pvp-arena

[summer copper]

coop?

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Eureka!

[umbral belfry]

I should shake you just for saying that

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

I remember we had this conversation before. So if you played limbus company you could comeback for the Collab in September.... Was it you that I had this conversation with? You didn't miss the event.

Man, Arknight is the only gacha game I have seen that did tons of one way Collab and got nothing for their player in return.

[oblique ridge]

Now if you miss Coordinated Operations, you’re ||boned||

[swift mango]

Guess they got some cash from that just like Anime IP that got money from gacha game Collab

[swift mango]

What do you mean?

[oblique ridge]

I worded it poorly, but collab events bring a resources heavy Coordinated Operation which now also awards Rusted Bones. Lots of maintenance kits and T9M selector shards, and/or credits + gear exp

Imagine missing a collab event

Even if you wanted to skip all the units, that’s a massive resource skip

[swift mango]

Well, it was another game Collab, not this game

[oblique ridge]

Oh. Limbus collab?

… with Arkknights

[swift mango]

Only doll kits being most valued... And they are cheap.

[oak gale]

yo this works right? @swift mango

[swift mango]

probably not

[umbral belfry]

why are you running sbs into noah bisc :(

[oak gale]

my brain aint brainin rn 💀 i dont remember what orientation was my teams in to atk him

maybe if i put cinderella against cinderella it will work or nah?

[umbral belfry]

Could just 2 rl scar t1 and either noah bisc t2 or 2 rl noah cindy t3

[swift mango]

1-2 is likely to fail.

check if

Scar+Trina+SBS+Centi+Jackal having enough CP to hit their t2

SBS is just there for the CP flex

[umbral belfry]

the chinese mafia the moment nuri hits one of their members

https://tenor.com/view/xenoverse-goku-super-saiyan-angry-dbz-gif-1416275111944307575

[oak gale]

💀 oh boi

[oblique ridge]

Enemy’s Cindy has good odds of winning, because Noah has 10s Attract buff during her burst, with 3s Team Invincible and then Biscuit Invincible procs being possible. Your BScarlet has an uphill fight against this team and is likely to not teamwipe in time before Indomitable wears off.

And when it’s not Noah, it’s Rumani taunting the BScarlet Assuming Noise isn’t stealing taunt from basic attacks

[swift mango]

If you wanted team 3 to sure win

Noah+Biscuit+Cindy+HelmT+Rumani

There you have 2-3 win

[oak gale]

-> failed

my original team alignment worked- f me

[umbral belfry]

they're on your ass 😭

[swift mango]

sorry to here that. Did you check the CP?

[oak gale]

they were already 💀 i wanted to take ch2 then ch1 bc the guy in my bracket took me down and still lost his position ,i knew the alignment worked before but i wanted to check here aaaaaand i ended up failing sof it , ch2 good enough

[swift mango]

My suggestion is sure win unless you don't have the cp.

[umbral belfry]

i'll pray for you

[oak gale]

have the cp , all units mentioned are built

brother what- @umbral belfry

[tropic summit]

[placid bloom]

they were waiting for you

[umbral belfry]

LMFAOOOOO

[tropic summit]

ninja'ed

[placid bloom]

you gotta swing closer to the cutoff time

[umbral belfry]

maybe that's counting your points instead? i'm not sure actually

[tropic summit]

always change ur def at 1 minute prior to reset

[placid bloom]

you did it too early

no, it's ending position

[oak gale]

ye it is

[umbral belfry]

if that's actual non-point placement though, they were on your ass i told you 😭

[placid bloom]

you just swung too early and they had time to swing back

[umbral belfry]

nuri in CA

[tropic summit]

you can attack 20 seconds roughly prior to reset

even if you're off a few seconds, it counts

i'm clearly not speaking from experience of doing it

[umbral belfry]

i'll pray for you come reset nuri, bc you're 100% getting jumped 😭

[gritty ridge]

Can you run 4 part burst if youre 1.8 rl?

[umbral belfry]

yippie gems

[tropic summit]

funds for the nero raid boss

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

I do know 10 sec before reset is too late for the servers to sim the fight because I failed before

but 15-20 sec should be safe

[grim grove]

The last second attack is BS I’m in second on and off all week and second in coins 30 second before arena reset and they attacked me at the last second and kicked me all the way to fifth

[oak gale]

i always am 💀 but i dont have 2 other teams built

[umbral belfry]

oof

[tropic summit]

i've been regularly doing it 20s prior, always worked

[umbral belfry]

you sneaky snipers

thank god my bracket doesn't resort to that

[tropic summit]

match doesn't need to end, it only needs to register, which is around as soon as it starts

or in particular after calculation

[placid bloom]

I know 20 is safe, Idk if 15 is safe

[tropic summit]

yes until they find this chat or google

[placid bloom]

but they probably don't have time to swing back even if you swing at 20 before

[grim grove]

That’s not true at all I always beat this one guy and a timed out in the middle of the fight

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

15 is safe on season end reset, risky on non-season reset

[umbral belfry]

if i'm sniped they will force my whale hand

https://tenor.com/view/xenoverse-goku-super-saiyan-angry-dbz-gif-1416275111944307575

[swift mango]

So what was the result of your lost.

[tropic summit]

good, come to the dark side

[umbral belfry]

you'll never catch me alive playing your waifu horse running game

[swift mango]

Probably only play for a bit.

[tropic summit]

if you DC during loading screen that's a different matter, match needs to calculate to go in, you can crash once it did

[tropic summit]

well game is kinda grindy

[oak gale]

lose team 1 , win team 2 , lose team 3

[grim grove]

So if you use quick match, you’re technically always loading

[oak gale]

@tropic summit also im only missing one ol gear from rosanna , is she only gonna help me in 1v1 or is she gonna be useful in 3v3?

[tropic summit]

quick match and regular match are the same, they both are calculated the same way, in one case you watch the "replay" as soon as match is done calculating, in the other you can either watch it or not at all

[tropic summit]

rosanna is good in anything

[swift mango]

Is there rerolling advantage ?

[tropic summit]

be it rookie, SParena or CA

[tropic summit]

ye i had to reroll for 2-3hrs, but it's not entirely mandatory

[grim grove]

I know that what does that have to do with saying you could still win as long as you start the match it’ll count

[tropic summit]

I don't understand what you're trying to say

[oak gale]

so hopefully if i get the last geat set up alongside the 40% atk i can ask u for the 3v3 teams etc?

[tropic summit]

you can ask the chat ye

i'm not necessarely goona be online

[oak gale]

a8

[grim grove]

You said match doesn’t need to end. It only needs to register and I said that’s not true.

[oak gale]

its right now the only time i open nikke dw 💀

[tropic summit]

ye that's incorrect, once match is calculated, it goes through even if you DC after the replay started

but if you DC prior to calculation, it won't go off

[swift mango]

So I was commander, Captain, doctor and now trainer.

[tropic summit]

shikikan

didn't you also become an adventurer?

[grim grove]

Right, so you need to finish the match before it will count you cannot get in a match that you know you will always win in the last five seconds and it count

[tropic summit]

yeah you can't scam out of a match essentially

[swift mango]

it basically commander

[tropic summit]

@swift mango the question is how long it will take for you to burn out from playing uma musume tho

also the pvp is gonna suck unless you whale so don't bother

the gameplay itself is pretty fun tho

[swift mango]

probably not long. I probably would delete it then try love and deep space later.

[placid bloom]

Blood shoujo gamer now

[tropic summit]

jesus christ what a jump of type

you gonna stare at handsome korean-looking male models

maybe blood really is a female streamer

[placid bloom]

wait that game has combat, I thought it was just dating sim

[tropic summit]

it's a dating sim with some combat

[placid bloom]

I am learning

[swift mango]

What does this even do?

