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or you gonna have taunt p1 and p2 to shoot in the middle of your lineup
if p1 and p2 happen to be batteries, you gonna help the enemy
So Noah p1 or p5?
p1 or p5, p4 still gets enemy to hit p3 p4 and p5
ye
you don't want B2 stolen by someone else if you running noah
at least in general anyway
use SGs and rumani
Bsoda drake?
You get 5 slot at 10 and 7 slot at 11. or was it 6-8? Anyway, 10 to 11 is very cheap for what it offer. More slot and Ele.
here's a skeleton of a 3RL cindy, p2 can be flex B2
if you've the CS%
So ill have more cp to work with
if for whatever reason you need a 2RL attack cindy team without helmt you can do with this
ye cindy is expensive burst gen wise
Ive been using double link with bay jackal for defense
Ill have blanc soon so you have indom cindy skeleton?
Tho she buffs her health so idk if that even works
Cuz ik 3rl indom is good
wouldve been better if cup won then maybe id have a chance to win 
?
oh no you would 100% beat cup ๐ญ
now you must pray 
Or maybe something like this
Less jackal feed than soda and i wouldnt have to feed pascal
I also have no pulls so now I need to
I get elegg
Hmmm...
I lost last time, not a good sign.

Hime what do you think of the team I sent?
you aiming for rumani indom? 
No im aiming for rumani to die

Yeah thats what I was worried abt
Im trying
why are we doing indom Rumani
I only have 1 good team i made

This is my only good cook
P4 is blank cuz i can put so many options and hit 2rl
don't you want Noise linked though
I can toss anything faster than sanis and be 2rl
Noise and helm linked ideally
its true I blew everything on 
so you need Atk line Noise 

I'm 2 guesses away from frame.
well it's worth at least
Yeah
she is so strong
Shes gonna be competing with treasure bay for link is the problem
same and I'm screwed today
surely you don't guess wrong
it's close match with no obvious winner.
it's time for you to use the new Chinese calc and map out all the bullets 
Coinflip every time. 
if only they show me which of their burst 3 has higher attack to be sniped by helmt

Last time when I was 1 guess away from frame, I was on a streak of 4 of betting on the underdog and winning.
when I took a look at all the top 8, the only one I saw you lose to is ace. as ace would say in his own words "bully you" 
zyph saved us from bullying 
I also bet on the underdog on the 5th try, but that was a loss, so no frame for me.
zid is just 50/50
59% 

good guy Zyph
I was gonna map out the indom and the shot timing but I forgot 
and now u beat him
I would have gotten the losing frame if I didn't bet for me opponent to win when I won my 2nd CA because his Scarlet suck and couldn't kill my HelmT
Kuwon do you think upgrading noise helm/chest/hands would be enough?
Lvl 5 vs bay lvl 1?
when I wake up to a loss tomorrow 
what level your doll on Noise
but you beat zyph to, sooo really no pressure now 
SR5 vs SR15 Bay?
seeing that red loss screen is sad
so what u do is bet on them
when you see it 
It'll be sr5 vs sr15 yeah
I just need doll mats from sr
LMAO that's what I did last CA and I just 
RIGHT thats what I did against ace and I felt happy for a sec 
cuz +5 helmet/arm is only like +4k Atk on supports I think and SR5 to SR15 doll is 4.8k Atk diff
Noise base Atk will be higher
because she is support vs defender
so Noise should be higher
but still safer to have Atk line if you want guaranteed link
well it is time to log in and pull Elegg, good luck gamers 
me, not pulling for egg 
me either 
at 2RL she is faster than Mermaid
but you don't know if she will aim at Mermaid
so it's not reliable counter
Yeah, I'm just trying to analyze the CA match.
if the win condition is to stun Mermaid then it's coinflip
40% chance to hit Mermaid, 60% not
But 2 targets means it could also stun other key units leading to not being able to burst.
is there another chokepoint
1 B2 or 1 B3
and do you care if your p1 is stunned by Mermaid
There has to be 1 of something.
But they have RH. 
So it has to be RH and then either Mermaid (which would win anyways) or Centi.
Literally 50/50
40% chance of Mermaid, 10% chance of Centi + RH
I'll just look at the other matches.
Thanks kuwon
Btw who is a good offburst buffer thats Sr or rl
Yeah, fair assessment.
I did, and not with that team. ๐ฌ
Rail help pls
with what?
Soda is the counter to everything, just stun the right unit.
I need a good offburst buff thats b1/b2 and doesnt feed
just show your box and it makes it quicker
Good point
just what is happening
reset

