pvp-arena

[umbral belfry]

can you make it exist again please and ty

[radiant coral]

Older generations being entitled to better stuff as always smh

[umbral belfry]

[rich quail]

We’re entitled

Welfare

Senior discounts

Parking

[umbral belfry]

peepaw ET

[noble hatch]

Yoyoyo it’s that day of the week!

Let’s have a good CA season

Wow 🤩

[hollow hamlet]

I have an SR AR doll (ho ho ho.) Give it to Moran for PVP buffering, or save it in case I get Scarlet/Blanc/Tove/other more general purpose unit?

Seems to be a dead weapon class?

[keen vapor]

ARE YOU HAPPY?

[gritty ridge]

Yeah, not many good ar

[coarse lake]

no bc I didn't do that good this sr either

[keen vapor]

just don't do raids

[keen vapor]

Oh we officially have now

[hollow hamlet]

This is tempting but I lose (2)... his (3) team seems slow, worth a shot?

[ivory violet]

You're gonna get owned super hard by absolute there it's slow but it doesn't need to burst to kill you

[hollow hamlet]

YOLO

[ivory violet]

Oh well nvm you owned him

[hollow hamlet]

Could have gone either way, Nayuta's attack can be pretty strong

[oak hatch]

Ya nayuta counters absolute comp

[ivory violet]

Mine beat Nayuta like a month ago bc it still killed p2 and p3 before he could burst

[sour briar]

This is worse than tuberculosis

[wild hemlock]

this can't be worth it

[umbral crown]

just give a try, nothing to lose

[wild hemlock]

Except CA... I just don't know if speeding up this team with 4 funny quantums really matters. Think I'm already fast enough as is prob

[umbral crown]

i use weird teams every CA

you learn a few things with new cooks

[wild hemlock]

Last CA I lost in group stage cause I wanted to try different setups

[umbral crown]

it happens sometimes

i lost in league last season and i went with good teams

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/wut-nani-gif-25387499

Siren gains burst gen with machingun certain number hits = 50% burst gen

[oak hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/uhm-meeting2-hmm-meeting-hmm-pepe-pepe-meeting-gif-18064240235739253690

[tulip quest]

just do casual if u don't like raids 800 gems or somethin not bad

Bruh who uses gems in Rookie

[gritty ridge]

Its grave that hardcarries gen after 1st burst

[tulip quest]

ya

but siren 1st burst

which is the most important

you die to certain stages because deficit rapture kills u if u cant burst fast enuf to kill

maybe the free 4 attacks given to them

my other guy randomly use it up on me and lost 4 times and win 5th

[radiant coral]

https://tenor.com/view/jumping-willoww-gif-21958563

[primal escarp]

Ive just got back in the top 20 in SP. Yay

[tulip quest]

I take it personally problem is I DON'T GEMS thats kinda crazy in ROOKIE hahahha

[wild hemlock]

Does Lib need any Atk breakpoints to wipe teams? Like obv x4 atk is ideal but if you have say 0x atk would you end up not wipeing a team

[tulip quest]

Lib can wipe team if deficit not too high even vs Noise

1.5m CP vs 1.8 my lib wipes vs Noise teams

[wild hemlock]

Oh yeah I'm asking for CA so no deficit

[tulip quest]

She has that extra 160% atk damage for 3 seconds on burst

[wild hemlock]

Just debating how much I wanna roll for more atk on my lib after I just got 21%cs. I only have 1 atk roll atm

[tulip quest]

21 Cs really good if u just focus pvp

[oak hatch]

Haven’t seen a gemmer yet in rookie or spa, my bracket smart with their resources lol

Or maybe they busy gemming someone else

[quick lake]

Quantum shouldnt matter here. Limiting unit is Lib which u alr have a lot of CS

[wild hemlock]

That's what I was thinking just sticking with full tempering

[rustic sandal]

My old team isn't cutting it anymore. I went from C6 to D4 this season, after fighting hard to get 2400 gems.

I'm knocked down several pegs and cannot fight back because I don't have any PvP essentials to work with.

I might not get 2000 gems this season.

It's not cutting it anymore.

[quick lake]

Will be tough. Missing alot of key pvp units. Tbh just auto all the teams for max CP

Better to push campaign harder and sync up as much as possible

[rustic sandal]

Already did. Stuck on 25 and 9H respectively.

[quick lake]

<200 sync pvp is more about CP gapping ur opponent

[rustic sandal]

I'm 16 pulls away from 160, I'm being told time and time again to just wait and not use my gems on standard.

[quick lake]

Yeah, but standard banner is not that worth unless u really wanna pvp ig

Maybe the daily discounted 150 gems

[oak hatch]

I spammed daily discounts until I got most of the characters I needed

Prob a good idea to speed up breaking the 160 wall through it, opponent gonna get more and more resources while they ahead in campaign

[rustic sandal]

Ye. Only that. And I've been through almost a hundred standard pulls without anything good popping out.

[lavish lintel]

I need a team that can beat

Moran Noah Vesti Helm & Emilia

Preferably one without Emilia involved cause I don't have her

[gaunt bane]

Jackal vesti battery blanc battery probably

[slim quest]

Is there a team that beats scarlet blanc RH helm jackal?

Having issues with this team and can't find anything that beats it

[gaunt bane]

Feel like any noah team would beat this

[crystal flicker]

Any 2RL should do

Unless you feed them to heaven

[slim quest]

I'm been slamming this into it and no W

[crystal flicker]

It's not 2RL

[gaunt bane]

Your team is too slow

[crystal flicker]

Change Siren to Rumani

[silver siren]

Guys, how to counter rumani,blanc,mihara,biscuits, cindy team? Appreciate if anyone can help 🙏

[gaunt bane]

Change biscuit to another battery probably

[crystal flicker]

How to counter 3RL+ team?
Any 2 RL should do

[wise horizon]

Any advice on these comps and how to beat them?

[crystal flicker]

How to beat Noah?

Siren/Soda

[fickle jetty]

is there any better team to beat this or i just need to switch order

i will lose if I cannot kill rumani faster, not stable

[crystal flicker]

Rosa

A good Rosa can 1 tap Jackal comp linked DPS

[fickle jetty]

what's the team

[azure star]

Since I mentioned this yesterday here , I found the solution, the problem was I’m a potato and my method of acquiring Overload data was flawed (not the formula <3)

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Rosa Trina Centi Jackal
or you can try Siren Noah

[short plaza]

these two teams have been a bit weak lately is there anything I can do about them? (I don't mind changing the Moran team into something completely different)

[hollow lagoon]

lib nuke

[wind kelp]

Remindr to set your League cubes etc, server maintenance might go over the time.

[silver siren]

2rl with Lib? Noise, noah, lib, helmt, jackal will work?

[hollow lagoon]

noah not necessary cuz they gonna not burst

depending on your investment u may or may not want to buff ur lib

[umbral crown]

Maint?

[wind kelp]

Atleast there was a scrolly banner thing in game right now, assuming it's that :p

[umbral crown]

Have not logged since like 6h ago or so

[wind kelp]

I'm not 100% sure, it might've been a quick maint as well.

Banner said 2100 utc +9 (so from now until 1.5h later), but, might've been a short one 😄

[hollow lagoon]

mmmm big nuke

with life steal lib

[umbral crown]

To lifesteal helm needs to burst

[hollow lagoon]

read ada?

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

[wind kelp]

Welp, the treasure team has been set. I forgot to take shots of the new teams, and i'm not touching one hair on League menu until it starts just in case it decides to reset things XD

[swift mango]

60*5=300 or 3 rock.

[marble saddle]

60*7 = 420 or 4.2 rocks for me.

[swift mango]

That 2 more days that you didn't claim, doesn't count.

[marble saddle]

Ik that's why I added for me.

[wind kelp]

To be fair, the daily tickets for the surface rocks do stack, so you can run 50 of those today.

[swift mango]

It only stacks to 21/21.