[tropic summit]

just name and gender, dw it's irrelevant

[swift mango]

So we don't have gender related avatar.

[tropic summit]

not that i know

you can set uma musume as avatar

also the peculiarity of this game is that you'll want to roll good support cards over actual playable characters

[swift mango]

Got your scarlet first try.

[tropic summit]

you'll want to start with either of these 2 found in your first 4-5 rolls

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

ye she's a starter, all-rounder

[swift mango]

Should I reroll?

[tropic summit]

yep you gotta find either of the 2 above not the characters

[swift mango]

Got her too.

[tropic summit]

you'll want to try finding these

scenario 1 or 2 is good enough to start playing

[swift mango]

Are these 2 rainbow rather than gold?

[tropic summit]

ye SSR over SR

as for the actual characters, the umas, you'll be rolling for them later down the road, any character can be built to be broken

some are easier to train, some are harder

but all can become broken

[swift mango]

So SR is 2 star and SSR is 3 stars? first 5 rolls are RNG and could net you more than 1 x 3 star or zero?

[grim grove]

Does anyone know any pros that can help me? I’m talking about someone over 450 cause that’s my current level and I’ve been playing for two years.

[swift mango]

2 year and 450 is bricked.

[grim grove]

Well, technically like two and four months

[swift mango]

golden 🧱

[grim grove]

The only thing I buy are outfits I don’t pay for rolls

[tropic summit]

the good thing is that you can reroll really fast in this game, takes about 5 mins at worse

[sleek imp]

that means i get to partake CA correct?

[tropic summit]

start game, get rewards, roll, bad roll = delete data and restart

[tropic summit]

ye you qualified

[sleek imp]

yippie

[swift mango]

I mean do what I said true?

[grim grove]

You made my accounts bricked ?

[swift mango]

you account is level bricked

[tropic summit]

ye i started with 4 SSR, 1 was the ideal SSR, other 3 were just dumb luck

[grim grove]

Yeah, I’m not trying to get first, but I’m literally 25 levels above second and he still keeps passing me up

First is a complete whale like everything is max corse not trying to beat him lol

[tropic summit]

@swift mango is 3 or 4 times CA winner, i think you're talking to the right person

then again keep in mind defenses on near sync on same pvp knowledge is generally impossible, as losing on attack is the attacker mistake

[swift mango]

I'm not 450 at 2.4 years of play.

[tropic summit]

1.5 years?

[grim grove]

Do you buy all of the event extra tickets with gems in order to get more cores?

[swift mango]

I'm only a little 421 at 1 year and 4 month old.

[tropic summit]

👶 🍼

[swift mango]

need 1 year play to get 30 more level.

[tropic summit]

true idle game experience

[tropic summit]

p2p buy the monthly packs to earn better core income iirc

[swift mango]

everyone do. Unless you dislike Arena reward.

but too late for you now

[tropic summit]

but ye f2p should clean out the store tries to maximize on the red boxes

[grim grove]

I swear to God, I don’t buy anything except gacha skins and the monthly box

[grim grove]

Yeah, I even get rid of extra battle data for cores only thing I don’t do is refresh dispatch missions to try to get all corses like some people do

[grim grove]

Why is it too late for me? Can you explain that?

[solid gorge]

yaaay 2k

[swift mango]

2 year and 4 month old player should be in 541 synch level range now if you aren't bricked

[grim grove]

Let me look at the exact date I started playing

[tropic summit]

this game punishes heavily inactivity

[swift mango]

Try to get to rank 50 now for some SpA gem if you wanted. it's good enough.

[tropic summit]

at least, pvp wise and progression wise you're now far behind

can still play the game although, just forget about ranking in general

[grim grove]

I’m in second all week except for the last five minutes that’s what’s pissing me off

Ond in arena tokens

[swift mango]

you mean C2? Maybe something wrong here with your starting date.

[swift mango]

screenshot you arena reward mail

[grim grove]

Yeah, I think it was around red Hood or right after neir

[grim grove]

Fifth place 2700 gems

Yeah, I lied. Start date is December 2023.

[swift mango]

It just mean, you didn't hold C2 long enough and got kicked down most the time.

[grim grove]

It’s not the fact that the dude is literally waiting till the last 15 seconds to beat me and then I get kicked to fifth

[oblique ridge]

Battle points are earned for every hour you hold your rank. It's something ShiftUp added to mitigate last minute sniping from mattering as much.

Doen't stop daily sniping right before daily reset, RIP...

Or right before maintenance.

There's even people that determine your play schedule and snipes right after you log off for the night and day. Definitely not something I'd do

[swift mango]

You got kicked to 5th the whole season. So your point was 5th.

you probably held 2nd 1-2 hours a day.

[north brook]

Yeah if u lose once ud still have more points, sniping doesnt matter much

Do u check how long u hold rank?

[grim grove]

That’s what I’m confused by though my tokens is in second and my rank is in second and I literally have I think 3000 more tokens or something than every player under me and at the last second I get beat. I think I just have a shty team and the only reason I’m winning is because I’m 20 levels higher and I get lucky my

[tropic summit]

sniping at end of season = better starting position for next season
sniping during season = force opponent to waste gems if you 2-2 each others

[severe nimbus]

placement means nothing. SA is king of the hill as in you hold a spot for x amount of time and that determines your final ranking.
you hold 2nd for 2 hours
vs
another person holds 2nd for 3 hours.

the other person gets 2nd.
people also dont always collect their tokens during season, and just let it auto collect at the end

[north brook]

Ya better strat to cook good enough teams that they stop attacking u

[oblique ridge]

Actually, that's a dumb flaw of the battle tokens... you can't really "lose" battle tokens, I heard, they're all automatically collected once SPA season ends.

That means there can be someone who refuses to collect for all 14 days, and it'll skyrocket them to their actual battle points rank once the SPA season ends.

[swift mango]

it's because they didn't claim theirs. You look like the sniper here, claiming this late, not them.

[oblique ridge]

To a lesser extent, it can mean they didn't collect in the past 24 hours, so you think you ranked higher than you actually are

[fast jetty]

anyone wanna guess where my last one is? ..

[grim grove]

I thought you have to claim them once a day or they don’t build up or something once it gets to 100% kind of like outpost rewards

[oblique ridge]

There's one on the right in that little room. Idk if you got it already though

[swift mango]

It's right next to the soda machine near the mini game.

[tropic summit]

under your bed

[severe nimbus]

the pvp currency caps at 9999 and would need to be claimed, but the tokens for rankings do not have a cap and thus dont need to be claimed

[grim grove]

I do my dailies every day at 2:30 which to me is 30 minutes before refresh and I collect my tokens on arena and do my runs and that’s when I check it and it says I’m second in both. I don’t think I’m sniping anybody isn’t that when you wait till the last second

[oblique ridge]

That is true of the arena exchange vouchers - those are lost if they reach maximum capacity.

But battle points, nope.

That 100% Mustang Cat thing is super misleading

[grim grove]

Oh, I had no idea

[grim grove]

Yeah, which I have an absolute ton of as long as I got enough to buy all of the element upgrade material. I don’t use the rest actually I could probably go a long time without even needing that either.

My point coming here was to try to build a better team, but I can’t show you my team right now because it’s in reset. I really think I just don’t have an optimal team compared to my units. I have no idea how to build the arena teams

[fast jetty]

wrong channel rip

[fast jetty]

yeah
it is the collapsed bridge (click on soda it will tell)
it is actually a collapsed road/railroad, north to the machine

🙏

[grim grove]

So even toward the last day, they don’t need to be claimed they automatically get claimed when the season ends? I never really cared about arena. I didn’t realize how many gems I was losing out on until recently.