no I wanna kill that guy first
I have sr dolls for a few rocket launchers, just waiting on mats from raid
he means the season reset, so you see all the bots
you should be cooking with these
as for the teams...
Okay, because I'm only 2 guesses away, I would appreciate someone confirming...
This is looking like a ||defender|| win, right?
I think ||Up, Up, Up, Up, Down||?
Where am I?
@gritty ridge additionally get a 2nd decently built clipSG burst gen tier and you could get a 2nd team with anti nuke and on 2RL
maiden is placeholder for that kind of unit... it would be lovely for it to be laplaceT
alternatively drakeT/bsoda/noir will do
you'll need to beware for CP though considering your current box
@keen vapor Can you take a look?
loading
Up
Down
Dow- wait, who's defender? Top right?
It's in the image, yes, top.
up is up and down is down, don't get em mixed up 
also left is the right left and right is the wrong left

You don't have to analyze that hard. Don't overthink it. ๐ฐ
@keen vapor but if you're wrong you're still responsabile for screwing his frame chances
He already gave me misinfo on the time I was 1 away from getting everything correct. 
living true to his MA name
It didn't change my cheer, but still.
bully shake him
he fell asleep
Hime is stocking now ๐ญ
Stocking what?
That's the character
Stocking

Oh

stocking as in... that stocking?
I've never seen it.


that one? 
Just look at her 
looks like a perfectly normal human being with good intentions 


i'm gonna do to you what stocking did to panty at the end of s1
she knows 

not just those 
@keen vapor if hime is stocking you're panty? 
may rng be with me 
dafuq there's no more of these
@tropic summit 1000+ normals no tove and thus no treasure Iโm quitting this game

I need pvp experts to lock in, I'm 2 losses away from getting loser banner PLEASE I NEED THIS
Ill trade you tove for scar
noway tell me you kidding me
not the quit part but the tove one
I got 3 Cindy instead
@tropic summit Any suggestions? Thanks.
Fun fact: I just learned that Poli+'s shield from her treasure counts as an extra hit target, thus helping the enemy team generate burst even faster, making Poli+ a net negative for the team. This means next season I will be forced to go back to the XAnne variant... RIP Poli SG team :(
- S8 Teams: https://youtu.be/t2MiGV4cMo8
- S8 League: https...
what's the 3rd team?
would also be useful to see your box
No worry about my box
oke
your teams are on the left
Thanks a lot!

see if you had used your gems to wipeout or get dolls maybe you can slowly CP gap the actual diamond players
but now you are part of them

no more gemming for attacks my boy
you telling me that's diamond player? 
Deficit 
no im back to c5
thats the one I was struggling with
WAIT KUWON SAVE ME TOO

KUWON PLS
you just gonna need to start OL all your RLs, not much else you can do 
and raise your PvP dolls
ok that CP kinda sucks 
you gonna have to give up on SR tbh
to build PvP
if you wanna kick those guys above you out
what about this...?

bro hes still in chap 30 
uhhh you need...
270k
247k
I dont think I can catch up w his swiping speed
okay but you know what he has? SR15 Liter and SR15 SW 
oh wait SR is out right, I can get some SR 15 too 
you know what will happen when you SR15 your chars? You will catch up and he cannot make his char fatter
if anything 12 levels difference shouldn't be THAT bad 
you might win on deficit but you will probably lose to 5 others the next time they login for dailies
270k and 247k?
so you will start beating his ass and he cannot beat you back
ye minimun CP to not be in deficit
okay bet
oh damn
, im kinda far
it will probably take you like 1-2 months to catch up, but he cannot really make his chars that much stronger
he will have to completely work on new chars from scratch to make his team actual PvP teams
if he just keeps using SR15 Liter and SW he will fall behind you
can one of yall get on my account and pull for me later 

my luck is over, all gems gone no SElgg
my luck already over too
90 pulls 1 Elegg no other SSR, 230 blue kit + 80 purple kit + 10 gold kit and Red Hood only went from SR5 > SR8 
time to reroll 
you would not 

