pvp-arena

[umbral crown]

Their opponents had better teams

[keen vapor]

Keep investing and you'll get it someday btw what's your betting match?

[shell hazel]

it's all about rng arena 😛

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

this is like they heard of teams and mixed up 4 of them

[keen vapor]

Same question for you @hoary maple @clear vessel
What bet match you guys got?

[wind kelp]

Didn't get anywhere in League(1-3), scarlett got sirened both losses, and rest matchups were just as awful. BUT...i did manage to run the "Tactical Vesti" team test 😄

[umbral crown]

Waos

[shell hazel]

reduce scarlet ammo

avoid siren

[umbral crown]

Just add mast

Siren dies

[shell hazel]

I smashed a mast team, it was weird

[violet spoke]

Ofc its the guy who wiped my group

[shell hazel]

let me find it quick

[wind kelp]

No, i mean that Scarlett just got paired badly, that all. The team is fine :p

[keen vapor]

Always have low ammo on your Scarlet

[keen vapor]

Who where is him

[violet spoke]

Ratman group 4

[wind kelp]

It was more about running the tactical test anyway, which worked fine :p I don't need to advance 😄

[shell hazel]

ah it was p5 mast

@keen vapor

[keen vapor]

[shell hazel]

I finally got a chance to watch this and yeah interesting - honestly it's a diff version of the slow cindy that can basically always trigger the indom

there's a few versions floating around. mine would lose to double buff scar 2RL but should improve it's chances against mirror indom

[umbral crown]

Then they weak

[shell hazel]

no we just too strong now, unlimited power 😄

-# caution: power may be limited

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/boulz-gurren-lagann-kamina-shades-anime-gif-13671099987452264811

[keen vapor]

Right, looking at his match he's going to 5-0 once again

[umbral crown]

Howa ýour top 64 looking

[keen vapor]

My chances aren't 0 but.... Very bad

[gritty ridge]

This one is weak to siren, theres always sacrifice

Better against scar but now siren is an issue

[shell hazel]

yeah, I've seen 4-5 versions now and each has strengths and weaknesses

I haven't beaten a good double buffed scar with my previous version, and I think this would be the same

the rumani p1 version may do well against vesti comps though

[umbral crown]

Show enemy teams

[keen vapor]

My Moran Noah Helm RH Noise is fighting against Nero Moran have no chance there

My Mihara Cindy team is fighting against Scarlet Siren team, and I just won that match with Soda variant

[tender badge]

The teams you mentioned above i put them in that order? And scarlet is the OG scarlet or SBS

[shell hazel]

that will be old scarlet

[keen vapor]

Scarlet is Scarlet
And yes, in that order

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/scarlet-scarlet-nikke-nikke-scarlet-bamboo-forest-cute-anime-girl-gif-9902164233283565064

[keen vapor]

It's been months since I opened excel

[shell hazel]

just do it

[keen vapor]

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-lee-karate-slow-motion-fight-me-lets-fight-gif-7950367157514909346

think he's using google docs version 😛

[keen vapor]

Excel is excel

[shell hazel]

[fathom rock]

[umbral crown]

Now just pray and hope for the best

[shell hazel]

siren shouldn't prevent the mihara cindy from working

even if blanc is p1 then she gets out of stun in time to b2 if you're on the usual slow version

[clear vessel]

Eon vs. Kshade

[keen vapor]

Eon wins 100%

[glad glade]

We might actually get to have that battle

[dense kindle]

Good luck to both you guys

[glad glade]

Thanks bro

[gritty ridge]

The version im running is because my rumani is underinvested, but as long as blanc doesnt low roll on counters it should reasonably beat double buff scar every time

[keen vapor]

I beat that team with with Soda Trina variant

[gritty ridge]

Soda stun wouldnt even do anything here, its more if blanc gets bisc locked before scar burst or not

[keen vapor]

And now for sure I lose that same matchup with Trina Siren

[gritty ridge]

Trina siren would beat the version im running actually

actually

Idk if it would

Id be 2 shots slower with rumani

But it depends if mihara had hit everyone

[keen vapor]

Well, this Cindy wasn't max doll, maybe mine can win

[gritty ridge]

Oh thats a different variant of the one I use

I run rumani p1 blanc p3

Cindy p5 should also make it pretty safe against sg cuz I dont think they can make her lock before blanc/rumani do

[umbral belfry]

stay alive u gotta get thru my pie mate @coarse solstice first

the first baby bracket champ

[glad glade]

Not even him, I gotta get past another champ rn 💀

[coarse solstice]

👀 👀 👀

[umbral belfry]

I beat him already back in baby bracket ket, I'm giving u my blessing

but also

ket with the potential to fight 3 champs in a row LMAO

[glad glade]

What are the odds of that?

But. I like those odds

Bring it on

[umbral belfry]

us baby bracket champs gotta fight back

jump this dude ura

[coarse solstice]

2B is hungry

[glad glade]

My wife will eat her up

[umbral belfry]

waifu fight

[coarse solstice]

Fr GL though❤️❤️

[glad glade]

Thnx bro, you too! May the best man win

[limber isle]

Guys i after getting clapped in the arena im here for advice

[dense kindle]

Just win

[limber isle]

Man against them whales its hard

[umbral belfry]

[dense kindle]

It is

[limber isle]

I just wanna get that championship frame once

It looks so good

[dense kindle]

time to full invest in pvp or become spender too

[limber isle]

I would but I got no pvp units for now

No biscuit no jackal

[umbral belfry]

become a pvp goon like me and the CA champ will be yours (if you get lucky in rng arena)

[limber isle]

I really want to

[umbral belfry]

first step is to make it top 4 in sp (points)

[limber isle]

But I got only these units

[umbral belfry]

oh you're a baby account

[limber isle]

Only a month and 20 days of playing

[umbral belfry]

well, bad news is rn you wouldn't even make it to CA bc iirc you need to be lv 200

[quartz rover]

My noise is gonna solo

[umbral belfry]

but once you make it there you're always welcome to ask for team building help

[umbral crown]

[limber isle]

Yeah the best i did was reach 10th place but got demoted the next hour

[umbral belfry]

ouchie

realistically you should be priorizing campaign

[umbral belfry]

but if you really want to focus CA then you can

but likely your campaign progress might suffer

but I believe in you

[limber isle]

I have unlocked anomaly interception

[umbral belfry]

Hopefully you get helm dupes soon because she's great for both pve and pvp

[limber isle]

So idk about pushing campaign for now

[umbral belfry]

wishlist her if you haven't already

[limber isle]

I have her but lb0

[umbral belfry]

dupes come home

[umbral crown]

Start working on her

Dupes will come eventually

[limber isle]

Im waiting for the server to reset cause I need to rush to do all the manufacturer towers if not I will not get my #1 20 times frame

[umbral crown]

[limber isle]

Alr doing that waiting for sr doll for her amd the dupes got 3 manufacturer gear on her

[umbral crown]

Good

[limber isle]

Shes at 5/5/5 for now

[umbral crown]

Goal is 10/10/10

[limber isle]

Yeah for now im trying to build my redhood

Tbh idk what i should prioritize rn

[umbral crown]

Another 10/10/10 unit

[limber isle]

Even skill 1?

