pvp-arena

[leaden canyon]

yep

[umbral crown]

Just make your scar string enough to kill sirens and sodas with counters

[gritty ridge]

So true

60% atk and pay the devs to increase your counter chance

[umbral crown]

[leaden canyon]

how much cs does vesti need for the burst gen increase again?

10 right?

[gritty ridge]

5 and 12 i think are her breakpoints?

I could be wrong

[coarse lake]

30-32

[frank zephyr]

He SR15'd and did 2 OLs on Mihara, R15 on Jackal and Scarlet. Still roach CP without overloads but I think he should be much better off. The teams he's fighting are 170k or so

[gritty ridge]

Thats not the worst

[frank zephyr]

He's asking if it's worth the rocks to overload these teams

I can't answer that for him because I CP gap my competition in SPA so my units have nothing

No dolls, no OLs

[coarse lake]

if you don't max doll rumani, just don't bother running slow cindy imo

even then, I wouldn't bother, just loses to trina + b1 buff scar

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

can even be 3rl scar

[umbral crown]

Just if they know

Not many people.know how to countet this team

[frank zephyr]

They don't need to know, they just need to ask someone who does :^)

[coarse lake]

that variant of slow cindy in particular was never designed for rookie/sp

it's mainly designed for ca

[frank zephyr]

They're working on dolls, they barely had any RL spares because they went to Cinderella and SBS for campaign

[umbral crown]

I recommended that comp to a mate and its working fine in his sp, i could say depends the knowlegde of the people if they k ow how to counter

[coarse lake]

if you have sync adv, slow cindy is workable

but it's still very expensive

[umbral crown]

Slow cindy, nero team and some vesti team or instead nero team a scar team

[coarse lake]

but well, sp and rookie is too easy these days anyway, just try whatever, odds are, highest cp combos are best

[umbral crown]

[frank zephyr]

They only have a 10 sync advantage

[umbral crown]

Im running 3 RL noah noise sanis biscuit x maiden, nero team 3 rl and vesti 2 rl and im winning against people.with 30+ syncs

[frank zephyr]

But that can change fast since a lot of his opponents are behind the 160 wall and will shoot right up to 201+ once they get their last MLB

[umbral crown]

Sometimes what works for you does not for.me but all depends the people in your bracket

[coarse lake]

if bracket is that early, prob just see what units they got and what they're missing

[umbral crown]

Tell him to give a try , nothing to lose

3rd team csn be cp.pad team

And if he loses you can try swapping team 2 and team 3, i did that and for some reason tje boi who was always attackig me stopped it since he lost like 3-4 times

[keen vapor]

WHAT

[keen vapor]

[leaden canyon]

Which version of this team for SP arena

[umbral crown]

Firs tpic but change hero for emi

[leaden canyon]

why emi

[umbral crown]

Because emi hits P1-P3

Same as vesti and has more cs

[keen vapor]

I'm fine with Laplace tbh

[umbral crown]

[leaden canyon]

I thought lap also hit p3, I actually dont remember lmao

[umbral crown]

P1 and P2

Only Emi and Vesti hits P1-P3

[keen vapor]

But harder than Emi

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

You know it's true

[umbral crown]

Its not

[keen vapor]

Whenever a bug is not involved, it's true

[umbral crown]

Im.nt talking about bug

Laplace iron so.works against scars trina P1 P2

But emi hits p3 as well, vesti strong as well

[leaden canyon]

my lap is 60k cp higher than my emi

[umbral crown]

Oh well give a try then, nothing to lose

[keen vapor]

Use lap but you should invest your Emi

Pros here have invested Emi

[umbral crown]

Worse case you get demoted but that can be fixed anytime with gems

[leaden canyon]

she jsut has the cs rolls she needs for 16%, almost have enough for the 2RL point for her

[umbral crown]

No atk?

[leaden canyon]

some

[umbral crown]

Ele

[keen vapor]

Ammo

[umbral crown]

Like 1 or 2

[keen vapor]

Ammo is 2 if main DPS

[leaden canyon]

I need to fix her up a bit but no rocks really to go around

I'm working on vesti still

[umbral crown]

Emi 31

[keen vapor]

Those gears are really hard to work on

[leaden canyon]

ik..................

[umbral crown]

Hope she has gacha skin

[leaden canyon]

what is it 35 that I need?

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

38 but your is fast enough already

[leaden canyon]

damn thats like 4 6% rolls and cs cube

Going to run this for SP defense

[umbral crown]

Centi there to ensure link is between scar and rosa?

If you change centi for emi, would the link still be with scar and rosa?

[leaden canyon]

you know I forgot I'm not using emi in this new defense

yeah centi can go out for emi

I rearranged stuff where emi was on another team before

Good looking out

this is still 2RL before and after jackal link gets broken right? I forget how much jackal feed you get and then there is scar s2 gen

[umbral crown]

1.53% .. any team could feed that

Or just give emi quatum

Your jackal and trina without cs

Well, time to mimir

[leaden canyon]

trina 7% and jackal 6%

I just dont have the rocks

Got really unlucky on some important characters that ate all my rocks

[swift mango]

Lock 3 and reroll for atk

Crossbow = RL
SG = RL
I guess Hand gun = MG?

[uncut crown]

I don't remember who suggested it to me here but against my better judgement I decided I will roll for Summer Anis. I got extremely lucky MLBing Bunny Ade in 30 recruits, so I am sure the game will punish me and give me nothing. However, given the next event I am really thinking about it winter, I may as well try. Thanks for answering my questions then whoever that was.

[shell hazel]

just bear in mind s.anis isnt that good in pvp anymore, and I still think prydwen overstates her score

they lowered her already once but I barely see anyone running her, including in CA where you need 5 teams not 3

nah I still beat em lol, basically same as before, am in CP range still so all good

they did bump to 421 like I thought they might do

[uncut crown]

Thank you for letting me know!! I still will probably pull since people said she is still somewhat useful, but I will seriously think about what you said.

[shell hazel]

I got a copy, she's good for pve still, and raids and such

just don't expect her to necessarily do much for your pvp and on that basis it's worth getting at least the one copy

[nimble swan]

I actually thought it might be more problematic, but then you just need to keep this 30lv distance and it will be ok. You can always jump a few lvs if you are about to get penalized.

I was also having the urges to hit on C1 because he has dumb teams and a 20lv diff. But man..
That guy is crazy, he attacks 6x in a row if that’s what’s needed to take back c1.
So idk if it’s all worth it, he will always win the gemming wars, maybe i should just attack 2x every day to make him frustrated lol

[runic coral]

how does noah get her burst off before being stunned by siren here? am I missing something?

