pvp-arena

[placid bloom]

if it is, then Jackal will actually get indom and wall their team

though DrakeT burst might kill Anis anyway

[oblique ridge]

Either way, even if it's a "oops, I'm not bursting" Emilia, just 10 seconds of basic attacks from her will kill the enemy SGs

[dim escarp]

is nero moran helm full cope for SP arena def ?

[oblique ridge]

They'll be pretty beat up from others in the team too, it's not like they'll be at full hp at FB time

[shell hazel]

we are all enriched here together

[dim escarp]

by this I mean, is bay just better ?

[lunar pawn]

yea

[jagged mesa]

All the __% bricked names confuse me too

I don't even know the basis for the %

[oblique ridge]

I think I misjudged R3 Looking at it closer, both teams will burst simultaneously.

And in this process, it's likely that HelmT will burst kill the highest ATK on enemy team. Which probably will be BScarlet (not guaranteed).

So, what happens if she burst kills BScarlet first? Then Emilia will be bursting her nuke. While team is still stuck on Indom Rapunzel.

[placid bloom]

Helm isn't instant, they'll both burst and SBS will die after bursting

[oblique ridge]

RIP

[placid bloom]

I don't think Emi LapT kills through dmg reduc stall with Helm healing

[oblique ridge]

Do you think Nero can hold on long enough for FB to happen?

Nero is the team's only B2

[wicked horizon]

What are the odds I win this one?

[placid bloom]

3RL timing is a bit hard to check too

[wicked horizon]

Who even bursts first if the burst speeds are the same?

[oblique ridge]

There can be frame level differences

[wicked horizon]

Well, under the assumption both players have one unit with no charge speed bonuses.

[oblique ridge]

Bullets from Scarlet, charge speed from team, etc

[placid bloom]

if I go by Gatrix's sheet, 3RL B1 is roughly 3.32 and B2 is 3.74, so if there needs to be a rocket splash at around 3.5RL to hit Rapu after she heals at B1

otherwise SBS still has lowest HP and gets Blanc indom?

[umbral belfry]

I swear it feels like helms is instant

granted one match was with a helm without bay and helm bursted first. unless scar has delay?

[oblique ridge]

Oh? It works like that? Rapu heals to full health despite her p2 spot and BScarlet actually gets indom?

[placid bloom]

you can see her water missile coming in from the side of the screen

well this is assuming Rapu has lv10 burst

that would actually be enough to top everyone back to full

[jagged mesa]

Idk about PvP but helm burst is SO SLOW to apply in other content

[oblique ridge]

We could compare Rapunzel power

[umbral belfry]

when helms burst hits a random mob bc you didn't manual

[placid bloom]

easier just to check the prev match tbh

[oblique ridge]

Replays disabled

[placid bloom]

[jagged mesa]

You can't control helm burst targeting 😭

[oblique ridge]

Though maybe I looked back too far

[placid bloom]

nice system

[jagged mesa]

Unless you mean you wipe out the small units

[umbral belfry]

then best pray

[wicked horizon]

Maybe this instead.
If I swap RH for Mermaid, I could probably stun Bay.
But then, will Helm one-shot my Scarlet before Scarlet one-shots their team?

[placid bloom]

replay is only available for 24h

[wicked horizon]

Are all the bursts instant?

[placid bloom]

after that it's deleted

[oblique ridge]

I noticed if I tap the wrong person's play button, it gives me the... way-back match rather than the current one I'm trying to view. Maybe I did that

[umbral belfry]

bay p1

[lunar pawn]

At same speed, helmT nuke would be delayed as opposed to sbs or emilia bursts, so enough time for sbs to burst

[wicked horizon]

I can't afford to hit someone if I'm not >90% sure I'll win. 😔

[umbral belfry]

ironically you would want rh bursting here anyway due to bay being unable to stop her. but helm is gonna boom your link

[oblique ridge]

I turned on screen shake.

I already feel enriched (and jiggly)

[wicked horizon]

I'm swapping RH for Siren.

[umbral belfry]

i wouldnt

[shell hazel]

that's the best way to get proper jiggles

[umbral belfry]

I have doubts whether bay's cover would survive 2 rl at p1 to begin with

bur if bay is stunned, I can see helm still booming link

[wicked horizon]

Regardless, I can't stop Helm.
So I have to kill them before they kill me.

[umbral belfry]

yup

[wicked horizon]

But I don't know how that timing goes.

[dim escarp]

why everytime I ask quesiton about bay I don't get an answer might be the 4 time

[umbral belfry]

from personally experience, 2 rl helm hit faster than my 2 rl scar even on a non bay team

[wicked horizon]

Faster animation?

[umbral belfry]

I'm not 100% sure if it's rng or if scar burst has a wee bit of delay

[umbral belfry]

is bay better than?

[dim escarp]

@umbral belfry

was wondering the dif

[placid bloom]

Bay requires less invest that's for sure

[wicked horizon]

@dim escarp I don't know if it's cope, but I've never seen it. I would question why you'd invest in it as much as for it to be your best team?

[placid bloom]

and she's RL instead of SMG

[umbral belfry]

nero is better than bay on a full stall team, yes. but nero (and moran) needs very high investment. while bay needs minimal

[dim escarp]

CA

[umbral belfry]

but if you're asking at high investments who would win, a nero moran helm would win over a moran bay helm

[dim escarp]

my nero is 10/10/10 on her way to be SR15 atm

[umbral belfry]

if the nero moran helm team isn't invested, then it's the latter

[wicked horizon]

You said SPA

[dim escarp]

alright then tyvm

[umbral belfry]

in that case I'd use nero moran helm if you know she's close to sr15

[dim escarp]

nah I mean, I DID invest nero for CA, but I wonder for SP hahaha

[umbral belfry]

it's just a better stall team at high invest

[gritty ridge]

Do yall think i win this?

[placid bloom]

my SPA defense is finally holding this filthy CP gapping gemming dude shall no longer sit in my CA spot

[gritty ridge]

I lose 1 and win 3 so it's up to 2

[umbral belfry]

cp gapped, no sir

[umbral belfry]

kuwon back in CA?

[tropic summit]

36% deficit against you, that's default loss

[gritty ridge]

[umbral belfry]

rail

[placid bloom]

he disappoints me, took my spot and didn't even make it out of groups

[jagged mesa]

Get the fk away from me

[placid bloom]

[jagged mesa]

I better not see u for the third time

[wicked horizon]

Actually, what if I instead try this?

[gritty ridge]

3 is nicer at least

[umbral belfry]

kuwon comes back and it's instantly ash vs kuwon

[tropic summit]

what's noah there for? cheering? you're B2ing with biscuit

[jagged mesa]

Better the fk not be, he kicked me out season 1 and season 2

[placid bloom]

well my team is gonna be ass because I need to divert resources to SB units

[jagged mesa]

Back to back

[placid bloom]

and still no Noah

[wicked horizon]

I keep forgetting to account for burst order when swapping units around.
Good catch.