[swift mango]

My first account got zero 3 stars.

[swift mango]

you didn't really lose honestly rank 5 for someone who doesn't care about Arena with doesnt have high synch level is good enough.

[tropic summit]

time to get rerollin'

[grim grove]

The highest syn level in my bracket is 470 mine is 450 I never said I don’t care about arena. I said I didn’t until a few months ago.

I would like a chance to try championship mode

[swift mango]

you should probably start buying out event ticket for the 4 hour core dust stage every event so you could synch gap your bracket before long.

[grim grove]

I do that, but I’m pretty sure they’re pay to win that’s why I just wanna come in second I’m already 20 levels above the next person under me but somehow they beat me consistently or I guess I’m just not holding the second position long enough

That’s why I wanted to maybe update my team to see if there’s anything I could change

[swift mango]

you need good investment and good def team to win with just 20 synch gap.

You probably want 40-60 synch gap to be safe from being attacked if you don't have enough arena investment.

otherwise, it's tug of war if you can't def.

need to out log in or gem them or both

[grim grove]

Yeah, to be honest with you, I use attack and defense as the same teams. I didn’t think it made a difference. As long as I’ve beat the other team, but I can’t hold second at all

[swift mango]

you could try to post your box here sorted by power andso @tropic summit would cook good def team ps for you.

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/lynyrd-skynyrd-gif-17467036326403791114

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

[grim grove]

Yeah, I don’t wanna bother anyone lol I was just hoping for someone to look at my account and tell me what I need to change not someone necessarily trying to build a whole team for me. I’ll show you what I use when arena opens back up though.

[tropic summit]

nono you're not bothering anyone, just Blood clearly delegating his job

but ye post your box with nikke ordered by strength

i can take a look while i'm training horse grills

[shell hazel]

whilst listening to freebird

[shell hazel]

nah he's just outsourcing

[tropic summit]

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-knife-gif-13655503135447721047

[shell hazel]

kraken kraken on the wall who has the most rocks of them all

[tropic summit]

not you

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/falcon-sam-wilson-outta-line-but-gif-22091662

[cedar orbit]

are you guys winning?

[tropic summit]

depends at what

[swift mango]

Arena wise, I did. not at beating my c1 though

[swift mango]

not you either. And obviously not me.

[tropic summit]

~~i've got decent amount of rocks lately, it's scary. ~~

[swift mango]

be safe at home.

[tropic summit]

i'm not leaving my house tomorrow

that's 4 sure

oh wait then maybe a meteor...

[swift mango]

Maybe a drunk truck hit your house. Air plane falling down. Gas explosion.

[eager mountain]

[tropic summit]

[eager mountain]

horse girl

This is too much for me

[tropic summit]

surprisingly more amusing than i expected

[eager mountain]

more amusing, or more er*tic then expected

[tropic summit]

game is very vanilla tho

best you get is maybe a scene in the hotsprings

[eager mountain]

ship girl somehow makes more sense to me

[tropic summit]

android girls, archon girls, ship girls, horse girls

[vapid lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1332646076519284759/1389557404706013194/cy8gHS1X95x0N1BT.mp4?ex=68650dae&is=6863bc2e&hm=60751615985703a263f31603c9ba434633024205bb17ef0fae432b2cc1a2daa4&

[eager mountain]

I don’t even like watching sports or Olympics

I ain’t falling for this

[tropic summit]

but what about animu girls that you grow from weak to stronk?

[eager mountain]

If it’s weak to stronk in er*tic sense

[tropic summit]

[eager mountain]

[tropic summit]

that's a different kind of simulator and genre

although i know what you talking about

[eager mountain]

[tropic summit]

@eager mountain this mad man, @swift mango, was talking about trying love and deep space

[eager mountain]

…

[vapid lake]

[eager mountain]

how did we not know he’s h*mo this entire time

[tropic summit]

at least the protag can be made looking pretty cute

although then you're surrounded by sausages

[eager mountain]

maybe he should try nikki then

[eager mountain]

And cucumbers

[vapid lake]

nikki already burned down because of bad dev

[tropic summit]

well that didn't last long

[vapid lake]

and it only took 1 update to turn the entire playerbase against them

[tropic summit]

4D chess move, in reverse

[vapid lake]

nikke is only 1 letter away from nikki, we'll be the same if shiftup's recent fk ups continue

[tropic summit]

just release another juicy 2D skin, the community then easily forgets the game is barely better than a budget indie game

[eager mountain]

[tropic summit]

[eager mountain]

Simply just release liberalio

Ez, every problem solved

[tropic summit]

not gonna happen anytime soon will it

[eager mountain]

now the only thing I care about this game is to check new campaign updates, no liberalio again, zzz

[tropic summit]

side idle game

play 1 or 2 times in months, rest of the time login to logout asap

[vapid lake]

same, me barely play nikke now, playing other things or touching grass

[eager mountain]

I still claim most daily rewards, therefore the algo will consider me as an active player

[tropic summit]

ah yes very active

as active as it takes to be done with dailies

[eager mountain]

and I actually tried to get into coop top 10% in jp

Guess how long it took

[tropic summit]

1 try and got fed up with it

[eager mountain]

1+ freaking hour cuz it’s jp

[tropic summit]

i'm glad there's plenty of lads for global coops, most of the time 1st try and you're well around 1%

[eager mountain]

And mf keep tossing freaking siren as b1

In water gatekeeper

Even if they don’t think what rouge does at least they should use rapi over siren for higher dmg thx to that smol core and lack of mg carrying siren dmg

And when someone pick rapi as b1 the rest panik and get another b1

[tropic summit]

sounds like great time

[eager mountain]

brain dmg

[tropic summit]

how about:

-finding some coop lobbies instead, surely there's a discord server or something
-use chatgpt to speak fluent japanese, get close buddies with those lads, become best friendos
-find out one of them is a cute grill who cosplays as liberalio
-eventually get very close, meet and marry
-finally get her to play coop with you and to run a proper B1

objective completed

[eager mountain]

The new coop simply shows how important crown is once again

Cuz not everyone gonna have optimal dps or off burst, low sync’s only choice to not sabotage the team is to bring crown

[tropic summit]

randoms will be randoms

need le coop lobbies or it's cancerino

i tried random lobbies for 3 days in a row, was pretty clear to me what i had to do

[eager mountain]

and the jp coop channel is dead here

[tropic summit]

it's bayover

[eager mountain]

optimal

[eager mountain]

I would ping this if I have admin

Tho I turned out to be the one running b1 cuz I wanna force rouge

[vapid lake]

why not go nikke JP discord

[eager mountain]

And thus I’m a cute animu cosplay girl

[tropic summit]

if he gets desperate enough he will

[eager mountain]

Oh yeah I joined there for once and left cuz it’s hella inactive

[tropic summit]

[eager mountain]

I’ll be desperate enough to join a line group chat with broken or gpt Japanese

[tropic summit]

lmao

now that's an option i didn't consider

[fiery parcel]

Good morning. I missed CA by a few hundred points i think

[vapid lake]

Nothing of value was lost

[vapid lake]

The devs dont care about ca, why should u still beta season tf? And nothing changed

[tropic summit]

arrange le teams, pray, profit best mode 10/10

[eager mountain]

We will have 69 beta seasons

[tropic summit]

their effort in CA was as good as their effort in unique SR bosses with recolour

[vapid lake]

I have a feeling most people have already mentally checked out and dont bother changing team anymore

[eager mountain]

And my spa will still be cursed by that time

[vapid lake]

I dont even analyze the cheers myself anymore it's so done

[tropic summit]

it is quite indeed like so

[vapid lake]

I just follow majority vote now so lazy to think

[tropic summit]

reletable

i only predict matches of lads i've known

[eager mountain]