worth...? or I go get some chicken breast 
wait lemme call the experts
@umbral belfry @shell hazel
a bit... 
if I was a spender, I would buy that

how much of a "bit" we talking 
worth
because anything package is better than buying raw gem

but I'm not spender so 
you already seem to know too much 
I would be spender if I started day 1 
since theres no defict or stat penalty in AI, a 10/7/10 RH dollless/ol less should be fine right...?
yes but why you using her
moreover, would liter peform better than siren in ultra...?
got no better iron units 
you gonna be stuck at s4 anyway until you actually build RH so no difference
oh 
it's like being stuck at Indivilia, maybe you reach s6 at 301-321 
or if your RH has insane Atk/ele you can do it at 281
@umbral belfry they're all going for loser frame it seems
both zyph and i think i win 
Ayo Hime why do you have Sora 
sgs into no sbs blanc bisc, sgs into blanc bisc, nero stall vs moran bisc
other than team 1 every other team looks winnable 
needed some insurance vs siren bc low ammo 
i mean high ammo
i'm 2rl with it so it works out
t1 and t3 are mirrors which imo i lose t1, not 100% sure i win t3
but t2/4/5 are wins
10 adv pulls, 10 normal pulls, 180 hours of core dust for $20 - it's about as good as the usual $20 packs with some variance
the one I usually get is 20 adv pulls for $20 and nothing else with it really I think
you use Sora in your Scar team ?
so the trade off here is you swap half the adv tickets to normal ones and for that difference you get 180 core dusts
yup, 4/4/4. I'm not investing in her. I only need her to counter siren stun due to my scar having high ammo
otherwise I wouldn't have used her
and if I continued with scar siren without jackal I wouldn't be 2rl, with my current team I am
Do I regret investing on Soda now 

Alright alright that's dope, might consider do it as well because my scarlet have high ammo
tyty 

Am I safe๐๐
Ive spent 90% of my time this spa in 4th
Lynara is the person I kicked out of 4th
I feel bad so ill let em have 3rd
Im just worried abt the former 3rd attacking me cuz I cant beat em
okay I will pull for Elegg wish me luck.
soda is good, as long as you run her in p1 or p2.
works well if you need a filler p1 and as long as she's jackal linked

ofc I don't regret dw 
huh, weird gif of this scene
cold period, rethink this course of action
Do you?
90 pulls only 1 epinel
Maybe I should uninstall game

Okay I'm done pulling 150 pulls 3 off rate. No Elegg, not even a pilgrim.
Totally the worst banner I ever did in this game. I will skip both Elegg and Doro.
Never pull on day one again.

I was burning out and did a stupid thing like pulling in the first few hours in Nikke. The 2 other times I did I got nothing for 100+ pulls.
But it was Elegg banner so I tried to be different. I think I will just claim 1 Elegg and quit game if my bet today loss too.
But you gonna win 3rd time champ title
Okay time to delete game.
My account won't recover from this anyway.
Still Rapu bricked and all
Good bye 
Good bye

Started with Elegg, ended with Elegg
Elegg was the one
what is counter squad for shotgun comp in pvp?
Scar jack id assume
Cleared up my phone.
@tropic summit yeah, this is my exact day. Sorry keep saying it 2/29
Okay just remember I have 800 mileage. Might as well get Elegg x4 before I quit.

Weird new peeps in ca every bracket , is cause units still bugged yea?
hi 
for my bracket these new "peeps" are people who finally do proper teams, no longer random bullshi go 

Can anybody recommend me any changes to make to my teams? I'm using the 3 below and have most every character besides Trina and Winter Anne.
Noah/Biscuit/Emilia/RH/Rapunzel
Rei TN/Blanc/Centi/Rumani/Jackal
noise/Cindy/Anis/Helm/Maiden Winter
oof... luck balanced out 
what quit don't be silly 
sleep it out and tomorrow you'll be fine
When will it be balanced out? 1 year and a half, my luck at its best barely above average. Balance out, to be way below average it is.

