pvp-arena

[umbral belfry]

wait not bisc. a 2 rl noah cindy. unless if that team is also 2 rl?

[wise horizon]

that team is 2RL

[umbral belfry]

then my above point

[wise horizon]

so a 2RL Noah/Cinderella team would do

[umbral belfry]

yes as long as noah is 11 cs or has more cs than your noise

[wise horizon]

Noise/Noah/Cinderella/HelmT/Rumani

[umbral belfry]

if Noise has more cs than noah then noah gets stunned and you are rip

[wise horizon]

hmmm noise has one CS line. Noah doesnt have any. so i would need to roll some lines for Noah

[umbral belfry]

f

moran bay helm would be the easiest as long as you're not in deficit

[wise horizon]

need to check

[placid bloom]

3RL Jackal SBS Blanc should clear it. Scarlet + Mermaid feed you to 2RL and only Jackal will get stunned, SBS will wipe them before she can get stunned.

[umbral belfry]

inwas just thinking that

[placid bloom]

it does waste your Jackal and probably Helm too, but it leaves all your other clips available

pretty minimal resource team imo

[wise horizon]

Moran/Bay/HelmT/Centi/Rumani and I am still within deficit range

[placid bloom]

you can use a different B3 too if you want

[wise horizon]

go with that team?

[placid bloom]

that one is fine too

[umbral belfry]

either or is fine, yeah

back to work I go gl

[wise horizon]

3RL Jackal, SBS, Blanc, Biscuit, Centi

[placid bloom]

don't necessarily need Biscuit here, any RL should work. Just make sure whoever is 3rd link has vigor cube to not steal indom from SBS

[warm monolith]

What should i run against noise/noah/cindy/biscuit/thelm im using thelm for a different team

[wind kelp]

Hmm, if i try my dangest and do the best thinky fighty pvp things i can; i get 2700 gems and might get to champ arena(and then not get past 1st :p ). Because nobody is getting top 3 with the folks in our SPA.

If i chill and "eh, it'll do" around 6-8, i get 2000-2400 gems. I think i can afford one chill round of pvp

[wise horizon]

@placid bloom @umbral belfry thanks for your input. it worked well with Moran/Bay/HelmT/Centi/Rumani 2RL. i didnt try with Jackal/SBS/Blanc/Biscuit/Centi 3RL but i will try next time
Good luck with your rolls for Raven

[warm lynx]

somehow noah is still getting her burst off

[swift mango]

Did you get her?

[placid bloom]

any speedrunner test her burst gen yet

[swift mango]

Easy way is to go with

Noah+Biscuit+HelmT+Rapu+Raven

If it's 2rl then she has Burst gen similar to Xmaiden

[shell hazel]

did we work out if raven was or was not clip RL yet?

[placid bloom]

well it's definitely higher than regular RL

how much exactly Idk

[swift mango]

Could do like I said. Or Come to practice fight to shoot at boss.

Then 100%/(number of shot need to full gauge X2) to roundly guess her burst gen. I'm out of battery so I would check in a few hours with this trick....

If anyone own her could go to arena to test.

[placid bloom]

actually nvm shooting range test kinda pointless, no splash on enemy

I will go test on rookie

[shell hazel]

aight I don't have her yet, I'm in a game with some friends elsewhere will look at pulling them after

[tropic summit]

a video would help, would require enemy to have high CS%

[swift mango]

Just use a team that would be 2rl with xmaiden and 3rl without. Don't use RNG factor such as RH or Jackal or scarlet in the team. Record video ofc.

[placid bloom]

just using this, swapping XMaid for Raven

maybe I can get it closer to 100%

[swift mango]

sure you can survive, with this team lol?

But yeah it works

send and record

[placid bloom]

I mean I'll just swing into a 4RL rookie

should be okay

[swift mango]

so long as you don't outright kill them with normal attack.

we have 5 chance anyway

should be fine

[west lynx]

Hello guys! I have no clue what's good or bad for my PVP teams. I am fairly new to the game and my PVP team is buns because I keep loosing to lvl 160 teams as a level 200. Would someone help me put together 3 teams for pvp? ^^

[swift mango]

Maybe you could replace SBS with tia too. lower CP and less RNG than SBS.

[tropic summit]

post your box with nikke ordered by strength

[swift mango]

how did it go?

[west lynx]

Oke! 1 sec

[swift mango]

don't put quantum on them ofc

[west lynx]

Units I got thus far. I am also fine with leveling up and investing in new units if necessary

[tropic summit]

oke taking a look

[warm lynx]

nvm i managed to win by delaying my burst lol

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-laptop-duh-gif-8033838636860661307

[swift mango]

It's a few week since I last saw you type this line.

[placid bloom]

Not 2RL

[sleek imp]

same people in the same damn bracket

[uncut portal]

Raven can PVP or not?

[keen vapor]

Well, any RL can

yet, we don't prefer Tia

[swift mango]

Do your Bsicuit have Any CS line?

[placid bloom]

uh I can check blabla

already closed gmae

[swift mango]

You could see here that Siren stunned Rumani before Raven even shot her 2nd shot... Raven shot is just too slow.

[tropic summit]

scarlet siren trina drake jackal
naga centi ein rh maiden
noah biscuit alice rumani crown

treasure helm asap, s1 lvl 10, stage 2
can consider afterward drake treasure

raise CP on the units attached

get your teams reviewed once helmT is ready

[west lynx]

Oh wow, thank you so much! 🙂

[swift mango]

This look close to 2RL too me, looks like raven has good burst gen just weird timing.

[placid bloom]

no cs on Rumani or Biscuit

[uncut portal]

So...Raven is not for PVP right?

[placid bloom]

or Helm

[tropic summit]

it's probably around normal RL burst gen then

[placid bloom]

well the timing will always be weird because SBS does not line up with regular RL timing

[copper creek]

raven gen 1.4 no?

just put tia there should be right

[placid bloom]

but Raven does seem to attack slower

[swift mango]

The problem is, Raven only shot 1 shot if you look at my image here.

[uncut portal]

Yeah...slower than biscuit

[tropic summit]

great, makes her even worse then

[umbral belfry]

how's it looking

[tropic summit]

unless you guys wanna try giving her 17%+CS and see if it changes anything

[swift mango]

It means she has the burst gen of 2 shoots of Tia with just her 1 shot.

[placid bloom]

I look further in the video, Biscuit shoot 5 rocket in the time it take Raven to shoot 3

[uncut portal]

EZ skip for PVP

[placid bloom]

so she's like 40% slower?

[copper creek]

yeah nvm i just tried running her myself
omegalul

[swift mango]

So Xmaiden burst gen but Bready shooting speed.

[nimble root]

Can anyone help me come up with some SP/Rookie teams? I'd appreciate it, this is my box

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[lone sequoia]

A2 delay with only 2 targets, same as we already said when her kit dropped

[copper creek]

can go see k's vid in rps

kekw pepega unit for pvp

dont think CS gonna help enough

[swift mango]

@raven plover Some pepeg unit for your pepega union. You guys gonna make 30 champs next season.

[tropic summit]

do you've rumani down there?

[nimble root]

Yeah but I just got her, she doesn't have any investment yet not even equips or a doll atm, I could put a doll on her but she'd still be without equips

[swift mango]

@bleak shale

So raven has the burst gen of xMaiden, or double that of normal RL like Tia per shot but her shooting speed is almost half as fast.