Su should be working on a new games already

[vapid lake]

Back to horse girl game

[tropic summit]

BAKUSHIN

speeeeeeeeeed

[vapid lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1353582790582734901/1389015401760948416/FDownloader.Net_AQPhqSwQvvXbc3YIenlgsxyTFbe-UYxv6vKAU-1sVPG0lsKuO-IIh6bhPdK0XLfp5xE_Sy14HMovb90ULZ30mM-l_720p_HD.mp4?ex=68650f26&is=6863bda6&hm=90423263474d93b05e24e17de0380a2d6335533adc0fe304f46b237614e73aec&

[eager mountain]

Which would return in more cashmoney instead of putting more effort in nik when the game already established decent playerbase

1-3 extra yr of lifespan isn’t worth for them

[tropic summit]

just wait for the chibi massive open world surface explore mode

[vapid lake]

Yea they making sb2 and project AI-generated artwork spirit

[tropic summit]

just make nikke FPS and we gud

[vapid lake]

Why put effort in nikke when playerbase think with their bottom head and buy swimsuit gacha skin

[eager mountain]

chibi genshin

[vapid lake]

Even if game has no content and constantly fk up updates

[tropic summit]

oh my god i couldn't have said it better

release skin: sheeps buy, game profits, code broken, filled of bugs, no actual new gameplay, rinse and repeat

marketing team must be confused themselves on how this wizardry works

but god forbid actually doing something about it

[vapid lake]

nikke has been like that like the past year if u strip away all the skins and events theres no substantial update to the base game

[tropic summit]

they'll teach about this marketing strategy years to come

min cost, max profit

[eager mountain]

it makes perfect sense for them to consider us the playerbase as ret*rded

[tropic summit]

absolutely, by all means

the more each days passes, the more i'm glad of my 0 cents spent policy on gachas

at this point i'm just watching the world burn money on these games

[vapid lake]

i dont regret the money i spent on this, it gave me enjoyment during the time i was paying

i stopped giving su money recently because of all this shit

[eager mountain]

and burn half of the paycheck on streamers and useless or forced monthly subscriptions

[vapid lake]

that also means im gonna fall behind in sync lvls in pvp, i dun care anymore

[tropic summit]

if it was money for your happiness, money well spent sir

[vapid lake]

the other guys are still buying 30 day supply, i havent renewed mine

[tropic summit]

you finally stopped selling your soul to the corp

[vapid lake]

i never spent much tbh

the only 2 things i bought were the 2 30 day supply things, i just thought of it like a subscription fee to keep playing

[tropic summit]

i honestly feel pity for those lads, it's like a slope they can't possibly ever recover from, because:

-if you stop spending it will be all for nothing
-if you keep spending it only gets worse

[vapid lake]

like WoW back in the day

think my total spending is like still under $200 USD

[eager mountain]

3 games worth of cash

[tropic summit]

wew that's mild

[vapid lake]

games nowadays are trash not worth buying so who cares

[tropic summit]

i remember the first year of fate/GO, the spenders were around 2.000$ dollars spent on banners

[eager mountain]

@tropic summit is p3r trash

[eager mountain]

And fgo is still among the bestseller in jp

[tropic summit]

ye insane

truly a masterpiece of marketing and baiting

with one of the worst banner logic ever released in gacha gaming

[vapid lake]

sorry my taste in games very selective, i dont have any feelings for persona series

[eager mountain]

I’ll be waiting on rail’s p3r review

10000 words minimum

spam each count as one word

[tropic summit]

i actually haven't been too active in this discord for the past months, catching up on SPs, animu and VNs

i need vacations

[vapid lake]

like i dont think stellar blade is even worth the $70usd they asking for on steam havent bought it yet

[eager mountain]

SPs?

[tropic summit]

singleplayerando

RPGs for the most part

[eager mountain]

u didn’t finish p3r yet?

[tropic summit]

...

[tropic summit]

things happened

[tropic summit]

don't judge me...

but eventually...

[eager mountain]

and you didn’t get to start just like some of my games in shelf

I need to finish those games as well ugh….

[tropic summit]

shelf gets bigger and bigger, yet less and less time

i've enough money to take multiple sabbatic years but the safety of having a career is probably better

[eager mountain]

it’s called retirement game savings

[tropic summit]

how do we even get to retirement age

waaaaay too long ahead

[eager mountain]

Stack thousands games that will fill up the entirety of retirement

[tropic summit]

[eager mountain]

Just to know that they all gonna be on steam and gonna cost $5 each by the time

[tropic summit]

time to bakushin the f out of this

[eager mountain]

all i can think of is er*tic training especially in fate sense.
The logic where sexu@l activity can help recovering mp. Oh dear

[tropic summit]

you'd like this

the fruit of your work at the final race is satisfying

mf 4 procs at the end adrenaline

now to get absolutely crap sparks anyway

[atomic wolf]

play peak

[swift mango]

"The otherworld is tough for mob" MC is not gay and he still played those. I just need to experience.

[tropic summit]

tell us how it feels to flirt with handsome men

[swift mango]

Probably just another "pick a line" game. But there are also battle system.

I'm interested in its space soldiers lore though

[eager mountain]

Bed battle with your husbando

[swift mango]

nah, it's not going that far. No gacha going that far, not even nikke

[eager mountain]

Well… nikke… you know…

[wild patio]

@loud sonnet

[loud sonnet]

For some reason I end up rank 5

[wild patio]

I stole hsy's place that stole your place

[loud sonnet]

No the final since I've been sitting on c4 for like 7-10 days

[wild patio]

maybe this ranking is what it counts to get to CA?

[loud sonnet]

Needs to be rank 4

So hsy gets CA

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-gif-12253442062695531197

[swift mango]

https://comick.io/comic/ageku-no-hate-no-kanon

This series just happened to be one of my favorite and I used to play PSO2.

Wish there was more of the scifi soldier theme around.

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/canon-event-lochan-bwefi-lochan-bwefi-spiderman-gif-1748690152864391590

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/サクラバクシンオー-ウマ娘-ミニキャラ-かわいい-ダンス-gif-24011503

bakushin bakushin bakushin

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Nikke doesn't count. The MC isn't even a soldier.

[tropic summit]

it's on 24/7

[tropic summit]

golden ultra bricked

nvm he claimed

[sleek imp]

[raven plover]

how many gems he has now, 350k?

[vapid lake]

Damn wat a whel 🐳

[swift mango]

Maybe being bricked help his gacha luck.

@keen vapor

Is it just me or you haven't pulled SB Collab?

[umbral crown]

When he sees a golden brick it triggers something inside

[umbral crown]

He is skipping

[eager mountain]

🧱

[umbral crown]

🧱

[tropic summit]

🧱

[eager mountain]

I have more then 1000 pulls of gem and tons of tickets…

[vapid lake]

Tbh both units are bait and skip is fine

[eager mountain]

Pulling or not doesn’t really matter much to me now but since it’s collab I pulled

[swift mango]

I was only going for 60%

[eager mountain]

Also raven looks far better then what she looks in sb, from img search

[tropic summit]

she does indeed

[eager mountain]

stall reit team

[swift mango]

She need 60% and bastion so she doesn't reload during Blanc duration from 2rl

Now with 85% she surely doesn't reload at all

[eager mountain]

well… just whatever ammo that prevents her from reloading after blanc duration in various 1.7rl to 3 rl comp… ig

[swift mango]

Should I blue lock the Ammo line and try to get line 2 ATK/Ele?

[eager mountain]

u should’ve done that before rerolling %

Tho ele doesn’t matter much…

It’s a freaking ar and iron p1 isn’t that common

[swift mango]

But it wasn't black line 3

[swift mango]

It helps to kill Rapu in Nero Moran Stall team.

