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Doesn't poli make an individual shield for herself?
wdym
You don't even need shield to cause random skipping. 
For herself
says affects self
Shud be
like I said, you don't need Shield for random skipping, so your crown case proved nothing.
I mean there's no proof until poli is shown
@swift mango great wise blood, is poli worth in pvp?
probably not but she has potential
being a tank in p1 and all
I only see it as CA specifically since shield generally gives an extra tick of hit
that's what i figured
I think keirppo plays a Poli team in CA
he said I would use the new fly attendant girl last season too but but didn't 
I didn't either 
you never said you would use her, not even build her like him
Poli is definitely something for pvp even before tho, I don't see the treasure improving too much personally
Has some DMG, has atk steroid
She can tank now, that's it

Just make her main b2 no need to back up.
shield has same attribute as char and takes extra elec dmg? Or counts as neutral
Dorthy good for pvp?
no
better than maiden atlesat...?
no
Man, 80 pulls for this 
less than average 100 so good enough
whats blue team 
looks decent enough though t5 is cope, like most people probably
rumani may die on t2 but I guess mana res and you can still burst
My T5 with alice can actually cp pad pretty high
cp pad is not a thing in CA
cp matters not at all there is no deficit
more cp = more power probably yes, but bad cp can beat good cp
alot of power 
.
My alice is just hyper invested
I checked other team, my T5 cope lowk wouldve won against one if I actually built it 
@bleak shale no skipping, not even an extra target. 
all the new treasures are bad...
poli is worse in current team building and a bit, only a bit better in teams that people don't use even on CA
bay easier to use but not better, still the same synergies with 3 units and nothing more, they only fixed the whale dupe problem with her healing
julia... we have better iron units and no more iron weak solo raid for another year
tove is still the same kit
theres no other that wouldnt hit multiple things theyre all RL just helm and rh
pierce rng?
no thats kilo's shield
the cover is the bottom + pierce hit kilo
i meant to post this one
top number matches helm but bottom should be RH, everything else is traveling
anyone checked if poli activate this instantly at the start like jackal since the 20s is gone on her treasure p3
So just like any other defender then
makima 7 sec, more than poli(?
i think they have just been rewording the active abilities but they work the same way?
from milk, theres also multiple conditions inside of the skill now so they cant just have 20s cd for both
milk being start of battle, poli being police badge ends
also cake is back 
so the dmg shared one still has to wait20 sec 😭
and doesn't overlap with biscuit as well
@coarse lake guess shield does cause extra target for RL and pierce, my bad.

4/6 target to 5/7 doesn't change much though, just like Cindy p2 is fine especially for CA.
But rl hits still hitting poli is a problem
How does xmaiden work with it, who does the additional dmg hit
I would assume the shield first.
if it still had hp.
i assume new treasure for unit need more testing to determind how good are they for pvp still?
Poli yes
yeah, but nothing game breakingly useful for sure.
poli strong?
we are just grabbing at straw for they to be even remotely useful.
Strong prob not, more useful in her current niche? Seems so
guess you could say pvp is in their blood
If pvp is in their blood then bay treasure is bleeding out rn
nero bay viable, trust 
all i know bay good for 1 team only lol
bay wwith treasure doesnt need moran anymore
what build for her ? HP% ?
but still work as heal bot in nero team
Rn she's just a b2 rapu with useless burst
aw moran my spirit animal lol however dont use her since i havent gotten to point need 5 teams
Bay treasure is bugged right now I guess, so don't go for it until they fix
Did bays treasure just make it so she rebuilds her cover
yes, but she is not better than without treasure, just "easier to use"

Aren't they good together anyway, Moran+Bay? All the tanking....
Ahift up hates us
not a lot
bay have good synergy with 3 units, (not counting biscuit)
nois/helm/ and emma, moran only if you can reach 2RL and have another healer
but noise b1 is better than moran in most of the cases
they added 4% heal per full charge so you can still heal a little while Noah is blocking your Helm lifesteal, enjoy spending SR15 for that 
RIP. I need a new CA team then T_T
the healing effect on bay fix the dupes problems for some people
am i beating this ?
it's just not. There is only 1 meta bay team, and it Moran+HelmT+Bay.
if you have more dupes on bay than the rest of the team, that make your team weaker when bay die
add laplace and emi or more RLs and your 2RL team can last the first burst rotation
I used bay in SpA is SpA for half a year because no Noah, she shit. At least if she had treasure like now I could put her in p1 and she would be better in there.
too late already

bro, don't try to say that i don't have experience using bay...
Bay only reaching off meta status with HelmT released, in the team with moran.
With Treasure now maybe she would be more useful in SpA at P1.
now you can try to use her with xmica in to full burst chain, like bay/anchor+helm+flex b3
What bug it is?
damage share is bugged i think?
no damage share to cover
easier to use, but the same synergies as without treasure

