quantum
blanc vigor
mihara any just no vigor or tempering
cindy any
biscuit vigor/any
rumani adjutant/any
Again, Rheax thank you for this list. I cannot be more grateful for your contribution.
Now I see why @unique mountain said “nah I’d Trace”

Guys i need help any way to counter him?
it will grow back
USE THEIR TEAM 3 TO KEEL THEIR TEAM 1
well but with noah
and helm burst insted
OPEN WALLET
50ish synchro diffed
I can beat his second tema with moran noah but the others are the problem he just seitch all his teams
you need 1 indom team or nayuta team and one noah-biscuit archetype team
the problem is matching the deficit, cuz you're 50 synchro behind
you can also run stun against T1 or T3, as both noah and blanc are running non siren resistant teams
T1 in particular is running lib as main B3, which gives you 1RL further to pad
show CP with these
Ive been beating him with indom teams but with cindy
now those teams dont work anymore
Ok
enemy teams aren't difficult, you just gotta play CP tetris to meet the requirement

T2 almost there, need 2062k+
T1 on the other hand is downright screwed
try posting your box/blabla link public, maybe we can run some cope teams
oh invested rosanna, we could use this 
can you run this team in shooting range and tell me who gets jumping jackal buff?
hello bois. i figured id visit my 2nd home
afterward show CP with
Ofc drake and bunny soda
and CP?
might aswell run full fledged SG team, you've all the core units of that team well invested
sacc noir to vestiTU, kill noah, procc ros and nayuta, wipe p1 and p2
need to know CP then you're good to go
221k the drake one
T2 cp should be fixed as we can slot helmt and swha + moran together
need 2207k, if you're 2210k you're in range
is your viper stage 3 or stage 2 treasure?
ok can't use, well maybe you'll be fine either way, as long as noah dies before her 2nd 2RL shot, they might no longer be 2RL
run it and yolo
Ok illl try it
record if you can 
Im sorry my phone was dying and i couldn't record it stopped recording due to that
But man you cooked

as long as T1 worked i can guess what happened at least 
you killed both noah and rapunzel before they could burst probably
Snow and helm die then just survived noah moran and cindy
ye T2 was pretty safe
Kinda but rapu survived
oh they actually bursted and you still killed? 
But she didnt have time to cast its skill

She was the last one to die , he will attack in the night so if he still use the same def i will record it and show it to u
ofc if the teams keep working
Thanks bro
I think I'm gonna just use my SP defense teams for CA this time around and make the last 2 teams whatever I can scrounge up from the units not in those main teams 

wut teams are you running this CA
Nothing


@tropic summit
Jackal CS: ~7%
VestiTU CS: ~9%
XMaiden CS: ~8%
Blanc CS: -
Ada CS: ~9%
Am I able to run this as 2.5RL?
or is it still too slow?
put it here https://nikke.top/ against a natural 2RL team
see if your B2 goes off before enemy B3 goes off
I was right
nope...
guess I'll run Centi then
time traveller 
I can't give you any ship boosts today @tropic summit lol
nothing available. I'll do tomorrow earlier
or your day is awesome as expected! sasuga rail
I have a good nose
someone give me a cheeky rookie def to confuse people
cheeky not silly 
i call that, the shrodinger indom
alternating between these 2 can also throw off some peeps
there's also this
or this
cheers, will give it a shot
there are 2 people that refresh their opps everyday just to attack me with all their atks lol

But Bready has them cheeks tho 

change things up and get more creative
change archetypes, speeds, gimmicks
yeah I know, I thought I was being creative, but apparently not xD