[umbral crown]

Rh of course

[umbral crown]

Yeah

Its an unit you will be using daily

In all contents

[limber isle]

I recently got her didnt even had her for a month only had sbs drunklet and rupanzel

[umbral crown]

Waos

[limber isle]

Who to aim for after giving all ol and max skills to rh

[umbral crown]

I would say SBS

[limber isle]

My sbs is 10/7/10

All ol gear expect boots

[umbral crown]

Good, then scar

[limber isle]

For scarlet what should I be going for in skills?

I think I have her at 9/5/6

[spiral onyx]

Lmao

Triple AoE too stronk

[umbral crown]

Waos

[umbral crown]

10/10/10 eventually

[umbral crown]

[limber isle]

Even scarlet all 10? I think I saw on prydwen only skill 1 to 10?

[naive goblet]

i dont have excel

[umbral crown]

Scar is key in pvp

[shell hazel]

google docs upload if you use it, works in google docs then

[naive goblet]

got it

how'd you pull that. neato

but what teams do i use

i can cp gap if i use pve units...

[shell hazel]

if you care about the pvp stuff more you could invest in the core units more

long term they're better than trying to cp gap, but you seem to be a moderate whale 🐋

[naive goblet]

my goals just to retain top3

[shell hazel]

if you cp gap enough then you don't need to invest in pvp

[naive goblet]

idc about pvp i just want gems

too busy still building stuff for campaign/sr

[shell hazel]

you should still build some core units, don't have to build a large roster

but having main ones sort of ready you can flex a number of team options

[naive goblet]

who would u suggest

scarlet i know is op

[shell hazel]

ones I highlighted would be the higher priority ones (you did Helm/Cindy/Siren already)

just step through them one by one a bit if you can, Jackal is the best pvp b1

Noah is the best pvp b2

Biscuit can flex into any team with defenders and can work well with stuff like cp pad

Trina + Scarlet is a great combination (though Scarlet has high build requirements)

[naive goblet]

[shell hazel]

increase CP on Jackal + Noah + Biscuit first maybe, then come back for next steps/further teams

what are you running atm?

[naive goblet]

I can't really give pvp units more than 7/7/7 and ol0 with 1 rock

this is whats kept me in top3 for a while

[umbral crown]

SR today was not kind with me... still missing 4

@keen vapor gonna steal your batteries

[shell hazel]

i'll see if I can do something a little better but your t3 is weak cp wise

your Noah in particular needs more CP

most pvp units don't need more than 4/4/4 with basic OL and some doll levels

[naive goblet]

sadly it feels like gear xp material is the most scarce resource in the game

it takes like a full 8-9 days to OL one unit

and my outpost level is like 450

[shell hazel]

yes it does

[naive goblet]

this rookie arena team has still held strong tho

[umbral crown]

Imagine your rivals knew vesti exist

[naive goblet]

should I use vesti or sanis?

[shell hazel]

Vesti > *

[umbral crown]

If it works no need to change

[shell hazel]

she is high invest though

your vesti would not be ready

[naive goblet]

ah i see

[umbral crown]

Just 10/10/10 SR15 4 atk 8 crit

[shell hazel]

[naive goblet]

[shell hazel]

I think a more balanced one is better but some people swear by the all crit

[umbral crown]

C7 forgot to mention

[gritty ridge]

Should I take this on vesti?

[umbral crown]

[shell hazel]

imo no

you need good line 3

[umbral crown]

You can count on hippo for this

[shell hazel]

depends what your other stat balance is like as to whether crit damage l3 is what you want

[umbral crown]

My methods not good for you

[gritty ridge]

Im looking for atk, ammo, and cs on that piece

[umbral crown]

• tend to lock line 1 most of the time*

[shell hazel]

then you need line 3 to be one of those 3

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/ELYRz_etwxU?si=Mz3jlk-ym8c2uTFe

[umbral crown]

Time to watch the movie

[shell hazel]

I wouldn't take line 1 and line 2 right as adding right line 3 is a nightmare

1 rock roll until line 3 is a desired stat then lock/work in line 1/2

[shell hazel]

what stats are you aiming for overall?

[gritty ridge]

4 atk, 3 ele, 3 cs, 2 ammo

[shell hazel]

no crit rate?

I'm going for 4 atk, 2 ele, 2 cs, 2 crit rate, 2 ammo

[limber isle]

Guide me man i need that frame me imma quit campaign if needed

[spiral onyx]

Step 1:

Step 2: See step 1

[shell hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1162985219830329374.webp?size=128&animated=true

[limber isle]

Even 1 championship win will work 😭

[shell hazel]

just buy a champion ready account 😄

[spiral onyx]

The frame itself is just meh

[shell hazel]

💳 also needed

[spiral onyx]

It's more about the flex if you have many wins

[shell hazel]

I don't even use it lol

[limber isle]

Huh i need the frame tho cause i like it

Imma slowly build pvp units as i get them hopefully anniversary helps

[shell hazel]

Keripo what do you make of prywdens rating of ada in pvp? I feel it's too generous

[limber isle]

Is there any guide to follow cause I feel prydwen is outdated

[gritty ridge]

Nah no crit rate

[shell hazel]

I feel like ele is too situational

it's useless when the enemy has no wind units

[umbral crown]

Always step 1 and repeat

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Or when they are P4-P5

[shell hazel]

right, so I wanted a little of it but 3 rolls seems like it could be a bit much 🙂

this was mine bigboi but I need to roll that charge damage line 1 to attack at some point

[quartz rover]

Is charge damage really worse than atk?

It's not like vesti shoots one shot, its kinda like Cindy and shoots multiple per charge

[shell hazel]

not sure, on the one hand I want atk on every piece

on the other hand swapping that to atk and then rolling it could be expensive 🙂

[swift mango]

Depend on your current account level there is lots of investment and luck involved.

You could start fresh on global and try to win their baby CA after 2-3 months into the game. (Or SEA when their next baby CA bracket opened up in a year or two. ). That's the easiest routine.

Go with cash, buy rock, pull for dupe and research level is another way.

[gritty ridge]

I also use her for pve

[swift mango]

Better to have at least 1 if you aren't a whale. 🫃

[quartz rover]

Checking the team on attack (its my spa defense) but not sure if you can see whose linked or shielded in this

[shell hazel]

on your side it's jackal vesti and drake

[shell hazel]

well the debate here was on my 2 ele rolls vs bigboi wanting 3 :p

[swift mango]

I'm too lazy to point out all the tiniest detail but for investment.

• Rock: if you aren't a whale you might want CP pad. But for CA, CS on everyone with a rocket >=11% counted by my comment in pin. Exception are Emi, LapT, still need at least 5%. Cindy, SBS doesn't need to. SR all >= 5%.

Dolls, most key Arena units in your CA line up, want max doll. MG, SMG and AR more so.

Skill investment you could start with looking at Prydwen specific character page's investment for PvP section.