[swift mango]

Thanks for the test.

[onyx scaffold]

raven good for pvp?

[swift mango]

Burst gen wise, no.

[bleak shale]

Does it match what I have or no

I already know she has delay

[lunar pawn]

How's raven in pvp

Ass?

[swift mango]

Looks like has double of Tia regen per shot. So maybe yes, not sure how your chart look like.

[umbral belfry]

how bad is it I'm still at work

[placid bloom]

just so you know, I filled burst with SBS slash before Raven even fired 2nd shot

[swift mango]

I think raven shot 2 times in 3rl. But her burst gen per shot is double that of normal RL like Tia,

not that bad actually, at least not trash tier.

[placid bloom]

probably usable for 3RL team but not 2RL

[tropic summit]

jackal scarlet trina siren sbs
noah biscuit rapu s.anis emilia
naga centi cind helm noise

you can aim for table to the right once:

-xmaiden has more investiment (4/4/4, 4OL, R15 or SR5)
-rumani has more investiment (4/4/4, 4OL, R15 or SR5)

would promote a team to 2RL, open up emi to be used as either main B3 or additional battery for another team to be on nearly natural 2RL

aiming for 2 2RL teams and a 2.5RL is probably ur best bet, can consider emi on 21% CS aswell

you can also work to have siren having enough atk% to be linked in T1 and used in p1 or p2 to make life harder for enemy noahs

once you've xmaiden and rumani up to speed that is also doable

[nimble root]

I really appreciate it, thanks! I'll start building those two out immediately then

[swift mango]

Yeah she should fill more than Normal RL at 3rl like that.

[wet crystal]

Checking in, sounds like she's in the middle of lapt level and regular rl?

[swift mango]

Did you have any quantum on these units?

[placid bloom]

lv4 quantum on Rumani and Biscuit I think, forgot to take them off

[swift mango]

Yeah, it fit perfectly here.

She needs burst gen roundly double that of Tia each shot, to burst in 2.5rl.

[low barn]

what is a gud pvp team?

[swift mango]

So she should have about 23.2 at 3rl in comparing to XMaiden 27.3 at 3rl.

Pretty close if you used her for 3rl, 2.5rl teams I guess...

[swift mango]

A team that's not this team.

[tropic summit]

based on what you showing you could run this

if you've noah or jackal down there, those would further improve it

[low barn]

thank you !

[swift mango]

I'm gonna check Raven nuke in practice range MiranT later.... See if it work with her like it work with Ein.

If she is like Ein then even with the derp burst gen it would make her strong enough.

[tropic summit]

[lone sequoia]

100% crit if she get the destroy buff from miranda and hit before a charged shot?

[shell hazel]

@tropic summit practically first try after 321 lol

[tropic summit]

CP does help there afterall

glad you got past it

[shell hazel]

danke arigatou sensei 🙂

[tropic summit]

domo kein problemo

[shell hazel]

sehr sugoi desu

[lunar pawn]

raven crap burst gen is due to her bugged damage on auto?

e.g. slower attacks or something

[lone sequoia]

same A2 delay, no explosion to 3 targets and no % as extra dmg in her kit, so less instances of dmg or burst gen

[lunar pawn]

so crap in pvp
and she's performing worse than midhara vs kraken, somewhere a parts damager should shine brightest

2 multis for eve, 2 multis for raven, can't complain at least

[lone sequoia]

you want a specific element for those stages

[lunar pawn]

2 neutrals is a good comparison anyway

[lone sequoia]

yes, but she have dmg... against bosses with parts, the thing is that you can get more dmg with other units in elemental advantage and even if her DoT is bug, her burst will deal a lot against the amount of parts in the next solo raid

[crystal flicker]

Raven easy skip

To Quiry my resource goes...

[wanton island]

SU hates me. 220 rolls to MLB raven. def not 4% for me

[lunar pawn]

ofc, it's the type of unit that will go hard in the upcoming SR, and then be shelved

curious how they'll be shelved faster than a2/2b

[lone sequoia]

well, 2B was a premium T5 for many solo raids

[lunar pawn]

their own collab and it's the worse one they've had yet

[lone sequoia]

A2 had like +3 different raids

rem was the unit that didn't work in her first solo raid

[lunar pawn]

a2/2b were used in the last modernia raid

yea rem is icky

but emilia carried that collab anyway so it's fine

[wanton island]

emi is part of the nier collab?

[lone sequoia]

re:zero

[livid marsh]

Share when you done

[misty finch]

Are there any pvp tierlists besides the keripo and Prydwen ones?

[vapid lake]

ok guys i think raven suck for pvp

[misty finch]

1’s dead and the other is iffy sometimes

[vapid lake]

that all

[coarse solstice]

Have we figured out if she's at least a battery

[keen vapor]

She's slow, so not for current meta

[coarse solstice]

Another wasted waifu

[lunar pawn]

free ado pfp though

[loud sonnet]

Bad?

[vapid lake]

very slow charge time and delayed attack

bad as a battery, burst dmg numbers are too low to wipe

so bad as a dps too

[loud sonnet]

Why would they do this?

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/sounds-good-to-me-michael-gif-24612426

so whats her burst gen

[raven sparrow]

so is raven bad because she's broken right now (and will be fixed?), or actually intended bad in pvp? 😦

[wild patio]

@loud sonnet

some people wake up n resort to violence

[loud sonnet]

Ye like me

[keen vapor]

I believe actually intended bad in PVP

SU is careful selecting the toys we're allowed to play with

I'll get one copy from 2B ig and see what's up on summer

[umbral belfry]

just fell to my knees

at least she's hot

is she at least good in pve

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/she-is-not-nope-offended-frank-murphy-f-is-for-family-gif-16473185

[umbral belfry]

say sike rn

[shell hazel]

sike rn 😛

[umbral belfry]

I saved up for nothing!!!

time to use everything I have

[atomic wolf]

and now i'm back with the actual sp arena bracket

[umbral belfry]

[atomic wolf]

nvm its still the same

[maiden acorn]

Hello! Any chance anyone could be of assistance for team building for SP arena? I know Jackal and Biscuit are great but not sure how to go and build anything beyond a single team with the units I have.

[crystal flicker]

Noise Noah Anis Cindy HelmT
Blanc Rapipi Biscuit Siren Centi
DrakeT Jackal Crown Alice Naga

[maiden acorn]

Thank you so much! Going to test it right now.

[maiden acorn]

All organized in that order? So Noise in P1, Noah P2, and so on?

[crystal flicker]

Yeh

[maiden acorn]

Got it, thank you, truly!

[crystal flicker]

Mostly your issue is 0 pvp investment

So prob you'll have some deficit issue in SP

[maiden acorn]

Shouldn’t Noah be generally in P1? Not questioning the fact, just trying to seriously learn PVP knowledge.

[maiden acorn]

Yeah I’ve just been scrapping positions in Diamond.

[crystal flicker]

Does your Noise and Noah have any OL?

[maiden acorn]

No but I can potentially get some OL on them.

[crystal flicker]

Noah in P2 generally to avoid Siren

Noise will burst before Siren so she should be fine in P1

[maiden acorn]

I have the gear., just not that many rolls.

[crystal flicker]

And you want Noah to have more Charge Speed rolls, to avoid taunting Siren/Soda

[maiden acorn]

This is flying so over my head it’s not funny I need to seriously read some guides

[crystal flicker]

Just think it like, Siren can stun your P1

But her stun is AFTER B1 burst, and BEFORE B2 burst

That is in Cindy comp

[maiden acorn]

Gotcha.