[jagged mesa]

Same boat

[dim escarp]

do you know the perfect team for ? I use atm nero moran helmt mana rapu

[umbral belfry]

bullied

[dim escarp]

nothing urge tho I m top 2 since 10month

[umbral belfry]

that seems like a staple stall team yeah. that's a lot of variations iirc. but often times I see nero moran helmt rapu (and last sometimes is lapt/xmaid/quiry)

try asking @umbral crown they have a pretty good stall team

[tropic summit]

run a full defender team against T2

[dim escarp]

tyvm

[umbral belfry]

[gritty ridge]

Alright dailies are done for sp

[wicked horizon]

Okay, this though?

[tropic summit]

something like this

[umbral belfry]

W

[wicked horizon]

Bay is going to block Cinderella though?

[tropic summit]

ye this approach also works

[gritty ridge]

I got cp gapped in 2, tho rh was close to solo clutching

[wicked horizon]

I bursted with Cindy against this guy last time, and it barely tickled him.

[tropic summit]

bay is in p1, her cover will be gone, but the worst part of her burst is that it is crap against multi-hitting nukes like cindy or emilia

[wicked horizon]

idk, worked last time, I really don't know what to say.

[umbral belfry]

as a tip for the future, it's often times better to focus on fighting 2 teams rather than 3, just for the sake of evening out units

[tropic summit]

maybe you were in deficit?

[placid bloom]

Bay vs Cinderella depends on if someone else pops her cover before Cinderella can land her burst since it's quite delayed

[wicked horizon]

Okay, "tickled" is an overstatement, but they were left with about half health.

[gritty ridge]

1 and 2 are the only pvp built teams, 3 is just whatever popped in with auto

[placid bloom]

at full cover it should eat the entire thing

[umbral belfry]

ahh gotcha

[wicked horizon]

Well, the last pic I sent is looking good though, I'll give it a try.

[tropic summit]

if bay is in p1 and she still has full cover at 2RL, there's something very wrong

[wicked horizon]

More worried about the 3RL Noah somehow blocking 2RL Scarlet on team 1.

[placid bloom]

who is using p1 Bay

this some new technologies

[gritty ridge]

I need to put jackal in somewhere

[umbral belfry]

bay p1 cover living by a thread

[jagged mesa]

Technologia

[wicked horizon]

He's constantly rank 1 in my SPA because no one attacks him.

Rank 2 and 3 could easily take him down, but they're content with their positions, and haven't moved from there in months.

[umbral belfry]

I'd put her in t2. but fair warning that your attack teams will depend entirely on the opponents def. meaning those teams will not always work for different opponents

[gritty ridge]

Yeah ive still gotta learn how to actually pvp

[wicked horizon]

[umbral belfry]

you'll get there

torn number 1

[jagged mesa]

Now you got a target on your back

[wicked horizon]

I'll be back in Diamond by tomorrow.

[umbral belfry]

they're gonna bite your ankles just like how folian does to me sometimes

[placid bloom]

you hit Chinese person

their gang will come for you in 10 minutes

[wicked horizon]

Wait, he's actually in the same guild with the whale in position 2.
😰

[keen vapor]

Oh no

[umbral belfry]

oh it's up for you

https://tenor.com/view/promethozeen-gif-21622529

[jagged mesa]

Me fr

[keen vapor]

Owari da

[placid bloom]

I wonder if there's a SPA group where 1-10 are all the same union

[jagged mesa]

By the way, I was bored enough to snoop around my reroll accounts to check out various ark ranking groups

I haven't seen a single player come close to you or folian

[wicked horizon]

Someone's reroll army

[umbral belfry]

this is the power of

[jagged mesa]

So unless you move up in account creation date brackets, it's a lock

[umbral belfry]

folian is gonna be biting at my ankles until the end of time

[jagged mesa]

Or maybe I strike the lottery

[umbral belfry]

[jagged mesa]

I start blasting 11 wipe outs per day

[umbral belfry]

Jesus

[bleak shale]

if i strike the lottery i would stop playing nikke

[jagged mesa]

I reroll every single dispatch until it's 8x 3x core dust

[gritty ridge]

Thoughts?

[umbral belfry]

for rookie? sure. but wouldn't for sp

[tropic summit]

if a group of friends all started their account near the same time (day, specifically), quite doable

[gritty ridge]

Yeah it's only for rookie

[umbral belfry]

too many valuable units on one team that's better spread out if sp

[umbral belfry]

then not bad

but put jackal p5

[tropic summit]

you'd win the lottery if you'd stop playing nikke

[gritty ridge]

Rh and siren are the only things keeping that teams cp up

[bleak shale]

i wouldnt because i dont play the lottery

[placid bloom]

oh I just saw ura lost, so only cup is still in the running for repeat champ

[tropic summit]

a smart person

[umbral belfry]

this CA has been wild

[tropic summit]

that's a waste of money, nearly as bad as gacha but at least gacha gives you 2D waifus

[jagged mesa]

If I win the lottery, what's the most degen act of spending I can do in nikke

[umbral belfry]

max core crow

[tropic summit]

buy out the p2p store

[gritty ridge]

Hmm

[placid bloom]

buy Keripo's account

that's the real play

[umbral belfry]

good news is that they feed you a lot. bad news is your Noah is stunned

[tropic summit]

that jackal needs a doll asap

[bleak shale]

the 2nd good news is that ur noah wil still wall them while stunned

[umbral belfry]

that's a baby acc leave em be

[bleak shale]

cuz biscuit

[gritty ridge]

Im mainly a pve account i just started focusing pvp

[jagged mesa]

Do you guys think there's a whale out there that literally rerolls every single line of dispatch

[bleak shale]

yes

[placid bloom]

yes

[umbral belfry]

somewhere out there yeah

[bleak shale]

i dont think i know of a few

[jagged mesa]

I mean every single line

[wicked horizon]

I don't think it's worth it even for a whale tbh.

[bleak shale]

yes, i literally know of them they go for doll mats

[wicked horizon]

You can just buy core dust.

[umbral belfry]

I only reroll certain things, but not every single thing

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

I don't think someone making 8 digit income cares about 50 gems

[bleak shale]

when ur sync 900 do u think they care about rerolling dispatch

[wicked horizon]

But they care about the time spent rerolling.

[gritty ridge]

Noah did her job

[tropic summit]

a sacrifice to the blood gods

[wicked horizon]

Why roll for a measly few boxes when you could buy a few hundred, faster.

