pvp-arena

[acoustic light]

I mean ace hime and cup still look like some of the strongest

even with the new bracket

[placid bloom]

yeah

just think of the higher lv people in this bracket like the commander lv200s of our prev bracket

they got bullied and stopped trying

and then got given to us

so even though they are older, they are still not invested

[glad meteor]

Boolies

[placid bloom]

[umbral belfry]

pies

[placid bloom]

I see so many no/blue doll PvP units on my vote choices

these guys definitely just collecting their SPA paycheck and afking CA

[umbral belfry]

I pray you don't get a cheer for me kuwon eventually

[acoustic light]

I shouldve asked u to check my matches

I need to cope

[acoustic light]

I dont think I was around for the season u won but u were prolly saying that u were gonna lose the whole time

[umbral belfry]

I was not actually LOL

I remember being the underdog cheer

but I knew

[vapid lake]

last round i made it to top 16, this round i got hard countered 3 out of 5 teams in the very first bracket round

[umbral belfry]

[vapid lake]

peak content

[acoustic light]

right there with u

minus the top 16 part

[hollow lagoon]

well i made it pass advanse

[coarse lake]

Yeah mine nearly lost too

If mihara bug doesn't happen, rumani needs to live the nuke to indom

Otherwise you still lose

[crystal flicker]

Should I use Tempering on SG to avoid this situation

Pretty sure Rosa gonna 1 tap Scarlet, but RH pretty concerning

[vapid lake]

? Just believe rosa 1 taps rh too

[atomic wolf]

? bro is dead

[marsh junco]

If y'all don't mind, can someone help me make sp arena lineup?

As well what which characters to build if needed

[worthy sorrel]

we should all just catch up to radeki

[atomic wolf]

Radeki? Who?

[worthy sorrel]

even on pizza there are a lot of f2p or low spenders. radeki built different though

[atomic wolf]

Lmao im full f2p real shit

[worthy sorrel]

newer whale. but big whale. started around june '24. also in our set of pie guilds

[atomic wolf]

The disgusting namethingy?

[worthy sorrel]

pietisserie?

[atomic wolf]

Oh i thouvht its the creme pie or something

[worthy sorrel]

oh yeah, creme pie is the baby union. sl300+ casual guild. lewdist name tho

pizza pie, peach pie, choco pie, keylime, cream pie

[atomic wolf]

Hm

Mb then

Chain union?

[worthy sorrel]

yeah pizza pie is the big ranking union. we got 6th last raid in NA

peach and choco are competitive top 50s. keylime and creme casual/beginner

[atomic wolf]

Hmm

[worthy sorrel]

as a group, we've all become pretty active in pvp though. mostly becasue i was in choco when urawhat and i matched up in the very first CA, and he beat me, so i asked him to join up with us. then hime/aceross/phoric/bigdesti/etc

lots of the folks here

makes for good community

[atomic wolf]

Huh thats a lots of ppl in general

[worthy sorrel]

are you in NA?

always welcome to come hang out lol

[atomic wolf]

Yeah I am

[quick lake]

New gen pvp-ers

[worthy sorrel]

can send a DM
no pressure to join or anything. most of the channels are public except the raid coordinating ones, but also always open to people who do want to join up. i think the unions are full going into this UR, but if ever interested can reach out to leaders

[quick lake]

All the pvp oldies retired/afk/quit

[atomic wolf]

Check me DM I'll visit

I'm retired but still semi-comp so

[placid bloom]

double SR bunnies so no change to PvP meta unless they have Helm tier burst gen or something

[atomic wolf]

Helm tier burst gen implies that its either broken or too broken

[worthy sorrel]

feel like it's kind of like doctor who. the doctor needs his newbie companions to keep him young. see the wonder all over again

[atomic wolf]

Funnily enough if we put a tier list up for pvp both burst and burst gen utility

Hekm will always be top tier

Helm is like

single target dps killer
Insane burst gen
sniper
fits into all comp
has high combat power due to treasure

Other unitz have too much drawback to be considered actual top tier

[near plank]

https://streamable.com/igoc5l

[pastel narwhal]

🍔

[acoustic light]

only u can do it cup

[rich ledge]

This guy is changing his defense daily how do I beat this now?

Previously was this 2 I beat

[quick lake]

Jackal Rumani Vesti Blanc Trina
Noah Centi Cindy THelm Noise

The first team should win all teams, except slower indom (rare)
Just match Noah team against opponent Scar Nuke

Need to take into account cp deficit though

but in theory should be universal attack teams

[rich ledge]

yes the CP deficit is a struggle

[quick lake]

Cp deficit is a pain to deal with yea

[rich ledge]

can I beat him with deficit though?

[quick lake]

T2 can try:
Noah biscuit Cindy THelm Rumani

T3 should win

[rich ledge]

their cindy is a slower indom team than the vesti i guess

[quick lake]

Scar Trina RH Jackal should win most non-Noah teams,
then feed my recommended T2 to opponent Scar team ig

Alternatively invest more cp into pvp units

[rich ledge]

2nd team 806k so the cutoff for deficit is 681k i have 653k is it possible to win with deficit?

or normally deficit always loses?

[quick lake]

Can try

deficit is just more rng, less predictable

More pvp brain, trial and error

[rich ledge]

noise is much better than rumani for the cindy team? with rumani it will be 2RL vs noise 3RL

[crystal flicker]

Noise Noah Cindy HelmT Rumani is 2RL

Noah HelmT Rumani + RL can carry any dps to 2RL

[rich ledge]

Managed to win thanks guys

[umbral crown]

Besto besti friendo

[covert lintel]

why rosanna is sss:
can snipe any attacker.✅
can reach 1rl super ez.✅
can fight up to 23% cp deficit✅

[rich ledge]

oo really rosanna can snipe kill 23% deficit?

i dont dare to use my rosanna on deficit matches

[rich ledge]

like these I can potentially use rosanna?

My rosanna

[fossil sage]

who is better in pvp, noah or biscuit?

[covert lintel]

you can

But why lv0 OL when you have good stat

[rich ledge]

They have different purpose Noah is to stop nukes biscuit is to stall for defender

[rich ledge]

Too many nikkes to OL not enough gear exp

[mystic rain]

lvl 5 OL is a luxury

[fast cargo]

Is this true about new Vesti?

[covert lintel]

True

[valid inlet]

Seems like Rumani need to be SR15 and hp/def maxed to enhance her survival rate

It's a totally new comps to me so I just want to learn the outcomes with different matchups as much as I can this season

[shell hazel]

this guy in my top 64

[mystic rain]

offburst vesti dps 🤫

[shell hazel]

yeah is a head scratcher that one 😛

[mystic rain]

wait what mihara bug

is this part of the double skills bug

mihara wasnt affected by that iirc

[coarse lake]

no, it's where mihara dying somehow triggers her dots to do a ton of dmg or proc multiple times, either way, doing enough dot dmg instantly to enemy team to basically 1 tap them, as soon as mihara dies

[spare nimbus]

how can i 3/3 this?