For defense I’ve read the best way to go is just to pad your CP.

[crystal flicker]

in equal knowledge yeah

[maiden acorn]

I’m assuming the teams you mentioned were for attacking, correct?

Should I also have the same teams in defense?

[crystal flicker]

Can use the same for defense, but you should upgrade them to avoid deficit

[umbral crown]

jackee still alive i see

[umbral crown]

skip then

[umbral crown]

mlb

[keen vapor]

........ oi

[umbral crown]

you also have to pull for A2

[keen vapor]

Why

[umbral crown]

waifu

[keen vapor]

Not mine

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

If either of them was Sinon them that'll be another story

There's a reason why I got into the game on first anni

[umbral crown]

whats the reason

[keen vapor]

I don't like what 2B did to the internet

[wild patio]

wym still alive

[keen vapor]

Now I won't get 1 copy

I'll get that OST though

[lunar pawn]

where's the folder if raven neither

[umbral crown]

been a while since last time i saw him here

[umbral crown]

what did she do

will just save gems and tix for x maiden rerun or re zero rerun

[wild patio]

mlb?

[lunar pawn]

need a special kind of meme when they mess up their own collab

[crystal flicker]

I can't think about good template

[lunar pawn]

gotta cook as hard as they did with those CA frames

[wild patio]

release a mid collab unit
ruined the collab
smh

[umbral crown]

si

[lunar pawn]

I mean, this is the one collab they can keep rerunning indefinitely

[umbral crown]

[loud sonnet]

[umbral crown]

not gonna get baited again like i did for ReiT

[strong hull]

[umbral crown]

130 pulls for 1 copy just to see her with 0 investment

now just gotta pull if pvp unit

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-well-that-makes-two-of-us-mickey-haller-the-lincoln-lawyer-s1-e3-same-for-me-gif-15969856487007560076

[gritty ridge]

I lose this don't i

I feed i think

[umbral crown]

most likely, scar team looks like 2 RL to me

[crystal flicker]

Siren

[covert lintel]

he make blanc get jackal link

[gritty ridge]

Hmm?

I dont have any option for attacks cuz im rank 11 atm

So i only get c10,c9,c8

[umbral crown]

stonk

[quick lake]

any consensus on pvp raven

she looks ded for pve

[gritty ridge]

It looks like she charges too slow

[raven plover]

yes but whats her burst gen is it a2 level

[umbral belfry]

it's dorover

[umbral crown]

[dim escarp]

[umbral crown]

then we skip and keep saving for re zero rerun

[umbral belfry]

[dim escarp]

Moran now done

Nero SR15 now (skills maxed )

[crystal flicker]

I keep saying they won't mess this collab, turns out I was wrong and they make this collab mid af

[quick lake]

Bricked their own IP, who would have thought

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

she so hawt

[dim escarp]

this skin is so pixel perfect

[umbral crown]

now moran needs a treasure, we gonna call it Dino Moran

[dim escarp]

I was about to say " can't wait for the treasure "

[umbral crown]

imagine quiry gets a treasure

[dim escarp]

[umbral crown]

[dim escarp]

oh btw, last time you say it's better to burst with quiry against Noah, but what should I do for the CA team

Helm?

[umbral crown]

helm could be an option

[dim escarp]

Quiry isn't properly build so I guess so

they need so much investment

[umbral crown]

yeah

[dim escarp]

already skipping this SR 3% frame for pvp

[umbral crown]

waos

[dim escarp]

I mean I don't think I ll make it without eve and raven build

[umbral crown]

im glad i got finalist frame from CA cuz there is no way i would have a chance for 3% frame

[dim escarp]

[umbral crown]

i have never done 3%

[dim escarp]

you got the one I m dreaming for

[umbral crown]

best i have done it is like 8%

probably

or 15 to be honest

[dim escarp]

I did the first on the last one
RH isn't properly build on this account so

[dim escarp]

Imagine mlb all collab character, but for nothing because of the pvp invest

I m so sad raven don't look good for pvp

[umbral crown]

you can choose the pve way tho

[dim escarp]

my f2p account is full pve focus

but the whale one is pvp

[umbral crown]

i have been thinking to make an alt just to see how the pve bois live

[dim escarp]

it's so confortable

and the pve account still make top7 chall in SPa

without any big invest

dosen't even have ogscarlet

[crystal flicker]

If you break the 160 fast enough, you're guaranteed to be top 10 pvp

[dim escarp]

Ignore cubes

[livid marsh]

Send the raven live wallpaper

[dim escarp]

i'm going with this I guess, not sure about the biscuit team but that's hard to cook for this one

[dim escarp]

sure booting

[crystal flicker]

That Jackal is a waste

[dim escarp]

I saw jackal used like this in so many comp

no real idea why

[crystal flicker]

You can just abuse her feeds and make T3 go 3RL or even 2RL against SG

[dim escarp]

I see

[dim escarp]

don't judge

[dim escarp]

any idea how to improve?

[livid marsh]

Thanks

[umbral crown]

[dim escarp]

[umbral crown]

give jackal to scar

[dim escarp]

like before so

[umbral crown]

scar without jackal loses to scar with jackal, i learnt the hard way

by losing

[dim escarp]

last time my cinderella noah team lost to scarlet (my team has no jackal) so I m a bit scared now

I really want to win with her

[crystal flicker]

It's natural for regular 2.5RL to lose against Scarlet

[dim escarp]

[crystal flicker]

Don't want to lose? get 25% CS or go 2RL with HelmT

[umbral crown]

25% is with black lines, no good advice

[dim escarp]

I try actually haha

[umbral crown]

but go 2 RL cindy

[crystal flicker]

23 + 2 cube

[umbral crown]

if that was that easy i would get it already

[dim escarp]

once helmT done (15% atm)

[crystal flicker]

My calc shows 21% is enough for fight 2RL, but will lose if that 2RL has 5% cs on everyone

[dim escarp]

I'll go fetch CS

for every RL

maybe not anchor

[quick lake]

Commitment

[dim escarp]

yes sir

[umbral crown]

go for clips first

[dim escarp]

I was planning to go for rapu cuz with helmT already at 17% the nero team should be 2.5

[umbral crown]

go for her then

[dim escarp]

[umbral crown]

[dim escarp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1164689626364125305.webp?size=96

[umbral crown]

no fear to success

[dim escarp]

then I guess probably noah team to avoid siren problem?

[quick lake]

sounds about right

[umbral crown]

noah needs like 11-12% cs to avoid siren

she will burst then get stunned

[dim escarp]

just 11-12% for herself ?

[umbral crown]

i want to make mine 17% but also do not wanna make her cp drop

[umbral crown]

yes

[crystal flicker]

11% cs on 2RL comp

[dim escarp]

yeah that's a problem too

roll for cs is a guaranteed cp lost for most of my rl

[crystal flicker]

cp is useless for CA tho

[umbral crown]

like my centi, she is 94k cp but with 17

[dim escarp]

real

[covert lintel]

Make it 12 lines

[umbral crown]

true

[dim escarp]

keep laplace good here or I can do something better ?