[placid bloom]

it's okay they can get someone to do that too

[jagged mesa]

#questions message

By the way, look at this STARTING dispatch list my alt got

[bleak shale]

solo raid malders dont care about that either tbh, they buy out doll mats then roll

[placid bloom]

I already know people that don't do their own dailies

[bleak shale]

malding takes time anyways

[placid bloom]

they got their henchmen

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-should-been-gif-23901254

[wicked horizon]

All the money in the world wouldn't make me skip dailies.
(I'd just uninstall.)

[jagged mesa]

Not 4sh so it doesn't matter 😔

[umbral belfry]

[placid bloom]

I'm okay with having just average luck in this game

as long as the people with better luck than me are not in my bracket

[umbral belfry]

imagine skipping dailies on a full burst day

[bleak shale]

i wish i wasnt bottom 11% rng on pulls

[umbral belfry]

all of those rocks

[jagged mesa]

Honestly, I'm one rouge and Noah away from being entirely satisfied with my roster

[umbral belfry]

[jagged mesa]

I lied I want arcana because arcana

[umbral belfry]

understandable

[placid bloom]

I don't even use Rouge outside of raid anymore, I even kicked her out of MC team

okay nvm I do use her for tower

[jagged mesa]

I need rouge for Tetra tower

[umbral belfry]

I just use for tower

[bleak shale]

overclock infinite

[jagged mesa]

Tetra tower is true suffering without her

[umbral belfry]

oh I think I forgot to do tetra tower yday oops

[jagged mesa]

Isn't she needed for Cindy anyways

[umbral belfry]

for pve yes

but I think that's more raid?

[wet crystal]

@umbral belfry Here you go

[oak rivet]

I never got the Comp

[umbral belfry]

poggies

I can change

I CAN TEST COMPS

time to nyoom to pvp

[wet crystal]

Let me enjoy an hour's worth

[placid bloom]

accepting bribe to let you hold spot for 1 hour

[umbral belfry]

I mean I coulddddddd

idek know your teams though, lemme check

[jagged mesa]

No I don't allow it, hime took r1 from me in rookie before I could even paste screenshot in here

U have to be fair about this

[umbral belfry]

LMAOOOO

he has a point

[jagged mesa]

Not even 20 seconds

[wet crystal]

Counter offer, what if I let u take c1 and take a ss of it

[umbral belfry]

wait foliannis above me in sync

what ungodly f2p have you been doing

[wet crystal]

Tactical F2P

[jagged mesa]

I'm in bed and I'm too mentally handicapped on my phone to play

Actually, folian you know hime is coming after you right now

Just sit in PvP swapping your team 1 2 3 position nonstop

Hime will never align her team correctly

[wet crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/bakamitai-dame-da-ne-gif-18169555

[placid bloom]

you haven't seen the hidden technology of busting out 3 500k CP team

[wet crystal]

Bout to be hime

[jagged mesa]

Up until a couple days ago Hime's PvP team cp gapped my campaign team

[wet crystal]

She runs all teams at 400k+

[jagged mesa]

Folian u have to trust me

Start spam swapping your defense team order

Don't give hime a chance to counter

[wet crystal]

Imma drive off for dinner, come back a C2

[jagged mesa]

it's Pleiades time

[wet crystal]

Has Pleiades attempted c3?

[jagged mesa]

Hime is too quiet right now, ur cooked bro

[jagged mesa]

Idk I'd have to check

[umbral belfry]

it's time

do you want me to record

[umbral belfry]

😭

[jagged mesa]

Gg

You had your fair share of fun up there folian

Time to rejoin me

[wet crystal]

Yes

[wet crystal]

It was enjoyable

[placid bloom]

wym, he still has 1350 attempts left

[fringe patrol]

What’s the counter to a team with Scarlet Siren and Trina?

If I don’t have Trina

[wet crystal]

F2P

[jagged mesa]

The highest I've ever saved at once is 75k

[wet crystal]

I lasted a whopping 15 minutes in c1!

[placid bloom]

I should have a bit over 120k atm

should be enough for collab and summer and still be able to mileage 3rd anni pilgrim

but if I don't get Noah in that duration it's still cooked

[jagged mesa]

Time to start pulling standard

[jagged mesa]

You could use your own siren to stun their scarlet if p1, or Noah to block their nuke if you can avoid getting stunned by siren

[umbral belfry]

it is done

[jagged mesa]

I still think you two should nuke your def squads for a day to see if anybody even attempts to poke you

[umbral belfry]

😭 idk why my recording is messed up, but I just scar siren jackal t1 and cp gapped t2 with 2 rl noah cindy

that t3 was clever though

if you wanna attempt again I I try to get another recording

[umbral belfry]

I already know dkaze is picking his lips

[wet crystal]

k

[jagged mesa]

Not as long as I'm ahead of him

Dkaze probably checks my spa cp daily

Waiting to pounce

[umbral belfry]

what the

YOU GAINED 2 LEVELS

it's been less than 30 mins!!

okie I will go record

[wet crystal]

No I haven't

[umbral belfry]

[wet crystal]

It certainly isnt about to be 1 more level

[umbral belfry]

HELPPPPP

[jagged mesa]

Wtf

[umbral belfry]

do you want me to wait until.youre 331

321*

[jagged mesa]

U guys are on a different plane of existence

[umbral belfry]

folian is a bigger whale than me

[wet crystal]

331 sounds good, thats a week's worth of c1

[umbral belfry]

321

[wet crystal]

F2P*

[umbral belfry]

okay I'm gonna do it

[wet crystal]

That dragon is going down today

But first I'm hungry

[umbral belfry]

wait for me I'm still trapped at hard mw

[jagged mesa]

Ah fk I had forgotten, ch22 is nihilister again right...

[umbral belfry]

yeah

okay lemme go record and pray it works

[jagged mesa]

I'm literally gonna be walled for like 3 months in hard mode

Nihilister mw nihilister.....

[umbral belfry]

you actually hit 321

this still looks like cp gap hm

nearly 100k

[jagged mesa]

Wtf that's a 51 synchro gap now u guys need to STOP

[umbral belfry]

it's folian not me now

[wet crystal]

My main is pve and towers, progress shall not stop

Also, the avatar frames

[jagged mesa]

SU GET ME OUT OF THIS BRACKET

[umbral belfry]

that recording should work

[jagged mesa]

Incredible cook for t3

[umbral belfry]

easier to aim for 2 teams rather than all 3

although I guess I could've moran bay helm t3 and noah bisc t3 hm

I'd need 2 b3s though

too much of a hassle

I guess alice and rh but hmmm

[wet crystal]

I just cook 3 to copy paste into defense

[pure moss]

ig Imma lock crit rate and reroll for atk

[umbral belfry]

hit rate

[pure moss]

what's your opinion on this?

[umbral belfry]

sounds right but also I will pray for your rocks

[jagged mesa]

Hey why don't you ask me

[umbral belfry]

you're defending?

