pvp-arena

[hollow lagoon]

Which means I can’t quantum Laplace so I can’t get 2 rl on that team

So I opted for mana which also gib me 2.5 rl instead of Laplace but have a rez for insurance

Here’s me hoping rosana improve scarlet win rate and thus sg team take a hit on power but sg team wasn’t doing so hot last ca anyway, not that it matters much, my soda is black doll, she can take a hit prob 2.5rl anyway

Might need to get quantum to 8 if I plan to keep running this shit

[nimble swan]

I wanted to run SDoro on SG team but that will need 3 quantum cube slots

since i couldn't build CS on Rumani I need the quantum cubes elsewhere

I'm curious how many people will ditch nero stall for this moran noah stuff

[hollow lagoon]

Well I got my ass spanked

So it is

The catch is you can only really afford to run that is your bay is somewhat decent

[nimble swan]

yeah

my bay is ok, but Vesti has only 2x atk

[hollow lagoon]

Mine only have 3 low rolls

And my vesti only 6/9/7

But u ain’t catching me doing anymore investments before anni

[onyx scaffold]

@tropic summit why did u put CS on vesti lel

[nimble swan]

Mine 7/10/10 I will see how much can I improve things after reset.
But yeah no more pvp investments for a while

[hollow lagoon]

lol

Im still pve player

[nimble swan]

if next wind is raid i will do whatever it takes to catch top 3% :doro:
My wind units are relatively good so I should be able to do it

[hollow lagoon]

Wind are relatively good?

Where are u getting wind units

[nimble swan]

well that 3 units i mean lol

[hollow lagoon]

I should invest my asuka W

But I need to see the pilgrim first

[nimble swan]

wind nayuta

[hollow lagoon]

And no I ain’t resetting my mana

[onyx scaffold]

Same

[hollow lagoon]

Oh my asuka w don’t even have gear

[nimble swan]

SBS and Asuka needs one more ELE and i'm done there

siren could use some improvement

[hollow lagoon]

My sbs is 2 ele

[nimble swan]

[hollow lagoon]

My siren is a bit better than yours

Like atleast I have a lot of crit

[nimble swan]

[nimble swan]

lol that crit rate

[hollow lagoon]

Goal is to roll that 10% crit dmg into like atk or ammo

And that def into something useful

And I’m honestly done

Imma just live my life with 1-3 ele characters

Always get 3% in raids

Do good against neutral

[hollow lagoon]

[nimble swan]

man i need to reroll rapi

[hollow lagoon]

My rapi is mid by most people’s standards but it seems to be better than urs

[nimble swan]

yeah, i speedrun the new chapters and prob start rerolling

[hollow lagoon]

I can’t roll shit

My forward is to wait till I have like 100 rocks and redo characters

[nimble swan]

i will just fix the boots or the vest first

[candid knoll]

Hi guys

[nimble swan]

hi

[candid knoll]

What y'all talking abt

[nimble swan]

spamming the pvp channel with pve* content

I'm still salty because i trashed 19 rocks yesterday on CA teams with next to no results

[eager mountain]

maybe u need 19000 rocks not 19

[nimble swan]

i think u got a point

[hollow lagoon]

Feel my 50 rock rapunzel not being used at all

[spare nimbus]

Does sbs work against bay?

[nimble swan]

RH or Ada buffed certainly, high core 4x atk might do the job too

[spare nimbus]

I failed to 3/3 this guy because i forgot he had bay there instead of rh 💀

I probably need a defender bursting since I don’t want helm to kill whoever is b3

[eager mountain]

just rosa t2 and toss ur scar team somewhere else
oh nvm u won

[candid knoll]

RH mention ?

https://tenor.com/view/red-hood-nikke-red-hood-nikke-my-beloved-red-hood-my-beloved-gif-6735217753366363408

[spare nimbus]

Stinky woman

[nimble swan]

I assume this is a 2RL Bay so one shot nukes will all fail if Bay is in p4.
You need someone with an extended burst like SBS, Ein, Vesti. Emi is good too probably. RH can kill them too

[spare nimbus]

The thing is helm will kill all of these

Since she targets unit with highest attack

[nimble swan]

well yeah I forgot to add you need to protect yourself somehow against helm nuke

[candid knoll]

And that's mine 🙃

[quick lake]

We invest just to bench. Such is meta

Rapun should still be BiS for stall team though

[hollow lagoon]

[rich ledge]

Siren definitely she has around same DPS as SBS and asuka

[nimble swan]

Just give me rocks

[rich ledge]

Me ele for the other 2 is also not good

<@&946725432554836008>

[tropic summit]

wait you don't know vestiTU needs CS%?

[onyx scaffold]

how much?

[tropic summit]

15% is recommended

[onyx scaffold]

[tropic summit]

that enables to hit all the rockets before 2RL happens

she won't be natural 2RL but around 2.2RL timeframe

still enough to allow you to hit B2, which is important if running with indom or noah

[onyx scaffold]

shouldn't 4 atk + crit enough to kill them without bursting?

[tropic summit]

that's situational on enemy comp but you're not mistaken

[onyx scaffold]

i build pvp for long term. i think eventually we will reach 2RL or 2.5RL on all 5 teams. i think damage before burst will matter

the reality im too poor to afford cs on vesti

[tropic summit]

relatable

[swift mango]

Just met the meta of 2025 Maliss. Every single cards in the deck float end board with a bunch of 3000+atk beatsticks that negate and float. Glad you didn't include it in your pet decks.

There is no real grimmick like old decks like Shadoll, Dragon rulers, Burning abyss's float anymore, they just slap floating effect to every single cards of the archetype. Float when sent to graveyard, float when banished. Float everywhere. Beatsticks negate used to be unable to float but not anymore.

Basically your hand is your hand, your deck is hidden hand, your graveyard is your 2nd hand and your banish zone is your 3rd hand.

I guess that's what to be expect of this generation of Yu-Gi-Oh.
Last actual unique grimmick I saw was Sky Strikers deck.

Since miss timing doesn't exist in modem Yu-Gi-Oh anymore and everything float anyway, they should erase that ruling altogether so Gusto could at least be useable without flashing 3 different decks engineer in. And the whole deck been UR, SR cards that couldn't be used in building other decks.

[upper grove]

I despise maliss, playing paper in that format was so painful. That type of gameplay is so stupid

[wicked horizon]

@wind kelp
Requesting war for 3rd place since I have nothing else to do with my tickets.

[swift mango]

I just checked and they could play in your turn 1 if they go second too, more than a common old deck could do in their first turn.
Basically their deck do everything and every cards float.

Guess someone in Konami jerk off so much to White Binder they don't want to think when making archetype anymore.
Give it to a 10 years old and they could make a better gimmick.
OP deck is a fine thing, but a deck that basically do everything with tons of card text in every single card is not. You can't even side deck against it in MD so that's not helping.

[wind kelp]

Sure thing! I can keep Rem in place most the time anyway, so i'll just grab the 3rd now and then to keep in top 4 😄

I'm quite sure when the others are online, so can arrange around that so you don't get dropped to 7. Especially if you're around now'ish usually, or around reset.

Ofcourse just ask here if you need help taking me down, if there's issues 😄

[onyx scaffold]

i hate fomo

[swift mango]

What is this? Don't just post a pic without telling what it is.

[onyx scaffold]

SpA title
if u dont get top 3, your acc is bricked

[swift mango]

I'm a resident top 3 but I'm still bricked.

