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high cs cindy comp but low doll invest + questionable team comps? eh idk
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking. I’m still building Vesti but will try soon
Supplementary RL speeds and feed data. Does not include charge speed OLs or cubes.
Top row is the Defending side, aka R! Bottom row is the Attacking side, aka L!
as of today? some bugs got solved with jackal etc today
Exactly, I always won up until today
Might be the patch
might be your double jackal bug feeding you to burst sooner
Oh, L's R1 can be 2RL... yikes
Yeah that will be it, I didn’t see what happened at the start only that Noise and Siren had low hp after burst
rosanna or s.anis or slow cindy might do it here
or just fix your speed and scar-jack this
How do i beat this? Tried noah sbs, noah cindy, scarlet, none of it works yet
noah biscuit rh helmt centi, assuming their noah is siren resistant and yours is
Thx. I will try slow cindy first
if your noah isn't siren resistant then you need a different approach
without my notebook this mode is unplayable 😭
the most important info tho, is their noah siren resistant via CS% or not?
My noah is 20% cs but rest of team isnt
Oh 🫠I forgot I was tunning mine to do so
Meaning I can noah P1
uh then you're not siren resistant
I'll just cheer Keripo 
do you've the new vesti built?
although considering the jackal nerf you can 2RL scar-trina that
it's a 3RL on 69%
Wait there is a jackal nerf?
rather than nerf one should call it probably fixed
not nerf, she just performs like she should
jackal had double procc for 1 month
I tried my 2rl scar trina siren comp and it didnt work

because you're no longer 2RL probably
Btw @shell hazel who do you think will win our finals?
Would be a shame this new guy came here and won first occasion. I think Corleone will win
he mentioned siren
this? you're on the left
assumes scarlet is siren resistant
(ammo count)
My scar has 33 ammo so
unlucky 
then just deny noah and nuke em
I dont think my scar is siren resist
I used to be able to run pos1 linked siren to break siren comp but not today
33 gets stunned
Yeah j need to have my recording and replay and note taker for this mode… dont have it now
i thought u were gonna win clearly. why are people voting against u? @lusty gull
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higher commander level 
I run siren -scar-centi-helm-jackal but somehow cannot deny their noah
They prob resistence
ok then you gotta play around that
it is just whale status
This guy in local can always come up with some comp that is not used in this channel to beat me
play with DPS lineup
maybe because cores, cp and lvl
noise has more CS% than your noah?
Dps means low burst high sustain? Sbs/anis?
you need to run noise taunt priority
No noah has 20%cs noise has 10%
I can maybe run noise-noah-s anis-helm-rumani/jackal
This was popular in my local arena months ago
Should i remove the ammo line?
hmm s.anis in this case would be hitting their siren which hits link, bypassing their biscuit and main tanks
burst lvl 9, no ammo OL, resil
thinking of either of these 2
at least if he wins I lost to a champ 
@swift mango i know one of them got you
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@umbral crown another chinnit finals, why aren't you there 
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As long as your team is 108% 2RL or faster your Noah will bypass Siren stun

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Hello there
That’s how I see it too 

I tired to post a Siren gif and it turned out as a link i was so embarassed i downgraded my pink role
Can his team win against fahren's nero moran?
@raven plover
Question! Is WAnne just a burst gen or can you use her as b2 unit?
she is a decent B2 with a revive and a big Atk buff. Her burst gen is just average
what if we're 4/4? 
xanne is actually meant to be used for her B2, although it's helpful that she does not feed
revive + atk buff is a decent kit to have
although limited to attacker units

guessing xanne is a relatively light build of 4/4/4 and some OL/basic doll to start with?
I got both sanis and anne so i am thinking to remake my 3d team, but i always see ppl pair bisquit with blanc and my bisq is occupied with noah/cindi 
need expert's opinions 
Her burst gen is bad. At least she doesn't feed to jackal scarlet
for sparena you don't rly need xanne
2RL noah
2RL scar
2.5RL stall/indom
you can although run xanne with scarlet if you lack proper B2
as for s.anis you're best running her indommed or behind a stall (noah, bay, moran etc)
mine is just overkill with rls and i still no clue hwo to balance out (especially when im vs siren as Scarlet) Bay in progress with OL but less prio becase i got sanis..
Sometimes i burst as scarlet vs siren sometimes im not
for starters, you don't need to burst with noise in that scarlet team
fix it into jackal scarlet trina centi flex
I kept her because she has 3 lines with Chargespeed 
you wanna burst with noise you can also noise jackal scarlet trina centi
that prevents opponent from disabling scarlet in p1 if they wanted to run siren
but wouldnt scalet lose her buffs if position away from not being first?
first elec rifle unit from the left
@keen vapor just moved check to c5
you also best consider a different T2, it's looking kinda vulnerable
and opponents will likely skip T1
T2 is my (i made from leftovers)
Dont know who can dps here
(still no moran, rosanna is not OLed and synced)
you didn't get the new vesti either?
150 rolls 😭