[pure moss]

I'm on the right

[umbral belfry]

okay defending

[pure moss]

if you don't mind

[jagged mesa]

I don't know

[umbral belfry]

LMAO

[pure moss]

[umbral belfry]

uhh which stall team was you're again? the t1 one?

[pure moss]

yes

that's my stall

also 4-1

It was close tho

[jagged mesa]

I can't get over the mirrored portraits

Cursed

[pure moss]

we're fighting our mirrored dimension

it looks like I'm taking 3-2 in this fight

[umbral belfry]

T1 Leaning W, I feel like your overall stall team + heals + sustain will cancel out SAnis's burst
T2 W
T3 rng, but it's possible for sg + rosa to win over a scar team. it helps greatly that you're defending here
T4 ? might be possible for their nero moran helm to be 2.5 (and are they invested?)
T5 W

t2 and t5 are guaranteed regardless

[pure moss]

theirs is 3.5 mine is 3.7

total bp

pretty close in term of investment

[umbral belfry]

so fair chance their stall team is decently/good invested then

sr 15 dolls?

[pure moss]

i can log in on my phone and take pics

[umbral belfry]

you don't have to it's okay!

it's still a bit tricky to call, not 100% on that

I can see this going 3-2 yeah

[umbral belfry]

yeah that's hard to predict bc they just may be 2.5 too

[pure moss]

ye

[umbral belfry]

I feel like overall match you have the lean

[raven sparrow]

Any thoughts or insights on this battle please? Left is Attacker

[umbral belfry]

like all 5 fights

[raven sparrow]

shotgun doesnt kill maiden with biscuit protection right?

[umbral belfry]

Sgs will be stuck on moran

[raven sparrow]

oh they attack moran?

[umbral belfry]

if left is attacking, SGs hit p1

[placid bloom]

only RH shoots XMaid

[umbral belfry]

and that's no chance of moran dying

[placid bloom]

but she will shoot Moran once the taunt kicks in

[raven sparrow]

oh i got that confused

ok so moran team wins?

[umbral belfry]

[raven sparrow]

ok thank you

[umbral belfry]

I'd give it to moran team

[placid bloom]

no real splash on that team to hit Rumani to split Biscuit proc either, it's just Noah

[raven sparrow]

ok thank you, looks like most people are with you guys XD

[umbral belfry]

[jagged mesa]

Those stupid betting odds are the reason I don't have either of the betting borders yet

[raven sparrow]

i didnt put the rest because that was the only one i was unsure of

i think the other ones are... clearish?

4RL vs no burst
3RL vs 2RL
3RL vs 2RL
2.5RL vs no burst

think it splits even in these remaining 4 battles

[umbral belfry]

wait I leveled up

all of my yapping paid off

[raven sparrow]

congrats on gold lol

[jagged mesa]

Watch me evolve

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/gettowork-meditation-gif-13425937

[jagged mesa]

Now

Jk nvm

[umbral belfry]

looool

[raven sparrow]

i mean i could post them if anyone wants to see the battles out of boredom/curiosity though

[umbral belfry]

if one of the 3 rl vs 2 rl is a noah cindy mirror that would change things

[raven sparrow]

its this vs this sorry i couldnt put them into that deck builder thing, it doesnt have mihara bonding chain updated

so there was no way to put her into the deck?

[umbral belfry]

it should def have mihara

but it's fine

[umbral belfry]

what the

[raven sparrow]

i dont know why

am i using an old site link?

[umbral belfry]

[jagged mesa]

I swear I've put mihara os up there before

[umbral belfry]

did you not update yours?

[placid bloom]

[raven sparrow]

what? am i using an old link or wrong link?

[umbral belfry]

maybe

[raven sparrow]

wait you have to update it?

https://nikke-deck.web.app/
right?

[umbral belfry]

sometimes it says on the bottom that the site is updated

yes

[umbral belfry]

[raven sparrow]

that's so weird the site doesnt auto update itself lol XD ok thank you

with what you guys were saying about the moran team

[placid bloom]

Seem like you are one of those open 100 tab and never close browser type

[raven sparrow]

i was thinking its
w/l/l/l/w for left

and moran winner takesi t

[umbral belfry]

let's see

[raven sparrow]

right has some funky team 1 and 5s

those have like.. no burst gen at all...

his team 5 cindy is never getting off...

right?

[umbral belfry]

T1 Leaning Left but could get wonky if mihara dies bc DoT
T2 Right (rosa p2? )
T3 Right
T4 Left
T5 Left

hang on I got co fused

[raven sparrow]

sorry left (attacker) is deck builder

right defender is spreasheet

[umbral belfry]

having to go back and forth from the deck to the doc confused me a bit

[raven sparrow]

wait didnt you guys all just say t4 was right?

moran user vs that shotgun comp

[umbral belfry]

lemme double check I'm multi tasking

[raven sparrow]

saorry i should have stated the order lol

goes top to bottom
1
2
3

then right side
4
5
of spreadsheet

i should just have put updated deck builder version my bad

didnt know the site needed updating lol...

let me just build it on deck builder now that ive updated to make it easier to view lol

updated sorry

feels like top, bottom, bottom, bottom?, top

[umbral belfry]

T1 Leaning Top but it's wonky still with mihara possibly dying and siren stun
T2 Bottom
T3 Bottom
T4 Bottom
T5 Top

the weird one is t1

[raven sparrow]

yeah it is a weird one but it's so slow that...

doesnt LM and blanc never get off?

[umbral belfry]

mihara may die and moran is their only b1

[raven sparrow]

oh true.. hmm

[umbral belfry]

well siren doesn't need to burst for stun

[raven sparrow]

the stun hits a b2 right?

[umbral belfry]

and top team is slow so mihara DoT may catch up on them

[umbral belfry]

it hits whoever is p1 in this situation (moran)

[raven sparrow]

oh ok

[umbral belfry]

at 3 rl+ siren will stun a b1

[raven sparrow]

this is his last time's battle btw

he lost with that team but against a fairly stacked seeming team 1?

[umbral belfry]

that's def a weird team 😭

rapu has heals though so that helped

and possibly linked there

[raven sparrow]

hmm

if it helps at all here are investment levels

[umbral belfry]

so as long as bottom wins t2-t4 it's over anyway

[umbral belfry]

and t2 and t3 are guaranteed

[raven sparrow]

yeah those quick 2RL bursts and no invuln on other side in any way

[umbral belfry]

mihara isn't terribly uninvested, just meh

but moran team is 4 rl

not impossible for her to die

[raven sparrow]

that's like... very mid level of mihara investment

[umbral belfry]

midhara

[raven sparrow]

my own was this lol

[umbral belfry]

[raven sparrow]

but then again im dead and out XD

[umbral belfry]

same

yeah I would say t1 is the only ? bc there's a lot of factors and ways it can play out

[raven sparrow]

my mihara is chadhara

[raven sparrow]

ok ill stick with my bottom cheer then thanks for the insight!