Does frima defense down work in pvp?
Cuz if it does, would this counter moran nero quiry?
no because they have high damage reduction not high Def
same reason Ein doesn't work
Ah I see, so those are different
Idk why true damage is even affected by damage reduction but it be what it be 
When the true damage isnt true
If I replace rh with ein, is the team usable?
Not against nero moran specifically
yes, you'll have to change the order a bit to actually get feed but it's usable
ideally Jackal Ein Blanc battery Helm
Well i was thinking abt the 50% true damage buff t.frima gives
Idk if she has enough time to get 6 shots tho
Maybe with mana?
you just can't get to 6 shots before the fight is over
But Ein my Beloved strong
Never lost this season

Actually, how does cindy interact with stored hp from anchor?
This team did beat all nero moran teams
There's probably a better order for this, but usable cindy nuke?
Oh I forgot to turn off frima cs
Same speed nothing changes

Hmm do nkt think anyone has cooked with frima
But for cindy, noise is her besto B1
But what if perhaps noise is on a different team
Then...
Treasure frima kit honestly doesnt seem that bad for pvp
Unorthodox b1 but no feed and her kit is based around full charge attacks
Any hp based b3 other than cindy and 2b?
Jackal should be linking rh and rrh right?
So the order is fine, id personnaly put Naga p1 rh p2 rrh p3
Rh b2
no way this dude isnt whaling
That is very low cp on those units for level
Especially for what looks like a campaign team
he has way more power than all of us
Means they were rushed invest
I bumped ash and panda down lmao
my question is how does he have that high of power but not much higher commander level
Buying core dust
@dim escarp you mlb elegg? 
Who is typical stall team? Nero or Moran or both, plus bay/helm and I forget who else goes there
I just really wish there was a way to get biscuit to burst while using her to invuln Bay
Rapu
I think
Right that makes sense thanks
I use bay as an anti scar jack team in spa tho
Offense only?
Yeah helm burst isnt as good when on defense cuz unless opponent is braindead they're not gonna attack with a jackal team
Unless moran nero stall
You can use bay on defense, she can protect your jackal team from helm and save Noah for another team
Right now I use this, was looking at fitting her in the SBS team somehow but that would probably require a full rework of my teams
I use her atm, managed to get 2 blue shield 
but yea, emi 
Honestly the only place I would think of putting bay in your teams would be scar jack team but I dont think she would perform better than blanc or trina would
Over siren maybe?
Well she doesnt catch nuke if she doesnt burst
I am on a server too young for emi to exist
Trina hyperbuffs scar dmg so I dont think she'd be better, I could be wrong i am decently new to the game still
Yeah I wouldn't replace Trina, she is glued to scar
Like I said the main reason I use her is to protect my jackal teams
Thanks for the input - much appreciated
Would this win?
No
too stronmg
nah any def is beatable 
I was wondering who it was, but it was Rosy 
Do i win here?
Im mainly worried abt blanc team
3 rl vs 3rl both teams
I was actually a bit too slow against jackal team
Siren MG mega feeds into Jackal, swapping out siren should work
If I swap siren out I lose too much cp, im gonna try swapping manchor for rumani and putting her in p5
So she taunts siren instead of noah
Hm yeah, happens
Will this taunts siren?
yeah, your Noah would get stunned by siren
I could swap Noah to p5 rumani p1 siren p2?
Can someone help please ๐ Is this the best team I can make so far?
Siren Biscuit Centi Helm Noir
Noah positioning doesnt matter. She will still get siren stun i think
Hmmmm
Liter Siren Biscuit Centi Noir
Bay over noah?
Too slow probably. I'll skip that cindy team tbh
Seems the decisive round for me to advance will be my Scar Soda vs SG team. I think his Rosanna canโt kill my Scarlet, but I donโt know if Soda can survive till b1 ugh, what do you guys think 
(scarlet attacking/SG defense)
Seems close. But yeah, I think Soda might die 
My miranda carried
Dont have enough gem to fight him
Hope im not back to d1 this aftanoon
I didnt get selgg
Save for summer units
I have gold mileage, saving it for Sanis
she mid. Pretty, but mid
Pretty mid 
I have egg yeah
Im pretty sure she outperforms mmast as flex spot on harvester, but probably wont see any clears from non endgame players with her
Yeah thats looking like best harvester team now
More people are likely to have mmast built tho cuz shes usable literally everywhere but pvp
yeah, cheaper to build
And the difference is gonna be like 20-30 sec max
Pray Scarlet crit attack hard 
Ahhh I couldn't resist her prettiness last Summer and burned a lot gems and equip foods for her, now no use 99% of the time but she stays in my lobby 
Same, I built previously built her for kraken last time 
Haven't changed my PVP defense team in 2 years. Anyone have any recommendations for Defense?
The best I can say is to clear campaign and increase your sync
If you account is Day 1 account, then pretty much you need more sync before you can do anything in PvP
my Account isn't a day one account thankfully, Around the time I started, I wanna say Crown Released maybe 2-3 months later
currently I usually sit around in Platinum 2, but Wanted to see what Nikke's I needed to Hard Focus for my PVP defense
I pretty much already have my campaign team, though I need to quick clear a bunch of stages
@swift mango he's on your bracket
Oh, that was the second part of the name I couldn't read 
And apparently deleting after makes it worse
Oh well
I wouldn't suggest hard focus at platinum 
Bro start retired 
Half
I actually thought I could ping him
if SGs are on def it's looking like gg then
they're gonna shred through centi and anis and ruin your burst gen