[wind kelp]

Ok, you can run a WEEK of rocks if you want :p

[shell hazel]

I need to set my CA teams

[swift mango]

I didn't have time for that too

[shell hazel]

we should still have time now I think

[swift mango]

didn't even do rookie yesterday

[covert lintel]

Just make a joke team like me

[split tundra]

Sorry for disturbing , but is there any good comps that you can suggest for me that would help in rookie and special arena? I'll appreciate all of the responses. Thank you.

[ancient sun]

Sup. I want to ask for an advice. I used to have this team before I got treasure on Helm. This was my set up:

[wind kelp]

Mana, centi, alice, rapiRH, siren, libby, naga, biscuit, privaty, poli, rumani, drake, noah..not in that order!...just from cursory glance, there should be enough 😄 You'll be ok.

To kick things off, could try something like Noah, Siren, Libby, biscuit, Mana in rookie?

[ancient sun]

Are these teams better than previous ones?

[wind kelp]

Oh and i totally missed Nayuta and RH as well. Could go with RH instead of mana.

[ancient sun]

Also this

[split tundra]

Thanks buddy. I'll try them later.

[wind kelp]

For special arena, could try something like;

• Rumani, siren, nayuta, Privaty, Alice
• Noah, libby, liter, Sweetie diesel, RH.
• Poli, Drake, Naga, Soline. RapiRH.

No idea tbh, i typically go with "test and see what sticks", and it all ofcourse depends on opponent, but, my 2 centd if nothing else!

[shell hazel]

without Rail doing stuff you'll probably not get that many replies anyway 😛

Rail

[wind kelp]

I'm like the "we have team cooks at home" version

[shell hazel]

then @hollow lagoon is cursed Rail

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

oh god it's got tentacles!

[gaunt pulsar]

this vesti is better, for 2nd one i would move linked unit to the p5 and it's probably anchor there, while anis on 3rd and maiden on 4th, though it would mainly matter if you use the same team on attack against sg, on def 5th is barely under any pressure usually and you dont really need it for feed as you already natural 2RL, so burst 2 with whoever you like, anis burst isn't complete trash still though

[ancient sun]

You are the best

[gaunt pulsar]

switch noir in t1 and drake in t2 around if you can afford that cp change(from perspective that it doesn't hurt vesti team cp too much), and in t1 we can raise cp like this, makes it more safe as if someone decides to stun your nayuta you still will burst with biscuit, previously you only had one b2 in t1

[ancient sun]

Thankfully, CP change is minimal and it finally made Siren useless against all my teams

[umbral crown]

Blood is old like me

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

Be the rail we all wished to be

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

hey you the MA here not me 😄

Rosytracer!

[covert lintel]

Rosytheracer

[umbral crown]

Its good to let people cook

Thats how new cooks are born

[tulip quest]

Bro Christmas event in Nikke is Funeral

CN I believe gave out 3 standard SSR and 2 Limited SSR for free

But AZX just gave us DEPRESSION

[tulip quest]

Exactly

Cursed comps also welcome I like random cooks

[umbral crown]

Hime is cooking

[umbral belfry]

ikuyo, azx

[umbral belfry]

I'm gonna cook u

stop

[hollow lagoon]

@umbral belfry is cooking rail

[tulip quest]

CURSED VOICE

[umbral crown]

[tulip quest]

Kaja Ejecksu

[umbral belfry]

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-jojo-reference-jotaro-jojos-bizarre-adventure-is-that-a-jojo-reference-gif-6681830226860212095

Imagine what it means "I will Eject YOU!"

Kaja Ejecksu

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/eject-button-farnsworth-hermes-futurama-gif-9550175

[tulip quest]

Kaja Ejecksu

I will Eject you! I will Eject you!

Soline is wild she's an Animal

[hollow lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/chi-comanda-pull-hair-cat-cute-gif-16064779

[tulip quest]

I'm too high on coffee I guess

Sadly not high on rocks 🙁

[hollow lagoon]

I have 6

[tulip quest]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-eating-gif-18992613

[hollow lagoon]

I spent 3 to make my vesti ele roll from 13 to 16

[tulip quest]

Stack for Overspec

People speculation

1 Anis Overspec 2 SW ALT 3 Missilis Trio

[hollow lagoon]

Osanis feels like prob gonna be a water code deal

Or electric

[tulip quest]

Anis is Iron

[hollow lagoon]

We have like 6 trillion iron b3

[tulip quest]

Rapi was fire Normal then Fire Overspec with Red hood Iron bonus element extra

[tulip quest]

Neon is Water

[hollow lagoon]

Yeah? How u explain Mihara then

For all we know all overspec has been fire anis can also be fire

[tulip quest]

The Creator on Interview kinda said

I wanna create Rapi Original and Improve it with Red Hood aspects but Rapi's essence still Rapi

so Most likely for the Counters OG just better

[hollow lagoon]

[tulip quest]

Unless he Decides moneh is better than STORY

Screw this new tactic new Element more profit

[hollow lagoon]

Money and story Breh, has absolute triple banner and summer pilgrim taught u nothing

Lib could very well be watercode

But guess what people needed

[tulip quest]

Yea this I learn my lesson

[lone sequoia]

f-ck lib, i really hate her (as unit)

[tulip quest]

GOLD IS PRECIOUS

[tulip quest]

I Used her this Solo raid

easy burst gen

[hollow lagoon]

Wind fire and iron eating good electric and water kinda on the downer

I used lib this raid for dmg

[tulip quest]

Bready water

asdasdasdasdasd I don't wanna build her tho

[hollow lagoon]

My Bready still ain’t built

Like no gear no skills

[lone sequoia]

used cnidy/raven/vesti instead of her

[tulip quest]

You buy the 60 Gear on Coop

[hollow lagoon]

Like I can build her but tf I’m I gonna do with it, other than raid I can’t tower with her cuz u need crust for tetra

[tulip quest]

Vesti sucks need element my vesti Semi pvp

Cindy raven Lib used

[hollow lagoon]

I the neutural lord is plays neutural comps

[lone sequoia]

i think this event+map is the worst so far

[tulip quest]

Some1 even Used Emma Eunwha Diesel

and got 7.7b comp

DON top 1 NA

NO Vesti

[lone sequoia]

balanced pvp build with 2 ele and 4 atk+ extras

[hollow lagoon]

If u invest enugff it’s what u get

I have 3 atk 1 ele

[tulip quest]

If 4 Ele might be worth

[hollow lagoon]

[tulip quest]

for fire raid

I think Im gonna start choosing my pulls this time

Like some characters just use ONCE IN 5 MONTHS

and u build them for wut

[lone sequoia]

money and luck imagine what i could have done with the 100 rocks lib ate for only 1 ele line... probably nothing because my luck is really bad

[hollow lagoon]

That’s the thing Breh

[tulip quest]

Pure whale bro DON WAS 37B TOP 1 TOP 2 NA WAS 29B

[hollow lagoon]

I coulda gone and built the evangelion fire units but

[tulip quest]

Rei is worth Asuka IF has core

[lone sequoia]

is time to invest in water again, next overclock season should be water

[hollow lagoon]

I built the evangelion wind units cu i knew queen raid gonna be competitive but now i realize I prob won’t use them again

[tulip quest]

Could be Iron who knows

[hollow lagoon]

Nah if I can get 0.49 without them I can stay without them

[lone sequoia]

we already got the other 4 elements

[tulip quest]

W Asuka worth in Wind Meta even

[hollow lagoon]

Yeah I don’t regret that set as much

[tulip quest]

When was S.U Logical bruh

[hollow lagoon]

But I know I’ll regret if I invest evangelion fire set

[tulip quest]

Last time 2X Water Raid In a Row

[lone sequoia]

i'm talking about simulation room

[tulip quest]

SDoro Raid + Winter Guillotine Raid

[tulip quest]

Yea water it is then

[tulip quest]

Just Invest when u Like

[hollow lagoon]

Did we even get a raid for rapi? Release

[lone sequoia]

xguillo is only good with bready or full 1 hyper carry, but sdoro is good enough with SG team

[hollow lagoon]

My water carry is qeq

[lone sequoia]

those pilgrims are units for january/february

[tulip quest]

Yea I think?

