pvp-arena

[oak hatch]

Wouldn’t go as far to say they’re dubious, they provide some good beginners guide and general kit knowledge for each character but yeah when in doubt can always ask around

Better to have some resource than no resource before building a character

[atomic wolf]

@tropic summit i need you

[eager brook]

How comes having more ammo on Scarlet makes her more susceptible to Siren's stun?

[quick lake]

Railtracer MIA we miss you Rail. Just come and yap and dont cook

Blood used to cook 24/7 and now he just yaps

[quick lake]

32 or less ammo, Scarlet is safe
iirc Siren stuns when she shoots her 60th MG shot. This aligns with Scarlet’s 32 AR shot. Scarlet goes into cover for reload, Stun is whiffed as Siren’s shot hit the cover

[thin geyser]

Does Siren always targetting scarlet?

[glad meteor]

Rail has moved on

[wind kelp]

1st; Rumani, vesti, noah, RH, laplaceT
2nd: Moran, trina, Bae, scarletB, Anis
3rd; jaskal, siren, scarlet, centi, helm

If you got an extra attempt to waste on "i dunno, maybe" 😄

[gaunt pulsar]

siren targets position 1, unless she is taunted to a different position, so yes alot of times it's scarlet that is there instead of other unit

[thin geyser]

ahh icic, okay

[atomic wolf]

i loved that team 1 never gets to burst because they're already dead

[misty finch]

This anti swear filter is putting in a lot of work right now…

So it’s 20-32 actual bullets not ammo%???

[tiny scroll]

Correct. One ammo roll of 60.71% should get you to 32.

[misty finch]

Is 27% ammo% fine

[tiny scroll]

From what I understand the closer to 32 the better, without going over.

[quick lake]

Yes. As long as Scarlet’s total ammo is 20-32

[tiny scroll]

Go into the shooting range with your scarlet and check what her ammo is.

Fastest way to check.

[quick lake]

Ideally is 30-32, because every 10 bullets scarlet get 20% atk from her s1

Can go blabla to check the ammo count as well

[rich quail]

I can confirm 60.71% is exactly 32 bullets. That’s what I currently have

Don’t use Bastion Cube

[wind kelp]

Well i did say "dunno" 😄

[rich quail]

5 min til NY presentation

[atomic wolf]

well then help if you know how pvp works buddy

[rich quail]

Gimme Nero treasure for pvp pls Shifty Up

[atomic wolf]

yeah there is no god

[wind kelp]

That's why i said "i dunno, maybe". I am what you'd csll a shot in the dark cook.

[misty finch]

I'm not bothered to spend more rocks 😔

But that does make sence

[quick lake]

omfg stream!

forget bout it

[atomic wolf]

tldr me

[rich quail]

2 min

[quick lake]

New Collab

[radiant coral]

damn. I believe in emma propaganda now with that new costume

[spiral onyx]

The "Lock On" effect could be interesting if it applies in PvP and makes SWHA's autos become AoE

Would also give her bonus burst gen, but we'll seee

[thin geyser]

Somehow it's always noah that got stunned, not scarlet. Is that because of noah taunt?

[thin geyser]

Waaa new year unit ya?

[spiral onyx]

yes

[quick lake]

Yes it is

[thin geyser]

I thought it's gonna be Anis

[rich quail]

Prolly next 1/2 anni

[ivory violet]

In the stream they said we'd get her 2026

[gaunt pulsar]

yes, when noah/noise shooting their attacks taunt all units they hit, even outside of burst
in this case if enemy has siren or soda in p1 or p2 your noah will taunt them no matter where she stands because she hits them. if siren was in p3>p5 she would reserve to her usual targeting and only stun p1, and if there no taunter she would obv only stun p1 again, if p1 dead she stuns p2> etc.

[thin geyser]

Ahh icic. So enemy siren position also matters >.<

I thought I was gonna bait siren to stun scarlet so noah can burst and end up with liberio burst.
That's why it's never happened

[keen vapor]

WHY SHE'S VESTI THE BESTIE 2.0

[quick lake]

Idk how her 10x targeting works

[keen vapor]

Charge time is 3.2 seconds on burst even

[quick lake]

Both Noise and Noah taunts. So their projectile will hit P1 and splash onto P2. So P1 and P2 is taunted and will affect any mechanism eg Siren/Soda stun, Rosanna nuke, Helm nuke etc

[gaunt pulsar]

you can taunt bait with noise+noah, if noah has more cs than noise then she will have taunt priority because she will shoot after noah, that is if you still want to burst with noah*

[spiral onyx]

Id assume you'd not want to use her for Burst though, just as another AoE DPS like VestiT and Emilia

[keen vapor]

Yeh

[thin geyser]

By "she will have taunt priorities" you meant noise will have taunt priorities, right? So whoever with less CS has taunt priorities?

[quick lake]

We’ll have to test her on pvp

[spiral onyx]

if she even targets 3 units in PvP, if she can match Laplace's burst gen I'm slotting her in

[pastel owl]

seems a continuous aoe, the multiplier feels smol

s1 reads like she'll target all five

[spiral onyx]

69.04% x 250% + 41.9% + 105.59% = 320.09% atk to 3-5 targets every 1.2s is pretty good

[gaunt pulsar]

yes

[pastel owl]

i think its 105.59% x 5 sequential

per normal shot

maybe not, dunno how that ammo work

[spiral onyx]

In comparison, Emilia does 61.3% x (250% + 6 * 2.01%) x 158.99% = 255% atk to 3 targets

[covert lintel]

Is cs stat useless for new SW?

[glad meteor]

Just get enemy rosa to dispel sw so cs buffs work

[quick lake]

useless i thinm. Fixed cs

just 4 ele 4atk easy

[covert lintel]

But it doesn't matter, she'll be rosanna food

[spiral onyx]

VestiT does 22.44% x 200% + 266.6% = 311.48% but her charge time is 2, but then she fires off 3 more shots right after

so SWHA's auto attack damage should definitely be pretty decent, but only meaningful if the lock-on affects 3 or more units

otherwise you're probably still better off running Laplace+

[tulip quest]

So Lib has Immune to increase and decrease charge speed

[spiral onyx]

Laplace+: 63.13% x 250% + 132.45% = 290.27%

[tulip quest]

but SW Heavy Arms don't have Immune to CS Up and Down does it mean we can build her with CS?

[spiral onyx]

Fixed to 1.2s

I also missed the +48.84% atk part

[tulip quest]

Oh same with Immune word with Lib?

[spiral onyx]

so actually SW's autos will do more than Laplace+'s if its only 2 targets and much more than Emilia and VestiT's if its 3+ targets

[spiral onyx]

■ Activates at the start of battle. Affects self.

Gains immunity to Increase Charge Speed effects continuously. This effect cannot be dispelled.

Gains immunity to Decrease Charge Speed effects continuously. This effect cannot be dispelled.

No, its different wording

probably means it can be dispelled lol

[gaunt pulsar]

Lib s2 charge time shenanigan's come into play when she facing raptures, so she is always at her base charge speed, SW has fixed charge speed all the time

[spiral onyx]

so if you really want to roll charge speed lines so that she can charge faster against Rosanna teams...