Nayuta/Trina/HelmT/RH/LaplaceT
Jackal/VestiTU/XMaiden/Blanc/Ada
MoranT/SWHA/Label/Noah/Biscuit
these were the ones that I used
I was ready for retaliatory snipe from rival after I countered his before end of last season but he did not. I think he is waiting for the 761, so I might be at deficit.
not too bad, now make a natural 2RL indom, a rosanna team and a 2.5RL moran/cindy
@arctic jewel here's a few bases you can work with
try to slot siren in T2 or T3, you can drop in speed a bit T2, but keep it at least 2.5RL
for T3 try to aim for natural 2RL or 91% to 2RL
rosanna must be linked
cool, I made very similar teams
Scarlet/Trina(Quantum)/Rosanna/Anis/Jackal
Moran/Cindy/Biscuit/SWHA/Noah
Rumani(Tempering)/VestiTU/HelmT/Blanc/Centi
are these bad?
you need to B2 with noah so check your positioning
oops
also unprotected solo B1 in T3 is a bit off
run 2 B1s if you're not running resistant or protected chains
Noah/Cindy/Biscuit/SWHA/Moran
Rumani/VestiTU/Label/Blanc/Helm
???
looks decent so far although siren weak in T1
you want noah p2 or p5 or p4 there
then I'm not sure... I can't use Noise here...
here's more ideas
linked noise teams are also an option
combos well with bay and DPS oriented B3s
here's another
noise-noah variant
p4 remains flexable
think I've seen this one before
the noise linked one is a CA team
but works in SP arena too
noise scar xmaiden noah jackal is also a CA and SP arena team
yeah, this team was one of the first teams that you suggested a long time ago
@tropic summit is SG team with Nayuta and Rosanna viable in SP Arena?
too easy to cheese against
moran, nayuta, biscuit locked teams all cheese SG
I'm gonna go with this
@tropic summit I honestly just got impatient, wanted to do dailies, I'll give another go at teambuilding
Since tempering is used on a lot of units, Is tempering 11 fine or needs to be at least 13?
@tropic summit
are there any viable Rosanna teams that doesn't use Jackal in SP Arena?

15

Indeed it is
😭
Its a must cube you will always use for pvp
how many Nikkes are able to hold Tempering at lvl 15?
Cute bird!

that's... pretty good... but I think I'll upgrade it to lvl 11, then focus on other cubes that are more useful in PvE
maybe even upgrade Vigor further
but not too much though...
upgrading Cubes is very annoying in general
Just a bit
I went all out for tempurs 15 and bricked the rest of the cubes, quatum is at 13
Rest lv7
Boss def. Got beat by this whale gapping me
lvl 13 Quantum 👀
Yea
I mean, it does give you higher stats and therefore slightly better survivability, but
it's probably great
Can anyone help me beat this guy
Defense is still working as intended
@umbral crown @swift mango @tropic summit
@rich quail
@coarse lake
I've done it guys

I thought you would wait for new chaps
Comgrats
410k jims

seems like you're not too far behind me either still, forgot the old gap, but rn you're only 23 sync behind
somehow didn't get perma bricked, grats


Union raid is up so...
Finally echo.can do.the thing
5m
C10 sync 621 
I did the thing
Echo why arent you c1

you better show up in the next ca
They're 671 
Ok, time to be MA for once
You have invested Emilia and Vesti right
I have vesti 15cs and emi 20 cs, but emi doesnt have doll 15. Vesti does
But their cp is kinda low
And Label?
No label
I’m doing 7 on quantum and vigor. 15 on tempering and then I’m done
Back to pve cubes
Right, me neither 


Doppel wtf are you cooking
Dont use that team
I try to avoid the teams that obviously rely on juicy CS lines ik I don't have
Just use my setup
I'm listening 
pascal? treasure centi?
I'm not sure wether I want Siren or not for last team
More invested than mine
Yeah I had no room this CA
My bay is not invested yet
doesn't treasure poli feed the enemy gen too?
You only need basic overload on her and doll SR 5 for her power to be decent and that's it
Confirm combat power of each team btw 
Well i dont even have gear company for her🥀
I can doll 15, but 1* bay wont let me get her fav
Is fine, no treasure needed (does nothing)
Oh more cooking
where's rail when you want to slack
i know that jackal moran and noah are good for pvp and thats it
quite literally nothing else
Where's Moran treasure 
im working on it okay
i just got her like a week ago
shes at like friendship 13
@keen vapor this not look good
It'll work
2 other teams is kinda match
Is fine, within range
Good lord
what are this gaps

