Looks like you’d replace Red Hood. Can you check the timing? As for whether that means you’re screwing Emilia’s damage and therefore would lose, idk. But this particular comp leaves little room to put Noise in - replacement candidates without destroying the comp and forcing you to devise a new comp are only Biscuit, Red Hood, and Helm Treasure. RIP. And replacing the wrong ones will wreck your burst gen or remove your invincible-proc-on-defenders benefit.
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no they only increased skill books, bd still only 18 boxes a day

So imo that leaves Red Hood and you’ll still have to check if RL speed is still enough with that swap. And the dmg part.
unless the old number was 9 boxes a day
i dont actually remember
Otherwise, time to design a new comp
we won't get surface content with more resources until 3rd anni 
i value skill books more than bd boxes
Is this enemy Jackal p1 and Siren p2? The direction flip confuses me. The Noise thing I was talking about only works if Siren’s in either p1 or p2 otherwise Noise won’t be taunting Siren. You also need to make sure your Noah’s taunt isn’t overriding Noise’s - you might need to move Noah to be right side of Noise if so, or whatever the rules are for that.
I forgot those rules so you better ask around unless you already know
Double mats let's go 
cant wait to see how much skill books overclock gives next season when they buff it
10/10/10 moran nero team slowly becoming a realistic goal without sacrificing pve
It's not buffed yet? 
No need to save boxes, thats for people who loves to stress out thinking; im losing x amount of dust, battle data...
Thats not for me
still the old values this week


i mean does it matter, only 9 days left for this season 
:Doro walk:
I can do it too
scarlet liter trina xmaiden jackal
rumani centi cind rouge helmt
noah biscuit sbs rh drake
quantum on jackal and trina
vigor on rouge, biscuit
temperance on noah and rumani
any other nikke run highest lvl cube
(drake gonna need to be put in sychro, you could use her as CA unit or treasure her down the road)
I'm not getting Demeter title
since u're lv 400 why dont u go get the mighty demeter title before it goes away
i'm doing her treasure rn
pve content where laplaceT is actually good
ill check and try the switch
Afk a while
oh right in time then 
I have not
no laplace then u have to run maxwell, and shes not exactly good at sim room 

screen gets filled with enemies so quickly
Now that champion arena has completed, how do people feel about how the final matchup went? would copying the champions team comp be a good idea or nah?
not a good idea because some of those teams require massive investment on pvp only units
that u probably wont have
most normal people won't have 10/10/10 sr15 moran 
Most 
Surprisingly Siren comp have chance to win 2/3 
if anything, these archetype seemed to do well
2RL noah
2RL scarlet
2.5RL SG + rosanna
2.5RL-3RL indom
3RL without indom, 3RL cindy, 3RL noah all fell with lower win ratios
4RL and cp pads being the weakest you can go for
People are siring all over it and I don't have her 
4RL with Siren is peak
4RL stall is just a wall
4RL with siren is RNG
4RL stall is very expensive
I'd do it 
when you look at bastial teams tho they do seem rewarding once built
@tropic summityuri god take the wheel my purpose is done
i'm gonna go play a good game now (yakuza)
eh let's see if he bites 
I hope Im fighting my own teams that would be epic 
have fun, great series, i still need to play the 5th entry
likely, but let's see
that one is really long i'm ngl, now i just finish up the stuffs i haven't finished and mostly beating up amon
@coarse lake which group 
hmm hard counter on second one, ballsy of you to run unprotected blanc tho
I'm throwing this CA. Not checking the bracket.
I figured since my BSoda P1 survived 3RL, Blanc should be
In this exact case, no, but could matter in other setups. Just pointing out the timing of the stun relative to burst actions
Do you thing you can get to CA or need to wait?
Betting all on you fr
I'm just worried that the cs on my noah isn't enough
cs needed for taunt prio is different in champ vs rookie and sp, need more of a cs gap to steal taunt 
hoping adding adj is enough
You are not alone
Really hope the gacha get my Emi team win at least once.
Anyone waiting for your turn to hit in Union raid?

Im not normal
spreadsheet gaming?

aint nobody got time for spreadsheet gaming 
If I open everything (except for BD conversion ) I get 421
So I'm behind 20 levels
Nah, spreadsheet for hitting is too much. Just one person can only hit each boss once.
Go 421 then

defense is useless u know that
And my Rosy not built
No good lines
It's not 


You don't need good line on Rossana to build her. Just 71010 like me and you good.
My Moron is also 7710 now btw.

Rrally blood?
Just like that you gonna kill anything
honto?
I use Rossana is SPA as well, I'm not rerolling my high tier lines for more ATK. 
3 line ele 1 line ATK is enough

Saccc
To kill emis?
Alright, good luck!

I can't sacc on def
and helm

You can
I'm no longer special 
Mast?
I though your were in higher synch. 
now I can surpass ET synch
Maybe he bricked a little too or more younger account then I thought.
we have way too many defender 
2B Cindy for B3 DPS....
Makima, Noah, Noel, Bay for B2 defender....
Rumani, Moran for B1 defender.....
dun request more 
I've defeated ET 
U better go grind hard campaign again right after hitting 421, esp now with the MG fps option u have no more excuse
unless that setting melts ur phone
haven't tested it

Well, Idk maybe you will regret it later
No
I started pvp in May last year
I’m a late bloomer and pretty behind
Really didn't mean that.
Who cares if I won 
@swift mango
but your synch level = campaign, not arena
Yeah, doing both the fps and performance modes overheat my phone and drain the batter fast