[mystic rain]

what the

[swift mango]

CN server

[mystic rain]

lmao me being forever top 2

[swift mango]

Don't be so sure about that. Least 3 whale coming right up your next reshuffle.

[mystic rain]

stupid whale

💢 💢 💢

oh actually i had one whale quit the game before

usually i was top 3 cuz of that

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

The only time I saw a whale quit in my bracket was in the first 2-3 months.

[mystic rain]

kinda sad honestly

they spent that amount of money just to quit

now if only toom would quit as well

hes already at black snake hard 😭

swords hes higher campaign progress than u now 😭 😭 😭

and higher sync 😭 😭 😭 😭

pls SU get this man out of my bracket im BEGGING

[swift mango]

I don't really care about campaign anymore. When anniversary come I would open my box and clear mirror. That's it.

[umbral crown]

Nope, later

[swift mango]

Should be tomorrow no?

[mystic rain]

are u already at the 102 cd breakpoint?

[umbral crown]

For you yeah

[mystic rain]

iirc core dust breakpoint is at behemoth

[umbral crown]

And rest of us

[swift mango]

Or is it by the end of today?

[swift mango]

No. 90/hour

[umbral crown]

Tomorrow 11 pm jp time

[mystic rain]

hard 34 should be ur target then before u pop any crates

or wait for 2 new chapters

[umbral crown]

Have not used bay in ages

[swift mango]

Then should be fine I would wait for another 12 hours later to arrange cube.

[umbral crown]

Wonder how i would use hee again

[swift mango]

Use the copy pasta deck if you wanted to use her.

Moran+Helm+Emi+LapT+Bay.

[mystic rain]

helm emi lap in one team is kinda expensive

[umbral crown]

Helm there means no nero team

[umbral crown]

Not really

[gaunt bane]

feel like running 2 low CP but functional team is working against me when opps could just cp gap my functional team
any suggestion to improve? These are pretty much all my invested nikke (+ ada alice with good CP, and other PVP-relevant characters are probably Blanc/Centi/Bsoda/Drake)

I'm thinking to just use attack team which has a CP balance like so
3rd team is pretty much a throwaway

[swift mango]

Yeah ofc not.

[onyx scaffold]

impossible to help if u ask like this lol. it is already hard to balance a cp team even when we know everything we need to

[gaunt bane]

I see lol, guess I'll just have to give it a try then

[wind kelp]

To be fair, if they got like 100+ hours from the game, and spent 80 bucks, it's the same(even better) as any AAA game 😄

[wind kelp]

Pretty much 24h from this reply.

[tropic summit]

T1 is skippable
T2 is dead to scarlet
T3 is dead to noah + helmT

this assumes opponent has got the tools, CP and the knowledge although, but if I was to be honest with you, they're not difficult teams

consider indomming vestiTU and adding stun to a natural 2RL helmT instead

the other team can stay CP pad if you don't have the tools to make a 2RL or 2.5RL

[gaunt bane]

tbh people in my bracket don't have the biggest repertoire so I dont think I'll see Noah HelmT

only real problem is fast scarlet team yea

[tropic summit]

synchro 245 isn't either too early or too late for helmT though

but ofc experience may differ, as long as you got only casuals or mid tier players could be

[gaunt bane]

I suspect the guys I'm fighting with mostly rely on cp pad looking at their def team yea

but then we're gonna have bracket scramble soon anyway.. guess I'll worry about that when the time come

[onyx scaffold]

It is easy.
Using scarlet jackal to kill one team
Cp padding to kill the other team

[gaunt bane]

I'd love to run Noah HelmT to defend against typical scarlet team :S

if I have Noah lol

[mystic rain]

i rushed helmt as my first sr15 on my alt

[tropic summit]

the trio that generally can allow breakin any defense is noah, biscuit and jackal afterall

since biscuit can enable fighting on deficit

[mystic rain]

got her treasure same time as i broke 160 its pretty fun

[mystic rain]

u can run jackal blanc 3RL for def

ur choice of whos ur main dps

[gaunt bane]

yea I'm contemplating that

R15 doll blanc isn't too bad

main dps would probably be vesti

[mystic rain]

its def a better option than anis b2

or naga b2

[gaunt bane]

Naga is for cp pad unfortunately

[mystic rain]

helm treasured?

[gaunt bane]

yep, phase 2 only tho

[mystic rain]

keep running moran bisc sanis then

jackal blanc vesti

ez 2 teams 3rd can just be cp pad

[heavy hearth]

Could I get some help for arena teams?

[scarlet adder]

what rank in sp?

[gaunt bane]

4

[scarlet adder]

same xD

[gaunt bane]

I can beat 2nd & 3rd, but 2nd can take back with cp gap pretty hard

3rd on the other hand spam gem
his team did get better recently so Im not sure how it will go

[scarlet adder]

my whole top3 is paying gems for extra fights so good luck beating them 😄

[gaunt bane]

recently 5th keep ticking me so here I am trying to come up with better def team

[scarlet adder]

my top1 is almost 40 sync levels above me 😮

i am keeping it with my main 2 teams bursting with cindy and rapipi so could be worse than 4 th 😄

[rich ledge]

@shell hazel is this ok? My noise isn't able to link though

[scarlet adder]

if new pilgrim good for pvp, it would be sweet

[shell hazel]

it may work for t1 but linking also brings burst gen benefits via jackal link

this might be too slow with Bay vs Noah - Bay needs to burst in time for various things and Scar 2RL could beat it as a result

[rich ledge]

Hmm but if I put siren as b1 it would defeat the purpose of it right? Is there any idea I can modify the setup?

[shell hazel]

do we need siren here? jackal and noise cover redunant b1's

you're 3RL basically

[placid bloom]

well if you want to be really risky you can Vesti p1

[rich ledge]

I guess the siren is to stun Noah or Blanc or smth

[shell hazel]

may slow you down too much

[quartz rover]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gambling-gif-3937562841362806777

[shell hazel]

noise wants to b1 before scar nuke at the least

[placid bloom]

if they're on Mermaid then Noise taunt already solves Vesti p1 anyway

if they're on Soda then it doesn't matter

[rich ledge]

So I should just forgo siren maybe sub someone else?

[shell hazel]

with xmaiden or lapt then you can get 2.5RL at least

if you have some CS anyway

[onyx scaffold]

What is your Helm's cs?

[shell hazel]

where is your lapT?

[onyx scaffold]

My basement

[rich ledge]

15

[rich ledge]

I don't have her missing dupes to make

[shell hazel]

[shell hazel]

then let her out!

[onyx scaffold]

Swap siren and xmaiden

[rich ledge]

Hmm do I put redhood as b5 siren b4 then?

[onyx scaffold]

yeah siren p5

basically u want to burst with rh b1 on 2nd burst cycle to kill stall

[rich ledge]

I think with maiden its more safe if there's some Rosanna nuke, I guess it's no choice

[onyx scaffold]

not really

shotgun will kill maiden/siren anyway

then rosanna will nuke either helm or rh

ideally it should be rh

[rich ledge]

I have ada too if we would use her instead somewhere

[onyx scaffold]

rosanna shouldn't kill RH but it doesn't matter. u can burst with noah and kill

[rich ledge]

Ada summer anis potential?

[shell hazel]

ada can work OK with vesti I think

[onyx scaffold]

forget anis.
ada can be used in siren place

[shell hazel]

will still be a little slow though, if you can maintain 2.5RL on vesti team then it could function

[rich ledge]

Nah ada would steal jackal link since she is attacker

[shell hazel]

well siren already did anyway

right?