Slowly but surely 
i like her a lot and she will most likely replace siren in my teams
Didnt make it 
what happened
this triggers me
Sw got stun, first team dead before indom blanc
2rl is only possible if everyone is using quantum
It’s 2rl for me with 21 cs lib and 11+ cs on everyone else
No quantums
whats rl?
But you said CP was matching
You can take it as seconds but is the interval for each time a rocket launcher shoots
No i mean first team his scar got indom then clear my team
Still burst
ah okok
That's not before Indom....
Bay why your cover doesn't works for once 
right, dayum
I need budget comps 
had a really dark realization earlier with the side story but prob can't share it here
would keep kids awake at night and probably too dark to share

can i get some help tho? TwT
Do u have emi? Just sub rh with her there if u do
oh you right, you didn't use emi 
let me assemble the teams and see who's left
need to check vesti team speed
she only has 8% cs
is nikke top not working?
nvm I'm in
It was only working for me on Google chrome 
Add an opponent team against it, it helps give burst gen, it’s not realistic there
yea that didn't change anything
Snow/Blanc/Ada with Vigor/Centi/Jackal
Moran/Noah/Cinderella/Helm/Drake/
Rapunzel/Grave/Privaty/Siren/Noir
ik
And press the link icon on jackal and link with vesti and lap
okok
Jackal burst should be at 2 rl or slightly slower
doesn't change much
ofc I'm using the worst case scenario vs RL/SR only
ignore the fact I'd win cus noah
lemme check my lines
gotcha, surprised on no rh tbh
1 black cs line on laplace, nothing else
Good enough, and for jackal?
4.92% line only
I almost put her on last team.... But Privaty has more power and a treasure in progress
beautiful doggo
Try it on the site and see what the speed is now
Se-
her treasure just got given to her today, so no progress
unchanged
Should be fine tbh unless against absolute or some super fast nayuta team 
Slower indom helps win against faster indom too
Slowly but surely 
as soon as im able to do the solo raid museum stuff privaty helm and moran are going to max
So that can play out in your favor
fair
Just the possibility of blanc dying if they have super high ele on vesti
Ye gl 
not waiting for new chapters?

new chapters about to drop in 2 weeks 
Wow
amazing
our little boy has grown up
now Nikke will eos after 3.5 anni
I'm tired boss
is dia2-3 as f2p a good stoppin point guys
Stopping? Ofc no, Challenger 4 is
i cant since all the ppl above me are 20+ ahead
@keen vapor Hopefully you’ll be much more competitive in sp.a and challenge for ca
In before it enlarged to top 10 after season 30. 
maybe he would brick
you got this
but hey, wish you get to CA next season and got champ.
Not without a better def 
these are the nikkes I didn't use by burst 
The opening your boxes 2 weeks before new chapter was meaningless and stupid move then. 
I did it for my union
I don't even see jackal. 
And a happiness boost ig
Anyway, go grind campaign and clear to the queen at least.
cus she's used
I see
i dont even have crown at sync 400 🙁
you won't need her for pvp
You don't need crown in Arena. Just have to grind campaign hard.
er
i mean if i dont have crown then i cant grind hard as fast as those who has her 🙁
oh wait I see that you are at diamond and everyone there 20 level above you. So just reroll if you don't have boxes saved and wanted to be competitive in arena.
in short u are bricked, 
yeah i see
Some people grind high deficit campaign without crown just fine now. But would need Nayuta and maid duo at high CP.
do you have tmoran?
wait i do have nayuta and maid duo at high cp and tmoran
i literally have everythin except crown
there you go
but your level is still bricked,
Can someone help me to make a team 😓
yeah 
@tropic summit
@umbral crown

Should I send screenshot of my nikkes first?
always send your roster + current teams you're using + why they're not working anymore
it also helps if you bother trying to learn smth about pvp instead of shoving your 150 nikkes list and telling people "build me something" 

Well tbh I only play rookie arena + sp. I didn't even bother touching cp for months. But I will this time.
I barely notice even in the game
Should I use Anis stead of Centi in P2 for the Nayuta nuke team because my Centi is bricked?
Ye shouldn’t be much different
Ok thanks 👍
Guys any advice to improve my teams last season i ended in 64th and my first team (the one with Laplace always lost ) what should i replace 
That’s normal, scarlet isn’t very strong right now. Move rapu to p2 for better chance at stun. Use a better b3 than sanis, she’s not very strong for ca, u can steal lib or swha from other team
Also might wanna max out that scarlet doll considering u in older bracket 
maybe he isn't in older brackets 
He has emi 
I thought you mean old as in Makima old. Which he could be, 
everyone with emi old to me
Not sure if anyone noticed but today marks the 1st Anniversary of the Champion Arena