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Could use her in Nero team for that purpose. She should deal more dmg than other options.

[swift mango]

Easy win.

[fast cargo]

Is Tempering really good for Noise and other tanky nikke over Ajudant at high level SP Arena?

[mystic rain]

😬

lowkey im not sold on the nero moran helm rapu dps lineup

[mystic rain]

vigor or tempe r better than adju

[mystic rain]

cuz from what i understand nero wants multiple healers to get her to max stacks on her dmg reduction so if ur running dps as ur flex like xmaiden, la+, or even vesti its kinda counter to that

[fast cargo]

Can they survive nuke teams if I level them enough?

[mystic rain]

noise properly invested is insanely tanky even on her own

like just from her skills alone

[fast cargo]

She's completely maxed out

[mystic rain]

and noise b1 can actually tank like scarlet double buff 50% atk nuke

that should be more than enough tank imo

at least from my testing

[fast cargo]

What level are you?

[mystic rain]

314

[fast cargo]

Oh I'm 619

[mystic rain]

GG

[fast cargo]

The damage fluctuates wildly depending on level from what I noticed

[mystic rain]

i mean unless high sync pvp has different stat gains

[fast cargo]

I don't have many mats so I'm sacrificing my pve chars by investing in Tempering cubes so I wanna make sure it'll make a difference

[mystic rain]

but for the most part adju is bad simply cuz of low values on cs gain]

[mystic rain]

tempe is like best cube for pvp if thats what ur asking

[fast cargo]

Better than Quantum?

[mystic rain]

oh quantum is uhhh

same prio

tempe quantum vigor r prolly best pvp cubes

adju is if ur lacking in that lil bit of cs to hit the next threshold for cs minmaxing

like maybe ur at 14 cs and need that extra bit to skip another frame

[fast cargo]

Gotcha I'll invest more in Tempering. It's really hard to find info about PvP that isn't outdated. Any links? Prydwen and Nikkegg don't have all the cubes

[mystic rain]

but again, adju values r so low that its generally not worth it for the most part

lvl 3 adju isnt even anywhere close to like t11 cs line

[languid wigeon]

Can someone cook me 3 defense teams

[mystic rain]

tempe is good cuz u can stack dmg reduction

with sr15 dolls

[fast cargo]

So generally just slap Tempering on any Nikke I don't have Quantum on?

[mystic rain]

or just highest cube, depending on ur team/units

[fast cargo]

Like for Cindy and other non RL types?

[mystic rain]

cindy doesnt need tempe she already has decoy

its mostly for tank units

[fast cargo]

So Bastion?

[mystic rain]

i would argue noah but noah has biscuit usually so tempe is low value for her

noise is good candidate tho

and moran nero teams

or whoever is ur p1 in a jackal link

[fast cargo]

I put all Quantum on my stall and Nuke teams

[mystic rain]

for stall use tempe

for nuke, esp jackal teams uuse quantum

[spare nimbus]

does this part of mihara's skill also activate when she is dead, when blanc, rumani, and xmaiden are still alive, when xmaiden bursts?

[fast cargo]

Ok I'll give it a try because these dudes spend over 1k in gems just to take my spot

It's so annoying

[swift mango]

ASS should go down. Vesti doesn't have delicate support like Scar or Burst gen like Emi, Helm. But she has a good stand alone dmg... Could worth the slot.

[fast cargo]

@swift mango ASS?

[languid wigeon]

Bump

[swift mango]

[mystic rain]

do u actually prefer offburst dps for moran nero teams

[fast cargo]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yrgv3D0sWc8&pp=ygUbQm9vdHkgYnV0dCBib290eSBidXR0Y2hlZWtz

It doesn't smell

[mystic rain]

other guy i talked to abt it also says he prefers dps than like quiry/mana

[swift mango]

Quiry helps you win the mirror match.

[mystic rain]

ok so whats the main reason why u want someone like xmaiden instead then

or even yea vesti offburst

[swift mango]

XMaiden doesn't have as much dmg as LapT or Vesti but she buffs Moran a bit and be tankier in p5 I guess.

Off burst dps could help you finish off some enemies that you couldn't finish off with Quiry I guess.

[worthy knoll]

[mystic rain]

[swift mango]

Enlightened us, you Nero expert.

Answer belum's

[worthy knoll]

No need, let them cook

[mystic rain]

soo its either more stall or more dmg then

[mystic rain]

yea im still not sold on dps since main idea behind moran nero is to stall anyway

and heal and just being tanky

[worthy knoll]

They need to try it themselves and experience the problem not putting a DPS B3, and not sure why they call it off burst coz they can still burst after stalling

[swift mango]

Well, you lose against Quiry 1st B3 if you get to a mirror though.

[mystic rain]

yea not a lot of people investing in pvp in my bracket

[worthy knoll]

Depends, the problem with Quiry teams is speed, and lack of damage. So its usually quicker one who gets the second full burst quicker

[mystic rain]

have to wait for champs to see if my cooks works or not

[worthy knoll]

Only exception if the offensive "off burst" B3 is RH

[swift mango]

In a mirror your Helm would one shoot Moran anyway or Even deal zero dmg to Nero. And Quiry+Helm would still be on the enemy team so basically the same speed.

[worthy knoll]

I mean cooldown speed

[swift mango]

Yeah, it's still the same.

HelmT is the one that trigger 2.5rl on both teams.

[worthy knoll]

Not on Quiry team

[swift mango]

Well, just need to upgrade Rapu CS to 21% easy.
The speed difference between RL and SR is just 2-3 frames anyway.

Maybe Vesti burst would be a problem.

But LapT burst certainly wasn't

[worthy knoll]

Yeah that is where the problem usually is, well I'm just saying. You can always just ignore my ramblings

[swift mango]

Are you using Vesti in your Nero team now though?

[worthy knoll]

Your 3 time champ, you know more then me

[swift mango]

Nah, I don't even have Rapu.

[worthy knoll]

I go out now

[languid wigeon]

What are the keys to a good defense team

[swift mango]

So do you use Vesti in your current Nero team or not?

Answer this before you left.

@worthy knoll

[worthy knoll]

Err, I could but no, I submitted random BS team this time, no SG team too

Not sure how I even qualified the prelims, I run Besti with Absolute this round

[swift mango]

Maybe I would exclude SG team from my next season line up too.

Use Rosa for something else.

[mystic rain]

mihara blanc biscuiit rosana rumani

[swift mango]

How was the win rate of that team.

@coarse lake too, didn't you use it too? How was the result?

[worthy knoll]

It won 3/3 but I think my matchups were just bad

[worthy knoll]

Nah seriously, my opponent matchups were really just bad. They were just too slow

[swift mango]

Well, tell us if you got a good match up then.

[worthy knoll]

See they were just slow, prolly no CS

[swift mango]

Darn, I have a similar match up today. Hope my Vesti team is strong enough for this.... I should have rolled CS on my RH.

[swift mango]

Still, that was nice show case.

[swift mango]

Thanks for the vid.