still dupes/stats problem for bay teams, and not many good units for her than the ones i said before
i just went for her treasure cuz spicy
but... if you have a good assist cube, you can use that on a full stall comp with her
She is more synergy with biscuit now. Because before it's bad to use her with biscuit as biscuit only protect her but not her cover.
She also has new synergy with Nero.
commander there's no need to hesitate
in nero team though she won't burst right? as nero is 20s b2
unless you put her at p1 instead of nero
I’m proud owner of red helm
red flavour/blue flavour
contingency b2 for when Nero stunned by Siren?
helm doesnt get her proc cuz shield but xmaiden i suspect will still get her proc on the nikke
my friend shitting on dis skin cuz it dont look rapi anymore, i'm like i have no problem with red helm anyway
i'm getting the rapi gacha but damn the free skin better not be as good lol
i need the DEF fix from SU
pony tails does things to me
poli in p5 does sound
for CA tho
any defender in p5 is good
like the free unit from siren event
Yes It'd better be... Ugh... well... BETTER.
well u can just block all the sg straight up with the shield and likely deney a rosanna gen
half the time
cuz its shield -> hp
and no threat of rl getting extra gen
basically an Extra Makima, Cindy and School Rei. 
but now will be hard to get faster procs against scarlet teams unless you have viper as sacc or weaker SGs in the team (SG rosanna) for other teams... i don't think many teams want a normal gen SG in p5
we have supporst that fit the team or xmaiden, or biscuit+defender like centi/rumani/anis
makima/rei that can burst for steroid, ok ish
exactly, still I think the free rapi skin would be good
theres only 1 biscuit right, defender outside of biscuit can still get smacked by strong ele
am i beating this ?
I wouldn't bet money on it...
the truth 
Shame. I was so looking forward to strong Bay 😦
Welp, guess more mats saved for me!
my bay is still there with 10/4/10 good OL
it's poli++ vs poli of today
Bay needs the fixes if she's bugged hard to fully assess
T3 is winnable, T1 has a very weak B3, reconsider
noah or bay against enemy T1, skip enemy T2 as it's fully CP padded, T3 scarlet is fine, unprotected blanc and 4RL
switching ein for raven helps?
would need to see your box
Who to switch?
either of the 2 teams on the left can take care of that scarlet team
xmaiden can be replaced by laplaceT if you've her
alternatively replace xmaiden with centi/trina
that reminds me i need to update
show also the 3rd team

I dont gave x maiden or laplace t, noah nor bay
💀
well you're playing pvp on hard mode then
the alternative if you've an invested blanc
My blanc is invested
indom 2RL
the B3 in p1 can be ein aswell in case your SBS is bad
helmt and jackal need to have higher hp than SBS
blanc with temperance just in case
where's centi, trina and anis?
i have anis but not the other two
jesus
so i guess i can't beat this 😄
I can't do indom

how yall feeling about Toy Bay and Poli in PvP now? 
how is mana used in a CA team now?
stall teams
or unprotected p1 teams for indoms
poli slight improvement, but nothing gamebreaking
bay just got a tad less tedious to use
im going to need help cooking CA teams... guell i post box later.
Bay kinda just seemed like Noise at home to me, but the fact that it's damage reduction, might be big enough to be a psuedo Jackal type of thing where she guarentees you burst first or something
idk how I feel about Julia since we already know crits are kinda ass
crits arent really ass
got debunked earlier as mid tier nuke
Ok i understand, thanks.
not in pvp atleast
does her burst just hit once for additional dmg?
no clue on that 
need more data I guess, but I doubt Julia is going to be a priority for people to level 
i mean its still just 5.8k nuke on an AR
enjoy the crit rng if you try to make julia work
max invest julia just for your burst to miss the crit, gg
gacha even your pvp
Snow White comp levels of schizophrenia
hey snowwhite can 1 tap in pvp without crit
I've seen people use Helm burst in PvP and it kinda is scary 
@tropic summit @umbral belfry
link killer, ofc it is 
nice B2
Julia is impossible to full stack her buff in pvp
62%crit is a joke
im tempted to leave it b2less and see if some ppl lose to this team
monkeys probably will
your burst still isn't guarantee tho 
unless they release something that boosts crit damage
down the line
it would need to outscale regular atk% buffs and other standard nukers
what are the odds? 
why? 62+15, only need 23% crit rate from OL. Not impossible 
tell ppl to invest in rerolling CR lines on julia
see how they'd rather invest in other things 
I already do for eve

special nut cases don't count 
and Scarlet
I wish I have more rock so I finish my units already, everything are half built
Where did you get that 15?
base crit rate is 15
but no this is a gacha game with limited resources so screw creativity and experimenting 
Oh there is a base crit rate?
I didn't know that until now
julia needed a way to get 100% cr on burst without team help
Well, just get lucky and win 65% crit chance.
need 25% crit from OL though.
How's the Poli Treasure Burst work?
It's probably not what I think it is, is it?
It just give her 5s indom if she still had shield. what else?
Oh wait, I can't even read, it's not self-invulnerability.
it bad on many level
Well, I thought that maybe with with self invuln and a shield that somehow protects everyone, it would be like another Noah.
But it's not even invuln, so even if it worked like that, it wouldn't work.
it's just 40% of her HP and one team wide shield, doesn't do anything much.