[tulip quest]

It would be funny vs Rossana if u build her WITH CS% LOL

Rossana: Let me dispel ur DEBUFF

[spiral onyx]

but yeah, whether or not she gets used in my CA teams will depend heavily on her burst gen

[gaunt pulsar]

SW is like nayuta burst, fixed 1.8, and cs doesn't affect it, for sw it's 1.2 though

[tulip quest]

True

[spiral onyx]

and burst gen will also depend on how many targets she hits

[keen vapor]

Rapunzel alt first good dispell unit?

[tulip quest]

I think this 2 uses LOCK ON DOES A.I Even know how to Utilize these type of skills?

[spiral onyx]

I dont see any dispell in Rapunzel Pure Grace's kit...

[keen vapor]

I meant next alt

[spiral onyx]

oh lol

she didnt get blown up so dont see why she'd get a rebuild

Noah 2.0 will save PvP, trust

[tulip quest]

5 seconds IMMUNE THIS TIME TRUST

[keen vapor]

5 anni

[quick lake]

Noah alt?

[tulip quest]

A little bit later in story dunno how long tho

[spiral onyx]

Remember, SRs have double the burst gen as RLs. Except RLs hit 4 targets (2 unit + 2 cover). But SW also gets pierce, so her hits will also hit both the unit + cover + unit again + unit again. So her default burst gen should be the same as a RL's against 1 target. But if she hits 2 or more targets, she'll be more. My hope is she ends up clip RL level

[keen vapor]

Of the injured ones she's the one at a worst state

[keen vapor]

Vesti 3.0

[raven plover]

the weird ass 45% def on her gonna save her from nuke trust

🗣️

[keen vapor]

[tulip quest]

So she's Either RH level or higher burst gen because of that weird lock on mechanic

[quick lake]

4x def OL build

[raven plover]

idk why they give her that

[quick lake]

As a P1 Tank surely

[raven plover]

secret strat

[glad meteor]

Ez healerless in sr surely

That dmg taken debuff also looks strong for strengthening pre burst dmg

[gaunt pulsar]

doesn't says it stacks so should be just 4%

[glad meteor]

Was too good to be true

[spiral onyx]

if only it were multiplicative

[tulip quest]

GUYS

LOCK ON

[gaunt pulsar]

she looks very much like Libe pre burst, locks on 1 target, loads 5 ammo, 1.2s pass > full charge happens, 5 targets get hit for 41,9% and locked on target gets hit for 105,59%x5 , so maybe slightly more gen than libe due to 5 target hit?

[tulip quest]

ACTIVATES every 0.2 sec while charging in 1 sec she has 5 lock-on targets

Hits 5 characters in 1 seconds?

[quick lake]

kinda stonks imo

[glad meteor]

Rheax going to c7

[quick lake]

no tickets

[glad meteor]

Going to swipe to c7 like @umbral belfry

[tulip quest]

So if my what I read is right and how I understand it she hits 5 characters in 1second 1.2 sec to hit

Emilia but hits 5

[gaunt pulsar]

in pvp she gonna target 1, locked on condition is mainly for pve so you could drag your mouse like crazy and select multiple enemies, for pvp she just gonna target 1 target deal dmg with 1st condition to 5 and shoot x5 times to locked one(like libe)

maybe i'm wrong but thats how i read it

[tulip quest]

man now im confused

[quick lake]

oh damn, i think SW is actually clipRL burst gen

[tulip quest]

I guess will find out tommorow

her mechanics and burst gen

I'm really curious about this lock-on mechanic half confusing I just tried to understand welp I tried might be right might be wrong

[gaunt pulsar]

yeah it's hard to tell even from videos
actually might be this happening:
lock on> charges charge shot>loads 5 ammo(you can watch preview videos where she has mouse on 1 rapture)> due to skill1 having "affects the enemy unit nearest to crosshair that is not in lock-on status" condition she actually locks on 5 targets no matter where they are just because she cannot lock on on the same target twice?(seems so from video) > charge shot happens > target gets hit and rockets and lazers shoot to all other targets so effect 1 hits all for 41,9% and effect 2 hits 5 for 105,59% each + main target gets affected by SR shot? something like this

[quick lake]

Yeah, sounds about it

[spiral onyx]

You're an hour 20mins late lol

[spiral onyx]

There's no point trying to understand inconsistent wording that's also often poorly translated lol. Just have to test it out in-game

[tulip quest]

Yea pretty fun tho we do this kinda stuff pve related on our Union

[spiral onyx]

SR is going to be water, so she's probably guaranteed to be strong for it lol

[tulip quest]

Yea gotta high light the new Pick up

[umbral belfry]

am f2p

[umbral belfry]

wait rhe update is TOMORROW??

[quick lake]

yesh

[gaunt pulsar]

<t:1767085200:R> *

[shell hazel]

Expected maintenance duration: 11:00:00 – 18:00:00, December 30, 2025 (UTC +9)

note that you have to wait until here to pull for SW
Special Recruit duration: From 00:00:00, January 1, 2026 to 4:59:59, January 22, 2026 (UTC+9)

so that is basically in 2 days and a bit from now

[gaunt pulsar]

at least my helm treasure right away trmw

[raven plover]

time to be rank 1

[gaunt pulsar]

with 60 lvl gap sure

[raven plover]

doable

[swift mango]

@gritty ridge Be a big boy and help a big boy out.

[swift mango]

You could hit him but can't def

[gaunt pulsar]

yeah, i guess not impossible to hit, but not gonna hold, still the plan is to secure 3 or 4 first

[swift mango]

SW looks like Vesti 2.0

[keen vapor]

Hifumi

[shell hazel]

vesti often a bit meh on bossing though, I think SW should be better here

[swift mango]

Who cares about bossing, this is Arena chat.

[shell hazel]

@swift mango you can get rapu now but you gotta pay to do it lol :9

you're f2p right? like actual f2p not like Hime f2p

[swift mango]

Well, buying that is within my budget but I won't.

Yeah, I F2P.

Not btw

Spending makes it feel bad to quit.

[shell hazel]

we don't know yet how much it will cost or what else it comes with. It sounds like it's a new type of recruitment ticket we didn't have yet

yup very true - I plan to keep going but always if I did quit it's a factor that I've spent money lol 😄

[swift mango]

Similar to the selector and paid pull we already have ofc...

🧱

[shell hazel]

well it sounds like you need to buy 10 tickets as they say each one not used is refunded for 3000 gems

which in my opinion means they may value 10 tickets at a similar level to 30000 gems, whatever that costs

which is way too much lol, I reckon that pack to do anything isn't going to be cheap though

[swift mango]

They valued it as 3000 gems ofc.

[swift mango]

One voucher is equal to 10 pulls,

[swift mango]

10 voucher is 100 pulls,

[shell hazel]

I see, but it would be dumb to buy them and not use then 😄

in any case, the pack won't be free, depends how much it costs

we don't have it in the game yet to check

if it's the $20 would you say it's worth it for your missing rapu?

[swift mango]

And there is no guarantee you would ever get the one you want from those recruits

Pay for 1000 pulls and get 100 harran.