[hollow lagoon]

3 ele roll qeq how luxurious

[tulip quest]

im not Pulling Xguillo

I like Guillo's Character tho

funny

[hollow lagoon]

I pulled xguillo cuz i use her for surface

[lone sequoia]

good unit but too niche, you can just wait for the next unit that powercreep the game

[tulip quest]

QEQ oh that I don't have her Built Also

XMaiden tho too good for Electric

[lone sequoia]

like if water is the worse element in the game for most of the players, you don't really need to invest a lot there

[tulip quest]

Depends if u like water raids

I just focus on Units Ilike

[tulip quest]

Gotta save those shiny gems

[lone sequoia]

i like helm and my worst element is wind

[lone sequoia]

SU don't show that skill for new units/banners

[swift mango]

cindy is still the better off ele bosser.

[lone sequoia]

surface is another dead mode like CA

[hollow lagoon]

Prydwen demoted her to ss tier

[lone sequoia]

beta without changes after a year

[swift mango]

yeah nah, I'm not beating ele shield with dkw, not on my phone

[tulip quest]

Bro that's a given She's Pilgrim Anniv

[tulip quest]

at least it gave like 30 Rocks

[swift mango]

so does libby

[hollow lagoon]

I have alternate comp that does a bit less dmg but more evenly distributed fire units

[tulip quest]

my Lib Kinda Jacked in Ele even got 1 29% Black Line

4 Ele 1 black line

[hollow lagoon]

My lib has 3x20% rolls ele is kinda too high

[lone sequoia]

cindy numbers are high and she also get stats from more sources, the hp buff is really good or caster atk because she is a defender

[hollow lagoon]

Attack damage up, caster attack, hp

She just don’t like attack up much cuz that’s 40% as effective on her

[lone sequoia]

like 40 from missions and .6 per day; another 36

[swift mango]

doesnt really matter though, they don't tier dps for off ele.

[hollow lagoon]

They do now

[tulip quest]

Yea daily stack up to x21 4.2 rocks a week not bad

[hollow lagoon]

Reason for Cindy demotion was cuz ele options are more numerous

[tulip quest]

Reason is She's weak with Core

[hollow lagoon]

As if average whale can afford to juice up raid units every raid

[tulip quest]

Rapi stronk with or without core

[hollow lagoon]

Cindy is not really weak with core

[swift mango]

see

[hollow lagoon]

Her damage is just not core dependent

[tulip quest]

If U compare her to Rapi

with Core

[hollow lagoon]

Core or not in a neutural setting my Cindy does more

[lone sequoia]

MG got 3 buff just for modernia

[tulip quest]

Bro that's weird

[hollow lagoon]

Bro ur weird

The universe rotates around me obviously

[lone sequoia]

MG got the core dmg buff and the fps hit count, now the fire rate thing boost the dmg a lot for people with bad devices

[tulip quest]

MG really Meta in DPS in Raids

[swift mango]

and yet noone use modernia anymore outside of fireraid.

[marble saddle]

anyone got the CA squad Stereotype teams?

[tulip quest]

Bro 3 years Of course she was already ABUSED ENUF on CAMPAIGN pushing fire element and old raids

[lone sequoia]

never used her... didn't pull on her banner because i don't like her, imagine pushing campaign without the strongest and easiest unit to use, she also got the element buff for like half year (new chapters were fire weak)

[tulip quest]

it's even amazing we still use Her LOOK AT DORO OG

[swift mango]

I pushed campaign with scarlet until I got RH so can imagine.

[tulip quest]

Same didn't used Modernia on HC because I don't have her

Scarlet carried me hard Early

I pushed CAMPAIGN Without Knowing burst Mechanics LOL

SCARLET normal damage POG

[lone sequoia]

i still use my scarlet... except against bosses

[tulip quest]

Electric Raid Scarlet Trina Arcana Isabel Meta

[lone sequoia]

no arcana last electric weak raid, but i used trina/scarlet for T4 or 5, arcana/isabel combo is strong

[tulip quest]

ya I doubted Isabel My bad

[swift mango]

I used scarlet trina for union raid. Way better than my ASS+mari

[broken fossil]

https://sg-public-api.hoyoverse.com/event/social_sea_share/redirectUrl?key=m20251013hy2e17plog&lang=en-us&game_biz=nap_global&title_key=share_title&url=https%3A%2F%2Fact.hoyoverse.com%2Fzzz%2Fevent%2Fe20251219-collection-ok467g%2Findex.html%3Fu_code%3DCAGJXJPCAG2K%26hyl_presentation_style%3Dfullscreen%26hyl_landscape%3Dtrue%26hyl_auth_required%3Dtrue%26hyl_hide_status_bar%3Dtrue%26game_biz%3Dnap_global%26utm_source%3Dshare%26utm_medium%3Dhoyolab%26utm_campaign%3Dapp&img_url=https%3A%2F%2Fact-upload.hoyoverse.com%2Fevent-ugc-review%2F2025%2F12%2F19%2F1314732509%2F76419eead21df74a8994595ce6519d9b_3063346197785711643.jpeg&desc_key=share_desc&timeStamp=5887176

[lone sequoia]

zzz?

[tulip quest]

ZZZ so Grindy

[lone sequoia]

is this a bot?

[tulip quest]

so little gain as F2P

and Grind not AUTO Manual

[hollow lagoon]

@tulip quest u be right but crown also fumbled on one of Cindy’s burst

But the difference is kinda too small

[lone sequoia]

bro, i hate these new gacha games, all feel like a different soulworker but worse

[swift mango]

nikke alsonew

[tulip quest]

ur Cindy damage kinda abnormal

[lone sequoia]

no, you

[hollow lagoon]

what more do u want, my Cindy is worse rolled than rapi

[tulip quest]

TOO MUCH Time Grinding

Nikke can just do 5 minutes daily done

[hollow lagoon]

I picked supports that dosnt favor Cindy even

[lone sequoia]

"3minutes is all we need"

[tulip quest]

Aight you win man sometimes I just can't brain brain

[tulip quest]

tower

[lone sequoia]

the Qol patch didn't improve the mode, is still the same

[tulip quest]

China improved more than SEA XD

instant Affection 10x 1 CLICK

I watched Skyjlv's stream once

[lone sequoia]

the only thing i hate from the cn server is the frame for top50 or was 200

[hollow lagoon]

Idk but I want that viper/blanc 3d mode but with Cindy and Siren and Helm and Crown and …..

[tulip quest]

only CN has 3d Models XD

[lone sequoia]

we need the boss rush mode with pvp mechanics; chibis and all auto

[tulip quest]

I mean CN Christmas gave out 3 SSR NIKKE 2 LIMITED NIKKE FOR FREE

FREE

[hollow lagoon]

NIKKE has 3d models, it’s in their trailers, they just don’t use them

[tulip quest]

Meanwhile SEA got NORA DEPRESSION

[hollow lagoon]

I’m not sea in global

[tulip quest]

Museum but 1 time rewards only sad

[hollow lagoon]

But I got Nora deadz, not much depression cuz her dream came true

[lone sequoia]

that is another whale mode+CA

[tulip quest]

NOT OUR DREAM Tho sadly

[tulip quest]

I finished allrewards except the really hard parts

got all the DOLL mats

[hollow lagoon]

My dream is for siren sing me to sleep tonight

[lone sequoia]

you play with your sync, i'm in step 2- 40b i think

[tulip quest]

I wanna hear that also

[tulip quest]

no rush it's permanent

[hollow lagoon]

She say go to sleep and ye never wake up

[lone sequoia]

i was talking about a different game mode, not the museum we have in nikke

like pvp against a campaign boss with buff stages-lvls, all that

[hollow lagoon]

My favorite 2025 units so far prob siren bade bmilk maid duo

I like mana aesthetics but damn she fell off

[lone sequoia]

imagine some bosses have like 500 different defensive buff and you can reduce them every time you reach full burst; a good mode for vesti or isabel, others with hit counte mechanics or DoT all that with the pvp system (full auto and chibi)