[spare nimbus]

Does bay need to be the one bursting in order to block scarlet wipe

[spare nimbus]

His team has faster cs

[tropic summit]

if enemy team is 11%CS team wide yes

[tropic summit]

deal with that team with

noah biscuit rh helmt jackal

[runic coral]

I somehow doubt that, his cp is kinda low unless he only rolls cs and nothing else

but maybe he does 🤷‍♂️

[shell hazel]

if it's before reset and you don't need your tries to defend then you could, waste their time/gems is always worth it to me 😄

[nimble swan]

Well yeah, I will try and see how it plays out

[shell hazel]

20 level gap isn't too bad. I'm 32 level gap atm, I'll 390 later though may as well keep em on their toes a bit.
I can get to like 397 with crates atm I think... 401 not quite possible yet but at some point it will be

[quick lake]

Yes

[nimble swan]

I would probably try to make it gradual.
I mean i’m thinking if they notice you just jumped more than 5 levels maybe they will just buy a few more levels too. At least I can see the c1 whale in my bracket possibly doing it

[shell hazel]

not sure it matters, I was 30 sync diff a few days ago now it's 32, they went up a level each day last 2 days haha

[leaden canyon]

if i had more rocks I could catch up in cp

[shell hazel]

I could also with the crates but it's not as efficient, I'd like to get into chapter 31 if I can before I open too many just waiting on last mast overload to see how far off I get from chapter 30 boss

alt angle is if I can stay in range to attack then I can just sit on resources for a bit longer, not like I can defend anyway

[nimble swan]

Yeah probably better waiting until you really need it

[swift mango]

[crystal flicker]

Red

Suisei is blue, I'll always blue.

[hollow lagoon]

@shell hazel ur red

also i reached 500 commander level

[quartz rover]

How's this for vesti

[hollow lagoon]

better than whatever i have

ammo is good u can lock and roll rest lel

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/power-rangers-red-ranger-pose-posing-gif-8941922

[hollow lagoon]

i'm now derp tier confusion

i guess i can still reset

[wise horizon]

What’s a good counter to this?

[mystic rain]

blanc mihara biscuit cindy rumani

[glad meteor]

Noah biscuit cindy siren helmt?

[stuck pike]

Lm stun the blanc and biscuit bursts which does nothing for anyone except for biscuit. Any aoe setup with lm beats this easily.

If you want to do it without lm, 2rl rosanna, a slower blanc aoe comp, etc.

[tropic summit]

reroll line 1 and line 2 later on, it's good to have a starting good line 3 as it's easier to reroll at least

get her CS% and atk% then it's a perfect piece

[hollow lagoon]

man when u do behemoth and made it all the way to the end but it still have 1700+ bars of hp left

the sad feels

[digital rivet]

renamii has been rank #1 in my bracket for pretty much the whole time. is he just not collecting his chips?

[keen vapor]

That's right

[digital rivet]

I suppose that's the giga whale privilege when he has 80 syncs on everyone

[keen vapor]

Ig 80 synch is doable for people here

[swift mango]

That mean he would come to don's feedback threat later and complain hat he didn't have enough element code to upgrade skill.

[jolly maple]

was a dolless cored defender that significant for a blanc indom to have prio over a lb0 attacker at p1

[swift mango]

Always check HP in indom team.

[jolly maple]

7xxx over 5xxxx

time to put a doll on centi

[gritty ridge]

Other than cp, would yall make any changes to these teams?

[hollow lagoon]

seems fine? but why not vesti on indom

[gritty ridge]

Run out of batteries then

And im very far away from an invested nero moran

[thin abyss]

I would change Cinderella for Emilia/T Laplace/Any Clip SG
Other than that everything seems fine

[gritty ridge]

Wdym, like cindy specifically?

[thin abyss]

Her burst gen is really low, and the main source of DMG in that composition is Mihara + indom
It's better to reach 2.5RL with any of the replacements I mentioned before

[gritty ridge]

Ah I see. The cindy comp there is slow on purpose to counter 2rl noah actually

It should also counter non double buff scar

I remember eon saying thats the wrong setup for spa slow cindy tho

[thin abyss]

if it's on purpose or if it works then there's no problem

[swift mango]

Arena channel is dead after CA season.

[charred wedge]

This annoying piece of attacks me at 4 am. Thing is we can only fight the position back and forth.

[gritty ridge]

Its your fault, yap more

[swift mango]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-hmm-pepehmm-table-council-gif-16396395487368552941

[charred wedge]

Both of you are certified yappers. Im still silver rank and have joined this nikke dc since August 2024.

Skill issue

[gritty ridge]

I have never yapped a day in my life

[umbral belfry]

pls Ada don't be meta

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Yeah, Jill meta instead.

[umbral belfry]

no meta I gotta save for anni

[glad meteor]

New pfp

[umbral belfry]

when i tell you i would scissor velvet @glad meteor

[gritty ridge]

Is that hime

[umbral belfry]

but in reality she would scissor me✂️

[umbral belfry]

IM DRIVING HOME!!

[glad meteor]

[gritty ridge]

Its been like 5 days

[umbral belfry]

grandma needed to rest

I'll do it first thing when I'm home trust

[gritty ridge]

Grandma gets too much rest

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/hxh-thumbs-gon-gif-25443754

Gon

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

You said that like yesterday

[umbral belfry]

it's a new day

also I went to the movies yday and passed out

[gritty ridge]

Watching bad guys 2 with your grandkids i see

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

Smh im gamgam's least favorite

You forgot me at the gas station last week

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/froge-pet-gif-14091291241450103367

[gritty ridge]

<@&946725432554836008>

[glad meteor]

I press a @mod and all i saw was modernias

[tired root]

hello, how would i deal with this comp? tqvm in advance

[strong hull]

Blood-kun

[glad meteor]

Can you mirror with vesti

[keen vapor]

Vesti Blanc jackal better right?

[glad meteor]

Instead of cindy

Maybe

[tired root]

don't have vesti unfortunately, sadge

[glad meteor]

[keen vapor]

What you have

[tired root]

everyone else PVP related except for Vesti and Emilia

[keen vapor]

SBS Blanc Centi Anis jackal

[glad meteor]

does she have enough dmg though

[keen vapor]

don't know

[glad meteor]

Technically 1 rl slower cindy should win

Noise noah bisc cindy jackal maybe

[keen vapor]

Technically that dies

[glad meteor]

Noise buff and noah blocks rest of nuke. But more of slowet nuke goes through

and cindy full decoy

While there’s should be dead

But cindy takes dmg if linked, maybe rumani better

[placid bloom]

no Biscuit, Blanc SBS/Rapi steamrolls

no need to think too hard

Noah never beats Blanc without Biscuit

unless you CP gapped

[keen vapor]

That's what I did

[keen vapor]

But I don't know the level difference here

[umbral crown]

Nero team would do it just fine

[keen vapor]

Normal people don't invest Nero

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Mogu mogu

[glad meteor]

sbs doesn’t have enough dmg usually in my experience. Need double buffer

[placid bloom]

[glad meteor]

Noise noah dr
Noise max hp buff
SR doll

Ah yeah. And cindy decoy is tanky

Noah defence 🧌

I wonder if people burst 10 noah lol

[placid bloom]

for CP pad maybe

[keen vapor]

So, Rapi better

I'm not used to PVP with her

[keen vapor]

@clear vessel can you put this on your rookie def? Wanna try something

A comparison

[clear vessel]

Yayaya

[clear vessel]

Done

[keen vapor]

Let's see how they do on level deficit

Going to try with Helm rather than anis so I have a chance

SBS battle ends at 4:46 left on the timer

[glad meteor]

Win?