For PvP that always finished top 3, the only left is CA
Even I started to invest to non-PvP since SU don't want to release another new PvP Nikke or update the whole PvP
I think this the issue with Nikke end game, you can beat it with enough power
Imagine defending when Siren exist 
Why your Helm has no treasure 
Focus on that first, that's good both PvE and PVP
-# Treasures = favorite item
Check pins for team ideas
(Non MA behaviour)
Non MA behavior :

KISAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 
I can read ur mind Muahahaha
GET OUT 

Nana you can ask freely 
I don't even know how to get treasures

Do we have a favorite item guide? 
We do
Level 7
I just got the cube
Do it 
Resi lvl 8 first
wait my Dispatch has been class M long before Favorite items were even a thing
I still haven't gotten one from a dismatch mission???
It wont be long before quantum, adjutant, and temperance cube get levels
Its what, 2 months per cube?
Roughly
No, we got new levels
Fav item update was very close to crown release
Echo which cube first after resi? Quantum or temperance
Those levels got added at the same time as treasures/fav item
At which level is quantum?
quantum first
Even bastion 
i've long since completed them 
Check inventory for boxes
I think the only nikke that I dont have infinite ammo with is cindy

Thats just cuz she shoots weird
She does, yes
any of these?
First 3
You'll also need to open those gold/purple cases
those are Maintenance items no?
I put vigor on cindy tho so bastion still wouldnt do anything
Yeh
Dolls need them
You need to max doll for treasure
First blue doll 
so I need to upgrade the Blue and Or Purple Doll to max on Helm?
Not ideal for pvp but good for mc
Both
Blue to 15 then swap to purple
Use blue maintenence kits on the blue doll tho
Maxing blue doll with blue kits is easier than starting on purple doll
probably a good idea 

Oh my god 
not to mention I still have ALOT of boxes left
Share
Honestly I probably would have if it was possible
I didn't care about favorite items at all when the dropped
I have an sr10 cindy, an sr5 miranda, and an r0 bay
Ok, you either choose to use blue kits on purple doll or you open more to use purple/gold maintenance kits
Ill hopefully be able to finish cindy and treasure bay this sr
Btw bay got eaten by cindy burst and idk how
im sad. I used all of my purple sniper dolls on other snipers
Same speed
In your dispatch, you can click on it and choose which treasure item you want to farm
Don't worry, just complete current solo raid
There's a selector box
Time for me to look up teams for solo raid then. I've never done it
@unique wagon ping snake
People don't do solo raids 
Player count is flawed
Dont worry abt teams til challenge mode tbh
200 synch might have to worry
If ur sync 160+ you can probably 1 team clear with campaign
Why
Boss strong
Yes but you may have used 5 teams instead of one
On challenge mode yeah, but the dmg dropoff
Team 1? 3 bil dmg. Team 2? 300 mil
Also its just kraken so boss shouldn't be too hard
They changed Kraken for this fight, I think?
So Iโve no idea if past experience with Kraken is similar
its the hologram Kraken from the event
You'll need treasure Helm
Max blue doll with blue kits
Then we think 
that's what ill work on then
how was dorothy limited on pvp?
Bad
nope it's eco time 
one copy then we keep saving for Emi C7 rerun 