[strong hull]

Rosy-dono

[umbral crown]

yeah

[dim escarp]

perfect

[umbral crown]

SR time guys, the perfect moment to get doll kits

[dim escarp]

rng make every ca stressfull

[umbral crown]

yeah, these days are hard for me to decide which teams to use

[dim escarp]

too much to cook lmao

[livid marsh]

Mihara and viper who better to upgrade sr15 first?

[quick lake]

mihara more pve unit imo

[livid marsh]

Wrong name. I mean miranda

[umbral crown]

[quick lake]

depends on which unit u think u'll use more tbh. Both are equally niche

[dim escarp]

gl to everyone for ca

[raven plover]

you guys 12 lines all pvp units?

[umbral crown]

we try

[raven plover]

:MayaEhe:

[dim escarp]

oh btw rosy, not planning to roll for moran/nero lines atm but do they need need anything important ?

[quick lake]

probably not. Maybe Def/Atk would be nice

[dim escarp]

alright

[umbral crown]

atk and defense,

[dim escarp]

damn my moran have 1 atk line no defense

it's jover

[umbral crown]

but moran mostly needs defense

atk also good

[dim escarp]

mhh probably after clip rl investment, tyty

[gritty ridge]

Doll on biscuit, noah, or jackal first?

[quick lake]

Noah

[gritty ridge]

Thx

[umbral crown]

noah

C7 her max doll is the way

[dim escarp]

not even mlb

[umbral crown]

start buying copies with silver tix

[dim escarp]

I did not all in for helm.. certainly not

[umbral crown]

i would also for helm

[dim escarp]

[umbral crown]

we cultured people

https://tenor.com/view/dazzling-girls-und-panzer-gif-18884839

[dim escarp]

once she's C7, if moran dosen't have a treasure soon I'll go for noah

oh btw quick question, when CA start after all team up, I can change my cubes it keep the configuration?

always wondered

[umbral crown]

yeah, even tho once you saved it you can change them back but i always wait till time is closed to change cubes back since nobody will attack me in sp anyway

[dim escarp]

same

making sure just in case

been calm since last shuffle for me

[umbral crown]

for me its been liek this since like 2-3 months ago

[dim escarp]

they removed the guy who was all going for pvp

[umbral crown]

sometims i miss the fun of pvping in SP

[dim escarp]

and I still check every hours to make sure

[umbral crown]

i was like that before but kinda lost that custom, not i just check once or two times per day

[dim escarp]

one bad things about it is I can't test my nero moran team and learn

I'm always on the 2nd spot but the first one got like 70lvl more with all unit c7

[umbral crown]

are you C1?

[dim escarp]

like wait

[umbral crown]

similar to me

c1 is 473 and im 386

i would need 421 boost to be able to fight him

[dim escarp]

I don't mind mine anymore, he is part of the wall now

[umbral crown]

im checking with EX stages 430 lock and my nero team would be 906k

[dim escarp]

I started to whale core around february so there's less level between me and him

[umbral crown]

i guess i should buy cores and get some levels

[dim escarp]

my man play a different game

[umbral crown]

C3 is 424 but do not think he is even in range to fight the whale

[umbral crown]

wanna be like him when i grow up

[dim escarp]

and that's my spa since 8 month

[umbral crown]

good thing kuronos is still trying

[dim escarp]

I was testing midhara team he jumped on it

[livid marsh]

Yeah first time qualified for CA

[umbral crown]

last time someone tried my teams was 20 days ago

[dim escarp]

oof

[umbral crown]

congrats, start cooking your teams

and if you get any upgrades before CA starts, go to your teams and save again

[dim escarp]

the only team I can take from Mr Whale is scarlet

[umbral crown]

that cindy team is common these days in my CA

[dim escarp]

never seen it in mine

[umbral crown]

its 3 RL

2.5 if enough cs

[dim escarp]

[umbral crown]

but probably he started 1 year ago or less

[dim escarp]

I wonder if it's worth to sacrifice biscuit from my blanc team

[umbral crown]

cuz my cp is higher than him at 386

[dim escarp]

[thin perch]

Is there a Noah noise team that can be 2rl nuke proof without helm?

[dim escarp]

I stopped trying to win against mr whale 50 days ago

[umbral crown]

like... this?

[thin perch]

@keen vapor I’m gonna try out your Moran Bay team for SP defenses what are the builds for your other two teams?

[dim escarp]

the only adchievement I got is beating him in hard mode but prob because he is super lazy to push

[umbral crown]

and here i am in chap 22-31

[dim escarp]

[umbral crown]

cuz i defeated motherwhale last night

[dim escarp]

but you have the coolest pvp frame

[umbral crown]

i need the winner one

[dim escarp]

soon bet

[umbral crown]

copium team

[dim escarp]

what in the

damn gg

[umbral crown]

i was trying the pve teams that usally work but mthose units not invested, pvp units had to carry

[dim escarp]

I did go crown - rapi - siren - cinde - modernia

[umbral crown]

modernia is like any SR unit

0 investment

everything for pvp

[dim escarp]

I did invest mod ONLY because I knew mw was about to be a problem lmao

and I'll do the same for Ein against mirror

(ein sick for pvp so it will be good)

[umbral crown]

Ein real carry

pvp as well

[dim escarp]

she's the goat but

I really want the RL to be at 17%

gonna take a looot of rocks

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/kolow-gif-22856605

[glad glade]

@swift mango seems like it doesn’t work anymore. In the SPA battle a few days ago, Ein died and Helm bursted like here. However, what probably happened there was that Helm barely managed to strike Scar down before (or just enough for the bug to kick in) the opposing Blanc got in her’s. Despite this, thanks to the extra sync caused by whaling, seems like the strat doesn’t work anymore

[umbral crown]

lets get lucky

[dim escarp]

I'm already considered as a fraud for my luck with rocks

[quick lake]

18% is the next breakpoint. 15% and 17% same effect

[umbral crown]

hope i can get there in time before we move to 21%

[dim escarp]

reallyyyyyyy

[umbral crown]

yes

[quick lake]

yeah

[dim escarp]

so I can stop my helm at 15

[quick lake]

in theory yes there is no stopping

[dim escarp]

Why I didn't heard that before

[quick lake]

breakpoints are 5/8/11/15/18/21 iirc

[dim escarp]

daaamn why nikke deck show 17%

[umbral crown]

cuz we mortals

[dim escarp]

[quick lake]

That was old math

to scam ppl to use more rocks

[dim escarp]

my helm is pixel perfect with adju then

let's go for rapu

got around 30 rock I'll start to roll before next CA

[crystal flicker]

but CA is

https://tenor.com/view/ina-イナ-ホロライブ-ninomae-inanis-hololive-english-gif-5163955125233969711

[dim escarp]

ya but use only 30 isn't satisfying

I prefere to first tap my nikke than come back later

[pastel narwhal]

Steals all luck and cs

[dim escarp]

[crystal flicker]

Finally, 100% damage red Nero

[dim escarp]

congrats

[quick lake]

My Nero still no dupes

[dim escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-sadness-pet-head-caterpie-sad-gif-16792400

[raven cairn]

how can i beat this?

[eternal finch]

New season! Wanted ot check if there are more recommendations for DEF SP Arena.

[crystal flicker]

2RL Cindy
2RL Scarlet Siren
Emi/ScarBS Blanc

[raven cairn]

can you give an example? i know nothing about pvp

[raven cairn]

thanks

[swift mango]

It's because Ein isn't linked.

I did tell you to make sure Ein linked. Before Ein died and maybe caused bullet whiff so you won.