[umbral belfry]

gl with your cheers

[wet crystal]

@umbral belfry @placid bloom How I prove we are F2P, the following is someone 200 servers younger than mine, 9 commander levels below, but 50 syncs ahead

then again, I'm not sure how the servers are made, does it fill in capacity then make a new one, or the create hundreds a batch?

[umbral belfry]

that sir is a true mother whale

but I'm not sure how the server numbers are made either

mayhap I was the true f2p along

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal rewarding t2 and what are your scar's skill levels

tickling me with trina and rh?

[wet crystal]

very cute 2 OL 7/7/7

trina at t9s 4/4/4, rh is being rh

taking down another dragon at the towers (3rd dragon today, cuz manufacturer tower 210 was nihil)

[umbral belfry]

get em

@wet crystal gonna try a different cook before I use my other one, try it out whenever you wanna

[wet crystal]

t3 counter?

[umbral belfry]

perhaps

but t3 is an easy fix yes

[wet crystal]

ok, gonna record?

[umbral belfry]

wait i didn't set mine up yet LMAO

😭 i meant me!

my 100 gems

i mean i guess i could try moran bay for t2 and what i think can win t3

[wet crystal]

[umbral belfry]

making me try all 3 teams

i have to get on my phone to record though

noise p2 is a bit risky bc lap, but i have a lot of confidence in my noise

[wet crystal]

you have an xmaid?!

[umbral belfry]

you did'nt know?

[wet crystal]

nope

[umbral belfry]

she was my first ssr

[wet crystal]

I missed the banner, started too late

[umbral belfry]

actually unfortunate for both pve and pvp

okie i go record

my recording keeps messing up

but my t1 lost rng maybe? or mabye you changed something and i missed it

t2 was the same and t3 worked

[sleek imp]

20% defict... what is this

[umbral crown]

[wet crystal]

t1 lost is surprise, interesting rng, did it drag out to last one standing? T3, who got indom? did noah eat up all the bursts?

[umbral belfry]

wait i think i can save the recording

[sleek imp]

Hime is this you??

Was just checking my CA cheer

[wet crystal]

that comp

[umbral belfry]

that is indeed me yes

can't win em all

[sleek imp]

Is it bad?

[wet crystal]

I've just never seen liter,grave,SW

[umbral belfry]

oh i fixed the recording @wet crystal

[glad glade]

Just to be sure, is my prediction correct?

Crossed out teams are the losers. Top is attacking and bottom is defending

Of to note: T2’s Moran team tanked a 2RL Scarlet that is SR15 158k CP (so assumption is 10/10/10) and RH+Trina boosted

[wet crystal]

oooo send

[sleek imp]

4 month player bracket, we dont have anything

[umbral crown]

for nero teams there ar emany variations for for example if you fight 3 RL best way is use Nero/Moran/Quiry/HelmT/Rapunzel to stall and live to 2nd burst, because if ou do with helmt, noah will block and reject the lifesteal

[umbral belfry]

interesting, that's the first time I've seen my scar not wipe before she's at 10 10 10 with trina 4 7 7. I'm actually not sure what happened here

[wet crystal]

that 20% deficit is huge

[dim escarp]

The goat tysm
Do you know the optimal invest for Quiry?

[umbral belfry]

rosy goat of stall teams

[umbral crown]

max skill

[dim escarp]

then let's go

[umbral crown]

but mostly you want S1 and burst, S2 if im not mistaken is to give more hp to defenders

[dim escarp]

just after Nero 10/10/10 let's 10 all quiry

[umbral crown]

doll SR5 but the higher the doll the better

[dim escarp]

[sleek imp]

right 💔

[wet crystal]

it's just like when pokemon holds on to 1hp with the power of friendship

except it worked in my favor lol

[dim escarp]

on my wait to SR15 Nero then Rapu SR15, then Quiry I guess

she's already SR5 👌

[umbral crown]

yeah, if you can SR15 whole team is even better

[wet crystal]

noah nom nom

[dim escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/motivated-here-we-go-super-mario-open-mouth-gif-14546553

[umbral belfry]

literally bisc and rumani hung on by a thread 😭

okay now i can put on my new def

although i am tempted to put my jackal pos1

[umbral crown]

keep in mind do not run the team against scar trina rh or blanc teams with scar or emi as main B3

[wet crystal]

that is called B O N D S that nakama power

[umbral crown]

but besides that, team wins to any 3 RL team

[umbral belfry]

get that fairy tail nonsense outta here

[spiral onyx]

Surprising sweep
https://youtu.be/tRZqzbqccyI?si=fYW3hmz_AiWqTDb4

[dim escarp]

Yeah I guess it's perfect for a 3rd team, I m not in trouble in SP but I just want the comfort

[umbral belfry]

@wet crystal there

that's what i meant by my t3 😭

[vague slate]

Its unfortunate that I'm placed in the same CA as you lot, even though I started a few months after

[umbral belfry]

[vague slate]

I think I'm in the tail end of filling up the CA league, server 11424

[umbral belfry]

bad news is i think the bracket we're in is the baby bracket (highest commander level 400-ish). there's no bracket under ours so

uh oh

[dim escarp]

They stopped trying when I got 40+ level, so I can't do test anymore

[vague slate]

Yeah I'm the baby in the baby bracket because we havent had a new bracket in a few months heh

[umbral belfry]

🐣

[vague slate]

I assume thats how it works anyways, Ive been cheering & seeing the same people

[umbral belfry]

congrats if you make it to CA though and pray you don't meet a much much more higher commander level vs you

while it is possible you could win, they will 99.9% have more invested units overall due to more time played the game

believe in rng matchups

[vague slate]

trueee rng shall lead the way

[dim escarp]

Let them burst

[glad glade]

Anyone?

[wet crystal]

let rng match you thru bots and pve focused accounts

[umbral belfry]

looks right

[vague slate]

Do you guys focus on SR at all?

[umbral crown]

yeah, it s agood team for sp. so you can focus your 2 teams for noah biscuit and blanc

[vague slate]

or straight campaign->pvp

[glad glade]

Perfect, thanks

[umbral belfry]

not me

granted i lean a touch more into pvp

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/uhhhhh-gif-7739071221619055385

just to get doll kits

[wet crystal]

SR as in solo raid? I try, since I already lean towards pve and towers

[umbral belfry]

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

[wet crystal]

We've used enough gems for today

[umbral belfry]

there's only one thing to do

but yeah try it whenever you want! there's no rush it's nice testing comps anywho

[wet crystal]

[umbral belfry]

now the question is do i dare mald mw again

[vague slate]

oh facts

[umbral crown]

@dim escarp its what i use against this team daily

[wet crystal]

current CP? within range?