Scarlet 32 ammo or bellow if you put her p1

[shell hazel]

you're not winning CA without months of pvp investment unless you hit an early bracket with lots of noobs and you've whaled all the units

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel i'm done

[shell hazel]

it's going to be a lot higher than mine my rapi team does nothing lol

[lone sequoia]

just get lucky

[swift mango]

If you are PvE whale with high research level you could win CA purely on luck, research diff them and not getting hard countered. Like your 200 ammo p1 scarlet won't meet Siren ever.

Siren usage is reduced by half after everyone and their mother make their scarlet 32 ammo bellowed. Last time I wouldn't have lose in top 16 if my Siren could stun scarlet.

[hollow lagoon]

ill gib u my comps

[quartz rover]

Do people even run siren in CA?

Seems kinda slow and theres better b1 options

[swift mango]

Yes, in 3rl Cindy team, to counter Blanc and Nero.

[quartz rover]

Not like you can target a certain team with it

[crystal flicker]

Ngl I hate CA now ever since I got matched up with Emi user

[lone sequoia]

yes, is good for decent speed teams, but people prefer to use her with 2RL scarlet (i think soda is better and more fun)

[quartz rover]

Soda is

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gambling-gambler-gif-572068894331490223

[swift mango]

To be frank no one with proper Arena investment and knowledge run Siren in scarlet anymore.

Unless, linked siren p1. But that's just inferior build

[quartz rover]

More rng to the rng thing? Hell yeah

[lone sequoia]

yep, but they do

[swift mango]

Those are just bad players.

[keen vapor]

Well done @hoary maple you managed to proc Indom on the exact same frame Scarlet bursts
I really thought you weren't going to make it

Not even reducing feed from not bringing Siren saved me

[swift mango]

Soda p2 count 2rl Noah+Noise, no RNG involved. RNG counter other comp too but just another bonus on top.

Siren in her heyday also counter Noah but no one with proper arena investment in CA fall for that now. Just make Noise having less CS is the general advice already

[crystal flicker]

Y'all can put beeg ass wall, but Rosa doesn't care

[gritty ridge]

Yes, lots of teams have enough speed to run her

I run her on my vesti team

[swift mango]

Well, the problem on being too strong in normal attack but not tanky enough to tank Rosa. Or your Rosa crited.

It's the team they copied from Neko, the current player with most CA champ in Nikke as a whole.

10 time champs, +maybe last season Idk if he won but probably.

His Vesti probably won't die even if your Rosa crited.

[crystal flicker]

That just bs

Not even stall can survive Scarlet crit, leave alone DPS against Rosa crit

[swift mango]

Scarlet getting mega buffed. Rosa could be buffed if 2-3 of your units got killed at same time and she burst though... There is also noir

[crystal flicker]

Yeh

[swift mango]

There is also how many Crit dmg line you had

My Scar having zero. I would roll 1 or 2 for her soon to replace my slot 1 Ele if I had the rock.

[leaden canyon]

Hows this looking

I expect round 2 to lose

I know the noah team can win against round 2 for sure

[crystal flicker]

That's a big cp gap

[tropic summit]

nice wipe too stronk

[tropic summit]

yes OG scarlet and yes follow the order as in the picture, from left to right (p1, p2, p3, p4, p5)

[tropic summit]

when you'll start working in most office-like jobs, you will everyday

[quartz rover]

2 c7 pilgrims

From the looks of this, they pop vesti before I even get to burst right

Also will siren stun jackal?

[wide kelp]

Something not right here

[crystal flicker]

Do you think 2.5 Cindy can cook against 2RL RH

[crystal flicker]

If bottom is not <2.3RL then yes Siren gonna stun

[umbral crown]

He won last season

[umbral crown]

[crystal flicker]

I'm not sure about that Blanc T3 tho, I believe both of you are 2RL and they gonna get Indom unless your Rosa can Nuke both VesTac and HelmT

[swift mango]

So 11 times now. Need to know if he is on day one bracket or not. Considering the 2 guys in CA is a max out whale, not him. He probably not on a day one bracket. Or else his level would be more than just 641 ish, a F2P range now.

[crystal flicker]

Maybe he's gonna get mixed to my bracket, where it's now full of Emi abuser

[umbral crown]

Emi abuser?

[umbral crown]

Maybe but his investment will make up for it

[quartz rover]

Its 3rl without feed, couldn't tell you with

[crystal flicker]

I got matched up against Emi in Group, and now in 64, and maybe if I win this I will match up against Emi again

[umbral crown]

Its a sigm for you to tell SU to make re zero rerun

So i can get emi gacha skin

Win win

[quartz rover]

That was close

I did not expect to last too long

[swift mango]

well, if he isn't day one account and created more than one year in, his research level alone obviously already gapping his whole CA aside from some rare whale that's probably PvE. Let alone his max core black blue line up. 11 times champ is explainable.

[umbral crown]

Yep, he is going the right way of pvp

[crystal flicker]

or he could be Dev acc with perfect rolls

[quartz rover]

So basically if my jackal got more CS I'd burst blanc first and win

[umbral crown]

Funny thing he was winning with same teams for many seasons, just shuffling them

[swift mango]

Yeah, that's why I assumed he just gapping them mostly with his investment.

Snake made that team with him so more prestigious for Prydwen from working with a whale

[fleet acorn]

Bay really wants 4 charge speed right?

[umbral crown]

I wanna do this when i grow up

[crystal flicker]

Snake getting paid for making CA champions?

[umbral crown]

Oh, did not know

[swift mango]

He said it himself.
He isn't the knowledge and technical style like Keripo.
But the max out investment style.

[crystal flicker]

Prydwen has always been a whale group

Even back in CS

[fleet acorn]

rerolling this into CS is going to hurt bay really wants 4 CS right?

[swift mango]

To be frank, SEA has a max out whale with his self made team that other couldn't copy. And he is still doing well. Research level and investment beat most line up.

[crystal flicker]

I don't know why you rolling CS for Bay, she is not a battery

[fleet acorn]

i assumed since is a RL, dont you ideally want all over 16% for pvp?

[swift mango]

Here is our 5 times champ. He only got into CA half way through like since season 5 or so.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1423718224322760907/1423765056201687160/Champ_arena_4.png?ex=68ec0c09&is=68eaba89&hm=2ccc99ec3b7e5a8c6645fe65af779e33f56d56814aa88aa48b5598c8fc2eb3bd&

And he had practically zero investment at start.

[swift mango]

Dude finally kicked out his Makima and copied proper SG teams.

[fleet acorn]

so then is fine to use bay without rolling for 4 CS?

[crystal flicker]

Yes

Not all RLs are battery

[fleet acorn]

i saw the +5% increase on 2.5RL, thought thats how it worked

[leaden canyon]

btw would rosanna hit noise if both teams are 2RL

[crystal flicker]

She's insignificant compared to true battery

[crystal flicker]

See the difference

[swift mango]

No unless target priority matching. Check Merry comment about Rossanna targeting in Pin.

[crystal flicker]

Yeh, she's gonna hit DPS first

[swift mango]

Attacker first*

Unless you put Rossanna p2 linked.

[leaden canyon]

Going by the pin I guess when noise bursts at the same time rosanna wont get taunted because shes bursting at the same time

[swift mango]

Noise doesn't taunt with burst. Only Noah

[leaden canyon]

oh right

I forgot

Damn

[swift mango]

Put Rossanna p2 linked in Scarlet team if you are CP/level gapping in SpA. She is basically Soda if they don't have Biscuit.