Go on... Suffer against Bay then
This ain't much though.
i'm legitimately afraid that playing nikke on my phone with that setting for too long will melt something inside my phone
probably could keep for union raid or sth
She was 4/10/10
Oh yeah
Campaign I’m behind as well
Still on 24 hard
I hate malding

and all i did was shooting range then kraken
41010? 
Rapipi went to an eternal cave
Yes
Remember i was resetting rapipi
lv 421 should be on chapter 30-31 if u are a hard malder 
Possibly
Prolly need to buy a proper laptop or pc
like a real life whel


24 ain't that bad 
Imagine
Just skip the hell stage
go for 101010 Little Mermaid. 
I will be in 21 til 421
People said I should be on hard 32 by now
my job requires a good laptop so im fine
Tried 120 pulls and 0 pilgrims, will wait last day to tix her
Yes
me too
But do not jope max skill on her yet
the really insane malders get to ch 32 boss at 430-441 range then get stuck on MC for 40-60 levels
I used the books in different units
I will buy a new laptop
Because my old one cannot update to Windows 11

Till 501 to beat MC

481 with very strong electric dps invested, 501-521 for normal people ig
w11 is sucks tho
And MC ask for a very well EIN
My little mermaid is 10108 now, I was contemplating to reset DKW but still hesitate because more cp....
So I will need to get new laptop
Before it explodes
||like AA Pillar||
I'm going 421 ET 
Oh, just go for it
MC hard requires strong ein, strong cindy and psosibly strong xmaiden/sanis too
Im on my way to max skill noah
Do iiiiiiiiit
Overtake me
It is your destiny
I’m only 416
im an ein glazer and i dont believe she alone can carry 32-33
tomorrow cuz I have no time
My ein and Cindy are well in ele, x maiden not really but still enoug time for that
She can, trust your Ein
Thats why they released her for MC in SR
Ping me when you do it
I want to witness this grand event
the noise comp did not work lol
Or helm
Helm wants ele, not attack
Charge Speed we refering
why not both

Risky for our jackal links
Thanks for before, can you help me again? Am I able to improve upon these teams with a Trina or Rosanna? My Rosanna is now currently 7/10/7 64% Ele, 37% Atk Sr5.
So invested 

319 slacking 
Why neither Snow White/Rapunzel alts have limit breaks

I still log in daily but dont push campaign as much as before. Also i dont really need snow white/rap alts so i just keep the selection box
That tier 14CS is hard to get your hand on...
HelmT also want ATK to one shot

What beats this team. Need help
siren
ok
Buffless Scarlet 
at most its 2.5RL....just bust it out with 2RL Scarlet...why so hard 
No Cindy? 
Noah+Biscuit+Emi+RH+Rapu
It may reach 2rl against 2rl scarlet with enough counter from both side.
hmm trina would be a direct upgrade instead of xanne, guess you could run:
scarlet trina centi ros jackal (trades speed for attacker pressure)
or
scarlet pepper trina centi jackal (natural 2RL)
i'd say try both and see which fares better against ur opponent

I’m sorry but ros meaning?
87.7 RL to 100 RL just from Scarlet counter is....kinda imposible from 2RL speed i think
rosanna
jackal feed
I rarely think of beating 2.5 and 3RL with proper counter....all i did is simply put 2RL and job is done
....as long as not 2RL SG
Emi?
Emilia
40 bullet aka 40 counter shot....i doubt it will be dat much before reaching 2RL 
Emiless bracket is a good sign
my past Rookie also using dat form....then the trend switchd to 2RL Scarlet
And Trina+Scar team already feed 30 bullet. You counter could also trigger counter.... get better at math man...
oh i think we talk bout diff comps 
do not think many people have those cs
my suggestion was to kick dis comp with just 2RL Scar....shud be work.....and urs is using ur comps....
30 feed at least here. If you bursted with Blanc, 50.
i doubt he cant....he is fighting lvl.449 guy 
not a big deal unless cp is really high
tho i understand many ppl dont have dat CS...but for a guy who fight lvl.449 i doubt he dont have many nikkek 
remember, for all that cs must be a pvp focused boi which i doubt
Another option is to
Noah+biscuit+HelmT+RH+LapT
quantum on Noah and LapT
or jackal if you don't want lapt or quantum
show the cp of this team
855912
no bad
Why you reset redpi
My same set up is 794129
because i need all resources for pvp units
as long as the 2RL doesnt feed Scarlet counter i think it works....like this old team
iirc....dat old team beat the past meta i had with his problem
then my rookie trend switched to pure 2RL 
Cool thanks, I'll try both and see what works. Same Quantum Cube from xanne to Trina? Also what cube for Rosanna?
rosanna can be bastion/resil
trina can be vigor/temperance if used in p2, else can be quantum/adjutant (if hits 17%CS)
it's 30 at least and could still reach 40 feed just like trina team
Trina sitting at 16.74% CS from overload alone, so that helps. Thank you! ❤️
oh wow that's pretty damn good, then ye adjutant works perfectly there
dw scarlet vs scarlet....the 2RL will still win tho....counter vs counter
....cant be +40 counter feed just for the opponent under 2RL right? i mean....the chance is very very very very veryyy small 
30 feeds already 11.2% with Jacak equipped quantum.
add 5-7 counter from scar and 100%
I did this
Not my best dish I have to admit
tbh i never count counter burst gen.....its just from past experience dat my rookie has similar comps and switched to 2RL beatin dat exact comp 
so all i can recomend was to use Scar 2RL to beat it....cuz it worked for me 
it's rng and they could not have everyone with lv7 quantum
no clue if it still have possibility to lose now
Thanks 
in my rookie....i would 4 quantum tho
....altho it will be just another waiting game for the rest of em realized how to counter it
I will try this team
I have all these units built
RIP 
What happened? Too slow RL? Or Siren still stunned Noah?
Or moving Noah broke the comp?
@keen vapor 
just like @keen vapor current rank in arena 
Siren still stunned Noah
Looks copied from Yenah...
Is this 3RL?
you can find out yourself by using this
Thank you for this
no problemo 
How to use Little Mermaid in arena, what is her team?
How at level 289? lol
And thats missing 2 levels for 361 boost
Need to get lucky with lines or dupes to get close to 2m at 361
challenger 1
That is insane! My strongest team isn’t even that and I’m level 452 lol
I’ve been playing this wrong…😭😭😭
Well, it's easy to achieve challenger 1 if you register a new account, lol
The last time my arena defense failed was 104 days ago
Glad you are not in my group but I do have an leviathan in there
Im going to cry myself to sleep tonight…😭😭😭
First time I know this is a thing.... Clear last chapter Hard mode = clear 10 chapters.