is buildin chars for pvp better than buildin for solo raid guys
Up to you
hmmm kinda, cuz for pvp once you get the meta char built you will always use them but for SR you kinda need to build the new unit
for every SR
ohhh okay i get it
but at the end depends your main focus if pvp or pve
very different game mode and units. Pvp gives you more gems in general, but game is more focused on SR/UR as end game content
Champion Arena has no rewards, auto gameplay and depends on which bracket u’re in
SP arena is generally pretty worth it, theres much less meta units needed to be built
Though almost all of them are only used in pvp, there are a few exceptions mainly dps and moran
Sr investment is more broadly usable in pve if it means getting dps units ol lines
I would still recommend to build campaign units 
get that 12/12 VestiTU for both PvE and pvP
guess ill start buildin for pvp hehe
Ya its mostly build campaign team -> overload some pvp cores
Dont really need tons of explicit pvp invest
12/12 black lines Vesti 
i could not get my black atk with 46 rocks
just got blue crit rate
she at 11/12
sadge
Me waiting for neo neon to show up with passive immunity to true damage:
the unbricking arc 
hell you can bring tempering to 15
the first stopping point is 7, a good middle ground is 11
I will be tempering 15
blabla link set to public or roster from in-game ordered by strength both work
No reason to not max a cube apart from budget but still just better to have 1 15 rest 7
but what about....
Id go 13
Cuz thats all the slots iirc
all slots are 15

Why is the game hiding things from me
11 is 8
its fine if i just do the blbla? i cant send images here its says too much
Like its valid, u pivoted from max quant to adjutant since quant lowering in necessity, makes sense
kinda like that but at the end im not using all adjuntant slots for pvp for now
but i will make it 11 or maybe i go quatum 15 and call it a day
ye it's fine, blablalink set to public
is new character good for pvp or is she junk?
skip, wishlist if you like her design
@tropic summit https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/home?uid=MjkwODAtNjQ1NjA1ODQ5NTgwODkwMzQ1Mw%3D%3D&openid=MjkwODAtNjQ1NjA1ODQ5NTgwODkwMzQ1Mw%3D%3D'
Arguably worst unit released this past entire year
bay's treasured ye?
Probably longer
i have
no for pvp so you can wishlist later
after anni gonna go crazy and spend some jims in standar to buy a moran copy
SP arena
- moran bay swha laplaceT emilia
- jackal siren privT helmT noah
- blanc rumani midhara biscuit cindy
Notes
- buildup / increase CP on vestiTU and SWHA (pvp core units)
- build up rosanna on the medium term
- increase CP on emilia (get her 4 CS% lines ideally)
- increase CP on utilities (trina, biscuit, rumani)
thanks ^^ will take notes
can use this same same for attack and defense?
@tropic summit '
i'm going for something unusual this time
kinda same here, 5 new teams

attack teams are made on the spot based on what you facing, if you don't know what you doing then ye, use for both
oh lucky you, you can still sleep
meanwhile i'm about to enter my shift 
alarm will wake me up in 4h
oof
what keeps us going 
i'm doing it for my 2 big dreams
Rail he change its def 

best cube to do after resi and bastion 15? (my quantum is 8)
tempering (6 atm)?
wait my label lb0 if I put p3 gonna misindom
time to put p4 
imagine using label p3, must be an idiot
some guy in my bracket for whatever reason copying teams of other guy that I'm constantly fighting with
I'll try the team now cause waiting for the next CA is too long @swift mango 

take off everything
No, i want her to burst
Tempering is way too low for PvP, upgrade it to lvl 15
1 free win for opponents