[onyx scaffold]

ah right. but i actually saw some vesti ada

well i also saw Vesti emilia

[rich ledge]

Yea I mean if the link is impt we can only put maiden there so ada has to go to helm team

[onyx scaffold]

so it is ok for noise not to be linked. it is just not ideal...

[shell hazel]

yeah mine died last CA spectacularly to some SG's 😄

but before that, was undefeated

[rich ledge]

I mean there's a way for her to be linked but not sure if it is worth moving maiden over

Then we find a replacement for maiden

[shell hazel]

yeah which frankly is normally LapT

those two kind of fit same niche roll

[onyx scaffold]

ada is better than lapT

[rich ledge]

Yea if no lapT then ada or ASS or smth?

[shell hazel]

Ada gets you more reliably to 2.5RL

[onyx scaffold]

dude stop. he doesn't have lapT

[shell hazel]

I'd run Ada over ASS here, but she could work

sorry I mean Ada

I said LapT pic was Ada 😛

[rich ledge]

I think here we are comparing ada or maiden

[onyx scaffold]

again. I have seem emilia / ada in that slot
so noise doesn't need to be linked.

[shell hazel]

you don't want to slow up the moran/noah/helm too much

you need some CS for some of the units to keep vesti team quick enough

[rich ledge]

My ada has 10% cs

[onyx scaffold]

tbh

i dont trust vesti solo dps

Especially when there is no buffer

[rich ledge]

Previously I do use vesti Blanc yea

[rich ledge]

Eh no Blanc was with mihara

Last CA was this she could kill quite well

But now we move maiden out and put bay in so it slows it down and has less dmg

[onyx scaffold]

Anyway Im done copying people's shit
Will wait for my wins tmr

[rich ledge]

To make the new Moran helm team instead of Nero moran

[shell hazel]

yeah I may run it as well, see how it goes

gonna play about with the teams later

put your ros p5 btw

[rich ledge]

Ros p5 now? Oo

[shell hazel]

that seems to be the recommendation, I don't think it ultimately should matter that much

think it just means she doesn't take splash damage in case p1/p2 die quick

[elfin oar]

Hey guys I need a team for pvp but i have no idea what to do and im so 🧱

[shell hazel]

your soda if strong should be OK at p2, if not move her to p3 or p4

[keen vapor]

New? The 2 rotations one?

[rich ledge]

yea this

[keen vapor]

Have you read pinned messages/ #1153017654332883055 ?

Or do you want someone else to make the teams for you

[rich ledge]

but it is impacting my vesti team

[elfin oar]

i want someone to give me a good team

[keen vapor]

No CS/Emilia/Laplace? 🤨

[keen vapor]

where are your units

[rich ledge]

no emilia since im after the collab, laplace T waiting for anni to hopefull get a dupe. CS there is

11 on vesti 10 on ada

this nikke deck we cant put specific CS im not sure how to count

[elfin oar]

there u go there is one more but i don't think it have anyone useful

[keen vapor]

Makima

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-stab-spongebob-stab-anime-stab-gif-20196230

[elfin oar]

should i use her ?

[keen vapor]

PVP pairs you with people who started around the same time as you

So, your account is essentially since game release

And you're barely above 200 synch

[elfin oar]

these people will eat me alive

[keen vapor]

Synch Bunny Ade and Maiden Ice Rose they're better characters than Mast/Bunny Alice/Soda

[open viper]

[keen vapor]

That's right, your pvp is brick

[open viper]

It's perma bricked 🤝

[elfin oar]

especially this one he's 1st on my server in everything doro every where

[elfin oar]

alr

[keen vapor]

So brick

You can try to copy pinned teams but with that level synch problem you won't get as far

[elfin oar]

I've been collecting nikkes and playing events that's all what i was doing for the past years

[elfin oar]

ill try

[shell hazel]

@oblique gyro not today Void-chan

[nimble swan]

Just need to use bank/credit card and it will get unbricked

[open viper]

Nope I will simply manifest Shift Up uh............ Do something about this

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-monkey-think-monkey-meme-ponder-monkey-idea-gif-6401133862108294696

[nimble swan]

Yeah the matching system is horrible..

[open viper]

Yeah it's a bit demoralizing to have a 2023 account that I've only started playing on like 2 months ago

[shell hazel]

give up on the pvp or start a new account basically only way

[open viper]

But I'm still incentized to try on pvp anyways for the code manuals

So I gotta be a chill guy about it and thug it out

[shell hazel]

for me it's mostly the SPA gems I want

[open viper]

I mean it's both things

But you get a lot more manuals for going up the lower ranks than you do gems if that makes sense

[rich ledge]

If i put maiden here i think it helps with the burst timing alot more it can bring it below 2.5RL it seems

[open viper]

The gems are pretty top loaded

[rich ledge]

then old vesti(ada) here is also below 2.5 RL line

putting maiden instead of ada here doesnt seem to improve the burst speed, so i think i can give maiden to vesti's team

[shell hazel]

yeah but ideally I guess the moran one is native 2RL, needs LapT to do it though I think

[rich ledge]

Im not sure how this compares with nikke deck but with lapT it also doesnt hit 2RL

oh i think the lapT on nikke work is not updated

if i sub in lapT as centi then it hits 2RL. oh well i gotta wait for anni to hopefully get LapT

im not gonna blow my recruit tickets now

[shell hazel]

needs quantum

[elfin oar]

as your experience how long will i last

[rich ledge]

yea but the nikke work is way off lapT is clip SG tier there

[shell hazel]

may be assuming 2RL but is slightly slower

[rich ledge]

rmb there was an update that buffed lapT burst gen they didnt add it in nikke work

ada is not inside as well so i have to sub with a normal RL to test

[shell hazel]

yeah author may be busy/not updated it

shame but does make the LapT gen trickier, let me check

these do match

23.2 gen in 2RL is the same in both

it's your missing quantum I think

add quantum to LapT and both agree it's 2RL

[rich ledge]

ooo i see lol need the quantum

[shell hazel]

yeah but this works as LapT gen is a bit better than xmaiden here

don't think xmaiden can get it to 2RL

[hollow lagoon]

not nuff quantum slot for my cook

[rich ledge]

Nope can't do might as well give maiden to vesti

[hybrid fox]

did u guys sr 15 ur trina
I notice she always die for me

ARE U KIDDING ME
60 GOLDEN MT KIT
NOT EVEN 1 FULL SUCCESS

[keen vapor]

I haven't yet....

[keen vapor]

Rip 😔

[shell hazel]

happened to me on last one lol, similar

[hybrid fox]

wat abt besti sr 15?

[shell hazel]

I did that ages ago

[umbral crown]

of course

[umbral crown]

that too

[shell hazel]

my rumani needs SR-15 still just don't have enough doll mats atm but I will do it

[umbral crown]

we SR15 the important units

[shell hazel]

which is all of them naturally

[umbral crown]

this hahaha

[fathom rock]

Only reason I won T2 is cs lmao

[rich ledge]

Rumani is impt to SR15? she is frequently used with biscuit so mostly surviving by invuln

[umbral crown]

oh, retro in the nero team train

[fathom rock]

I have a pvp alt now

[umbral crown]

of course

[fathom rock]

My nero feel squish tho

[umbral crown]

just need more investment

[fathom rock]

What more can I do

4 def?