[keen vapor]

Rapi loses on 2RL

[placid bloom]

Rapi needs buffer, you are at 30fps

she only proc skill 2 once every 2s

that's her entire AoE

[keen vapor]

So, in the end I was right

[keen vapor]

Hard to find one that's as fast as Mica

micaaaaaaaaaaa

[placid bloom]

tbh I think even indom RH can clear

[keen vapor]

RH Indom can only be done if Blanc has more attack lines than centi/jackal
And needs to be done without Helm

Doro Indom more factible

[keen vapor]

Then again ☝️

[placid bloom]

that's pretty close, considering you indom at exactly 4s

actually no it's like 3.4s

we can move it to 3.7s with DrakeT and get an extra Atk buff

[keen vapor]

I'm on 60 level diff sir
@clear vessel you can put previous def already

[glad meteor]

Its not consistent.

[keen vapor]

Helm attack damage buff should be better when SBS has big self atk buff

[glad meteor]

I’ve seen it time and again

[placid bloom]

I thought you said we can't use Helm

[keen vapor]

On RH's case

[placid bloom]

if we using Helm then we don't even need Centi

[upper grove]

What's the slow cindy team?
Blanc mihara rumani biscuit cindy?

[glad meteor]

But would be good to see dunastique results,

[glad meteor]

Yeah

[brazen salmon]

is my TU vesti good enough for SP arena

[upper grove]

Thanks, I'll not copy it in SP so the whales there don't get any ideas. Not using vesti in defense for the same reasons

[keen vapor]

I think so

[brazen salmon]

thanks want to focus more on pve

[orchid birch]

hi guys, just starting to get a little more serious into pvp and would love some advice on my team structures for def in SP arena

just playing around with teams right now and am thinknig these 2 atm (ignore the level on rumani haha), but this eats up most of the good units for my 3rd team -- any advice?

(i have most of the meta pvp units except trina and the new TU vesti)

[tropic summit]

would need to see your box to know if you running the best stuff you have

[tropic summit]

either way depending on what you've:

T1 you generally don't run helmT with jackal, unless that's an attack team. The team per se can be fine situationally
T2 if you're noise taunt priority (noise has at least 4% less CS% than noah), you want noise in p1, else you'll get enemy units in p1 and p2 to hit in the middle of your team, causing them to have extra gen
viceversa, if noah taunt priority, that's fine but it will be weak to siren as she can land stun directly on noah, preventing her from being useful

[orchid birch]

have some resources to invest in some of the unleveled units at the bottom as well

[tropic summit]

the obvious thing here is to throw laplaceT and rumani in synchro, both units are good to use

as for the rest, you want to build teams with these

this also easily shows you that some core units are very low on invest compared to others, namely your noise, noah, jackal, scarlet, centi, biscuit and emilia are very low

highly suggest you wishlist trina aswell

[orchid birch]

yea i have trina wishlisted. mostly just want to figure out what my best 3 teams can be, and then will start slowly build them out

[tropic summit]

atm you want

sbs blanc rh noir jackal
naga anchorIM cindy dkw helmT
noah biscuit siren s.anis emilia

this gives you fairly high CP, while keeping a decently fast burst gen for each team (these are mainly defense teams)

you'll want to improve the following units (which I mentioned earlier):

@orchid birch

[orchid birch]

oh wow thanks a lot! this is really helpful

[gritty ridge]

Rail are you a music connoisseur

[tropic summit]

I don't think i am, I mostly listen to game OSTs

[gritty ridge]

Rip, nvrmind then

[tropic summit]

[gritty ridge]

Im trying to make a Playlist with a certain vibe

[orchid birch]

@tropic summit is there anyone i can use in place of trina for now?

[mystic rain]

any clip rl

[swift mango]

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Finally think she looking like Crow with this pic. 🤔

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[swift mango]

To combo with Scarlet you either use Blanc or Trina. Trina also provide burst gen, Blanc needs team to be fast enough so often a jackal team.

[swift mango]

I am normal people

[gritty ridge]

Nuh uh

Normal people aren't red

[swift mango]

I'm normal "arena player" people.

[gritty ridge]

Hmmmm

[orchid birch]

yea was trying to see if i could build the end teams you recommended and find a sub for her since blanc is going to be used in the 3rd team you recommended

[swift mango]

No you mistook me with Rail. The guy who made team for you. He stole my Emi, not me.

[orchid birch]

ah oops sry!

[umbral crown]

[gritty ridge]

You're not red yet

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

that team has trina as core unit, don't bother running it without it, your SBS variation would be better until then

[tropic summit]

and so are you, when are you joining the ♿ club

[glad meteor]

I’m still gold, I’m wondering if hime will reach blue faster

[mystic rain]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-red-role-gojo-red-role-gif-10332570022337826605

[hollow lagoon]

i liked it better when i was silver

[gritty ridge]

I miss the blue

[gritty ridge]

Like a month or 2

[bitter cipher]

@raven plover @keen vapor It finally happened. He finally switched to Besti

[tropic summit]

platinum blue was the best

[gritty ridge]

Yeah

[keen vapor]

Siren it... Wait, this specific comp is immune to siren

[mystic rain]

3RL blanc vesti his ass

[keen vapor]

Try mirror with Rapi

[mystic rain]

like insteada of blanc centi jackal like he has go blanc biscuit jackal or smt

[bitter cipher]

Mirror his but with Rapipi instead of Besti?

[keen vapor]

You won't survive for your bursts

[keen vapor]

Yes

[bitter cipher]

[gritty ridge]

Just use rosa

[mystic rain]

yea biscuit

[bitter cipher]

Uninvested

[keen vapor]

Want to see if MG bullets win

[gritty ridge]

Have you considered forced misindom?

[keen vapor]

How to misindom with jackal P5

[gritty ridge]

Electric dps high ele should drop helm faster than vesti

Iirc

[tropic summit]

think he means siren, but if they're 11%CS that goes out of the window

[lofty hull]

anyone well versed enough in pvp (and willing to explain it) how I beat this person's teams with a ~50 level and ~120k ish team cp deficit?

[gritty ridge]

Nah i was thinking like sanis or sbs to hit other units

[keen vapor]

No need for 11% CS on that team

[gritty ridge]

What are the chances centi is lower defense than the links

[tropic summit]

why? it's natural 2RL with potential to be siren resistant

[umbral crown]

Always green

[tropic summit]

if blanc isn't linked he can at least SG + rosanna

[gritty ridge]

No rosanna invest

[keen vapor]

It doesn't works

You should remember I already tried

[tropic summit]

you tried this?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[tropic summit]

uh interesting

[swift mango]

120k deficit could be not deficit at all depending on your CP. Stat reduction only starts at 15.4% deficit

[keen vapor]

Most likely only thing required is 8% Helm

Unless nikke work is plain wrong

[lofty hull]

uh, my lowest, vs'd their highest i think 459k on mine to 520k on theirs

[gritty ridge]

Would this work?