[swift mango]

Guess it doesn't work like this either, needed to change it to something either.

[glad glade]

Hmm, unless if atk OLs doesn’t affect them, the base stats should say otherwise

[swift mango]

I need to check your Noise and Noah CS, who has higher here.

[umbral crown]

[glad glade]

Noah. She’s OL’ed and Noise isn’t. I needed the former for a Rebuild Cucumber high deficit push

[swift mango]

ATK OL counted.

[crystal flicker]

OL counted in game

[glad glade]

I meant OL affecting base stats. If they don’t, then it might explain the link

[swift mango]

OL doesn't count in the info screen. You need to do the match yourself. Or start a union shoot range with the team then pause to check who has the jackal linked on ... I told you to do this many time already but nevermind we go with different teams next

[glad glade]

Sorry about that. I initially thought it was based on base attack and I forgot the union shooting range existed

[swift mango]

Could you overload Noise?

Cindy to hit Cindy

Mihara to hit HelmT

[glad glade]

Yeah I can OL her. Raven ended up being useless and there’s no way I can get 3% on this SR anyways. Once again, thank you

[swift mango]

record it.

[glad glade]

You mean Mihara to hit his Moran team?

[swift mango]

yes

[glad glade]

I’ll have to wait then. Rn he’s at 6th because the other guy out-CP’ed him. I’ll send you the footage when he gets up

[swift mango]

Again, you need Mihara to have more ATK then Siren.

doesn't work otherwise

[glad glade]

Yeah she has a higher final atk since she has jackal link. This is just me checking both of their final atk, not the actual team

[plucky charm]

would this win? or i could do a 2rl scar-siren to try and stun

[crystal flicker]

2RL Scar more reliable

since Siren guarantee to stun Noah, all that left is damage check

[swift mango]

How many %ATK Mihara and Siren have?

[plucky charm]

i can do this
i tried a 3rl and saw their cindy go off before my blanc did. i just dont know if their cindy will get a bisc invuln from scarlets counter and just burst

[stuck hearth]

im lost. how is nero used in pvp? I may or may not start leveling her

[glad glade]

Both of them have 0% atk ols

[crystal flicker]

Decent Cindy won't fall to 50% from Scarlet counter

[crystal flicker]

Damage reduction from Moran, Passive, and other stuffs

100% damage reduction = only take 1 damage, unless against Blanc

[plucky charm]

does the team lineup look good to send it then? no combat power gap

[stuck hearth]

thats freaking cracked. and now 2 units I havent maxed out.

[crystal flicker]

Yeh looks good, I just beat 2.5 Cindy with similar comp today

[plucky charm]

it worked thank you

[swift mango]

#1383091251401719900 message

Raven is bugged and maybe the delayed in Normal attack speed is caused by this, as well as her higher burst gen per shot.

@placid bloom

@umbral belfry

[raven plover]

time to invest in emma

[swift mango]

Maybe move Siren to p2 with Tempering or vigor

Nvm it probably won't work.

[livid marsh]

I just know about this

[strong hull]

Theyre MID

[swift mango]

Okay, move Biscuit to p2 (with tempering/Vigor or the highest level cube you has) and keep Midhara in P3. 👍

[glad glade]

Gotchu. I’ll do that and record the video when I have the chance. Once again, thank you for your help despite my screwups

[strong hull]

Blood-kun

Ill invest on pvp after this raid

[quick lake]

yep! pretty recent discovery, courtesy from 3x CA champ

[livid marsh]

So for many 2RL comp, 15% is enough?

[strong hull]

[quick lake]

15% to B1 before opponent B3 (in the case of 2RL vs 2.5RL)

At those cs% breakpoint will you find a meaningful increase in firing

Tldr imo: just 15% everyone

[umbral crown]

[raven plover]

my noise still 0 cs for a long time and I think I will keep that

[umbral crown]

did you pull raven, blood?

[swift mango]

Nope

This event drained my luck. I'm waiting for 2B.

[raven plover]

you mean eve banner

[swift mango]

It's the same

Everything on this event even the SSR mold are unlucky to me.

[livid marsh]

Pull for wallpaper

[swift mango]

Or Rock daily earning

[raven plover]

how event drained your luck if you dont pull

[swift mango]

162 a copy. I would need 648 pulls for that. Which I don't have.

[raven plover]

[covert lintel]

I'm broke again
20gems left and no raven

[raven plover]

its ok raven mid

[livid marsh]

Wallpaper is nice though

[raven plover]

as a hobo I cant relate

[swift mango]

1 rock a day every day.
Mold pull at 16.66% SSR.
Doll upgrade hit +3 every time.
Rock roll giving nothing good.
162 special pull for 1 banner Ssr. (+50 standard)
All happened during this event.

[livid marsh]

You should pull until got the wallpaper to relate

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/supernatural-spn-dean-dean-winchester-sam-gif-16140336

wait thats me as well

except rate up banner pull

[covert lintel]

How many your gems right now?

[swift mango]

Maybe I have 200 pulls. So I'm not risking it.

Need to get the 2B ass shake first. Before a RL.

[half grail]

Is Raven looking good for pvp? Any good Burst Gen?

[graceful grotto]

meh

[swift mango]

She is currently bugged so need to wait for SU to respond.

Her burst gen per hit is double that normal RL like Tia but she shot 2 times in the time other RL shot 3.

[half grail]

Ahh interesting ty

[graceful grotto]

fixing raven means nerfing mihara

omg the dilemma is real

[half grail]

I’ll just still use her for SR then

Ain’t got much to use

[swift mango]

@ancient heath

You are real

[ancient heath]

I’m no1 sire

[graceful grotto]

there's a Ce in there somewhere

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Her wipe is normal, not like Ein.

Both Elegg and arcana, no OL synch lv1, so the guarantee Crit buff 100% go to Raven lv200.

He burst in s okay I guess, nothing to drool over

[quick lake]

Drool over Arcana

[pale knoll]

[misty finch]

Is there an updated PvP tierlist anywhere

[quick lake]

prydwen and nikkegg

[misty finch]

Hmm alr

[safe kernel]

Can someone help me to build Sp Arena team?

[loud sonnet]

@wild patio jack just hit you

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/what-salvatore-nani-gif-22914946

[wild patio]

pls make it broken

got her in 15 pulls but still felt being scammed

[forest zodiac]

can someone help me please with CA teams pls pls
my shiftypad https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNTk2MDgxNzQwNDgxMzY0NzYwOQ%3D%3D

[brazen nova]

my first time getting past those whale 😭

[quick lake]

Can reference teams here
#1359332904706117693 message

[forest zodiac]

doesn't help that I don't have xanne and emi (my server started after these banners)

[quick lake]

General consensus is:
Scarlet Soda/Siren Trina Centi Jackal
Noah Noise Cindy THelm Anis
Blanc SBS Biscuit Anis Rumani
SG team
Moran Biscuit SAnis flex flex

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-the-future-taking-notes-notes-michael-j-fox-im-writing-this-down-gif-16242461

[wise horizon]

i happen have a team which uses Scarlet/Soda/Trina/Centi/Jackal (2.5RL)
Would Moran/Bay/HelmT/Centi/Rumani (2RL) work against it?

[raven plover]

that scarlet team is 2 RL

moran team could work as long as bay doesnt get stunned

[wise horizon]

ok. thanks

[wise horizon]

how about Jackal/SBS/Blanc/Biscuit/Centi?