[dim escarp]

the invest

we are barely the same level but you have like 100k cp more on this team

I m 370

crazy

[umbral crown]

[dim escarp]

the dolls SR15

[umbral crown]

Having cores help

[umbral crown]

I have 21

[dim escarp]

Indeed I miss core on Nero and my Moran is just MLB

[umbral crown]

The other pvp units are invested as well

[dim escarp]

13

[wet crystal]

ever tried mana for quiry? how is it?

[dim escarp]

you are f2p ? cuz I m big spender

[umbral crown]

Have not tried it yet to be honest

[umbral crown]

Kinda, i just buy skins from time to time. Nothin else

not even the 30 day supply pack

[dim escarp]

alright so you might have start few time before

I see

[umbral crown]

February last year, during maid privaty banner

[dim escarp]

well I ll follow you on this team

[dim escarp]

Oh damn alright, I did start on the cheerleaders banner last year

[umbral belfry]

[dim escarp]

But started to whale around February 2025

[umbral crown]

My rivals are mostly 20-40 levels higher than me

[umbral belfry]

pls....don't make me put rocks into fixing my crown

[umbral crown]

[dim escarp]

lucky on this

[umbral belfry]

[dim escarp]

I have a poseidon

[wet crystal]

I had to for mine

[umbral crown]

C1 is 468

[umbral belfry]

MY PVP INVESTMENTSSSSSS

[dim escarp]

Mb

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/noooooo-depression-meme-spiderman-gif-19814282

[wet crystal]

just push more sync

almost 500k

[dim escarp]

my C1 is 430 with almost all nikke c7

[umbral belfry]

i don't wanna

[umbral crown]

The boi soon 2.8m

[dim escarp]

dude is eating good, AND this mf started to invest pvp for CA, soon it's going to be over for us

[dim escarp]

[wet crystal]

welp, don't rush, the dragon is just peeking around the corner anyway

[umbral crown]

waos

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-gif-15190379

and i can't push tower rn bc wtf is that boss

nothing i do WORKSSS

[dim escarp]

[wet crystal]

I don't remember what cucumber did, we're the sides part breakables? Took me a couple tries too

[dim escarp]

dude is such a kraken

[wet crystal]

is that cn or sea?

[dim escarp]

global

[umbral belfry]

i think so? all i know is tha even with my helm burst he booms me, so i just

this is why i hate cucumbers

[dim escarp]

I just have my Cinderella to flex

[umbral belfry]

fellow max alice spotted

[umbral crown]

170k cindy

[wet crystal]

I think I had to dodge/block time some hits

[umbral belfry]

oh no, my one weakness: dodging

[wet crystal]

that some max OL perfectly ideal cindy damn

[umbral belfry]

but today isn't mald day. today is hsr day

[umbral belfry]

my cindy is uh...

[umbral crown]

i rememer i had a rival with max core cindy, just do not remember his name. it was like chinese or so

im also global

[wet crystal]

I'm still slogging thru 3.2 story

[dim escarp]

I had some crazy luck with cind

[umbral belfry]

[umbral belfry]

would u like a mlb scuffed cindy in return

[dim escarp]

one dude in my union know you very well (he was in your bracket).. so maybe he can tell

[umbral crown]

bro eating good

[umbral crown]

oh really, whats his name

[dim escarp]

Issoutial (but he is f2p and barely pvp invest) today again he told me you had some pain against one dude in rookie before

in his bio

that's the name of the guy

[umbral crown]

in rookie only one i had some fights for a while was weij, we were once doing x5 on each other but most of the time in rookie people just avoids me, they onced avoided me for like 6 months

name sounds familiar

now we just do x1 daily

[dim escarp]

with your invest bet they avoid you

it was just matter of time

[umbral crown]

i even was doing x2 in C2, X2 in C3 and X1 C4

[dim escarp]

[umbral crown]

now i change comp daily in rookie, weij at least has a new comp daily to beat

[dim escarp]

that's sick lmao

I should try this

after Raven (I cope she will be pvp good) I ll go all in for quiry

[umbral crown]

but in rookie i do not use nero team, just in sp so if they wanna learn how to beat it they need to go there

but at this point many people know how to counter it

but once your team is tanky enough and not in deficit the chance to win is high

[dim escarp]

yeah I just one strong scarlet nuke or reiA and dead

[dim escarp]

In CA a moran/bay did resist to my Cinderella (without helm buff)

I started to realize the power of these team at this moment

[umbral belfry]

moran bay stronk

[dim escarp]

it's huge

so while going Moran / Nero, I can do Noise / Bay in another team ?

no idea if it's good

[umbral belfry]

i heard noise + bay is similar to moran bay but i can't personally confirm

[dim escarp]

[umbral crown]

also moran biscuit sanis

when i used to snipe, long time ago

when my sp was fun, having a rival was nice

[dim escarp]

Moran godlike

[umbral crown]

now i notice my moran has been op since last year

[covert lintel]

Aim bananamon

[crystal flicker]

The deficit just too high

[fast relic]

Hey all - I am seeing a couple of particular comps running around, one rookie, one SPA that I am having trouble effectively fighting. Looking for some guidance around the best ways to beat these on offense

Rookie

SpA

Typically the SP team will be paired with a SAnis team and a Cindy or Scarlet nuke

Pretend that first team is in the right order too

The SP team can boost health above what my nukes can take out, then just stall and whittle down the team after soaking the nuke. It's almost like a second noah

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Trina RH or Cindy Noise will cook them though, unless you're on deficit

The same can be said for Rookie

[fast relic]

Jackal in P1 stops the siren play

For rookie

[crystal flicker]

Noah taunt

[fast relic]

I'm typically on the edge of a deficit, so it varies day to day

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet RH then

Noah won't burst anyway

[fast relic]

True, but the outcome is still changed. I'll have to watch a few times and see what's happening

I don't have red hood - winter maiden sub works I assume?

[crystal flicker]

It's pretty simple, if your Scarlet die before burst, that means they have more CS

You need atk buff to fight deficit

[green summit]

I really need help... anyone have a decent idea?

[fast relic]

No one dies before burst, it's the after burst cleanup that determines the winner for rookie

[crystal flicker]

Liter also option

[fast relic]

Interesting, gonna see if I can burst in time with liter

Thanks!

[crystal flicker]

Right

[green summit]

Who do you think is favored for each battle?

[crystal flicker]

1. Right has Noah Biscuit to basically Nullify ScarBS damage
2. Nero Moran will taunt SAnis, Right HelmT will burst and kill Left HelmT, stall can leads to 2nd burst rotation where the other team can't enter another full burst
3. Similar speed, right has Blanc & ReiT to Nuke while Indom
4. Coin flip Siren stun
5. Right kill Noir, potentially also killing Rosa and or XAnne before burst

[green summit]

Thanks. @crystal flicker
On team 3. Does W.maiden have good burst gen in general?
I don't understand match 5 at all. Why does only right noir die?