[mystic rain]

ez his teams r 🚮

[gritty ridge]

Should be enough to kill blanc in 2 volleys no?

[lofty hull]

have you seen mine? lol

[swift mango]

Tiny bit better

[mystic rain]

urs actually make sense

bro hes using smol white, frima rupee

even frima folkwang harran

[swift mango]

459 vs 520 ain't deficited

[lofty hull]

If mine make any sort of sense that's completely on accident by the way; except for the NOAA team that one I got from nikkegg

1st 1 is just my "high cp" team that I made sure had a healer.

[mystic rain]

team 1 u have 2 healers and sbs b3 vs his trash team
team 2 scar trina liter noah
team 3 u have blanc noise cindy also more heals

enemy doesnt even have any decent battery nor heal nor dmg in ALL 3 teams

and yea deficit doesnt apply till 15% dk if u calculated for that

[lofty hull]

I typically lose to high cp teams that use 2B. lol

[mystic rain]

most people uve been fighting r all probably just clicking auto on all 3 teams yhen forget pvp exists so they stopped updating their teams

atp u can just do whatever to beat those even if at deficit as long as ur team actually makes sense for pvp

or jus fight them with raw cp

[neon kelp]

What would be the bis for 3rd team def? Just cp gap with clip sg?

[lofty hull]

Yeah I see that the brackets get shifted around occasionally I had been in like silver to gold because my teams could not beat anyone and then the bracket shifted and I'm like 1 to 200k higher than everyone else in the bracket and they shunted me up to Diamond nine. after that they moved some other high-powered people in and I dropped for a bit and now I'm back in Diamond again. XD

[gritty ridge]

For now yes, you dont have the nikke to build 3 teams if your the friend he was talking about

[neon kelp]

Oh im not just lurking for def teams

[gritty ridge]

Ohh, then no thats not your bis

My phone is dead, but I think pins have been updated to include vesti

[neon kelp]

Any vesti teams that works for it?

Scrambled a team with noise noah vestiTU anis HelmT

[gritty ridge]

Yeah, theres also noise noah vesti flex helmT which i think is 2rl

This with a clip sg or faster is 2rl

[neon kelp]

What cube for mihara? Tempering, vigor or just any high level

[gritty ridge]

If you have cs on vesti(which you should) will be faster

[gritty ridge]

Not tempering or vigor

You want her to die

[neon kelp]

Ah

[tropic summit]

@shell hazel someone is touchin' grass today cuz i haven't seen em typin'

or maybe getting red now has decreased their yapping needs

[digital rivet]

before I send it do y'all think i'm too cp gapped or can I overcome the penalty?

[tropic summit]

multiply enemy team for 0.846 and you find out minimun requirement, you can do it yourself

T1 needs 525k
T2 needs 560k

you're in penalty in both

[digital rivet]

yeah I know i'm in penalty, but their teams are just a bunch of random nikke for the most part

[tropic summit]

20%CP penalty is heavy even for linked units

https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

it's like opponent starts on a buff greater than blanc s3 lvl 10

while T1 could remotely still have a chance, T2 is gonna get punished hard

on the other hand, if you padded both teams, you could reach the requirement

need to make a mix of campaign + pvp core teams

on both teams you're not punished by speed, so you can aim for 4RL

meaning: it's winnable if you tailor your teams

[digital rivet]

my only real stat pads can be alice, cindy, and crown

[tropic summit]

post your box let's see what you could do

[tropic summit]

arrange these 2 teams and let's crosscheck CP, we can try attempt balancing it out

(you're on the left)

[tropic summit]

eh still far off, guess we can run one team in smaller deficit and one team trying to catch up

[digital rivet]

try running it as is then?

[tropic summit]

nope

show this, the above have no chance of surviving

[tropic summit]

still on 20+% deficit

give up, you can't hit this opponent unfortunately

you can give it a shot with the above if you wanna try it anyway, but consider it a likely loss

[digital rivet]

one day I will take #2 down

[glacial kite]

Is there a decent replacement for scarlet? I have everything but her. Was looking at the pinned for team comps and know she's one of the top tiers but haven't lucked on landing her yet.

[tropic summit]

there's, she's called vesti

won't serve the same purpose, but delivers on nuke and DPS, can work on indom

[glacial kite]

Wasn't sure if tvesti was as good. Thanks for the info

[tropic summit]

for reference, what's the team you'll run her in

[quartz rover]

Almost there

[glacial kite]

Was referencing from these teams in pinned and was going to test which one was best

I have jackal mlb and built along with trina which is why I was asking about scarlet replacement

Sadly have everything on the list but her

Just got xanne btw so she's being worked on

[tropic summit]

won't really need xanne in SParena anymore

[glacial kite]

Guess I got her for the lore at least

[tropic summit]

can use her in CA if you qualify although, for SG team

[glacial kite]

Not that high yet to qualify but prepping to be at least better than my random teams I threw together

[tropic summit]

based on this you could consider these indom teams

pick any that you can run based on your flex p5 units

flex p5 can also be a clip SG burst gen tier (drake, bsoda, noir etc)

[glacial kite]

Okay awesome. Thank you and I'll work on them now

I wish they'd rerun emilia for more dupes

[tired root]

i'm actually ahead by 21 levels so thats not an issue, apologies for the late reply

[tired root]

i will try this tqvm

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

I still wonder why i did pull her

My sg has polit and vipert

My sp covered by noah biscuit, blanc and nero

[vapid lake]

See

Told u its better if xanne dont rerun

[umbral crown]

👀

[vapid lake]

didnt believe me

[umbral crown]

Other people use her with sgs

And won because of her

And the trinaless people can use her meanwhile

[vapid lake]

If nobody has her then its fair game

Keep it that way

Save gems

[umbral crown]

New brackets gonna enjoy her

[crystal flicker]

sgs
se-

[umbral crown]

[tired root]

lost lol, SBS didn't have enough DPS to handle Cindy 1 v 1 after the rest have died and indom ran out.

[keen vapor]

Now I'm worried Malogro has Noise 1/1/1

[keen vapor]

Six pistols ?

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Why is it right

@clear vessel what's your Noise investment

[keen vapor]

Btw, you have overloaded Anis right

[wanton island]

is anne miracle fairy worth mlbing?

[umbral crown]

well, at this point im not sure

[wanton island]

i know she is good in pvp, just didnt know if she was utility or not

since she is b2

[gaunt pulsar]

she is pretty much CA only

[wanton island]

im always in ca

ive just yet to see her

[umbral crown]

B2 is a competitive spot but in CA she is with SGs

[wanton island]

k so sg comp

[umbral crown]

The other spotd are already covered

[wanton island]

would a good sg comp be sAnis, sDoro and anne mf?