post your full box ordered by strength lemme c the full picture of what you could run
i think you'll want to run 2 teams on 2RL and one on 3RL regardless
i still have tickets but also saved 40+ standard tickets so I prepared my wishlist
any battery with 11 or 18 CS% btw?
gud
could give these a shot
you'd be running 2 anti nukes and 1 scarlet + stun pressure
the dream would be for the 3rd team to run 2.5RL but it will do
cindi is currently my strongest unit, Should I put her somewhere?
My Cindy will burst before their Noise, not a worry
Even if they had 6% charge speed and Quantum on every unit, at best their Noise will burst before my Cindy. For which it then becomes a stat check
My Cindy team is crazy fast, as you can see
Just realised that Bay has no OL 💀
you'd need to swap around noah and bay then she can fit with helmt in T1
would turn into this
no OL bay at p1 
there's a biscuit tho
doesn't her burst need cover though?
also treasure on phase 2
Pig or jwoz @umbral belfry
I got her only recently (treasure)
was currently trying to OL TTove
or does her treasure remove the need for her to have cover intact?
Her treasure just rebuild her cover or something
treasure made her viable in p1 and p2
T3 is probably weakest atm by combat power, if I will OL at least 2 Bay items i'll stabilize it
I mean pig beat hime and the beater of cup 
oh nice it adds it again so it should catch a nuke
that's the reasoning ye
i have so many units to OL and so little gear to use for lvl 
yeah I have same issue - then so little rocks to fix rolls with :S
I've bumped s.anis and xanne to 4/4/4 skills but can't do anything with the dolls, think no doll xanne would be usable in CA though
I had queue for Raven, then finish Naga and Liter, Sanis items then Anchor, Bay and slowly do the Raid Snow White funny team
But Shiftup pops cool units so hard that the queue GETS LONGER
yeah I have a long queue and a bunch of pve units I want to do at some point
thankfully Sora was a skip 
Now I wait for Vesti in normal banner and roll 40+ tickets and get more later
I'm saving my ordinary tickets for anni at this point lol
may as well give myself the best chance at catching missing units
I won't save till mmast or trina drop
oh you missing those?
Yes
I have nothing that pressing to get, anything I do get I can't build anyway lol
even s.anis who I know has some application in places, I don't have enough to max her out, vesti took all my materials lately (but worth it)
can go either way but I say 
what is this 280 pulls no SSR?
Sanis
NA account? 
Is it 0 SSR or 0 S.Anis?
seasonal modifiers getting patched out and its already working

im still p[issed they fixed the bugs in the middle of champs
and now we still cant watch replays
What a war you fought. 
290? it took me 20 free tickets to get helm and xanne
i even pinged blood with that to just flex in his face
wasn't it 2 xannes?
the one f*ing time RNG actually does the opposite and blesses me 
take the win and run away bravely 🙂
Run away bravely is such a good sentence lmao
Thanks
So you're confident you'll win this matchup and take the championship again?
No idea, didn't look at the other teams, just the Cindy one
Didn't even look at this morning's matchup yet lol
Aha
Any tips to counter this?
How many pull it took for you to get Vesti? 