[umbral crown]

4 atk so she can take helm burst and survive as it will be 1 damage on her

[fathom rock]

cored moran Vs low dupe nero atk diffed

[umbral crown]

thats a thing then

i need to tune mine also

[keen vapor]

I also want my Vesti to shred like that

[umbral crown]

moran highest atk than nero

[umbral crown]

high ele + atk

[fathom rock]

C3 moran Vs lb1 nero

[keen vapor]

I think Nero dupes don't matter as much, just in CA

[umbral crown]

my vesti still missing atk

[umbral crown]

it does

[keen vapor]

CA

[fathom rock]

My scarlet is missing atk and trina
My vesti missing atk and ammo but she has cs
My nero missing dupes
My ça teams are very low invest for now

Need more cs on noah and biscuit too

[umbral crown]

[covert lintel]

[fathom rock]

I just realized my noah is 90ele

[rich ledge]

It didn't work 🙁

[keen vapor]

Btw, @tropic summit your cooking remains consistent against Schim

[fathom rock]

Bro ain't beating the weaklet allegations
Also that rapi got shredded

[keen vapor]

Helm's already screaming team is 2.5 RL instead of 3, it wasn't going to be beaten by Scarlet

[fathom rock]

Also weak ros

[rich ledge]

Ros alr 39% attack tho

[fathom rock]

[keen vapor]

Dam

Rosanna is fraud

[rich ledge]

There's no deficit also I think

[keen vapor]

[fathom rock]

Sr15 your ross.......

Also sr doll that anis

[keen vapor]

Another 4% attack

[keen vapor]

Nah, she's intended to die

[fathom rock]

She will still die...

[rich ledge]

Vesti is too painful hitting rapipi

[covert lintel]

The opponent T1 burst with biscuit

[fathom rock]

Weaklet

[fathom rock]

Doll give base stats so those atk% rolls are worth more

[keen vapor]

[rich ledge]

scarlet not able to wipe cindy too

also 43% attack scarlet

[hollow lagoon]

she dont seem to get used much now

[covert lintel]

Try

[fathom rock]

Bay dominate?

[hollow lagoon]

kind of not really

[shell hazel]

I just do it anyway as I'm investing my units

[keen vapor]

you want him to lose again?

[shell hazel]

so I want all my main SPA units to have SR-15

[hollow lagoon]

only u are crazy enough ro sr-15 batteries

[rich ledge]

SR15 seems to have more impact in SPA than Solo raid right? haha

[fathom rock]

I want my trina to exist

[hollow lagoon]

trina exists regardless

[fathom rock]

But not my trina

[covert lintel]

You just need to kill noise before burst and you'd win

[hollow lagoon]

just get core 5 trina

[fathom rock]

Can't yall just make em rhb1

[shell hazel]

me and @umbral crown

[hollow lagoon]

idk i got owned so bad last ca

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-hug-dog-question-mark-dog-question-mark-gif-14144426802562365039

[hollow lagoon]

that i'm doubting the meaning of life

[fathom rock]

Why siren when rhb1 exist
Not like noah will block that scar at 2rl

[shell hazel]

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel if my xmica fail me i'mma reset her

[covert lintel]

If they have cs, you can get blocked

[fathom rock]

Not if he has cs too

[covert lintel]

Unfortunately no one put the team like that, so I can't try my own cook

[hollow lagoon]

now i go back to fish simping
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6nxMVpD4Apk

[rich ledge]

i can only try again tmr

[hollow lagoon]

no u want to try again tmr

u just rather not do it now

[umbral crown]

for wind SR

[fathom rock]

[umbral crown]

also SR15 OG mast

[fathom rock]

Bro cp padding his lv1 mast for Rosa sac

[hollow lagoon]

didnt ogmast do like not bad damage for a support?

[fathom rock]

Nowadays we have support like siren

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/yay-gif-21093719

[umbral crown]

i do not use lv1 mast sacc, i use her to buff scar in CA

[hollow lagoon]

my fish being only core 2 is sad i want more fish

[umbral crown]

lv1 sacc is old tech, and my sp and rookie are done. i do not have to do anything anymore

[covert lintel]

Tell me your cook

[fathom rock]

Would you reccomend lv1 mast sac in spa

[rich ledge]

y mast?

[fathom rock]

Crit rate buff

[covert lintel]

Mast linked?

[umbral crown]

hmm these days not really, we got more units to sacc tbh

[hollow lagoon]

unlikely

laplace prob linked

[umbral crown]

there nope but could be if i get another atk line

[fathom rock]

Then why not put lapT p5

[umbral crown]

cuz mast needs to get down to 70% hp to give another buff

in case some sg appears, it will do the trick

[fathom rock]

Wilding

[umbral crown]

but if facing scarlet, her hp gonna get down anyway

mast is 10/10/7

[covert lintel]

Even if your team meets sg they would still win anyway

[umbral crown]

thats the hope

this team killed nero before she bursted

[covert lintel]

Putting p5 lap+ was better

[umbral crown]

sometimes you need to do crazy stuff for a change

like i did last season, vesti on nero team

[covert lintel]

I do crazy stuff this ca season

[umbral crown]

good, thats the way.

thhis way new cooks can be born

[covert lintel]

I want to sr15 every sg but RL nikkes keep coming

[quick lake]

just sr15 them all. Give up on SR

[covert lintel]

sg is for pvp right

[shell hazel]

soda next!

[umbral crown]

She is.already, took like 50-70 blues

[umbral crown]

All important SGs i have it SR15 as well

Even sugar without OL but max doll

[rich ledge]

SR15 is like easier than T10 lvl 5

[shell hazel]

mine is R-0 atm 🙁

hope they drop some good doll mats on us at anni

my Soda is 4/4 OL so she's ready from that side of things

[umbral crown]

Uwu

Just keep working on her

[rich ledge]

as long as she cast her burst she has done her job

[tropic summit]

the others know what they doin' unfortunately for you

schim be 🐒

[shell hazel]

I can't run in p2 atm for scar she'll die, but she's next on my list to R-15/SR-5 when I can

[rich ledge]

really? she didnt die for mine but she has sr 5

[shell hazel]

need another solo raid

[rich ledge]

unless its vesti then its another story

[umbral crown]

Go C4

[rich ledge]

@tropic summit any idea to do this?

[keen vapor]

[rich ledge]

box is here

[tropic summit]

• T1 naga centi vestiTU bsoda rumani
• T2 noah bis helmt rh laplaceT
• T3 jackal siren scarlet trina drakeT

[tropic summit]

oh curious, an attack team blood made actually failing

he was probably distracted by yugioh-ing too much

[heavy hearth]

You’re a king. What cubes? I have tempura and quantum at 8

[tropic summit]

wow ballsy he made you sacc anis and rrh

[rich ledge]

Maybe he didn't think rrh would die haha

[tropic summit]

naga any
centi quantum
vestiTU adjutant/bastion
bsoda any
rumani quantum

noah temperance
biscuit vigor
helmt any/resil/adjutant
rh any/resil/bastion/adjutant
laplaceT adjutant/resil/bastion

jackal quantum
siren temperance
scarlet temperance
trina quantum
drakeT quantum

[shell hazel]

can't you murder noise on that t2? only b1

[tropic summit]

bursting with helmT there should be a direct counter

[shell hazel]

if your SG are built, should win

[tropic summit]

either way lemme c

[rich ledge]

My SG are just like normal OL not particularly rolled

[shell hazel]

might be strong enough it depends

[rich ledge]