[atomic wolf]

CHICKEN JOCKEY

[crystal flicker]

XMaiden just slightly lower than Noah, the team also slower, but will reach 2RL from feeds
Right team kill left Noir pretty fast because R dolls doesn't have Damage Reduction

[green summit]

ohh, thanks. I never took dolls into consideration during predictions. Thanks.

[keen vapor]

I DON'T LIKE MINECRAFT

Hi there

Bye there

[swift mango]

R
R
R
L
?

Right win

[green summit]

thanks

[swift mango]

Are you attacking or them?

[crystal flicker]

Attacking

[swift mango]

you will probably win 2-3-4 then. 1-5 is defending on investment.

[crystal flicker]

Are you doubting my investment

Anyway thanks!

[swift mango]

I started at the last day of Ade banner + rerolled one day, but I think my current account counted that day as well.

So it's only 1 to 3 weeks difference between us, not 1 month like I first thought.

[umbral crown]

but you almost lv401

[swift mango]

My first global account should be in same CA bracket as yours.

[swift mango]

I'm 410.

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

But only 2.28m

[umbral crown]

cp issues then

but not level issues

now everyone has 20-40+ levels over me

[swift mango]

I still keep my advice that if your SpA teams already maxed out you would need to invest in your campaign team.

Siren+Crown also have use for Arena

Unlike Rapipi

So go clear that mother whale already.

[swift mango]

I could Auto mother whale at your level.

[umbral crown]

now i have some thousand books there thinking where to use them

im also like: which unit to max doll now

[swift mango]

Siren to max doll so she could survive Scarlet counter. Same to Rossanna.

Crown to max doll for your Campaign team.

101010 Crown and Siren for campaign.

[umbral crown]

me few days ago: 7-10-10 blanc for pvp

[swift mango]

Blanc only need skill 3 max tbh.

[keen vapor]

Wait for new units

[umbral crown]

i had days thinking where to use books

saw blanc and say: why not

[swift mango]

Do you have Noir invested... Might as well use her.

Nvm then

[umbral crown]

noir 1-1-1, probably SR0 doll and at much 1 random OL

[swift mango]

At least 101010 your crown.
Sr15 1010x your Siren.
And you would have proper Campaign team. It's super cheap already.

Oh wait, lv7 your Resilience...

[umbral crown]

Its missing 1 battery for lv6, imma wait for SR

[umbral crown]

Might go for that

[keen vapor]

You must treat well your chocolate

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

That or you might have to start to buy packs when you fall behind too far on level.

[umbral crown]

Im kinda behind already, kinda everyone over 401 here

@keen vapor gib some moni

Need packs to keep the gap

MW hard 21 will have to wait 120 levels

[keen vapor]

I'm broke and paying intereses

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

You could try saving boxes until new campaign come and open it all after you clear those if your current SpA is safe.

[umbral crown]

Yeah, sp is the safest place in the world

Im.like keripo, just logging to collect chips

[keen vapor]

Rosy winning

[dire root]

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

You can't fail that

[umbral crown]

time to mimir then

[swift mango]

g9

[keen vapor]

G nine

[strong hull]

[wicked horizon]

Hmmm...
I'm thinking winners are Left, Right, ?, Left, Right

It's always the one match that decides that I can't figure out who wins.

I don't know much about SG teams in PvP. What's their win condition?

Are they going to kill Moran before Helm bursts?
Because it feels like they won't kill the right team after.

Two correct guesses in, I want to finally get the border.

[swift mango]

It's right for match 4. ReiT team got fed to 2rl.

But left for match 2 unless they are idiot and indom on Emi.

So it's the same.

SG win condition is simple, whether they could kill or 1 of their unit killed in 2-2.5rl

And Rossanna could one shot HelmT+LapT

[fiery parcel]

Anbody got this cheer for SEA?

I want to win the frame

So far this season all the ones i chose won

[summer copper]

Just view their teams and compare

[swift mango]

Maybe only me in this chat could answer your question without you providing pics. But that requires me to open the app. So maybe later.

[vapid lake]

i can too but i lazy

[knotty beacon]

[calm gull]

noah 2RL on 2nd team
1st maybe scar trina rosanna 2RL

[knotty beacon]

I don't have trina

I beat the helm team before but i forget i use what team

[crystal flicker]

1st team with Scarlet 2RL + Siren P3+
2nd team with Noah Cindy

[calm gull]

blanc?

tho it'll make your team 3RL

[knotty beacon]

Yes i think but not consistent sometimes i lose

[calm gull]

right

[crystal flicker]

Wdym

Just Siren that Noah & Nuke

[knotty beacon]

I will try

[calm gull]

how to make it 2RL then without trina, centi noise?

[crystal flicker]

HelmT

[wicked horizon]

A single Scarlet feeds like 20+ energy in 2 RL?

[crystal flicker]

7%

[wicked horizon]

How do they become 2 RL then? 🤔

If I remember correctly they were over 20 energy off. Sure, RLs contribute a bit too, but...

[wicked horizon]

So, you'd think left wins that one?

[quick lake]

@tropic summit @shell hazel
Nier rerun does this mean Emilia rerun soon!?!?

[glad glade]

So Pascal is coming back. How valuable is he in PvP as a burst genner?

[swift mango]

The whole team feed 40 bullets in 2rl

4*3.71(jackal with quantum)=14.42.

Just enough for that team to reach 2rl if you added quantum to Emi and Jackal.

[quick lake]

super niche, useless for 99.9% of teams

[swift mango]

Nier rerun in 1 month. CSM rerun in never.

[swift mango]

This is hard question. Moran with enough investment maybe tank whole SG team until burst. But without enough investment would just die.

[raven plover]

I used this last CA :icant:

[shell hazel]

oh no way Nier re-run let's go! 😮

[quick lake]

0.01% team

Now we will have more Makima in CA

[swift mango]

A a wrong birthday gift for me but oh well.

[quick lake]

Where my Emiliaaaaa

[swift mango]

It's your choice to keep her.

I'm kinda forced to pull 1 copies of each of these Collab characters just so I don't miss out.

[quick lake]

[balmy lark]

Ain’t no way bruh…freeze what you got goin on??

[raven plover]

just play 2 accs

[quick lake]

Now u’re doubly sure that ur CA teams are solid

[wild patio]

@loud sonnet

[loud sonnet]

[swift mango]

Your best rookie test partner is yourselves. Can't ask for better condition.

[shell hazel]

A2/2B are a bit mid right? like grab for collection/limited but aren't that great?

if so then I wonder if the play is to see what SB units are like (if both are good I'd look to MLB both if I can). Then 400 mileage into Nier for a copy of each just for collection?

[willow crest]

How I beat this team?