[shell hazel]

wouldn't need much CS for them to be 2.5RL

looks like the guy in 5th in my SPA has quit

this means my top 4 spot should be assured unless someone picks up whale mentality further down 😄

they had max core cindy and every outfit released so far, so not a small spender

[quick lake]

easier top 4

[shell hazel]

yeah all for it lol, topyro is usually chill if he's somewhere near the top as well

campaign malder like me

lmao

meant to stun 4 units but due to m.mast all 5 are stunned 😄

[wet basalt]

pls help me build team for pvp. i need attacker and defender

[hollow lagoon]

Lel have fun with that

[sterile matrix]

what are the lower row nikke ?

[shell hazel]

I got it, it's 4B dmg with her instead of helm here, might be better than trying to bump my alice team as it kind of sucks compared

[wet basalt]

this

i just need decent. not good one cause i know i dont have the nikkes

[hollow lagoon]

Ur malding is impressive, but I don’t believe in breaking the mast anchor duo

Other wise idk what I can use for my other team

[shell hazel]

this is true - I'll see how much I lose doing that

[hollow lagoon]

Maybe because u can do it with no healer u can get away using Blanc Lel?

[shell hazel]

blanc needed for my SG team prob

[hollow lagoon]

Man U can Leona if u can do it with no healer

[shell hazel]

not built :p

[hollow lagoon]

Define built

I have no ol on most of my support

[shell hazel]

any/all. I'll dm you as off-topic for the pvp stuff haha

[hollow lagoon]

I just have 7/7/7

[sterile matrix]

Rumani,Anis,Vesti,RH, Alice U need biscuit or noah as burst 2 if u dont have them in wish list.

[wet basalt]

thanks. ill see what i can do

anis is b2 right?

got it

[sterile matrix]

Yeah I think its good

[sterile matrix]

Okay this team is best xD

[wet basalt]

i honestly dont know what the number means but alright lol

[sterile matrix]

I was not that far off 🫣

[hollow lagoon]

Depends if your drake dies

If ur bracket have people with similar level then drake prob dies and ur vesti is b3

[wet basalt]

is this a 3rd party pvp calculator?

[hollow lagoon]

Yes

[wet basalt]

where do i find it?

[sterile matrix]

Its to calculate how fast ur units burst or generate it i think

[hollow lagoon]

Google NIKKE deck

[wet basalt]

i see thanks a lot

[hollow lagoon]

@wet basalt what sync of people are your fighting

[wet basalt]

same as mine around 150-160

[hollow lagoon]

That anis gonna be rough but u ain’t got much of a burst gen

[wet basalt]

its okay. i just need a decent one for pvp cause in pve i am in comfort zone so i need to shift building for pvp

[hollow lagoon]

Ur more in need of units

U have no real mechanic other than burst fast and murder people

[crystal flicker]

I'm still using Anis around 360+ tho

[hollow lagoon]

Me too

[void cave]

I have a question: do stuns from Rapunzel's burst and Siren's skill cancel Vesti's RL charge, or any RL charge for that matter?

Tried comparing the attacker's T3 to the defense's T3, but it seems Nikke Arena tools didn't have Pascal or any SR characters besides Anis lol

[swift mango]

Merge

[swift mango]

Yeah, if RL/SR are stun mid charge they must charge from the start again.

For Vesti it doesn't cancel the 100% charge speed up buff though

[void cave]

Thank you

[shell hazel]

well we just had that, won't be done for a couple more months at least

[obsidian tangle]

@fathom rock @vapid lake @tulip quest

this is how it went 😄

[vapid lake]

yes just ignore the vesti team

Tbh vesti release doesn't help you in def because of that, but it makes attacking more braindead easy

[onyx scaffold]

i know how to fight vesti tho

[onyx scaffold]

wtf the guy sacks emilia but no rosanna???????????

[fathom rock]

[magic hornet]

Is Bay worth building up for pvp? Still seems to be no reviews for her treasure

[lunar pawn]

Her treasure doesn't really buff her, it's just about fixing her kit

She's pretty good, though people are now focusing on building nero instead

[crystal flicker]

What is cheer?

I'm to bussy to cheer

[cobalt pine]

can someone explain to me if im understanding this right

using nikke deck, the charge speed symbol when making a team, does that have to be 15% or 25%?

[crystal flicker]

18

[tulip quest]

Yea boi well done

[crystal flicker]

For certain unit like Emilia, you can go up to 25%

[cobalt pine]

so if i have 18% cs, i can realistically pop the symbol to get a fairly accurate idea of burst speed?

[tulip quest]

15% I think

25% is for Whales bruh

or RNG Heavy

[cobalt pine]

im being told 2 different things, is it 15 or 18?

ty all

[tulip quest]

then lets go with 18%

[cobalt pine]

ty

[tulip quest]

11-15 18 is breakpoint I think

17% usually but

18% to be safe

[cobalt pine]

we'll round up in case

[north brook]

the breakpoints are different depending how fast the team is

4rl to 3rl is 15 i think, 3 to 2.5 is 18

[placid bloom]

it depends on weapon type, Helm with 11% is the same as RL with 15%

[cobalt pine]

say the goal is 2 RL

[placid bloom]

you cannot get to 2RL with just cs, the team needs to be natural 2RL. You can go from 3RL to 2.5

[north brook]

cs also makes your team slightly faster regardless of whatever breakpoints

[placid bloom]

2RL can be faster than natural 2RL with cs though.

[crystal flicker]

Join my 1.6RL comp

[north brook]

the only unit that can get to 2rl from a breakpoint is emi since with her s1 and max cs she can reach 38% cs

[cobalt pine]

certainly this should be possible with a combination of CS n quantum?

[placid bloom]

no because you are bottlenecked by your shot count

if you cannot hit 2RL in 2 shots you always need to fire a 3rd shot

and there is no amount of cs you can get that lets you do 3 shots in time someone can do 2 shots

[north brook]

the breakpoint for that is 38%

[cobalt pine]

that makes a lot of sense

[north brook]

but if opps have some cs they will still be slightly faster than emi

but yes its otherwise just flat out not possible for any normal unit they need a massive self cs buff passively

[cobalt pine]

ah i see, i was gettin confused because vesti is different

[wet crystal]

Just realized there's a sync 812 veteran in my group wth

[placid bloom]

yes

he is the most powerful modern whale

[shell hazel]

my group has some OMNI whale in it lol

[placid bloom]

400-500 sync above everyone else

[umbral belfry]

that's not even radeki

[placid bloom]

[umbral belfry]

he's 861 iirc

[wet crystal]

[placid bloom]

seem there is more than 1 late spender

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

I am surprised they spending after joining so late

[umbral belfry]

folian and I are just plankton compared

now we can truly be f2p

[sterile matrix]

Thanks for the suggestions and extra knowledge the majority voted for RH while I voted for Rapi

[placid bloom]

no you just need to catch up to him

[shell hazel]

damn 3-2

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

stop slacking

[glad meteor]

[umbral belfry]

never always trust the cheer fool

[wet crystal]

we've always been tho

[umbral belfry]

hippo no

[shell hazel]

🙁

[umbral belfry]

[crystal flicker]

86.46% lose frame chasers

[umbral belfry]

oh right lemme see mine

[shell hazel]

vesti indom > vesti non-indom

[crystal flicker]

Keep you Scarlet with Jackal together

[placid bloom]

so where's the Vesti 4 tappers at

[covert lintel]

Vesti normal attack range without burst not all enemies?