Fast Scarlet comp
need more cp you're below the deficit line so gg
Or just gamble with Siren on the comp
i just used 400 tickets for Anne and Helm, then cried to my friend about 84 failed pulls on Anis and got Anis on 85
I have no idea if i need to get Vesti or keep fro RE/Anniv
im still pissed my moran nero team lost this but thinking back i think this is an actual counter to moran nero specifically
If you end up looking and analyzing, please ping me
Otherwise, in any case, my cheer this time defaults to you. Cindy math you did was helpful, still worried about your 1st team's Scarlet dying because they fixed the Jackal extra burst gen bug
Man... The problem is that i was winning against him, but it was another team. But i was barely make it through.
But still, i could make it.
seasonal bugs are over
could go with slow cindy.
Siren p3-5 to screw Noah before wipe them, p1-2 if you know Noah taunt instead of Noise. P1 unlinked rapu and Soda work too.
3RL Noah+Biscuit+Emi/Vesti/S.Anis.
.etc
Him last time 
The should make it a seasonal buff tbh. 
just take on the other two teams also an option
I'm dying to get Emilia, but since i started to play after the collab, i dont have her. But, i have Noah-Biscuit-Vesti-S.Annis properly (kinda) builded.
Noah+Biscuit+Vesti+RH+Flex is enough. Could go with Noir for more atk and bullet.
Also a question, what if replace RH with Ein, since she bit benefits from Maiden + screenwipe burst?
Or put her instead Noir
I was making throught them. But, it was way to close to win against them. I tried to run again with the same comps as usual, but no luck there.
what are their current teams for 2/3 now?
Here...
show cp etc?
2/3
@crystal flicker I remember you used to have "500pulls 0 SSR" on? 
Pls, kinda ignore the third team. Kinda leftovers
Oh i had 350 on evangelion for Asuka
is your rosa built?
I was winning with with Noah-Biscuit-Cindy-Rapunzel-THelm. But no luck since.... a lot of time.
Sorry. Nope.
Noa bis into noa bisq is a fiesta tbh, in my old comp siren did the funny and flabergast Noah
For comparison effects, this cp team is 688159 Cp.
how does this look cp wise?
I sense a big "non pvp" energy from this pic. 
for scar team this should work
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you're at deficit there then I think
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can you raise the cp of the rapi team by a few k? cubes? dolls? skills?
check cp with noah instead of bay
also note any units with high cp we have unnused
we can maybe pad a bit somewhere
@swift mango he reached 661 and this is what i get
plus seasonal bugs ended 🙁
Well... I got these units we could mess with.
Plus Bay-Mana-centi- moran
trina instead of centi?
621292...
First time getting S.Anis, trying to rejigger my lineups. Anything jump out as needing change, particularly with S.Anis team? Any good third team to focus on, or is CP padding team at the bottom ok? Hoping to pull Noah
that's in range
are in we in range on the trina swap instead of centi for the other team?
My trina got a higher cp instead Centi. So...
you're trying to beat this?
yes
you don't need to indom mirror this, low feed 2RL Helm nuke the links
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I've not messed with helm link nuke, what team do you suggest?
unless you using Helm for team 1 
nah helm was on anti-scar team but I think we can 2RL that without her
what comp did you have in mind for sbs one? we can see what is left to work with for scar
they'd both probably work but let's see what else we can do quick 🙂
your pvp units are too far down the list to really hold anything you get though
Should I have been sub 2rl here or is bug still there
@umbral belfry who do you think will be Champion? I personally think its Piggy
🐷 is the current fav
it doesn't matter who the links are, I assume Helm is linked just from eyeballing CP but even if she somehow isn't it's still fast enough. Alice is there for CP pad.
Try to check by auto team to see if your team even in hitting CP range anymore.
check cp fire of this one then
For his SBS, I was using Noah-biscuit-cindy-tHelm-Rapunzel.
@daring gust
I found your last season winner of 3rd bracket not getting out of League. You did way better than him already. 
R1: Leaning towards Piggy. Atking SGs to scarlet might keep her alive long enough to burst thanks to Trina
R2: Piggy. Whatever J has is not 2 RL
R3: Piggy. SGs to Laplop will dismantle the stall team
R4: J. Poison comp wins out against stall
R5: Leaning towards Piggy, especially if Scar kills Mihara early
problem is if you're doing Noah Biscuit for his Scar Ros, you can't get 2RL without Helm I think
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you can do Noah without Biscuit if you're confident to not lose to Ros
well that is fine too
if too low cp let us know
if your XMaiden is fat enough
it shouldn't matter even if she isn't, once you burst anyway, if not we need a diff b3
but gotta watch for ros snipe
- It's too low.
but the whole team on burst mode with xmaiden should make fairly quick work
what is the low cp here?
do you have a counter team for this one ?
Moran is taking all the heat without breaking a sweat allowing the three other to snipe me. Tried different comp
we need to find 30k just curious where the shortfall is haha
vesti nuke or rapi nuke prob
Biscuit. But everyone is pretty much even. The gap is around 10k
i'm guessing helm is bumping up your cp a lot
Between Trina and Biscuit
Deserves the win more. He was a total menace in the previous CA shard
Yes, Helm is my second strongest CP wise.
does s.anis bump you up enough?
don't know if ros would target her as she's not an attacker
SAnis can die to counter
😒
can yall help me understand the new calc site?
you can try Biscuit-less, as long as Rumani gets 2nd rocket off then you can 1-2-3 even if Rumani dies because RH can B1
It bumps up to 621616.
Idk how confident you are in Rumani living for 2 shots though lmao
I think ros auto-snipes RH
of rumani surviving 😄
which is definitely possible depending on invest
I hope your tempering cube is good 
we could just cindy it also
Cindy too slow without Helm
yeah 🙁
you can risk Ein for team 2 but I don't think Ein wipes tbh, she's kinda weak
your window to wipe is also smaller
it's this concept or back to the anti-indom both teams were in range
think the rapi ver should win by default
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@tropic summit if you actually buy the skin, you would know how this game is still Pg13 friendly. 
need 2RL for the scar and it's difficult without tanking cp
I think we should angrily email shift up to fix rouge's gacha skin
Cuz its terrible
this ever ends or just go on into ridiculous numbers like 10000 wins?
rumani comp against the scar and rapi comp against the sbs I guess for now, only 30 mins before reset anyway
please record if you can 🙂
I will try
if this fails then so be it, nothing to lose really anyway if you still got free try
don't burn gems on it not worth
Since i already spend +500 gems banging my head against the wall, trying to couter this team.