[eager mountain]

I got helm to more then enough ammo to shot all 10 shots without reload after burst

[swift mango]

[eager mountain]

tho not like I’ve touched PvP for once, for like 2 months

[gritty ridge]

Tia have any use in arena?

[swift mango]

My helm Zero Ammo so she could trigger her Crit buff to my LapT or Emi who actually deals more DMG.

[eager mountain]

niche asf, if double buff doesn’t nuke a team… unlikely the case where 3rd buff is the better solution. Pre burst delays burst after all

[gritty ridge]

Yeah thats what I was thinking

Would 1.8 burst be enough to make her work?

[swift mango]

Just use Mast or Crown for a 3rd buffer.

[eager mountain]

Well. No ammo for non bursting helm should be better, but if I use her burst in ca, I’ll want that ammo

[gritty ridge]

Crown has use in pvp

[swift mango]

Maybe maybe not.

[swift mango]

I was champ with Crown last season.

But @umbral crown still refuses to build crown.

[gritty ridge]

Is her build the same as pve?

[eager mountain]

I said nuke 3rd buff, but isn’t crown a fb buff

[swift mango]

She is just a buffer whereever she is

[swift mango]

Read her s2.

[tropic summit]

proc her s2 and she actually gives atk% buff

[eager mountain]

20%…

[tropic summit]

needs to be healed

[swift mango]

Dmg%

[eager mountain]

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

[eager mountain]

Helm and healing burst and what else

[gritty ridge]

[eager mountain]

also mg gen, worth when star aligns ig

[gritty ridge]

Is crust perhaps usable? Ik she only buffs sustain in pvp

[swift mango]

Pretty good win rate.

[eager mountain]

[tropic summit]

SG team against biscuit locked defender team + midhara... not the best example to showcase her when it's a full direct counter

[eager mountain]

I mean it’s against the weakest common ca team
Tho I can’t even judge much now, didn’t touch ca for too long

[tropic summit]

not the weakest, but that's a counter

ironically keripo lost to SG team with a scarlet team

CA can be just weird af

[eager mountain]

There are weaker commonly used teams?

Sg team is a leftover with strong synergy to me

[tropic summit]

depends a lot on positioning

and if running biscuit locked teams or revive teams

lots of teams have to consider always a potential SG team, which makes it annoying else you just gambling for it to not run into them

[eager mountain]

Needs to be in specific side since most team wanna protect p1, and still should lose to most good teams

[tropic summit]

mhm

RNG yolo team

[swift mango]

It's just how it guess, SG has 20% rate with CA. And I won because I used crown instead of Cindy.

[tropic summit]

wouldn't have mattered, those SGs were hitting invulnerable forever

[swift mango]

Nah they won't.

[tropic summit]

you could burst with anything there they'd just die because no sustain after glasscannoning

[eager mountain]

a case where crown would be worth needs extra gen to cover her gen, needs heal, and needs non nuke burst for s1

And hope team dont run against scar

[tropic summit]

what's the difference?

SGs will hit in both cases invulnerable p1 or p5
SGs will die to chip damage from all sources
mihara dies to start DoT

crown is irrelevant here tbh

[swift mango]

Crown is the burst 2 in that match. See how biscuit got sniped? And Crown buff so huge Moran could survive the SG easily after burst without biscuit.

[tropic summit]

right i forgot you've to be VERY detailed when talking to you

biscuit NOT in p2

moran mihara cind biscuit xmaiden

[umbral crown]

2026, trust

[swift mango]

Like I said, Biscuit won't burst in that match and Moran would die to SG.

[tropic summit]

you're giving a lot of credit to SGs having to pop biscuit s2 twice and moran heal passive

all of that before dying to chip dmg

without sustain or stall

[swift mango]

They don't need to pop biscuit twice if biscuit died before 2nd trigger.

[tropic summit]

biscuit is in p4

[swift mango]

Watch the match again. Biscuit got sniped by Drake burst.

[tropic summit]

assume she's not running 40% atk OL

because you're probably 1% of the entire community who has biscuit so high on atk%

[swift mango]

Who give a shit about that.

[tropic summit]

yeah now it explains it...

[swift mango]

Biscuit naturally has more ATK than Cindy, Xmaid and Moran.

Unless you reroll them 4 ATK line and out roll biscuit ATK. That's some effort

[tropic summit]

we're talking about crown having a place in that team

the whole thing falls the moment you say biscuit being high atk% enough to be hit by rosanna

it's no longer crown, it's biscuit

[eager mountain]

How does drake burst target work?

[swift mango]

Because her buff is huge and doesn't die easily as biscuit.

[swift mango]

She hit highest ATK

[tropic summit]

and blood has pumped biscuit with atk% flowing instead of blood in her veins

[eager mountain]

[swift mango]

[eager mountain]

Her atk is enriched

[tropic summit]

following his logic, you could've then just placed naga with less atk% than biscuit

biscuit dies, naga bursts, the team wins anyway because crown was just a flex

[swift mango]

She won't survive scar counter

[tropic summit]

no we talking about this matchup

and trying to somehow explain crown reasons to be in that team

which we just cleared she's essentially just flex B2 because you using biscuit to die to ross

[swift mango]

Team needs to win more than 1 match up.

[tropic summit]

don't turn around the point now

[swift mango]

Otherwise, why bother bring them to CA?

[tropic summit]

we talked about crown being used in CA

but in this team she's just a flex

[swift mango]

Because she survive the Scarlet counter and wipe.

[tropic summit]

i don't have energy for this

[eager mountain]

[tropic summit]

the point went across, this is NOT a crown showcase, this is a specific atk% OL bait biscuit team with flex B2 happening to be crown

[swift mango]

I could send Rookie test against scarlet.

[tropic summit]

not talking about other matchups, THIS matchup

i get your point for other matchups

i use myself crown on 4RL against emi 3RL

because she actually fulfills a role there

[eager mountain]

Average Sp niche, neither justify actual ca worth unless she actually plays a decisive role in said ca team

[tropic summit]

pretty much

she's mostly a CP pad flex option that can be situational

just like how blood used her as a flex in that team of earlier

[eager mountain]

It’s not impossible in a future meta where we got so much batteries, and runs 2rl for all teams instead of getting 1rl team, and somehow focus on offburst stall buff… then maybe she can have use ig….

But yeah can’t really think of a reason of her being meta relevant rn

[tropic summit]

as long as burst gen is so relevant, slower nikke are always a pain to somehow fit

the day nero moran team becomes a natural 2RL, it will require a different solution

[swift mango]

It's solution was always RH+Blanc+2-3DPS.

[eager mountain]

2rl Nero Moran team likely also means a possible 1rl nuke team tbh

[tropic summit]

have you seen b4stial's videos of tanking that?

[eager mountain]

Tho the former should be easier

[tropic summit]

that man scares me

[swift mango]

Dude just went against lower invested Team

[tropic summit]

hmmm not so sure about that

[swift mango]

It is

[tropic summit]

consider his synchro the chances such a team wasn't invested are low

[swift mango]

You need LapT off burst dmg and burst with Scar/RH/Emi, not a shit SBS.

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

SBS automatically fold against any stall team.

She is trash

[tropic summit]

time to hit the bed, fortunately smartworking tomorrow so i'll ensure i'll be very productive at home

[swift mango]

G9

Hmm I guess I could throw crown out for Tia.

[fiery parcel]

Should i get my scar to SR15? She's SR10 now

[swift mango]

Focus on your campaign team first

[strong hull]

Blood-kun

[fiery parcel]

SR doll is pretty done for campaign. Only raid fringe units might need to consider

[swift mango]

I mean, mirror Noise+Noah 2RL

Cindy vs SBS, Cindy wins every time even though, SBS has higher after wipe dmg, because, you know, she doesn't wipe.