[umbral crown]

Clip SGs + Anne +Rosanna

Like Bunny Soda/DrakeT/X.Anne/Rosanna/Noir for example

[wanton island]

my noir and rosanna are trash

[umbral crown]

[wanton island]

even drakt is trash lol

[umbral crown]

Your sgs need some love

[wanton island]

youre not wrong. ive been chasing stellar blade, sanis, and midhara lately

[umbral crown]

[wanton island]

thats how much love drake gets ahhaha

[umbral crown]

Waos

[gaunt pulsar]

for being at max you definitely could do better

[clear vessel]

Basic 4/4/4 no OLs

[wanton island]

tbh drake is kinda easy to get dupes

[clear vessel]

R0 doll

[keen vapor]

:deadge:

[clear vessel]

You KNOW my PvP invests are near nil

[wanton island]

good. unless you whale ca, just do campaign

[keen vapor]

At least you get 3% in raids

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Not like me

[clear vessel]

Surely this mother whale you must be close

[wanton island]

so whats the word on xAnne? not worth mlb?

(more love to drake and roseanna lol)

ill just leave her as utility. seems vesti is getting more attention

[keen vapor]

9.7b
Won't do survive last day stretch

[keen vapor]

Do you have 300 pulls to spare?

[wanton island]

i dont need 300 pulls

[lunar pawn]

new team already working, though this ledpipe guy tends to gem for no apparent reason, he's usually diamond 1 @tropic summit

[keen vapor]

Even worse idea

Think about it, 1 mileage and a half of worth, or tons of tickets gone

[wanton island]

ive been known to get lucky

[keen vapor]

Just no

[wanton island]

still doesnt answer my question. is fairy worth mlb?

[gaunt pulsar]

anne is 2% like any normal unit, but what's the point of getting her copies, her role is to give the buff and maybe revive and that's all, it's not like she needs extra stats to work, she aint dps

[wanton island]

i get your f2p strat to pull 1% with tickets. i dont speak minnow

[wanton island]

i agree with you, but i wanted to make sure i didnt miss a catch

[shell hazel]

had some friends over for board games and beer lol

[raven plover]

[clear vessel]

I'm not so sure. I will leave my victory lap for when I see that frame in your profile however.

[gritty ridge]

She doesnt tank or dps, no.

[mystic rain]

unless we get treasure for limited units i dont think theres any point in getting dupes for any unit

unless ur a whale

[gritty ridge]

Only mlb anne if you want her burst screen

[wanton island]

thanks for the confirmation

i had already mlb'd sanis and shelm so didnt know if i needed to go the distance with xanne

hard to keep up this year

[gritty ridge]

S.helm didnt need it either

Her only use is skill 2

[wanton island]

saw her use in the solo raid museum a lot

[mystic rain]

only for snow white teams

aand if ur iron bro

and even then getting ur only getting like what 6% more personal dps on shelm?

[wanton island]

future project

[mystic rain]

well its ur gems ig

[wanton island]

the problem i got is waiting a year for rerelease

gems aint really the issue

[mystic rain]

i mean it doesnt really matter for supports in general if they get dupes or not

[fast jetty]

how do i deal with this 2RL noah vesti with siren stun?
if scarlet: 2RL noah is too fast to catch me
if blanc vesti: gonna get stunned at pos1

[mystic rain]

unless its like siren or mmast

but again its ur gems and ur account if u want more dupes then go ahead

[mystic rain]

their noah dodging ur stun?

[fast jetty]

soda stun? my soda is so low cp dont think i can make it work in this team
do you suggest just run siren scarlet towards it?

[tropic summit]

any indom on 2RL with jackal in p1 should be able to wipe that

[mystic rain]

i mean ur siren stun

[tropic summit]

jackal vestiTU helmt blanc centi
jackal SBS helmt blanc centi

[mystic rain]

is enemy noah dodging ur siren stun

[fast jetty]

i have no idea what that was. their noah is pos2?

[wanton island]

siren is p1 though?

[tropic summit]

if noah is not in p1 and the only taunter, you can run siren in p1 or p2 to get her stunned anyway, assuming enemy isn't natural 2RL with 11%CS teamwide

[mystic rain]

no cs 2RL noah will still get stunned as long as siren can hit noah

[wanton island]

wait... isnt siren always p1?

[mystic rain]

depends

[wanton island]

ive never seen siren target anyone except p1

[mystic rain]

if noah is p5 and ur siren p5 ur siren wont hit their noah

[wanton island]

maybe moran taunt?

[mystic rain]

cuz shes not getting taunted

[crystal flicker]

I've said this and I'll say it again, if you need stunner then you need Soda.

[mystic rain]

only champs players build soda

[keen vapor]

Victory lap ?

[clear vessel]

"I told you so, you got 3% this time"

[crystal flicker]

Soda is your solution for every taunter

[fast jetty]

can i run trina for cp gap? 740k vs 869k (need 744k to hit 85.7%)
got destroyed

after b2 casted, my pos1-3 died 💀
possibly because of CP gap?

[mystic rain]

not exactly at deficit just yet

[keen vapor]

Well, maybe MW itself is discouraging

[fast jetty]

yeah it is less than 85.7% / 14.3%

idk how that calculator work hm, does it work the same in PVE and PVP?

[mystic rain]

deficit in pvp only applies after 15.4%

ur still below that but close but ur ass still got demolished

[digital rivet]

<@&946725432554836008>

[crystal flicker]

How ya'll mods still hasn't use autoban for spam

[mystic rain]

maybe u can try jackal noah biscuit vesti instead

if ur vesti is built she can kill noah no biscuit

[gaunt pulsar]

doesn't it make job for Vesti easier when they placed like that? she hits 3 and all 3 share dmg so they share more hits than they should? i would imagine that blanc should survive if she is somewhere there instead

[mystic rain]

enemy has no biscuit and siren is p4 so shes not getting taunted/wont hit p2

[mystic rain]

no blanc p1-3 would die vs vesti with no biscuit

[keen vapor]

My Vesti with 3 ele is ready

[urban mulch]

how do i beat the jackal vesti maiden blanc emi comp

[umbral crown]

The hero

[tropic summit]

the amount of ppl getting screwed over by vesti indom is getting pretty high

rosanna, slow cindy and mirror indom are gonna stonk

[glad meteor]

Rosanna is iffy kinda. Maiden can kill remaining team

[urban mulch]

is fast helm a possibility

[keen vapor]

Weird, my local contender didn't seem to be affected

[fast jetty]

like this? can give a try..

[fast jetty]

well looks like i shall copy their comp as my defense instead, not working for me.