And the standard few used for CA I didn't make like pepper or sugar those

[shell hazel]

4-5 SG all shooting at unprotected noise

drakeT, bsoda, noir seem the common 3 I see

[rich ledge]

Yup those 3 only

[shell hazel]

viper can work as b2

for t3 you should be able to snipe the vesti on link

rumani flex (like rapu) helmT biscuit flex (clip SG/RL)

don't think opponent is quick enough to avoid it here

[rich ledge]

Viper isn't built haha. If you look at the video I think the snipe failed

[shell hazel]

rapi is slow though

they may be fast enough with feed perhaps

you def speed them up to 2RL with rapi

low feed snipe should work

[rich ledge]

He said CP pad it up so rapipi haha and he suggested her too

[shell hazel]

otherwise their speed may depend on CS on units

if snipe fails indom rapi should work, but you need jackal here really

[rich ledge]

Oh well I just SR 15-ed my rosanna

I have alot of blue mats lying around

[shell hazel]

oh yeah rosa also gigafeeds a bit 😛

[rich ledge]

Leaving this for anni

[shell hazel]

something like this should win if you want to out-indom it

[covert lintel]

i have sugar sr15 too
I need to sr15 pepper, bsoda and noir next

[shell hazel]

you can skip jackal for t2 as you won't win that with scar anyway

you could then send your best SG's against t2 to try to murder noise before she can b1

[covert lintel]

Rng gonna make you unlucky if you hoarding this

[shell hazel]

wait for rail maybe to confirm what he'd run as well ofc

you can cheapen up on t1 with bay instead of noah if you maintain enough speed

[rich ledge]

That said my bay is still not OL haha

Since normally I only use her for CA

[shell hazel]

she can still work just need to keep 2RL or so there

[rich ledge]

Cant wait for anni to get bay and laplace dupe from wishlist then increase my level by 10... I'll have my revenge haha

[shell hazel]

even unbuilt bay still works for her job of blocking scar nuke

[umbral crown]

Noir still missing SR15, gonna do eventually

But for pepper not anytime soon

[tropic summit]

run this and record

[umbral crown]

Bricked

[tropic summit]

let's see if it's another case of a blanc B2 in time for indom even against a rosanna cutting link at 1RL ...

[rich ledge]

Ok I'll do it when it's a good time tmr, need to time it since I'll get beaten down if I don't time it right

This defense was broken also

[tropic summit]

oh oke can change it up

[rich ledge]

I would have stayed C4 if I didn't lose haha now I'm stuck at C7. Wait for them to fight it out then get C4 tmr

[rich ledge]

Yea it was broken on first try

[shell hazel]

my plan for your potential teams as well elk

vesti against the cindy, xmaiden against the scar, rapi against the vesti

[rich ledge]

This is the person who broke it

[rich ledge]

Oo thanks which do you think is better? Haha

[tropic summit]

try this one next

[shell hazel]

you can run rail version first and see

if it fails could consider trying mine 🙂

[rich ledge]

Oo no scarlet used haha

[shell hazel]

check cp for whichever team you run also ofc

[tropic summit]

it's healthy to keep changing it with different archetypes either way, try both

[tropic summit]

vestiTU indom is more punishing than glass canon scarlet

you also want to press their cards by adding stun and rosanna pressure

[umbral crown]

Nothin like 100 gems should not fix

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-gif-3336263976315355073

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

bad influence

[glad glade]

Good stash. Here’s mine for Nayuta. I’m hoping she sodomizes Indi🅱️ilia

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

you both beat me, I foolishly upgraded Ein doll to SR-5 and it took well over 300 blues and 20 purples lol

so now I am low again

[tropic summit]

seems like a skill issue

should get better at RNG

[shell hazel]

it's not a skill issue Rail - it's a doll issue

[tropic summit]

you didn't believe in the heart of the cards

the game smells your fears

[shell hazel]

I know I know

bigboi will save me

when he's done blocking echo and annoying penguin

[glad glade]

I feel you thou. I spent 43 rocks on Mihara’s arm piece alone. No ele line

[tropic summit]

considering all the dolls he spent of mirandaT

[shell hazel]

he has 5 dakimakura of miranda as well

[tropic summit]

true whel

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/emilia-emilia-re-zero-emilia-anime-re-zero-i-love-you-gif-3481281092722545838

[tropic summit]

where's your priscilla dakimakura? traitor...

[shell hazel]

it's shipping from Japan atm

[shell hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1102755814529306644/1429698515323584583/hsr-.gif

[rich ledge]

How? U didn't upgrade blue doll then swap?

[glad glade]

I love a good flavor of chocolate. Especially if its like pufferfish sushi. One wrong move and it will kill you

[shell hazel]

no that was for blue doll lmao

just fail after fail, smh, should have believed in the heart of the dolls 😄

[tropic summit]

why totally-fixable-waifus are always more attractive

[shell hazel]

she's fixable certainly

[tropic summit]

or maybe it's easier to be an M than a S

[tropic summit]

indeed, some nice hot chocolate in winter works just fine

[shell hazel]

I skipped evernight as cyrene was meant to be good but she's looking mid atm

[tropic summit]

i don't give a f about meta

if the waifu happens to be meta, that's a good plus

[shell hazel]

meta + waifu is supreme

[tropic summit]

HSR/genshin/ZZZ are all doable with low budget, minus the hardcore modes

[glad glade]

Indeed. Tasting her warm chocolate starfish in a cozy cabin would be nice

[tropic summit]

and copium builds

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/marrochi-evil-smile-gif-13737084894852400857

🍫

[umbral crown]

Gib

[wind kelp]

If somebody wants to have fun building 5 League teams, have at it. No stress though, i can go with whatever, and i'll take the craziest ideas as i don't mind if it doesn't work out 😄 And just for the chefs(cause i know you like it); CP levels in red, CS% in black (yes i know i have work on some). Based on blabla stats so, however that's counted, cubes or not. Unnumbered don't have gear or lines. Anything after Frima is either fully non-geared, or has some random OL gear on, and maybe has leveled gear in the "shared box"(aka leveled ut not OLd).

[shell hazel]

gimme your blabla I can pull an excel report much easier to see

[wind kelp]

I have no idea how to do that 😄

[shell hazel]

share top right

as long as your nikkes are public viewable I can do it - even if only temporarily it's fine

[tropic summit]

@gritty ridge time to get to work

[wind kelp]

Found out how to turn nikkes visible, but no idea what where to share 😄

[shell hazel]

top right

copy link

i'm going to grab dinner and stuff but if you can work out how to share it (from shiftypad btw) I'll dump a spreadsheet when I'm back

[gritty ridge]

Im working rn

Thats why I havent been yapping

[tropic summit]

abusing your fitness coach role to touch some young lass again eh

they call that working now eh

[gritty ridge]

Brother im the young one most of the time

[tropic summit]

reverse touching

[onyx scaffold]

Simply grab the URL lol

[meager walrus]

What's the go to Rookie Arena team?

[gritty ridge]

There's lots of options

All are beatable

[meager walrus]

What site do you guys use to view top compositions?

[gritty ridge]

I just make em myself, theres some strong teams in the pins tho

[wind kelp]

Anyhoo, thanks as always for your cooking consideration all, this bun is one foot in bed already so, see what's what in the morning.

[raven cairn]

is someone able to make me some ca teams?