[fiery parcel]

Top left all SR15. SANIS, MOD and laplaceT are SR15/treasured

So i might doll up Naga, manchor, raven or go for scar

[swift mango]

If you care about Arena, Scar should be one of the first to sr15 yeah.

[fiery parcel]

I am trying to, yes. I missed CA this season

Sads. So much work, but only got 2700 gems out of it

[eager mountain]

just cp pad ur thelm further and u won’t even need naga for campaign anymore

[fiery parcel]

I can try to treasure miranda

[fiery parcel]

Need rocks to reroll OL

[swift mango]

Naga is out of a job in Campaign after Rapipi, Maid mast and Siren.

[eager mountain]

I would suggest getting rocks on her instead of trying to sr15 ur naga just for campaign.
Naga is not even used in solo raid now thx to all the non core bosses

[swift mango]

HelmT got her to the brink. Maid mast and Siren just kicked her down the cliff.

[swift mango]

No reason to use Naga anymore in Campaign

[eager mountain]

Helm is the only offburst that’s worth 12 line min max imo

[fiery parcel]

My helm is expensive to reroll.

[eager mountain]

And ofc the 12 line accounts PvP usage

[swift mango]

It's LapT and Emi for Arena player

[fiery parcel]

Im trying to beat harvester too

[eager mountain]

Emi isn’t off burst, can be in pve but useless
Lapt is almost useless in pve

[fiery parcel]

About 5B. Skill issue. Cannot clear adds for helm's burst

[eager mountain]

Just spam esc

[swift mango]

But she beat many things in Arena. Including Killing Scarlet before she burst and offing Nero

[fiery parcel]

Mobile malder

[swift mango]

[fiery parcel]

[eager mountain]

That won’t make her worth 12 line for average player that plays PvP but isn’t PvP hardcore

But helm is

[eager mountain]

[swift mango]

Helm isn't either. For Player that play solo raid but not solo raid hard core.

To be frank only RH in this game arguably worth the 12 lines because she is used everywhere.

[eager mountain]

she is, replace naga in campaign once she gets cp gap, still the best water dps, and still good for stall team in PvP where every dps line matters

Honestly the best chara to minmax outside of hard meta dps

[fiery parcel]

Also, kinda stuck at 30-6 on hard. I have the team, but being on mobile and skill issue, don't think I'll ever beat it

[swift mango]

Someone is copium on their investment.

[eager mountain]

Cs is still good enough for pve so they don’t conflict much, the actual all purpose investment

Don’t even use sanis and scar outside of elec weak raid now

[swift mango]

I use scar to clear mirror bosses in campaign still. Cindy is too hard to hit circle.

[oblique ridge]

Waiting for the day campaign needs 2+ teams If ever

[fiery parcel]

I think that's gonna be surface content

[eager mountain]

So Cindy and her are the 2 best all purpose chara
And nartually Cindy has higher priority for minmax cuz she’s hard carry, but she isn’t as minmax reliant, so helm is actually comparable in priority in that sense cuz of PvP line needs being more nasty

[oblique ridge]

Nahhh. Surface content details are lacking, but from what they hinted at and previewed, it sounds a lot like Dispatch

You try to do something, you “dispatch” Nikkes to do it with their surface content specific bonuses

So it’s just roster depth than comps and investments

Like if you have 155 Nikkes, Surface Content will be ez
Just a guess though, would need it to be actually released someday…
SOMEDAY

[swift mango]

My HelmT is doing just fine with no ATK line. A feel more ATK line won't help you win any Arena match.

And you could ATK buff her else where.

[eager mountain]

stall team always helps, and Pve atk always helps

[umbral crown]

My helm has no atk but still 2nd highest atk unit in my box

[eager mountain]

Cindy only needs 9 lines, the rest are marginal gains

[swift mango]

Stall team doesn't need ATk on HelmT.

It's called stalled team for a reason

[eager mountain]

does to beat other stall

[umbral crown]

Tela is an spanish word

Blood knows

[swift mango]

To beat other stall, burst with Quiry.

[umbral crown]

Ez

[eager mountain]

and then lose to more other mu

[eager mountain]

Always gtg like rail

[swift mango]

Auto correct knows.

[umbral crown]

I do not have auto correct since 2023

a SG getting the CS that Noah should have

[umbral belfry]

gimme that

[umbral crown]

Wish that blue line was on noan instead soda

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

My only black CS line was on Siren.

[swift mango]

If I had this last CA I could have won the final 4/5

[umbral crown]

The pain

<@&946725432554836008>

[hexed cypress]

Can someone make me 3 defs team? Just got helm by 200 gold and 400 silver then have hẻ upgrade to fvr 💀

https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/home?uid=MjkwODAtODM3MTUxMjU4ODYzNTgxOTc2Mw%3D%3D&openid=MjkwODAtODM3MTUxMjU4ODYzNTgxOTc2Mw%3D%3D

[umbral crown]

if you send a pic with your nikkes in horizontal mode shorte by power would be faster

[hexed cypress]

Oke wait a min

[hexed cypress]

Im putting em off the synchro btw. Also pls make the def team that you think is the best out of those char, cuz ill try to upgrade their cp to fit it

[umbral crown]

whats your rosanna investment?

[umbral crown]

☆☆☆SP Defense ☆☆☆
Scarlet/DrakeT/Trina/Red Hood/Jackal
Noise/Noah/Cinderella/Biscuit/Rumani
SBS/Blanc/Rapipi/HelmT/X.Maiden

[graceful grotto]

wont biscuit be better in T3 and have blanc at pos 1?

since noise x noah should be enough to survive

[jagged mesa]

i literally just got your joke/reference, i had no idea wtf sora was about

days later

[spiral onyx]

I spent a bunch of rocks on upgrading Raven for PvE instead of saving them for PvP. I feel dirty.

[quick lake]

PvE main Keripo

[oblique ridge]

Raven fixed Keripo

[shell hazel]

Raven disapproves

but also max core Raven win

[hexed cypress]

She is 101010 full ol

[hexed cypress]

Hmm lemme try both ig

[covert lintel]

@swift mango i got a second ED in helmT and this is the result

[shell hazel]

my plan/hope for HelmT is to roll at least 3 x CS, 3 x ATK and 3 x Ele. Going for all 4 would be expensive

[worthy sorrel]

🤔

[shell hazel]

yes kind of like that, can I have that gear please? 😄

[worthy sorrel]

she's been at the top of my box for a while because i can't get my last atk lines on rapi lol

i'm just glad she's at least great in both pve and pvp

[shell hazel]

my Rapi is sub-optimal still but isn't too bad

[graceful grotto]

helmT crazy

[shell hazel]

my HelmT has a very mixed bag still

I doubt I'll touch the gloves, 2 good lines and charge damage re-roll off line 2 is pain

I'm trying to roll a good line 3 on the boots, so CS ele or atk on line 3 and I'll work that one backwards

chest is cp pad for now but I'll lock l3 and do the same there when I get rocks

and helm same, need a good line 2 🙂

[worthy sorrel]

yeah chest looks like easy line 3 lock and roll. no brainer at least

[shell hazel]

yeah, just eaten 20 ish rocks trying to roll the boots so far and no luck

hoping for one more CS roll before the CA starts

[worthy sorrel]

oof no good line 3s after 20 rocks is p rough

[shell hazel]

yup, I'll keep working at it 😄

[worthy sorrel]

i do like helm at 4 ele though, just makes her expensive to build for both pve and pvp since she becomes a 12/12 unit.

until behemoth releases as a pilgrim level water b3 or something though we just have no good water hitters for union raid

that helm let me do work on water for the guild

[shell hazel]

yeah I'm resigned to being 11/12 at best, and I'll be missing one ele

but all my units need some work, and rocks are in short supply generally

[covert lintel]

That will be so hard

[shell hazel]

I dunno 2 good lines per piece with 2 of them being 3/3 isn't insane, it won't be simple but not impossible either

I have two bits of gear with good line 3 so that is early bit set, if I get 3rd one then it's just a case of time and rocks

[covert lintel]

Even though I tried rerolling 1st line only that guaranteed appear, i can't seem to get what stat i want with 30 rocks

[worthy sorrel]

ye some of the rolls look annoying, but she's worth it for now imo. idk how water will look after like 3rd anni, but she's the best we got atm

a lot of my union friends have an easier time since they only care about union raid/solo raid so just need 4ele/4atk.