[hollow lagoon]

Feels like a harder mirrior container

[lone sequoia]

naa, just pvp against a wall

[hollow lagoon]

Oh

I was gonna say should introduce a boss that instant kill any non mlb unit

[lone sequoia]

that also work in a game mode like this

[hollow lagoon]

That would be a properly cursed boss

[lone sequoia]

they can also change elements during the fight or depending in the stage/lvl you reach

[tulip quest]

Ur Siren SO JACKED Mine don't even have copy or atk lines just ele

[hollow lagoon]

What I only have 2 atk lines

[lone sequoia]

just like a proper boss rush mode

[tulip quest]

GG F2p

[hollow lagoon]

neutral lord siren

[tulip quest]

Crit rate is insane

4 rolls

[hollow lagoon]

it do be very often orange numbers

mid ish cindy

the charge dmg needs to go but they are on line 3

[tulip quest]

prolly cause of high core damage hp scaling

[hollow lagoon]

sort of whatever ish rapi

[tulip quest]

aight I out for now gotta help coop

[tulip quest]

cindy stronker

[hollow lagoon]

nah

crit on rapi makes up

charged dmg does almost nothing

attack also less effective on cindy

i should roll it into crit

but no rocks

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/grandma's-fake-teeth-flew-out-when-blowing-a-candle-viralhog-grandma-blew-out-a-candle-and-her-dental-implants-flew-out-gif-2177443156331695156

[tulip quest]

ATK ELE my Cindy all 4 equip

[hollow lagoon]

[tulip quest]

3rd line is a whaley dream

[hollow lagoon]

what's a ele

[tulip quest]

Element

[hollow lagoon]

[hollow lagoon]

ele rolling gonna be less important with hex code anyway

[tulip quest]

PVP AND PVE Gonna change

choose focus 1 unless they make PVP HEX Code and PVE Hex code

[hollow lagoon]

why

[tulip quest]

Imagine getting all CHARGE SPEED HEX CODE

[hollow lagoon]

since my units are 3 ele max ill just chose ele

[tulip quest]

PVP RL 1.5 RL would be normal or even 1RL XD

[hollow lagoon]

still only matter for ca

[tulip quest]

SPA Also tho the GEM Generator

[hollow lagoon]

my current bracket wont be saved even if they can do 0 rl

50% deficit is what they are working with

thx bois ur lib burst did 5 digit damage

[tulip quest]

my bracket would be fun if people turn off their brains and attack

I Just wanna be an animal sometimes

They want peace

[hollow lagoon]

u are an animal

and then i look at your pfp

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/macaulay-culkin-merry-christmas-ya-filthy-animal-gif-13110096

[hollow lagoon]

@tulip quest pfp is not a rhino all this time?

[tulip quest]

it's a bug

Cocoon yet

but gonna change into an ANIMAL

[hollow lagoon]

i 100% though it was just a green rhino

[shell hazel]

it is a green rhino

[hollow lagoon]

oh thx i'm validated

[shell hazel]

np bro

[hollow lagoon]

@tulip quest green rhino

[shell hazel]

zanta can you make me some kind of baked goods that look like I'm eating body parts? thanks

[hollow lagoon]

Good nuff for u?

[shell hazel]

is cursed can confirm

sasuga zanta

[hollow lagoon]

Nah it’s just dough

With a coat

I can also make rabbits

If u prefer not hand

[tulip quest]

MAKE HEADS so it looks like Nikke

[hollow lagoon]

I’m not that good

[swift mango]

Done spent 20 minutes, so 10 minutes more than last CA. 🫃

To make teams

[swift mango]

Looks like a deformed Bell Pepper

[swift mango]

If you could 3 buff Scarlet at start of the game you could probably win 50% deficit.

[hollow lagoon]

plausable

[noble hatch]

Pog Zanta's hand reveal

[hollow lagoon]

[oak hatch]

@ripe aurora they put me all the way in the last group, what’s ur matchmaking looking like

I’m against ca winner of bot lobby

[ripe aurora]

Groups 12, 32 and 64 are of interest.
Cindoro got matched with 3mil guy I was probably remembering about. But his teams are indeed just cp padded.
Me, I got lemoned.
Yours at a glance seem doable.

[quaint anchor]

are there resources that i can read to learn about how pvp works

[oak hatch]

Breh bad luck against lemon, might still win anyway his teams r kinda weird last ca

[quaint anchor]

would like to try breaking into top 3

[oak hatch]

They so far away from me

[ripe aurora]

We got another union member into CA

[oak hatch]

who

[ripe aurora]

Noctan in group 12

[oak hatch]

His teams tho rip

[ripe aurora]

Top4 from my spa got all easy groups.
Except me.
I got freaking Lemon

[oak hatch]

Which group are u

[ripe aurora]

32

[oak hatch]

I wanna see if it’s winnable

[ripe aurora]

Probably isn't realistically.
I didn't check.
I just chose to be pessimistic to manage expectations

[oak hatch]

2 4 5 may be winnable but not too sure besides 2

[swift mango]

[oak hatch]

Ye 4 prob also a win, it just comes down to round 5

[ripe aurora]

If I win that I find you and Zanth and kiss you both on the mouth

[oak hatch]

[ripe aurora]

Faking your death is futile btw

[oak hatch]

What that mean

[ripe aurora]

If I speak I am in big trouble

Some of those groups, damn.
One guy got 2.2 2.1 and 2mil in his group, from when I was browsing.
Why it can't be us?

[oak hatch]

I praying u win but yeah rng sucks sometimes

[ripe aurora]

The only thing going for me is that my team 5 is my most invested team

[oak hatch]

Ya ur team is hella tanky too against sbs which isn’t that great now

[fast nest]

[oak hatch]

What happened

[fast nest]

Why am I at a front group?

[worn ridge]

What should i use to get the triple win ?

[oak hatch]

Dunno, on the other hand I’m in the last group

[fast nest]

[swift mango]

@umbral crown This is Libby killing bay over her cover. His Moran lasted 40 seconds so I stopped recording early.

I didn't use Rumani this CA.

Let's see how far that works.

My Nayuta only s3 lv9.... Bruh... I should have upgraded her during SR but forgot and upgraded Drake+B.Sods s3 instead.

[oak hatch]

Slow Cindy wins against faster Cindy with Noah?

[swift mango]

Most the time

Defending on how fast and slow that is ofc.

[oak hatch]

3 rl vs standard slow Cindy team

[swift mango]

I see no one with proper team in your groupt.

Aside from you.

[hollow lagoon]

bout time i get a easy one

[hollow lagoon]

idk if u can call my teams "proper" either

[swift mango]

I don't know your team or theirs, I just look at the 5 nikke and the CP.

[wind kelp]

Highest CP, lowest expectation, hugest fun

Go team 4!

[swift mango]

Gotta use Rumani next CA but not now.

Got a new ideal but too late to change.

50 mins too late

[ripe aurora]

And this guy wanted to get into our CA bracket

[swift mango]

Nah you guys should come to mine. It's just right.🤏

[swift mango]

I didn't have much luck with 2.5rl Nayuta. You could be luckier.

Come to think of it. I would need my Vesti at 15-18% CS soon.

18% Vesti would give me leeway for lots of things.

16% Vesti
23% Emi
40% ATK Rosa. The list is long...

[umbral crown]

Waos

[swift mango]

Your team looks fine aside from p1 Midhara could make you lose to back shot SG.

[swift mango]

Bugged Libby but no one care, nor know.

[glad meteor]

You still think it’s bug?

[swift mango]

What else but bug it is.

[glad meteor]

Cover destroyed by lib hits

[swift mango]

It's not, watch the video. Bay cover basically at full and she died.

[glad meteor]

I did watch

And the cover died

[swift mango]

The same time Bay died.

The same time everyone but Moran and Rumani died.