@shell hazel Who wins this time you think?
what match are you cheering on?
nah I'm on the Zael one, who is also in this channel
I'm cheering them as they're here but there are lots of mirror matches ๐
can't buy your way out to top 3 Rookie Arena now, can you?
i'm stealing back my spot
damn, i need to chill out after doing this constantly everyday over Pilgrim Growth ranking heh, unlikely
Yea they changed its mechanic a bit specially for qte ele early game and qte when changing to p2
Kinda easy with sg tho
there's a funky song remix as well
Yeah I was also on Zael yesterday so I though we are on the same match
seems to jump about a bit for some reason, did you vote for zael or the other guy?
wish you could follow someone and their matches ๐
I think the other guy, loser side. I am 2 loses away now so I am hoping to be done with it this time.
Mind checking that match if you can?
Yeah I agree. I would be simpy better if the game allow you to follow the winner from start to end
I can do just in the middle of a work thing atm
you'll be fine blood don't worry, RNG sucks, the game itself has piss poor mechanics due to gacha in the first place, which kills the possibility to test things without wasting resources, we all facing that (i've wasted 60 rocks on cindy before i got 1 ele line and i don't wanna know how many rocks i wasted on alice to get 2 CS% lines)
just keep playing, you've already reached what many players probably won't reach and your daily efforts gave results 
on the other hand if the game is indeed killing your mood/motivation, there's plenty actually better games out there anyway
nikke should be just a side game, definitely not worth getting your mood screwed over by the piss poor gacha model RNG if it stings
indie dev can't make new raid bosses without fear of having a repeat of last SR so they went ahead with a recolour of a boss they already know works as intended
This vince guy really pmo
as if hes always turn on the game and actively refresh the pvp
did we have pvp notification on blabla that I dont know
no those are, as you said, ppl that regularly refresh pvp
since defense is meaningless on same invest/knowledge, the gemmer/sweaty will always have advantage
and personally you lose the battle the moment you're forced to do the same, just keep a comfy position and move on with something more fun/productive 
Rail-chan
nani
Rocks indeed screws your mood
whip @keen vapor instead

Auch 
out of curiosity, if i joined a union of a guy that is in CA would i get all those vouchers reward for him achieving stuff there?
or only those that he will achieve while i am there so lets say he is just before match in top4 and if he wins i get reward for him getting in the final but not the previous ones?
+1 whip for Echo-sama
you don't really get anything just more meaningless arena shop currency
I already have 100K of it banked because the shop sucks and I have a surplus of things already
Union members get the reward if any members advanced in CA, but only get one reward, the highest result the members get in CA that season
it's once to all union members at the end of the CA season
so at the end? can i somehow check if anyone in my union is in CA?
it's not worth worrying about
just join a good union that can clear union raid normal day 1 ideally
it is good stop saying it is meaningless
way more value for the batteries/cubes than any ca currency gives
doesn't bring anything to discussion
what do you spend the arena currency on? the shop is awful
if the shop had some good stuff I'd say it was worth a consideration but even I as a pvp-maxi don't care for it, and prefer my union does well in union raid
i calculated, to buy all skill items you need like 17k of it daily which is impossible without or even with CA
you build a surplus of stuff in the end
I don't buy them when I have 700 odd of the water manuals already
My rationale tells me so too actually 
and the furnace is meh when you have most of the gear you need, it's only good early on really
so you can often skip that as well
you get reasonable currency just from SPA
i am light spender, let me try hard and be sneaky about thing s ๐
well hopefully no one is spending anything on the elemental books ๐
not even sure you can
either way as mentioned above you get rewards after CA for highest positioned CA member once
and no you can't see who is in them beyond seeing the union name in your bracket lists against each person
most good unions won't just let anyone in, it's tougher on new players to find a good union
yeah but union outside of UR is doing nothing so i tought i will jump on some easy arena currency
my union was like 6,66% last UR i don't know if it is that good and guy who said will kick inactive people is not doing that ...
it's not the worst, depends how many days it takes to clear union raid normal
2 days
not awful honestly
but like i said it feels like there are more inactive people now
really bad won't clear or it's 7 days, sure you can do better maybe but could be worse
dunno if next time it will be worse
if most are inactive you can seek another
i see guys in crappy unions but in top 4 CA ๐ so i could jump fo quick gain
40 minutes to decide ๐
Union benefits from CA is marginal. Doesnt matter much