First time i tried it

[placid bloom]

nobody believing in the prydwen theorycraft enough to send it to CA?

[crystal flicker]

You didn't even read her kits

[wet crystal]

vesti hasn't failed me yet (in pvp)

[umbral belfry]

no surprises there

[sterile matrix]

The second fight was just a shoot battle 🤣

[covert lintel]

Nikke's skill is so confusing

[umbral belfry]

wee

[raven plover]

if her aa preburst hit all, you wont be ready for the trio one punchman build

[umbral belfry]

I expected that 2 sgs had the advantage

[glad meteor]

Weak ele. They should have killed blanc

[umbral belfry]

my stall fell to a scar finally

[placid bloom]

CInderella treasure will make her charge attack hit all 5 enemy, believe

[atomic wolf]

did I lose

[glad meteor]

remember sbs can win too

[atomic wolf]

i dont want to check

[crystal flicker]

Stall lose against ScarBS Blanc Siren (Whale edition)

[umbral belfry]

omg k wrong scarlet

[umbral belfry]

k don't look

[atomic wolf]

can someone check

did I lose

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

dunno, need a lot more ele, I don't think relying on ele is the best move for vesti anyway

[umbral belfry]

you did indeed lose

[glad meteor]

[atomic wolf]

OMEGALULXDDDDDDD

5L or 4L

[umbral belfry]

4 L 1 W

[shell hazel]

I recorded the matches, their cindy comp looked like it was fast enough to b1 noise before scar could kill em

[glad meteor]

Can send vid? Nice to have more data on vesti damage. Hard to powerscale?

[worthy knoll]

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

yeah I'll upload

their rapu at p1 healed as well but by then they burst

[umbral belfry]

I think this was thr match I said you had a a chance in winning star

[atomic wolf]

FAAACK

cutting my wrist

shit matchup

TRIPLE THE COMBAT POWER

EVERYTHING DIES WITH A SNEEZE

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal my next fight is with a 2 time champ my journey may end here

carry on the baby bracket torch

[placid bloom]

wym, just 5-0 them

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

pave your own path to the champion run

[umbral belfry]

ironically matchup wise I should win

but maybe rng will hate me

[glad meteor]

Lock in

[shell hazel]

vids up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkKjtdQZ8Xc

[nimble swan]

Nooo , Splirnok won with his new teams 😬

[shell hazel]

vesti indom beat my non indom version haha

[nimble swan]

My sg annihilated vesti

[umbral belfry]

I'm locked in

[nimble swan]

I’ll check the vid

[dense kindle]

Why am I still alive

[umbral belfry]

JSASORRRRRRR

[glad meteor]

Looks like need 2rl b1 buffer

[umbral belfry]

but also rip kets cheer

[glad meteor]

Like keripo. Or poopsolute

[umbral belfry]

indom vesti should always win over non 2rl vesti

[shell hazel]

I actually don't have the other units from their squad tbh, I'll just wishlist and get later

[umbral belfry]

she's gonna keep firing while your protection is gone and you just gotta sit there and take it

[dense kindle]

I told him to vote against me too 😭

[umbral belfry]

what have you done

[shell hazel]

yeah think the only way you can beat indom version is if you have a biscuit and immunity against the splash lasts long enough

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

yup that's the one 😛

[umbral belfry]

dw hippo I'll keep our teams strong as long as I can

[shell hazel]

might have to re-think a bit for next but was interesting teams

[glad meteor]

Yeah. Vesti cooking this season

Soon will become more clear on how the meta is shifted

[shell hazel]

vesti only one team though

[umbral belfry]

I'm a fan of this cheer number

[glad meteor]

Yeah. People moved key units around for vesti which has an overall shift me think

[shell hazel]

my scar match - did you see it?

[glad meteor]

Rh buffed?

[shell hazel]

yeah, is match 2

[glad meteor]

Yeah, noise buff tanked scar

[shell hazel]

yeah, so they must be 2.5RL

otherwise I think too slow to counter it

[covert lintel]

+biscuit
I don't think blanc will survive in p2

[placid bloom]

lore accurate cheer

[glad meteor]

Don’t need to be 2.5. Like 2.8 is fine me thinks

Just need to b1 in time

[shell hazel]

they need enough CS to ensure it at least

[crystal flicker]

So this is my bracket from an account that I created last year summer

[shell hazel]

default without any CS isn't quick enough

[crystal flicker]

AND THERE'S REM HAVER

[umbral belfry]

unlikely for blanc to survive without protection in p2 yeah

[crystal flicker]

WTH SU THINKING, MIXING EMILESS AND EMIFULL BRACKET LOL

[shell hazel]

SU don't care about pvp tbh, not really

if they did they would consider core unit cut offs for brackets, but doubt they even do that much

[umbral crown]

Lets go loser frame

[crystal flicker]

Maybe someday SU will mix my bracket with Rosy

[near plank]

how to beat this

[shell hazel]

I see people with commander levels above 500 now so not impossible to get matched up with Rosy myself tbh

[nimble swan]

This went a lot smoother than I thought.
Maiden and SBS died about the same time and right after Rosa killed Vesti. Viper didn’t get hurt too much

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/arriba-gif-12324188786972117417

me looking up at high level 500s while I'm mid 400s

[shell hazel]

yeah their vesti baby

[nimble swan]

Yeah

[shell hazel]

will have to re-think my teams for next CA

[crystal flicker]

Who do you think gonna win this one

[shell hazel]

sleep for now, I need more rocks still, for scarlet and vesti rolls

[shell hazel]

pascal

[crystal flicker]

The whale has cores tho

[shell hazel]

siren may stun noise they're not 2RL

don't think she avoids it, they'll still b1 but without noise buff/heal

i'd vote right, plus siren adds a decent damage output herself, pascal not so much

[crystal flicker]

Yeah you're right, and I just saw that C7 Cindy lol

[shell hazel]

#whale life

[crystal flicker]

That left this against regular SG-Defender comp

Rosa RNG

[shell hazel]

biscuit prevents any shenanigans

so that should win

probably 3RL ish as well

don't think rosa would be in time?

[crystal flicker]

That depend if they can get sacc to 2.5 or not

[shell hazel]

that vesti not mega buffed though or she'd be lethal for p1-p3 before anyone can burst

[crystal flicker]

Thanks for the feedback!

[nimble swan]

Was vesti removed from nikkedeck? Next my noah bisc goes against this

Is this 3RL?