So gem claim before last chapter hard always losing out.
A ton
yenyen has similar team too?????
i thought i was the 1st 
i mean....if not reached the exact same stat it wont reaach 2RL
what does the numbers mean?
I’m 452 and just hit level 30 hard
What do you mean?
I think he just wants attention
Can't believe someone using Stall comp in this bracket 
P1 should win if Rosa 1 shot Rouge
P2 wth
P3 win
Though P2 has chance coz their comp is low invest
Stall Cindy is weird lmao
Also 4RL with helmT is wild
They're just random bs
Oh fellow product 23 player, was he around here before? 
Do still need 2 sacc to burst at 2-2.5 RL though
I just tried her this CA, Neon P5 should be targeted by SR but idk if she'll die fast
Their Moran Nero Quiry only has 65K cp tho
You jumped 10 core dust per hour just by clearing the lastest chapter. That's equivalent to clearing 10 chapter.
This probably always happened whenever a new chapter is released. 
O wow crazy
So they get an advance on the core dust
When Trina was just released actually. Yenah used 5 quantum because LapT instead of a clip SG.
Probably one of the first or the first to put out Unlinked P1 Rapu before it became a trend now.
It's around the time delusion post about his Soda tech lol.
i just know this today tho lol
i didnt know Soda can stun....look very viable now 
its just...how much RL sapport one is willing to sacrifice 
i was using Emilia...but turns out its exactly 5 buffs.....so im using Noir for dat 10% buffs.....so it will become 6....means im free of Robanana debuff 
altho im not sure how the debuff works...
idk it is by chance dat 1/6 buffs dat i have is the jackal link or it has the chance to be debuffed too
who is winning at P1 and P5
I'm top. P5 noah biscuit wins I think? idk who is winning indom battle, or just 50/50?
CA, no idea who is attacking 
counter can outdamage rocket splash
so if SBS dies to nuke Noir can't clean up
if defending then maybe you win, your bullet feed is higher
so they Blanc slightly earlier
Indom fight, Scarlet win if she deal enough dmg to kill Biscuit with her slash and not reload before Blanc end. Maybe you will Indom Noir instead and just lose.
P5... Both has a chance to win. Whether your Noah died first or his Noah die first.
cuz Jackal + Scar
guess I have to pray 
Noir is eating counter regardless of shooting p1 or p5 so mostly comes down to if indom lands on her or not 
actually maybe even worse if you're defending because Alice also shooting p5, so maybe Rumani can eat indom too
It all depends on how hard the splash is
sometimes my SAnis die to splash at P2
3rl
well iron RL is more common than fire RL
it's only Rumani that's fire
Jackal, Anis, Centi, LapT all iron
I guess Bay fire too
It works by targeting 5 random buffs per unit and removing them.
So, there's no freedom from Rosanna dispel... if you meant that. Just now there's RNG
At about the 1.5-2.0 seconds mark of combat (basically just before Trina's 2s invincibility buff on Scarlet from battle start expires).
5 is also for a high S1 Rosanna. Lower dispels fewer buffs.
- 1/x/x dispels 1 buff
- 4/x/x dispels 3 buffs
- 7/x/x dispels 5 buffs
Dispel is to 2 enemy units with highest final ATK.
Is there a guide somewhere on how to defeat certain teams?
The second pin
Even if Scarlet indom ended like 2-3 frame faster, SBS could still lose. Scarlet need to be weak enough to not able to wipe the rest of the SBS team so it wouldn't come down to 1vs1 at the end for SBS to be certain win.
Could someone please tell me how to deal with Soda's stun? She stun Noah and Noise so my team full wipe by Scarlet sweep 
Her dispel kicks in around 1.5-2 seconds?
Is that how long it takes for her to get 10 shots off?
I try another one, 2RL to one shot Scarlet with HelmT and win, but its a lucky win
HelmT oneshot Scar, but Scar can sweep before that
luckily, HelmT and RH still alive
Noah and Noise got stun
another team is Noah-Noise-Biscuit-HelmT-XMaiden, 2RL 
sauce: https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/
in short, the lower the number the faster the team is to burst
2RL is faster than 3RL
3RL is slower than 2RL but faster than 4RL... and so on

how did you guess 
Happened with me a lot
nah nothing new 
yet 
i'm random silver
hi random silver 

thank you sir 
just give them advise or recommendation else no need to talk more
That how i did

Damn this one is classic
So how it ended?

just tell them they're the best and give them a lot of pats, so their ego is satisfied

Better yeet them next time Rail-chan
i was hoping there was a wild chance the dude was legit just curious and asking for reference... 
think the lad was just too young
you've a ton of ego at that age
Dw fam just hold ur beast mode like mine