[raven plover]

I had a fight last CA season with similar team but it was

jack, sbs, blanc, centi, xmaiden

my soda stunned blanc and I won
so yea, as long as blanc not stunned

soda scar is full of surprise, you either win big or lose big

[wise horizon]

yeah never thought Soda would be that useful. was caught surprised by how useful she can be

[strange linden]

help, need a 5th team

[umbral belfry]

I feel like her pvp usage is cooked even when she gets fixed though

unless

[quick lake]

Stop coping Raven

[pale knoll]

[umbral belfry]

you'll never stop me

[swift mango]

She might have XMaiden burst gen and normal RL attack speed after the fix. So kinda useful for Arena at least

[sleek imp]

they will fix her... Surely

[wise horizon]

whats a good counter to Moran/Noah/SAnis/Emilia/HelmT?

[swift mango]

who did your p1-2 siren stun in this comp, noah or Moran?

[swift mango]

But yeah, just do Scar+Soda+Trina+Flex+Jackal wipe.

[dense kindle]

Thoughts for CA? I tried to replace Emilia with Ein not sure if i have a better option tbh tried to go with someone who can avoid taunt. Also feeling iffy on my shotgun team

[coarse solstice]

Swap noir and ros

[shell hazel]

Keripo teams

[placid bloom]

the Poli p1 kinda scary without another B2

[shell hazel]

Ros on end should be fine due to concealment

[placid bloom]

[shell hazel]

Keripo runs Viper as well

the main problem with copying keripo teams without the units is that you're more likely 3RL more often than not due to no CS Investment or missing pieces

[dense kindle]

Yea she's also not built so i could be throwing idk

[coarse solstice]

Swap her and soda or drak then

[dense kindle]

Ah i see so those units/ol lines are what enable the teams?

[shell hazel]

I actually miss Viper lol, her and Crust are about the only ordinary recruits I lack now... 😛

yes it's hard to replicate as Keripo has 17% CS on all their batteries and dps where it works I think

[placid bloom]

not too sold on the Scar Blanc team either, I would assume Rapu is linked but it should still be really slow

[coarse solstice]

Could build alice

[placid bloom]

you can go 5 SG

DrakeT, SAnis, Pepper, Naga, Noir or something

well you're not trying to win by bursting, you're just trying to gun them down with normals pre-burst

maybe MPriv is a bit better if you want an AoE wipe on burst

[eternal finch]

Any recs for the new season of SP? Am I missing some meta for DEF?

[placid bloom]

but the team will be a bit slower since already have Naga as non-clip

she'll have pretty fat nuke with DrakeT and SAnis buffs though

actually it's not even that slow if you run double Anis

dunno if you actually have quant cubes to spare though

since it'll be 3RL otherwise

[dense kindle]

I'll try to use what i can, hopefully I can make it into top 64

[shell hazel]

with some CS 2.5RL looks very possible, without it's 3RL and slow

I'm probably going to send my own cackpot cooks in the end, Blood will laugh but it's at least a bit different to full cookie cutter

[umbral belfry]

doesn't noir brick sAnis bc ammo

[placid bloom]

I would take the extra SG's worth of normals than having an AoE nuke if it's same speed, you already lose every AoE nuke matchup in that case

[umbral belfry]

that's an odd team overall though

[placid bloom]

yeah but you're just trying to end them in the first few SG volleys if it's pure SG

no point trying to drag out the fight, there's no stall for SAnis to get a long fight

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

if you don't want SAnis, LapT is also okay

though having your fire split between p1/5 on defense can end up not being good

rather just have everyone shooting the same target and hoping enemy speed drops if the target dies

[shell hazel]

@umbral belfry did you lock in?

@wet crystal how far have you gotten sir?

[umbral belfry]

lock in what?

CA?

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/humpback-whale-whale-onthe12thfloor-stan-twitter-gif-3446111347746334272

[umbral belfry]

no sir

[wet crystal]

I've been addicted playing minigames, playing MOG

[umbral belfry]

MOG?

[shell hazel]

you can do it

[wet crystal]

I should progress ch24 tho...

[shell hazel]

man you both slacking

[umbral belfry]

OH MOTHERWHALE

[placid bloom]

arcade farmer

[umbral belfry]

I was like huh? 😭

[shell hazel]

yeah!

[umbral belfry]

but yes I beat it a while back

[shell hazel]

niiicee

you lock in for Nihil?

[umbral belfry]

I might be a new low cp clear for nihil 2 too

but I'm busy being surrounded by doggos rn

[wet crystal]

Malded on scarlet blade minigame getting every fight around 40 second clears

[umbral belfry]

yknow I forgot who the bosses even are for 23 onwards

[wet crystal]

Sir, idk how you do it fr fr

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/puppies-cute-puppy-lots-puppu-pet-gif-16333420

[umbral belfry]

outside of crystal chamber x3 and the eventually MC

[placid bloom]

mald for 20 sec clear with beta reset RNG

[umbral belfry]

we actually have a beagle pupper named sadie rn and she's so spoiled

okie break over nyoom

[shell hazel]

24 was full of annoying stages but the boss was easy

so many of the ones which chain you for 10 secs

[wet crystal]

@umbral belfry BTW idk how it worked but me and my guildie was randomly cooking and got thru your t2 and t3, didn't record cuz we thought it wouldn't work lol

[shell hazel]

24-34 was a particular highlight, not chainers but you get like 8 farters in a row lol

I need @quartz prawn to save me from 25-18

[shell hazel]

have fun (as if you could fail with doggos!)

[wet crystal]

Do you not get sec killed a lot? At that deficit and sync level

23-27 killed my units within a second of entering

[shell hazel]

depends, I had to 321 for 24-34 but was easy after

[placid bloom]

cover and build burst with 1 unit

[shell hazel]

some stages I needed RH + Rapi + Helm to burst quick

[placid bloom]

if bad targeting RNG, reset stage

[gritty ridge]

113k to 140k is gapped, isnt it

[placid bloom]

[wet crystal]

[shell hazel]

enemy cp * 0.846 you can just do it in calc

or use a website that does it, sure one exists that calcs deficit 😛

[wet crystal]

Pull up nikke gg cp stat deficit calculator

I think its the same, no? Pve/pvp

[shell hazel]

15.4% deficit for PVP and you hit penalty

less than 15.4% you're good

[gritty ridge]

[placid bloom]

can be winnable depending on your team

[gritty ridge]

Im once again stuck at c10, c9, c8

[placid bloom]

you will eventually start hitting 1s on the enemy though, you're probably close to that point

usually around 25-30% is when that happens

[shell hazel]

the stat penalty does differ for pvp a bit, but the 15.4% thing is a cliff

[placid bloom]

that's not 140k

[gritty ridge]

No but thats the def from calc

Its in the 140's

[shell hazel]

they're like 35 levels ahead of ya, you need to push levels faster or accept you can't get the top ranks

[placid bloom]

might be clearable though, Zwei double SG feed + Marciana is crazy

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/home-alone-you-got-it-plaza-hotel-home-alone-2-gif-15764065733782219796

[placid bloom]

since you have Ein to ignore Def

[gritty ridge]

Ill give it a shot, not like i have anything to lose

[shell hazel]

it's kind of pointless though you won't hold at 25% deficit

[gritty ridge]

Im comfortable diamond 1

[placid bloom]

limit testing

[gritty ridge]

I mean I burst first but it doesn't matter

[eternal finch]

Looking at this, question, I got Max Quantum. Is it detrimental to put it on all RL and SR? BEcause I am basically giving all of the teams almost full Quantum. Would that be detrimental?