While also beating attacker

[keen vapor]

My Rosanna 5% attack

[quick lake]

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/diesel-nikke-goddess-of-victory-brick-gif-2623610516969749425

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-diesel-brick-gif-8904973372501827928

[mint root]

A Julia and mast wiped my team lol! (They had only 2 units but near the same fire power since they were 120 levels higher)

The counter squad units are level 1

[gritty ridge]

@tropic summit @shell hazel guess what

[jagged mesa]

oh my god i just realized you can drag these to re-order team

[quick lake]

Now u know

Its been here for a longgg time

[jagged mesa]

[gritty ridge]

Rheax I did the impossible

[quick lake]

[gritty ridge]

I defended a 50+ sync gap

[shell hazel]

[quick lake]

Damn, really nice

[shell hazel]

man they must be whaling core dust to have such a gap, same server start almost

c4 mod naturally even though mod has had no banner 😄

[gritty ridge]

Yeah 281 is abt what you could expect from a very very efficient f2p who started around the same time as me

Im technically 275 rn

[glad jungle]

I can't believe I actually qualified for the champion arena promotion tournament!

Too bad I have absolutely no faith in my choice in PvP teams and investment

[topaz bison]

If this is my defense formation, does the jackal or noise burst first? right to left or left to right?

[glad jungle]

Noise first

It's always left to right

Assuming Noise doesn't die before the burst guage is fillled

[topaz bison]

Ok i thought it got mirrored on defense for some reason. And also would i want my jack or noise to be bursting of the two?

[glad jungle]

Hmm, hard to say. Noise is best if you want your team to survive. Jackal is best if you have a strong nuker on your team

But since Noir will be bursting first according to your setup, you're probably fine with Noise going first

[topaz bison]

K ty. at this level as long as my vesti bursts i just insta win. nah this is what the best setup im gonna run now that i know its left to right. think this is best positioning

[quick lake]

Ideally u want noise to burst, but its fine.

[quick lake]

Jackal doesnt buff dmg fyi. Only small handful of nikkes is buffed by jackal’s burst fyi

[glad jungle]

Doesn't it buff burst skill damage?

[quick lake]

not many useful nikkes have “affect 1 enemy”

[gritty ridge]

Helm is the main one iirc

Rapi maybe

[glad jungle]

Hmm...good to know. Guess I know not to have Jackal go first if I have two burst 1s on a team

[keen vapor]

Maiden gaming

[indigo path]

thoughts on if i can win

[glad jungle]

Hmm...I'm no PvP expert...but not likely. I would've said you'd have a chance if you can keep Jackal alive and defeat their Jackal first...but Red Hood's Burst 1 is a ridiculous damage steroid.

Crown is a poor choice due to being a machine gunner, who have poor burst gen

[gritty ridge]

Theres a 90% chance jackal bursts there

Tho you lose cuz youre much slower

[glad jungle]

Well there you have it @indigo path

Not likely to win

[indigo path]

maybe it's time to build centi or trina

[keen vapor]

Right now it's the time for Trina (and Scarlet)

[indigo path]

so Jackal Ein Trina Testi Sanis should be fine?

[keen vapor]

No

[indigo path]

[keen vapor]

3 B III that don't excel at speed

[glad jungle]

Is it Ein and SAnis who are the issue?

[keen vapor]

More or less

[glad jungle]

I heard Tactical Vesti is god-tier in PvP. But maybe she needs a team built around her?

But you said speed is the issue. I guess Trina and Jacakal just aren't enough, with just two Rocket Launchers

[keen vapor]

Often 3 clip RL are needed to be fast

[indigo path]

sorry i'm waiting in coop i can get a lineup in a bit

[quick lake]

At ur sync, better to just throw ur CP team into pvp and focus on pve

[umbral belfry]

I'm about to throw you

[quick lake]

But its true

[umbral belfry]

I know

[gritty ridge]

Nah, brick pve

Be the new pvp menace

[indigo path]

nowhere to go

i'm stuck at chap22 nihilister

tower is like 30% deficit

[covert lintel]

I got tricked
I thought og scar is linked

[umbral belfry]

indom helm

[umbral crown]

where your rosanna owo

[covert lintel]

Fighting other team

[umbral crown]

Oh but you won the others?

[vapid lake]

this smells like another pvp unit just like her base unit

[covert lintel]

No
1W

[umbral belfry]

surely devs aren't that evil

[umbral crown]

Then we pull

[covert lintel]

This is anniv nikke?

[umbral belfry]

bait nikke

[umbral crown]

calls wallet kun to gey ready

[umbral crown]

No, banner before anni

[vapid lake]

The bait right before anni

[covert lintel]

Wha
Another bait

[umbral crown]

If anni units are pve, i skip

Not gonna get baited by pve units

[covert lintel]

People predict it will be liberalio
why skip

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

Cuz me not pve boi

I skipped grave back then

[covert lintel]

i still get her for tower

[unique mountain]

Chat who winning this

[covert lintel]

Right side 3 wins

[unique mountain]

Okie

[umbral crown]

I have neve rused her, and somehow she is mlb

[unique mountain]

Blood insta voted right cause he saw sora , i was sceptical

[umbral crown]

Right wins

[unique mountain]

Very pog , ok

[umbral crown]

[unique mountain]

Have a meme

[keen vapor]

Simultaneous banner suggests a second bait

[cunning crown]

sacc delta strat

[umbral crown]

then delta happens to be a clip

[bleak shale]

remember when they said they werent focusing on pvp anymore

[umbral crown]

Uwu

Use 100 gems and try again

[keen vapor]

They focus on surface mode maybe🤔

[bleak shale]

focusing on QA so we dont get SR bugs

[covert lintel]

I rather use it for wipeout

[umbral crown]

thats not what i would do

i wipe out daily cuz its free

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/i-used-to-pray-for-times-like-this-celebrating-gif-6529507804860980052

[forest zodiac]

Can some one please please help with this?

[umbral belfry]

T1 skip
T2 scar trina siren centi jack
T3 noise noah cindy helm rumani

[forest zodiac]

thank youu

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

Hime im working on noise rn, after her should I do drake, poli, or b.soda?

[umbral belfry]

either drake or bsoda

[gritty ridge]

Im working on poli treasure which is why shes there

[umbral belfry]

I'd still say drakeT or bsoda over PoliT

and if drake isn't treasured yet I'd prio her treasure over poli

[gritty ridge]

Finished drakes treasure right before CA

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

She was sr14 tho

[umbral belfry]

bad luck

[gritty ridge]

She is truly evil and villainous

7 4 7 alright for drake?

[umbral belfry]

not 100% sure of her skill prio but should be fine

[gritty ridge]

S1 buffs sg dmg, s2 is more relevant for pve

Specifically for bossing

Ill just 7 7 7

Ezpz

[fast nest]

I guess
RLRRR
idk if it is right or not.

[livid rover]

What's the pvp comp I can make?

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/home?uid=MjkwODAtMTM4NTkyMjEyMzYzODY1NDYxNA%3D%3D&openid=MjkwODAtMTM4NTkyMjEyMzYzODY1NDYxNA%3D%3D

[slender radish]

Does anyone know if shotguns are a bad matchup into stall team?

