pvp-arena

[swift mango]

Use Noah to block First volley of SW so no one got killed, while Cindy kill SW. Then whole team gang on Moran.

Idk what you are talking about.

If they used bay then it's easy, just 2.5 RL Cindy with B2 dealing dmg like Centi to break cover then kill SW mid charging

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-know-what-kind-of-man-you-are-moist-i-know-what-kind-of-mand-you-are

@warm monolith ^

[warm monolith]

I wont do something so ungraceful to my wife

[swift mango]

I could only say hit SW is super weak, couldn't even make a dent.

[tropic summit]

that mirror team you proposed was supposed to be "easy" too

[tropic summit]

@warm monolith i can't defend you here

[swift mango]

It's easy but his SW is like half invested.

[tropic summit]

think i still have his blabla link let's see

@swift mango ye there's no atk%

[warm monolith]

you know its actually quite late now, i may need to go to sleep

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-good-night-7

[warm monolith]

I didnt remember i had that much of elem lol

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

Well, it's still max skill, I guess he either deficit your enemy team is just that strong.

[swift mango]

Out trade isn't that easy, swapping to Helm is only a sling advantage. If your investment too much lower than enemy you still just lose.

[tropic summit]

nah wasn't in deficit

but his opponent has better pvp built units

[swift mango]

Is his Moran phase

[tropic summit]

oh not even half built

[tight finch]

Moran starving

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

Anyway, I see Helm, SW, I recommend buffed slow cindy

That's it

Other option is only for when you don't have high Ele cindy

Or can't spare a biscuit

[tropic summit]

so that 3.5RL cindy?

what would the team look like

[swift mango]

Against Noah:
3.5rl Noah+Cindy+Biscuit+RH+Flex

[tropic summit]

if he can't spare a noah or a biscuit what can he run

[swift mango]

Can't spare Noah then it's risky. Can't spare biscuit then could use Soline.

[tropic summit]

ah yes, his very invested soline

[swift mango]

For Bay, use 2.5rl

Centi+Cindy+Biscuit+RH+Flex.

[tropic summit]

the only flex that would let him hit 2.5RL via that is SWHA

he'd need CS% with other clip RL or similar burst gen units

[swift mango]

Or just use

Rapu+Trina+Scarlet+flex 2rl

[tropic summit]

scar + trina is lethal against moran B1?

oh cuz you stunning

but iirc moran still activates due to frames

if moran B1 pops he's no longer lethal with trina alone even if stunning

[swift mango]

Yes, so long as you have the ele. Don't forget Scarlet counter.

[tropic summit]

hmmmm not too sure but if you say so

[swift mango]

If ur scarlet is linked, SW would be down to 70% at least before Scar wipe her ass.

Most the time

[tropic summit]

better hope moran also dies with her

[swift mango]

Nah, Moran aren't solo scar Rapu. She would just die

Could add high dmg like LapT when you are in doubt.

[covert lintel]

The gap lv became 50

[tropic summit]

is it time to unleash your super secret weapon? yes, it is the ||💳 💳 💳 💳 ||

[crystal flicker]

@shell hazel I dont see you and Zant in CA bracket, what a surprise

[tropic summit]

hippo tried running keripo's teams without keripo's CS%

[crystal flicker]

on top of that I had to face last finalist (lost to Blanc man)

[tropic summit]

as for zant, coin toss this time turned to his opponent favour

but we're all familiar with that

https://klipy.com/gifs/credit-card-swipe

[noble hatch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/meme-card-credit-xGOPX4IY24tM1JZnHq

Surprised surprised surprised

https://youtu.be/h_tYi-GXad8

[glad meteor]

This but for priv gacha

Skins been good. But too expensive

[tropic summit]

this one ye?

[glad meteor]

Theres a gacha

Check nikke social

I got times out forwarding nikke twitter post

[tropic summit]

pg13 game

[noble hatch]

isnt this free for everyone? the china version of privaty skin

[tropic summit]

ye i only have f2p skins

[quick lake]

Arcanaaaa lets gooo

New clipSG

[glad meteor]

#game-news message

[noble hatch]

daijoubu, i am looking forward to the next popularity poll

Holy S! Wts???

[glad meteor]

Look at bottom left

[tropic summit]

twin tails + tsundere justice

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

no wonder you couldn't share it

she's basically in her panties

what's even the purpose of those "pants"

[noble hatch]

HOLY! SMOKE!

Also please let us all appreciate the true tsundere face

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/baka-mangobaka-bakamango-mangobae-emfrizzle-gif-20783222

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/sousou-no-frieren-frieren-beyond-journeys-end-11

[upper grove]

Now what will her burst animation be

[glad meteor]

Priv gets

Alt
Gacha
Treasure
Her own event
Skin 2-3

Golden child

[noble hatch]

Wasnt Privaty created by the CEO's wife

[glad meteor]

[upper grove]

Sounds like helm, she just has 1 regular skin but rest is identical

SU blue haired elysion favouritism

Meanwhile OG school setting missilis starving.
I don't even open my missilis molds, full of meh

[glad meteor]

Missilis and tetra meh

[noble hatch]

and SU purposefully made the new Arcana do the twin tails pose

[small gale]

who are the PVP relevant nikkes who stun

[noble hatch]

I have 3 in my mind

I'm going for lunch now, tata

[umbral crown]

Privaty gacha

[lethal karma]

bro pls just let me complete this, SPEED I NEED THISS

[glad meteor]

He bout to whel

Just hack my account and whel on it instead

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

@tropic summit

Shouldve got one rapi burst off

In mmast

0-0-0

[gritty ridge]

Im so glad I can skip the priv skin

It looks worse than all of her other skins

[quick lake]

lets goooo

[umbral crown]

[upper grove]

I just hope to get bade, bmilk and moran dupes in tetra

[gritty ridge]

Its true

Im also hopefully gonna skip arcana

[tight finch]

Arcana best looking unit this year

[gritty ridge]

Not even close

[quick lake]

[spiral onyx]

You're thinking about Helm. The artist behind Privaty is not publicly disclosed

[spiral onyx]

I actually really like it. But I'm a sucker for stockings

[unique wagon]

Hime is winning this banner

[hollow lagoon]

[crystal flicker]

I was wondering why dont we use Mast as a sacc in Rosa comp

[unreal echo]

I wanna check something, say team A is 2rl 105% and team B is 2rl 110%

Does B burst earlier or they still both burst only after the 2nd rl shot, assuming no cs lines

[tulip quest]

Siren PrivT Soda

[small gale]

Thanks.

[tight finch]

Rap stuns

[elfin mesa]

from this list of nikkes, what 3 pvp teams can i make?

[small gale]

is there an iron aoe equivalent to scarlet?

[gaunt pulsar]

both at the same time assuming no cs lines, exceptions exist but not sure if in range of 105-110 you provided
when you see %% being higher for some teams - it doesn't necessarily mean that they are faster, it just means that they had units that generated more in the same timeframe, but in the end they still need that 2nd RL shot from every RL unit to finish off their bar to 100%

For example, if we round some burst gen numbers for simplicity and build 3RL units+tHelm+SWHA:
clip RL unit generate 14% per rocket, charge time 1s + there rocket travel time and when rocket hits without any cs = this counts as one RL timeframe.
tHelm generate 20% per shot, charge time also 1s, but because she doesn't have rockets that travel she just insta shoots and generates energy - like most SR she is technically sub 2rl unit even without any cs lines
SWHA 35% per shot with quantum, charge time 1.2s, cannot shoot twice in 2rl timeframe but 2nd shot is close after it and first one ends somewhere in between 1rl and 2rl.

now we let everyone shoot once = 14%*3+20%+35% = 97%, need 3% more energy, where do you think they finish off their burst gen bar? when RL's send their 2nd rocket? when Thelm shoots? or when swha? answer - ||when tHelm shoots||. and What does Deck tell you? - 159% at 2RL, all because it counts every action that happens inside 2rl timeframe without telling you that you don't need to wait for 2nd rocket to be send by every RL units and your bar is finished when fastest unit shoots 2nd time, in this case that is tHelm.
This is very crude example but kinda hard to explain just in plain text, i suggest you to use nikke.top if you want to check your assumptions of who is faster in two scenarios

[unreal echo]

ya i was making sure i understood the number right and how it actually plays out, it just means that after the 2nd shot A has 5% less excessive burst gauge than B

[gaunt pulsar]

pretty much yea

[marble saddle]