4ele/4atk/3cs like i have above was not cheap lol

good for a pretty low sync black snake clear though

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

4 CS and 3 black/blue Ele.

[shell hazel]

easy lol

[quick lake]

200 rocks only amirite

[swift mango]

Less than 100 on her.

[tropic summit]

🧱

[quick lake]

My helm was probably around 50-100 ig

[quick lake]

FML B1????

@raven plover

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/fridge-dissapointed-no-food-my-excitement-for-food-is-now-gone-oh-nevermind-gif-17411460

[crystal flicker]

6 Ammo

[quick lake]

Sora is just a Milk Alternative

[lunar pawn]

Sora not clip then?

[spiral onyx]

She will replace Rapunzel in my team

Actually no

[worthy sorrel]

ffs really? I just sr15'd rapu doll

[spiral onyx]

She's B1

[quick lake]

Does NOT look clipRL

[spiral onyx]

She will burst before Siren stun applies to Scarlet

[crystal flicker]

Yeh

[worthy sorrel]

[spiral onyx]

So she will not replace Rapunzel

[worthy sorrel]

[spiral onyx]

Unless clip RL

[crystal flicker]

2.5 comp

[spiral onyx]

In which case she's just a generic battery

[spiral onyx]

B1 will still happen too early

[worthy sorrel]

in fairness i would rather another battery in our no emilia bracket than anything else at this point

[lusty gull]

remove bubble, no more stun

[spiral onyx]

Oh true

Bubble is a debuff

[quick lake]

52.2% heal x 1.11 supporter HP x 1.35 HP potency = 78% Atker HP healed on Burst

[spiral onyx]

Ok then she will replace Rapunzel and let Scarlet sit in P1 lol

[crystal flicker]

Might be useful for my 2.5 comp

P1 SAnis goes brr

[spiral onyx]

And free up Rapunzel for Noah Moran comp

[quick lake]

S tier pvp and we move on

[crystal flicker]

A maybe

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1385051627819503757/SU-release-another-PVE-nikkegif.gif

[quick lake]

[shell hazel]

no ClipRL probably skippable then

[atomic wolf]

that trading did insane mental damage + i get top 3

[quick lake]

1 copy for pvp enthusiast and move on ig

[atomic wolf]

for what

her kit looks like shit + its sr

you get her mostly if you like exhibitionism as a fetish

see the dispel debuff snd healing sounds nice right

it could be siren counter

then you remember this

she is sr

[quick lake]

She is RL

[atomic wolf]

no matter what team she's in she needs actual burst gen to be viable against siren/soda comps

oh?

[quick lake]

14.2% normal RL burst gen probably

[swift mango]

Only 1 dispel so only useful for counter Siren. Hmmm... Okay I guess.

Now to find a way to break part.... Isnt she good to off burst buff Emi though?

[atomic wolf]

oh wait I think i read wrong person's kit

damnit so i guess she is useful

[quick lake]

Parts dmg?

[tropic summit]

she essentially fixes noah and scarlet usage in p1

[shell hazel]

if her burst gen is OK she could work in scar team as the flex

[atomic wolf]

1 dispel does work against soda too

[tropic summit]

at the cost of giving up on a B1

[atomic wolf]

lets think about this

[quick lake]

Honestly just a unit to counter Siren. Boring

[tropic summit]

ya pretty much

[shell hazel]

then we need the next unit to be a counter for Sora 😄

[atomic wolf]

scarlet comp is insanely fast and you only have a bad time with high ammo OL line

[tropic summit]

some senior investor in SU probably complained he can't run no brain scarlet p1 anymore since siren released

[atomic wolf]

so she has one real use and its in the noah team which is the one that has cindy in it

[quick lake]

The most interesting use case I can think of is:
Sora (35% potency) + MaidAnchor (30% HP potency)
So 95% of Atker HP healed upon burst

[atomic wolf]

ok now thats funny

[quick lake]

Assuming the interactions work

[shell hazel]

super heal

[atomic wolf]

it does lose to scarlet burst

[shell hazel]

anchor not the quickest burst gen either though

[atomic wolf]

see this is heal so it works against cindy comp

[swift mango]

24% Caster atk

[quick lake]

Anchor s1 + Sora Burst

[atomic wolf]

because cindy nuke is slow and not instant

[quick lake]

Doesnt it need to destroy parts to proc? PvP no parts

[atomic wolf]

scarlet has insane attack so if she gets to burst she taps everyone even with overheal

and we haven't heard of any story regarding surviving against scarlet comp wirh manchor yet

[swift mango]

Cover is part

[quick lake]

oh is it?

[atomic wolf]

cover is part yeah

it is concerning because

this isbheavily implying that she only exists in cindy team

where her nuke destroy covers and the nikkes as well

[quick lake]

Hmmm... maybe Sora + MaidAnchor copium ig...

[vapid lake]

just skip

Save gem to gem on ur opponents

[atomic wolf]

scarlet team is just insane nuke not even cover can survive and she needs cover destroyed to work, if they are already dead there is no point

[swift mango]

I thought she could dispel more than 1 debuff, just 1 is pretty underwhelmed...m

[vapid lake]

All the gems im not spending to pull her? Imma gem any mfer that attacks me

[tropic summit]

looks like oldschool 2RL noah can be run again against siren in any position

[atomic wolf]

like what kind of team is able to destroy cover right before she gets to burst

[atomic wolf]

nah bro i have 17% noah

aint rolling for this exhibitionism thot

[vapid lake]

See rheax if u repeat it enough times it comes true

[atomic wolf]

17% noah surely cant be stunned by siren right

[swift mango]

All my RL are 9+2 or above. I don't have to worry about siren.

[quick lake]

Sora + MaidAnchor:
MaidAnchor = 30% HP potency
Sora = 35% HP Potency

Translates to 95% of Atker HP healed from Sora B1

MaidAnchor + Sora (assuming 2 cover broken) = 60% + 10% = 70% HP storage
MaidAnchor 40% Heal on Burst 2

hmmm

[atomic wolf]

☠️☠️☠️

[atomic wolf]

ok but how can you destroy cover before you burst

[tropic summit]

i like how you guys assume everyone has got their teams loaded of CS%, I mean i understand but that's a nice assumption

[swift mango]

Nice to know you don't.

[quick lake]

Sora seems to be a better Milk tbh...

[tropic summit]

i do myself, now go cook for all the ppl who ask for help here and definitely do not have your same builds

[quick lake]

Problem with my previous Milk + Anchor is that too much dmg was recieved pre-burst

[tropic summit]

you'll find out that if you assume they've same CS% investiment, it turns out they don't

[quick lake]

Its a okay-ish pvp unit

[swift mango]

I don't assume. I ask.

[tropic summit]

and i'm telling you they don't have 11-17% CS teams

[atomic wolf]

if you dont have 17% on every clip rl and noah and helm

[swift mango]

If they don't, they don't.