[fickle jetty]

i use that one i will lose to his sania

err no
just previous experience

i dont have rumani

[raven plover]

damn still got outstalled I thought sbs would be enough

[raven plover]

swap sbs with rapipi, put quantum on jack and laplace

[spiral onyx]

I don't see her value. She is a premium buffer for VestiT but VestiT is so strong she doesn't really need a buffer. She is generally better than, say, Maxwell, but her role is very niche atm

[quick void]

hii can someone help me build teams for pvp sp arena and rookie arena

[atomic wolf]

@tropic summit

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dog-with-butterfly-on-nose-dog-with-butterfly-butterfly-gif-13282441872748349107

i haven't been giving a shit about the game for two months now and i feel at ease

while this idiot is trying to ragebait me with his money

[ivory violet]

You have decent Nikes for your level while these aren’t perfect PvP teams they should be good enough to beat your peers who don’t know what they’re doing.
T1: Very defensive and offensive team at the same time. I doubt any of your rivals can counter you
T2: Classic fast scarlet burst team
T3: CP padding team. There’s a huge stat penalty if your opponent is down in CP. The idea is to just overwhelm them. The two good teams + CP padding strat is what even top level players do because it's the most efficient way to build SP Arena

Next step for you is to get your Helm SR15 and get her treasure. She's useful in PvP, campaign, solo raid, elysion tower. Strong recommend you build her up asap

[quick void]

omg this is so detailed

thank you

[rough osprey]

who are clipRL?

[ivory violet]

Happy to help let me know if these teams don't work or if there's a specific matchup you can't counter

[quick void]

okay!

[shell hazel]

yes not sure why they put her so highly rated. I think she is good and can be used for the raids as well, but not top tier pvp unit

[shell hazel]

biggest issue with t1 is that noise is the only b1 and she's at p1 on a 3RL timing

if noise is not built she is dead

[ivory violet]

good point, could swap her position with noah or even replace drake with red hood or liter

[shell hazel]

drake has decent burst gen though will get too slow

RH also main b2 in t3, you don't want RH to b2

[ivory violet]

It's a 3rl team even without a 5th unit

Idk if t3 will even get to burst it's so slow the idea is to just cp gap

[shell hazel]

ah in which case yes you could add another b1 to the end

yeah it's slow but I still like to think the ordering should support that it can burst without being silly

we have sort of got the pieces to slow cindy but we don't have mihara to sac unfortunately

[hollow eagle]

Anis(SR) Centi Rumani Trina Jackal

[spiral onyx]

everyone on Prydwen's list is S tier

I'll do my tier list update... one day

really need to take a week off work or some shit to catch up on everything else

[shell hazel]

christmas soon take 2 weeks off then 🙂

[primal charm]

An indom ada can solo an entire team?

[quick void]

ooo who replaces red hood on the third team? anis/scarlet?

[primal charm]

I think ss rank is understandable chat

[shell hazel]

you don't need ada to indom solo a team though

she has at best a very specific niche case then and she actually needs to be built/stacked well enough to do it

[shell hazel]

3rd team you would just have to go with highest cp units left more or less

[quick void]

oki

[primal charm]

Who else can do it tho? If i use besti on anothr team?

[hollow eagle]

PvE buffer give or take, to use in pvp she would need good investment and dupe for most ppl, it's quite expensive to spend on collab now while anniv is so near

[shell hazel]

maybe

[quick void]

ooo

[shell hazel]

that team 2 with slow cindy may confuse a few people who don't know how to try to deal with it

[shell hazel]

rapi/sbs can indom solo teams

[hollow eagle]

also investing in Ada for CA is wild work, but if you like CA sure

[shell hazel]

I don't think there is room to fit her in a CA team if you have basically all the core pvp units

[shell hazel]

drake and pepper aren't great here btw, both feed and SG can be a liability in SPA.

[quick lake]

Trina Noah Helm Rumani Centi Jackal Anis

[ivory violet]

One thing I would avoid is putting cinderella in p1

[shell hazel]

make sure your wishlist includes missing pvp units like Centi, Trina

[shell hazel]

is slow cindy it makes sense for this comp only

[ivory violet]

What advantage is there to helping your opponent burst faster in slow cindy comp?

[shell hazel]

see https://youtu.be/9VnghlUBAx8?si=HTAPs3ffrHQE4fZr&t=62

[quick void]

okay any others?

[shell hazel]

also see https://youtu.be/DrCJScZKo54?si=hNVlnazDTx5ZCl-i&t=60

you speed up opponent and their noah shield runs out by the time cindy bursts

[ivory violet]

It's so she gets biscuit indom. It works but imo 2rl scarlet would work better as a sp arena defense team

[shell hazel]

can't 2rl scar without trina at least

I think this will confuse the hell out of the opponents that Merlin is facing 😄

[quick void]

thanks guys 😭

[ivory violet]

You can 2rl with his teams. I meant try both and see what works

[quick void]

been on a losing streak in pvp

[hollow lagoon]

Biscuit jackal rumani

[shell hazel]

it's bad no scar buff

[ivory violet]

The slow cindy strat is cool but not as generally good on defense

[shell hazel]

need trina/jackal for scar ideally

[shell hazel]

I think you may be surprised on that one, would be more effective if they had midhara though

I drew boxes around the ones I don't think you need

see if we have better options here

[quick void]

okay

[shell hazel]

for elysion, make sure you have all 3 of the new absolute squad

so eunwha + emma

[hollow lagoon]

Tbh if you are that new u won’t be needing Moran either

[quick void]

yes

[shell hazel]

may as well get a single copy

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

same as like tove etc, won't need now but get a copy is good

[hollow lagoon]

If he’s that new get Blanc and rouge and stuff

[shell hazel]

he has blanc and rouge

[hollow lagoon]

Do u?

[quick void]

ye

[shell hazel]

post who you don't have in each manufacturer if you want merlin can suggest replacements

from the available list to select out of

[hollow lagoon]

MLB?

[quick void]

okay

[fringe tartan]

Hey guys, I have a question. Is there anyway around countering a 2RL team with Rosanna in it? Is it just to try get more charge speed so you can get b2 like blanc/noah off just a bit faster before rosanna nukes you?

[shell hazel]

missing a lot of units have to balance mlb + get missing ones

[shell hazel]

what is the team?

[hollow lagoon]

160 wall is a thing

[shell hazel]

it is yes will get to that, just want to see the best options to get

[rough osprey]

guys is scarlet nr1 currently?

[hollow lagoon]

No

[fringe tartan]

scarlet trina rosanna Thelm jackal. I tried both blanc and noah 2RL but its really inconsistent

[shell hazel]

is it rookie or spa?

[fringe tartan]

rookie

[shell hazel]

how many tries you got left?