@tropic summit ive peaked
#1153279507210444851 message

[unreal echo]

ok now that i read the last part, i hadn't really looked at it fundamentally until only recently i became interested in pvp, basically say imagine there's a time frame like 0, 1, 2, 3 second marks

assuming the shortest time for any animation from the moment a nikke starts charging to when the shot generates energy belongs to helm which is 1s, snow is 1.2s, and the other RLs are like 1.x that is at least more than 1s, say it's 1.3 for sake of making this example

within the first 1s: it would be helm only so only 20% burst gauge
next 0.2s: is another 35% from snow so 55%
next 0.1s: 55% + 14%*3 so 97%
since helm was already charging for 0.3s already so in the next 0.7s which is exactly at the 2s mark it will be another 20% from helm, otherwise if it was another rl not helm, then it will be snow but yea that's the gist of it

that really explains how the scar nuke team with helm always bursts a bit faster than when it's with centi despite the 2 having the same 2rl

[gaunt pulsar]

1RL is basically - 1s rocket charge time+rocket flight time, which equates to 1.266s total, without any cs lines obv.*
regular sr is just straight up 1s charge > shoot > instantly generate. there a little more nuance to it but in the end SR unit is still faster than rl assuming same charge time and no other conditions.
so assuming we looking at 2rl timeframe it takes 2.533s for 2nd rocket to land, while SR already shot twice because it takes them less time.

Helm Scar isn't a cheatcode to be fast, it makes it easier but you still need cs lines to be faster than 2rl or feed from jackal

[unreal echo]

yea i wasn't comparing it to any team i just literally recorded 2 runs and checked them by the frame and noticed the difference

[shell hazel]

no I died but it's fine lol 😄

[shell hazel]

we should just remove them

[unreal echo]

all good came asking for the numbers, got to learn something else apart from it

[quick lake]

Burst gen too low with Mast and Rosa

[tardy canopy]

He probably got angy a bit

[strange linden]

110 rank damn
I didn't know it could go that low

[jagged sedge]

So is there any word on them fixxing Centi?

[tight finch]

wym centi working as intended

[oak smelt]

I was ranked 190 on my inactive alt account, wondered if the number of players in each bracket is fixed or it varies 🤔

[noble hatch]

Ahhh, my bad, I got mix up with both of the blue hair haha. If that's the case then Privaty must be generally love by the SU.

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit

[swift mango]

It's miniskirt

[swift mango]

At least 200. Could go up to 300-400

Scarlet counter could down their HP a bit before burst here, was unlucky with SW this time and not much g on her but there was still 1 round of SW ammo left before scarlet burst. @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

how did it go after you wiped swha and helmt?

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shirosaki-hana-anime-nod

[tropic summit]

you almost can taste victory, almost

[humble tiger]

Can you go faster?

[undone rapids]

Is there any improvement you guys can suggest? In my server myself and the diamonds 1-4 are usually fighting for challenger 10 haha

[humble tiger]

Assuming all your units are high gen units, have 4 black CS lines and max cs cube.

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• jackal scarlet blanc xmaiden drakeT
• nayuta centi helmT RH noir
• crown cindy sbs rrh biscuit (CP padded team)

Notes

• i don't see several pvp core units and batteries:
  build/wishlit rumani, trina, noise, moranT, SWHA, vestiTU, noah
• if noahless, build bayT
• get moranT then privT then lappyT

[swift mango]

I wanted to test their Rosa but forgot Bay cover would block .. oh well, hope he could hit me down....

Moran, his Moran got kill on the video in the video.

[tropic summit]

hmm interesting

[swift mango]

Just discovered my Rosa wasn't even linked.

[tropic summit]

@swift mango your rosanna is unlinked here, the average lad won't retain lethal on their water codes unless high ele though

[tropic summit]

ye as above

[swift mango]

60% Ele.

[tropic summit]

Gonna be a pretty steep assumption that people have access to that

[swift mango]

That's why you link her.

[elfin mesa]

i was on a small hiatus from the new years so i don't have snow white heavy arms, or moran treasure

but this team will still go completely fine for the distance right? I'm planning to gun towards diamond 1-3

[tropic summit]

ye in my case lappy wouldn't be linked at least

safe to assume most ppl DON'T have lappy high on atk% theoretically if anything, or at least rosa should be higher

[swift mango]

My Lappy 10+ lower ATK% but core +5 while my Rosa MLB.

[tropic summit]

T1 and T2 are decent, T3 is cope, check notes to fix that

[swift mango]

My LapT wasn't linked before when she was core+4, +5 and she linked.

[tropic summit]

any chance opponent with CS% reaches moran B1 in time to catch at least 1 of rosanna's B1s?

[elfin mesa]

yeah that's fine i mostly just need 2 competent teams to win anyway

right now I'm just gonna try and get stuff back in order, patience is key

[swift mango]

Well, hard to say, there are but my opponent isn't

[tropic summit]

oke, remember to avoid running scarlet into noah and bay with biscuit in it

[gaunt pulsar]

well cs always helps and makes you faster, but you physically cannot reach 1rl burst without some jackal feed or rosanna sacrifices.
one of the fastest you could do naturally without much cs lines and only 1-2 quantums is swha/thelm/jackal/trina/lib or cliprl

[elfin mesa]

hard counter I'm assuming?

[swift mango]

I guess my opponent is bad example because low CS. His CP and level similar to mine so just hope his Moran s3 LV10.

[tropic summit]

anti nuke and stall teams are indom scarlet bane

[tropic summit]

slow or high feed enemy teams are what you want to punish with scarlet

[humble tiger]

So what's the theoretical limit?

[tropic summit]

@elfin mesa as a general rule of thumb, avoid 2RL noah, you can always check speeds here (both enemy and yours)

https://nikke-deck.com/en/deck

[elfin mesa]

someone in challenger 3 told me to use this team, is it viable?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1109602461460742296/1481492282405290056/Screenshot_20260312_112039_NIKKE.jpg?ex=69b77734&is=69b625b4&hm=903f9e5eac4a3fbd77b5130174573dc1a40ba9dc4c5a4a2193b32cf68c1d3e35&

[tropic summit]

ye as long as there isn't an enemy siren on the other side

it's a bit congested team though, prefer the two teams i gave you

looks like a situational indom scarlet

[elfin mesa]

alright thanks for the help, i just clawed back up from 0 rank 😭

what a few months off does to a commander

[gaunt pulsar]

to lose as much units as possible as fast as possible, or go attack 5sg team idk, it's stupid the theorize unrealistic scenarios

[humble tiger]

It doesn't have to win. It just needs to be the fastest at reaching FB.

[elfin mesa]

also the people in my group are way ahead of me in combat power should i be especially worried about that when using those teams

[tropic summit]

this is the fastest

has very high chance to be promoted to 1.5RL with minimal feed

[humble tiger]

Ooh. Cool.

[elfin mesa]

right now i guess i just need like, a billion rocks, a billion t9m selectors and a lot of good rng

my scarlet has full set of t9m and doll, any rolls i should look out for to make her perform her best?

[crystal flicker]

ATK ELE Crit

Maybe Ammo < 50% if you want to optimize her passive

[tropic summit]

20-40% atk is a good start

[elfin mesa]

what about this

[tropic summit]

yes, CP is one of the key factors in pvp, when you're above 15.4% deficit, assume you will likely lose unless you know exactly what you're doing

you can find out if you're hit by penalty by multiplying enemy team CP for 0.846

your team CP needs to be higher than the value you get out of that, else just hit somebody else

[glad meteor]

[elfin mesa]

there's one guy in my group that's basically been spending money since day 1, they're at challenger 7 i personally dont think i can even push that hard as a casual spender atp

win some lose some am i right

[covert lintel]

My rosanna food

[small gale]

how does targeting work in PVP again? Which positions aim at which opponent positions?

[raven plover]

atk SR aim p5, defend aim p1

atk SG aim p1, defend aim p5

thats the only thing you need to remember really

p1 - p5 left to right

[small gale]

which nikke becomes designated target for Privaty's Skill 2 (LD Assault)? Is it always P1?

[raven plover]

yes unless theres a taunt and her last bullet happen to hit the unit taunting her

[small gale]

If the SR kills P5, who does it target next?

[rich quail]

Down the line, innit?