@tropic summit xd
top64 
probably knows what they doin' 
to force their hand you'd need to invest perhaps in rosanna and soda
but i don't think it's worth it, SParena defenses have become mostly useless
(if opponent knows what they doing)
well if you're lucky they may still get decently far
they've a few weaknesses but not bad
eh he just switched teams and camp 24/7 nothing special
It's because a MG has initially slow windup phase to heat up before it achieves maximum RoF and accuracy.
Otherwise, it's 60 shots in 1 second unless there's some locked rof in pvp - could be, I'm still kinda inexperienced with Nikke pvp.
I based my estimate on the fact that Trina makes Scarlet invincible for 2 seconds at battle start if conditions are met.
In a replay recording I briefly analyzed in previous CA season, this Scarlet had the invincibility dispelled by Rosanna.. just as the invincibility was about to expire anyway. It felt like 0.2s-0.4s before it should expire.
There's probably a little extra time past firing the 10th bullet for impact and effect. Unless MGs are just that slow at the start 
Hello, I need another defense team recommendation. 
Both variation of these have been cracked (by a different player)
I switched to this comp, and it still lost, but strange enough, they failed twice when they tried again. Possible coinflip match-up on one of the team?
why does your name look familiar
Me? 
ah yeah the RH hitting cover funzies
we've had a few players showing that 3RL actually becomes 2RL if RH hits cover
so ye there's a RNG factor in it they're probably dealing with
either that or they messed up their own CS% somehow
Oh, when do the fights occur?
the rule in this case is: don't change what works, let them crack it again 
I'm not ingame and I forgot the CA fight schedule
Especially when if they think that their comp is a failure when it's really a pure fluke.
Although, it's a win if they keep trying to win against the fluke and it has a fairly good chance of happening.
Because they will fail to take back the rank enough times for you to hold onto it with advantage
Alright, got it. I'll keep it as it is now that I know they're dealing wihlth rng. Thanks for the input once again.
Hopefully both. 
My bracket just became abit more sweaty. 5th player trying to break into top4 
Briefly imagined that perhaps there's a player that changed Commander name to RankFourMine.
Then spammed gems at your SPA 