still more than nothing
*fixed
t2 I think defender wins, and t5 attacker wins as it's SG's into biscuit locked teams
otherwise depends how the stalls do on their respective teams, I think I'd give the edge to attacker
unsure how well the double buffed indom will do against a good stall comp, could be strong enough to overpower?
Yeah that was what I was thinking as well. Both teams have one guarantees but otherwise feels like attacker wins
Honestly I always have hard time calculating stall team's strength
jackal/noah/cindy should beat the scar/trina comp if noah gets to burst
t4 it's soda stun rng and no extra atk buff, stall can survive single buff but a lot of potential rng there
both sets of teams look fairly invested to me
the top is hard work to win need rng on team order ๐
t1- I have no idea if that stall can hold double buffed sbs
t2- defender win
t3- Can Scarlet one shot Noah? If not attacker win. I don't think they can kill noise fast enough to stun Jackal
t4- I think def win again if Scarlet can't one shot both Mana and Rapunzel. But considering 3 feeds looks like she can? So I give this to Attacker
t5- attacker win
So overall feels like attacker will get this, tho not guaranteed
t3 noah should catch the scarlet burst if they are fast enough
scarlet can nuke before noah bursts if the scarlet team is quick enough
Yeah my t3 is wrong
you can see if either had any previous similar matches
i.e. double buffed indom beat stall comp etc
3rl noah can block 2rl scarlet?
Sbs with blanc debuff + rh buff should kill nero team without bisc. But sometimes it just doesnโt lol 
if they have CS it can be 2.5RL noah/cindy
have to put into nikke deck and see what the speeds are, I haven't gone to those lengths
they also have jackal so damage share and potential feed
I don't think its enough for 2.5
Hmm yeah I forget CS, with CS its quite doable
plus jackal feed (likely links with lapT + someone else you could see from a previous match)
may get closer to 2RL
I think it would be fast enough to catch scar nuke
While I am not sure it looks like 3rl from previous match
Laplace , Cind
interesting
At this point I just yolo, hope attacker wins
I'd give attacker the edge but could be an upset lol
I feel like I will be 
rng arena
2 matchs guaranteed but other 3 feels like gatcha
I need the loser frame as well hoping I just win it again sometime and I bet against myself to the end lol
You want to get it with style lol
I'm working on my bsoda atm, put Poli on ice for now as the shield thing kind of sucks a bit
She looked like pretty decent for SG arena team but its not?
if you put her at p1 to tank she will give opponent more burst gen
as her shield counts as an extra target
so her only use is on the end of the line as p4 or p5
it will work fine but it means you can't use her very flexibly
Nice job SU -_-
Tbh treasure system start feel like dud
yeah feels like her kit and bay kind of meh
so I've set my dispatch to Tove for now at least I can use her in pve
Yeah I will go for Tove, then Miranda and then just save I guess
I doubt I treasure soon, I need to SR-15 more things I guess
on my main teams, solo raid is up though gogogo
And I need SR5 more things I guess. My top 6-7 nikkes are good but then there is a big drop off so I can barely replace anyone if needed
also want to build mana for some potential use but I dunno if I need her
much to build, not enough things
I think you would use her, both at pvp and wind SR
yeah stuff like her and m.anchor I can spot fill in CA but also have some pve use as well
Fish
I'll probably try and make xanne my main b2 for SG team instead of poli
s.anis I may just get a copy feels like she'll get powercrept out of the metas soon, and I think she won't get a lot of use in CA
I think she will be a solid offburst for Ele SR for a long while. I would say a safe bet
yeah but only one copy needed for that
I'd probably rather mlb xanne for my SG comp in CA
I can't afford to mlb anyone 
same 
not until sep
I'm having to skip 2B/AB my free pulls just got me a siren dupe
not wanting to get them for anything other than collection tbh and as much as I like the characters I doubt I can ever really build/use vs all the other stuff I need to build
am likely skipping all other summer re-runs, similar reasons, I only really want for collection and too many other things I want
Yeah, I haven't pull for 2B etc. yet but I won't use more than free ones as well.
For summer reruns I will go for Srosanna, MastA and SAnis
At this points its not much surprise 
yeah I have to be picky even as a spender I can't pull on all banners
I skip as many ordinary ones as I can and wishlist later
s rosanna I just want for waifu I'll never get to use her lol
but top tier waifu ๐
s ros might be used 
where though?
Bleed is getting stronger lately, both Mihara and Raven are pretty good รผ
low key regret pulling dupes on raven 
I mean I'd love mlb s.ros for the lobby screen just costly vs other units ๐
I got mlb eve and raven cost me a lot, I love em though from the game
Better than me pulling for Eve dupe, I thought I was pulling for Raven lol
to some degree I think all the units are usable but I can work around some missing ones, and I guess summer units may re-run later ๐
once my pvp is built to where I want I can build my pve more
maid duo (may build these first very useful in raids too)
I really see some future for Srosanna and Sanis but I might skip HelmA and use Eve instead. I really like "one shot" builds like Miranda-SW but its hard to build that anyway
such antics are far away and by the time I can use them I suspect re-runs
I'll review when she comes out, don't need s.sakura anymore as she was mainly for kraken and we got siren now, that type of thing
SRos is just a decent B2 option if all your B3s dilute Atk and Atk dmg too much
Since dmg taken is almost never diluted
think worth getting a copy if I can? I will have enough pulls, I doubt I'll go for more than a single copy
I have maid duo for one team, crown for another, tia/naga/liter for a 3rd
then I'm sort of scraping the barrel a bit but I do have mari and grave
and I think blanc/trina works OK for elec comp with scar
Well Tia Naga wonโt see use every SR, sometimes you need coreless option
hi there. I'm still pretty new to pvp and I had come here before and was helped with building a team with SP. I just recently got some pvp units from my wishlist if someone would be willing to help me revise my team?
phoric no 
just saw 