[shell hazel]

yeah main ones here are the two new absolute squad members, can take guillotine out

[quick void]

yep alr did

[fringe tartan]

none left today

but ive been winning consistently until today. One won and then immedialte lost 2

so they probably changed something up

[hollow lagoon]

Or ur sync is not on their level

[fringe tartan]

im above them

[shell hazel]

try this next

helm will die, but xmaiden b3 is fine

[fringe tartan]

no maiden

[shell hazel]

cindy then

still 2RL

[fringe tartan]

oh yea...

cindy lmao

bruh.... i just forgot about her completely. I dropped her for vesti like last week

[shell hazel]

drop harran and modernia, we want rapunzel, midhara, grave

[quick void]

okay

[shell hazel]

grave has alt options, I'd put her behind the other two

[fringe tartan]

ty all ill try this 2moro

[shell hazel]

so harran mod out, rapu midhara in, just need a copy of each

[quick void]

okay swapped

[shell hazel]

new bunny ade can replace grave essentially

[quick void]

ooo

[shell hazel]

who we missing in missilis?

[hollow lagoon]

Laplace?

[shell hazel]

yes certainly so but wondering who else

[hollow lagoon]

Qeq

Ein

[quick void]

should i get her dupes for treasure?

[hollow lagoon]

Naga

[shell hazel]

yes but it's a long road

[quick void]

i have ein and naga

[hollow lagoon]

Tia

[shell hazel]

they have naga at least, I want the screenshot of who is missing

easier to see then

[hollow lagoon]

I’m missing crow mlb

[hollow lagoon]

That’s a fine Missilis start honestly

[shell hazel]

mana and qeq worth getting a copy of long term

[hollow lagoon]

Oh I thought u had Qeq

[shell hazel]

the others that you lack are meh

you can keep laplace in the list for long term treasure it's good

I'd yuni out for qeq or mana for now

once you get some of the 5 missing ones, add Laplace back in, or keep Laplace in and once you get another one swap out for mana or qeq

[quick void]

okayy

[shell hazel]

Laplace needs 3 copies for treasure so might be good to keep in list longer

yuni out for Laplace gets my vote actually

[hollow lagoon]

U can get 1 copy and silver mileage rest of Laplace if she still exist in the mileage shop

[shell hazel]

is old treasure not sure she does

[quick void]

okay swapped

[shell hazel]

what about tetra?

[shell hazel]

so much junk in tetra it's basically waifu collector

[hollow lagoon]

Yan for Nero

Clay for….

[shell hazel]

viper or soda

[hollow lagoon]

Bsoda if he don’t have

Honestly if I were him I try to prep 160 wall

[shell hazel]

I don't see bsoda in the not collected list

[quick void]

LOL

i have bsoda

[shell hazel]

yeah thought so

clay for viper imo

as zanta said you may also want to throw a nod to trying to include units you have at say 2* so you can MLB them to break the wall

I think your list should look good for missing units that are worth getting - but you need to consider if you want to chase missing units more vs 160 wall

[quick void]

which wall

im at 200 alr

[hollow lagoon]

Ur not building Moran Nero team that early into a account

Ur 200 and missing that many units?

Bro whale sync?

[quick void]

yeah 😭

no i didnt whale

only for gacha some cashing

[shell hazel]

then I think the list of units to get is good

I keep vesti TU in elysion list btw longer term, once you get some of the missing ones just keep the better units in the list for dupes

I hope to one day core 7 vesti just using wishlist but will take a minute 😄

[quick void]

LOL im also keeping her in wishlist

[shell hazel]

helm treasure is a massive one to get as well

best burst gen in pvp I think, maybe only competed by emilia who is a colab unit we won't have

and that emi would need a lot of CS rolls

[hollow lagoon]

In b4 u get back to back vesti from elysionn molds

[shell hazel]

i'll open the molds first prob I'm keeping them for now

[hollow lagoon]

Ends up with core 3 vesti

[shell hazel]

we can dream

[hollow lagoon]

Already happened

[quick void]

ooo

[shell hazel]

eventually you can slot in missing units when you have less gaps

I've added everyone I didn't have at some point. for some reason I still don't have viper

[hollow lagoon]

It’s only fair I since I got blue/purple from my 2recent pilgrim molds

[quick void]

i just got moran

[hollow lagoon]

I’m glad I have the foresight to get 20 ammo vesti

I actually end up using it in a match

[shell hazel]

nice she is good but not true meta really, she's got a bit of a niche use on an expensive team

[quick void]

ooo

[shell hazel]

still, one more off the list, swap her out for soda

[quick void]

not bunny soda?

[shell hazel]

you have bunny soda

[hollow lagoon]

Me here still with uninvested soda

[quick void]

okay

[hollow lagoon]

Don’t let him poison ur mind with the need to pull niche af PvP units, u might end up like him

[quick void]

LOL

so ur saying i might end up a pro nikke player?

[hollow lagoon]

Swinging around a level 10 tempering cube

And not getting tier 3 raid frames

[quick void]

damn

[shell hazel]

soda applies random stun to enemies
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EdIPromQcQM

[quick void]

oooo

[hollow lagoon]

Soda is a champ arena unit

[quick void]

time to finally try out my new teams in pvp

[hollow lagoon]

And we established investing champ arena is bad idea

[shell hazel]

nah soda has use in SPA as well as flex for 2RL scar

if you have an annoying opponent near your level who you want to rng their matches 😄

she's perfect for a gacha game, gamba stun

[quick void]

oh lmao

[hollow lagoon]

U might as well get more dupes for existent performance units instead of having a soda lined up for investment like 3 years later

[shell hazel]

personally I'd gun for missing units over dupes initially

even missing units that I'll never use

[hollow lagoon]

U gun for missing units if u mlbed everything else

[shell hazel]

only exception may be pilgrim as units like harran do nothing

[hollow lagoon]

Like me

[shell hazel]

so you want only the best pilgrims if you get one on ordinary banner

[hollow lagoon]

U don’t gun for missing random Elysion if ur maid duo is nor maxes

[shell hazel]

I would 😛

[hollow lagoon]

Well explains how u having higher skill levels and better gear levels and better ol rolls on units atill having issues with raid

[shell hazel]

missing units gives you points in the server rankings as well

[hollow lagoon]

Bro I’m getting 3% on skill levels 8 and gear level 3 units

[shell hazel]

yeah but you whaled cores and skill books and such, I don't have that

it's fine I'll fix them at some point, unless we get new units my pvp stuff is basically done now

[hollow lagoon]

My 10/9/8 mast says hi Lel

Last raid she was like 8/8/8

[shell hazel]

it's not mast skill levels that are the issue, it's having invested supports/dps that can do the damage

[hollow lagoon]

Supports are more important since they are the skeleton

Then u slap corresponding synthesizing dps on it

I used this Jill

For one of the teams

[shell hazel]

well let's look at high level here.
I've overloaded 32 units, you've done 46
I've got SR-15 on 25 units, you've got 33
I've got skill sum at 1414, yours is 1951 (sum of all skill/burst columns)

[hollow lagoon]

Yeah I have random skill levels in stuff like

Smol white Admi xmica

[shell hazel]

majority of my overloaded units are pvp ones, they don't really help in raids outside of like Trina

you also have way more cores than me in general

and higher research levels etc I imagine

[hollow lagoon]

That one is?