Which one is better positioning for defending?
Rookie? rarely we use biscuit and jackal tgt
SPA
hmm in that team you'd get jackal indommed, that's fine if opponent is running single target hitters... but if it's AoE 
should probably aim for a 2RL team with a better B3
I think 2nd one is better
If the choice is only between 1st and 2nd screenshots
I'm assuming that in this comp there's no point to soaking damage with Jackal link and no Scarlet, or is that wrong?
could post your box and see what you could run as 3 teams overall
Since your Biscuit would save Blanc anyway
I was standing on 6th spot without any risk for weeks with this comp, but now someone beat me and I want to make my defence a bit better to be relax again
So I tried this, looks better to me?
oof 4RL
you want 3RL in SParena at the minimun
reiT and cindy team logic would be fine but they're too slow
post your box and let's see what can be rearrenged 
ReiT team doesn't have enough CP anyway
Give me a sec 
Thats what I did so far, both teams I posted above takes all the CP I have. Only Crown is invested from 3rd team (and Rouge but I tried to include her on second version)
I guess you can generate more burst but its is pretty far so... idk
First 4 nikkes have most investment, then somewhat decent until Naga, others are meh at best
hmm let's see 
well these are those you wanna work with
can probably make 2 proper teams and 1 cp pad out of these
it's a good thing you got helm treasured
CP of teams to give better image
S1 10 as well, and Quantum is lvl4
looks like you could actually run 3 proper teams afterall
naga centi cind bsoda pepper
quency alice blanc noir jackal
crown rouge pmaid biscuit helmt
arrange them and post them so we doublecheck CP, if it's not tanking CP too much you could roll with these
else we gonna merge them and run 1 cp pad
I don't think this will work tbh. CP hit is pretty big
And also I should've mention it but Jackal-Blanc has a small issue of giving indom to Jackal
Need to invest on her a bit but don't have enough mats
I think its best to focus on 2 teams overall, I simply don't have enough invested to create 3 teams
For example this team was working nice so far, idk which team lose tho
I wish we could see previous matches
Or team of the ppl that defeat us. He is below me now so I can't see..
ye those look fine, similar idea
you want biscuit in your CP pad to give them a little edge
as it will delay crown's death and might get you in time for 5RL
realistically, opponent here will aim for T1 and T2, as T3 is the one offering bigger threat they'll want to skip it
quency nuke on single buff is mid tier, non lethal, so opponent can tank it even without noah
your defense is as good as your 2 worse teams, keep that in mind 
Thats why I am trying to make 2 unbeatable strong teams and totally gifting 3rd one, at least that was my idea.
Both my teams so far easily counterable via Noah but luckily by bracket doesn't have her 
Including me 
yeah noah makes most teams dumb don't worry 
Cp pad team with the lowest CP 
First team giving Jackal link to Rouge 
I know its not easy to create a team with just looking at image tho
not going for link on cindy team just speed gain
CP wise they look pretty good
Btw just curious, Jackal's link can change mid-game? Cindy will have higher final attack with bursts
nope it's set at start based on the 2 highest atk% nikke
(OL included)
in that team would make sense for either your naga or rouge to be linked, as anis is SR unit and jackal and cindy are defenders
defenders generally have lower atk% stat than supporters and attackers
Yeah its Rouge and Cindy
Won't lie, I don't think it become better overall tho
I think 4RL quency team with biscuit-jackal is better than 3rl one with risk of quency dying prematurely?
the point of that team is to burst first, either via quency or helm
bursting with quency on 4RL is meaningless, as you're already dead
the added perk of that team is that either quency or helm will also get indommed
unlike your current jackal team where jackal gets indommed
it's good to mess with things on your own tho, keep testing out
If Quency takes the indom good, but I don't think it would help if Helm gets it. Idk maybe I am underestimating helm but I don't see her killing enemies after her burst with her current investment
Yeah I will see how things go, whether they can beat me again or not etc
you're able to choose a team that either dies pre burst or a team that has a chance to burst and trade with indom that lasts 10s
i think i'd pick the latter, but do what you do 
Fair, but actually thats why I asked that first question.
Wouldn't making blanc p1 guarantee their survival even with 4RL?
you're already dead on 4RL
in fact that team has a good amount of feed so it's a free feast for scarlet aswell
even without scarlet, running jackal there will give opponent faster burst
you do not want 4RL teams or slower in general in sparena unless you've some stalling in it
(like the 5RL crown + biscuit)
i'll be honest with you, quency as a B3 choice sucks balls there 
reiT would offer a better choice, as on 1/1/7 with single buff may be lethal already
but you gotta focus pve first anyway at that synchro
finish kraken team, campaign team then you can bother sparing resources for your pvp core units, dolls and OL for the most part
It would be if there wouldn't be 40k cp difference 
As you can see I can't prioritize PVP right now, I will get/invest on Siren, maybe Mihara and I think I will get Ein as well and invest on her for MC.
Then Asuka duo for Kraken or SBS if I get a lucky drop I guess
Otherwise I could just invest here a bit to keep this team.
Invest on Jackal to give indom to QeQ
And then invest a bit on Centi-Biscuit to make last team 2RL and a bit better overall
yeah CP is your main issue, but it's fine you can catch up once you're done with pve, ppl investing in pvp at your synchro probably bricked themselves, unless whaling
ye siren will help for kraken, finding SBS would be very good
ein would be good for both pve and pvp actually 
your order of things seem on point 
First 3 whaling, +20 sync difference at least
4th team has godlike pvp drops like Noah, Rapunzel etc everything. Otherwise same place as me in campaign
Then me 
As long as I can keep my 6th spot I am good tbh, just want my gems
wow that's unlucky 4 whels already 
sounds good, go with that 👍
2.7k gems is pretty neat
assuming you get top4-6 the whole year, you only missing out on 7.2k gems
that's around 24 rolls (in 1 year)
4th person, these teams are literally CA teams from what I can see.
3rd doesn't have such teams but he just brute forces with CP 
haha wow, indom SBS, siren 2RL scarlet with trina, stall team with noah and moran with helmt sustain... 
ye this lad knows what they doing
I can live with that I guess. Its not like its possible for me to go above 4th spot.
Yeah, I just saw it and said duck it lol
I can't beat this
looks like a smurf account or at least someone who's getting good advise
honestly leaning on the first 
Yeah I agree
synchro 236 with THOSE teams is something else 
Yeah looks like RNG helped as well
I simply have 4 pilgrim so far with 2 of them Harran and Doro 
oof
but don't worry, those cases are fairly extreme
it's like that dude won lottery 
Yeah exactly
Anyway thanks for the suggestions again, lets see how this go for now 
yep no problemo, happy hunting
This might be better? First team from you and second I cooked by giving up 3rd one again.
The issue I am afraid is first one might lose to enemies highest CP whether its 3RL or not
Seems slow
Both 3RL
Nah, without feeds as well.
And yeah, I already add some to WL
will this guy ever leave this current SPA? like when reshuffling just look at his units (its early account btw)

huh, a free win
Actually.. how I couldn't think just replacing HelmT with Alice...
Now both teams are 3RL with Jackal team is close to 2RL with feed, and their CP is still high enough as well
Or wait... maybe I should use Noise instead of Jackal? Its still 3RL and I can't use link effectively anyway.
Jackal team has 2 or 2.5 RL chance with feed and has 6k cp advantage
Noise has Taunt and her skill advantages.
Which one do you think is better? If indom would work I would go with Jackal for sure but it doesn't :/
Probably never
I'm stuck with my 2 Chinese since the beginning early bracket, other players come and go but early bracket peeps stay together most the time to the end.
im surrounded with lots of helmT and whales since 2.5anniv arrive 
Can anyone recommend my teams?
Scarlet hit ASS
Cindy hit Scarlet
Eeep
Anyone remember to arrest the tie breaker problem in CA in the last survey?. I forgot about it....
Cindy against scar team
Normal scarlet
Scar jackal can easily best that sbs team
Jackal no linked 
idk if they fixed it
We’ll see this CA in a few hours
@fiery parcel switch out laplace for any other battery
Your Scarlet wasn't strong enough to cleave ASS, feel badman....
they didn't reply further to my tie-breaker ticket yet
sure but they could say it's fixed 😄
or not haha
Are your RH and Scarlet and Trina properly invested? It's like the first time I see the wipe fail.... Could go with this order but replace Siren into RH slot... Then you could hit either ASS or Scar+Trina with Scarlet team.... Provided your Siren CP is high enough...
can't push hard more right now about 2-3 hours away from 281, but don't think it will be enough on it's own
2-3 hours away from 281
😛
check out how close the top of the SPA is though, my bracket CP is really tight
guy in 2nd is +12 or so levels on me
guy in 4th has been rocketing up levels lately and is almost catching me up
guy in 6th never leaves it, just defends it
@umbral belfry huh i thought you said he's in your bracket
yeah I feel like they been whaling some due to their dupes
they have stuff at core max, my highest is alice core 3
well we'll see. I'll fight for top spot if needed but not going to gem for it
Shouldve still indommed smh
You could also replace Rumani with Siren and have Cindy hit ASS team while scarlet team hit SBS team instead.
I didn't incorporate siren into my teams this time but maybe I will have to for next CA
not expecting to win anyway, nice to leave the initial mini league though and into top 64
Let’s see how many peeps used siren this time round
Probably could still use this same team line up but Cindy hit Scar+Trina and scar+Trina hit SBS.
Not yet. Scar is full OL, with 10/7/7, but trina is t9m with 4/5/7
Im out of tries for today unless use gems
it's interesting to see what works/doesn't work and adapt for next time
my siren is a bit improved on initial anyway, but she ate so many rocks for nothing
CA teams are pretty standard now tbh, a lil boring
Trina wants her skill 2 max. While Scar want her skill 3 max. But I guess hitting ASS would be no go for now since it failed deal enough to kill her for some reason. Just wipe SBS team with Scar+Trina. and 2rl Cindy to wipe their Scar+Trina.... You could ofc use Siren to stun Noah and have Cindy wipe ASS team but you need to edit your teams for that like I mentioned before.