[shell hazel]

I thought it was a selection thing

if it's RNG then even more lol

it looked to me like you could pick the one you wanted

[swift mango]

They never said you could pick one.

Lobby Screen to 10 is the only game changer in new year.

[shell hazel]

this looks like a single selection is made

new ticket type

[swift mango]

Then that's selector yeah.

[shell hazel]

blurry af lol

[swift mango]

rapu should be available for 200 gold ticket on half anniversary anyway

4 rocks to reroll attribute

Ele refuse to rise up. But it's fine.

[shell hazel]

hmmm I don't know that she will be?

[swift mango]

Sooner or later

[shell hazel]

did we have a re-run last half anni? I feel like we didn't as it would have been crown

[swift mango]

We probably get 3 pilgrims every anni now

[shell hazel]

doro/mod/rh were on mileage when their banner was up

[swift mango]

Rerun

[shell hazel]

so if they do that for rapu then it's possible you can mileage her sometime

she may otherwise randomly show up for you one day out of the blue lol

[swift mango]

Fire Solo raid -10000

I basically exchanged Ele for ATK with these 2.

CP is about the same but Fire Ele raid gonna take a hit.

[shell hazel]

line 1 black atk ;9

[swift mango]

Better than black hit rate

[shell hazel]

adding other lines is pain though

I'm keeping my rocks atm for SW I have almost 60

[swift mango]

I'm not adding, maybe I would try to get 2 random lines 2+3 but even that is expensive.

[shell hazel]

I hope we get treasure details soon because I need to know if I can build other stuff or if I should keep my materials for treasures :9

[swift mango]

My best score at the end of the event.

Could have gotten 134 if I did 8+1+1 instead of 9+1

[shell hazel]

I was like 92K and 13th or something lol

wasn't my fav game to play so I did the minimum more or less

[swift mango]

someone from Philippine is trying to steal my google account.

[shell hazel]

surprised they even bother if you have MFA enabled

[swift mango]

They tried to change my recovery phone number and I denied.

Then I opened my Google account and realized the recovery phone number I had was outdate from 14 years ago.

[shell hazel]

they may be in your account already then to do that? did you lock down the access so MFA was needed to access it?

[swift mango]

Probably not. I only log in with password

That I haven't changed for 14 years

[shell hazel]

well that isn't the best lol

[swift mango]

The only thing valuable in my Google account was linking to games account and the hundreds of short story I wrote down from my dreams.

[shell hazel]

sign in to any google thing like gmail then go top right and click your username/icon, manage my google account link

under security and sign-in enable 2-step verification stuff

if you don't enable it an attacker could enable it and point it to their own stuff

[gaunt pulsar]

can also just check what devices are in your account, if there anything not yours can log them off

[shell hazel]

if you use it for anything else then they could in theory reset other passwords and misdirect the emails

setup rules and such to copy the emails elsewhere etc

emails and financial stuff I always want to lock down with MFA as it gives so much access to stuff

[swift mango]

Maybe they wanted my ended game war games account or my other end game account then.

Okay my Google account also linked to my bank account.

But my bank account log in using phone anyway.

Same to my shopping accounts, they all log in with phone.

[swift mango]

I just add my phone number to my main Google account log in.

[shell hazel]

should check devices as well like Lomarion said, it's in the same area

can yeet off anything you don't recognise so they don't have an open session/token

otherwise if something was connected before it could have a pre-authorised token

[swift mango]

It's all in my region now not Philippines. So not sure.

[ripe aurora]

Well, you'd be surprised how much someone can gather for social engineering vector attacks just from access to Gmail alone. So you're better enable 2fa on each and every important account that you have linked to that mail

[shell hazel]

phone mfa is better than nothing but I tend to prefer totp via google authenticator app or microsoft authenticator apps on my phone

sms can be hijacked unlikely but not impossible

[swift mango]

Maybe time to change my password

[ripe aurora]

I'd say purge everything and migrate to a totally new mail account. With proper mfa and strong unique password.

[shell hazel]

I use a password manager as well random af passwords for everything, easy to fall into the trap otherwise of setting same pw for all accounts

put your email address into https://haveibeenpwned.com/ it will show if you're in any breaches

[ripe aurora]

Long phrases also are a better password than symbols and numbers if the site allows it.

And easier to remember

[shell hazel]

it's a bit lazy but with password manager I just need to remember one password 😄

[ripe aurora]

Also funny how le*k is a banned word. Come on that's janitor behavior

[shell hazel]

the one to get into it, ofc if that gets stolen then I'm a bit doomed 😄

[swift mango]

Wow they turn off my phone verification somehow so I just changed password and turned it on... There was 1 sus phone I don't recognize so I yeeted it off.

[ripe aurora]

Use bitwarden - you can airgap it. I use bitwarden vault set up on my home Nas. - can be accessed only from my local network.

[swift mango]

It wrote "first log in 20 mins ago" ago too.

[shell hazel]

nice work, keep an eye on it for a bit in case they try anything funny

[shell hazel]

guess it still syncs a cache you can use elsewhere? I currently use last pass as we get a sub for it with work that I can use for my personal account

it's less secure probably but it's always available, just have to make sure no one steals my main password for it

[swift mango]

I set like 5 password for all accounts and sometime I forgot them.

Nah, not setting more

[shell hazel]

the point of a password manager is you don't know them in your head, you just set them in a database and then reference when needed

it means all new one are random as well

[swift mango]

Then that manager got lost.b

[shell hazel]

if you can't or won't do that then MFA at least on top is still best

so they need more than just valid pw to work

[ripe aurora]

Well last pass has been compromised not once, not twice but three times (that we know of)
Bitwarden is cloudless self hosted solution. If you want it to be.
Vault kept locally on your devices and isn't uploaded anywhere.
My Nas just acts like a sync beacon.

[shell hazel]

as with anything like this it's security vs usability

[shell hazel]

yeah I am aware it's a bit of a joke at this point haha. Still - mostly I also back this with MFA being needed

I have a NAS it's a synology, I definitely could set something like this up if I wanted to

kind of crazy though I got it 10 years ago and it's still kind of fine

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

oh they made it so the new ones only work with Synology drives now I think, for the + series. I'm not sure what I'll do when I eventually want to replace it

[swift mango]

Is this just me? It's weird but it's synch in along side my phone

[placid bloom]

wtf this pilgrim selector not free

guess me stay Noahless

[hybrid fox]

so close

[umbral crown]

Cookig

[hybrid fox]

@swift mango mihaha dead + cindy not enough damage team 1 lose
did u uhhhhhhhhhhh figure any other way to beat them my friend

[hybrid fox]

attacked

[shell hazel]

hmm unclear but could be the case if you run some kind of emulation?

[swift mango]

Stay Arena 🧱

[shell hazel]

I had some entries for when I was using bluestacks

or whichever android emulator I was using

[swift mango]

Not right now

[ripe aurora]

No longer necessary since dsm 7.3
They backed out of that silly (immensely stupid) decision

[shell hazel]

good. I usually shuck drives out of the usb enclosures lol

[swift mango]

Moran+Rumani+Bay+Vesti+Ada
For the Cindy team.