[placid bloom]

[shell hazel]

adding more quantum may not really change your overall speed much tbh

best pvp cube to max is probably temperance, you only need quantum in the right places to get you to burst breakpoints

[eternal finch]

mmm gotcha. Maybe that's why my DEF is not working optimally.

[gritty ridge]

88k team vs 200k, not really a chance on that one

[shell hazel]

put the teams and things into nikke deck and see where quantum helps you the most, mostly it's best on common batteries (trina, centi, jackal etc) even so

[eternal finch]

I wish I could understand a lot of the math on that hahaha

[shell hazel]

if your team lacks Jackal, if it's like 98% 2RL then you need to add quantum somewhere to make it 100%

[eternal finch]

becayuse my brain says "faster burst build up will go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"

[shell hazel]

Jackal gets feed and can move your burst gen accordingly, hence I mention her here

the deck builder is like burst gen in a vacuum, if you're not hitting 100% then you likely will fall short

if someone dies or some other factor influences it, you can find yourself losing burst gen

[eternal finch]

Totally. I have been a bit casual on pvp, basically maxing everything regardless becuase I think is a number game.

[shell hazel]

yeah just gotta make the numbers work, more quantum can lose effectiveness

[eternal finch]

Will swap cubes once I figure out the most effective team around my ladder

[shell hazel]

in general I want temperance on p1 if possible and the quantums on units further back with RL or w/e as they get more benefit from it

[wild patio]

@loud sonnet

https://tenor.com/view/wesley-snipes-gif-5584660563414908453

dont make me do this

[shell hazel]

none of you are getting to CA at this rate 😄

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

[shell hazel]

there is no message if no one gets to CA, thought that was the goal? 😛

[wild patio]

I just want to chill between 4-6 man

[wild patio]

lemme lend you c4 ya @loud sonnet

[dire root]

Maybe.

[wild patio]

demn I literally used the gems from cdkeys 🥀

[swift mango]

You need to survive against 2sg at 25% deficit until Blanc burst first.

Zwei only feeds as much as normal SG though. SG double shot but only 5 pellets each shot

[tropic summit]

you only need quantum on teams that allows you to hit thresholds that you wouldn't without, or quantum on teams with jackal that could be pushed to next threshold via feed

@eternal finch to give you an example, this team would be 3RL without quantum, but 2.5RL with quantum, or 2RL even with massive commit

[strong hull]

[eternal finch]

https://tenor.com/view/megan-interesting-gif-14176736

yeha like I emntioned before, I thought more quantume meant "brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr burst fast"

[tropic summit]

it adds a bit of extra % mostly on RL units or high burst gen units

but it needs to hit threshold to be actually meaningful

[wintry viper]

hi @tropic summit can I ask for your help to update my SP Arena defense?

[next geyser]

help with the last 2 teams (have almost all nikkes)

[coarse solstice]

What is happening here 😯

[wet crystal]

chaos

[coarse solstice]

Game is addicting

[wet crystal]

my progress in pve took a pause for minigames

[coarse solstice]

Fair, I've been working on th Cinderella metroidvania game. It's pretty good too

[umbral crown]

To think 3 moths ago was the last time i had fun in SP against the whale who is 474 now

[umbral crown]

Rail cooking

[umbral crown]

Those are your best units?

[next geyser]

last 2 teams were automade, first 3 my sp arena teams

[umbral crown]

I see

Could you remove all units from team 4 and 5 and screeshot the remainin ones?

[swift mango]

My most prized Collab unit ever since I started playing gacha.

I don't get to see game which Collab with my favorite series often. They all go for mainstream cash grab.

[pale knoll]

Where she from

[swift mango]

Dungeon Meshi x Arknight Collab.
Guess, it's normal for Nikke players to not know about the most recent Fantasy masterpiece.

[pale knoll]

Does the mc get all the girls?

[swift mango]

It's about a party of 4 MC exploring dungeon.

And making dungeon monsters into delicious foods.

[pale knoll]

[swift mango]

Ofc some people can't appreciate masterpiece like Dungeon Meshi and Fullmetal alchemist because there is no harem in them.

[quick lake]

Dungeon meshi was reallyyy good

FMA over-rated

[swift mango]

I'm rarely calling something a masterpiece. Off the top of my head, I only remember Dungeon Meshi, Fullmetal Alchemist and maybe Houseki no Kuni.

I didn't even call my all time favourite Yu-Gi-Oh! a masterpiece.

Maybe if I look into it more , but not more than 10.

[upper grove]

Can someone cook up something new? I've seen a lot of blanc sbs rapu biscuit xmaiden 4RL teams in my bracket and my moran team lost against that last season

[quick lake]

Oh yes. Houseki no kuni indeed a masterpiece

[swift mango]

Doraemon is definitely a masterpiece I guess. So does Blackjack.

[quick lake]

My mainstream take is Oshi no Ko is really good

Monogatari, first season of Promised Neverland

[swift mango]

It's good but no where a masterpiece.

[quick lake]

I loveddd Oshi no Ko. Best few animes in recent memory. Maybe beside Freiren and Dungeon Meshi

mainstream but nice

[swift mango]

I guess Batman and Superman could be called masterpiece as well.

I have doubt about superman though

[quick lake]

Im not a Marvel/DC fan

[swift mango]

Both Oshi and Freiren were too dragging for their own good.

Just like how I didn't call Yugioh, Dragon Ball, Detective Conan .etc a masterpiece, so dragging and overstayed my welcome at some point.

[quick lake]

Hmm true

[shell hazel]

chainsaw man Reze arc movie thing btw https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1lf63zq/new_key_visual_for_chainsaw_man_the_movie_reze_arc/

[swift mango]

The only dragging story I could tolerate is Doraemon because of what it is.

[quick lake]

Probably Psychopass next. Absolutely stunning worldbuilding

[swift mango]

[quick lake]

I tried reading CSM manga… and couldn’t understand the plot

[shell hazel]

solo raid getting suspended so we get some compensation, hopefully it's a selector doll and today so I can finish lapT finally 😦

along with the materials

[swift mango]

Try reading fire punch to know more about the author.

[shell hazel]

it's to fix Raven, they said they'll send compensation not sure if it's today

[swift mango]

[quick lake]

Im just chilling, waiting for summer units and treasures

[swift mango]

Honestly you could read fire punch then try to predict what the author would do next. This author is elite at making "so shit that it's good story".

[swift mango]

https://comick.io/comic/sayonara-eri/gE5w6-chapter-1-en

Maybe try this one shot. I think this is enough to give you the impression of the inner working of this author.

[quick lake]

Will take a look

[swift mango]

Collab in october

[rich agate]

Are these defense teams good? I'm not the best at teambuilding and would apprciate any tips. I made these using nikke deck to check speeds. I wanted to use Siren somewhere here but I coulndt figure out where to place her

[bleak shale]

is it just me or does that scarlet profile pic make me think modernia

[umbral belfry]

that's surprising considering I felt that my t1 should've been the easiest imo, maybe t2. but either way (btw you're better off doing rh b1 and not liter b1 due to feed)

what defense to cook up next

[umbral belfry]

what am I even looking at 😭

[swift mango]

Okay, I think I called Claymore a masterpiece too. As it's the best action manga with female MC I have ever read.