damn can she survive 
Idk 
I just put a random team
Anyone who loses to this team will be a joke
maybe I should try nayuta xdiesel team for this CA 
hey thanks for the builds, t1 and t2 have been doing well but t3 doesnt do well even against scarlet teams. Would replacing liberalio with Vestac make a significant difference? Also got my privaty treasured so could add her in
In terms of burst gauge generation do we have data for the new unit Snow Crane?
should be same as any SR, 2,8% per shot. she doesn't have additional hit mechanics or extra burst gen bonus
Sora but worst burst gen for pvp
defender tho
best not to pull .5 next banner
Hiya, could I ask if I should change anything on my CA teams? I basically know I will lose since my pvp is kinda scuffed but I have some units more built than I did before so I was wondering if there were any changes I could do to my teams or maybe make new ones? this is what I ran last time I got into CA(again these teams are scuffed I just want to make teams to at least set up something) out of these teams the units that aren't built that I used are Xmaiden, Viper(no treasure) base Anis, Rossana, Bsoda and rapunzel. The units I have built now that I didnt before or at least didnt use are Siren, Ada, Tpriv, Ein and TUeunhwa. Sorry for the long as message
the main problem I think I had at least(Besides obvious actual lack of teams due to not having a lot of pvp units built) was that by using unbuilt units I got into CP problems or at least it seemed that way in the replays when I watched my matches last time
so I was thinking that maybe sacrificing some performance for pure cp so as to not scuff the teams would be fine(?), again i'm not sure about this so it's just a thought
I do not know 

Grah, system error while editing teams, so all shuffling reset. Fine, i'll just go with this :p
each team has got it own counters, T3 main issue is being 3RL over 2RL, change its speed and you'll be able to win against 2RL scarlet
being 3RL your noah won't be in time for 2RL scarlet
attack teams are made on the spot based on what you facing, so feel free to change them up as you wish to
vestiTU and lib have similar burst gens, you could run attached team to promote it to 2RL and retain similar logic (rumani, vestiTU and noah are assumed quantum lvl 7, vestiTU is assumed 5%+CS)
Privaty is hard to slot due to expensive burst gen cost to make up for her lacking on that front, mostly a situational unit
Oops, meant to have bay there, thanks 😄
that's how it should be, always change def when they get broken 
But yeah, i'd be going back and forth, change this and that, and all i'm really after is the "guesw wrong" thing, so, meh and let 'er run 😄
It is always a good sign when the first "wtf?" moment comes on the third team from this chat 
a sacc scarlet team in CA, guy is a believer 
Indeed
woah.. update to nikke deck in the middle of me using it
all my images disappeared and when i loaded i got this surprise
Best team defence against Noah, Label, Snow White HA, Helm, Cindrella?
Ah my quantum is probably at 5 but rumani seems like a good invest, thanks!
@tropic summit
T1: Scarlet/Trina/Helm/Mana/Label
T2: Noah/Rapu/Liberalio/Laplace/Rumani
T3: Noir/Nayuta/Bunny Soda/Drake/Rosanna
T4: Jackal/VestiTU/Blanc/Centi/Ada
T5: Bay/Cindy/Biscuit/SWHA/Moran
I wanted to replace Centi with XMaiden in T4, but it looks like my overall CS is a bit too low atm, so I can't use her. Do you have any recommendations how to improve my Scarlet team? I feel like it's too situational. I'd rather not use Soda since she's currently a bit too weak... I think...
otherwise I'm just gonna run these teams again, they got me to Top 8 last time
I kinda want to test Rapu, but I don't know who I should use in T2 instead?
Put noise
Rapunzel doesn’t work well with lib because lib burst is delayed so the stun won’t help
I've been trying to cook this hour, how about these:
T1: Rapunzel/Scarlet/Trina/HelmT/Label (I wanted to use XSoline, but she's a bit too weak atm)
T2: Noise/Noah/Liberalio/Anis/LaplaceT
or should I change Rapunzel to p2 and Scarlet to p1?
actually no... Siren
nvm
Ur scarlet has too much ammo?
Anyway it seems better
hmmm?
Rapunzel has a good chance to stun and if she dies there’s a backup b1
If scarlet has more than 32 ammo then she gets stunned by siren, if less she is siren immune even in p1
oh crap... 60.71% + 52.50%
Go with that new lineup above then it’s solid, team 5 character positioning seems weird but should be alright
This one
Actually I wouldn’t do cindy p2
just to be EXTRA safe
Put cindy in p5 make swha burst
T2: Noise/Noah/Liberalio/Anis/LaplaceT
Noise has 11.82% CS
Noah has 9.55% CS
how will the taunt priority go?
mmmm, why?
How much cs on lib anis Laplace noise?
let me check
Ur feeding them more energy with cindy p2 to make them burst faster
@arctic jewel sanity is?
And swha is the better dps anyway, that team doesn’t need insta nuke
Anyone know what I can do to get my Bay better suited for CA?
Do I shoot for cs and filler?
Or does she need atk?
@oak hatch
Liberalio: 0% CS (rip...)
Anis: 7.78% CS
Laplace: 14.98% CS
Go for more cs other stats don’t really matter but I think def could help a tiny bit
Okay I was wondering if def helps her with the group damage soak
I maxed out tempering and hopefully that helps
I do have Rumani available, in case I need to switch Anis
Ok nvm u can’t b2 before siren then, u need at least 15 cs on noah to make siren not hit her
are you kidding me? ugh...
Maybe u can roll for that before ca starts 
0 crystals
But u should aim for more cs on these characters anyway
well... that's something you don't need to tell me xD
Which teams do u see with siren?
I did use Rapunzel on that Noah before, I hope I can get away with it this time too
Then it should be fine, that one cindy team that uses siren loses to this anyway because anis burst > lib burst and wipe them
I’d still run with it and most of the time they don’t use siren in p1-2 so it’s all good
yeah, so I was on the right track, using Anis is more beneficial than using Rumani
alright, thank you! I'm gonna change my CA teams then
np gl
Wait, why?
if my Noah gets stunned by Siren, I can burst with Anis
Oh, gotcha
@whole ocean mind sharing your vesti's stats?
I don't have blablalink connected yet
Can you tell me how please
sick thanks
I want my crit rate but I already spent 11 rocks for more attack on Nero
huge vesti
@oak hatch wait, what would the positioning for T5 be like? Moran/Bay/SWHA/Biscuit/Cindy?
Here is the Abso team I am running
Biscuit in p3 she can die but swha shouldn’t
U can put bay in p1 if u worried about siren
Moran/Bay/Biscuit/SWHA/Cindy?
But Moran should help more in p1 in more cases since she can soak up more damage
I won a mirror match before cuz they put vesti in p3 while I had mine in p4 
oh, and what do you think about the positioning in T3: Noir/Nayuta/Bunny Soda/Drake/Rosanna?
So I should expose Rosanna?
(I want Noir to be taken out)
And put VestiT in P4?
I never ran absolute with rosa before so I can’t say for sure but probably better for rosa to die than vesti dead
how do I go up against this in rookie arena?
U also in emi bracket right?
But if Vesti dies I can use Rosanna nuke, and I am confident I can kill them first to get the nuke out
I feel that team never works unless vesti has juicy cs lines
Yeah it’s unlikely they have more cs than u, then it should be fine like that