[shell hazel]

or some app on your phone is acting like an emulator of sorts and is using your google account but not directly?

[swift mango]

Not sure

I log it off

[strange linden]

I really wish we could see how we're losing in SP, I have no idea what to change to fix it (not that I think it'll matter )

[shell hazel]

I actually have a ton of drives I need to sell :9

[swift mango]

Record the fight.

[ripe aurora]

I think he means the being attacked side of things

I would also like the ability to view how match went when someone attacks me in rookie or spa

[hybrid fox]

Ada, I will try

[swift mango]

Could just scar jack team Cindy too but be careful Cindy got countered to trigger biscuit.

Moran+Bay+Siren+Vesti+HelmT is fine too.

[shell hazel]

@ripe aurora some hard drives sat around

[ripe aurora]

Hm

What's the total?

[shell hazel]

that is 17 drives, I have 9 more downstairs. mostly 16 or 18Tb

so 28 x 16 or so

[ripe aurora]

That's a lot of homework

[shell hazel]

there's 8 x 16tb in my NAS as well on top

easy half a pb or so 😄

[ripe aurora]

So probably barely enough to download most of Ark survival evolved assets on steam.
Cool.

[shell hazel]

I was using them to mine chia with but it's all kind of died and no longer worth the power cost

even on solar power helping to cover costs not really worth running so many

[ripe aurora]

Huh, Chia. Now that takes me back.

[shell hazel]

did you mine some?

[ripe aurora]

Nah.
It was hyper sketch, I remember people hating on Chia miners since hdd prices skyrocketed for a few months

[shell hazel]

oh yeah it did lol the netspace was very high it's died down a lot by now

[ripe aurora]

My home NAS is much more modest, probably around 50TB total.

[shell hazel]

the netspace in EiB - slowly dwindling off

I started near the beginning was like 1

mostly gone now I still have some plots running on my NAS which is on anyway. eventually that will likely die as they're changing format

[hollow lagoon]

wtf is with that sw kit

[shell hazel]

it's 3 pages get to work!

[hollow lagoon]

All I know is no CS

[ripe aurora]

No manual play for once

[placid bloom]

Lib not manual either

[hollow lagoon]

Lib ain’t manual play either

[placid bloom]

No more manual SR

[hollow lagoon]

Thank the lord

Spamming shots hurts my wrist

[ripe aurora]

Water code though, yay

[shell hazel]

you getting alice skin zanta?

I got her normal pass one so I'll skip I reckon

[hollow lagoon]

I’m debating if she’s legal

[ripe aurora]

Mind of a child, no?

[shell hazel]

the helm one is good, I'm skipping as I got her gacha one

[hollow lagoon]

Hence not

[shell hazel]

but if I didn't I'd get it

[hollow lagoon]

What helm one?

The dress?

[shell hazel]

her normal dress one

[hollow lagoon]

Oh

[shell hazel]

yeah, it looks great one of the best ones

[hollow lagoon]

That one idk, I might get Alice one for resource

[shell hazel]

but I won't use it over her gacha so I'll save $20

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t have skin for Alice

Not that I use her much

[shell hazel]

likely I'll just pull for SW and get the two pass skins (I usually get these for the tickets)

gacha can stay put

[hollow lagoon]

Cancer af clicking and I ain’t even good at it

[shell hazel]

no I know but I was forced into it on some raids like the last one was my best remaining dps 😄

[hollow lagoon]

I didn’t even use Alice last raid

[swift mango]

Kids grow up in games like Arknight. But not in game like Nike and Azur Lane.

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

U know

Eve looks great in Alice’s suit

[shell hazel]

that's my main drive tbh, it's 4 x 16 in Syno hybrid raid which is basically same as raid 5

so 3 x 16 usable

[swift mango]

Everyone looks good in Alice suit.

[hollow lagoon]

Anderson would look good for sure

[shell hazel]

zanta with only 1 unit to build and no treasure info I may actually be able to invest a bit into my quency or xlud for the next raid

[hollow lagoon]

My Xlud and Qeq is decent ish

[shell hazel]

dolls? prob not, but skills and overloads maybe a little

[hollow lagoon]

They are like 2-3ele roll? And 1-2 atk roll =very good

[shell hazel]

I'd just add a rock initially but it's better than my current totally missing rolls

[hollow lagoon]

Oh wait Qeq has no atk roll but she self stack anyway

[umbral crown]

Indom vesti and noah 2 rl

Also siren to stun noah p1

[hollow lagoon]

What I need for water raids I feel is prob like seleeg and xguillo

But I have no resource and I only got 20 rocks to roll sw

[shell hazel]

I'd have to wait on those, qeq and xlud prio for me

don't think I could even attempt any extras, not sure I could base OL all 3

[hollow lagoon]

My helm is still only 2 ele but 2 ele is good nuff in my book anyway

[shell hazel]

I think I'd also want to treasure miranda for her unique type of thing

[hollow lagoon]

Miranda treasure is one of thous things I feel I wasted a lot of resources on for a damage loss

[shell hazel]

yeah it didn't seem to work well for you haha

but a wildcard I could find useful, at least her personal rolls didn't seem to matter too much? main thing is her doll level and one of her skills

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t think she’s useful in any capacity

[shell hazel]

the top players all seem to run her with something

[hollow lagoon]

Supermaldy to play and I lose 1+billion dmg

Top players are never running the best comps

Give me their account I’ll show u dmg

[shell hazel]

I'd be interested to see that

like legit - just unlikely you'll get the login details from the top players 😄

[hollow lagoon]

It’s not hard u stack the multipliers

[shell hazel]

I need to ol and doll my supports still

[hollow lagoon]

U just play this game like ur doing a PoE build and damage comes out

[shell hazel]

my b.ade sat on no doll and no overloads for example., it's sad

same for my dkw

[hollow lagoon]

B Ade don’t need overloads much

[shell hazel]

nah but even just adding some helps, think some of her stuff scales off her own stats a bit

[hollow lagoon]

My bade is like 7/7/10

[hollow lagoon]

Only skill 1 and it’s a smallllllllll boost

[shell hazel]

main one is built dps though usually but if I run the supports on every raid they should be OK spec

[hollow lagoon]

Idk man my mast maid is finally 10/10/10

I finally caught up to u

[swift mango]

Ofc yes.

[shell hazel]

you overtook me my anchor is only 7/7/7

[hollow lagoon]

U don’t love the smol maid u evil big booba loving person

What has anchor done to u to deserves that neglect

[shell hazel]

not bribed SU into giving me enough skill books

how much do I need to 10/10/10 SW I wonder? I should work it out

[hollow lagoon]

The end is nigh Lel

[swift mango]

She needs to grow more boobs.

[swift mango]

Not enough to make her D cup

[hollow lagoon]

I like b-c cups tbh

Like fish

[shell hazel]

does anyone know how many skill/burst books we need to 10/10/10 SW day 1?