[quick lake]

Yeah, Nier units are niche T4/5 fire-weak raids. Plan is probably pull Stellar Blade, skip Nier imo

A2 has some pvp relevance ig, as a weaker(?) laplace

[shell hazel]

I don't mind trying to get a copy for collection at least

I guess I could also just pull and hope, 2% is never a bad shout at least

[swift mango]

A quick look at it , and Zet probably win 1-4-5

[swift mango]

No wait, that Midhara sacc can probably win Zero the 4th battle. So better bet on Zero then.

[shell hazel]

next we need re:zero re-run and I'll MLB emi + they'll add best girl Priscilla

https://tenor.com/view/priscilla-barielle-re-zero-season-3-gif-9285667230191393616

[willow raven]

where can i find some good pvp team comps? i pretty much have most units aside from re:zero (idk if they're still relevant, esp emilia

[swift mango]

Zero T4 can land indom on Anis and lose though. So better you bring it up here for others to solve.

[swift mango]

Better bet on Zero I guess. They are guaranteed to win 2-3 and their 4-5 has a chance to win as well.

[quick lake]

Propaganda teams in FAQ in Pins

[cedar orbit]

Switch Scarlet to Red Hood and switch Rapunzel to Biscuit.

[swift mango]

That's what we call part 2 rather than just rerun

[shell hazel]

yeah just seems nier will be re-run only

and re:zero has some potential for part 2 same as Eva (more good characters to add)

but the pt.2 can include the old units from re:zero

[willow crest]

My bad, my team is this one and I want to beat the other one

[cedar orbit]

The goals vs that team is to block Scarlet's ult, by looking at it, the team is about 3 RL, so you need a team who is at least 3.5 RL, while not dying to Scarlet's basic attacks. Noah blocks Scarlet's ult, Biscuit turns Noah invincible for 10 seconds. Now you only need a dps who can kill through Jackal link, Red Hood buffing herself is probably good enough

Alternatively you could 2RL Helm, she either 1 taps Noah or 1 taps the whole Jackal link before enemy team can burst

Assuming Noise has the 2nd highest attack on the team

[fiery parcel]

Tq bro

What's a good SG team on SPA? And which type of team is it good against?

On another note, can i win against a sync 427 team (if i upgrade to sync 389)? I will swap my noah T3 vs their scarlet T2, in this case

[shell hazel]

cp gaps up every 20 levels, 401 for next major one

you can multiply opponent cp * 0.85 = your recommended minimum per team

it's actually 0.846 but 0.85 is easier to remember lol

[fiery parcel]

In this case it's useless?

[cedar orbit]

Bunny Soda, Noire, Treasure Drake, Rosanna, Winter Anne, the team is very good against team who run unprotected slot 1 and or slow

[shell hazel]

put the numbers in cals you can see it

[fiery parcel]

To upgrade to sync 389?

[shell hazel]

it will add some cp but it's not going to add a lot

[fiery parcel]

No xanne. Any good alternatives? Rosanna is unbuilt

[fiery parcel]

Maybe about 2000 per level so maybe 10k max

[shell hazel]

I think I add like 1k per team per level or something

[fiery parcel]

Let me get the other team. Im currently comfortable at challenger 5 - both current challenger 4 and 7 are sweaty. Everytime i get to those stages, i get smacked back down to challenger 10

[cedar orbit]

Anne is important, since your slot 1 is squishy as well and will die. Alternatively, as B1 you can use Pepper and a clip RL as B2, but the team is worse, you solely go for killing unprotected slot 1

[shell hazel]

may scale higher

[fiery parcel]

Btw my noise is 4 x OL now. Now still missing SR doll. Centi, moran and bay are next on pvp list. Apart from pepper and rosanna

[cedar orbit]

You are lvl 400, should probably just OL every pvp unit that you run in SA

[fiery parcel]

Yeah. I am planning to eventually

[cedar orbit]

Moran and Bay are extremely situational and probably not worth using in SA

[fiery parcel]

But im still at 384 with eniugh coredust to 389

[fiery parcel]

Centi next then

Stellar blade investment can wait. Hahaha

Unless raven is broken or something

[cedar orbit]

Yeah, since they gave out the Drake mats, I have been sitting on them

[fiery parcel]

I spent them all

[cedar orbit]

I should level Rosanna, so I can cheese kill in CA like everyone else

[loud sonnet]

Since they gonna rerun nier collab is A2 worth getting for PvP?

[cedar orbit]

No

[wanton island]

i knew they would rerun most of these collabs

blood trying to create that fomo

[fiery parcel]

Is 2b good for pvp?

[wanton island]

man this means summer event wont happen until august

[swift mango]

Just 3-4sg+Rossana

It's good against most things without biscuit defending on investment. Or Moran, Makima, Cindy, Rei school.

[swift mango]

You need to have the CP. Otherwise, yes

[swift mango]

SB Collab mid June.

Nier rerun, early July.

Summer event, mid July.

No need August.

We probably having another Collab at october.

[wanton island]

they always do 2 fluff nikkes between events

[wanton island]

just 3 collabs this year

[swift mango]

Not this time. Nier rerun confirmed July 3rd

[wanton island]

yes, i know

[swift mango]

Nier is rerun, not new

If you count rerun as 1 then we already have 2 this year

[wanton island]

su said 3 collabs. a rerun is still a collab

[swift mango]

Apparently not, just check Eva rerun

[wanton island]

eva is not considered collab?

fml... im confused

[swift mango]

Eva 2 is counted as 1.

Eva 1 rerun isn't counted

Same stuff, SB is counted as 1. nier rerun is not

[wanton island]

if eva 2 is collab then so is automata 2

ok. so no new nikkes = rerun

[swift mango]

Nier is just rerun, no new story, no new character.

[wanton island]

your guidance is pretty sus anyway since we argued about collabs getting reruns in the first place

pretty sure they all getting reruns except chainsaw man

especially with china market

[swift mango]

This guy surely want to pick a fight.

[wanton island]

we alrwady fought. got eva and automata already

just watching the reruns flow at this point

[swift mango]

Idk wtf you are talk about but Okay

[swift mango]

CN is new run, not rerun.

[wanton island]

you said collabs NEVER rerun and we argued about it for hours last year

now reruns raining from the sky

[swift mango]

I never said Collab never rerun, just rare. And Nikke never did it before

[wanton island]

not gonna rehash this again

[swift mango]

Azur Lane got Collab rerun. Many game did. But Nikke didn't do it at that point. But one could hope with again of salt

[wanton island]

100% stellar blade will get a rerun too

the first hasnt even dropped

[willow crest]

A lot of knowledge, thanks I will try to do that

[swift mango]

Lol it's their own game. If they found it profitable they lose nothing for it.

[wanton island]

far cry from last year's "they never do rerun collabs"

[swift mango]

They could rerun SB 1000 times if they one.

[wanton island]

ans they will rerun it

[swift mango]

They never did rerun collab

[wanton island]

yet here they are. rerunning left and right