[glad meteor]

Looks like there was a little cover left, probably aoe as calculated after the 5 hits

[umbral crown]

[wind kelp]

Looking more at the opponent teams etc, doubt i'll win this round. Bit of a bad matchup roster, buuut, if the treasure team gets one win, i'm happy 😄

[swift mango]

If it was the normal attack you would see timing varied when the cover down between different match up. Libby just doesn't deal that high dmg. Even with a 160% buff, just look at how she doesn't make a dent on Moran afterwards for 10 seconds.

The cover died first then the nikke is just the normal dying order. But the timing difference is just immediately.

[glad meteor]

Lib atk buff only last 3s though

[swift mango]

Yeah, 160% atk buff isn't magically x10 her dmg.

[glad meteor]

She just needs to do enough dmg to kill cover

[swift mango]

The cover HP is more than a nikke HP.

She doesn't make a dent on Moran alone in the rest of the burst.

[glad meteor]

That’s doable though

[swift mango]

It's not.

[glad meteor]

Moran has dmg reduction stacked and libs attacks aren’t instant damage in huge chunks, so moran can use her s2 to just stay alive

[swift mango]

7 second without that buff should deal more than 3 second with that buff.

If she is strong enough to normal attack the cover then she is strong enough to kill Moran from half hp

Moran basically lived to 40 seconds in

[glad meteor]

Moran stacks defence though, atk stat negates that

[swift mango]

She has 23% from Helm, 50% from fbb, 50% dmg from herself, 40% ATK from OL.
If 160% ATK alone bring her dmg to even x3 compared to that then I'm your son.

[glad meteor]

[gaunt pulsar]

cover takes 92% of all received dmg under bay burst and i'm not sure if the same rules of dmg reduction is even applied to it or if dmg even have to go through moran first, it seems like when bay skill is active it's just straight up goes past all def moran has and treats lib shot at moran as dmg to cover at 92% ratio
if her basic attack multi of 69% is enough to drop cover by 45-50% like on screenshot, she definitely destroys cover with all 5 additional landing, what happened here though i dont really know, as their team died right when first additional shot happened and like on the same frame or frame after her burst hits

[swift mango]

Dmg have to go through Moran dr and def first. To get to the Cover. I purposely used nikke that doesn't deal much dmg in this video. Would do no helm tomorrow

I mean they calculated the DMG deal to Moran before past it to cover.

That's why Moran is best to go with Bay.

[swift mango]

If you have anyone to ask the team you could try Libby against Moran+Bay team with Biscuit, so it's 100% sure her normal attack deals zero dmg. Maybe we could ask Keripo.

And his whale friend.

[swift mango]

@spiral onyx Thank you in advance if you could do this for us.

[glad meteor]

You have red role. People should listen to you

[swift mango]

Nah, you need an MA role for that. @keen vapor

[glad meteor]

I have no one to ask

[gaunt pulsar]

ok it wasn't 45%, quality just bad i think, still lib hit cover for 3.3 mil with burst then dmg started to calculate to others i dont think we have whole info

[covert lintel]

Many matches will be interesting to watch🍿

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

If there was 3.3mil in number then that's definitely her burst. Her normal attack can't do that.

The cover was basically at full then 0. There was nothing indicating multi large hits of hp in the video .

Okay, my bad, I looked at the wrong bar the entire time lol

[gaunt pulsar]

yea i think 3.3mil was from around 70 to 0 of her cover
from big number we see it was 3.3 mil besides small hits that happen to cover, then 2.09mil to bay that i would assume at that point gets split at 40/15/15/15/15 ratio cause cover is dead and others recieve 787k, then bay dies and we see 2.6mil crit to each of 4 characters left, bay doesn't have that number above her that all in 1 frame though so bunch of internal calculations

number just appear postfactum

[swift mango]

@glad meteor My bad I was looking at the wrong HP bar when I said the cover was intact until Libby nuke landed... It was about 50% actually...

But this last number could kinda only be Libby nuke, her Normal attack isn't this strong.

Or maybe it is
Well, I don't care anymore.

[shell hazel]

@crystal flicker you made it despite not being alive

i'm in with these chumps

for some reason all 3 of my opponents are running stall comps with helm at t1 😄

[dim escarp]

Again against one of my SPA fella (mikal)

[shell hazel]

haha

you're in group 1 I found you first!

[dim escarp]

they really love you

[shell hazel]

[dim escarp]

should be ok this time for me lol

[shell hazel]

I don't really care that much anymore haha, after 19 beta seasons of CA

[dim escarp]

[shell hazel]

if I survive then cool - if not then cool 😄

[dim escarp]

[hollow lagoon]

[swift mango]

Darn I missed out on a sale, 47 products 1 minutes ago then pop 0 too much yapping hurt my budget fr now.

[wheat heart]

can someone explain what this is and why I can set it to off, one or two? Is it random or is there some way to always trigger it?

It's a feature on Red Hood

increases burst timing by almost 0.5 RL

[glad meteor]

Random kinda

Sometimes her pierce hits cover. Sometimes it doesn’t

[wheat heart]

ahhh and if it hits cover it triggers?

[glad meteor]

Yeah

[wheat heart]

thank you

[shell hazel]

oh god

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

Youngest account but highest cp

[swift mango]

Better not count on it triggering more than once per fight.

So like extra 2.5%

[shell hazel]

best player is why 😄

[radiant coral]

Anyone else getting bum rates for the crystals that they’re getting from interception

[summer copper]

if you mean rocks, those are normal rates

[oblique magnet]

is brid (assuming definitely no for diesel) must have for pvp? spent 60k gems and no dice. i don't want to tap into my golden ticket reserve, lol

[shell hazel]

for pvp? no, more for raid pve

she's not clip SG so probably won't see a lot of use, be interesting to see if anyone runs her this CA though

[scarlet adder]

https://nikke.work/ doesn't work ?!

[shell hazel]

try nikke.top site

[hollow lagoon]

[scarlet adder]

woah thank you

it even has lib, finallly

[shell hazel]

yeah same sort of thing just someone updated it

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel rock back to 0

3 ele

geee

better than my helm now

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-early-birthday-now-gimmee-gif-15731324811646516558

[hollow lagoon]

i paid dearly for thous rolls

still 2 missing line3 but

i'm content

[leaden canyon]

Man I need rail to figure this puzzle of an attack out

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/out-of-office-on-vacation-ooto-unavailable-out-of-the-office-gif-26667196

you will only have ascended once you've got red chat text

[leaden canyon]

oh thank you, I was wondering how people were getting to it with .work not working anymore

[shell hazel]

same thing but some updates - unsure if there are other clones

[leaden canyon]

Well it just helped me figure out how to beat the puzzle

Who needs rail anyway (please come back)

[shell hazel]

[quartz vortex]

do i get stat checked here?

[gaunt pulsar]

cp checked, you need at least 264k for it not to be in deficit

[quartz vortex]

guess its time to grind campaign or something

[gaunt pulsar]

team you fighting isn't really a team but they gonna hurt even with basic attacks at that deficit, especially when you tanking with unlinked unit

[quartz vortex]

how would you position it?

i wanted to get redhood b1 and noah b2

[gaunt pulsar]

depends on who in linked? sbs and helm or sbs and red hood, or red hood and helm, idk
for that fight you can tank with any of your dps as long as they are linked, might as well survive more before your noah bursts, but preferably with sbs

jackal links 2 units with highest attack to herself

[quartz vortex]

sbs and helm highest base atk

in that comp

[gaunt pulsar]

good, do you have anything better in cp while we at it?

[quartz vortex]

alice is my highest at 74k

[gaunt pulsar]

or maybe nayuta

[quartz vortex]

yeah i have her too

[gaunt pulsar]

show box, top 2 rows is probably enough

[quartz vortex]

i was putting noah to the edge since she taunts

[gaunt pulsar]

how much cp is this?

[quartz vortex]

276679

[gaunt pulsar]

eh even over, if this is over 264 can send

[quartz vortex]

263930

[gaunt pulsar]

then alice, they gonna feed like crazy anyway

[quartz vortex]

alice got her boots at 5 thats why

[gaunt pulsar]

but no deficit

[quartz vortex]

how big of a difference is going from 2rl to 3?

its like 1 more auto right?