[hollow lagoon]

A lot

[swift mango]

2000-1000

[shell hazel]

maybe I should ask this in team building channel for an exact answer but it's scary leaving pvp channel 🙁

[swift mango]

Google it

[hollow lagoon]

1440

For the elemental ones

[shell hazel]

nah not those I was as worried about lol

[hollow lagoon]

Thous are the ones I worry about

U can find out the rest in the union discord anyway

Oh wait ur not one of mine

When will the gaslighting stop? You ask? Maybe 2028

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

Mm I have enough of the regular stuff

It’s always the elemental code ones

[placid bloom]

okay I finally checked the SW kit, is she not just Eve with pierce

[hollow lagoon]

She’s like

Combining lib and smal white kind of deal I feel

Hord killing and single target depending on her state?

[placid bloom]

nah it's not like Lib

cuz her proc split between enemies instead of hitting 1

it's more like Eve

[hollow lagoon]

Lib chargespeed is faster on non boss

Kinda of a similar deal

[placid bloom]

it's just Eve but with pierce

well proc faster than Eve

[hollow lagoon]

I didn’t invest Eve yet

[shell hazel]

2100 blues/ 1550 purples / 630 gold (skill manuals)
1050 blues/ 775 purples/ 315 gold (burst manuals)

it's this or the great answers we got from @gritty ridge

[gritty ridge]

[shell hazel]

or the even better answer we got from @bleak shale

[bleak shale]

hi

[shell hazel]

I await the video of bigboi getting to 10/10/10 with 7 skill books :p

[bleak shale]

im not wrong doe

[placid bloom]

it's like if Eve had Lib proc speed but with pierce

[hollow lagoon]

We’lll see

[bleak shale]

shes not eve with pierce

[shell hazel]

you gotta be more accurate, preciseness matters sir!

[hollow lagoon]

I’ll 8/8/8 sw

[bleak shale]

or do u mean for pvp

[hollow lagoon]

Cuz that’s all I got

[bleak shale]

cuz for pvp its very much not eve with pierce

[placid bloom]

her proc is 2 part no? 1 hits each enemy once, and then one is sequential

which is basically Eve proc

[bleak shale]

yea but eve is random target shes spread across the team

[gritty ridge]

Is she gonna be vesti pt 2 or niche b3

[bleak shale]

its always 3x per unit during burst hits

on the sequential hits

[shell hazel]

ok I can't quite 10/10/10 day 1 but not miles off, got a few more days + reset on overclock today at reset so I think it's possible I will do soon

[gritty ridge]

I was really hoping it wouldnt be a pvp new years

[bleak shale]

also her gen should be decent cuz its 6x some value of sniper

for only .2s longer charge

[hollow lagoon]

Shiet

Lib power creep

[shell hazel]

well at least it's a unit you prob build for pve anyway

[placid bloom]

more than 6x, she sniper shot already hit 5 target and the proc hit 5 target + 5 extra shot no?

[shell hazel]

better than niche pvp only scenario that needs max invest

[placid bloom]

[bleak shale]

lib is nuker, sw is prob closer to vesti but less offburst

[placid bloom]

this is like what Cinderella should have been

[bleak shale]

yes, we will see what SU does to her burst gen base tho

[placid bloom]

instead of that peepee single target laser

[hollow lagoon]

Cindy done so dirty

still love her tho

[placid bloom]

she was supposed to be artillery

and she's not

[oak hatch]

@ripe aurora oh wow the new unit is water dps, we can both get through nihilister and I can also beat black snake then hopefully

[bleak shale]

the real question

is does her dmg go after noah

if only i had a sheet that would tell me the delays

[ripe aurora]

Yeah.
Good thing I haven't started on Doro yet

[placid bloom]

should be yeah

[swift mango]

My 3 Ele 3 atk Rossanna finally can shine. Maybe I would make her 4 Ele.

[shell hazel]

I build my s.doro some anyway as I think she's still great regardless

[placid bloom]

cuz Noah cast at 3.5s into the fight if it's 2RL, B3 cast at closer to 4s and then +3.2s charge time

[bleak shale]

noah shield has a delayed application i forget how long

[hollow lagoon]

My sdoro is 2 atk 3 ele she’s already good

[bleak shale]

i think it was only a few frames tho

[swift mango]

Let's see if any SW can survive my Rosa.

[ripe aurora]

Obviously I will build s. Doro too but damn, snow white should be stronger

[shell hazel]

my s.doro needs a lot of work :9

[placid bloom]

yeah but it's not slow enough to be before B3 cast, otherwise Scar could land before Noah

cuz Scar is almost frame perfect or something

[oak hatch]

Can’t believe sdoro might get powercrept so soon

[hollow lagoon]

Your a lot of work Prob is 4 ele just not black lines

[bleak shale]

yea probably good enough to get past shield then, maybe emilia power creep

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

lol no, my s.doro really not had much

[bleak shale]

[hollow lagoon]

Su needs to make Cindy great again

[swift mango]

Vesti is already Emi powercreep but Emi has her burst gen.

[placid bloom]

Emilia don't have self steroid right

SW by herself already like +70 Atk and 80 atk dmg

[bleak shale]

sw has 5 hits + 5 +1 with a sniper

im just waiting to see how much her sniper's gen is

[hollow lagoon]

Sw scales with damage taken supports then, job for ninja delta/xlude

[placid bloom]

oh I guess her proc don't get pierce, only her SR shot

[shell hazel]

I think I just rolled her to have some ele @hollow lagoon she's missing other good stats

[hollow lagoon]

Shows me a3 ele sdoro while I craw in 1 ele

Wait I think I fixed her

[shell hazel]

sounds like a skill issue

[swift mango]

any burst gen that's not 2rl or 2.5RL SG speed is useless.

[bleak shale]

even if u shoot once

[placid bloom]

maybe it's time to run Crown Delta for Harvester no more annoying Helm timing

[bleak shale]

thats 11 hits before 2rl??

[hollow lagoon]

[bleak shale]

it really just depends what her base gen is

[swift mango]

She lock only 5... their is no target more than 5 for her to lock unless decoy, no?

[bleak shale]

1 hit all enemies

1 hit per lockon

1 hit from her gun

[shell hazel]

you didn't roll 3 of those pieces more than base OL it looks like lol 😄

bottom 3 are phase 11's

[placid bloom]

she have proc that hit each lock on enemy once and proc that shoots extra ammo while she is charging

just don't know if the extra ammo is the missile or not, and if the missile can splash

[hollow lagoon]

Wrong doro

[placid bloom]

[bleak shale]

u mean her lockon shots?

[shell hazel]

wrong doro

[placid bloom]

yeah

[bleak shale]

i suspect theyre actual procs like sanis/wasuka

or cindy burst

[ripe aurora]

Considering she's limited - good.
Because no extra copies.

[hollow lagoon]

There’s 2 and they be same person

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

[ripe aurora]

Water code needed a strong carry too, strong(er) than s. Doro anyway

[shell hazel]

I saw that blabla now seems to let you view old union raid data

[hollow lagoon]

Idk im not feeling the Bready invest

[placid bloom]

I mean it looks like Vesti missiles

[bleak shale]

water is just a team full of mid

[placid bloom]

if it splashes then it can do more than 5 hits

[ripe aurora]

Funny how both bready and snow white invest are culinary in nature

[bleak shale]

i think visuals are very confusing unless its numbers appearing

diesel is a rl btw

definately looks like a rl

like if u changed sanis visual to a missile that drops on their head it wont change the mechanic

[swift mango]

Hmm she may match Emi burst or maybe not.