rosanna lol
Nero is there for them to take more damage aswell
oh I forgot about her
Yes, I have the strongest Emi in my bracket
But only core 2 because I was saving for summer units I remember
Then yeah rosa can be exposed to both emi and vesti so Rosanna makes sense in p4
@oak hatch
I have Rosanna in p4, I still don’t see the benefit of it in p5 but that’s just me 
hmm? 🙂
Here are my teams, I hope I lose
Oh wait they put me on the defender side for the 3rd time in a row

I don't think I'm gonna make it
Apart from one player having extremely wonky teams, the others atleast on a quick glance have perfect match up order to counter my teams that might have had a chance 
Should have just kept my old teams and shuffled them around 
back to being lowest cp 
I'm the highest in mine, but that doesn't mean shit 
sometimes it does, invest could win you some matches, but depends how good is your good and how bad is their low
The Mana replacing Cindy is my best idea ever as I can finally beat Vesti Noah and the same team but with Cindy because it's slower
I haven't shuffled my team for 1+2 seasons.
the universe: who the fu-
Yooooo! One of my Union members got into CA too!
Going through the groups and saw his name 
i didnt even look
I tend to check what my SP opponents get put against them.
Idk anyone of them

Dang I had to beat Yrotchiv in 64
Funny how I spent 1 minutes to edit 2 of my 5 teams then 24 minutes to meme on here.