I think you can make some fun teams, I really wanted to add a soda into the mix
but I still don't have one
I can't do last burst skill for Helm as I lack the 3rd burst manuals... 
You won, so why the long face?

You're gonna have to explain whats a long face 
Should have asked for team advise earlier 👀
Dissatisfied face.
(this
)
Predictions is easier than cooking
I dont think top8 teams will have any drastic changes
Champion surely 
I'll get those 100% prediction frame surely
From KosMiu's burst gen calculator excel, trying to understand what's the feed chart 1 target and 2 target in relation to the burst gen sheet?
Essentially it is telling u the values of Single or double feed
Since jackal is linked to 2 others units u can do:
LinkUnit1 LinkedUnit2 x x Jackal
or
LinkUni1 x LinkedUnit2 x x Jackal
If P1 and P2 are both linked, it means its feed 2 (as there are two targets being hit)
iirc, it tells u how many pellets/bulley/projectiles u are feeding the opponent
so those sheets are for units that share damage taken? jackal, bay etc? and those values are added into their burst gen? cuz it confused me when seeing drake's values of 40+ in the feed sheets but 18 in the burst gen sheet
I lied.
Just for jackal.
So those values there are the number of pellets/bullets
You have 17% chance to get to top 4.
So to calc the gen provided by jackal, u take sum of pellets/feed divide by 10 multiply by 3.55, then add to ur burst gen

thanks for the clarification!
3.55 cause thats jackal base burt gen, which procs every 10 pellets received
So if u really wanna math the feed, u take ur opponent teams, add all the feed value then convert to jackal burst gen
then add to ur team’s burst value
a good heuristic is, AR shoots 20 bullets at 2RL
SH shoots 40 pellets at 2RL regardless of single or doublefeed
these are the only weapon types that matter tbh
MG/SMG is just dead to jackal
huh wat happened
so jackal is best paired with AR and SG, is 3.55 her true base and 28.4 is something like a general average value after all the maths
can u show me a msg link pls
Jackal best paired with Scar. Avoid SG in SPA if possible
thanks and ps for trouble
Jackal is a good counter if the opponent is running SG/Ar/mg/smg
cause these feeds alot
If your team feeds lots, just add Siren so Scarlet p1 being useless. 
more bullets per second in enemy team means faster burst my team, gotcha
yes exactly
Hey you are c1, better than rail. 
Can someone help me build a pvp team?
Sync Noise Rumani Centi Blanc Emilia and give them 4x OL when u can
Treasure Helm ASAP
Wishlist Trina Jackal Biscuit
U're gravely missing a lot of pvp units. Dont expect to defend well
Crown Naga SBS Liter Noir
Moran Noah Alice Sugar Rapun
Auto
Thanks 🤯
SpA players with lots of pride don't come here to ask for cooks to be honest. Even if they are bad or uninvested. 
It is how it should be unless they wanted to make trouble or joke around. 
Can someone make me 3 good teams please? I’m only missing these chars.
No treasure on helm, Miranda, diesel, exia, and frima yet, others have it, besides viper who’s missing the last upgrade
@tropic summit
Cook me 5 team pls, I have almost all Arena essential units including EMILIA but no Makima, Rapu or xAnne.. 
should I post all my units rather than what I’m missing
yes all units sorted by cp
Kk
You are so not brick brother. Would you be cool and come to my newbie SEA CA bracket full of Emi?
My bracket is full of Emi
But your bracket isn't new. It's oldest.
With Hobo in it.
I have Emi but it imagine more than half of the bracket don't have a chance to get her but still has to fight anyway. 
Because your server has enough people. 
what new teams can I use in SPA defense to throw someone off?
assume I got everyone except built moran/soda/bay
4 max
Top8 without Emi 
champion without Emi

CA qualify result in few minutes?
Wth is that BS 
Situationally useful
It's so over for me.
ye they "fixed" cindy burst so you can partially block it 
Yeah
Common No biscuit lost. 
I want to know if my Sacc works
Cindy was the bug all along. 