[oak hatch]

Yeah none way to get a good water dps either if u don’t have sdoro. I’m planning to try this team on black snake once I get her, no manchor needed

[quick lake]

Noah 3 frames delay @bleak shale

[bleak shale]

it depends on her gun

[hollow lagoon]

What hax is dis

Oh normal black snake

[oak hatch]

Ye

[swift mango]

And if sequence dmg give any burst gen or not.

[bleak shale]

i dont see why not, theyre just extra hits

theyre better off lowering her gun's gen than making them different

[quick lake]

Pvp eating good

[swift mango]

Did Summer Sakura sequence shot give burst gen?

[oak hatch]

I hope i don’t get slammed by sw teams next ca @ripe aurora cuz I won’t have her built before then

[ripe aurora]

Technically nothing stopping me from building both sdoro and snow white for water weak campaign.
maniacal laughter

[bleak shale]

her initial dot? yes

as far as ive noticed any hit gives gen, the exception ive found is distributed dmg

[oak hatch]

focus PvP like me

[bleak shale]

where dist dmg only counts the target it targeted

[hollow lagoon]

Me here with 4 built water dps

[bleak shale]

like sbs cleave will not give per nikke it will give 1 target of cleave

[ripe aurora]

Gimme a break, I've been playing for only 5ish months

[quick lake]

Im betting Swha would be good

[swift mango]

Midhara dying chain?
Minimal though.

[ripe aurora]

S Doro can go on sg team... Hmmm

[hollow lagoon]

I started dis game on water dps, when everyone was complaining about water I was loving anything that has fire enemies

[oak hatch]

Doro s doro helm and who

[ripe aurora]

Bready qeq

[hollow lagoon]

Doro, sdoro, helm, xlude, Qeq

My Bready ain’t invested

[oak hatch]

Her burst gen so low

[swift mango]

Yeah, especially for non Emi players

[ripe aurora]

Doesn't her pierce procs?

[bleak shale]

her pierce technically amkes her gen lower

but ur also only piercing after 8 shots

[swift mango]

your QeQ wipe, need to bring it to CA.

[hollow lagoon]

My main water dps is Qeq just cuz she’s so easy to use

[hollow lagoon]

I did for 2 seasons

[swift mango]

now

[oak hatch]

Dunno since I don’t have her, just know it makes low on nikke deck, even everyone using sdoro swapped to weaker noir in our bracket

[hollow lagoon]

[placid bloom]

SDoro pretty bad on SG team

takes too long to do anything

[hollow lagoon]

For PvP?

[placid bloom]

yeah

[hollow lagoon]

Who in the right mind uses sdoro

[placid bloom]

there's also not that many good fire for her to swing into

she can't gun down Nero

[hollow lagoon]

Not enough yeet power to yeet vesti anyway

[placid bloom]

because Nero too fat

[oak hatch]

Baby bracket did

[ripe aurora]

You don't? I thought you were all about cursed teams?
I dare you to use her this CA

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

Cursed teams needs to be functional

[ripe aurora]

Excuses

[oak hatch]

Cursed and functional doesn’t sound right

[hollow lagoon]

I been dying in top 16 anyway

[placid bloom]

even if you use Viper SDoro, you still shouldn't be able to kill Nero before Moran B1

[ripe aurora]

S.doro sg stall team

[placid bloom]

like at most you can kill Rumani p5

[hollow lagoon]

Only way to stall with sdoro is tove fire rate buff+noir reload + ada life steal

[placid bloom]

and that's assuming Rumani is not on slow team with Biscuit

otherwise there's no real fire in unsafe spot for SG to take advantage of

[ripe aurora]

See? You want to use s.doro.
Step into my web.

[bleak shale]

@placid bloom i used sdoro in pvp

[placid bloom]

[hollow lagoon]

[bleak shale]

because my opponent was goofing and i just nayu 4x shotgun cheesed him, i didnt even have a full burst chain

[placid bloom]

I mean I use her too when my opponent has bad team

[bleak shale]

i just slammed in SG and my non burst > their non burst + high cp

[placid bloom]

and I need to CP pad

[bleak shale]

[hollow lagoon]

I’m not in the need cp pad list yet

[ripe aurora]

[shell hazel]

I don't think you ever would be really? lol

[hollow lagoon]

I’m going back to my season win team

[hollow lagoon]

Royal knight guy would force me to do it but I haven’t merged backet with him yet

[shell hazel]

like 1 in 1 million people in global may be more 🐋 and force it but it's such low chance

[hollow lagoon]

Could happen some times in 2026

He’s only 100 server bracket earlier than me tho, it could happen

But he could also merge with you

[shell hazel]

you'd be worrying about something extremely unlikely

[hollow lagoon]

Not worried I’ll still have 3000gems per season anyway

[shell hazel]

if I get out-whaled that badly so be it, I have more potential people that could cause me that issue

[hollow lagoon]

I out whaled Chris already

[shell hazel]

they slowed down?

[hollow lagoon]

@cunning crown ‘s whale

[shell hazel]

yeah did they stop spending as much?

[hollow lagoon]

Yeah, and that I spend up a bit to take down ziz

And now I stopped

[shell hazel]

I'll believe it when you stop accelerating away from me in levels 😄

[hollow lagoon]

My commander level outpaces my sync just now

[quick lake]

Always does

[hollow lagoon]

Prob will stay that way

[shell hazel]

i'm 466 you're 584

[quick lake]

I wonder how many day 1 peeps have quit

[shell hazel]

probably quite a few!

[hollow lagoon]

Catching up it was 120 now Tis less

[shell hazel]

you're saving crates I know it

[hollow lagoon]

156 red crates is nothing

It’s just 1 sync

[shell hazel]

I can sync to 473 with crates

not enough to jump the 481 I'd need so I don't bother

[hollow lagoon]

So only 100 sync gap

[quick lake]

My biggest was lvling 43 syncs in 1 day after new campaign dropped

[shell hazel]

584 - 573 = 111 😛

[hollow lagoon]

I thought I gapped you more but u been busy with wallet I see

[shell hazel]

arena opponents would be like

[shell hazel]

nah not spending anything more than usual pace

[quick lake]

i was being in sync alot tbf

[shell hazel]

I even skipped blanc gacha which has some cd crates in

[hollow lagoon]

I just buy my daily blue ticket

Ever since I reached 42-43

[shell hazel]

daily blue ticket?

[hollow lagoon]

The 1 blue ticket u get from daily shop per day

[placid bloom]

half price recycle room fund

[hollow lagoon]

[placid bloom]

6000 body label for 150 gem gamble

[shell hazel]

that doesn't seem great value, isn't the half price pull better?

the 150 daily gem pull - I haven't run the maths on it

[hollow lagoon]

I does both

Reduced doll material rolling and wipeouts as well

[shell hazel]

I upped my wipeouts a bit but I wanted 102 cd/hour before I did it

may revert if my gems run low lol

[hollow lagoon]

Arnt u 102?