if you want better attack options you'll need to consider raising the CP on your core pvp units more, they're too far down the list which makes them not very usable especially at lower sync
how strong is vestiTU?
is not worth it, better to wipe out for power gains
your main issue is your cp of the core pvp units making them far down your list
Strong enough to be on same tier as Emilia. 
Well. I try ito keep them even with the PvE content. But somehow, they kinda fall short.
check my power sort for a different potential view 😄
everyone from about noir upwards is pretty usable in any fight
Pretty nice...
but I invest a lot more in pvp, you'd probably just need to limit a bit whilst pushing the cp on the main ones
keep cp of jackal/noah/biscuit/centi/trina fairly high and you can make basically any attack team work
behind them rumani/noise/blanc
basic OL on all of them + 4/4/4 skills min (some want a bit more but they're not that skill hungry)
helm/vesti/cindy/scarlet are good dps options that work in pve as well
Well.... Telling you a quick rundown about Centi (Lowest Bat), she got the OL gear, 4/4/4 skills and just a R doll.
I got they all maxed up
rolls can matter a bit as well
for the overloads
but getting all the ones I mentioned to SR-5 helps a lot
Well, its pretty much i try to do. OL gear plus 4/4/4 skills with a minimum R doll at lvl 5
Since I am a F2P.
you need to get to SR doll to get the damage reduction passive online, so SR5 is ideal
SR-5 should be the min
don't put purple doll at SR-0 though
unless you never plan to touch that unit again more or less
I learned this on the hard way...
otherwise cubes
for pvp you can give them good cubes hopefully you are
due to how that is split from pve now
if you get resources also consider +1 or +2 the main pvp units some, it adds up
Well.... Cubes i try to split between PVE and PVP.
they're separate now
you can give your pvp units resil and bastion
your best cubes, and they don't take off the pve ones
cubes at level 5+ are best
that's what the arena tab is for with the cubes
I know. I only focus actually on the Resilience for now. Quantum is around 8, exclusively for the batteries.
definitely don't burn gems on pvp attacks then
it's whale bait
you'll lose more gems than you get in rewards + if most of your teams are at deficit it's usually a sign your opponent has invested more in pvp/you haven't invested enough in it
or they're 💳
I know.... But it makes mad when everyone keeps punching me around. i shouldnt be o competitive... lmao.
Pretty much everyone I'm facing.
what is your SPA rank?
Let me attack him before it turns te clock
may as well wait for reset tbh
1 
mainly because my whale half retired
100 gems done otherwise
Floating between Challenger 4 to Diamond 1
diamond 1 is like 11 - 30?
But if the starts align, i can bite chellenger 1
yep
it's good I think - maybe don't worry too much about taking top spots as I don't think you may have the power to hold them
vs chilling at say 6-10?
7-10 still gets 2.1K gems
Thats my goal. Tbh. Is i manage to get challenger 7. im good. The problem is everyone sees me and my overall cp, and i automatically turn into a prey.
if you can spend a bit more on the batteries for a month or so you should be in a better position
resource wise
how do the positions near you look for cp from rankings?
since everyone is 2M+ CP. I'm around 1.9M. So, of course, everyone shoot his chance against the weakest one. But i try to not to give away my position easy.
+2.1 M CP
halt pve invest a bit and raise the cp on the batteries if you can then
not like that much will change there in a month anyway
what def teams are you running/what cp are they?
my tactic there is usually to see if I can raise the cp of my lowest cp team, helps prevent me being gapped
Tryed your teams. The rapi one lost
did you record it?
always a good idea to watch the matches and record if you can
if you quick battle you can click this to replay but think it only works once
One sec
oh I see rapi didn't get indom
red hood did instead
to solve that we'd want to add vigor cube to red hood
it was 10 iirc and got her twice
but i was already loaded on that one, as the previous rolls were utter garbage from previous banner
damn rail you got some crazy luck lately 
i think it's balancing out tbh
haha yeah probably is
which is both good and bad sign
cuz it means i'm gonna hit 300 rolls for a single SSR soon
you going for either of the bunnies?
i'm waiting for more info to be gathered on them
if they gud i could, i'm stocked up
sensible, I think ade might be a good pickup as grave alt
Here...
oof typical SBS causing misindom
There's another "one time"
let's get a third one i don't mind 
Should be 3 at least in the last month. 
I could try it again
Use endurance 
vigor is on the link though if she has less hp than rapi she may wind up indom anyway
Is typical?
xmaiden buffs only post nuke damage, not the nuke itself.
If you're considering an alternative DPS team it could work regardless
we want rapi with least hp on link
SBS only misindom if 3rd slash on unlinked p4
if it's on link then just vigor is good enough
Yeah, vigor on linked if needed. Endurance on non linked if needed.
vigor on RH
endurance on Trina
But I put vigor on Laplace and she still got Indom....
oh fascinating, didn't know about this one more screw up that SU does
that is indeed a scam... imagine a scam within a scam 
Should I try it now?
when running low HP nikke it can mess it up
try it once don't burn gems, for science
or low invest
use the free try, please record again
there's a reason i don't like dealing indom with indom anyway
yeah we considered an alt option but we lacked the necessary cp
Ok... One sec.
pvp batteries low cp so can't make them work easily
don't send bad luck already, let it last 
Woah, scamming 
never seen it before in this game 
absolutely transparent game 
funny how ros sniped both rumani and helmT 😄
No luck...
got the recording?
you can look at it for free anyway 
we eatin' gud
the real skin of the patch is this one anyway
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Meta 
too bad only PvE main can admire it 
~~what happens if you lift those thingies she has on her booba
~~
~~or just a bit of wind
~~
I always knew she was the chosen one. We fought through adversity
nooo 🙁
if you go into a mock battle with the same team/cubes what hp does RH have compared with the Rapi?
you will see b||andaids||
Fake a sneeze.
the ultimate censor 
|| magic happens ||
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2 glasses? damn
Fire do work on the units a bit more as I think for them to be that far down the list they need better lovin' 🙂
got timed out for sending bay’s image 
if it's not dolls/skills then it's OL/lines
Bay is not wearing anything underneath. Bold Shiftup move, Kudos
you have to check in a mock battle
sweet mother of god
some stuff doesn't work until in the battles
hard nippleroni 
I did not expect SU to do this, they can have my money
very subtle. cant believe someone caught it