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Does not look like to me

[umbral crown]

In league i was against a 686 boi

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

Bro is 491 sync but still

[nimble swan]

We shouldn’t have SAnis and Emi but I had a guy with SAnis in group phase

[umbral crown]

In top 64 there was a boi with sanis c7 profile but was not using her in CA

[nimble swan]

[umbral belfry]

not using her when she's bugged rn

[umbral crown]

He was usijg cindy instead

But he lost

[harsh arch]

This team is easy countered by Mermaid (Blanc lock)

[dense kindle]

Who would do such a thing

[umbral belfry]

[nimble swan]

Should this block double buffed scar?

[umbral belfry]

yes

you reach 2rl

I've used that comp before that's how I know

[nimble swan]

Damn I swapped SBS indom with scar team last minute

[umbral belfry]

oh that's not you?

[nimble swan]

Nah it’s my opponent

I will win 2 likely

[umbral belfry]

[nimble swan]

But other 2 is this and another one is noah bisc against vesti indom

[umbral belfry]

pray

hope you got enough ammo

[umbral crown]

Now even that team is safed against besto vesti

[umbral belfry]

idk I saw it lose to 2rl indom vesti before

[nimble swan]

That last minute swap.. my unbuffed SBS goes against Nero stall again

[umbral belfry]

I'd assume it also loses to noah vesti like traditional 2rl cindy noah

[umbral crown]

[nimble swan]

Yeah i’m trying

[umbral belfry]

yeah 2rl indom besti bullies that team

[umbral crown]

This team.also bullies any sg

And scar trina without jackal

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

This team.feels.like nero team, wins against most teams

[nimble swan]

I wanted to run something similar but my Vesti is still baby

[umbral crown]

But guess not many people can affors this team in CA

[umbral belfry]

I can't bc no emi

[umbral crown]

Lets wait for rerun next year, me trust the process

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

I want emi gacha skin

[nimble swan]

It was maid outfit, no? Or you want something new?

[umbral crown]

The maid one

They usually do not do new gacha skins for collab chars

[nimble swan]

Yeah

Well I prob can’t c7 but would surely MLB her if there’s a rerun

[umbral crown]

I just want my emi to wear a proper skin

[nimble swan]

I will prob lose next one, but there’s a little hope. Idk if I should vote against myself

I never do

[umbral crown]

Depends which frame you going

[hollow lagoon]

So it is

lol my scarlet couldent kill their defenders

[nimble swan]

I had same setup basically

Idk maybe your opponent had more CS?

[valid inlet]

@umbral crown @umbral belfry this team can do the job

[umbral belfry]

slow cindy

so far mine is undefeated too

[swift mango]

But Nero team got lots of counters though. Just need to bring enough dmg to kill Rapu.

[hollow lagoon]

nah they bursted some how off of 3 units

lol rumani biscuit and cinderella managed to burst in time

guess i need more damage

[atomic wolf]

wtf how mihara

[nimble swan]

[nimble swan]

How is Mihara build? Doll lv and how many OLs?

[sinful sapphire]

I almost lost... phew...

[hollow lagoon]

lol my stall lived their vesti indom

[nimble swan]

Lol i’ll check the replay

[hollow lagoon]

their stall died to my indom sbs

oh wait

i didnt indom sbs, sbs died it wen red hood who proceed to delete

my kek tier cook is cook

[nimble swan]

I watched the replay

You lucker

[shell hazel]

mine? they b1 noise before scar nuke, def has some cs

[nimble swan]

Nah i meant Zant

[shell hazel]

ah I had the same match as well lol

[nimble swan]

Lol so you lost too?

[shell hazel]

my scar lost it yeah, but I watched the replay and noise was in time

if she wasn't then they didn't have enough CS, don't think it needed much

just 5-10% on the batteries was enough to tip it over

[nimble swan]

Yeah scar vs noah is always close

Next I go against Sunset..
i would have probably won if i haven’t swapped t4 and t5 last minute

[shell hazel]

rng arena gonna rng 😛

[swift mango]

I still made it after all with only one loss.

@umbral crown My 1 buff Scarlet beating Nero team.

[umbral belfry]

moran didn't make it in time

someone's missing cs rolls

[swift mango]

Both Rapu and Helm got stunned so no one to charge burst gauge.

[umbral crown]

I see

[glad meteor]

Stun helm

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

True

[sinful sapphire]

Your Moran hanging on

[umbral crown]

@swift mango all depends in investment

[swift mango]

Here is Vesti team winning against. Blanc+Emi+RH. Just like the one @worthy knoll showed few hours ago.

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

@tawny ice This is bugged Jackal making 4 SG feed the team into 1rl like the one you showed me the other day.

Nothing to do with Vesti.

[sinful sapphire]

so should i go get 4 or more copies of Vesti before her banner ends?

or is 1 enough?

[swift mango]

My Vesti is 0LB. Keripo Vesti is max core. You could choice which option is good for you.

[odd lantern]

depends on how hardcore you are lol

[sinful sapphire]

hmm not really that hard core

and i need to make room for other broken nikkes in the future

[swift mango]

I don't think he lacks investment. Just lacking luck.

With Rapu+Helm getting stunned, team can't be 2.5rl.

[swift mango]

Yeah, how I wished we had a B2 defender with Clip SG burst gen.

<@&946725432554836008> r

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

It had been awhile since I got a win against a Scarlet with my SG too.

[real ocean]

that was a bare ass lol

[swift mango]

Moran looks so far away.

[umbral crown]

Bro was trying to.cook something i guess

[coarse lake]

undefeated atm, kills neutral defender p3

[swift mango]

Show me some match up against meta teams when you have.

Thanks

[shell hazel]

mine lost to scar/siren

[coarse lake]

don't really have a meta matchup rn

[shell hazel]

<@&946725432554836008>

[coarse lake]

this is the closest ig, vesti blanc jackal link

[shell hazel]

lost here https://youtu.be/VkKjtdQZ8Xc?si=OA1S1jXNomEahZVG&t=102

[swift mango]

That's neat.

[ionic rose]

how do u get so much CP? I'm trying to level up my equipments but i feel like they dont do much

[umbral crown]

<@&946725432554836008>

[dim sapphire]

The new sg team

[ionic rose]

yay scam links

[umbral crown]

Good lines, max skill, max doll and gear lv5 . Also cores

[quick lake]

My nero team kinda uninvested

[rich ledge]

Does this work on deficit? More concerned about the helm team, if I stun Blanc with siren then I should win right?

[dim sapphire]

Hanging out in pvp channel no nero investment

[near plank]

.

[glad glade]

@dense kindle congrats on winning

[swift mango]

Me and my Bricked Rapu do no Nero as well.

[glad glade]

I overestimated his SG comp so I was dead wrong

[dense kindle]

Sorry about your cheer

[glad glade]

Nah no worries. Should have figured that two SGs weren’t enough

Not to mention the weakass Rosa

[dense kindle]

Same I assumed I was gonna lose on matchups alone, turns out I didnt look too closely at teams 😅

[glad glade]

The beauty of cheer predictions

[swift mango]

Maybe only you dare to do 2.5-3rl Scarlet+Trina on this chat.