[shell hazel]

I am now yes hence upped it a bit

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

I'm wiping out until 150 cost atm which I think isn't great value

[hollow lagoon]

That’s where I go

[shell hazel]

I don't think I've ever wiped out past that point

value drops so much

[hollow lagoon]

I ususlly go to 200

[shell hazel]

150 is past where I'd usually go

I'll keep this up until I beat behe at least

I'll need to see if forcing 481 is worth it when I have enough resources - it may or may not be

[hollow lagoon]

Behe is so easy now compared to ziz, then again my 2 atk 3 ele roll rapi prob holding me back a bit

[shell hazel]

forcing early means I get more cd/hour and my other crates go up a bit but waiting for chapters means I can boost every crate I have

depends how late into feb they appear

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

if I clear behe I can likely do the next 2 chapters after it

then stuck at snek 🐍

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t have a choice Into this matter anyway

[hollow lagoon]

That 7/7/7 anchor gonna bite u in the butt

[shell hazel]

it will be a long wait either way

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

SW may help with it as well tbf

[hollow lagoon]

Idk what people use to clear it now, I just used sbs to insta kill extra heads

Then again my helm is only 2 ele

[placid bloom]

depends on if you can tank clones or not

[hollow lagoon]

The clones are hurty

[placid bloom]

in theory if you manage Crown invin timing well you can just not kill heads

but it's not that easy

[hollow lagoon]

Yeah but then it’s not like I’ll do it again anytime soon

Since it’s ded

There may exist a tower version

But tower is

Optional content

[cunning crown]

maybe he lost motivation after we met in CA

[hollow lagoon]

It was a glorious spank

I’ll be 585 like

In 2 days?

[shell hazel]

he's gone back to school I reckon

or more likely just gaps everyone so much still that no need to push much more 😄

[hollow lagoon]

Oh more like 3

[shell hazel]

last year new chapters arrived 20/02 ish so I have a bit under 2 months before they'd appear if it's the same thing

I could be at 481 in about 2 weeks maybe so could be worth pushing it early, I'll have to math it a bit

[hollow lagoon]

trying to get burst gen in my fire comp is cancer

[eager brook]

For Scarlet, after getting 4 atk and 4 ele + 32 ammo, what should the remaining substat lines be? Crit damage/Crit rate?

[oak hatch]

Yes attack is most important and can choose to invest in crit or ele more, ele = more dmg in pve while crit is stronger in PvP

[umbral belfry]

scar in pve

[fallow nebula]

How to beat indom scarlet

[gritty ridge]

Slower indom, out sustain, rosa

Tho theres 3 attackers rosa will be rng

Its actually an unprotected blanc, you could vesti

[fallow nebula]

Will siren work? Shes stunned after ult

Or is her weapon type too painful into scarlet’s riposte

Or whatever we csll that

Or sustain

[gritty ridge]

Counters, and she should survive but its not scars dps thats dangerous in indom

Its her counters

[fallow nebula]

My team was all rl

Does helm heal work if scar is indom

[gritty ridge]

Helm heal will work

[fallow nebula]

I can use belm burst then

[gritty ridge]

Try moran noah helm

[fallow nebula]

No moran

[gritty ridge]

Noise may work

[fallow nebula]

Red hood rapunzel?

[gritty ridge]

No redhood, run another clip rl

[glad meteor]

Just noah biscuit helmt lap+ noise

[gritty ridge]

Could do that too

Also hi K

[fallow nebula]

Laplace dps?

[glad meteor]

Lap+ is treasure

[glad meteor]

Hi

[gritty ridge]

Dps and burst gen

[fallow nebula]

Rate my defense team btw

[glad meteor]

No vesti = mid defense

[gritty ridge]

T3 should remove sanis

[fallow nebula]

Ugh if i got vesti who would inswitch out,

[fallow nebula]

Rumani works?

[hollow lagoon]

i'm mid

[glad meteor]

You are 🐳

[gritty ridge]

How much atk is your rapu

[glad meteor]

[fallow nebula]

Emilia for vesti?

[hollow lagoon]

[gritty ridge]

Yes

@fallow nebula check who links here in shooting range

[glad meteor]

Just ask someone to cook def with your box prob,

Maybe theyll cook

Vesti indom
Cindy
Scar trina/bay team

[fallow nebula]

Scarlet should be far left no?

[glad meteor]

[gritty ridge]

That team you want rapu far left

[fallow nebula]

Ill get to investing

[gritty ridge]

Im actually considering this for my teams

[glad meteor]

wrong vesti

[oak hatch]

[gritty ridge]

What

[oak hatch]

sus vesti

[gritty ridge]

Oh, water vesti

[fallow nebula]

Wait you mean the other one? I dont have the emma or eunhwa so shes useless

[umbral belfry]

oh you sweet summer child

you don't need them to run vesti

[gritty ridge]

Vesti is an absolute monster in pvp

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/fant4stic-say-that-again-gif-16690486418948643620

[gritty ridge]

Pun intended

@umbral belfry hear me out

[fallow nebula]

Ols for pvp vesti? Attack cs ammo?

[gritty ridge]

4 atk 3 ele 3 cs 2 ammo

[fallow nebula]

Ele?

[ivory violet]

elemental damage to blow up noah

[gritty ridge]

Yeah we like her to kill the humble Noah and blanc

[fallow nebula]

Jackpot

[gritty ridge]

[umbral belfry]

depends if you're confident in linked rapu always stunning

t2 and t3 works

[hollow lagoon]

@umbral belfry can I haz rock

[fallow nebula]

Black cs counts as two right

[gritty ridge]

I could always go the soline rapu method

[gritty ridge]

No

You actually want 3 black lines

[fallow nebula]

Which cube

[gritty ridge]

Depends on how much ammo you have

[fallow nebula]

My last doll 🙁

[fallow nebula]

80%

94% now

[umbral belfry]

as someone who ran this (sr15 mlb rapu with 0 stuns, even vs vesti) you're likely not stunning unless she isn't sr15 and/or isn't OL

[umbral belfry]

mine

[gritty ridge]

My rapu is sr5

[umbral belfry]

got OL?

the main reason why 2d's stunned was bc he had no chest and legs i think

so if you got those 2 OLs

that, and imo if your aim is to get rapu to stun 2rl is too fast

from personal experience at least

[gritty ridge]

Wait my bad, my rapu is r0

[umbral belfry]

but does she have any OL on

[gritty ridge]

Not yet

Ill be overloading her for cs% soon

[umbral belfry]

then you have a good chance to stun

for this I wouldn't recommend OLing rapu for higher chance to team stun

[gritty ridge]

That'll severely drag my team cp tho

[umbral belfry]

actually I think 2d just removed chest and boots altogether

[umbral belfry]

man who cares for ca cp

[gritty ridge]

Those 3 teams are for spa

[umbral belfry]

ah that makes sense

welp, up to you then

[gritty ridge]

Ill overload her, worst case scenario is I have to build soline

The r0 doll may carry

[hollow lagoon]

onle 1 rock today

su need to make interception like 5 attempts insted of 3

[shell hazel]

5 x 0 is still 0 though

[placid bloom]

full burst day every day for 1 week on NY will surely solve your issue

it's actually kinda crazy how many full burst day I already only ended with 2 rock

[bleak shale]

can i have

villian event pass reset + 5x5

instead of fbd

[placid bloom]

we have Elysion event, Tetra event, and Missilis event. Surely next one is pilgrim

Surely

[hollow lagoon]

just want my pitys

[uncut crown]

Would 4 lines Charge Speed Up, 4 lines Max Ammo, 2 Ele, 2 Atk be a good goal for pvp Vesti?