The "shield on self that applies to the whole team" is a confusing description.
it's like Centi shield
Centi has a shield? 
yeah or purepunzel
Centi was meta pve in early day because of her shield helping cheese the crab
and chatterbox jump
bay treasure good?
worse than useless
as good as your previous team
makes her unusuable
Just bugged. 
small improvement but bugged right now.
don't trust SU to fix it anytime soon, could take 3 years
so its a skip?
it's a wait for a fix
mandatory skip if you use her in pvp

unless you wanted her as healing bot for Nero
anything this patch good for pvp? like treasures or nikkes etc?
hey are there ppl here to make teams for ppl who dont know how and will never
Poli only, thanks to her 100% shield. That's it
yes post your box
i mean hey im someone whos building anis just for tetra tower now
shes gonna get the phantom treatment
So much core but no credit
@tropic summit
@keen vapor
@umbral crown
my three teams have gotten me all the way to diamond 5 and its only my power level thats preventing more wins, but i also have a lot of new nikkes id like to fit in
@swift mango
yes post your box
okay one sec
so poli is actually valid in pvp? explain
if you already used poli in sg team, she's a bit better now
More tanky.
More fluffy.
outside of that team she's still useless
cope B2 buffer
rip
not useless, not optimal
Moran p1, Poli p5 to guard against SG without needing biscuit I guess.
plus better options
I suppose she's crown tier on other teams now, self bulk and gen instead of good buffs
How many sec share dmg poli take effect?
I got a doro in 100 pulls but damn my ordinary tickets sucked.
200 ord tickets for helm/m.mast/rumani (all dupes)
After your team ded and the match is over.
endless nothings
they want your 💳
I just gather my pulls and spend them when I get enough doesn't really change the rate at which I get them lol
i have 10 pulls ready for use in my name , and im spending them after im done building anis for ca
I will get all dupes too pulling in standard.
onky Rapu, Poli, Anchor new
but ofc I won't get them.
Should i just ditch poli and continue sr15 clip sg?
my core diff is bad enough i tried that and their link didnt die on one dude 

Crown provide 60% caster atk as off burst for Emi and Ein. Also 20%atkdmg. 
3 buff your helm.
how is doro looking? I have enough mileage to MLB her from the 1 copy I got
ya i needed to give her a buffer
Just an upgrade of sugar but not clip
15-20% stronger than xlud for dmg guess.
noise rapunzel cindy noir noah
sbs blanc rh viper jackal
auto
wishlist biscuit, trina, rumani, scarlet
get helm treasured
raise CP on noah, centi, jackal
get teams reviewed once the above are found
got moran to SR-15 but it was costly, SR-8 before SR-10 and then I think SR-12 to SR-15 finally
do you want to see my current attack teams
i dont know how to tailor a team for a specific team but its just what it is
also i dont have helm
raising cp for noah centi jackal now
MLB if you wanted Pinne on home screen
i raised the cp of jackal centi and noah and this is how their positions changed
are the 2nd and 3rd cubes i need to max tempering (less damage taken) and quantum (burst fill speed)?
ah screw it, it's done lol
I won't go beyond here but MLB is good enough for me
i'll wait and see on poli/bay debate but I'm leaning poli anyway unless they fix bay and she's then the better choice
ye there's still not much to do, find the nikke i mentioned and get helm treasured
CP pad on 3rd team atm would work best
ok
regardless the boosting you did is useful for attack teams
I'll decide by next SR and save my doll mats meanwhile, I should be able to SR-15 one of them with the daily doll mat resets and the SR income
Hi is S Doro a Clip SG?
If she is i max core
Otherwise i have S Anis and W Anne to max core 100 tickets and 100k gems aint enough for that
no
Thanks
what in God's name is thay
could someone please help me with this? t2 loses but I sadly had quick battle enabled so I don't know what happened
I do understand that my t2 is slower but I thought it should've been fine
t3 wins
le true meaning of sg 
who tested p3 poli
would attacker (bottom) win?
even if you quick battle there is a replay button bottom left you can use
Assuming similar investments yes bottom would win
oh, damn, well I did skipped
I'm 17 lvls under and 50k cp less
scarlet is decently invested lines wise
50k cp diff is nothing dont worry too much, ur scarlet has 7 seconds to kill everything, if the opponents noah and biscuit are heavily invested and u cant cut through in 7 seconds then u lose
oh man well.. I hope it will work
I never used trina yet, got her 2 days ago so I don't know common scar+trina combos
trina isn't doing a lot here except for battery and making your scarlet immune for a bit
Trina doesnt do much in this case, trina prevents scarlet from being nuked before blanc casts
because your b2 is blanc
Team 2 probably lost because helm died too fast, without helm burst gen you won't be able to burst
anis will hit p5
blanc indomed somone else