P4

[raven plover]

yes

[small gale]

Thanks

[hollow lagoon]

Designated target = units struck by her p5 aoe

So all units are designated targets

But designated target is a debuff allowing her to proc her last bullet damage so only the one being shot at by Privity

[swift mango]

lower

[shell hazel]

he back after 2 weeks and +25 sync on me atm

massive cp pad nonsense on t3

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

looks like he half knows what to do half not, cute attempt on his side

[shell hazel]

he might gap me a bit more at 561 but I think I could still take 2 of his 3 teams out then

he's stuck at gluttony atm which I did like 40 sync below him, skill issued in pve 😄

I can jump 541 sooner or later if I feel like it too, 533 atm

[swift mango]

I guess u made him those teams and told him to pad

[swift mango]

Add note to your avatar page to tell him to gap you by 80

[shell hazel]

he's sat in 2nd and I doubt the others here can touch him on cp anymore, still I'll just see how it goes lol

[swift mango]

Add "gap me 80lv scrub" to your description.
Surely it would motivate him.

[gentle merlin]

a question about Special Arena Shuffle, anybody can explain me how this work ? I will be put together with active players close to my account starting date right ?

[shell hazel]

no it stays as 7 pilgrim mold 0 ssr lol

[shell hazel]

yup for good or bad, also sometimes not much will change for you

or your bracket will look totally different

[gentle merlin]

🥹 will they take into account of a return account that is 100 lvl under sync ?

[shell hazel]

no

[gentle merlin]

[shell hazel]

returnee = 🧱 a bit sadly

[lunar pawn]

sad day for humanity

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/minions-back-pat-cheer-up-sad-disappointed-gif-4538826

[swift mango]

now go for losing frame

[lunar pawn]

guy had pepega teams and investment but rng

[swift mango]

I guess his Soda beat your Rapu huh?

[lunar pawn]

yea rapu didn't get to 30% and his stun landed on both b3

[shell hazel]

@arctic jewel gl bro you got multi-winning champ blanc/moran guy next

[lunar pawn]

his nero team somehow killed SW before blanc indom

might have missed some rockets, Idk

[raven plover]

somehow

[lunar pawn]

I had faster burst gen but his helm nuke still landed on SW before indom

sg team was a win

soda and noir died at the same time

[tropic summit]

don't think i've ever seen this guy here asking for help

think he just slapped them together on his own

you can see how he used the standard archetypes and just used his most invested units instead of the meta ones

[shell hazel]

nah is cn guy anyway doubt he chats here

[crystal flicker]

They have Weibo for a reason

[tropic summit]

run these as long as you're not gapped, i used most of your invested units

[arctic jewel]

My bracket is looking rough, I honestly think I'll lose immediately

[tropic summit]

we got a few stalkers from CN here tho, but ye i doubt he's the case

[shell hazel]

if you win next game (and lucky bugger is on def against you) then you basically won CA anyway lol

[crystal flicker]

@swift mango You're right lol

[shell hazel]

this guy won it like 5-6 times now

[lethal karma]

i dont have thelm yet, doll boxes refusing to give me sr15 even tho she is prepped everywhere else

[tropic summit]

didn't we tell you to build her like over 2 weeks ago? what's taking so long

[lethal karma]

THE DOLL BOXES MAN I KEEP GETTING BAD RNG

[tropic summit]

either way stick a trina instead of helmT then check CP

[arctic jewel]

😔

[lethal karma]

okie

[shell hazel]

I hope you smash em anyway, but him and tenshi got so much luck

[arctic jewel]

@shell hazel I'm just gonna blame on Shift Up for not giving me enough resources xD

[shell hazel]

they usually on whale cores as well

so uphil struggle, unsure how whaled his cores are

[arctic jewel]

Yeah, like 90% of their Nikkes are Max cores

[swift mango]

Now show vid so we know Blanc ded at 1st, 2nd or 3rd shot

[ancient sun]

@oak hatch hey, what are your investments for Scarlet team to make it fast?

[arctic jewel]

Meanwhile, I have only 2 (Helm and Siren) and some of the Nikkes have low CP too xD

[tropic summit]

@lethal karma if you need CP trina and SWHA interchangable so fix as needed, remember to check by multiplying for 0.846

if CP is fine just run them

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/tryan-trying-tryan-meme-tyran-tryan-memecoin-gif-8659835552010244660

[lethal karma]

cp look good 👍

[tropic summit]

ok run T1 with SWHA if CP is irrelevant, that way you know for sure p3 and p4 are linked, you want to avoid having linked p1 and p2, those two will be fine without being linked and you keep your link healthier

[lethal karma]

Alright ill run them in

[tropic summit]

that's a war crime

[crystal flicker]

They died before 2RL kekw

[lethal karma]

@tropic summit win thankies, next time ill ask whenever my thelms ready, the unluck has been cruel

[shell hazel]

yeah if done right this comp is vicious. I don't think I can run it though needs some invest

[oak hatch]

Cs on Trina anis and centi is required for it to burst faster, quantum not needed, also sorry about the result

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/thats-a-lot-of-damage-2

[swift mango]

So 2nd or third hit.

[ancient sun]

Dw about it. That was a deterministic outcome. Also Quantum on Scarlet, Trina,Centi,Rumani?

[oak hatch]

No, they can’t go any faster in that matchup with quantum, in certain matchups one quantum on anis or centi may help a little faster

[oak hatch]

Just run anis+centi because they have more burst gen, centi and rumani may need 2 quantums for slightly faster speed but i use it because i don’t have anis built

[gentle merlin]

is cube in arena separate with campaign cube ? Or when I do different content I need to switch cube accordingly ?

[ancient sun]

Well this the team I used has anis centi. But it seems your soda blocked my RH and I was screwed

[swift mango]

@covert lintel wasn't a good example but I got hit with Libby here. Cindy and Centi survive thanks to Biscuit.

[ancient sun]

Is this then incorrect? I cant your one to 2RL without quantum. I didn’t check nikke top

[oak hatch]

Yeah its cs/rng battle in that matchup, aim for 8+ cs on clip rl for now

[ancient sun]

Welp in a very distant future when I can dedicate more for PvP

[oak hatch]

Nah nikke deck doesn’t account for scarlet s2, so it’s already 2 rl in scar vs scar matchup without quantums

[crystal flicker]

"Some investment"

[swift mango]

Funny how I got 18/20 win this CA thus far and the only team that's losing is Vesti.

[ancient sun]

S2 generates burst…?

Wtf I didn’t know that

[gaunt pulsar]

her base shot 0,45% energy per every counter, but counters happen at 30% chance

[ancient sun]

https://tenor.com/view/scared-funny-monday-cat-gif-13269203

[oak hatch]

Use nikke top instead, they have option to show speed with scar counter

[gaunt pulsar]

it's still rng and not a fact that you will have as much as nikke top says, but they do account for every bullet scarlet receives and count it at 30% chance of countering

with that team you have plenty of energy overhead, so it's not an issue

[ancient sun]

CS8 vs CS0

okay makes sense (I put quantum for highlighting difference)

[oak hatch]

Just save ur quantums for other teams

[ancient sun]

I might try something different next arena so we will see. Scarlet team would stay like this tho

too expensive to invest and even not priority compare to other units

[elfin mesa]

@tropic summitit actually worked. all 3 rounds won

[nimble swan]

Is nikke.top accurate enough that even worth trying to calculate something like this?

[oak hatch]

I wouldn’t even bother with that, too much rng

[gaunt pulsar]

you dont know their cs and chances of rapu stun happening, so probably not worth it

but team on the right looks more like a winner

[nimble swan]

Chances of rapu stun is basically a given, taken i burst first

Yea, i don’t like my chances against Jackal either

[oak hatch]

U sure u burst first? U could try with nikke top, u have soline and scar to feed his jackal so idk

[nimble swan]

Nah, it’s more likely they burst first, but i try to still cope u know.
But if I’d theoretically burst first it’s basically sure rapu’s hp would be in the stun range

[gaunt pulsar]

you can look their past match and can count their cs from it, then input it in nikke top, if its worth it

[crystal flicker]

Yeah, you still have to fight me if you win

[raven plover]

when in doubt whoever defend win trust

[nimble swan]

Hmm, I choose to cope instead

[nimble swan]

We’ll see if i get there

[fleet acorn]

how is this a team

[swift mango]

my luck is shit today as well... Just tried for sr15 and ended up using everything including rocks for nothing.

[swift mango]

it's a normal CA team. Meta.