[fast jetty]

for someone else, without cp gap or siren, blanc vesti can beat noah vesti

[mystic rain]

ngl tho thats a huge deficit ur fighting into for a mere 13 sync level diff

damn

their vesti took zero dmg from ur vesti lol

[urban mulch]

makes sense, its a breakpoint

and they have better built dolls by a pretty significant margin

[mystic rain]

bruh from my experience, even a single breakpoint usually isnt enough to put me over 15% deficit

[bitter cipher]

[mystic rain]

but that might just be investment diff in my bracket so its whatev

[urban mulch]

100% investment diff, his opponent looks pretty pvp focused and he's got decent amt of dupes

[umbral crown]

It reminds me like when Blanc/Emilia/Red Hood/Biscuit /Jackal or Centi was a thing

[quick lake]

Good ol’ times

[swift mango]

I really wished anyone in my bracket would use Vesti for Rookie.

[tropic summit]

information warfare, using it only for attack teams and keeping it hidden from defense to avoid spreading it

although they only need to watch CA to learn of it

[umbral crown]

I use it on sp and rookie

[digital rivet]

🙂

[umbral crown]

But been 2 weeks sinve anyone tried in sp

The action did not last long

[digital rivet]

what's the sync diff between you and 1

[umbral crown]

Just 107 levels

[digital rivet]

[crystal flicker]

Rosy gonna be whalin someday

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/someday-not-tomorrow-not-today-maybe-maybe-not-today-gif-2079436630128123994

Once i get in range again things gonna be funny again

I just need 40-50 levels less than him

[quick lake]

I hope I get in range to my bracket’s whale

Still getting cp-gapped

[umbral crown]

I really been thinking to start whaling levels since the rest is covered already, dolls, skills and some cores

Investment wise im fine

I just need levels

Could probably do it fine if i was 481 right now

[quick lake]

[glad meteor]

Just

https://tenor.com/view/froge-pet-gif-14091291241450103367

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

He has not updated the teams since these were the ones that stopped me months ago when i was not able to keep fighting in deficit

And when the others in the bracket were in range against him they did not even try

And yet i had some moments where even i was gapped like 50-60 levels i was able to beat him

[coarse lake]

Max doll Rosa but no idea how she works

[umbral crown]

Imagine i was the only one fighting him , he just did a weird cook but the cp was helping him

My nero team but helm bursting was winnimg against his team 3 just fine

Nuking the link was easy

[cunning crown]

[umbral crown]

Back then was doing some weird cooks, in this video i sacced scarlet as the unit to skip a team

[umbral crown]

Thats why an active bracket is needed so it makes you get creative to cook teams to win

[swift mango]

I use vesti in rookie

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Like never.

[umbral crown]

a man can always dream

[swift mango]

well, if you wanted to buy level star it now.
gem claim 50+70.
Buy monthly pack for gem and core dust.

[keen vapor]

@coarse lake you owe me a Pilgrim, we bet on this and you did lose
-# This claim is false

At least I can win CA this time

[swift mango]

The cheap ways to whale for level are all time gated.*

[keen vapor]

C'mon Eon, at least give me suggestions for my CA teams

Tbf she's also best Ein companion but if you have to pick one, Ada wins

[swift mango]

Ein and Vesti treasure.

[keen vapor]

Clip?!

[umbral crown]

ada looks interesting for pvp

here we gonna give her miranda

[keen vapor]

She doesn't has explosion radius thing expanded one like Emi/Vesti

To affect full enemy team

[gritty ridge]

If shes clip shes gonna go crazy as offburst tho

[coarse lake]

[keen vapor]

Ig we're MLBing

@clear vessel @violet spoke

[coarse lake]

what did I bet

[keen vapor]

Coaching

[swift mango]

That slow hit of her doesn't have increased range, so useless as main burst 3. Unless she could hit all 5 with her normal range. But that would be OP as hell.

[keen vapor]

C'mon, you must help me increase my odds

[umbral crown]

but also she buff true damage for nikkes who already bursted

[coarse lake]

imagine skipping absolute, not me

[umbral crown]

so not gonna buff vesti or Ein in pvp

[keen vapor]

Imagine not getting Euhnwa and Emma from wishlist

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

I need to know what I bet with echo

[keen vapor]

She still useful if clip, good buffer without being part of burst chain

[coarse lake]

oh I didn't bet anything

[keen vapor]

Help me

[coarse lake]

thank goodness, ok I'll coach you in CA

[swift mango]

She doesn't need to be clip to be useful but sure.

[gritty ridge]

If shes clip i may whale for dupes on her. If shes not clip im just pulling 1 copy

[coarse lake]

I expect sbs-tier gen

almost guarantee replaces xmaiden at the very least

well.... eh her conditional buff is eh

[gritty ridge]

Her skill 2 seems nice

[keen vapor]

Dam

[gritty ridge]

Extra p1/2 pressure

[swift mango]

what conditional?

[coarse lake]

gotta burst

meaning cindy has close to half uptime on that compared to xmaiden/sanis

[swift mango]

No she is not, Xmaiden is ele buffer. Ele is king in boss raid.

[coarse lake]

well yeah I'm talking neutral

bit doubtful she can save absolute, need high personal dmg

but if she does, she can save absolute sure

[swift mango]

Neutral my Cindy+Trina+Scarlet already rock it. I don't need her.
Just bring her to buff the on ele teams instead.

[lunar pawn]

you won't use absolute outside fire weak, and maybe not even then

[coarse lake]

iron? shelm cdr, wind? dolla cdr

I used absolute this raid (only 1.9bil tho)

stronk lapt

ada for elec, fire obviously

[coarse lake]

wind and water are the only hard benches

[oblique ridge]

Thunder Emilia is here to rock our world

[leaden canyon]

well no radius increase

so shouldn't be able to hit whole team

[swift mango]

because we don't have dps for those elements that buffer all the more important.
Ada with 60% atk buff would probably make it to raid on every element.

[gritty ridge]

Chat hear me out

[oblique ridge]

True. But on the other hand. TU Vesti will get the buffs promised by Ada Wong

[gritty ridge]

Doro b1 ada b3

[oblique ridge]

Like TU Vesti wasn't on a rampage hard enough

[coarse lake]

from vid she's just standard mag rl

[oblique ridge]

[swift mango]

she could hit 3.

[coarse lake]

which for a b3 dps, honestly better than expected, low bar

[coarse lake]

the visuals seem just like regular mag rl visuals (for splash) I doubt it

no extra proc, so yeah standard mag rl

[oblique ridge]

Well. Electric. If she's good PvE damage, it's perhaps a for once a honest to goodness good Electric dps that isn't weird.

But too bad if ruined for PvP

[swift mango]

Well, she doesnt need extra proc, just hit 3 already x1.5 normal burst gen.

[keen vapor]

Sad

[coarse lake]

that lifesteal could be interesting

[oblique ridge]

The grenades basically make up for her being a plain RL shooter when outside of her burst's Full Burst

[lunar pawn]

wasn't jill gonna be a RL too

[coarse lake]

no she's ar, pistol

[lunar pawn]

ah rip

[swift mango]

in before pistol be MG.

or SG like a certain double SG.