[shell hazel]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/home?openid=MjkwODAtMTc5MTQ5NzY2Njk0MzAwNTg2NzY this is your link

can't see the nikkes

[meager walrus]

What does RL mean from that Standard SPA Def Teams pin?

[shell hazel]

it's speed. lower RL is quicker

[meager walrus]

Thanks!

[shell hazel]

it's the time it takes for a battery like centi or trina to fire a rocket. so 2RL = time it takes to fire 2 rockets

[tropic summit]

depends on what you've built, prefer 2RL teams with noah or indom

[onyx scaffold]

Popular teams mean popular counter method btw

[shell hazel]

that t5 feels doomed

[meager walrus]

Yeah, but I just want an updated cookie cutter team for dailies. I'm not really looking to climbing the ladder.

[thin abyss]

Yeah but there's nothing else, its the team that gave me the best results for t5

[shell hazel]

you only put cindy p1 if it's deliberate and you want to speed up opponent

opponent will target skip to lapt at p2 and then your rumani is in danger of being killed by splash damage

[thin abyss]

Well, it depends on the opposing team, I'm more worried about going against a SG team

[tropic summit]

consider building vestiTU and getting your utilities SR5 doll
aim for the CS% as in the picture, quantums are highly recommended to hit the RL thresholds

[tropic summit]

T1 noah biscuit helmT cindy rumani
T2 scarlet trina rh centi jackal
T3 auto

use T1 against enemy scarlets
use T2 against enemy non noah teams and non 2RL indoms
T3 against w/e, throwaway team, make it with a rosanna and SGs if you've resources (example: drake bsoda naga ros noir)

[tropic summit]

he doesn't even have vestiTu or nero built, bro didn't even look at their box

and moran is on blue doll

[raven cairn]

are the orange sqaures also just quantum cubes?

[tropic summit]

orange squares are treasures

[raven cairn]

ah alright

thanks

[meager walrus]

Woah, thanks!

[onyx scaffold]

@tropic summit I dont have Rapunzel in CN sadge

They have a share button that generates a picture like above

[tropic summit]

why the f are they so ahead

[shell hazel]

enredched as they are

[tropic summit]

they get gud stuff we don't, clearly enriched

[onyx scaffold]

They are also behind in something
U cannot see doll

[shell hazel]

the CA one is even worse lol

[onyx scaffold]

There is no nikkepedia in game

[shell hazel]

do they have split arena and pve cubes yet?

[onyx scaffold]

They do

[tropic summit]

oh ok it looked too good to be true

[onyx scaffold]

The share button only exists on mobile.
It does not appear on PC

Lmao so it is useless for me who plays on pc only

[slate falcon]

Is vesti ok p1 in this team? (Asking bc of Little Mermaid’s stun).

[onyx scaffold]

She will be stunned and your RH will burst

[tropic summit]

vestiTU doesn't specifically need RH to be lethal, in fact blanc alone is enough to get that team to be rather tricky

you want her to be siren resistant, you need a b1 in p1 and on 2RL

or achieve 2RL with 11%CS team wide

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit he evolved

[tropic summit]

oh wew

you can no longer execution squad T1

[fathom rock]

I can 99% moran nero stall t1
But T3 is gonna be on deficit

[slate falcon]

What “CS” counter strike?

[umbral crown]

bay can not defend against true damage

[tropic summit]

charge speed

[slate falcon]

Oh

lol

[tropic summit]

his problemo is the deficit on T3

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

do you've anything that gets close to 642k, has a defender + biscuit and is 2RL?

[fathom rock]

Actually can I abuse Rosa for bgen and deficit making my units die fast

[fathom rock]

642k is like campaign squad lvls bro

[slate falcon]

She always gets stun when there’s a Siren

[onyx scaffold]

I regret pulling Viper in CN :(

[tropic summit]

b1 p1 on 2RL does not get stunned

siren applies stun at around 2RL B2 time frame

[fathom rock]

Joe deep into deficit can cindy kill

[slate falcon]

What’s b1

[tropic summit]

burst 1

[slate falcon]

Oh

[tropic summit]

18-20% deficit it's still lethal

noah bis cindy helmt rumani or flex with w/e you've

[fathom rock]

If I run helm here then t1 suffers

[tropic summit]

where le box.

we've 5 mins

[fathom rock]

You have it
Just don't cook with trina and almost everything has a deficit

[elfin oar]

um guys how can i keep my rank from going down ?

[tropic summit]

link, i'm uncapable of scrolling

[fathom rock]

Just cook with anything but trina and def in mind

[tropic summit]

but the CP

[slate falcon]

So should I put Jackel in p1 then?

oh nah

[fathom rock]

I'm about to try something then

Rh living is the single thread holding this dream

[tropic summit]

fill as needed

[fathom rock]

Blanc team would deficit

[tropic summit]

that's why i asked box

[elfin oar]

https://tenor.com/view/question-mark-gif-anime-boy-gif-25925752

[tropic summit]

either way you can punish T1 with blanc and feed, T3 needs anti nuke

glass cannon is fine on deficit, you probably cannot beat moran team on deficit

[fathom rock]

I'll wild my t3 and pray

[tropic summit]

record for extra 🍿

[umbral crown]

2 mins

[tropic summit]

he's ballin'

he goin' all in

[umbral crown]

i did the snipe in rookie

[tropic summit]

what a bully

[umbral crown]

now sp if he is awake}

[tropic summit]

chinnit got real life to take care of

[umbral crown]

which does not seems the case

[tropic summit]

like playing on his other 10 accounts

[umbral crown]

must be sleeping

[tropic summit]

just touching his baton

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/solar-highway-great-success-cryptid-friendclub-gif-25005258

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/satanichia-gabriel-dropout-satanichia-kurumizawa-anime-evil-face-evil-anime-expression-gif-24255146

[fathom rock]

NOOOOOOOO

[tropic summit]

siren diffed

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

what a mad lad tho, almost gottem

[fathom rock]

I got my ways but they goofy

[umbral crown]

was a fierce day in our gem war but i took the win

[tropic summit]

how many gems ...

[umbral crown]

today like... 1100 or so

[fathom rock]

Well that's the downside of having the dps be jack linked
Cindy wouldn't 2rl with that setup tho

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/k-on-gif-7725079966726728974

[fathom rock]

I should've went wilder and picked xmaid
That way noah links

[tropic summit]

or you could've used vestiTU here and thought over the other team against moran

[fathom rock]

Screw me

[tropic summit]

oh that's another option

[fathom rock]

And run what there, rrh ?
Actually that could wor-

[tropic summit]

he's still auto-ing you

[tropic summit]

yep it could, bay is there to amplify your damage x5

ultra RRH stonks warfare

[umbral crown]

kinda haha

i got like 3 defenses success today

[fathom rock]

I am very stoked to try that now but ch7 will hit me if ch3 reclaim fast enough

[tropic summit]

patience and then you strike 🍿

when their pants are down, you shall unleash the drill

[shell hazel]

drag your teams around a bit

[umbral crown]

Then did a new one and auto did not work for him

[fathom rock]

I love rhp1 strats

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

a classic

[fathom rock]

Will he gem tho

[shell hazel]

if my teams lose I just shift their positions 😄

[tropic summit]

he always does

[umbral crown]

of course, he is geeming even in rookie

[tropic summit]

it's Rosy's BFF

[umbral crown]

he once hit me x9 besides the 5 free attempts

[tropic summit]

loves to play against rosy so much he gems everyday

[umbral crown]

and since today i had the day off because of a storm thought would be nice to keepo the gem war

[fathom rock]

He funds ca, respect

[tropic summit]

what a real booly

[haughty mortar]

AWESOME I BEAT THE GUY! My next mark:

[tropic summit]

this one is easy, you can even 1RL scarlet

[umbral crown]

last night went to sleep at 1 am or so, woke up today at 8 and i did not get hit, probably was working

[haughty mortar]

Teams? Is what I have good?