you can see hp if you pause
just bear in mind they take the pve cube into a mock battle
if RH has more hp it's probably that Rapi just died before indom could land 😛
RH is vigor.
Rapi is Bastion

I think
but it's possible for jwoz to win
seem like game bug 
oh actually I know why
it's because of Trina heal on charge shot lmfao

you got griefed
the Rapunzel incident
Always use Centi
user error detected 
damn
So, Centi instead Trina?
centi had less cp though was it enough?
Continue Raven for Solo raid or finally get some combat points to Bay
Around 10k less than Trina.
what is cp with centi instead?
These are my 3 pvp decks. My second is by far the worst, I can never win with it.
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Isn’t that equal heal to rapi and rh
hold on I think I got it
it was originally centi btw but I saw what the swap was with the trina one 😄
ah yes we love bugs :9
nvm, kinda unlucky Ein is elec 
I don't feel safe putting her p1 even if she's linked
This was where I first saw it 
if you had more cp in general for stuff could use a diff team altogether
think that is the real path to victory 🙂
in theory you only need to eat ele dmg 2 charge shots from RH and Jackal, so maybe it's safe?
I think this wipes their team before they can indom
only issue is if somehow LapT is the one that is linked instead 
also SBS third slash on RH link is gonna be kinda fat
unless you put endurance on her so that Trina or LapT eat the slash instead
this is the highest CP lowest feed team you can do I think
Well. My luck is on par today. 10 blue maintenance to level the doll to R 5.
that's a win
what sort of OL lines do you have, if you have blabla link can check that too
unless you mean 10 kits as in 1 roll
I took it as 1 roll 😄
if it's 10 rolls then it's not lucky at all lol
You can't get more lucky than that. Aside from 10 blue for 5 SR level. 
Oh nvm
do you use blabla link thing? if you can share I can check what kind of OL lines you got on your core batteries maybe suggest some improvements
if you share the link I can see it
Oh. I was screenshooting.
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke?uid=MjkwODAtODY4MTYxNTczMjM2NjcxNzY4&from=list&nikke=80
(Centi)
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke?uid=MjkwODAtODY4MTYxNTczMjM2NjcxNzY4&from=list&nikke=240
Rumani
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke?uid=MjkwODAtODY4MTYxNTczMjM2NjcxNzY4&from=list&nikke=111
Jackal
you need to edit your priv settings
top right/lock icon and change the privacy for your nikkes
change show my nikkes one
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke?uid=MjkwODAtODY4MTYxNTczMjM2NjcxNzY4&from=list&nikke=183
Maiden
Please, try now.
https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke?uid=MjkwODAtODY4MTYxNTczMjM2NjcxNzY4&from=list&nikke=412
Trina
I can see them all np
if you get/have rocks, consider rolling some stuff
trina gloves line 1 ammo can be improved
we want charge speed/ele/ammo/def (but mainly charge speed)
Ok.
any stat will pad a bit even hit rate
but yeah fish for a good 2/3 lines of padding with some CS basically
centi boots same thing
crit rate not doing much for her here, we need more cp pad, the ele on the helm should follow when possible
Noah helm/gloves should be rolled, we have no CS at all on Noah
rumani gloves
I agree on Noah. She is pretty much forgotten
hopefully you can kind of see what I'm going for, where you just have line 1
and it's nothing amazing, we want to roll for reasonable line 2 or 3 at least
Yes, I do.
if you get a decent line 3 it can be temp locked and roll for line 1 / 2 appearing
all of these will want CS on at least 3 of the 4 pieces, if you have a good piece with no CS but it's 3 lines of cp padding it can wait
you know how the OL works right in terms of cp value?
Ok. Just fill the empty spaces pretty much. If possible, with CS on 2/3 lines.
getting 3 good lines can be challenging
I'd generally settle for 2 reasonable cp pad lines with one of them as CS if you can
Not much, but i know we must aim for ELE DMG - ATK
On PVE stuff
different phases give different value
Will team 2 and 3 win?
phases are from 1 - 15
phase 15 is black line
phase 12-14 is blue line
each phase provides a cp value think it scales pretty linearly
initial rolls are always phase 11
cp value does not take into account what the stat is - except for elemental damage has 1.2X multiplier on cp value provided
to put this into context, if you OL a new piece and get 3 lines on your first roll
you will have phase 11 rolls x 3 = 33 gear score essentially
max gear score is 45 with 3 black lines (kind of unlikely)
the game doesn't show you gear score but consider that a line 1 phase 11 is just 11 value out of a possible 45
fishing for good line 3's is the best way to start but it can be costly to do 😛
because of how when you roll gear line 3 only has 30% chance to even show up, and line 2 is 50%, locking in a good line 3 can make getting the others easier
or you can waste* hundreds of rocks trying to get a good 1st line when you already have 3rd and 2nd...
also possible
it's why I don't typically fish for 12/12 lines or 3 good lines on gear unless it's a meta unit
I rolled two black lines on my alice. Shame it's the first one
rolling 3 line gear is bait 
you can keep a good line and just try to boost the cp, the thing is what units you are rerolling and what effects you want
just work on new units, better value
like some units only need 1 or 2 and the extra slot is just for luck
be happy with 8/12 
yes for the most part ol new units provides better value overall
but otherwise we're just looking to boost the cp of the batteries to more usable levels
and some of that can be done by rolling the gear with just phase 11 line 1, unless it's CS % already then hold on it
2 reasonable lines with CS included isn't awfully hard, though not like it's 1 rock a go either 😄
Taking notes
I gotta zoom off for a bit, but good luck, and I think if you roll a bit + sort some of the dolls out when you can you'll be in a better position to hold/attack
you can also +1 or +2 the battery gear on OL for small cost and it does help some
+3 onwards takes more resources
mainly good for dps
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Man, I cant thank you enough for your time and patience.
I will gladly follow your tips
But again, TY so much for your time
Just pulled S. Anis! Where should I slot her in?
And everyone who participated and gave a tip or took your time to help or read.
She works better with biscuit
that's a class act
can replace BSoda to be better buffer for Cinderella and move BSoda to team 3 over Alice to speed it up
guys I got a ssr from a orange mold
T3 is CP gap team
rumani 