that's good
Champion 
one day in some universe
2 season ago I would be champ if I didn't lose to Moran with 4% hp left. My lapT stronger now but I won't meet that same line up again.
I've been in every CA season since it started, gotten through advance only twice 
@swift mango do u know what’s the reasoning behind people running Cindy with lib? I seen some champions playing it and now this season my bracket running it too
left is 3.5rl libby, bypass Noah 2rl. If libby died, Cindy can still burst and half bypass Noah.
Right is 2.5rl pretty bad but I guess they could do whatever they want.
I see, thx
left is copy able I guess, lose to Siren though
Now catch up with FAH, you can do it. 
Not possible, he whale harder and got like 1k+ syncho
You aren't fighting him
I only wanna have fun 
i underestimated besti's range
Cindy still get dmged
"' "' gonna farm newbie bracket and let you in the dust then. 
New CA, let's see if my new addition of LapT pays off 
Ok go for it, i believe in you 
I'm not '" '", you guys already left me in the dust, I haven't won once since 6th season. 
Yeah but Rosa is safe.
Oh you mean that other 2nd place guy, i forgot about them
Still lose cause noah block everything 
Yeah this team is 1.5 rl if Helm has high CS. And your team is only 2.5rl. Rosa wouldn't even hit before Noah.
Can Proof of Violation be cleansed?
yeah i purposely fight against super fast team to see whether that team works or not
If only there was one more ninja, i could make everything go to p5
@swift mango @tropic summit
#TheSecretCook
2.5rl across 4 teams 
what the helly


All teams could be 2.5 if i change siren for a RL
She's weak
i put wrong position
guess they could workin this meta
noah biscuit helmt siren swha
wow, now that's decently wild 
bit weird T1, T2, T5.. but it's CA, anything may work 
the only tip i can give you for CA is to run high win ratio teams, because CA is all about that
else you need to look at all the various CA typical teams and arrange 5 teams that have a decent odd of happening to be their counter, it's all about win ratio
Make me a secret team next ca
gotta pray harder this time
well
Support dies faster than defender
does dying too fast even help?
@tropic summit I ended up with this:
T1: Jackal/VestiTU/Blanc/Centi/Ada
T2: Rapunzel/Scarlet/Trina/Helm/Label
T3: Noise/Noah/Liberalio/Anis/Laplace
T4: Noir/Nayuta/Bunny Soda/Rosanna/Drake
T5: Moran/Bay/Biscuit/SWHA/Cindy
like scarlet needs time too gets her stacks tooo
The faster it dies the faster you burst
hmm looks ok
straightforward lineup
Realizing that I need more CS to a lot of Nikkes, also have like at least lvl 11 (probably higher) Tempering and maybe even lvl 10 or 11 Vigor
Would moran lib helmT mana noah work for SP defense or is it just a CA team
Just for ca + lib is pretty easy to counter for spa
@mystic rain how are you bro? Don't tell me you delete game for real after CA 2 season ago. 

Ah yeah Zero is experimenting I dunno
Nice Scarlet + SG cook 
one day they'll let us better visualize matchups
unfinished slop that took them 3.5 years to make
I make it out of groups
so i called my uncle and he told me to wait until CN devs added CA to their client
u can display your team in a nice visual format in CN
Is ur uncle's name John?

Btw was there a change to Cindy in pvp? Her decoy doesnt seem to work
And she doesnt get targeted when i put her in P1
Thats her decoy working
In p5, she cant redirect sg or sniper, in p1 everyone skips her
is there anything I can do to improve this? 
If biscuit turns jackal invulnerable, does it prevent damage to the linked targets too?
I'm assuming not because that sounds busted
I thought I would won this but liberalio died too fast in t2 (which was surprising because this worked fine against similar team)
any help plspls?
Prevents dmg to the link if jackal is the one being shot
Is bastion the cube I want to level up the most?
no
I have it at level 5 for some reason, Everthing else is 3 and Quantum is 4
Jwoz
Personally I would say resilience is the most versatile for both PvE and tangentially for PvP for CP, atleast at such a low level.
SInce all Nikkes will reload at some point, so the effect is not "wasted" unlike with some other cubes that are more situational.
sbs and arcana alt would like to have a word
Sigh, I'm speaking in general, not focusing on outlier kits.

could someone help me with this?
well sent it as is just moved liberalio to p3 and won
Did Blanc burst before Lib died? Indom went to wrong target? I can't really help beyond that but my first thought
I'm not sure if I thought my Union mail Title through as well as I should have before hitting send 
Noir pfp certainly doesn't help to understand either
first thought goes somewhere else
Damn, are you assuming your union members' sexual tastes there?
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