[umbral crown]

right after season started i hit him so i have spent more time in C1 than him for now

[umbral crown]

hope shuffle bring some competitive bois like him, it keeps SP alive

[tropic summit]

assemble these, CP should probably be fine but check, then run them

you're on the left, opponent is on the right

T1 top
T2 is skip
T3 bot

T2 auto it

[lethal karma]

is this possible?

[tropic summit]

your only B1 in T2 is in p1, she's very likely to die and prevent you from bursting
T3 is guaranteed win

[lethal karma]

where should i put volume instead?

[tropic summit]

can you show your current box? your T2 is very slow and would prefer balancing it

[tropic summit]

oh you've rumani and biscuit aswell

[lethal karma]

both of them aren't invested, i've focused campaign mostly

[tropic summit]

can you remove all filters and post your box with nikke ordered by strength? gives me a clear idea of how far behind units are compared to volume

as you can drop to 84k to not be in deficit in T2 we've some leeway

[tropic summit]

hmm ok trina is far better off than rumani here

assemble this team and show CP

[lethal karma]

looks like this

[tropic summit]

you're well within strike zone and you've just went up of 2RL in terms of speed

now you're pretty much guaranteed to win

[lethal karma]

i see

[elfin oar]

any help ?

[tropic summit]

to help you understand, this is what you just fixed:

(below was your former team)

[lethal karma]

and then i can keep third team as the same

[tropic summit]

ye the other team is on 3RL and has jackal p1 sharing dmg, so they'll be healthy and outdpsing

[tropic summit]

@lethal karma your T2 now has safe positioning for your b2 and b1, alice can be sacrificed or actually get to burst, it won't change the outcome drammatically, as your other source of DPS, vesti, will be already going in

while also making them drastically faster (from 5RL to 3RL)

[lethal karma]

very cool

let me rearrange the whole roster and see how it performs rq

[tropic summit]

what help do you need?

[lethal karma]

btw t1 is guaranteed to lose due to cp gap, i can just fill it with whatever maybe?

[tropic summit]

ye in general SParena you just focus on 2 teams with the counters

the other team you can auto it with w/e is left on high cp

[elfin oar]

every one is strong

[tropic summit]

you've probably taken breaks/stopped playing

in this game you can no longer catch up once that happens

[elfin oar]

yeah did that couple times

[lethal karma]

should i gamble on this one instead? they have higher rank compared to previous one

[tropic summit]

this one is also winnable

in this one you can better balance power, move diesel in T2 instead of alice and move alice in T3 instead of diesel

[lethal karma]

thankies @tropic summit

[elfin oar]

@tropic summit i wont last long here right

[green summit]

Could someone help me beat this SP arena team?

[tropic summit]

nope, level difference is drastically higher than yours

that account, in terms of rankings, is pretty much finished

[elfin oar]

im still surprised how i got myself between these whales

[hollow lagoon]

man

gotta recruit for me union again

can i yoink @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

you're on the left, can you first run scarlet team as provided in union shooting range, enter pause menu, click on scarlet, and confirm she has "jumping jackal" buff?

[tropic summit]

i'm already taken

[hollow lagoon]

man hard for 1.04% union to get people now days

[upper grove]

Just get into a top 100 one, you'll easily get one because you whale lvls

[hollow lagoon]

my friends are in this one

[green summit]

yes, i do. I opened the pause menu immediately.

[upper grove]

Tell them to tryhard or whale more

[tropic summit]

oke looks good then, you can run the teams i gave you, record just in case something goes unexpected so we can tailor further, but should do fine

[hollow lagoon]

light spenders and f2ps

[dim shuttle]

~~Hey guys, what is the best team comp to use against the following two comps here in rookie arena?

LVL 610: Noise | Noah | Jackal | Vesti: Tactical Upgrade | Biscuit - 1.88M
LVL 572: Noise | Noah | Jackal | Vesti: Tactical Upgrade | Drake - 1.70M

I gap them in Nikke level since I'm 621 though I understand that isn't much.
I just need advice on comps to use to counter them.
I'm outdated on pvp since I haven't done this in a long while.
I have every unit and will invest on the ones I need to in order to counter them.~~

I was ignored

[green summit]

alright, will do. I'm guessing none of my cubes matter

[upper grove]

Then you have to become their carry

[tropic summit]

scarlet temperance
laplaceT vigor
blanc vigor
siren any
jackal quantum

noah temperance
biscuit vigor
rh any
helmt any
emilia any

if you want to further min max:

• if siren has jumping jackal put her in p2 and laplaceT in p4
• if laplaceT has jumping jackal buff, can run as is

[hollow lagoon]

my damage was 20th, then 15th, then 12th, then 5th, then 3rd

now i gotta yoink sync 300s for the union

where can i find vulnerable exploitable innocient sync 300 slav...i mean buddies

[tropic summit]

i'd try reddit or https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1253574821573296268

[hollow lagoon]

i did

[tropic summit]

sometimes even asking in random channels can work

throw the casual question "anyone looking for an union? we got tea and biscuits"

[hollow lagoon]

but i want u

[green summit]

my deficit for team 3 is 22% should i still give it a go?

[tropic summit]

nope it's good you asked, that would be pretty bad

let's rethink the flex unit to balance CP

[tropic summit]

swap emilia with laplaceT and check again

could fit eventually also a drakeT if CP is still needed for T2 in case

but let's see if just swapping lappy around is enough

[green summit]

deficit is 20%, I'm guessing biscuit and Noah are worth SR15ing? I have them at sr5 righ tnow.

[tropic summit]

hmm i see, yes it's worth it but we can shift to T1 then, as you've noise well built

can you check if noise has less CS% than noah? 4% ideally

CS% = charge speed

we can make you siren invulnerable as long as noise has lower CS% than noah, which will prevent siren from stunning noah via taunt

[green summit]

My noise has 13.29% CS from lines, My noah has 4.29%

[tropic summit]

oof, then you've a noah taunt priority

we can still make do with bay i guess

[tropic summit]

change teams to this, check again CP for T1

[green summit]

just to clarify my bay is uninvested and is not treasured but i have the resources to build her now if you think i should

[tropic summit]

she's actually fine even untreasured, although OL for body and legs would be a good safety check

doll can stay R5

can leave her as 4/4/4

[green summit]

all right, so 5(not ol)/1(OL)/5(not ol)/1(OL) should be fine i'm guessing

[tropic summit]

yep

check CP now and if you're not on deficit, you're good to go

you can expect noah to get stunned and bay to cast B2, which will nullify scarlet nuke while you finish them off

as for T2, you're denying blanc to cast B2, which will leave them indomless against your indom scarlet

[green summit]

T1 deficit - 12%
T2 deficit 13%,
thanks I'm going to record and hit now

[wicked horizon]

Does CA team order have any importance?
I shuffle it every time, but maybe that's just a placebo effect.