[placid bloom]

4 ammo is overkill for PvP

[swift mango]

I will take fbd everyday for a year over it.

[brazen pilot]

only winning half the time against this team on high deficit, wondering what would work better

[glad meteor]

When you’re losing whats the main problem

• team dying before indom
• are you 2rl all the time?

[brazen pilot]

team sometimes dies before indom, when indom works i win

pretty sure this is 2rl let me verify again

[glad meteor]

I see, prob scar s2 really strong

[brazen pilot]

yeah we're 2RL

bwaa thanks for the help tho

[uncut crown]

How many ammo do you think would be best? What should I replace those lines with?

[placid bloom]

1 high % ammo line + bastion cube is good enough, you can do 2 lines if you expect a lot of indom war but Vesti is not reliable at post-indom kill imo, she is too vulnerable to faster hitters once indom wears off

she really wants to finish the fight earlier

so even if you have extra ammo you are not guaranteed to win

[gritty ridge]

Saturday I got literally 0 drops

0 rocks 0 gear

[eager brook]

Getting gear fodder when you start is rough too, makes me want to buy the ultra modules packs from the cash shop

[gritty ridge]

Oof dont do that

Terrible deal

[gritty ridge]

Whats your pfp, it looks familiar

[eager brook]

Taihou naked dogeza from Azur Lane

[gritty ridge]

Oh, i thought it was a manwha ive read

[hollow lagoon]

Could use one of Dorothy

Oh noes I been gaslit into liking crazy pink hair NIKKE

@umbral belfry why u do dis to me

I need to go back to fish simping

[brazen pilot]

o i have a 77% and 68% ammo line, should i trash the 68% for atk? curious what you think of my current OL

[sinful berry]

Ok so "random BS, go!" obviously didn't work but they were in fact combat effective for a few seconds, which tells me i can theoretically win this if I reshuffle things.

[gritty ridge]

Why is the power so low

[sinful berry]

Probably because i don't really dedicate to pvp much

Like if I cared about pvp I'd probably be sitting in diamond 1 or 2

[uncut crown]

Thanks for the tip!

[shell hazel]

loses 3-0

https://tenor.com/view/nah-id-win-gojo-nah-id-win-gojo-satoru-gojo-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-722934852497975468

[jagged mesa]

@placid bloom congrats, its noah time

of course they release a pilgrim selector after i get what i want ha ha ha

[shell hazel]

gotta spend though

doesn't help much when f2p

[umbral crown]

@shell hazel i will c7 besot shieldo with pilgrim selector

[shell hazel]

no Rosy that is not da way

[jagged mesa]

o damn its paid wtf

[shell hazel]

yup

[shell hazel]

just silver mileage the Noah Rosy, I hope you're not being serious about paid pilgrim selector for besto shieldo :p

[umbral crown]

But besto shieldo

[shell hazel]

no need when we can silver mileage dupes Rosy!

[umbral crown]

That reminds me when i used some gold tix on helm

[shell hazel]

[gritty ridge]

Wait there's a paid selectir?

Does it have laplace

[shell hazel]

two selector things.
step up 6.6K gems any normal unit copy you want
paid pilgrim selector where you need real money to get it

[umbral crown]

Finally gonna make helm c7

[shell hazel]

oh yeah damn the other new selector thing

6 pick up to 10 + helm is added to it. Sadly my Helm is already core max and she's the only one who is

I'll just dupe out Alice some more prob with the others

[leaden canyon]

whats the % cp deficit kicks in at again for pvp?

[shell hazel]

without Rail you're slipping I see

it's 84.6% or opponent cp * 0.846

[leaden canyon]

nvm found it in pins lol

15.41%

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-celebrating-gif-6529507804860980052

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1444021874676727918/blanc.gif

[covert lintel]

After you buy it and make helm c7, helm dupe is gonna show up more

[umbral crown]

[raven plover]

not like other option is any better for pvp 😭 maybe tia treasure soon? ⁉️

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

Smh, just win 35% deficit

[leaden canyon]

I only have 1 team that can do that

[gritty ridge]

Me too

[tulip quest]

That's like not caring for 3k gems every 14 days

Well your call tho if you just wanna focus PVE

[hollow lagoon]

Rail wasn’t real

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/its-about-time-starcraft-tycho-gif-19200895

[umbral belfry]

at the ready

[hollow lagoon]

Oh u guys gonna do the snipe

[surreal fable]

will this work?

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

I haven't gotten any Alice and DKW dupe since I max core them. @umbral crown will be fine.

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

No
Too slow

[surreal fable]

their burst is 2RL, mine is 2.5

enough to get blanc burst go off right?

[keen vapor]

Will be ?

[surreal fable]

thats why I'm asking

[swift mango]

Could be if you had enough cs. Cindy Nuke is slow. If your Vesti could tank 1 hit you should win.

[surreal fable]

i dont know

[surreal fable]

hard

[keen vapor]

I wouldn't do something so risky, that I can tell

[swift mango]

I would for vesti team if it was CA. But there is a chance to lose.

[surreal fable]

these are all I have, got noah and og scarlet not long ago so they r not invested

[kindred blade]

My second team is too slow. Anything i can do here?

[surreal fable]

and rumani too, had no noah and scarlet so I never thought of investing in her

[umbral crown]

nice, thats what i wanted to hear

@keen vapor i guess im cookig

[umbral belfry]

[glad meteor]

[rustic sandal]

Sniped just in time.

[umbral belfry]

i knew there was a snipe going on

[glad meteor]

I had enemy try to snipe me

[surreal fable]

what if I replaced RH with jackal, would I still have enough dmg?

[glad meteor]

good thing was spamming

[wild hemlock]

just a nibble pls

[rustic sandal]

No way Siren 1v3 everyone cuz of Blanc indom.

The first try was loss because Grave sold. I upgraded her doll from R0 to R5 and she was able to survive.

[umbral crown]

nobody tried

[rustic sandal]

Like look at her...

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

Be weaker

[umbral crown]

[rustic sandal]

A guy tried to snipe me. I think it's good that everyone's offline when it's maintenance time.

My bracket sleeping when maint happens.

[umbral crown]

starf just attacks once a day, 1h before my lunch break

[umbral crown]

[quartz rover]

The way snow whites first skill is worded seems like she shoots all 5 nikke

[sullen dawn]

[raven plover]

if it does, now we need to know if the def debuff is like jack s1

if it adds gen, thats insane

[covert lintel]

No pierce?

[raven plover]

pierce only for the target of crosshair right, which is one? will it be rng gen like red hood

pierce 5 holy moly we dont need her dmg taken to work like jack and we still get 1 RL