Maybe ur account lived longer

[shell hazel]

your cores are count 162, sum 885
mine is count 150, sum 420

am not in game to check the research levels but if you ever buy those I don't, so it's whatever I had

[hollow lagoon]

94vs 75

[shell hazel]

general attacker ones etc as well

the difference there isn't that great but I only get the freebie ones for these basically

still I can't keep up currently as I simply haven't overloaded/dolled the units I want to yet, I will though it's just a time thing

[quick void]

oh ya which team do i use for rookie arena? the first team with noise and vesti?

[hollow lagoon]

Bro u max dolled biscuit

[shell hazel]

right

[hollow lagoon]

I thought ur like super loaded in doll mats

[shell hazel]

no

you can't have gotten so much luckier with these that you dolled 8 more units to SR-15 than me in less time

if you have it's extreme luck

or unluckiness on my part

[hollow lagoon]

Bro I dolled 15 on purple stuff for like 4 dolls

And some on blues

[shell hazel]

it depends what you're facing

[hollow lagoon]

I think I do have good/ decent luck

[shell hazel]

well it basically never goes that way for me. The R-15 jump isn't usually too bad but this is like 200 blues on average probably

then SR-5 to SR-15 usually takes me a bunch of stuff

[hollow lagoon]

R-15 is anywhere from50-400 blues

[shell hazel]

but the stats don't lie, you've SR-15'ed 8 more units in less time than I have 😛

[quick void]

this dood

[gaunt pulsar]

wonder how long you playing if it's only 32 i guess 4piece OL units? did a math recently on gear exp per day/month/year recently and i think you should be at more

[hollow lagoon]

Sr-15 is gamba good fun, my resource spending depends on my resource count, I mix blue purple and gold kits

[shell hazel]

you also have way more SR-5 than I do

[hollow lagoon]

Sr5 is like a given

Non sr5 feel like icky to use

[shell hazel]

I mean I don't have more materials to use on it

so you don't buy any doll materials at all?

or get like a huge number of rebates of it from the pilgrim pulls on the events?

[hollow lagoon]

I do buy them, but u only get to buy them on banner release

So like….

More like I roll my outpost

[shell hazel]

I do that as well

not to extremes but I do it

[shell hazel]

it will be 1 year exactly at the end of this month

either way clearly it seems you've just had a lot more resources to throw at stuff, I can't say I have so I just make do :p

[hollow lagoon]

Says the man who sr15 biscuit and I’m like holy crap this guy must be urber stacked on doll mats

[shell hazel]

no I just said I'd pvp maxi for this year

so my pve suffers for it, but long term my pvp will be more or less done

I don't whale gap sync my bracket so the pvp invest means I can keep on top of the 3000 gems/2 weeks

[hollow lagoon]

I just feel like anymore I put in PvP hurts my account significantly, I level Nero skill 1 to 10 and I have nothing for my fire units for weeks

[shell hazel]

the game is a marathon anyway I'll just invest more in pve later, almost all the main pvp units have skills where I want now so I can afford to spend some of those elsewhere

dolls are basically done, I can probably skip on specific CA SR-15 (SR-5 is fine for some of them)

OL's are in a good spot basically where I want for most as well

need to spend some rocks still and will into the future to get my core CS where I want but it will focus on the units I use in SPA

[hollow lagoon]

That 50 rocks into rapunzel and fail to get 4 lines of charge speed will haunt me for a long time

[gaunt pulsar]

i see, i guess it makes sense then, if we account for you having a bunch of units at lv2-lv3 maybe lv5 gear, might be even more exp than I calc then

[shell hazel]

most of my OL +3

I tend to stop there

[hollow lagoon]

My standard is 0 for PvP 2 for support 3 for typical dps 4 for strong dps and 5 for my one campaign team

[shell hazel]

you have a lot more in OL levels than I do

this is yours

this is mine

[hollow lagoon]

I buy my daily 12 gold gear exp what do u expect

[shell hazel]

unrealistic expectations on how much resources I have to spend on things 😄

[glad meteor]

+5+4 ol is too expensive

[shell hazel]

right it's why I've barely got any

I think I only have one it's something on cindy and I did it early on as noob lol

[glad meteor]

I stop at +3 unless I’m coping for cp or some more atk

[shell hazel]

I will eventually +5 main campaign and core pvp dps

[glad meteor]

Cindy scales off atk and hp so i did too

[hollow lagoon]

Yeah u did a +5 glove on Cindy and I was like boi loves Cindy more than i do

[shell hazel]

I had no other pilgrim def gear for ages was desperate to keep my cindy strong

I had to drop her out for Alice at some point I couldn't OL her more

[hollow lagoon]

Now def gear overflow

[shell hazel]

it took me 6 weeks to get her a def helm from AI

maybe more, in that time I had elysion def helm like 10 times

[hollow lagoon]

My gear stock is getting low again

[shell hazel]

I will need to head to mines for more general gear for raid units at some point

[hollow lagoon]

And @umbral belfry started stealing my rocks from indivilia

[shell hazel]

the bones/t9m thing won't be enough

[hollow lagoon]

Picking gear from the bone is

I’m not sure

[shell hazel]

I have enough for 4 random pieces of selector gear

[hollow lagoon]

I feel the other resources have immediate and bigger impact

[shell hazel]

but I may as well save it for when I need the gear the most

[hollow lagoon]

Yes lol

[shell hazel]

instead I'll try to farm the slot where my raid units are missing them the most

[hollow lagoon]

I don’t have a full set of pilgrim attack at the moment and anni is soon

[shell hazel]

I'm thinking I may not be able to max the new anni unit right away but I think I can get some of the way there, or most of it, and then chip away at it

[hollow lagoon]

I literally only touched kraken to guarantee 1 rock to slap on Ada’s head

Raid on dis

[shell hazel]

once my main pvp units are +3 OL btw I intend to basic OL raid units

those will just be +0 and a rock initially, but it will improve my raids a lot

[hollow lagoon]

Bro I haven’t pulled the switch not ol gear around bull shit in a long time

U know how Jill has level 3 orange chest and gloves on her Lel

I raided with Ada then switch to Jill

[shell hazel]

yeah I want to avoid that if possible

once I am OL my raid units should hopefully get back to 3%

or to 3% frame

[hollow lagoon]

Raid units don’t need ol unless dps

[shell hazel]

yeah missing a lot of dps

[hollow lagoon]

My tove/absolute whatever still orange gear

[shell hazel]

it will help anyway right now it's just sheer cope

I mean if I had my s.anis overloaded with even OK stuff she'd probably be capable of actually doing some damage on this raid 😛

[hollow lagoon]

Did u overload liter?