jackal is best if you want reliable indom
could swap jackal/rumani in your teams
check who jackal links with, the one you want to indom should have less hp
your other team doesn't need jackal
how indom icon looks
not sure it's usually obvious when someone just won't die at 0 hp lol
@shell hazelcould you please help me with both teams then?
show the whole recording if you can
Like as long as ur blanc casts her burst someone has to be unkillable for 10 seconds
basically that
also why detach your jackal from your scarlet? for indom it makes a lot of sense to keep them together
rumani can do what jackal is doing on the other team probably
she was never attached to begin with
right, but attach her then
scarlet trina flex flex jackal 2rl
I'm kinda scared messing with t3, pretty fragile too
your helm got indom
what do I do?
how much cp can you get with biscuit if you cp pad some?
that team 1 is just trying to cp gap you
I'm not catching up t1
if you can reach 716K you can beat it
no chance
even if you run crown/rh etc?
my auto cp team is like 660
I don't think you need Jackal, you just don't do enough damage with no buffer B1 and Blanc 
probably would've lethal everyone except Noah if it was RH B1 Trina B2
then again that Rapu B1 revive timing looked pretty tight, maybe he revives SAnis in time and still gets to burst Noah SAnis 
nah there was indom, just on wrong target 
wrong pilgrim game @shell hazel 💀
i just spent 20 , not gonna go for more , bought her using milage
im not willing to go for 40 for a nikke that i already dislike 💀 , cindy core 2 now tho so thats good
the one before it was mlc noah 💀 during siren banner
So I realized I never shared my Poli test video. Here you guys go, my Poli SG team beating a Moran Biscuit SAnis team 
that shield looks so fat
does the shield take extra from elec team or does it just take neutral damage, can't tell cuz the numbers went off screen by the time it broke
not sure but Id assume its neutral damage, not affected by def or DR or anything
What team good for poli?
that SAnis team with 5RL 
no promises but could try sending this against the s.anis team
and this against the scarlet team
vigor on jackal and helmT so they have more hp than rapi hopefully
thanks, appreciated
please record if you send it
I've never faced s.anis so I can't say how she works 🙂
my bracket doesn't have her yet
4RL but yeah, mainly wanted to test vs a Biscuit setup
Does that Poli have treasure?
They are to slow and don't burst
Isn't the team 3RL without centi?
it is yes, suppose you could throw in a dps instead
she gets 1 proc around ~2.3RL or something. But shouldn't redirect indom under Jackal since everyone takes equal damage
More combat power 
Test against stall team - Moran, Nero, Biscuit, THelm, Rapunzel
Or make it 2RL with HelmT...
Idk why you are using rapi rh.
Enemy might burst before you with that feed
ah just if you get her indom she'll smash em down 🙂
enemy doesn't have Jackal, there's no feed
Biscuit might be linked though because support is naturally higher Atk than defender
which is kinda awkward
can swap helm/centi @forest zodiac if you want
Pretty sure it'll lose against a 2RL Nero Moran Biscuit team lol, thats no question
every SG team will lose against that
weird things happen in my brackets
as people haven't fully invested the comps the chances of some team that should win, losing, is higher
I think it's pretty hard to get 2RL Nero Moran Biscuit without Emilia, high cs RL still puts it at 2.5RL
keripo will you be able to test p3 poli or just p2
Just P2. Im at like 60/100
usable? if you don't treasure sure
if you treasure, don't even consider using her until fix
What happened?
treasuring bay makes her unable to share dmg
Not sure what you were expecting lol, Poli to magically 1 shot everyone? 
Also, 4SG > 3SG, this is why I originally made my Poli SG team 
I jsut maxed my Bae thinking she was going to be PVP usable. Man, gotta reset her now...
With the new treasures, which ones should I prioritize for PVP?
I test new Doro in Arena and she is deadly. Her damage 2x more than Drake without even burst.
Do these two teams win?
Why you don't place TPoli to the right (5th place) against shotgun team?
You cant change your teams in CA lol
I think it SP Arena, 3 team fight with two empty team
yeah, Im using SP Arena and Rookie Arena for testing CA comps
thats why there's 2 empty teams
if he ranks up he can't attack anymore
he's already guaranteed top 3 so he doesn't need to rank up
just using the other guy as testing partner
And you can't change this team? My point about TPoli againts Shotgun team, they start to kill from right to left.
i think, you already know this