but now ur time to win 

it's def winnable
1 copy serves it purpose. I dont like to see my gem count drop 
Members reunion in the finals
And the upper guy just won solo raid world champ 20 days ago

I mean dont u just win 3-5 outright?
his BSoda actually so strong, your Noise just can't tank 
so uhh...bad news
maybe SR15 BSoda is the way
it's possible for 2rl to lose to 3rl mirror LMAO
but I used the new nikke deck and my cindy will go off first vs noise
surely cindy hits noise first
but I do win t4 and t5
so chances are higher
he has Biscuit though and you don't, I think you lose the post-burst shooting fight

or post invin rather
I got mine to R-15 earlier 
I need a SG doll hoping for one in the SR after reset
we shall see 
He does only have noise as b1
I think as long as first part of cindy nuke kills then hime wins
high chance given kinda mid noise too
I think it's kinda hard for 5 defender to kill Noise 
his Noise is at least 3OL I think
either way, I have faith in my t2. all rosa needa to do is survive 
surely I don't lose this match when I win it before 
idk my filler team 3 almost killed his noise without burst
so with 2rl cindy should be gg
yeah tbh is squishy
heck my noise died quick to ace in a mirror before
and my noise is chonky 
believe 
Same
I am sitting on a completely non-invested Core 2 Raven
feed her good
I will believe 
oh my Poli won today from sheer luck of attacking backside of NeroMora 
no his noise died in that one no?

oh I guess he just didn't get burst
the sgs couldnt kill thru bis 
his noise didn't even breathe 
unlucky @cunning crown
was 4-1 against you but lots of mirrors and looks like close matches I may watch em later when I get home
@grand plaza looks like we were right, attacker won also 4-1
Nah hime u got this
avenge cup and me
double buffed slow indom couldn't beat invested stall so that was interesting to see
I will have faith in my SGs and Rosa and/or my t3
I will 
as we thought SG's both lost (so def won t2 and att won t5)
as I thought noah was in time for t3
also their scarlet did no damage so maybe just died to auto attacks lol
scar/soda beat stall maybe lucky on stuns need to watch later
@umbral belfry in the finals? lock in ๐
Hime champion run!
I'm locked in
we winning this thing?
repeater 
possibly
I believe in Hime 
I have 2 wins already, just need to beat at least 1 team
also bc ace said he would bully me if I lose to someone who copied his team so now I gotta win fr 
we go again you got further than me ๐
hunted down and kissed 


sounds like sexy harrasment
Fish
Will try and unbrick my sg team for next time 
I think thats it but I am curious as well lol
think even if she did burst noah would be quick enough
yeah we were talking about the core max doros lol
but I think she's not as good of an option here as a bsoda or similar
low burst gen
not a lot of high value fire targets either, just Nero and Rumani
and if they're on Mana instead of Rapu you can't even smash Nero
actually I guess Ros disables Mana so it's okay
Looks like defender wins? Just had a quick look