[oak smelt]

Anti wind and win without bursting

[oak hatch]

Thoughts on this matchup?

[mystic rain]

@swift mango do i beat this guy or do i uninstall in 24 hours

[fleet acorn]

oh i see, it beated this noah/lib team

can i beat it with my scar?

[torn obsidian]

no

[swift mango]

Depend on how tanky moran is that Left win or lose.

[fleet acorn]

wont trina keep scarlet alive from the non burst dmg? or vesti will be faster?

[torn obsidian]

vesti's shots come after the scarlet indom ends

[oak hatch]

So it’s possible still for vesti team to win that right? It seemed impossible at first for me because biscuit s2 takes up quite a bit of indom time

[fleet acorn]

i guess that could kill me even if my team is 2rl? coz he has no burst gen

[torn obsidian]

vesti doesn't need to burst to kill your team

your whole team will die in 4 shots lol

[oak hatch]

U have a very good chance to win 3 4 5

[mystic rain]

vesti goat

[swift mango]

1- 50/50
2- probably lose.
3- Probably win.
4- edit: good chance.
5- High chance win.

You got better chance than him this round. Thanks to being defender

[mystic rain]

yea i think i win sg mirror as well cuz defenderr

wth even got censored here cmon MAN

[swift mango]

Well, team 4 could could lose depending on if your SW reduce his Label burst gen enough I guess.

[noble hatch]

Season 25 CA - Top 64, fresh from oven

https://youtu.be/qbR-CbROBw8

[mystic rain]

wym

[swift mango]

Well, 4rl Libby could nuke over 2rl Noah, so depend on if they could burst in time since the teams of you 2 has very close burst timing range for mistakes to happen.

Ideally for him, he would Blanc into Libby before your Libby landed then burst with Libby and just in time for not blocked by Noah. Then wipe your Moran that's not biscuited.

But if you landed Libby before his Blanc or Moran survive the nuke thanks to biscuit and solo, he doesn't have much chance.

[glass lodge]

How do i win this team without using noah jackal liberalio emi biscuit

[mystic rain]

idk man lib + bisc doesnt seem pretty fast to me

i think my lib would catch lib mihara bisc at least

[mystic rain]

o wtf

[swift mango]

Your team could be anywhere from 2rl to 2.5rl depending on CS of Libby and quantum so hard to tell.

And Label burst gen is inconsistent with SW kill her shield.

[arctic jewel]

@shell hazel

Hoooooooow?!

I was 99% sure I was gonna lose

[mystic rain]

i forgor label has burst gen 💀

[mystic rain]

my lib has 18 noah bisc has +11 iirc

[swift mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1478874388597182575/IMG_1951.png?ex=69aaa55a&is=69a953da&hm=b4d0ff325dc5ee86b38c2b8135b412a37bf4b1b178bd74c12be47a023f6e53f1&

[swift mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1478874388597182575/IMG_1951.png?ex=69aaa55a&is=69a953da&hm=b4d0ff325dc5ee86b38c2b8135b412a37bf4b1b178bd74c12be47a023f6e53f1&

[swift mango]

Send me that fight tomorrow btw, thanks

[mystic rain]

hell nah

[arctic jewel]

I... I guess I have trust the process more

[mystic rain]

im not posting a vid where i lose bro 💀

[mystic rain]

thats my pride and dignity on the line

[swift mango]

Then if you don't post I would assume you lose.
Or could just send the result screen.

[north brook]

When opp does so little dmg it causes jackal vesti to misindom 💀

[swift mango]

It can't. Unless Rosa unlink or you doesn't make Jackal more HP. Or P1/5 unlinked.

Or you used Anis SR and got hit by SBS/SW

[north brook]

My emi unlink slightly lower hp than vesti by default

[mystic rain]

hp check on jackal indom in year 20XX

[north brook]

Guess would need to minmax that more

[swift mango]

I got indom on Jackal even. Like 3 CA in a row, whether Jackal p1, 2 or 5, all got unlinked then indom on her.

[mystic rain]

oh so u were fighting vs rosa?

[north brook]

Didnt think ca could have a team do so little

[swift mango]

It's always Jackal that got indom before I use Noise.

If Jackal got hit by SG, she survived and got indom.

If Jackal did not get hit by SG, the 2 other linked units got one shot so she got indom.

[mystic rain]

or were u running x3 atk and unlinked unit got dmged somehow

[swift mango]

Well, in that case Jackal still got indomed because 2 atker got killed by Rosa, and the last one full hp.

[north brook]

No i mean they did so low dmg that vesti didnt get lowered below my emi hp

[swift mango]

It's always Jackal that got indom

[swift mango]

Yeah, I got it but I mean it's always the case for me. Adding XMaiden is useless because it's always Jackal get indomed.

[tropic summit]

nayuta mirror with helmT main B3 might let you win the tradeoff

e.g.

• moran nayuta trina helmt swha

keep in mind it's risky, try to free up noah instead so you can play it safe

[mystic rain]

im confused cuz he didnt answer if it was vs rosa

[glass lodge]

Thanks

[north brook]

No rosa just low dmg

[mystic rain]

and if its vs sg

[north brook]

Lol

Was vs lib noah team

[mystic rain]

so ur vesti wasnt linked from the start then?

[glass lodge]

My noah go against scarlet already

[tropic summit]

glass cannon scarlet or indom scarlet? is there a rosanna?

[north brook]

My vesti mlb while emi 0 dupes

[swift mango]

Yeah, there are many reason for misindom when you used Blanc+Jackal vs Rosa.

[glass lodge]

The 3rd team is more than 15% deficit so i skip it

[mystic rain]

or ur vesti just has more hp than emi

[tropic summit]

ye it's glass cannon

[mystic rain]

basically hp check

forget to put vigor on emi?

[north brook]

Just got unlucky

[swift mango]

This is like the only team that can't be missed indom vs SG that I know. Emi lower ATK than Vesti so Rosa doesn't unlink her.

[tropic summit]

you can counter that with 2RL bay or with 2RL indom, that will let you save up noah for T2, so you can also try that approach instead

if you running 2RL indom, run it with biscuit so that you can ensure blanc doesn't die to RNG

e.g:

noise/moran rumani flex flex noah (2RL)
jackal blanc flex biscuit flex (2RL)

[mystic rain]

i always run vigor on my other linked unit that i dont want to be indomed

never had a misfire indom in my life

[north brook]

Emi not even linked

They just didnt do any damage

[swift mango]

This team suck but has 100% win rate against SG.

P1+2 can be any Attacker but p2 less ATK than p1.

[mystic rain]

yea i run vesti ada helm as well ada always has vigor but my helm has 5 more dupes than my vesti so im not worried abt her getting indom

vesti with bastion cuz higher lvl means higher atk than ada with vigor low lvl

same dupe count same gear lvl

[unique wagon]

Blanc goes to Emilia then Tvesti burst

[mystic rain]

always check hp and test on shooting range for indom target boys

[harsh pilot]

No need. Just look at their stat screen when you have jackal

[unique wagon]

Are you planning to make Label get linked

[harsh pilot]

Since jackal distributes the damage equally, anyway

[swift mango]

Just can't. Emi can't be unlinked because Rosa dispel Label+Vesti.

Emi always has higher HP than Vesti. If Vesti died Emi burst that's it.

Team is 2rl even vs defending SG because SG would skip after destroying Label shield and feed Jackal.

[mystic rain]

other guy gets misindom cuz unlinked emi has lower hp than vesti vs enemy with low dmg offburst

emi gets indom instead

quite funny actually

[swift mango]

Label isn't linked because she activate her ATK boost after Jackal link thanks to positioned behind Jackal.

But she will be dispelled by Rosa.

Keeping the linked on Jackal and p2

And since p2 still got Label DR, Rosa doesn't do much dmg on her at all.

[mystic rain]

lmao

thats such a nerd strat vs rosa hahahhah

[swift mango]

Well, yeah, considered it got killed by a single Siren.

Or worse, not enough dmg or sustain vs Moran because not bursting with Label or Noise .

[shell hazel]

that's why I said, next guy is the 5-6 time multi winner lol

[shell hazel]

[unique wagon]

Blood, what is your opinion on Retros retirement

[swift mango]

Welcome to the Rosy Religion.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1478874388597182575/IMG_1951.png?ex=69aaa55a&is=69a953da&hm=b4d0ff325dc5ee86b38c2b8135b412a37bf4b1b178bd74c12be47a023f6e53f1&

[swift mango]

From Prydwen?