Also, my monster's secret as well, as it's the most satisfying read of romcom school life series I have ever had.

Also, that Yakuza dude meet scifi little girls from the future manga...

and Gintama.

But these are personal preference,

[bleak shale]

yea until after the north and ||miria does a dumb||

then i stopped reading

[swift mango]

Miria is kinda the most badass girl in the series until the end though. What's you disagreement about her?

[bleak shale]

||when she went back to the organization and the macgyvered her way out||

[swift mango]

She refuse to hit other victim girls of the organization like her. And that's how her charisma made them following her to the end.

[bleak shale]

she shouldnt have done that to begin with, went from smart choices to absolute lunacy

[swift mango]

She is a girl with grit and principles.

[swift mango]

She was never a smart girl. She maybe calm and collect outside but the most childish and idealism out of the whole cast.

That's her gap moe.

[bleak shale]

my take was it was basically a dumb decision the author forced on her basically out of character (being the leader and keeping everyone alive) then deus ex machinaed her back into the story being a character the fans enjoyed

up until post north arc it was pretty good and it just kinda dropped off imo

[swift mango]

If you remember her past and all her choice up until that point it's always about sacrifice herself for others.

Sometime you need a leader like that so we have a good nation.

So long as you have other level head subordinates to support them.

[bleak shale]

i dont see that move as a sacrifice it was kinda just dumb

and realistically would have just ended there

[swift mango]

sacrifice is dumb.

[swift mango]

Yeah, 99999/100000 time it would fail but that one win was all it needed. We have many failure in the series up to that point already.

[bleak shale]

imo that win was deus ex machina basically

the author just pulled it out of left field and everything worked out

[swift mango]

To be frank she could always stand up and run always when the girl prepared to chop her up.

[bleak shale]

and she didnt

[swift mango]

Maybe because the girl avoided her vital to fake the chopping scene.

[bleak shale]

maybe arya from GOT came in and convinced them

iirc ||battle of the north|| was their last feature on monthly shonen jump

[swift mango]

Sometime deus ex machina is good. As Murphy law dictated, it would happen soon or later. Hundreds generation of girls failed to escape the fate of being puppet girls of the organization but this last one did.

Outside factor came in too, first the girls were young and untrained, they didn't nave time to dig in mind control and manipulation before getting them out to fight because of the unprecedented on going war. Next they saw other like them turned into mindless monster by that same organization. Then they remember the organization treated them like trash,

Next they see the rebel oh so badass onne-sama against their organization that treated them like shit.

[oblique ridge]

Claymore?

I don’t remember it well

[swift mango]

yes.

[oblique ridge]

But, basically, it’s fiction, so don’t think too much on it

[swift mango]

Oh wait, by my personal reference I would add, Azumi as a masterpiece too.

[swift mango]

But it's logical as to what happened to Miria. The real deus Ex machina to complain about in that series was Teresa just appeared at the end lol.

[bleak shale]

i mean its basically points i dislike about it basically reasons of why i dropped it

[oblique ridge]

Yeah, it’s meant to entertain, at least I think it was

[umbral belfry]

neeeeeeerdsssssss

[oblique ridge]

I remember being unhappy that the anime ended and there was no additional season

[swift mango]

I had moment of dislike too, but when I reread it recently after 10 years, it was all making sense. And I feel how childdish I was.

[oblique ridge]

So I went to read the manga to finish past that

[swift mango]

Miria was their most well built character, Not otherwise.

[oblique ridge]

And I vaguely recall going, “what the hell is going on…”

As in not liking it, lol

Which I think is past/start of the North Arc you guys mentioned

[bleak shale]

ya the anime ended after the north arc

[swift mango]

Yeah, it was open ending. But author next series proved that it was better to ended it there... The "... In the sky" series was basically the mainland arc of claymore... and it was much worse.

[bleak shale]

iirc thats when they went to a different publisher

after that arc

[swift mango]

I was talking about the manga though.... Peace brought back to the island nation of Claymore but the whole war in the main continent where the Organization came from never got continued.

https://comick.io/comic/gekkou-no-arcadia

This is what I talked about that could be treated as the mainland arc of Claymore.

It's about a boy explore the world in the human and dragon people war of the continent. Basically what few last chapter Claymore left off.

https://comick.io/comic/soukyuu-no-ariadne

The other one was the one shot, my bad.

[bleak shale]

i dont read anymore im a gacha player now i just watch my anime dubbed on the side while doing work

no time for entertainment only side view adult problems

[oblique ridge]

Team 1 is classic fast 2RL Cindy with Noah. Looks fine. Noise instead of Rumani better unless isn’t 2RL anymore.
Team 2 is ???
Team 3 is classic fast 2RL Scarlet with Jackal. Looks fine. Why not Emilia in p2?

So I guess make sure you like your team 2

[bleak shale]

team 2 lacks protection in general tbh, 4x shotgun will melt that noise and then its gg no burst

[oblique ridge]

The problem with your team 3 is that your Emilia is going to be 3rd linked but she is in p4 instead of p2

But that’s… maybe not too important anyway

[bleak shale]

needs either another b1 as back up or a complete revamp (with something to protect after burst as well)

same with cindy team tbh

[oblique ridge]

And Noise isn’t with Cindy

[bleak shale]

but cindy team is faster so less issue, still pretty rough tho

[oblique ridge]

But that’s for speed reasons, I guess

[bleak shale]

im pretty sure noise in cindy team is still 2

from off the top of my head

if that helm is s1 lvl 10

[wise horizon]

it kinda worked. first battle, centi and rumani got stunned. second battle, moran and bay got stunned. very RNG >.<

[haughty mortar]

Can I enlist assistance from y'all?

How do I integrate Crown in my lineups?

[placid bloom]

not in PvP unless you are CP padding.

[haughty mortar]

Well then deffo not in PVP as she is still fresh off the pull

[rich agate]

How is this? I tried just putting together something decent for team 2 as I didnt really know what else I could throw together

[rich agate]

emilia isnt linked here, her att lower than scar and RH

[rich agate]

Yeah cindy and scar team are both 2 and SBS team is 3

[forest zodiac]

can someone help me please with CA teams pls pls
my shiftypad https://www.blablalink.com/shiftyspad/nikke-list?uid=MjkwODAtNTk2MDgxNzQwNDgxMzY0NzYwOQ%3D%3D

[rich agate]

Yeah I added rumani and biscuit to help a bit with this but cant do much about after burst I think

[gritty ridge]

How long you think I keep this spot

[oblique ridge]

Oh, okay. I see

[rich agate]

would a team with blanc/Sanis/xmaiden/biscuit/Rumani work?

swapping out maiden for anis puts me at 2.5 so I think that should hold me over

[lunar pawn]

claymore discussions?

[sleek imp]

I just got Centi, Is it GG for me in pvp content?

[umbral belfry]

why would it be gg 😭

centi is an essential battery

[swift mango]

In PvP she is used as off buff buffer or slower burst speed of team. mostly for attacking. Could use her in CA maybe. That's it.

[sleek imp]

Who is she best paired up w? Cindy + biscuit if im not wrong?? Shes a defender, correct?

[sleek imp]

GG as Im done for progression

[umbral belfry]

Basically any team (often scar or noah cindy for 2 rl)

[swift mango]

9 seconds.