Of course I can change the team. I can change it to specifically counter my opponent. But what value does that give me? There's no test being done if you're running something you already know the result of
What teams, except shotgun, TPoli team can beat?
a lot lol
the same ones any SG team can beat
this is just a slightly better variant imo
Poli+ doesn't change the meta. She is just an improvement on an existing team
Poli SG team was viable before. Poli+ SG team is just slightly better
Depends if you can kill enemy before they indom. Maybe with emi cs they can win t1. T2 should be fine
Their 3rd team is a noah cindy comp, and im able to stun noah before they burst but cindy still wipes me
Keripo you think poli is the better one to build than Bay even if they fix?
Im not sure, Bay's kit is confusing. But I also dont have space for her in my CA comps so haven't looked too closely
@shell hazeldidn't use your exactly your team but maybe if you are curious https://streamable.com/xxyysv
they are both strong, it's only about your strategy
At first glance it sounds like Bay gets a general all round boost, which means she does her job as a nuke mitigater better, but still not at the same level as Noah, Moran, or Noise
She gains a passive use as a passive healer though, just like Rapunzel, which is nice but again, hard to find usage for
my logic was similar in terms of poli, I can use her in SG team as my b2
but Bay I don't know where I'd use her, especially if her burst gen is still low
I don't think she ups your win rate by much is the main thing, whereas Poli can give you an extra few % win rate over multiple rounds/tournaments
nice one, yeah similarish, Rapi indom is good in the right places as you see 🙂
Bay does what she does regardless of whether she is uninvested or SR15
I'll watch the situation closely over the course of the upcoming CA and see if anyone is running them
The change with Poli is that she no longer risks dying before burst, so you can drop the backup B2, which is a significant change as it can affect the team comp, but not enough to change the team's strategy.
The change with Bay is that she now adds a bit more utility to the team. Which is an upgrade but doesn't affect the team comp and also doesn't change the team strategy.
So I think in terms of "impact", Poli has more than Bay. But in both cases, you're not going to suddenly change your teams because of the treasure. There's no meta shift like there was with Helm+ for example.
lol, I use Poli only in 2023. There is no way she can beat another 4 teams in Champ Arena.
hmmm?
Scarlet - insta kill, Cindy - same. Stall team with Moran+Nero - no chance
I ran Poli in my SG comp in CA S2-S6 without issue. Tried XAnne variant in S7, was just so-so on it, not impressed. With Poli treasure now, switching back to it in S8 but without the Viper backup
Feel free to check out the many many replay battles on my YouTube channel if you want to see how she performed pre-treasure
Ok, it's interesting, I check
would u run poli on p1 or p5?
im kinda leaning on p5 more than p1 
Here you get to rewatch my Poli team beat up @scenic hatch 's Helm+ team 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgRrTZ_mg-A
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I don't like self sac P1 setups. I prefer my BSoda burst with her coin stacks to guarantee the kill
also I cant even reliably sac cause all my units are C7, +5 OLs with dolls lol
yeah I think I agree long term it also means you can actually build units
and not brick them on purpose
is it worth getting an extra tick on poli shield on rls 
i kinda lean on p5 cuz rosanna doesnt mind p1 dying, preferably their p1
You can also rewatch my Poli SG team beat up @graceful marsh 's XAnne SG team here 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I-E6pg-VxY
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So true 
Keripo first to pay 
Quiry sticker 😭 give me
Thoughts on these match-up? 
scarlet trina rh xmaiden jackal against T2
noah biscuit helmt laplace noise against T1
trina give her temperance because she needs to survive ele weak laplaceT
else move xmaiden in p2 trina p3 rh p4 jackal p5
which cubes should i be maxing avter reload?
Poli or Bay priority on treasure for PVP?
Got it. Thank you 
T1 you don't want them to indom emi, rather indom RH
scarlet blanc helmT ros jackal (if ross less HP than scarlet, give her vigor)
(this team assumes you're kicked into 2RL via enemy feed, especially blanc's, scarlet must be linked)
note: SG team works against this team, you can run that too
T2 just need anti nuke, bay or noah
noise rumani helmt bay laplace/xmaiden
noah biscuit cindy helm rumani
you will brick your bay if you treasure her
she's either bugged rn or intended. her dmg share doesn't work
dang.
but even without it, poli looks much better imo
I Decided to invest on Bay thinking the Treasure was going to help.
the treasure is currently not working as intended
imagine if it's intended 
then SU gonna have a good chunk of angry ppl 

Worked perfectly. 
well you've level advantage and progress advantage
that should be normal in your case 
I haven't touched Bay yet
Her sweat puddle can't tempt me compared to floof
if she was broken you'd already have put your hands on her
maiden is good in pvp right
which maiden
normal
The funny thing is, I've been stuck on Mirror Container Hard for months, so I was hoarding my core dust until the new chapter dropped this month. However, it got delayed to August, so I decided to use it all a couple of days ago and jumped 30 levels. Must've been a surprise. I believe i was 466 at the start of the previous season.
mid tier nuke and feeds
😦
oh ye 30 levels in a day would surprise most 
But now I'm bottle necked by credits. 
Barely beat MC even with the massive boost.
credit lacking is the lategame, although they've added more source of credits with the bones now
That's true. Champions Arena helps as well if your bets are correct.
@keen vapor yeah where are they 
My pull luck with Arknight today was incredible...
Average for 1 six star is 35.
Average for getting both event units is around 150-200.
But I got both in 37!!!!
My luck with nikke this month was also on July 3rd to MLB 2B in 126 pulls so it's fair. 
Just hoped I could get Elegg the MLB without using ticket.

coop rewards isn't until tomorrow
make it happen faster please. 

your bad luck with rocks has balanced out

Dining time. 
as you can see from the above, I might be a tad distracted
my pg13 family friendly game is distracting
Now go and MLB for Pinne while I skipping Doro.
maybe yan goes back in the sync
yan skin looks good at first but it’s… well
elaborate
while i play suika game
How does bay treasure work?
well u know, u ever had mussel in America or somewhere else that tastes awfully bad compared to the ones in Italy, it look identical from outside but much thiccer from inside, mix those 2 types of completely different yet apparently similar mussel and u get yan skin
brb
it doesn't at the moment, it's broken
wait for SU to fix before treasuring her
naruhodo
Yan is Chinese.
and

not sure we wanna hear that from someone who plays a chinese mobile romance game for mostly female audience, that combines elements of dating simulation with sci-fi RPG, catch le husbandos
are you even still playing that actually 
seems to be
try not to force sci-fi into worldview challenge
But non of the main characters in that game is a Chinese.
... *Love and Deepspace is a sci-fi game that also incorporates romance. It is an otome game, meaning it focuses on romantic relationships with male characters, but it is set in a futuristic world with elements of science fiction. The game features a futuristic city, mysterious alien creatures called Wanderers, and a superpower called Evol. Players take on the role of a Deepspace Hunter, battling these creatures alongside their love interests. *
TL;DR
date husbandos while sci-fi action

Tbh a lot of Korean style animu art suffer from this issue
Overly 2d flat face mixed with overly oily hyper3d body…


In China, it's normal to copy from the west and mixed them up.