Everyone go in with low CP teams now huh. 
I'm the Lowest 
SBS Blanc RH Emilia Jackal
Noah Centi Biscuit Cindy Liter
Noise Siren Alice laplace Rapun
Wishlist Scar, Trina, Rumani
And treasure helm ASAP
I should lower my CP under 300000 to check if i go in another bracket lol
Maybe you could luck out into better grouping but CA bracket would stay the same 64 group until reshuffle at least. 
I wonder if SP position make any diff for CA bracket
No ideas
fr
CA "qualifier-group" bracket maybe. I think it's based on your total CP though. The big 64 SpA bracket won't change.
1st CA I was 1st, I got early bracket, 15. this one Im 3rd, I got 39 or something
but ye the 64 league doesnt change
or based on your sync
theres 1 with lv 800 in my bracket so prolly not? 
Only one lv800?
I only remember 1 cus he fought me, idk the rest 
Last CA I finished 3, got group 9. This CA I finished 1, got group 16
SEA is that dead I guess. Or there are more. There should be more but probably not all in first month players brackets. Or you won't even get to top 4 in SpA. 
actually late group
yea I made my acc like 5 hours before 2nd day daily reset. I wont get top 4 on my hard bracket tho if I get that on upcoming shuffle 
But you are only 6 synch lower in your hard bracket.
they gem, thats why 
Practically no synch lower.
I never gem back, the only time I gem for spa was the first time the released spa. I gem to climb. Im so dumb 

Demn...well at least I saw 3 pepegas including me in my bracket
Not sure where other pepegas went 
good ol days 
Be like Orderlia guys and get all to spot group bully anyone you could hit. 
:icant:
Oh I forgot wrong server kek
Do you think Rosa gonna Nuke HelmT and Rapun or outdmg their heal?
:kekboom:
I got 3000 and used them all to reroll dispatch + gem claim. 
so reech 
No more hard mode for this account for the next 4 months 
Go eep.

Rare Harran simp
Do you know they fixed Harran's skill desc?
They might release pseudo-treasure for her soon 
She deserves it 
I could even spend time to do campaign right now... after they fixed phone disadvantage to boot. 
Max core 12 black lines?
SR15 ofc?
I wanna see you in the top of the leaderboards 
she's core 1
You won't 
Fake fan. 
gift me more cores
Sleep for another 4 months. 
Treasure but like Milk. 
Can't believe we've reached DoT meta b4 True Dmg meta
Guys??? Siren stun will trigger on 50 bullets....which mean what RL it will trigger?? 2RL?
Daheck...how come different value???
Well....not that I care about rookie...nor SPA since it is 3RL...but if it is 2RL on CA....then I'm fked 
She'll break PvP if 2RL CA
maybe for 1 team
How do I know if my Rosanna and Scarlets linked to jackal, is it based off the attack stats before battle or after all buffs during battle?
Can check in the buff status...check it on shootin range
Ahh I see tysm I always wondered how do I check that. Was trying fit my helm and assumed she had too much attack
Or u can check the stats in ur screen among members in ur team...the stats there already include ur OL gear buffs
But to ensure 100%..checkin shootin range is advised
Cuz....u know....the stats are hell small to read 
Can missread 1 and 7...or at least it did happened to me 
Daaaamn my helms attacks is too high

She took my Scar Jack buff instead of my Rosanna
Hi guys I wanted to ask if someone could help me build a decent PVP Team so I can get good Dimand rewards from PVP. This is my box ->
Y u wanna have Rosanna linked to Jackal?? U wanna make sure enemy scarlet counter attack didn't kill ur Rosanna?
I mean....if ur inserting Helm.....most likely helm will be linked since her treasure gives ton of stat boost 
I’m using Prydwen and it gave this info
Seems like a newer segment they’re adding to show the teams tab
letsss go

lmao
i somehow counter the guy all matchup lmao
@gritty mantle max 4 pic per message
two of u in the same roaster?
nah we were just talking about teams, I am global