[gaunt pulsar]

quite significant, not for that match though, your opponent is like 6rl or even 7

[quartz vortex]

should i put it as defence team as well?

thats the current one

[gaunt pulsar]

nah, def should be different, probably would go with something like this just so you couldn't get gapped by likes of him

[quartz vortex]

same positioning?

[gaunt pulsar]

if there people like him that just build 300k+ teams you not gonna last with your noah, just not enough invest in her or jackal yet, better to use jackal to bloat your hp pull and provide speed, also allows you to use your better invested nayuta, while liberalio doesn't really need any buffs to wipe screens, just level her burst, and skill 1 to at least 7, but better 10/7/10 if possible

[gaunt pulsar]

yes like that

[quartz vortex]

yeah my invested units are mostly pve i think

[shell hazel]

[quartz vortex]

youd position it like that?

[rustic sandal]

Phew. I can still keep up...

Only for like a few minutes.

[gaunt pulsar]

here problems with this def so you would get some insight:

• cp is too low, you can easily get gapped by anything above 284k power
• your scarlet gets stunned by siren easily forcing you to attack with red hood which shoots only at 1 enemy at the time
• sbs even though works but there a few workarounds on how to negate her dmg completely + she is slow and deals not so much dmg, red hood helps but still not on the same level due to her dmg being distributed
• your noah taunts and doesn't really have much invest or biscuit protection so there is a chance she dies especially when you are cp gapped

[gaunt pulsar]

i've send you how to position for def, nayuta in p1 when she is solo b2 is bad idea, for attack sure she can tank as long as there no siren on the enemy team to stun her, but not for def

[quartz vortex]

i see

how much investment would you have to put into noah or jackal?

like 12 lines lvl 5 and sr15 doll or could be more whatever

[gaunt pulsar]

me few month ago also couldn't hold, but i was fighting

[rustic sandal]

See. I literally can't hold my rank for more than an hour. I'm weak, and have no PvP units.

I was C6 2 weeks ago.

Now I'm getting pushed as far as D4.

My units are barely serviceable that I had to change my wishlist to accomodate at least a few of them.

[gaunt pulsar]

for jackal start with R15 doll, if you have purple dolls throw to make it SR5 and dont level more, she gets dmg reduction with it and that should be enough, next just OL her gear, nothing crazy, 1 rock in each, if you get 2 random lines - good, if 3 - perfect, if 1 - bad but can reroll with few rocks, you shouldn't worry about getting charge speed lines on her or anything like that but investing in her will pay you back significantly as you gonna use her alot
noah i wouldn't go crazy about 1-2 OL pieces would be enough for now, she just drives your cp down together with jackal and like it loses all it's purpose even having her in team then, depends on your opponents power though

[pure moss]

@gritty ridge I might not win this

[gritty ridge]

Its ok

You got this

[pure moss]

The dude is 743

[gaunt pulsar]

yeah you missing alot of crucial units that just kill your teams without them, luckily we getting helm in bonus recruit and there gonna be SSR selector on new year, maybe some free pulls also meta banner so chances to get someone will be there

[pure moss]

I'm only 709. He has recycle advantage

[gritty ridge]

It dont matter

[rustic sandal]

As long as I'd get to have 2000 gems every 2 weeks then I'm good.

I'd hate to receive lower.

[quartz vortex]

you could always try to invest in units that can pvp and pve at the same time thats what i did

[pure moss]

Become a whale, like me

[rustic sandal]

VestiTU has some investments. Idk about xMaiden though. Are there anyone else I should consider?

[rustic sandal]

I'm not rich. I don't have a job yet. That's gonna have to wait next year.

[shell hazel]

RH cindy nayuta siren etc

helmT is a big one

[quartz vortex]

i did it for treasure helm, drake, laplace

[gaunt pulsar]

11-30 should be serviceable for a while, it's just a huge battleground, i only left it myself recently, before even though i was holding at ch7-ch10 still could get thrown to d1-d3 in 2 steps by just other people that had solutions for my teams or was visitors to ch7-ch10 themselves

[pure moss]

Tbay Thelm Tpoli

[rustic sandal]

They all have mid to max investments.

No Siren tho. Still cursed.

[pure moss]

Mihara

[rustic sandal]

Sirenless is the new Literless for me.

[pure moss]

You don't need siren for pvp

[ripe aurora]

I got t. Laplace, woo

[quartz vortex]

lib and sbs can do both too

[pure moss]

Sbs kinda wack in pvp now

Same with sanis and alice

[shell hazel]

yeah sbs less so at this point I reckon

[rustic sandal]

Well, hopefully they drop soon.

[quartz vortex]

you need arcana?

[pure moss]

Do you have mihara and rapipi?

[rustic sandal]

No. I just don't know who else to put.

[ripe aurora]

Does new year's ssr selector include pilgrims or it's the regular selector

[rustic sandal]

Only Rapi. No MiharaOS yet.

[gaunt pulsar]

vesti, cindy, lib, rh, nayuta, rrh, helm when you get her, others you have not so much, you need before you get more

[quartz vortex]

go for arcana only if you got isabel

[pure moss]

Wishlist mihara instead of sbs

[shell hazel]

no pilgrims or anything for sure

[quartz vortex]

isnt mihara less versatile ?

[rustic sandal]

My 2 year old account that had a Cored Isabel would've loved that statement. I hate her.

[rustic sandal]

Regular Vesti?

[quartz vortex]

just go for dupes

[gaunt pulsar]

tu

[quartz vortex]

if you need to have more 3 stars units

to get passed 160

[oak hatch]

u building her next?

[quartz vortex]

how worth is t laplace? i got her to 3 stars too but not sure if i should go all in

[rustic sandal]

I already have her.

[rustic sandal]

I have all these except Helm.

[gaunt pulsar]

yeah i saw, it was about on who to invest both for pve and pvp versatile

[quartz vortex]

id say to keep getting her until you can treasure it

[rustic sandal]

Hmm ye. They all have recommended to maximum investments. And even OL gears.

[oak hatch]

She very good but treasure character takes so much doll mats early on in the game

[rustic sandal]

I'm trying. Life sucks.

[oak hatch]

Maybe there r other characters u want to build first

[rustic sandal]

I opened a Mold, see it's Elysion, and then it's Brid.

Life sucks.

[quartz vortex]

idk if youre willing to spend but if you are you can get those deals 1$ for 2 pulls thatll prob help you

[pure moss]

First time?

[rustic sandal]

$1 is too much.

[ripe aurora]

I guess I am.
Got accidental Sr rl doll from last solo raid, and since she's useful for missilis tower decided to Yolo on her.
Got super lucky to 0-5 with just 4 blue kits and 5-10 with 2 purples.
Didn't have anything until today (would be useful to treasure before CA) but 2 more purples and I have her p3 treasure.
So I guess when I'm done OL on Trina she's my next project.

[gaunt pulsar]

yea, 580 standard pulls - 1 helm, life sucks

[eager brook]

Don't play gacha until you get some income or else accept to be whale fodder til then

[pure moss]

Also don't buy molds, buy manufacturer recycle materials

[rustic sandal]

I'm fine being F2P.

[keen vapor]

You talking as if F2P couldn't exist

[ripe aurora]

Helm coming this new years update to special recruit pool

[rustic sandal]

Well, not necessarily F2P, I bought that rookie package.

$1 for 10 blue recruit vouchers. I didn't even get anything from them.

[quartz vortex]

i think some just choose to be f2p willingly too

[pure moss]

I'm f2p

[gaunt pulsar]

yeah i know, i'm prepared, still didnt wanted to come before at all

[oak hatch]

Wow nice that is huge, my main problem are doll mats so I’m hesitant to upgrade mine

[rustic sandal]

Some are forced. Not everyone has a passive income and/or stable life to have money to spend.