[unique wagon]

From the game permanently

He is quitting in less than 1 week away

All accounts

Bro thinks Retro's name is a joke

[tropic summit]

the real question is why is he quitting and is he moving to a different game?

[swift mango]

I will have my opinion when he actually got kicked from Section.

[unique wagon]

Why does that matter

[swift mango]

Because it means he really quitted.

[spiral onyx]

Quit to play Nekopara

[unique wagon]

Im pretty sure he quit SECTION already

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-see-youre-a-man-of-culture-as-well

[swift mango]

Nah, still vice leader.

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/nyaruhodo-hxh-hunter-x-hunter-neferpitou-anime-gif-11663505576349852877

[unique wagon]

Hows your collection thing

[spiral onyx]

Collection thing?

[unique wagon]

Then soon

[unique wagon]

The one thats broken down

[shell hazel]

if retro has retired from the game then that's that

[tropic summit]

agreed, just curious if he's moving to a different game or is busy IRL

[swift mango]

™

[spiral onyx]

If you're referring to my floppy disk, it's going as fast as you'd expect anything from the government

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/fluorite-endfield-arknights-arknights-endfield-no-no-gif-17903068594839167665

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

Retro retired because he broke your floppy disk.

[unique wagon]

[shell hazel]

wen retro gonna boost my ship production?

[unique wagon]

I will truly miss Retro

[tropic summit]

he can't boost it if i boost it everyday

[unique wagon]

Your legacy will be remembered

[shell hazel]

200 IQ strats

[tropic summit]

join him in his next adventure, wherever it will be, problem solved

[shell hazel]

road trip across sub-saharan Africa!

[unique wagon]

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

[crystal flicker]

Retro gonna come back with beter KDA

[unique wagon]

[tropic summit]

imagine playing multiple accounts at same time, managing multiple unions and doing MA work while writing guides, the dude deserves a break

oh and also deficit maldin on multiple accounts

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

[shell hazel]

tbh he didn't need to do all that if he didn't want to :9

a lot of that is on his own back for taking it on

[tropic summit]

oi oi, we don't use logic here

[shell hazel]

he could have quit everything apart from the main acc/game if he tired of the extra work

[umbral belfry]

it's true

it's time to bid my velvet profile goodbye in here once I'm home

[shell hazel]

it's a shame he's gone but is what it is

[tropic summit]

time to remove velvet from your basement and put arcana back you mean

[shell hazel]

Priv coming instead? 😮

[umbral belfry]

[umbral belfry]

sir arcana sp just came out and you're talking about priv??

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-sad-gif-10692536301102666475

[tropic summit]

have you seen that skin?

what are your thoughts on the matter hime

[unique wagon]

Arcana > Miku wannabe

[shell hazel]

I've been skipping as many gacha skins as I can, and I think the priv one has become a must get sadly

[unique wagon]

Miku > Privaty

[umbral belfry]

these are my thoughts and I'm also in the chair

ok back to work

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/nichijou-yukko

[crystal flicker]

"must get"
imagine being a whale

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/scissors-gif-11511235885924031825

[unique wagon]

Mods?

[shell hazel]

it's what the job is for, stupid shit I wanna buy lol

[tropic summit]

it's just 2 people playing twister and one dude watching that they don't break any rule

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

I would have more opinion later. But for now, the lesson is that don't try to be compete on more than 1 account.

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

Emote name

[crystal flicker]

Or you could invest it to some Chinese ram, and resell it 500%

[tropic summit]

lmao i didn't notice

[shell hazel]

my mortgage is going from 1% to 4% in a few months, will cost me several times over what I was spending on nikke lol

[tropic summit]

sassuga kara, what a chad

[unique wagon]

Kara

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/dump-it-gif-26704933

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

x5 the price, a bad time to need a PC upgrade

[shell hazel]

I'm not going to upgrade for a while I think

[crystal flicker]

Just when I need extra ram smh

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-toilet

[shell hazel]

with this being a 3 week banner for arcana btw I am fully expecting a 2nd unit to arrive a week after her

schoolgirls usually come in duos right?

[bitter summit]

Hi, guys, sorry to interrupt. Any advice about this kind of team? I been trying with something like: Blanc, Libby, Cindy, Biscuit, Noise…but not quite yet…anyway, thanks. 🙏🏼

[shell hazel]

is your cp similar? take it this is rookie?

we can punish moran b1 at p1 and not 2RL

[tropic summit]

• jackal blanc vestiTU biscuit ada (ada more HP than vestiTU)
• scarlet trina rh siren jackal

[tropic summit]

not sure how this one goes with siren on moran tho, exact same frame as activation

and assuming opponent has no CS%

[shell hazel]

don't think CS really helps them here, noah and biscuit not getting a 3rd shot off anyway

[tropic summit]

ye shouldn't matter aside them being exactly on same frame

[shell hazel]

SW fixed CS it's mainly her getting it to 2.5RL

yeah that would be a curious one

[tropic summit]

time for science

[shell hazel]

[covert lintel]

4rl libby

Who cooks weird teams like that

[gritty ridge]

I like the stockings, I do not like glasses at all tho. Ade and label are the only ones that get a pass for me

[tropic summit]

imagine buying skins

[shell hazel]

don't just imagine, do it!

https://tenor.com/view/sussa-gif-6781920787725379315

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/anime-anya-6

[swift mango]

It's 2.5-3rl

Cindy decoy and Centi shield

[gritty ridge]

Dont make me buy every tier but the skin

[tropic summit]

opens nikkipedia, can see all skins for free

but don't let SU know that

[shell hazel]

excuse me my jpgs are valuable

[placid bloom]

lobby screen not free

[tropic summit]

opens youtube

[swift mango]

@fathom rock
If you quited, could Bigboi take your name?

[shell hazel]

realises it's now just full of ai slop videos and closes youtube

[tropic summit]

that's 2026 and the future will get just worse

we will need tools that detect AI and warn us what we watching is authentic and unedited

[swift mango]

@gritty ridge

[shell hazel]

I can see people mainly supporting actual people who are there doing shit more as a result lol, it's pretty bad already

[gritty ridge]

Retro quitting?

[placid bloom]

Nikke already made by team of AI

[shell hazel]

my respect to those who are not ai slop

[tropic summit]

so it seems, in around a week

[gritty ridge]

Rip

Best mobile malder i knew

[swift mango]

Yeah, Manhua nowaday can do 1 chapter a day thanks to AI.

[gritty ridge]

I love mtl yippeee

[swift mango]

No, I mean drawing.

[gritty ridge]

Ah, I refuse to read those

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

[umbral crown]

hai

[gritty ridge]

Theyre always cookie cutter and have no cohesive plot

[tropic summit]

draws made by AI are still too sloppy and soul less

[tropic summit]

they'd need to be able to mimic draw styles, e.g. mimic actual authors patterns

once they can do that, we're truly screwed

[shell hazel]

I can't wait for the ai to start taking it's ideas from other ai slop 😄

[swift mango]

Even big titles like this use AI.
https://comick.dev/comic/00-i-m-really-not-the-evil-god-s-lackey?page=6

[gritty ridge]

Ive never read that

Doesnt look like something id enjoy either

Its not romance or action

[swift mango]

It's one of the more famous manhua that non Manhua reader thought it was Manhwa

[placid bloom]

there were already technique for speeding up drawing, before they were tracing 3D model

cuz it makes the proportions more accurate

now also let AI do coloring and shading

[tropic summit]

as long as AI helps and doesn't replace or reduce the quality, i see it only as progress

[swift mango]

Idk, I see 2 left hand or different model for the same side character, I call ai.

[placid bloom]

atm I think most manhwa mainly focus on drawing the face and hair

[placid bloom]

the body is mostly traced

[shell hazel]

[placid bloom]

that's why every person have the same build

[gritty ridge]

Rn im enjoying dungeon odyssey

[tropic summit]

1 + 2 + 3 = 15 yeah makes sense

[swift mango]

Not when same side character has different head.

[north brook]

Accidentally read it in like 3 days

[spiral onyx]

I'm a huge glasses fantatic

[gritty ridge]

The current chapter?