I'm playing it for the scifi action. While finishing the log in for the free 5* Caleb dude card, they one I pair with my FMC to role play the manga duo.
For now.
no worry we still have tons of fanboy of ccp in the west, it’s doomed
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I meant, her swimsuit as you described feel suiting.
“I’m playing nikke for the gameplay, not for… well, doing dailies for the sake of doing so”
Suiting in a mixed bag of mussel sense yes
so how is tbay broken atm? her dmg sharing isn't working as it should only?

Yeah doesn’t block AoE
literally making us pay $60 for a repeat of summer helm 
“I PALY THIS GAME FOR PAY FOR EVERY GACHA SKIN”
b00bas sell well and the only thing that seems to work as intended after a patch is applied 
It's dating gameplay and conversation I skip. You could try to read them.
In that game, reading those date is 60% of the gameplay. I just left it on auto if needed to or not touching it. 
where are your hands while it's playing in auto 
Maybe u shouldn’t skip it so that you can discover your hidden interest
I go cook real food, swipe screen for comic or typing here.


Any tips on what to build against this because I’ve lost every match up till this point. This s also the lowest one I picked.
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helm not treasured and you're playing on deficit
Ur getting cp diff’d
It's normal if you played game that required long auto before. 
multiple enemy CP for 0.846 to find out if you're within CP requirement or not before submitting the teams
also post your box to see if this is somewat winnable
Farming Arknight for example. 10 minutes auto.
I used to put macro on Yu-Gi-Oh duel links for a half a day to farm events.
Ur bricked for pvp
Sw skin but sync 233
Should I just start a new account then?
Or just ignore arena. 
Only if u wanna mald arena
How bad are we talking here?
is helm still best treasure? just got her
Yes and no one is even close
can you arrange these teams and post screenshot of the matchups just to see the CP?
i think these are the best you can dish out atm, if somehow we make it to 15% deficit you might stand a chance
your teams are the ones on the left
pmaid drake crown raven jackal
noah alice grave trina moran
it's red flavour and blue flavour though
burnt 20 odd rocks on Helm today for basically nothing didn't even see CS appear
Yes I can, give me a few minutes and I will post them with you tagged.
oke thanks
Sugar treasure will have her beat, trust. 

Trust!


requirement to not be in deficit is 211k
you've 171k and 161k
no chance @shy blaze
So what do I need to do to get there? Is there something I’m not doing that’s causing this?
yeah your investiment is all over the place
it's neither pve or pvp oriented, seems quite mixed
how are we so far behind on CP? 😄
20 levels shouldn't be like double your CP
have you overloaded any of their gear?
233 with Emi is already kind of 🧱
if you actually want to try and attempt fixing this, these are the nikke you could consider improving
drake
helmt - needs treasure
moran
siren
rapu
RRH
cinderella
noah
naga
noir
scarlet
trina
jackal
centi
emilia
laplace - can consider treasure
noise
rumani
start with getting helm treasured, get cinderella noah scarlet trina jackal centi emilia rumani and noise to be usable
I started this account when the game first started. I didn’t know how to play really at the time so that’s why it’s all over the place. So would it be better to just start a new account and start over by scratch again?
usable means:
-check prydwen recommended skill book and OLs
-get them doll R15 minimun, ideally SR5
-get them all overloaded gear at least lvl 0
this will depend because it's hard to get some units and some are limited
and how much focus you have on pvp/pve
depends on what your target is, if being casual and just enjoying the game, you can do w/e
if you want a chance at rankings and pvp, yes starting over seems like your best bet
but frankly starting over sets you back a lot on account progression
How do I farm gear besides the daily thing you do?
you won't have siren, or emilia, or blah blah
ye ofc a choice he can make
no need to start over if he's having a good time as is
just forget about rankings and pvp altogether
you can still fix the pvp a bit but never to catch the top anymore
SPA?
special arena
special arena, the 3v3 mode
show your inventory as well please sir
I'd wager you may be a hoarder who just collects and never uses anything 😄
emilia on synchro 233 is already a bad sign either way, means he took breaks or regularly didn't play
yeah so the issue with starting again is...
you take any breaks you 🧱 once more
or you fail to keep up same thing
I’ve always been a casual player so if I just gotta give up on PvP then I’m okay with that. My goal now is how to get my campaign team up to par so I can progress the story cause I’m stuck there.
you can still compete where you are it's fine, just never near the top
but I think you'll struggle to stay near the top on a new account without the focus to push to get there
pls screenshot your inventory
Okay, so let’s take PvP off the table. I only cared about it because I thought I was missing out on some bonus stuff if I fine tuned it and started winning. But my main goal is to just be able to get through campaign.
the two aren't necessarily at odds with eachother
can you screenshot inventory you may well have stuff you should/could use I'd like to see
this relates to pve/campaign as well
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the consume tab (left one)
So who should I go for then?
less than I thought you had for things tbh
who is your main campaign team? if you posted above let me know I'll go find it
Any advice is good advice. I prefer folks to be blunt
we should focus your main campaign team
Me too
give me sticker
Soon™