[mystic rain]

UNLUCKY MATCHUPS 😭

[glad glade]

I should probably take the gold cheer frame more seriously now. There’s always next season to start

[mystic rain]

i think i lose this one

[dense kindle]

Same , I was one off 2 seasons ago and lost the champion round. Radeki lost

[swift mango]

Baby bracket. But still proper teams. How much is your synch level though?

Having S.Anis is old I enough though. Maybe it's not really baby.n

[glad glade]

Its a miserable experience trying to get it. Especially if you’re aiming after loser’s frame

[mystic rain]

im 314

guy im fighting is 403

[glad glade]

I feel that. That was me but always on the semifinals for some reason and like 5 out of my 9 attempts

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

3 RL

[swift mango]

Yeah.

[quick lake]

Probably not enough dupes

[umbral crown]

We always have to go crazy sometimes

[umbral belfry]

no excuses

[glad glade]

Man Radeki is being mentioned alot here too

[near plank]

is this def unbeatable? no one is literally attempting to crack it

[umbral crown]

Anzu and kirari

[mystic rain]

[umbral belfry]

my moran or nero doesn't have much dupes either

[mystic rain]

at elast if i lose this one i still get to keep my win predictions

[umbral belfry]

that's our senior pvp pie

[mystic rain]

if i win tho i get to live another champs

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

and I have been delegated to plankton pvp pie

[umbral crown]

Toiky, have invested rosanna?

[glad glade]

Pvp-arena’s miniceleb lel

[near plank]

i guess i have to invest cause literally everyone has it

what is an invested rosana

[umbral belfry]

you actually have a fair chance of winning lol

[swift mango]

TheY voted on synch level I guess. But you actually have more chances to win.

[umbral belfry]

[rich ledge]

No def is uncrackable unless very CP gapped

[near plank]

yeah but literally no one giving attack advice against this

[umbral belfry]

also ket I pray I make it out of top 32

[umbral crown]

7/10/10 40 atk sr5-15 dupes and ...

[near plank]

literally everyone here says that but dont suggest teams

[rich ledge]

Is ur CP on par?

[umbral crown]

Let me finish a thing to help you

[swift mango]

You are still in no?

[near plank]

yes

[glad glade]

Battle between two champions

[mystic rain]

round 1, 2 and 5 are gonna be L R R so its really gonna be down to round 3 and 4

[umbral crown]

[umbral belfry]

I am but it's a close match

[umbral belfry]

baby bracket champ vs toddler bracket champ

[swift mango]

A win is a win.

[mystic rain]

like idk man my double buff scar already lost to a preivous moran nero team so i dont know how my scar is gonna win against another moran nero team

[swift mango]

Too lazy to check so I just vote myself.

[mystic rain]

and unprotected blanc vs scar s2 is rough

[umbral belfry]

you can win r1 unless rosa kills your baby vesti. bisc saves centi

[rich ledge]

Against the vesti team a 2RL with Rosanna to take out helm and vesti and he is done

[mystic rain]

im left btw)))

and yea i already figured i can win biscuit team vs sg rosanna

[umbral belfry]

I know. my point still stands. they're def sg so they hit centi

[glad glade]

Hime, I also already lost the cheer streak. I assumed that two SGs and a weak Rosa would win against a 2RL No jack Scar team. I was dead wrong 🥀

[mystic rain]

my moran nero vs blanc 😭

[rich ledge]

Team 3 probably with a 2RL scarlet nuke

[mystic rain]

and my sg rosanna vs noise noah cindy 😭 😭 😭

[swift mango]

@clever dock

[glad glade]

I’m getting rusty. I need to take the cheer matches seriously again

[swift mango]

Your team hitting from Noise has a good chance to win. I have seen it won more often than lose in that match up.

[umbral belfry]

imo it's

t1 w unless baby rosa kills your baby vesti then l
t2 l? not 100% sure on this matchup but rn sanis is bugged
t3 bc their nero and moran is bad I'd say w
t4 pray soda doesn't stun blanc + pray their scar has more than 32 ammo
t5 potential w

[quick lake]

T1: Scar Siren Trina Centi Jackal or
Cindy + Siren/Soda 2RL. Possibly P1 Jackal to counter rosanna ig
T2: Cindy Rumani Mihara Biscuit Blanc
T3: Nero Moran Helm stall or 2RL Noah Cindy

[mystic rain]

i also checked his scar has 26 ammo so LOL no stun

[umbral belfry]

your sgs are baby though so maybe t5 is a l

[near plank]

.2 rl scar doesnt work against that team

[mystic rain]

yea

[umbral belfry]

then pray with all your might that soda gets sand in her eyes and doesn't stun blanc

[mystic rain]

XDDDDDDDD

[pastel narwhal]

vesti is in there, she cannot be beaten

[umbral belfry]

[glacial hound]

Bruh you literally couldn't get a better matchup than this

[umbral belfry]

I still lean your win though

[mystic rain]

i got muted in nikke gg XDDD

I CANT POST MY RAID AND CHAMPS AAAAAAAAAAARRR

[glacial hound]

What did you say

[mystic rain]

i didnt say anything

i posted a tweet of soline in that rouge mannequin edit

[umbral belfry]

you gonna explain your name in here or

[mystic rain]

and wym

[umbral belfry]

shoulda believed in your buddy jsasor

[umbral crown]

[mystic rain]

im like sure i lose 2 3 4 and 5 or i pray to GOD for his blessings

[umbral belfry]

@mystic rain shifty feet lover told me to forward tbis msg to you

[near plank]

im using this to beat t2

[mystic rain]

XDDDDDDDDDDD classic n3x

[glacial hound]

Yea it's so easy to get muted here

[mystic rain]

cant even curse in maincord 😔

christian server

[quick lake]

Yeah, the soda stuns can be quite annoying

[glacial hound]

Defender biscuit blocks enemy SG, scar Trina red can kill Nero Moran at similar invest, if you get fed to 2rl Indom you win scar, if you had high invest sg attacking Cindy is winning (defending against Cindy is losing)

[near plank]

isnt that scar vs their noah team 2 rl vs 2rl

[glacial hound]

Wrong positioning for slow Cindy, and it's not reliable for soda

[near plank]

thats why i used this before

[glacial hound]

Actually I don't think there's any reliably way to beat non p1/p2 soda

[mystic rain]

yea my scar trina actually fought against another moran nero team and i lost that one LMAO

[glacial hound]

Investment issue then, but in terms of pure team comps your matchup is decent

[quick lake]

Hm that's true. Mihara dies too fast as well

[quick lake]

T2 Siren stuns their Noah (assuming their cs% <11% )

[mystic rain]

investment issue and my scar already at 50% atk and double buff 😭

[glacial hound]

Only works against people who don't have cs

[mystic rain]

do i actually just roll for crit on my scar

[near plank]

?