[tropic summit]

if you care about statistics yes

some archetypes have higher chances to be run in certain positions

[wicked horizon]

💦

[tropic summit]

e.g. ppl tend to put their strongest team in T1 and their weakest in T5

there was also an unsaid rule of placing SG team in T5 or T4

scarlet generally goes T1 or T2

T3 usually is a stall team variant or indom

make of that info what you want, although keep in mind it is just RNG at the end

[wicked horizon]

M'kay, thanks.

[thin perch]

Does team round order particularly matter in CA?

[green summit]

thanks I got the kill. I've been stuck against this opponent for a few months now. I appreciate the help and the explanations.

[tropic summit]

ah nice went exactly as we predicted, you welcome

when and if you get resources, do indeed improve your biscuit and noah, they're generally key in most attack teams

fixing noah to have more CS% than noise would also help, although as you can see bay can fix that situationally

[tight finch]

Any advice on t3 for SP attack, been playing with some but unsure where to invest 🤔

[green summit]

Do you think it's better to roll for more CS% on noah, or should i reroll noise to have less?

[deft pelican]

Could someone cook some sp arena def teams ?

[tropic summit]

getting CS% above 15% is tricky and expensive, could just keep current noah weakness and work around it with alternatives like with the bay approach

another way to fix your noah siren vulnerability is to run her with a team on 11%CS wide and on natural 2RL, at that point you can safely reach B2 and then get stunned after casting

it's easier to achieve with helmT on 8%CS and another clip RL on 11%CS

as you already have noise on 15%+, you're almost there if helmT has CS%

taking this team as example:

your team would be on the bottom, team on top is just for purpose of running siren to have a stun reference

assuming you've 11% or 13%CS on noah, 8% or more on helmT, and 15% or more on noise, you'd be siren resistant

[tropic summit]

you only need 2 teams for attack, your t3 can work although if you get a rosanna decently invested

that'd be around 30-40%atk, a bit of ele% and crit rate

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[green summit]

Sorry, I'm not comprehending on why the differences in CS between my own units would cause me to be resistant against enemy siren stun.

[shell hazel]

siren stun is a static speed, if you're quicker to reach b2 you can outspeed it

2RL b1 is always siren immune

[placid bloom]

Your bottleneck is your slowest unit, you need your team speed to be fast enough

[shell hazel]

2RL b2 with enough CS team wide can outspeed also

[placid bloom]

11% team wide

If anyone is slower your entire team speed drops

[shell hazel]

yeah only as fast as slowest unit

[shell hazel]

cp feels kind of low for your sync on all 3 teams

[green summit]

i think it was implied more that, rail was saying it was important to get Noah above Noise otherwise i have to use work arounds

[shell hazel]

that is because you want noah slightly quicker than noise - last hit taunts

so noah hits first, then noise = noise taunts

but your noah CS also matters for avoiding potential siren stuns on a 2RL b2

[tight finch]

Yeah im usually battling +30k+ so sometimes of my scar/vesti teams are gambling, main 2 teams are missing 5 bits of OL, otherwise it could be OL line padding. most have just got single charge speed etc

[green summit]

oh i understand now

[tropic summit]

• T1 bay centi helmt biscuit rapunzel
• T2 noise noah vestiTU emilia rumani
• T3 jackal siren scarlet trina laplaceT

CS% on vestiTU (11% or 15%) else consider it 2.5RL, rest just use cubes as in picture

[tight finch]

Does emilia have a substitute in comps she is in or does that break it?

[deft pelican]

Alrighty, will try thank you 🙂

[tropic summit]

emilia if used as a battery is non core (can be flexed with laplaceT or any other clip RL)
emilia if used as main delayed B3 nuke is core
emilia if used to combo for synch shot is core

[shell hazel]

I was nearer 700K at that sync though it's hyper-invested probably 600K if not

got a blabla link @tight finch ? I can diagnose a bit then 😄

[tight finch]

I've only started pumping into pvp last month or so, so they still laggin on rocks

and some dolls arn't sr15 yet

[shell hazel]

I can look at and see what units/rolls to prio

it's a free service

-# it only costs $100/month

[tight finch]

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtMTYyMjA2MDc2MzIxMDI4OTUxOTg%3D
Privacy should be open

[shell hazel]

one moment caller

[tight finch]

missing 1 dupe bay otherwise i have her max treasure

[shell hazel]

let's look at a few things then to improve some pvp options a bit

Noah - OL chest + Arms

Rumani - Base OL all 4 slots if you can (you only have 3 here, see if you can steal the 4th one off someone else if you have a spare)

[deft pelican]

Sorry what are the recommended skill levels for vesti? 4/10/10 ?

[shell hazel]

Noise - Nice CS rolls but we could do with trying to cp pad some. Consider temp lock on Head + Arms and just trying to add OK line 2/3 (what you get doesn't really matter)

2 rocks a try means this isn't a top priority. May as well maintain the CS rolls on line 1 for this

[tropic summit]

ye 7/10/10 if you wanna commit

[shell hazel]

Centi - Arms are letting you down, only phase 3 CS - consider trying to add line 2/3 with similar concept to Noise recs

then reset attributes for better stat roll on CS when you have 2-3 lines

[shell hazel]

69 420 😮

Blanc - OL remaining pieces

Trina - OL remaining pieces

Biscuit - OL remaining pieces

[tight finch]

Hm true, never thought to roll 3line then 1st line CS burning rocks

Maybe i need start prio the xp boxes from co-op

[shell hazel]

Scarlet - Arms are pretty bad - consider rolling until you get atk

Long term Scarlet is a decent general aoe nuke for atk/def so she wants good lines, atk/crit etc

[gritty ridge]

Do i look like a pvp main yet

[shell hazel]

ammo is actually something you don't want more than one of

one 60% ammo roll for scar means you're siren immune, more and you're not

Vesti - 7/10/10 eventually, and improve lines, but she's expensive

if you care about pve some - consider cp padding your crown a bit as well

her chest is only phase 5 value

crit damage phase 1 and def phase 4

I think in general for your teams you may need to run a balance for now of pve/pvp or you'll get gapped by cp easily

[tight finch]

Since SB i kinda just dropped pve and dumped all my mats into pvp since I can beat all bar leviathan in 1st

just bit inconsistant

[shell hazel]

that is a better way to do it but on the other hand if you have the CS already, then 2 rock gambles to try to add something else can pay off

if you full roll for other lines then try to add line 1 CS again it could wind up costly

50% and 30% chance for something to appear, it may miss a bunch of times in a row though 😄

[tight finch]

Can rei2 function similar to scar or she too weak? just something fun wanted to try, just expensive

[shell hazel]

no one really runs it for good reason I think

scar kind of does it but better, and is already costly to do

[tight finch]

and now we got vesti as well. wondering if cindy is better pre-built vesti

vesti charges fast tho right

[shell hazel]

your cindy is stronger in terms of cp and that has it's own meaning I think here

vesti is generally better though imo

[tight finch]

is 60% ammo on scarlet breakpoint?

[shell hazel]

it's the max rec if you want to run her p1

31 ammo or less

[tight finch]

Hmn, so just keep the 52% get rid of others ?

[shell hazel]

essentially ideal rolls for scarlet is 4 x atk, 4 x crit rate, 1 x ammo, and then you can flex on the last few (ele %, crit dmg)

so with that in mind, you don't want to roll off your ammo roll if it's in a good spot

Scarlet Torso looks OK to me for now as it's ammo and atk

line 1 ammo on head is not needed - can temp lock the atk and roll it

line 3 ele on legs is also reasonable, can temp lock that to roll for better line 1/2

the arms are the most useless one though