[ripe aurora]

Watch you get her from friendship pull just before the update

[oak hatch]

I’m using other burst gen characters for her as replacement atm

[quartz vortex]

i think this game is the one ive spent the most money on but i dont really have regrets over it unlike some others

[pure moss]

Some of us still live in our parents' basement and make enough to afford gacha game

[ripe aurora]

Meanwhile t. Vesti eats all of my doll mats to go from 10-15 Sr doll

[quartz vortex]

this gatcha game feels more fair than other ones ive played

[gaunt pulsar]

wouldn't mind but i still gonna have 300 points ready for her, and i dont need others from there, so it's at least mlb right away

[oak hatch]

Just did Drake and they took all of mine also brave of u to directly slap on a sr doll

[ripe aurora]

Did it once before with Rapi.
1st blue mat - 0-5 so basically r15 doll right there.
Did it with centi too when was slipping in my spa.
Didn't go as well

[rustic sandal]

Alice ate 350 blue kits for her R doll. It's absolutely sickening.

[quartz vortex]

bless that drake event it help me so much

[rustic sandal]

I literally failed the 27% super succ. 5 times!!

[quartz vortex]

mlb+pass 160+ pve+pvp unit

[oak hatch]

Yeah did a couple time just cuz I wasn’t patient and sometimes it pays off

[quartz vortex]

just use blue tools that's what i do

[rustic sandal]

Exactly. I used 350 of them to R15 Alice...

At that point I should've just used purple kits.

[quartz vortex]

offf

[oak hatch]

I feel like this game is not as expensive as long as u not whaling for mats, like in genshin if u wanna c6 one character thats $1k+ and not even considering weapon yet

[ripe aurora]

I got ultra unlucky with 60% on Liberalio.
Had basically to go from Sr 5-10 with manually without super success.

[quartz vortex]

genshin isnt fair cuz you get extra passive with dupes and without it some arent as playable

[oak hatch]

[quartz vortex]

played during release for a year back then and just felt meh

if you want to play a world exploring game where winds meets is a lot better

[oak hatch]

Yeah genshin always baiting with constellations, on the other hand this game baits by giving u very limited upgrade resources

[quartz vortex]

and they only got gatcha skins

[oak hatch]

And gacha skins yeah

[ripe aurora]

Genshin also sells you the weapon that is essentially part of character's kit.
Imagine having to pull for Helm's sniper rifle because burst gen is there.

Otherwise you stuck with using Sr sniper with shity life steal

[quartz vortex]

skills scales weapon?

[oak hatch]

Fr lol everything’s a bait in that game

[quartz vortex]

myhoyo tries to milk they players way too much

[ripe aurora]

On the other hand in nikke we got rocks.
Or rather we have zero rocks.
And overwhelming need to have millions of them

[oak hatch]

I used to play it but had to stop cuz too time consuming with the exploration stuff

[hollow lagoon]

[oak hatch]

Nikke good no headache from exploration

[oak hatch]

Or u can buy 20 rocks for $100

[quartz vortex]

i usually just farm rocks and when i got a bunch i tap it like a few times

[hollow lagoon]

I’m just glad my sdoro is not terribad now

[ripe aurora]

I probably exact opposite.
I loved exploration in genshin, world design there is top notch.
And when you do quests and exploration puzzled world changes around.
It was cool.
It's pointless yapping in dialogue and garbage story that got me done with the game.

[quartz vortex]

i think it depends how much youre trying to min max your units i gues

[hollow lagoon]

What hooked me into the game was Cindy and Old tales event Lel

[ripe aurora]

Half of the reason I got Blanc's gacha skin was 4 rocks.
And doll mats

[quartz vortex]

same i like exploration and lore

[hollow lagoon]

I got blanc’s skin for the lack of pants

[quartz vortex]

i feel like the story gets intersting during big events and most of the time its them repeating the same thing

[hollow lagoon]

Ain’t that same with NIKKE tho, big event stories are more exciting

[oak hatch]

Couldn’t resist on blanc skin either

[quartz vortex]

did 40 stages of ch 28 and realized it was an introduction to the story only

[hollow lagoon]

But Nikke’s good with the trauma thing so people need a break in between

[oak hatch]

lol yeah that’s exactly the opposite of me, I used to like stories but then I grew to prefer playing end game and not having to spend as much time on the game. So anything that takes a long time to do I rather just not do

[ripe aurora]

Until there is another ptsd event around the corner with baseball bat

[hollow lagoon]

i was scared with the killing off character thing

during 2.5

cuz i pulled siren and siren's advice session has no commander or anything

i was like nooooooooo please dont have her killed off

[oak hatch]

Nikke the perfect game for skipping stories and afk

[quartz vortex]

i do like the side stories too sometimes like the current terminus one wasnt bad

[hollow lagoon]

i liked the terminus one ye

[ripe aurora]

I swear one day I will go back and read the chapter 1-34 story

[oak hatch]

I didn’t read anything at all on this game

All I’ve known is the skip button

[hollow lagoon]

lel

[ripe aurora]

Imagine if pvp had unskippable lore

[hollow lagoon]

[quartz vortex]

what would pvp lore even be?

[oak hatch]

[ripe aurora]

Mustang shenanigans

[hollow lagoon]

the world was good, comps was balanced, our guiding star railtracer ruled with wisdom, then came Zantarath the forever Cursed

[oak hatch]

Wanting to bully synchro 200 players

[hollow lagoon]

sigh

[ripe aurora]

When you get to 38-32 in story - don't skip it.
Unless you mald too much on the stage itself.

[oak hatch]

I actually don’t think I’m getting there anytime soon

I have too many characters to build before sbs and maid anchor

[hollow lagoon]

@oak hatch why ye mad, i'm the only one where both name and union is english

i hold the gate of the asia dominance

[oak hatch]

[ripe aurora]

When you get through black snek - it's straight shot to chapter 40 with its bs stages

[oak hatch]

Dang 3 easy chapters

[hollow lagoon]

man everything past 32 sucks cuz of the volleyballs

[ripe aurora]

I think Keys is on my friend list. Hmm

[oak hatch]

Nayuta made it super easy, she basically spawn kills them

[ripe aurora]

There is also those teleporting balls hiding in the crowds

[hollow lagoon]

not on my deficit she aint

[oak hatch]

Which teleporting balls

[hollow lagoon]

the chapter 38+ stuff

[oak hatch]

Ah I didn’t face it yet then

Do I stop my pvp investment to build up pve for a bit

Or do I try to get champ frame first

[hollow lagoon]

if u can do spa

ur prob in a good pvp spot

[oak hatch]

Even if I might not ever get it

[hollow lagoon]

ca is whale realm

champ frame bruh

u get it then u see people with better tier ones, u just end up wanting to use tier 3 raid frames

[ripe aurora]

So there's like group of 4+ balls that you need to kill super quick, otherwise they tp around and your health go puff.
A version of volleyballs I guess.
Problem is they are often in stages where they are bodyblocked by a ton of other Raptures on screen.

[oak hatch]

I swear I just want the first tier one

[oak hatch]

Sounds like fun

[hollow lagoon]

the one with the star is 180% better

[oak hatch]

[ripe aurora]

That's what 3 champ wins?

[hollow lagoon]

2

[oak hatch]

How did u come to this calculation

[versed mesa]

If you have SBS the volleyballs die real easy

[hollow lagoon]

cuz the star flashes

and that's 180% more budget

[oak hatch]

worth it

Time to invest until I get 2 ca wins

[hollow lagoon]

the ca frames are the only animated frames oh wow

its just 2 win and u get the star

3 is lame

4 is nice tho

[oak hatch]

Gotta be super lucky and leviathan to get that

[hollow lagoon]

i actually want this one the most

[ripe aurora]

I wonder if top5 count goes up when you get top1?

[oak hatch]

Ur rank 1 should be close too no?