[glacial hound]

4 atk 4 crit rate 1 ammo

[umbral belfry]

I still think he can win vs that specific moran nero bc their moran nero cp is

[quick lake]

Soda is best i guess if u have her somewhat invested to replace Siren

[near plank]

isnt soda rng

[glad meteor]

Ade

[umbral belfry]

80k cp nero and moran

[mystic rain]

oh if their moran nero is 🚮 then yea nmaybe i still win

[glacial hound]

Ade is for siren no

[umbral belfry]

believe in the pvp chatters that believe in you

[quick lake]

T3: Soda Jackal Scar Trina Centi
Assumes soda to be linked and survives

[glad meteor]

That’s sora

[glacial hound]

[near plank]

my soda no investment

[glacial hound]

Oh interesting

Debuff immunity anyone tried before?

[quick lake]

Can use Siren, and hope opponent doesnt have more than 11% cs

[mystic rain]

if i lose prediction on me im never coming back to this pvp channel

[quick lake]

[near plank]

i guess thats the only way

[glad meteor]

Yeah. Works as expected unless there’s extra debuffs from noah or jackal s1 for example

[tulip acorn]

Doro is confused in navigating pins. Can someone pls tell doro the proper pvp lineup using vesti?

[quick lake]

K can give his second opinion

[umbral belfry]

LMAO

[near plank]

how does this team work

[glacial hound]

We can only predict teams if ur invest is bad then ...

[near plank]

biscuit burst not blanc?

or biscuit dies and blanc bursts

[glacial hound]

You have wrong positioning

[mystic rain]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-anime-anime-girl-nijika-gif-3556982749330818705

[near plank]

whats what they mentioned lol

[fallow nebula]

What ol for bay and what skills important to level

[quick lake]

Swap Blanc and Mihara? that works too ig

[umbral belfry]

your main options:

jack blanc vesti lap emi (or other 2rl variations)
a 2rl noah vesti (many variations)
lap temma teunhwa vesti emi

more common one is likely the 2rl indom

actually for positioning I'd no jack vesti lap blanc emi

[tulip acorn]

Ayt. Thanks

[umbral belfry]

in case another vesti fries your p2 blanc

[umbral crown]

Thats for CA, SP is different

[quick lake]

Can try
Cindy Rumani Blanc Biscuit Mihara
Idea is that mihara dies, and DoT enemies to death tbh

[glacial hound]

You want Blanc to burst of course, and you also want Blanc to get biscuit since rumani is one of the tankiest unit in the game with s1 stacking

[fallow nebula]

Just treasured bay

[glacial hound]

You don't need Cindy p1

[fallow nebula]

She is??? What skills to level

[glacial hound]

S1

[fallow nebula]

Nothing else?

[glacial hound]

Rumani s1 is late stage optimization but it gives extra hp pre burst

[near plank]

locking in your answers?

[quick lake]

Rumani Blanc Biscuit Mihara Cindy?

[fallow nebula]

10-1-1?

[quick lake]

gimme a sec, needa confirm with @glacial hound

[near plank]

i mean i can see how it can work

[quick lake]

Too many slow cindy mihara variations

[glacial hound]

Well, using mihara biscuit against Cindy requires your rumani and Blanc can both live scar burst, one person can take biscuit but the other just needs to tank to buy time for poison to work, and it technically has RNG if mihara doesn't get poison on everyone

[near plank]

mihara poison hits all right?

[glacial hound]

Best general variation is Blanc mihara rumani biscuit Cindy

[near plank]

hows it rng

[mystic rain]

yanagi's dog

[glacial hound]

It's rng

Chance of mihara poison on all 5 targets: ~52.2%
Chance of mihara poison on all 5 target if enemy has jackal link, and only need 1 poison on link: ~79.1%
Chance of mihara poison on all 5 nikkes if enemy has 1 extra decoy: ~8.45%

Done python simulation

[quick lake]

really? idk. I tested that setup and Mihara dies too fast Probably against scar s2 + P2 splash

[mystic rain]

i mean dont u want mihara to die anyway

[glacial hound]

Ensnaring chains is RNG, it hits 10 times random at start of game

[quick lake]

My P3 Mihara worked best to die "slow enough" to allow chains to stack

[glacial hound]

Against scar?

[quick lake]

yeahh

[glacial hound]

Maybe RNG or ur mihara weak or enemy scar stronk

Scar team RL generally don't have strong splash pressure no

[quick lake]

true dat

[near plank]

[glacial hound]

I guess mihara p3 is also fine

Rumani p2

Having Blanc and rumani p1-p3 let's you beat Indom vesti too

[quick lake]

If mihara dies too fast, stacks dont apply to all enemies, as theres a delay between stack application

[glacial hound]

But this is all CA consideration

For SP there's better ways to fight

[near plank]

im waiting for the better ways to fight

[glad glade]

Had a look at your matchup. I might be rusty based on my current track record, but I think you’ll win:
R1: Likely to be your win. Single buff scar shouldn’t be enough to take you down? And there is no Jack to speed up the process so Moran should burst first. Not 100% sure since I’m not using the WORK calculator
R2: Likely your win. Double buff Scar carries
R3: Your win. Jack counters
R4: Likely your win. Unless if Cindy nukes Biscuit first, Rumani should survive till the end. Its not like Scar’s nuke after all
R5: He wins. Jack counters

[glacial hound]

If you have Ade I would do Ade against soda, and then against Besti you can just run your own Indom besti

Blanc counters Noah with the correct b3

[worthy knoll]

Ade works correctly now?

[near plank]

even pvp players i know dont have invested ade

[glacial hound]

Idk someone said it works

[near plank]

@worthy knoll save me

[umbral belfry]

Basically if I lose t1 I lose

but I don't see myself losing t1

[glacial hound]

Your Blanc of rumani is tankier

[quick lake]

Probably easier to run:
T1: Noah Centi Cindy Siren THelm
T2: Skip
T3: Jackal Rumani Scar Trina 2RL

[glad meteor]

Didn’t she always

[near plank]

blanc

[glacial hound]

Whoever is tankier stand in the back and less tanky get biscuit then

[worthy knoll]

I'm procastinating my SR atm

[glacial hound]

For poison comp

[worthy knoll]

I remember she was not working on thermite

[umbral belfry]

I have it

t1 w
t2 potential loss bc his moran will go before my scar. from there it's a matter of if nero and rapu can stall enough
t3 w
t4 w
t5 l

[glacial hound]

Oh you can Indom t1, noise Noah prayge RNG team 2 and biscuit team 3

[glad meteor]

Prob because it applies and reapplies too fast or something

[umbral belfry]

so I will say I have more chances of winning but jt won't be easy

[glacial hound]

Yea Hime should win

[glad meteor]

i expect ez win from the likes of hime

[near plank]

does this work

[glad glade]

His Moran, Nero, and Rapu isn’t SR15’ed yet. And they don’t have much cores either. Not to mention you have a pretty powerful Scar+RH. I think you should knock them out

[glacial hound]

Rosanna also works but you need to burst faster

[umbral belfry]

watch me lose

[glacial hound]

If you burst slower it's still RNG cuz soda can stun rosanna

P3 soda is pure gambler

Why don't you just hit the other 2

[umbral belfry]

believe, ket it will buff my chances

[glacial hound]

Indom and biscuit guarantee win

[rich ledge]

rosanna to kill the team with vesti helm is easier, once vesti and helm are dead t1 has no b3

[near plank]

bay tanking my cp , can i use emilia ?