doesn't seem like much of CP gap
is shelm or xanne better
Can be it. But it's truly honest.
it gaps up to 263k, which his T1 falls well below of
assuming his bracket is on his same invest anyway
so it's gonna be a while before SAnis is usable
ugh, yeah. Trying to work on that, but the gacha keeps blessing me with characters to level up. My lobster too buttery, my ice cream too soft

you also wanna burst Trina instead of Anis because she buffs Atk dmg + HP for Cinderella

plus anis should never be in p2
ideal would be p4 for any squishy unit you only using for battery/utility purpose
P2 so she ded fast and reduce their burst gen. 

yeah on that CP it's gonna do much anyway 
that strategy is for whels that can prevent being gapped
or for rookie meme teams
is xanne worth pulling for? heard shes mainly for pvp
I mean even full level Anis can die fast against LapT, Emi and Vesti.
she dies against fodder even, running her in p1 myself 
There are also people who put Anis p1 ofc. 
the only issue he's facing with that anis team is that he's too low in CP to abuse that
Same question. I personally don't see any use for her anymore.
Also should I bother with S.Anis dupes? Kinda rather save for better units, I think T.Vesti completely replaces S.Anis...
sacc is nice and all until you're gapped
s.anis worth, xanne only for CA and even then very specific usage
alright, ill either save my 0 gems or try and get shelm then
Skill issue of
Emi.
Ok, so xanne full skip, S.Anis.. Hmm... Hmm.... I really don't use her much anymore.... But ok maybe I'll give her a few more pulls.
got sanis from the 20 banner specific tickets thankfully
So you have to run Anis
you don't need dupes tho
So one copy S.Anis is enough?
you're delusional if you really believe that's the case, just ideal sacc unit that can die fast and still give burst gen, a la viper in p1 against scarlet kind of style
don't need emilia to run sacc teams, wake up 
Emi sacc is just as good if not better when facing Cindy/scarlet. 
Plus higher cp
can you even take a dump without thinking about emilia nowdays?
are you able to breath without her?
or you run into panic attacks
it's Blood's, don't worry
Pulled bade. Now mileage milk and become brick for collab 
single pull you'll get em surely
I'm out for some milk.
idk if you saw my dm to you but you were right about round 2 team
blood is the goat here
I hope you won.
yeah triple win
funny, i have that one
Rapipi panicked atk not know why she was pregnant. 
yo guys. how i can nuke this comp? it's driving me nuts !!