[atomic wolf]

you serve NO purpose

[atomic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-low-tier-god-gif-7063766479042034257

[tropic summit]

yeah no shiet watson, hence why i said oldschool 2RL noah can be run again, it doesn't even need CS% investiment

[atomic wolf]

tbh i remembered i did get stunned by siren even wtih 17%

so that is concerning

[swift mango]

I hate how she is 1 dispel and not 2+

[tropic summit]

that's the best SU can spare, can't have good things

consistent with how they care about their game if anything

[swift mango]

It said "remove debuffs" here, such liar...

[crystal flicker]

This is concerning

[quick lake]

Dispel doesnt remove Cindy's decoy? @swift mango

[tropic summit]

scammed in 4K

[quick lake]

Mid unit as usual

[atomic wolf]

ok so are they not gonna rerun nier or what

[quick lake]

runs concurrently

[atomic wolf]

2 events at the same time?

[atomic wolf]

or its just rerun like eva2 having built in eva1 rerun

[crystal flicker]

Ye

[atomic wolf]

Sucks

no easy cd farm hack

[swift mango]

Ofc not. And sora dispel debuff, not buff.

[crystal flicker]

I need Sora to be XMaiden gen at least

[spiral onyx]

She already heals 70% HP with burst

dont really need more than that

if you do... you're probably fked

the dispell is expected to cleanse Siren... we will see

[quick lake]

Was just wondering if Sora + MaidAnchor HP storage would be equivalent to a Noise buff. Doubt so

[spiral onyx]

the S2 is questionable

[spiral onyx]

She B1s first though right? So no storage

[covert lintel]

They should use "clear 1 debuff" not "dispel 1 debuff" to avoid misunderstanding

[spiral onyx]

or do you mean top off then overcap

which might work,yes. But thats 2 units and now you have no buffer

[quick lake]

If cover broken, its 5% HP storage per broken cover. Maybe 10% storage from Sora, another 60% from MaidAnchor Storage. Just copium math

Thinking of some funky Sora + MAnchor + Quiry cope

[swift mango]

Merry said, it cleanse the first debuff so probably siren bubble but if she already stunned when Sora burst it would remove other debuff like Noah s1.

[vapid lake]

Remember to buy 2b gacha skin sucker valuable player

[spiral onyx]

as long as her cleanse can remove bubble and therefore prevent stun, she'll be in my CA teams

[crystal flicker]

As long as she has >= XMaiden gen, I'll cook her

[spiral onyx]

Things that could make her good:

• If her cleanse removes bubble and prevents Siren stun
• If her S2 applies on breaking enemy barriers and therefore gives the team a nice +25% atk buff
• If she's clip RL

Things that could make her useless

• If her cleanse does not remove bubble
• If her burst gen is worse than Rapunzel's

[quick lake]

Doubt

[quick lake]

xmaiden had higher burst gen because of her s2 proc

[spiral onyx]

If anyone gets to testing the bubble remove before me, please ping me with the findings

[shell hazel]

I won't be pulling day 1 I'll need to wait and see, only have about 50 pulls and I need the nier units as well

[swift mango]

She is okay to got to wishlist I guess... A side grade to Noise/Rapu...

She is better to use to buff units like SBS, Emi because they still deal high dmg after burst wipe...

As cover often survive into full burst...

[covert lintel]

It's the same grade as arcana in pvp unless she is clip

[swift mango]

Arcana is much lower tier

[tropic summit]

her value is to counter siren

rest is something rapunzel was able to do already, minus revive

[worthy sorrel]

her motion demonstration is up on youtube now. does not look like clip 👀

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwXQOBANtTo

[tropic summit]

intern probably tossed a dice to decide it

[crystal flicker]

She will be so much better if she's clip

[tropic summit]

[quick lake]

Looks like we wait another 2-3months for the next half-decent pvp unit

[atomic wolf]

clip

say no more its a skip

[tropic summit]

reload animation hints to a single reload, no clips

then again you never know, it's SU as usual

[covert lintel]

Siren is ez to counter
Just make a backup burst like my previous emi&cindy team

[tropic summit]

she's ez to counter, just annoying to deal with because it forces the hand of the attacker, which was main the thing

take that away and she loses value

[swift mango]

Not so easy when you need to build 5 teams to counter her and still good

[tropic summit]

exactly this

it's the same thing with SGs, they're easy to counter, but you need 5 teams expecting to deal with it

else you taking risks

[lunar pawn]

Easy if you never qualify for CA

[shell hazel]

harder to counter in CA as well so it's another tool there

[tropic summit]

ppl can go back to run p1 things as long as she's present and bursting now

which directly nerfs siren usage

[covert lintel]

It's ez to build 5 teams for siren resistant

[shell hazel]

Rail you still training horse girls?

[tropic summit]

always

[shell hazel]

[swift mango]

But make them weaker to other teams.

[shell hazel]

I saw you roped Blood in as well

[tropic summit]

that game is too whale friendly for pvp

i don't think he'll like it

[shell hazel]

become a whale to compete

[tropic summit]

he'll never whale

[swift mango]

I just don't pvp

[shell hazel]

also an option

[swift mango]

No

[covert lintel]

Uma musume? Still hype for that?

[tropic summit]

oi.

[shell hazel]

I imagine global will be a bit less whaley than jpn

[shell hazel]

but still some whalin

[fathom rock]

[tropic summit]

[fathom rock]

How useless yall think sora is

[shell hazel]

might be OK option but doesn't seem like meta if not clip RL

[tropic summit]

-usable as B1 to counter debuffs (siren)
-works for HP stacking/sustain

[fathom rock]

Her s2 wouldnt work tho so just a one time heal?

[tropic summit]

budget rapunzel with better insta heal

[fathom rock]

So i can skip cuz i have rapu

[tropic summit]

you can skip as long as you don't need a B1 flex with debuff removal

[fathom rock]

Can that work to dispel mermaid

[tropic summit]

bubble is debuff, although we've yet to see le videos

[crystal flicker]

I think Sora RL gen is a last minute decision coz the kit pretty late

[fathom rock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946720097031045161/1389907532541198407/image.png?ex=686653c2&is=68650242&hm=35bd10e2e7e3eb4fc387f6f7877231b989f8436a7a29bc29a98fc99cd0accf9f&

[tropic summit]

another 60+ beta to go

let's be honest, they don't give a f

[quick lake]

CA is permanently in Beta

[fathom rock]

Just like ur

[quick lake]

Just like SR

[tropic summit]

[quick lake]

The whole Nikke is in Beta

[tropic summit]

intern kun doesn't want to edit the code more than needed

last time it broke the whole FPS perfomance

[crystal flicker]

Nikke needs competitions

[fathom rock]

Atleast fix what you broke

[swift mango]

She is a bit weaker side grace to Noise and Rapu...

[fathom rock]

If nikke gets competition ill play that right away cuz its new and i wont brick yet

[quick lake]

I really hope they do a seasonal buff/debuff for CA units

[fathom rock]

sg units gain a 50% attack increase while ar units do 50% less dmg and rl units take 50% more dmg

[crystal flicker]

RL units has 50% lower gen

[fathom rock]

Nah thats too far

[tropic summit]

release nikke 2 and we gud

[fathom rock]

Su competes with su!

[tropic summit]

FPS nikke lessgo

[crystal flicker]

Or auto revive buff for each match

[fathom rock]

Give 5s indom to everyone

[swift mango]

My Cindy still nuke SG as usual.

[covert lintel]

That just makes whalers get advantage

[fathom rock]

All units get a decoy worth 100% their hp

[crystal flicker]

Oh

[swift mango]

No revive though

Or small heals

[quick lake]

Yes, release Nikke 2. Stop playing Nikke beta

[crystal flicker]

HP +500%