[worthy knoll]

Noise Noah XMaiden Bay Jackal is the guaranteed team against Scar Soda

[glacial hound]

Why

[rich ledge]

i would skip the team with soda since soda is very RNG u dont know who gets stunned

[glacial hound]

What if noise jackal stun

[worthy knoll]

Oh guess its still double stun on Noah Bay

[glacial hound]

If soda was p2 then easy

But p3 then it's gambler unless Ade apparently

[worthy knoll]

B1 will burst before Stun right?

[glacial hound]

Idk never tried

[near plank]

we beat that soda comp with noah bay

[rich ledge]

b1 bursts before siren stun if 2RL

[glacial hound]

I think I'm the only guy with soda in my bracket and it always loses def

[worthy knoll]

I guess my CS has some effect

[glacial hound]

I don't think my bracket has more cs than me

[worthy knoll]

I always B1 before the stun

[glacial hound]

Can we check then

Two teams with same cs soda vs rosanna

[near plank]

[umbral belfry]

LMAO

[worthy knoll]

Didn't eon already did that test?

[umbral belfry]

why do I see my t1 losing somehow

[glacial hound]

I remember he test cs for soda to stun before noise but idk if he knew enemy noise cs

[near plank]

wait its this team i think

[glacial hound]

Use biscuit against shotgun

Oh wait enemy only 1 shotgun wtf

Feeder team blast his Blanc with besti

[mystic rain]

wait question how do u tell if ur defending or attacking on champs?

is it the symbol?

[glad glade]

Only way I can see you lose is if Pepper kills your Laplop before the bursts (ele damage and decently invested but still pretty unlikely), or if Scar somehow bursts first (no Jack so thats unlikely too). There is a possibility that Pepper dies before burst begins, so he may not even have a B1

[worthy knoll]

Mmh then that means as long equal CS, Noise will be able to pop before the stun

[near plank]

whats stopping me from stunning scarlet 1 again?

[worthy knoll]

Coz the soda team need to be quicker to stun before B1

[near plank]

[glacial hound]

That's good to know then

[worthy knoll]

Oh thats for Yanagi's Dog

[glacial hound]

But scar Trina is a dog shit def anywaya

If enemy wins the RNG they can just win with noise noah

And using soda need high enough CP to not get diffed

[umbral belfry]

I doubt pepper is killing lap pre burst. his pepper burst should hit my helm due to more atk

[glacial hound]

Scar ammo

Scar ammo less than 33 cannot be siren stunned

[near plank]

[umbral belfry]

from looking at his cs and mine I should still burst first

but maybe my lap will kill trina

she hits hard on electric

[glad glade]

Exactly. Your gut instinct is probably telling that you’d lose because of the ele advantage between Laplop and Pepper. Plus at worst, Helm dies despite the lack of cores on Nero and Moran

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal knows

[umbral belfry]

I will always believe in my helm

[clever dock]

POG

[near plank]

whats the logic for the scar vs scar team

[glacial hound]

Rng

Unless you mean the message you sent

Then it's just rosanna

It's just people who don't know enough fundamentals just use preset teams with various combinations, otherwise any team with 2rl Rosanna that can survive until rosanna burst should win

[near plank]

my rossana unfinished shes probably gonna die

[mystic rain]

does naga not exist

[rich ledge]

My this team can't win

Not sure if Rosanna is able to snipe 2 on deficit, there will be 1 laplace with Blanc indom left which I have to stall out?

[near plank]

cindy should be able to kill before buffs right

i think im just going with this

[umbral crown]

How it went?

[wet crystal]

Hits like a truck

[glacial hound]

just siren their blanc

then they can't burst

[rich ledge]

U see the video I already tried that

[worthy knoll]

He did, just that his B3 was wrong

[glacial hound]

oh you let sbs wake up

use a b3 that actually kills then

[glacial hound]

yea looks fine even if mihara dies

[umbral belfry]

zappy zap

[glacial hound]

bruh that blanc just didn't die

[umbral belfry]

also I haven't seen your matchup but gl folian

[worthy knoll]

At least ensure to kill Blanc, your prolly better off B3ing with XMaiden and not Helm, prolly replace Rumani there

[near plank]

@worthy knoll thoughts?

[rich ledge]

Hmm then I have to use Cindy I guess but replace biscuit? I'm not sure if I can survive without biscuit

[glacial hound]

don't have to be fast

enemy not bursting

noah biscuit siren + some b3 that kills before blanc wakes up is fine

[worthy knoll]

Just go? I keep seeing you going back and forth between servers already

[slim mortar]

anyone know how to beat this team? this is rookie

[rich ledge]

Noah biscuit siren Cindy rumani? 3RL

[near plank]

this guy keeps making new variations im recording each def

[glacial hound]

learn enough fundamentals then you don't need to be bothered by variations

[glacial hound]

looks like another siren stun blanc then kill their team moment

[swift mango]

@mystic rain Do you see Megumin in your bracket?🤔

[mystic rain]

he lost

in league

[swift mango]

So he is there right?

[mystic rain]

hes in ur bracket yea

[swift mango]

Mine?

[mystic rain]

@echo adder hi megumin 👋

megumion says he cant reply in maincord cuz hes not verified by phone

[swift mango]

Here

[mystic rain]

emilia players vs non emilia players moment

[swift mango]

I see like 5 other guys in top 8 regularly before not getting out of league this time.

[mystic rain]

aha didnt make it?

[swift mango]

Yeah

[mystic rain]

DAMN

[harsh arch]

Use Mermaid, she block Blanc

[swift mango]

Moon, Aha, Aoki, Rondrond and Joan who beat me last CA.

I think we did well in bracket #4 so we got promoted to bracket #3 maybe.

And the guys who did well on bracket #3 got move on as well...

Either that or we have 5 brackets now and some got moved down...

[mystic rain]

yea u guys were owning last bracket so hard

literally the same 16 people hitting each other every champs

[brazen salmon]

can this team hit 2RL since vesti hit 4 times in a row

[mystic rain]

maybe its deserved LOL

[mystic rain]

oh im not seeing any champs winner in this baby bracket tho so thats one thing

literally highest last season player was top 8

and its only 1 guy

[swift mango]

I see Serene not making out of league as well. So many new names around.

Coldstar, Mystichy, me and Chris still in though.

[mystic rain]

praying for coldstar's downfall 🙏

never gonan forget him beating my ass from top 8

[swift mango]

Off our old bracket 5 former champs only Magumin dropped early.

[spiral onyx]

https://youtu.be/nwKUab4ExSY?si=QoPnsBCtUboQJ2hV

[valid inlet]

Mine lose to Rapu Scar tho, I think Rumani needs to max hp and def to gain the chances to survive scar nuke

[umbral belfry]

that's why I boosted her s1 to lv7