[hollow lagoon]

still does

[hollow lagoon]

nope, i wasnt whaleing at first, them chinese whales got to it first

i still love dis one tho

[quartz vortex]

damm just realized how good jackal is in missilis tower with high deficit

nobody dies

[oak hatch]

F so they started ur journey to becoming leviathan

[hollow lagoon]

thx to dis guy farming me 5X every day and made me mad

i synced up and developed a counter comp

[oak hatch]

understandable

[ripe aurora]

Great, because

[oak hatch]

Too weak to get on sr museum ranking

[ripe aurora]

Yeah I don't think it's possible before sl350+
Since you need to reach certain threshold of medals before even appearing on that leaderboard

And probably 400+ realistically

[hollow lagoon]

if u think u can get it at 350 i have bead news for u

[oak hatch]

[ripe aurora]

Yeah it's basically solo raid but without level cap, right?

[hollow lagoon]

stage 20 ultra was done by me at 481, granted my investments are all over the place and because i whale sync but still

i imagine with good iron units now people can make it 441 or 461

[placid bloom]

nah I think you need at least like 450

to have basic survival durability

[hollow lagoon]

u can live at 400 tbh

[ripe aurora]

I like how you say basic

[oak hatch]

450 is like what? Two years of playing?

[placid bloom]

well on like Crown team sure 400 okay

but on your weaker team gl living at sync 400

[hollow lagoon]

ultra is quite oppressive

[placid bloom]

you will get mowed down

[ripe aurora]

Year and a few months if you keep the pace of 20sl per month

[hollow lagoon]

i lived but its hard to make progress at 400 ye

[placid bloom]

I'm 404 13 months in, I think can even be faster now with new chapters

maybe 3 more months for 450

or so

[oak hatch]

20 a month without buying core dust?

[placid bloom]

you won't reach 20/month without buying wipeout or reroll dispatch if you are f2p

you have to be at least light spender

[ripe aurora]

I think it's realistic. Ish.
I am roughly on that pace.
Only monthly pass boxes and few extra Wipeouts per week

[placid bloom]

16-17 is more expected if you are not gonna gem for anything other than event HM runs

ofc it also depends on how heavy you mald campaign too

[oak hatch]

Doing 2 paid wipeouts a day now

[placid bloom]

full clear NM and 40%+ deficit HM will get more mileage out of their cd box than casual clear

[oak hatch]

Still some ways to go until I full clear NM

Don’t know if it’s worth stopping my pvp investment still for campaign

It’s like by the end of me upgrading the characters I need for campaign, my bracket will gain like 200k cp over me

[placid bloom]

if you can reasonably get CP for campaign from sources that are not sync then campaign should be your focus

like rolling your 1 line gear into 3 line

[ripe aurora]

Yeah later chapters have so many bs gated stages it's crazy.
I was malding on 38-32 for 10 hours, just because I needed sbs to survive till second burst

[placid bloom]

but at a certain point it becomes pretty expensive to get CP from anything that's not just waiting on sync

that's usually when you stop investing as hard in campaign and spread to other content

[oak hatch]

Nah cp isn’t the problem for me, the issue I’m facing rn is that I need sbs and maid anchor for normal mode black snake, but they both are mega wasted for PvP so I haven’t upgraded either

[ripe aurora]

Anchor can be decent on cp pad team

[placid bloom]

it depends on how long you will be stuck without them tbh

if you are gonna be stuck for 1 week sure not investing is fine

if you are gonna be stuck for 1 month then that's not really good

[oak hatch]

Prob as long as I don’t upgrade those characters I won’t clear it

They have 0 investment

[ripe aurora]

But, if you have s. Doro you can build her and just dps race

That way you invest in one unit instead of two

[oak hatch]

My account was made during summer anis rerun

Like 2-3 months younger than yours

[ripe aurora]

Oh

[placid bloom]

I know it is tempting to want to squeeze as much gems as you can every SPA season, but you can also think of it long term

if you pull ahead in sync, you might lose like 300 gems every 2 weeks. That's what? 2 pulls a month?

but you'll stabilize a sync lead, then it's just a matter of taking 2-3 months to go back and work on PvP char

[oak hatch]

I’m currently rank 2, rank 1 basically free too if I try, problem is everyone basically same cp or 100k apart so the moment I start pve invest they gonna get ahead easy

[placid bloom]

but your sync lead remains forever

[ripe aurora]

You can also annoy your spa rivals into them putting not nice things about you in their profile signature.
Then you report them and get them banned.
Profit.

[oak hatch]

op strat

[ripe aurora]

I got one guy like that.
Took me three weeks of tickets tho

[placid bloom]

you can change your choice depending on your rival's campaign progress too

if you see that they are all slacking then you have more room to slack

but the moment shuffle occurs and someone higher sync comes in you are in trouble

it's much harder to climb back from sync disadvantage than from roster disadvantage

[oak hatch]

That’s true but sync gains more impactful than PvP character upgrades? At most it’s gonna get me to clear like 4 chapters more, idk if that’s worth

[placid bloom]

sync disadvantage is usually permanent, roster on the other hand can be changed in a matter of 2-3 month of heavy invest at most

thing is you also have to consider the fact that shuffle will bring in people that eventually you cannot beat

and in that case you want to have an advantage not only over rank 4-6, but also rank 7 and below

making sure they can never swing over you

[oak hatch]

I wonder what they said lol

[placid bloom]

the less people that can swing over you the more stable you are

[ripe aurora]

Well invested campaign team is also a great cp pad for spa.
One guy in my spa has 480k team.
I can't really touch that one with any of my pvp teams because deficit.

Basically guy had a sig with calls to report me, because I was sniping him right after he climbed for a few hours

[oak hatch]

Sync isn’t thaaat big of a problem for me tbh so idk how impactful a few more chapters will be, me and my rival is now 20+ sync over the others because they decided to wanna buy daily core packs

[placid bloom]

I mean I am 15-20 sync over most of the people below me because of campaign progress it does matter after a certain point

[oak hatch]

Ur vesti team can surely clear that

[placid bloom]

it does depend how much faster you are actually clearing vs them ofc

[eager brook]

I thought shuffles could never bring people who started too long ago?

[placid bloom]

if you are only like 1 week ahead then you won't gain a big advantage

[ripe aurora]

I could try.
But on the other hand.
3rd place is very cozy and nobody attacked me for 13 days.
I just don't want to spoil good times while they last

[north brook]

smart investment is really key

[eager brook]

I mean as long as it's not 6 months+ that's fine

[placid bloom]

shuffle is only around your account creation range usually yes but you can definitely end up with people that outspend you by a lot

that you previously did not have

unless you know for sure you are the top dog of your account range

[ripe aurora]

I was so afraid of the last shuffle.
Turned out we were the whales all along. (except I am not a whale)

[oak hatch]

Before reshuffle everyone synced ahead of me even when I was ahead 2-3 chapters

[placid bloom]

unlucky

[oak hatch]

Power of the credit card

[placid bloom]

ofc there is some influence from account creation time, usually the people that make their account around anni have the biggest competition from influx of new rich players

meanwhile if you make your account during unpopular event you get less competition

but your starting roster have higher chance to be shit

[oak hatch]

U can use them as practice tbh, just send in one team at a time so u wont take their spot

[ripe aurora]

I think, maybe me and frenzy benefit from being year 3 accounts.
Less whales per 100 players than day 1.
More people quit earlier too.

[placid bloom]

nothing is ever guaranteed

[oak hatch]

Me practicing on top 1 player they must think I’m ass

[placid bloom]

the whale in my Arks ranking didn't start spending until like 1-2 months in

you never know what can happen

[oak hatch]

@ripe aurora u started during doro banner?

[ripe aurora]

Yeah, at the tail end of sb collab.
Didn't even got to play the collab event

[oak hatch]

Oh i started on na during s doro banner, it was on na server and i bricked it so i went to global

Feel like that time period is like what kuwon said, much more whales since s doro was pretty popular

All the ca winners in our current bracket started around that time

[ripe aurora]

I guess anniversary and half anniversary is also very volatile time to start, more player influx = more whales.

[oak hatch]

Still no idea how I got put with ur bracket but ig im catching up now

[ripe aurora]

But I genuinely believe that year 3 of the game life cycle produces less whales per square meter than first year.
We can see it in our CA.
Many players that are pure f2p getting into groups