I got rumani now
Noise noah helm cindy rumani/jackal
I have no noah, which one of these seem to be the best
oh nbm I only have two options
one with noise and centi, or one with biscuit
shit theyre all noah besides number 2
Huh????
like this?
what does the * mean in that anyway
Use helmT nuke or SBS misindom or Bay. Edit: Oh sorry you are a different person to the guy who said no Noah.
can run bis noahless cindy team
likely quantum
Looks good. Though I think i prefer rumani 
Say You have no Noah, then ask which Noah to use. 
the more I looked at it the more noah popped up 🙁
Just keep pulling 
2rl Cindy loses to 3rl Cindy mirror due to Cindy delay anyway
really???
Depends if cindy can one tap 
are you sure its not just investment diff
Sometimes whale over comes
i got lost by sbs misindom. oh got it. np*
Yeah, I mistook you for another guy
Best season ever
I am on the final. But most of peopl expect I will lose
now get that c3
Noah diffed vs top 3
I was c1-3 without Noah and Jackal for almost a year. Just attack them when they sleep. 
Rouge skin 
Level 200
Has Gacha skins
Shit quality but my favorite character. 
run stall noah and nuke with helmT for sustain, example vid attached
normal I guess. Skin has nothing to do with level
Meh they higher cp and have Noah jackal I don’t. I could build rumani, biscuit, Moran and maybe but can’t brick my pve just yet 
np 
Just try harder. 
how much* does affect the lvl on pvp? this guy is +20lvs on me
Also why did the whale in my rookie arena switch to a bad team with half the cp of their old team? Is there some reason to tank rookie arena?
They have highest cp in my special arena by 10%
I mean, if no one attack you, just try to attack the higher guy for kick. 
this is good for defense? i stole the idea from a guy top of the ladder on my ranking list 
you don't need to concern yourself with level but with your team CP
multiply enemy team CP for 0.846 and you find out the minimun requirement to not be hit by penalty
that's a very slow team, ironically weak to itself but scar-jack on 2RL
got his ass, thanks dude!
indom anis 
scarlet died to helmt
due to low feed they didn't even hit 2RL
nope, anis too strong
And no sus jackal bug 
she took the indom by force
I wonder why blanc there instead of trina
Ok, I have an idea
I get both XP and Check, then @violet spoke gets Check, then.... Wait, @clear vessel did Check got you last minute didn't he?
suggestions? i can show you my goods 
I LOVE YOU KUBO-SAN
but who do I get? 🙁
indom, he was going for this
blanc is naturally slower than trina here too
having anis on an indom team 
what could go wrong
he was asking for it
I'd never do it, no siree
You rest in C1 

where the goods
I can't my whale wants it but then sometimes they're offline for like a day 
So you can 
for now I have it
unlike you they got a life 
but I don't know if I'll have it enough of the remaining time lol
I'm actually not sure lol - it's that or they're down the mines
but they also buy every single sh*t in the shop at the same time 
I am sort of curious haha
you got all the things you need
jelly 🙁
what you'll use for defense?
lvl421 with Emi is a little slow. 
there's a 2RL cindy, a 2RL emi and a 2RL scarlet
let's go with the cindy for now
That means he's a 🐳
jackal siren cindy helmt noah
give jackal your quantum and you're kicked into 2RL via feed
Idk, feel like you are bricked by 20 level.
buy one skin is hardly a whale.
Already bought gacha skin when still in low sync, imagine what he's gonna do at higher sync
oh sorry that's not emilia
brutal i got hit by check and xp after reset
I have a level bricked guy in my local medal bracket with tons of skin and max core crown.
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After reset it's fine.... But being hit is bad, yes
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Blood, I saw Anne's burst
According to the timestamp he hit me before reset
Quite a bit before actually. About 2hr before
you didn't roll her did you
Good wait
That means he used both attacks already? And XP only one
surely echo didn't give in so easily 
what you mean?
Oh.... Mmmm didn't he used at least once previous reset?
Not on me
like this then
just check their blabla link 
now max core her.
Is literally a piece of art
Anyone know why I cannot see replays in champion arena?
aye looks good
This always happens every patch update
This match was done right after patch tho...
@keen vapor I can bonk Check if you need, just holler at me. He has a CP gap team for T2 now. I'm an idiot, but can still bonk him.
And don't know how to properly version control 

I don't have check blabla
dw, it'll be fixed after CA beta 
people with Emi should be at least 441 by now if they tried their best to level up.
But if you started during Emi banner, you should be fine. Not everyone effectively with leveling and 421 should be barely enough to compete for c1-4 in less competitive bracket.
Is CA released yet in CN?
Wait, he gaps you?
I'm at work and glanced at my phone wrong, I CP gap him.
Look, happens to the best of us
that's cuz you're not stalking good enough 
EoS before CA is out of beta, 10/10

Close one
don't worry too much, you can attack later
that's weird since in the last year is like i lost like 3 or 4 days doing dailies. Also i completed the new relic stages and the new campaigns.. and on hard i'm stuck at the whale ship thingy..
i started when S anis came out. she was my first character to hit 3 stars..
I hate you
you can definitely beat hard whale at your sync, you're practically blue cping it probably 😄
I hate how you were right