[north brook]

I mean all of it to catchup

[umbral crown]

like when mari was released

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-glasses-push-nerd-gif-4899021

[gritty ridge]

I never have been, most likely never will be

[placid bloom]

well if they have too much competition then they will resort to full AI to put out more content

those are the real trash

[umbral crown]

ah but when Neon with glasses

[gritty ridge]

Its a good read with a unique artsyle

[swift mango]

I recommend you read it. It's a very good comic if you like "Imminent in the shadow"

[finite scarab]

hello, any smart kind soul could help me build rookie and SP arena teams

[north brook]

We really need them to make more glasses chars than just regular stereotyped ones

[gritty ridge]

I actually really dont like that show

[tropic summit]

eminence in the shadow

[gritty ridge]

I hate hiding power trope

[swift mango]

Yeah

[spiral onyx]

I have one of these in my drawer somewhere

Unfortunately it's too small for me to wear

[umbral crown]

waos, true man of cultured

[swift mango]

He doesn't hide his power, more like everyone thinks of him being OP and he is actually kinda OP but he never knows until almost the end of the story. .

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/touko-aozaki-kara-gif-5546189

[gritty ridge]

I saw some clips of him actively hiding his power as a kid

[placid bloom]

he hide his identity, not his power

[gritty ridge]

Losing on purpose

[placid bloom]

the people that know his identity know his power

[spiral onyx]

I have 3 of these pairs so far

[swift mango]

I mean the "I'm not the devil god lackey" one.

Bro only think of him as a book seller, he is strong but he doesn't know it. And everyone thought of him OP but that's not actually his power.

[gritty ridge]

Ah ok, I may give it a chance sometime but theres low odds

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• centi alice noir siren anis
• liter anchorIM vestiTU drake rumani
• crown biscuit mod volume naga

Rookie

• crown centi siren vestiTU noir

[finite scarab]

these are attack teams right? should i copy the same into defense team?

[swift mango]

Lin Jie is an otherworlder who manages a bookstore. He’s kind and always recommends soul-healing books Erich horror power up for his dejected customers. Sometimes he’d even share his own works too. As time goes on, these customers start to respect him a lot like an evil mastermind. They bring simple local products ~~magical artifact ~~ every day to show their gratitude and ask for book recommendations. They even start telling tales of this ordinary shopkeeper. His respectful and cordial titles include “Hyena of the Evil God”, “Herald of the Flesh Gospel”, “Author of Cultes des Goules” and “Shepherd of the Stars”?

[tropic summit]

ye run them for both, you're synchro 160 anyway won't be doing much yet

focus on building up your campaign team first and foremost, pvp can wait once that's settled

[finite scarab]

okies, thank you very much. lets see if i can reverse energy(engineer) this pvp team comp, and understand how pvp works

[shell hazel]

take this, you'll need it https://nikke-deck.com/en/deck

[gritty ridge]

Deck has been taking ages to load for me, I asked bas7ial but no response

[finite scarab]

yeah im hard stuck at chapter 24, waiting for half anni to try breaking the wall

[shell hazel]

mine is like instant 😮

[gritty ridge]

Maybe its this

[shell hazel]

your internet appears broken sir

[tropic summit]

SP arena

• nayuta centi helmt rh drakeT
• moran noah siren swha biscuit
• jackal scarlet blanc trina vestiTU

[shell hazel]

someone is torrenting on your connection

[tropic summit]

they mining with his resources surely

[swift mango]

If you can't break wall then don't open box and keep hoarding

[gritty ridge]

Nah, my dad installed a bunch of wifi cameras

[gritty ridge]

So I have no internet now

[tropic summit]

is he making sure what happens when you go in your room with the ladies you "training"?

[gritty ridge]

Ofc ofc

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-nikke-meme-press-gif-5443931151072188231

[tropic summit]

jokes aside i should get cameras too for security

you never know when some engineer gonna enter your house when you're not home afterall

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/sleeping-zzz-doro-pink-hair-nikke-goddess-of-victory-gif-1350981982149880909

[tropic summit]

RIP void, still not even close

[shell hazel]

nop

[lusty gull]

use new domain

[gritty ridge]

Im using the app

[lusty gull]

uninstall web.app if you did

[tropic summit]

he replied to you

[swift mango]

I just use the "installed app", website just doesn't load on my browser. Guess I could find the domain somehow.

[gritty ridge]

This one?

[lusty gull]

like i said before, you need to uninstall web.app and install from new domain

[lusty gull]

yes

[tropic summit]

also looks like we settled on the blue tone

my eyes are enjoying the relaxing color

[swift mango]

Red is more relax

[tropic summit]

the opposite of relaxing for the eyes

[swift mango]

There are full of red here everyday so more used to than blue.

[gritty ridge]

Now its not letting me install

Im having a terrible time

I got it

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-hiding-embarrassed-bush-gif-6287489991893889017

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-cat-funny-cat-cat-sleeping-lazy-cat-gif-3663060523172870024

[gritty ridge]

I have my saved deck, couldnt figure out how to port the old decks

[tropic summit]

time to do some clickin'

[swift mango]

5rl Libby. 💩

[lusty gull]

it's too late now, i show a warning during days

[gritty ridge]

Its fine

I didnt need the saved decks, I usually rebuild every time

[lusty gull]

people who still use web.app are redirected to .com after a long loading time

[finite scarab]

my plan is dumping my gems into the half anni banner, hoping to get dupes on my wishlist. will it be enough

[swift mango]

helf anni doesn't give wishlisted units only

but trying to pull MLB on a focused banner is how you break wall

and save those selector as well.

[finite scarab]

i know, just a slither of hope for me for either pulling dupes on wishlist or the anni banner

idk how else i can get more wishlisted dupes. wait and farm more blue tickets? spend gems on ordinary banner?

[oak hatch]

I’d fix this wishlist a bit if u plan to PvP

[oak smelt]

Focus on the 5 bonus recruit unit and drake

And keep the spare body selector until ur last MLB unit

[tropic summit]

he's synchro 160 and needs to break wall

[swift mango]

pull to MLB 2 banner, + MLB 1 free SSR in Anni reward, the check 2 units at lb2 use silver mileage for one and selector for another

[oak hatch]

Many of the 0lbs can go tho

[finite scarab]

no plans to pvp. just want an okay team, and forget about it

[oak smelt]

If you can wait then half anni gives a free MLB unit

[finite scarab]

is attempting to MLB half anni banner a bad move in breaking 160?

i might have around 550 pulls if I saved all for half anni banner + 10 gold tickets

[oak hatch]

Pilgrim banners are 1% rate so they are more likely to cost u more gems compared to non pilgrim banner

So u can possibly drain all ur gems and still not get mlb of the pilgrim

But u can try ur luck with pulls and then mileage the rest to get mlb

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/jsPIjKXpCHc?si=wI9LJXz6AaDae2Kl

[lusty gull]

is it working fine now on your potato @gritty ridge ?

[gritty ridge]

It is working, thank you bas7ial

[gritty ridge]

No, its what I did

You get a semi refund on anni pulls

[tight finch]

I mean anni gives you free mlb welfare unit

[finite scarab]

what resource is this semi-refund? golden tickets?

[gritty ridge]

It gives you pulls back

Its a weird system

[swift mango]

300 pulls refund like 50. So still lower uprate than normal banner taking into account that 16% discount.

But more SSR overall.

[finite scarab]

youre saying the half anni banner pull system is different from ordinary/collab/event banner?

[placid bloom]

not always, they didn't do it for 3rd anni

just because there is 1% banner doesn't mean they will have pull milestone rewards

they only did it for 2.5 and SDoro banner so far

[swift mango]

It only started since 3rd year but it's the norm now for Anni

[swift mango]

3rd anni all had it.

[placid bloom]

it wasn't there for Lib and Nayuta from what I remember

[upper grove]

milestone rewards for 1% pilgrims started with 2.5 anni except NY banners

[placid bloom]

[swift mango]

It's there

[tropic summit]

plot twist: it's still a scam practice to get you to burn resources

[placid bloom]

or was it, they just skipped NY?

[upper grove]

siren mihara 2.5
sdoro summer
lib nayuta 3.0

[tropic summit]

"oh i get back some of the resources, so i can spend on this"

[upper grove]

whale bait 🐳

[placid bloom]

I just remember they skip a 1%

[upper grove]

takes one to know one

[placid bloom]

even though we thought they would do for all 1%

[upper grove]

SWHA/Rapi rerun/anni rerun banners doro/mod/RH

[placid bloom]

cuz even SDoro had pull reward

[swift mango]

It's normal practice to save for Anni because of benefit and better units. But in this game it was bad, so they added the 16% refund/discount. It's now good value for newer player who still lack lots of units. You actually get more SSR for the same number of pulls. And good chance of Pilgrim.