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

hmm her s2 could hit several targets sure

[coarse lake]

they already confirmed ar in vid unless internkun strikes again

[swift mango]

[coarse lake]

if ada s2 explosion range is good, indom ada should be a monster

420% true dmg proc every second, plus she's lifestealing, so she ends indom at high hp

[swift mango]

should be same as her normal atk range

[coarse lake]

if it's just 2 targets splash, then it's... eh

if mag rl gen, that's still above avg for pvp dps

better xmaiden ig

but lower gen

[swift mango]

Xmaid has good dmg before burst. Ada doesn't

[coarse lake]

yeah, but better in indom

or in stall, better as bursting b3

still gonna be hard to fit into comps

[swift mango]

indom you dont indom her. Unless you mean using her as main burst 3, then xmaiden burst still superior.

[coarse lake]

her burst is weak

less than half the multi of maxwell

still weaker than maxwell if you include both of their s1 buffs as raw multi (no dilution)

[swift mango]

The problem with full burst buff in indom team is that they need to survive still FB in the first place. Like Miranda, HelmT buffing Emi, if they got wiped by helmT shotting links for example Emi won't get the full burst buff.

[coarse lake]

but higher gen, maybe still enough for doro meme nuke

this seems doable

xmaiden there to buff ada instead

[keen vapor]

At least Ada has higher buff/damage off burst

[coarse lake]

ada shouldn't even be able to bypass noah biscuit with 1 shotting noah before second invuln, bc her s2 bombs gonna trigger it anyway, much harder to time

[swift mango]

Xmaiden I won't count her as even half a buffer in arena. Her buff basically non existent.

[coarse lake]

I don't think ada needs much buffing tbh

420% per sec even to 2 targets is pretty good

[keen vapor]

I thought Maiden wasn't buffing on first rotation

[coarse lake]

it's 2 vesti shots, technically higher since self buffs

[swift mango]

Ada is a buffer, plan a simple. Unless she had 5/5 range, using her as main b3 basically using RH.
She doesn't even fast nuke to shot link like Xmaid and HelmT.

[coarse lake]

it should be 2 shotting units I think

[keen vapor]

Slow anis

[lunar pawn]

I'm just thinking whether she'll be good for rookie, jackal tvesti blanc ada thelm

[coarse lake]

indom vesti doesn't need buff

[lunar pawn]

I need the buff when fighting rh b1 + thelm + cindy

[swift mango]

She does, against something like Moran+HelmT team. She need buff to walk over HelmT lifesteal

[rich ledge]

previously cast burst their burst skill refers to the previous burst or the current burst?

[coarse lake]

indom vesti can lose to lifestealing helmt yes due to fire adv

[rich ledge]

if it refers to previous burst round it wont come into effect in the 1st burst

[coarse lake]

but just make your vesti stronger

[lunar pawn]

helm dies, cindy surviving is the issue

[swift mango]

yes, eating more level to synch gap them. and core her up.
but why not just use rh then?

[coarse lake]

it's one reason why I don't like indom vesti in the first place, stall is much better

no buffer vesti, no chance they live through it

[lunar pawn]

taking into account existing similar wordings ingame, it'll trigger for every b3 that used their burst, whether it was the one used just then, or 2min ago

[keen vapor]

You saw my match huh?

[coarse lake]

xmaiden buffs first burst

[rich ledge]

so for the 2nd time it burst it will trigger for both of the b3s that has cast their burst before? thats OP, i thought it is only active for 1 b3 at a time

[coarse lake]

at b1, mp becomes 1

[placid bloom]

isn't it the same wording as Crown? It only buffs the current rotation

[swift mango]

I did showed my vesti losing to my whale Moran+helm weeks ago.

[coarse lake]

at fb, mp replenishes to 2

[keen vapor]

Affects self

[keen vapor]

Ok, so not above 1

But 1 or more

[lunar pawn]

[coarse lake]

wait lemme double check

[rich ledge]

not sure if previous or current rotation, if previous then the buff is useless in pvp

[coarse lake]

yeah buffs first burst

[keen vapor]

Is same wording as crown
Is current

[rich ledge]

oo cool and it comes with healing as well

for blanc indom mirror the healing can make you win?

[lunar pawn]

if biscuit is ada, then might not be good enough for rookie

[keen vapor]

In theory

[lunar pawn]

depends on matchup ig

[coarse lake]

you do protect yourself from rosa snipe

so honestly not a bad comp for rookie

[covert lintel]

Wha
Ada is stronger than emi

[keen vapor]

No

[coarse lake]

[lunar pawn]

but if you can secure 2RL then gg, thelm teams will die

[keen vapor]

Emi expands her explosion range

[vapid lake]

[keen vapor]

Also seems like mag RL

[coarse lake]

need ppl to datamine her base range, but I'm fairly sure it's just standard mag

[lunar pawn]

is jackal still getting double feed?

[fathom rock]

Nah

[covert lintel]

But her dmg is true dmg

[spiral onyx]

(1500% + 250%) x 63.1% x 200%

[iron jungle]

Hi guys, could I please get some help updating my teams?

[keen vapor]

Good for raids and Mirror Container

[lunar pawn]

yea I wanna see her actual gen

[coarse lake]

oh wait didn't see that her burst also self buffs

that does put her a bit higher than maxwell in dmg, but she relies more on buffs, so once diluted prob similar dmg

[spiral onyx]

2200% dmg.... Pretty good if it hits more than 1 target

[keen vapor]

Yes, 100% attack
Perfect for Mirror

[coarse lake]

I'm just expecting 2 targets

maybe s2 hits 3

[rich ledge]

but the burst is delayed, against same RL speed will lose?

she needs quite some time to launch her attack

[dim sapphire]

shes probably good for nero moran comp replacing laplace/maiden am i right?

[keen vapor]

The burst will bypass Noah

[coarse lake]

no

well....

[keen vapor]

We don't know gen

[spiral onyx]

I think she will just be a worse Emilia but we shall see

[coarse lake]

with her s2, actually maybe? if it lets you kill opposing key units during first rota

but if her s2 can't land a kill on nero, then she still loses to xmaiden in mirror

[keen vapor]

But good for Mirror || Container||

[coarse lake]

stop procrastinating and beat mirror already

[lunar pawn]

if she's better than mag rl, that should be enough to boost my dream team to 2RL

[keen vapor]

When Ada comes to the game

[coarse lake]

for her to be better than mag she'll need to have emi lvl base range

[covert lintel]

Burst gen is lower than emi cause no buff in skill

[keen vapor]

Will hyper invest her

@fathom rock do it as well

[coarse lake]

don't expect anything better than mag

[rich ledge]

who is mag?

[lunar pawn]

[spiral onyx]

Pretty much her optimal usage will be on || deez nuts ||

[keen vapor]

Magazine
Magazine RL

The type that doesn't generates as much energy to burst
Examples are noise, Tia, biscuit....