[shell hazel]

I did but she was my 1st campaign b1

[hollow lagoon]

[shell hazel]

also needed her for a few bosses

liter was the best b1 at the time I started anyway

rapi and siren came later

[hollow lagoon]

I copium rouge, by the time I started thinking about it Rapi came along

And my liter is gonna sit on orange forever at this rate

[shell hazel]

yeah even though I know rouge/dkw don't need great ol gear to function, they do need skills still

and those on mine are probably 4/4/4 😛

[hollow lagoon]

Rouge dkw still need 1 ammo line

And in case of rouge her attack actually matters

Which is rough

[shell hazel]

so yeah I want to build them up a bit too.. just resources/time, I'm working on it

my b1's

[hollow lagoon]

10/10/10 Moran

[shell hazel]

yep gotta do it

[hollow lagoon]

Bro…

777 jackal

[shell hazel]

yup

and rumani

all in on pvp and campaign what can I say 😛

[gaunt pulsar]

you are 5 pieces above average in 11 month as ftp hard to account for extra exp we get from events though and maybe some other sources that i'm forgetting, that's if you don't buy gear exp boxes for bones though, with them included should be higher but yea, thanks for examples, could see that I wasn't far off calculating just averages

[hollow lagoon]

444 dkw and rouge, u cant even get smooth burst rotation off

[shell hazel]

I wipe out a bit extra also (gives some additional xp)

bear in mind I have a few random OL +0 bits elsewhere (6 pieces)

I counted em it's 6

[hollow lagoon]

Me here can’t level skills cuz i dont even have elements books

[gaunt pulsar]

those are not included on screenshot?

[shell hazel]

yeah I want to fix this kind of thing though I'm wondering if one of the new anni units will be b1

[shell hazel]

no was a few random ones didn't include

[gaunt pulsar]

👌

[hollow lagoon]

There are people projecting nyuta to be healer, we’lll see Lel

Any sustain unit that does more than just sustain is welcome

[shell hazel]

I do have some skill books I can spend on rouge/dkw I just don't want to invest too hard in em if SU then powercreeps them out 😄

but I imagine that volume is the first b1 to be crept out if there is such a thing

[hollow lagoon]

More like Moran has better chance of being creeped out before the b1 cdrs

[shell hazel]

siren, liter, rouge, dkw, doro, volume seem the main ones

[shell hazel]

needed for stall comp not sure on longevity of pvp units but have to build what works at the time

[hollow lagoon]

PvP is more volatile than pve units, I just know PvP got lite on fire when vesti happened

[shell hazel]

it is, though it doesn't seem that many new pvp units come along

we had 3-4 good ones in 2025?

[gaunt pulsar]

on average we should be around 190 OL pieces a year or 47 characters 4pieces OL, but that's only from t9m to lv0 OL, leveling them to lv3 and 4 cuts off some exp
if you would buy gear exp boxes from recycle shop each week that's extra ~26 pieces per year so 216 total

[shell hazel]

I can keep up with building those as long as don't need like 12/12 lines like vesti wants

[hollow lagoon]

Idk? Trina vesti for 2025?

Ada?

[shell hazel]

I don't count ada as pvp unit tbh

[hollow lagoon]

Prydwen have her in SS tier like mana

[shell hazel]

yeah it's wrong imo

they just gave up updating the event banners here lol https://nikke.gg/event-overview/

[hollow lagoon]

SSR DELTA

Good chance of being wind code then

I guess I reset the 7/7/7 asuka i preped

Holy crap anni might have wind raid

[shell hazel]

which asuka?

[hollow lagoon]

The wind

[shell hazel]

why would you reset if it's wind raid?

[hollow lagoon]

Only so much resource to go around

[shell hazel]

but surely she is wind elemental 😮

[hollow lagoon]

And NIKKE units are more valuable then abnormal

Not enough elemental books to go around in the universe

Tha mlb asuka W will prob never get any stronger

But other units can get cores

[shell hazel]

this is the nikkes released in 2025 list

[hollow lagoon]

The a gain 7/7/7 is not too steep

[shell hazel]

includes re-runs

[hollow lagoon]

Sora and crust the dead release of 2025

[shell hazel]

so for pvp it's mainly Trina and Vesti, with a few off beat ones like Mihara that can work

I think for an entire year that isn't too much change

we may yet get 1 more before the year is out

[gaunt pulsar]

siren?

[hollow lagoon]

Delta is coming tmr?

[shell hazel]

Ada/Mihara/Siren also appear to be reasonable pve builds

[shell hazel]

yeah she counts but is mainly pve meta, and I think will see less use in CA over time

[shell hazel]

AI being AI it's probably just giving me today

[hollow lagoon]

Lel

Delta kinda prob will pull

Tho the investment is gonna have to

Not be touched much

[shell hazel]

will wait to see kit

if it's skippable I wishlist later

[hollow lagoon]

Last year the pre anni units was QeQ

And phantom?

Man my phantom hanging with pink head

The price I paid for holo kraken

[shell hazel]

I get OK number of ord tickets over time so I send as many nikke as possible to the wishlist 😄

[gaunt pulsar]

if Delta is good dps i might pull, my Elysion box is atrocious, also if she is wind again that's might be our first proper Ely wind dps

[shell hazel]

will still be duping out my main pvp units with wishlist sorry Zanta

[hollow lagoon]

I have 100 blue tickets

[shell hazel]

even if I switch to pve stuff

[hollow lagoon]

At this point I think I’ll see a 101010 Nero on u before 7/7/7 rouge

[shell hazel]

nah Nero is done, sealed

she needs dupes the most, LB0 is rough

[hollow lagoon]

I won believe u unless I see it

[shell hazel]

I may be able to 7/7/7 rouge already tbh

but I think I'll be low on skill manuals after that

at some point I will need to save them for anni unit to see what I can do there

same for rocks and gear xp

rec rouge over dkw here?

[hollow lagoon]

I feel obligated to finish ol on Ada but I hit 12 b and I feel safe

[shell hazel]

I will try to OL 2 ada pieces before SR ends

I want to see if I can use her for MC later on anyway

[hollow lagoon]

Bigger buff for non piercers+minor sustain+non zero chance u using her for mirrior container

[shell hazel]

so 7/7/7 is the rec? I can probably do it when I get back in game later

[hollow lagoon]

Prob not the rec

[shell hazel]

my skill books are a lot more usable now

but I need to max the usefulness a bit

[hollow lagoon]

Prob some thing like 8/4/7 would be smooth and good enough?

Or 8/7/7

[shell hazel]

is rec from prydwen

[hollow lagoon]

Prob correct

[shell hazel]

at a min I can go 7/4/4

[hollow lagoon]

I give burst a bit more priority tho

[shell hazel]

I'd probably +1 the others, so 7/4/4 => 8/5/5

etc

[hollow lagoon]

Ur issue of u doing less than me in solo raid is not even the investment

Its the fact u have invest ment in good units

U just lack the 1 piece to complete the archetype

[graceful grotto]

7 4 4 is basically just for the cdr

[shell hazel]

well I'll prio the units I use in every raid somewhat first

[graceful grotto]

for rouge worth going for 10 7 7 imo

[shell hazel]

this is the main b1/b2 supports

[graceful grotto]

basically 4th best b1 cdr if u consider rapipi as b1

otherwise 3rd best

[hollow lagoon]

Using rapipi as b1 is situational af Kekek

[shell hazel]

yeah, limited skill books don't think I can 10/7/7 today but I'll see what I can do before SR ends

[graceful grotto]

if we get another strong cdr, dkw will be benched first rather than rouge

[hollow lagoon]

Dkw just get shoved into pure cdr duty

[shell hazel]

so rouge to 10/7/7 or as close as possible + OL 1-2 Ada pieces then I'll just send my SR teams

[graceful grotto]

i ran rapipi b1 in this SR lol