[placid bloom]

if you missing everyone it's okay

[tropic summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/bait-1

[placid bloom]

but it's still high chance to get outdated Nikke compared to getting pilgrim

pulling off banner garbage now is actually really sad

[swift mango]

Still better than standard pull for new players

[placid bloom]

well you not spending gem on standard

[swift mango]

New players needs those old "out date" units so much that they would go for standard. Rather just pull anni

[finite scarab]

yeah. after cross-checking the nikkes in the selector+silver shop+bonus recruit, ordinary banner looks so tempting to pull

[placid bloom]

just for breaking wall?

[finite scarab]

yea

[placid bloom]

1 copy Priv, 3 copy Drake, and then exchange some Helm is make you halfway done already. Then free mlb on anni

don't think you even need gem to get that much silver mileage

[swift mango]

About wishlist, your top priority now is to break wall

Replace all units that's 0lb to 1-2LB, Don't wishlist anything that doesn't serve that purpose until you know that you could break wall.

[placid bloom]

you get a good amount of standard ticket from lost sector and shit

[swift mango]

You kind need to break wall in 2 months or you start bricking.

[placid bloom]

if you don't break wall in 1 month you already bricked

even I break wall in 1 month

[swift mango]

Nah you don't level up that fast

[swift mango]

Now a true lucky bastard

[placid bloom]

I was sync 180 by the first time I did SR, and that was like 1 month after 2nd anni

I mean you get like a shitton of pull during anni so there is that

also even though I created my account late I got the Behemoth compensation reward

[finite scarab]

blue tickets? any rough amount?

[placid bloom]

didn't even participate in that SR cuz it ended the day before I made account

[placid bloom]

like 2 per lost sector or something, and you get like 1-2 unlock per chapter you clear

or maybe it's cuz I'm counting hard mode, some of the early hard mode also unlock I think

[gaunt pulsar]

3 per lost sector

[placid bloom]

I just know you get a lot if you are doing everything you can

you also get them from the rewards for account progress

only time you need to spend gem on standard is if you know 100% that you can break wall

like I think I spent 30 pull or something cuz I needed 30 more silver mileage to get 1 copy of Guillotine for last mlb

and I didn't want to wait

it's kinda worth if you are able to keep SPA challenger

but if not then not worth

[finite scarab]

I’m like 280k cp in SPA, mostly bronze did pucnhed up to diamond once and dropped back

[placid bloom]

bronze is really low

[finite scarab]

Yea, people are in the 500,000+ cp , cant touch them

[placid bloom]

seem you took break so your PvP kinda doomed

unless you walled for super long time or something

[finite scarab]

You are correct, returned 3 yearslater

[swift mango]

Idk tell me your synch level vs theirs synch level, not CP.

[placid bloom]

tbh if you cannot hold diamond you might as well play game casually

there is no point rushing when you are this behind

[swift mango]

Then just make new account.

Or just pull what ever and don't worry much about wall.

[versed mesa]

Got to keep C3 for almost 19 hours. though now that I hit them again, I expect that shit ain't gonna hold

[swift mango]

If this is account returned after 3 years and you don't have Makima, just reroll during anni.

[gaunt pulsar]

his whole bracket seems dead if he managed to hit up to diamond with 3 year is inactive at lvl160

unless he meant 3 years ago he did that*

[swift mango]

People often unsynch units and doesn't change team, not even opened the arena menu tbf, so ended up with whole squad level 1 nikkes

[gaunt pulsar]

yeah maybe

[placid bloom]

maybe some people don't realize there is atk and def team, they only edit atk team and never change def from beginning of game

[swift mango]

There is also rookie, that you got high rank just by login at reset.

[gaunt pulsar]

hard to belive those sit at diamond by maybe at like d10

[versed mesa]

No way, definitely people would not mess that up... (I might have messed that up for like the first year....)

[north brook]

Lot of ppl barely care about rookie

[finite scarab]

I see 160-300 sync a lot. An outlier of 417 sync.

[gaunt pulsar]

there like 700 at the top probably

[swift mango]

Just hit ranking tab, then click on C1 guy avatar and check his synch level.

[finite scarab]

This was previous sp season

[placid bloom]

3 year account is definitely going to be 700+ for challenger

[north brook]

Check all of top 3 for good idea

[swift mango]

Top 20 as well then

[north brook]

Rank 1 sometimes whale harder

[versed mesa]

I'm day 1 and I am at 706

Never spending on level up resources

[north brook]

Tbh around top 10ish is more casual daily player, top 3 is more competitive/higher spender usually

[finite scarab]

Oh yes.

1. 769
2. 686
3. 641

[swift mango]

If you buy skill patch and skin gacha, pulls blunder you also get resources.
But yeah, 706 is F2P-able

[versed mesa]

I am never gonna spend a cent on overpriced gacha skins

[swift mango]

Well, just reroll if you don't have Makima.
Synch level not account level, Right? Either way, just reroll.

[finite scarab]

Yeah, sync level

[north brook]

Yeah if u dont have units worth keeping just start over

[gaunt pulsar]

or just pve only, still probably could climb eventually, pushing inactive players that dont care about pvp, but yea, pvp is pretty much forever 🧱

[versed mesa]

The mission or event passes with a good skin are the only ones where I can somewhat justify the price for myself, everything else just is ludicrous

[gaunt pulsar]

lvl160 is like 2-3 weeks of game time anyway

[swift mango]

Anni is good time to reroll. You may meet tons of whale and a harder SpA bracket but you would still do better in arena if you keep up with playing daily than your old account.

But if you are casual and just wanted to break wall to clear normal campaign and doesn't care about competition at all, then just spend your gem for wall breaking and done.

[versed mesa]

The only gacha skin I have is the Scarlet Stellar Blade skin, but that was only because it came with the Stellar Blade deluxe edition.

[north brook]

Would be better to reroll before anni maybe

[finite scarab]

Should i reroll now instead to farm up pull resources?

[north brook]

Possibly, could try for rapi/swha/crown before anni comes

[swift mango]

Reroll during anni is easier because you got more pull rewarded from creating each account.

Reroll now you don't have that benefit.

[gaunt pulsar]

your pvp is pretty much forever bricked because game only ranks you with players that +- have around the same starting date - so 3y ago, starting fresh means you starting with players that are also new and you all on equal footing, and pvp is like 2000-3000 extra gems each 2 weeks, so it's kinda worth it

[swift mango]

But reroll during anni you also may meet more whale who buy synch level so a harder SpA if you wanted to be competitive

[placid bloom]

if you reroll now you need to pray for better luck cuz you don't start with a lot of pulls per attempt, but your competition gonna be easy too

so if you get insane start you will be so ahead

[north brook]

Ya thats benefit of reroll now

[carmine pond]

Which should I prioritize?

[swift mango]

Depend on you luck, if 4 random whale choice to create an account at exacted time you created your reroll account you are still f.

[north brook]

Still get anni resources when that happens and new anni units

[versed mesa]

I know why no gacha game (that I know of) does it, but I wish they separated people based on if they are F2P or spenders. Though the PvP has other issues anyway, but I think there is stuff to work on if it wasn't a spenders world.

To make it more interesting I mean

[placid bloom]

nah spender will complain if they got no f2p to whoop

[north brook]

Just max dont think

[placid bloom]

game has to be easier for spender, not harder

[carmine pond]

I can only do one right now. That's why I asked about prio

[tight finch]

I started 2nd anni and my bracket top 10s all dolphins and whales

[finite scarab]

All 3 or just one of these?

[north brook]

They about equal, this a newer unit design

So theres not one skill that sucks and u can skip

[versed mesa]

I am aware, have been at game dev conferences, heard Ceos talking about "Milking players for all they are worth." they care about the bottom line, nothing else.

[swift mango]

Well, "dolphin and whale" who only buy skin and pulls are no whale in Arena. Even if they have everyone max core and all the skin in the game, if their synch are the same as mine they are still easily beaten.

[north brook]

One of the big 3 hyper carry units(crown a support) all 3 would be crazy

[versed mesa]

Old game dev teacher who now works at big finnish game company got to go as +1 to a VIP dinner at one. When he came back he told us with such a disgusted look about how many people there were just salivating about making players pay for anything and everything

[finite scarab]

Do i settle for 1 unit then?