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[coarse lake]

oh I'll put her to work on there for sure

[rich ledge]

oo haha just normal RL

[coarse lake]

ada being elec makes me... scared

chance of jill being elec is no longer borderline 0

that must mean they balanced her with trina in mind right? aka trash base kit

[rich ledge]

so far they have been releasing all same element in a patch

[covert lintel]

And ada can act as vesti buffer

[vapid lake]

Well usually collab is 1 mid 1 good unit right? If ada is the good one then jill is the mid one

I don't like the implication that jill can steal trina away from scar, it's so bm

[covert lintel]

I'm sure no one is stopping vesti anymore

[coarse lake]

jill won't be used in pvp anyway without insane kit

[keen vapor]

..... wait what

[vapid lake]

Jill is AR

[keen vapor]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[coarse lake]

mirandat ada becomes viable now ig

her own separate elec comp

[covert lintel]

Pilgrim treasure get stolen

[keen vapor]

I can't reset Miranda either ?

[vapid lake]

Exactly its so bm

[coarse lake]

could even throw ada into other mirandat comps just to fix atk issues

well ig it depends whether ada s1 triggers before miranda s2 or not

still takes helmt slot tho, so no heals

[keen vapor]

But crit is crit right

[coarse lake]

well you want ada s1 to give atk before the crit gets allocated

[keen vapor]

But is fine cuz Ada heals

[coarse lake]

miranda b2cdr mihara helmt ada can do that ig

ada technically the buffer, and also helps for bricked ppl that have helmt higher atk than mihara

assuming ada s1 is earlier anyway

[keen vapor]

Ah, I'm getting it now

[coarse lake]

too smol

and your b1 b2 still dedge

[keen vapor]

[lunar pawn]

wait, how much feed does cindy give jackal in 2RL?

[keen vapor]

Nikke deck says 0

[coarse lake]

a few shots worth

more than regular rl assuming single target feed

[keen vapor]

Alone is 0

[lunar pawn]

trying to figure out how much feed she gets against noah helm cindy RH jackal

[keen vapor]

Team feed is 7.1%

[lunar pawn]

not bad

wait, isn't that the standard for 5 RL/SR team

[jolly maple]

can this cook

[keen vapor]

A good standard

[lunar pawn]

hopium ada will be better than mag rl ngl

[keen vapor]

If Vesti linked yes

But will feed

[jolly maple]

nvm it's helmt and draket linked

[keen vapor]

Thought so

I personally get sure those 2 don't get attack lines

[keen vapor]

So, penguin, will you be getting Ada and hyper invest her for Mirror ?

[vapid lake]

No silly gotta save 6000/3000 books for triple 1% anni

[keen vapor]

Right, that's the time where normal campaign will get us 102 anyways

[keen vapor]

But SU won't powercreep Ein twice in a row, actually Ein Ada should be lowest clear

[umbral crown]

[vapid lake]

Shut it u

[keen vapor]

Should

[placid bloom]

wym, you can just crack slipper with Cinderella with Ada buff

[umbral crown]

lowest clear.....

[placid bloom]

Ada is caster Atk

so her buff gonna be fat

[keen vapor]

MLB worthy or not

[placid bloom]

Idk, are you rich

poor people like me 1 copy and dip

[vapid lake]

I'm also not buying into the pvp bait

Look what happened to wind rei

[keen vapor]

C'mon, be baited

Buffs are big

[swift mango]

my vesti 4 atk line, she always linked.

[vapid lake]

https://tenor.com/view/idoly-pride-anime-girl-dancing-anime-ichinose-rei-gif-24903434

[keen vapor]

My Vesti no attack line no dupes

[quick lake]

do we know if clip

havent seen the vids

[swift mango]

[placid bloom]

2s reload speed = mag

[keen vapor]

She looks like mag

[coarse lake]

apparently ada personal dmg is whatever

how about you build your hyper cindy and just beat mirror already

[keen vapor]

Oh, that too

Clip has silly recharge time

[swift mango]

why beat mirror just to be stuck as behemoth anyway.

[keen vapor]

Cindy helm maid Mast failed

[vapid lake]

Echo can get 102 cd before january new chapter if he beats mc that's a very good reason to push

[coarse lake]

true

true dmg gimmick dps ain't saving you against behe

although once 3rd anni story drops, you should hit the jump without getting past behe

I think

[vapid lake]

Yes

[coarse lake]

what sync

[vapid lake]

That is exactly why echo stalling at mc now is 🧱

U better be past mc by anni u silly goose

[swift mango]

why beat behemoth just to be stick at Gluttony anyway.

[radiant storm]

Gonna be sync 620+ at that point then clear 41/42 Hardmode

[vapid lake]

The 102 cd jump is all that matters who cares if stuck at behemoth immediately after

[coarse lake]

bruh echo's still 471 sync wtf

[swift mango]

what's 102 jump? Beat Mirror only make you 91

[coarse lake]

should be close to 500 sync if you open boxes assuming you didn't fall behind

get to 501 then go beat mc

[vapid lake]

2 new chapter releaes on anni and the goalpost for 102cd will be moved forward by 2 chapteres

[radiant storm]

Yeah, sync 521 or 541 on Behemoth

[swift mango]

doesn't make it 102 at all.

[keen vapor]

The other F2P guy in my bracket 51X synch

[coarse lake]

so why aren't you

[keen vapor]

He doesn't knows

[radiant storm]

The Max is 105.5 right?

[swift mango]

what?

[keen vapor]

he opened

But he isn't pushing MC

[quick lake]

Yes

[coarse lake]

you should be able to beat mc at 501 with hyper

[quick lake]

102 is huge. Should get there asap

[coarse lake]

I killed mc before it even shielded up at 481

at 501 you should be able to break slippers

[swift mango]

how you get to 102? asap?

[keen vapor]

If I open that defeats the purpose of using core dust at the 102 jump

[quick lake]

Mald or swipe

[radiant storm]

Hardmode

[swift mango]

you get to 92 after getting to behemoth.
2 more normal map and 94.
There is no 102 in sight.

[coarse lake]

you're not gonna hit 102 anytime soon

[radiant storm]

Push hardmode

[quick lake]

Their sync isnt that high yet to clear

Probably when new chapters ig

[coarse lake]

? 2 maps for 10 fights?

[vapid lake]

I'm actually quite hopeful i will win mc by anni

i should be like lv 470 by then naturally

[umbral crown]

[vapid lake]

I'm gonna be the first to claim 102 cd in my bracket, i can open all the boxes in peace

[swift mango]

what's 10 fights?

[keen vapor]

Ada will help me to defeat MC before 500 synch

[umbral crown]

Whats your sync peng

[coarse lake]

oh you were talking in terms of core dust per hr nvm

[vapid lake]

Right now? 456

[umbral crown]

Oh nice

[vapid lake]

5 more level to possibly being able to damage MC, then couple more levels to beat it

[radiant storm]

Need more Story stage

[swift mango]

I would like to see you clear hard 40 at synch 461.

[keen vapor]

Soon™

Also soon side story ™

[swift mango]

I would like to see you do that start in march 2024.

[coarse lake]

519 to 533 is 70 fights

92 to 102

[lunar pawn]

fellow hardstuck at 1079f

[coarse lake]

35+ fights per map is very standard these days

[radiant storm]

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