i got ninja pinged
k Siren stuns after 2RL in CA, just checked

I’m not in game
so no Siren abuse
bullets not fast enough
no i will check later, sorry drunk in shibuya atm
I got 1 W 
Can anyone make me a pvp team?
Does winning this first part for CA gets us a cool frame?
pretty much every frame below top 16 is kinda ugly
how did you guys do in CA?
3-0 but 2 of them were bots so not impressive 
How you know what they are?
How would you know they're bots?
they have Korean name followed by number
Can anyone make me a pvp team?
@tropic summit There won't be a finals mirror, my twin lost. 👀👀👀
keripo won his 3 matches 
and 1.6m CP always
I’m trying too see that I don’t see it
@umbral belfry I dropped a match to p1 Cindy....
Peak Sacc
bro little mermaid stunned my noah and won the match for it
pretty sure bot's are the lvl1 accounts.
Those bottom 2 with 1.6m CP are bots that they fill when there’s not enough real players
btw guys wanna ask
Ohh I see that’s really insightful
what's the interval between emilia shooting out her burst attack after noah invulnerability ended?
21% CS emilia
uh just the same as your charge time I think? Because the -300% should be flat
so it always adds +3 sec to your charge time
I've brought dishonor to my family
let's see
so if you have 38% with max skill 1, it should be 3+.62s total charge time
What’s the results confirmation timer for when we see it already?
or w/e Emi's max charge speed is
kinda funny thats only team i win against him
you take too long to shoot?
after invulnerability ended, sbs was able to nuke out noah and emilia before she shoot
just unlucky I guess
Noah invin maybe ended in the middle of SBS charge
so snuck in extra hit
and probably unlucky timing with strongest 2 proc landing as well
so 3RL Siren CA
Does promotion tournament start after the timer?
welp
ngl the unlucky frame is pretty sick
Man that's some good luck with the dmg... Ein only like 1% left before death too.
cause you're either trying to vote for the losing team every time, or you fail every time while trying to vote for the winnning team
both possibilities are the same lmao
I’m gonna look at who has the worse teams and vote them
not good enough, its 1-4
You know what's funny, this comp win 2/3, and lose the last match b4 even burst
Almost time 
SEA last bracket is a joke, this guy in a group with 3 bots he basically got a free pass
One guy in my union got the losing frame... He maxed bet on them for fun too...
wow so free
THREE BOTS
Where do you go again to see the losing frame reward I forgot where
missions > challenges
moran...
God dammit
I'm the defending team
Scarlet did not get stunned because she covered apparently
The only way this happens is if she has zero ammo OL
Can anyone tell me why SAnis and Biscuit die there? I'm pretty sure Cindy's ult already done
How am I supposed to predict a zero ammo OL scarlet
wth is this
3 ppl with same score
Hi guys I wanted to ask if someone could help me build a decent PVP Team so I can get good Dimond rewards from PVP. This is my box ->
your vid broken
duh, check your vid
is it?
Experience from previous battles
the strongest helm
from top to bottom's previous rank
4
8
32
advance
I re-encode it to x265 to reduce size, prob thats why
you WHAT
not broken
sorry i meant group(like top 64 after). I was busy at work when I typed that (assuming he won)
now try it on pc
we gotta send you to the dog house for tbis one
at least sbs got indom
Yeah I know I lost I'm cutting my wrist rn
no LOL
Oh its different message
Biscuit put me in the dog house 🐕🏡
The Cindy made my indom start to early
4-1, 5-0, 4-1
this is karma for memeing p1 cindy
I know, and I won't change
LETS GOOOOOOOOOO EON IS FINALLY QUALIFYING
TIME TO BET ALL ON YOU
🤝
its cindy burst kill her
Eventhough the animation is done?
I was under the impression that a 3 RL noah couldn't catch a 2 RL cindy but I was wrong 
or maybe they had CS rolls
it's not done tho.
Yes I'll cook
have to win my bread
lock in echo
it not done yet, game just change pov when you die...
yeah the camera has slo mo for no reason
I will also get Mermaid if she is relevant to pvp
I just saw this sorry, just woke up
Thx for helps!
For some reason they tried making camera works KEKW
You should get her regardless 
But indeed she has more PVP usage than Mihara
funny how the winner is the only one that didn't buy helm's gacha costume
but ye Moran not enough to tank Liter + Cindy
i made it to top 64
Lmao i didnt even make it out of groups this time, my matchups were horrid
tbh it's unlucky that you stunned Jackal, otherwise maybe you live 
here is an example, cindy burst need ~3s to shoot before it end. your sanis and biscuit die ~1s after his cindy burst.
I mean it's still gonna be Blanc buffed Cindy either way but Liter on top is unlucky
It's 2 years development efforts 
avoid noise, better being fed to 2RL than running 3RL with vulnerable p1, jackal doubles down as resistant p1 so
ye but this CA is already ongoing 
Then the camera sucks in CA, thx for this!
Cook me 50 teams for next CA. 
ok what happened here 
Oh no
there's no Noah and it's on Emilia bracket
🎉 congrat
What is stall 
looks like everyone got in this time
@quick lake damn this went better than expectations by far 
Double stun proc ❤️
Maybe not me
Wait, why your red hoods and Cinderellas are so underpowered
you play one day per week or something? 
Good thing I put that Neon on P5
Not me 
sacrifice is needed 

I can't cook on these conditions of non-invested Red Hood/Cinderella and noahless 
Dont worry I have the mats I can 0 to 100 them
if you keep getting defender side that team might have really high win rate 
I have just been ideling login in and doing dailys every day

@keen vapor I want to lock in push content and get good pvp rewards
What about overloads
you can't get good overload lines that easily
That unprotected Blanc really dies 0.01 sec b4 B2 cast 
@quick lake you were on point 
wait let me login again
chefs dessert 🙂
You can only aim to get decent rewards with a level diff of 100 
my rosanna gonna ruin jackal-less scarlets win ratio 
(Decent: 900 gems)
I went 4-1, 3-2, 4-1
I have not doen much in terms of cores or the dolls I have the characters now I just need to invest in them
Levels matter 
@keen vapor If you tell me the characters I should be prioritizing for PVP I can Upgrade them and fully invest in them
Synchro lvl?
Yes 
Which lvl should I push?
i lost wdym 
@quick lake tell him
levels matter
Oh, my condolences 
nani?
I can use this to boost lvl
How can a lvl 267 win first place Champion Arena if you check all that won 1st place last time.
I do understand that it is possible depending on units, placement of teams and opponent team luck.
BUT how can a lvl267 reach top 4 in Special Arena when it mostly depends on the top 4 having high CP more or less
If you have less than 10k core dust cases it won't be enough
? wdym?
Another lose from Blanc solo
30 Purple and 10 Legendary boxes as well
That's not much 
I'm a hoarder myself
SP-arena is based on the players that started roughly the same time as you, and CA wise all units are automatically push to lvl 400
I could've won 3-0 if not for Blanc
your group is based on account creation date so everyone in that group is the same power
what happened?
how can i lost with 2rl? how strong is mana?
I am not playing that long maybe when SBS Banner was there
@quick lake curious reviving timing from rapunzel here, got trina ressed instead of scarlet due to lappy splash 
you were right on this one too
That was 1 year and 3 months ago
should have 100 more levels (although you seem to get 40, but 60 level diff already bad enough)
oh no, not again that crap 
well shit I just want to pusch story now and have a decent PVP Team so I get more Dimond rewards
@quick lake did you have more win total than the other on same won rounds?
you lost cus the enemy cindy got better buff, which is crown buff
Oh so you guys are saying that lvl 267 URAWHAT ended up in Special arena with other lvl players as that account seems pretty new with ID starting with 05xxxxxxx
grandma won! 😄
yes, it's new player bracket
@coarse solstice