[placid bloom]

if you got infinite time to reroll then you can try for triple pilgrim start account

I personally wouldn't keep an account that has less than 2

but that's just me, some people are happy with 1

[finite scarab]

Ive never tried rerolling, how long does it take?

[placid bloom]

if you optimize like 15 min per attempt

maybe less now cuz load screen is faster

[north brook]

Thing is its mostly those 3 or maybe liberalio/sbs/red hood

[tight finch]

I mean I was buying extra cores to try pull ahead and at story jump entire bracket jumped the same
Everyones within 20 sync outside rank1/2 levi's , everyones parked at behe

[north brook]

But ud really want a hyper carry without any rough edges

[finite scarab]

Which hypercarry is hypercurvy?

[placid bloom]

SBS start to fall off a bit at around ch15 from my memory, but I also had to suffer with Tia Naga Cinderella as my starting campaign team

[north brook]

Ya honestly it just matters how far ahead u get in early game, advantages constantly slows after

[finite scarab]

Do i only attempt the first multi pull and move onto the next attempt?

[placid bloom]

nowadays if you don't start with Rapi I think you will just have slow clear tbh

or SWHA

[swift mango]

Anni 2 and behe is actually very normal.

@shell hazel here started anni and cleared up to Ziz.

Penguin is the same and already cleared Ziz.

@hollow lagoon started after 2nd anni and done hard mode 1-2 month ago.

You guy are just normal progression.

[versed mesa]

SBS has been probably my most used campaign unit for the past 20+ chapters. So many stages where her distributed dmg cleans up good

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/MbbvK2Dnkao?si=Op5vhSMT1gmDrKki

[placid bloom]

yeah if I don't build niche unit I think I can pass MC by now

[tropic summit]

and people somehow keeps biting and buying

[placid bloom]

but I build niche unit for SR 3%

[finite scarab]

Do i only attempt the first multi pull and move onto the next reroll attempt?

[placid bloom]

Idk how much gem new player start with

but just use all of them that you got after clear chapter 2 and if you are not happy with the SSR you have then

[hollow lagoon]

[placid bloom]

I think you only need to clear to like 2-3 or something to get all the fast gem, don't remember

[placid bloom]

been forever since I reroll

[versed mesa]

that is a documentary, not a skit

[swift mango]

Maybe worth that price if the skin shaped like a real life size hot succubus.

[tight finch]

Idk majority of low clears are +20sync on me atm, i was in 10 or so lowest mc clears, idk if grinding 40% deficit is normal lol,
I can prob rephrase as less whale more light spending and grinding lol

[versed mesa]

At a certain point the prices go so big, you could just start considering finding a cosplayer who will "hold hands" for payment

[swift mango]

I guess you were just in efficient with spending and level up. @shell hazel and Penguin only bought monthly resources too. And not other resources bundles

[keen vapor]

@cerulean flume I'm betting on you

[swift mango]

Anyway, what's your synch level?

[tight finch]

I afk from sb collab for 3 months and used those 3 months of resources on moran rosa nero
Majority i see around same brackets are all 460-480

For comparison tho brackets just after anni are all afk at 25 hard for sake of comparing anni vs non anni

[swift mango]

Stop for 3 months? Then you are just bricked.

Fyi, Hippo and penguin are around 561 and start during 2nd Anni, only grind and buy monthly resources patch. And not every month.

[upper grove]

penguin started a bit earlier than me though and I started during EVA 1.0

[swift mango]

He said he started during 2.0 Anni himself.

[tight finch]

Our leviathan is only 557 🤔
Started pre 2.0

[swift mango]

Starting date he showed on October-november

[upper grove]

huh I remember otherwise let's summon and ask again, I'm just curious @vapid lake

[tight finch]

3 months of dailys but not playing, just collecting rsources that went into pvp

[swift mango]

Doubt he is Leviathan.

@hollow lagoon here started after anni 2.0 and already 641+. There are even few whales bigger than him near his spa bracket and CA

[swift mango]

Hmmm, guess you are probably just not efficient with level up. If you bought only resources and still 460.

[cerulean flume]

Wait I won??

[keen vapor]

People is believing on you

You'll tell me

[tight finch]

I mean i cant judge how he spent resources but hes like ch 42 + max core everything, jumping like 10+ sync a week

I def didn't minmax first 6 months of play tho

[cerulean flume]

LMAO, last bracket it was like 80% my opponent

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

I mean you not him.

And if he jumped 10 level a week he should be max level right now at 1000+ and can't jump anymore.

[gritty ridge]

Why you bronze now

[cerulean flume]

We’re twins now

[keen vapor]

Espirus is MA?

[cerulean flume]

[keen vapor]

Inactive due to work

[gritty ridge]

Kids these days

[keen vapor]

I'm so inactive I have memory loss sorry

[gritty ridge]

Quit your job and become full time MA

[cerulean flume]

[swift mango]

💩 color twin.

[gritty ridge]

Also, is that rosy?

If not I have no clue who this is

[cerulean flume]

:deme:

I’m not rosy

[keen vapor]

I can't live from selling merch, specially bc I like it

[cerulean flume]

I’m a #question resident

[gritty ridge]

Ah I dont go in there

I only come in here to harass rail

[swift mango]

#nikke MA. AKA chatter box MA.

[keen vapor]

So basically, I keep all my merch

[swift mango]

Now show us your merches

@strong hull show us your merch

@umbral crown show us ur merch

[keen vapor]

He's always rookie, he doesn't receives merch

[swift mango]

Rookie doesn't?

[keen vapor]

Same with him.... Which is sad, he would like it

[swift mango]

Then what the point of getting this poop color for?

[keen vapor]

Imagine giving merch to inactive people

Well, not all rookies are really inactive iirc

[swift mango]

@tropic summit please apply for MA, you are our Arena chat only chance of getting Merch.

[keen vapor]

He never listened

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

yes, i should help more

[tropic summit]

you already got @umbral crown

[lone sequoia]

echo doesn't get merch?

[swift mango]

Read back chat, poop colored doesn't get merch

[lone sequoia]

i will probably have to change my DEF teams

[tropic summit]

just make Rosy and Echo work, easy

[lone sequoia]

got another gemmer that jumped to 681+

[tropic summit]

and lmao "poop colored"...

[covert lintel]

But nayu's hand appears at 1:24 that means it's still around 4rl

[tropic summit]

if only it counted as a job

[lone sequoia]

pvp channel slave

[swift mango]

That's b2 already not 1.

[covert lintel]

Yes, 4rl b1 is at 1:25 right?

[swift mango]

Your normal contribution should be enough for you to be promoted from poop color

[lone sequoia]

CA time?

[covert lintel]

Iirc b1 3rl start at 1:26

[forest zodiac]

is this possible to do considering +30 lvls?

[swift mango]

Idk, their team still at 5/9 when Nayuta hit. Could be 3rl I guess.

[tropic summit]

levels don't matter, if you're in deficit or not does

[lone sequoia]

if you are in cp range, you can win any match, if your are in deficit depends in the enemy teams

[shell hazel]

there are 4 other people in my SPA who have cleared 38+ hard mode, highest is with me stuck at ziz/40 @tight finch

we're in the range of 501 - 552

I'm 525 atm

[tropic summit]

@swift mango we realistically can clear HM once we hit 581-601 from what i gathered

[shell hazel]

this is from cindy/anni 2.0

[swift mango]

Ofc

[undone blaze]

If Noise taunts the enemy and she's on P2, once the taunt wears off does the enemy go back to P1 or stay on her till she dies? Once she dies do the enemy then go back to P1 or P3?

[lone sequoia]

noire taunt?

[undone blaze]

Noise*

[tropic summit]

you say ofc but i still see you stuck

[tight finch]

Maybe im in slacker brackets, i skimmed my ca block and most peak at 540 for the whales with couple of outliers that are 100 servers early 600+,
Some guys 701 cleared the game

[swift mango]

Do you see my synch level ?

[lone sequoia]

depends on the unit/class/weapon (ammo) she will probably get the aggro until the unit reload or a different unit have attract or taunt, some units have stats priority for normal attacks

[forest zodiac]

does rapu even does something here?

[tropic summit]

check CP with these

[tropic summit]

didn't you open boxes?

[swift mango]

You could actually get to 561 next month

[shell hazel]

no I think it will take a bit longer

[swift mango]

I can't get to 581 now