i watched a tuto and everything but not sure. i got decimated on 2d phase..
100k + cp in fact if i dont remember bad
Time to get my firearms permit ig
I did it with this
used klo method as guideline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhE7hO-AjlQ
yeah i still hate mother whale the most
literal ptsd flashbacks of when i first had to fight this boss in campaign while stuck at the 160 wall
i tried to replicate tessa's clear using smol white for wave clearing, but the deficit was simply too high
no idea how they were able to 32% deficit with that team even with slight sync advantage
link to...
you're +120 sync on when I did it!
actually you should be blue cp here
I have over 700K at 383
lock in
Hi can someone help me with getting some good PVP teams that i should level or now get by the rerun pulls?
Emi is before S.Anis I remember.
those are my most upgraded units
hell yeah. 2d summer event if i dont get it wrong
yeah, missing daily, outpost overfill, open boxes when your are walled at 160, not buying event retries, not trying to beat whale even at 421.... lots of things to be bricked here. 
you should not be stuck just RH burst the core down at blue cp
and you don't need 2 b1's
Well, you could still get Emi if you started at the very begin of summer event I guess.
run what I did it's probably blue CP still, and smash the core first with RH on first burst cycle. RH > Crown > RH
What are you talking about
he's on MC over 500 synch
trust me when i tell you i'm low on core dust
what?
I swear his image was synch 422.
Wrong check 
open all your 1 hour battle data and exchange it to core dust. 
He was first result for me 
dafuq i'm supposed to do with 4 M** on battle data 
i could do it but the exchange rate is awful (7 battle data 1h = 1 core dust box) and i just would get like 10 lvls.. is not that much either..
you will need them at some point
that's its only use. 
keep only 1000 x 2 hours coredust is enough.
open all the one hour and use half to exchange for core dust. half to level up with that core dust.
I cant do this anymore. I reached the point where I run out of battle data
feels bad man
Not him.
He would never run out of battle data and will just stack up if he doesn't exchange
I guess i could use some but ill try to get as far i can in the hard campaing for better exchange of the boxes
I didnt start having battle data problems until around 560
yeah, beat the damn mother whale already, synch 422 should hit map 30 at least
yeah late 20's at the least, can blue cp auto a lot before then with meta team
The thing is, don't open all your battle data to exchange. Keep like 1000 hours always. 
Rakuen is 600+ and he doesn't have battle data problem but credit instead. 
Stop gaslighting newbie.
yeah it's because I opened too much data and exchanged it for core dust
still need to be careful with it
when battle data is a problem you say? 500+?
it was a problem for me in like late 200s 
Who i swap for bay
granted I buy core dusts more than bd
no one
I have treasure
those are b2s more valuable than bay for those teams
Do not 
Maybe Biscuit if your Noise has more CS than Noah
my answer remains 
bay for defense is not a good choice
blocking single hit nukes and/or cindy
gives you more attacking options if you run into something she can deal with
Attack where you already used noah and need to block Scarlet
the b2s on your def are better than bay, keep your teams as they are and need be use bay for attacking specific teams
So i can do a noah biscuit and a bay for my anti scarlet
Don't over opening them and you shouldn't have battle data problem.
it does but nothing gamebreaking/anything meta
What skills should i level for bay
just a bonus on her kit, that's all
I mean it does but it's not pvp meta
it's pvp niche
now idk what you would get poli treasure for, kinda troll treasure on her isn't it
imo no. but it's more or less in the same position as bayT. an improvement, just not meta
but both are still useable (moreso poliT for CA sg teams)
But you might have credit problem later on. And battle data could be used to exchange for core dust instead. Especially with current event economy of long event so the days you spend farming x4 core dust increase but credit reward from event shop doesn't increase.
% don't go that much higher, so 444?
S1
is poliT a better option than xanne for the sg team in CA? because that's the only team I see her being ran in
i think xanne is more common vs poliT
depends in what you want and the SG you use, probably poli is better in mirror
different niches. but i'd do xanne > poliT yeah
although i'm keeping poliT for a while longer while i gear up my sgs more
I think 5s Indom is better than heal/revive with no previous buffs
Cuz 
yeah i'd say poliT wins mirror
the standard ca sg team drake b.soda xanne Rosanna noir
poli stocks

PoliT could win mirror match up against Xanne thanks to SG stuck hitting her 7 sec invincible. But could lose some match up like suicide herself into scarlet or overfeed jackal into 1.5rl.etc
the thing is sgs can't break poli. that's why there's a much higher lean to poliT winning sg mirrors
Rosanna p5 causes target skip right?
Polit is actually good? I got scammed by bay
SG used to ignore(S1) and hit rosanna p5 before, but that changed with CA or few patchs before
oh
did not know that
poliT is useable, but also not meta. imo from having + using her i'm personally happy with her. granted i didn't have much better b2 options
She has cute and fluffy hair 
Bay is better. 
Ofc if you could use her.
btw for ca is it worth removing jackal from scarlet team to do the 2rl vesti team?
depends in the teams you run
depends if you're confident in scar surviving solo
+ your other teams
my vesti is with noah/biscuit; jackal/scarlet
i separated them. my scar got cooked by another vesti team. but i ran vesti jack (noise noah) and it had really good results
Maybe half a year ago at least because it ha sbeen always like this in CA.
yep, i only noticed it after keripo built his SG team
mine was good until it met an indom vesti 😄

It's half half now for XAnne and Poli this season from what I saw.
pick poli 
the question is... did you get xanne?
Anne does not require SR15 doll 
she is full 10s+SR15
understandable