Ive changed it up the last two days so im willing to change it up. For the longest while i had Moran, rapunzel, Alice, privaty maid, and crown.
your best campaign team is likely going to include at least:
Crown | Siren | Rapi RH
HelmT once treasured would likely be your best off-burst support
leaves you with a flex B3 dps spot
How do I get helms treasure?!?! I’ve heard a lot about that but I don’t know how.
Who would be a good flex unit?
Cinderella maybe for raw power
I'd say normal RH but you don't have her
Helm treasure you need bond level 30 and you need her doll at SR-15
How can I improve this sp arena squad?
Not yet, but I can get her there.
for the doll. use blue materials only to get her doll to R-15 level
don't use the purple or orange kits on a blue doll if you can avoid it
spam the blue kits until it's R-15
Redo from the ground
Noise viper anis Quency and Siren
position your team like this except put Rapi in the middle and run Cinderella instead of normal Red Hood
like so
Cool beans! Thanks again for all the help!

np we can do more, we can improve your main team as well
get HelmT doll to R-15 then please lay the team out like I showed and let's see the CP
Im all ears
take in steps do the above bit first and then show in the campaign team bit
can you show in the squad view? I can see the dolls better then please
oh no I can see them here as well lol
it's late forgive me 😄
Give me a sec
I don’t have one for her. Is there a way I can take one from another and give to her?
you can only combine or get them in solo raids
show your inventory bit for collection?
that is all your dolls
you could get one but it requires trading in 3 others, not ideal
I'd not do that, you need these
set your dispatch to these items on your daily outpost thing
How?
outpost bit then bulletin bit
Wait! I could decide on what they bring back?!
you can change the top one to dispatch a specific fav item material
little recycle icon
you get 3 per day
See, it’s crap like this I didn’t know about. I’m betting there is a plethora of other stuff I don’t know about that could accelerate this process.
undoubtedly so
I appreciate you helping me out here. You’re practically holding my hand at this point…
np 
if you're desperate for Helm fav item you could swap these 3 for a purple SR doll
I'd not swap the purple RL one, they're rare and good for pvp when you cycle back to it
otherwise we get a new solo raid in about a week - there you can get one if you can finish stage 7
Then I will focus on that then
otherwise yes there is more
get Rapi RH doll to R-15 as well, same process
blue materials only, pray for super success 
once that is done repeat for Cinderella (you can then apply the purple RL doll for hers to make it SR-5)
I think you may have enough blues there to do those
Sweet
let me know when you've done those
10-4
Can someone maybe do 5 teams for champion arena ?
nice one but you didn't need to take Cindy to SR-15 😄
I was going to suggest keeping extra materials to get Helm there next with the new solo raid
how many doll mats you got left?
I still have plenty for her
for SR-5 to SR-15 btw you shoud do those in a certain way as well
normally you want to use only blue/purples to get from SR-5 to SR-6, then you can start to use the orange kits if you want
same for the SR-10 to SR-11 jump. the orange kits get better when you are on a new rung
Oh! Didn’t know that either.
yeah I would have mentioned it but I thought you'd stop at SR-5 😄
not to worry
nothing critical
I still have over 300 blues though.
blues are easier to get by far, purples/oranges are the rarer ones
they're better for the blue doll jumps, and the first rung at SR-5 or SR-10
Do I use them one at a time or in bulk?
I just hit max when I do it, ideally I have enough to spark a whole level
from SR-5 to SR-6 it's 150 blues
or 100 blues / 20 purples etc
right next is skills
what skill levels is everyone at?
you're missing core units for SG team (rosanna, drake in particular)
think you can run 4 proper teams at least though
not bad gonzo - all 5 units are basically 10/10/10 units except for Cindy is happy on 10/7/10
should be fine i got draketreasure to but rosanna and drake are both without ol gear
so your mission is to get them all to 10/10/10 (Cindy 10/7/10) - prioritise Rapi RH up from the 7's
what's rosanna skill levels?
i just wanted to update basically the champion arena teams since mine are pretty bad
well you've a decent pool
4/4/4 it should be right now
oof that's far from usable
can do a 4RL cope slow cindy team
since you've midhara decently invested
CA is just a flex mode, you don't actually need to
could sdoro work on pvp?
although if you really want to, SG team offers a lot of counters to several archetypes while also punishing teams with single B1/B2
i mean sure
gonzo what is the gear situation like? it seems like you may be lacking in overloaded gear or good overload lines
tbh i just want the frames and my teams right now are not that updated ig i just copied the winner but i lose most of the fight or all of them
Glad it was maid mast but still...

ok i got something out of it
thanks Railtracer
your bread winners are going to be T1 and T2, T3 has somewat ok chances, T4 is a bit cope version of usual sg team but has pressure (you can replace mari with naga for more SG pressure), T5 is a bit special, will work against some archetypes
ensure you get those cubes on as many units as possible
and consider bringing rosanna to 7/10/10, 4OL, SR5
i'm running T5 in this CA for lols 😄
getting drakeT instead of noir is also a good choice if you wanna add odds
but she needs to be on 4OL
alright i will try do have it ready for next ca
the ideal SG team if you plan to finish it properly
drakeT bsoda naga/viper(phase2) rosanna noir
poli treasure could also be used if you plan to invest in her
ok then opt for naga instead of viper
or keep mari for buffs
use whichever is better built
alright
It's why I like her character.

Can any one suggest a good team/s to go against this one?
What units do you have
@dim escarp you buy rapi skin?
I just checked Poli's treasure, is she viable in pvp for maybe stall team?
it was an instant east buy xD
or like to counter sbs team
Send without the menu please 
sadly I m far from my pc but tomorrow for sure 
Ok no worries

Hello everyone I want to update my teams a bit for CA here what I was thinking of doing
Replace Biscuit in Nero Moran team with Mana
Put Biscuit with Noah again
Switch Rosanna shotgun team or T5 to fit Pascal in ?
Do these options sound okay or am I heading in the wrong direction?
It continues to go well. Team one beat a 60k deficit, team 3 was even. (Team 2 was no chance, it was their primary)
I think that's too much of a deficit lmao
How is new Dorothy in PVP?
She's SG, what you're asking
Oh god, I actrually qualified for Champions Arena, someone help me
No, I don't have Rumani 
Stall needs 2nd burst 3, Biscuit with Noah is still the best choice coz SG can beat Biscuitless Cindy comp
and I don't know why even MAnchor in SG comp
So im bricked 
I see I'll change those around then and yeah Manchor was mostly cope trying to keep it 3rl and not knowing who to put but ill change it
Viper non T3, or Poli T best slot
lobby worth 
God tier lobby but will make me re cook CA... i was done

bricked up? 
surely ninja patch to fix bug right after teams lock 
Thank you! 
Imma just go with a bricked bay in CA, copium team is the way
yeah but is she a good burst gen SG or somethin? does she excel compared to others or on par?
I don't think she's clip SG
ah, a shame 
well, cooking CA teams not much people does it , i can not say i will . For now try to cook some teams and share them here
Normal SG
Shucks, ty. im just seeing if i can improve CA SG team
Invest in Bunny Soda, Drake, Noir Viper and Rosanna
you see, I have 1 invested
(Noir)
I was considering investing Drake since the new Tove Treasure tho
my noir is 4 OL lvl 5 all gear with all lines filled and S15 
I used her in Campaign a lot
Drake needs OL and favorite but so does Tove 
I get so unlucky with puppets that I only have HelmT and thats it

I have no idea wtf I cobbled together
Scarlet/Trina/Siren/Helm/Jackal
Can use Centi instead of Helm honestly
Oh, thank you. Also, sorry for yhe late reply, I'm at work.
Much appreciated.
Did I make these changes correctly?
I don't have Poli or Viper treasured yet so I just put in Viper without

You need Rumani in Cindy comp as Noise back up if she's died from SG attacker
Nice wallpaper
Oh alright so switching the two would be fine right?
This tove. Should i? 
No not yet
You use golden kits on phase eleven
or six but you're beyond that
Should use blue/purple to exp pad until phase11, before feeding gold @livid marsh
Ok then
Generally, exp pad
lv5->6 with blue/purple
lv10->lv11 with blue purple
Use 1-2 gold on lv6/11, If no Super Success, use blue/purple to get to lv7/12

Wait, I just keep using gold kits over and over till it works 
Good for you 
That explains why I have less maxed dolls than @umbral crown 
I once got super success at lv 10 use blue
Rosy just have crazy luck. He starts from SR0
Insane 
Nah, for reference Cindy comp is Noise Noah Biscuit Cindy Rumani
Noise is a must to prevent Siren stun to Noah and Rumani is a back up when Noise die against SG comp
You've been here so actively that I feel you can actually cook 
What you currently have on
I wonder if Poli phase 3 activates her skill at the beginning of the battle
Since now it's a "passive"

Wth, pure Rapunzel and 160 on July 2025 
seems like cope, but I haven't seen anyone with p3 yet to actually test
Is not cope, trust 
I have enough for phase 3, but i think Tove has a priority for the moment
I don't want to waste it on a "maybe"
SBS/Blanc/RH/Anis/Jackal
Rumani/Cinderella/Bay/Drake/Noise
Auto team

Ah okay so it’s for the extra protection from both counters I’ll keep that in mind going forward thank you again
I need 1 team again bro

Use first for rookie
I don't play pvp bro i just make team and forget
hello can someone help me update my teams in SP arena?
these are my teams rn
no emilia but I recently got trina so I can use her now
I said use first team on rookie/press auto for third team
Thanks u

Their PVP system is 💩
@sleek imp Time to cook
It's the worst I've ever played.
They stick you in these super small groups where refreshing is damn near pointless. Power level is almost pointless to display.
That roster is so smexy
I'd rather have better searching and collect and fewer points by winning over a lower level player than be forced half the time to match up against players with higher levels.
I also really hate PVP, so this system just elevates my hatred for PVP in mobile games.
she either does or she doesnt






