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also quick question bout kraken , is it normal that he can oneshot cinderella 💀 when he reaches stage 4?
depends on your synch level 
im lvl 285 rn
that's your answer 
rn what im doing is i have skill 1/2 materials going for asuka , since shes 10 9 7 rn i think , my skill 3 going for helm , bc shes 10 10 9 , probably in 4 days ill be able to get her doll to stage 3 and her burst max , and gear resources going for mualani, and doll resources going for jackal and skinwalker woman
after im done with helm and asuka ill start working on sbs skills , and the gear will go to rapunzel next
do what you will, besides helm, asuka should be less priority than SBS 
which does bring the question on what special item do i work for next , which i did see some ppl say drake
laplace for pvp
drake for pve
or save for future treasure units 
helm is bc i use her in campaign 💀 im powering through campaign with like 25% deflict or smthn
good, keep maldin' 
should i build laplauce tho? i have summer anis and cinderella and scarlet etc , like is she better than them
@smoky snow you got demoted to challenger 3
appreciate it if you hit the guy demoted you so i can get back my position thx
actually, hold on
welp right
yall communicate with your companions in pvp?
companion?
hell no, i don't know anyone, they're in my pvp bracket and i told her we made a peace treaty to punish the sociopath that keeps stalking us everyday
at least u know ppl in ur bracket, my bracket has people that i cant even find on that server
Yes

@unique wagonwhat's your comment on my bracket
not anything serious just a comment
lemme finish this tower first
Cant even see ur bracket but mine is pretty cool
top 1 is a lost cause, top 2 is the usual suspect of spending billions and gain nothing but still doing it anyways, top 3/4 is in this server and i made treaty peace (honestly, podk is out of reach at this point) and top 5 is never attacking but he never loses either
i made the top 2 guy loses double the amount of what i lost in the previous CA qualifier
i tried but boi never answered my pins

interesting name 
discord or?
Peace treaty is useless
honestly if you hit me now i'll just be in a bad spot
since you're guaranteed top 2 anyways
a
just save it for when that guy attacks again
well i HAD to attack him because who knows when you're gonna go online, sorry
Nah it's okay
it's useful if you have three people (yourself included) in the bracket
Wdym
good for shutting down any attempt that wants to overtake their position, because you'll always be repelled right back to where you are
I always beat #1
I can stay at top3 but it's boring
MY TOP 1 IS DOUBLE THE COMBAT POWER OF ME AND KHIREN OVER HERE
YOU JUST HAVE A BETTER BRACKET BRO
You just need to invest in PvP Nikke
and clear all story to catch up with core dust output
Good line at sync 281 can reach 100K cp/Nikke
that makes it 100K * 15 = 1500K
whatever dude i'm just gonna go look for suisex arts
And that's enough to beat him

i cant even find them 💀
looks like you're avg bracket cp isn't too far off from mine
it looks like sodium chloride
uwu

even doing invest they not gonna gain 1m cp to beat their C1
theyhave to use wallet kun to be able to reach him
that's okay, just beat em in CA. can't cp gap there 
i'd rather spend my money on their costume

like me trying to beat my whale 450-500k cp more but also 78 levels over me
he's stupid so he loses right away in CA xdddd
His avg cp is 644K/team so it's possible with full OL ad good lines
unfortunate
you get that cp close to 381 sync if you invest well in pvp units
what ar you talkin about, even in my bracket sync 241 has cp of 450K in their team
im 357 and i need 361 boost to be 1.9m and thats with all investment on pvp units
first you need to ask them their sync levels

ogey
then give me RH
He needs to catch up campaign wise and open core boxes

nah you have skill issue L bozo
rosy, i have a confession to make
RH came home, twice.
u can have my dupe
she'll come home trust

the good spook for rolling for siren/mihara 
i will trust

Idk if I should ticket Siren and roll Mihara or the other way around
40 pulls in each banner , luck should be in my side for the first time
I'm gonna golden tix mihara personally
i wil just pull for the chance to get RH or if siren will be good pvp unit B1
i have enough to mlb one of them, but who is the question 
Siren is MG tho

forgive me
bready profile
sold

I will pull out the wallet for Alice costume

but noise
i've been waiting for this day for all my life 
imagine how hawt she will look in pvp
getting alice, noise, liter, siren, mihara 
oh the pain of being a new player and missing out on costumes
have to get all at once

Me too
Ever since I started playing in August 2023
I was burdened with the sad reality that I wasn’t able to get the Alice costume

our time is now 
How expensive is her skin tho
20 dolla
average salary of a filipino child in the sweatshop in a week
so it's 20$
too expensive
yeah

If they make the skin cheapher, it'll reach broader customer
eventually gives more income
noise is good in pvp tho no?
if i remember she helps the team's survivability the more she get hit
So i beat them with your comp switch around but odd thing is it's beat them before with the same setup but couldn't the next time but there very well could've been something slightly changed on their end 
That week of work will be soooooo worth it
I don’t need food
ice soup for 2 weeks

i'd rather cut my stomach open, no thanks
pov : ur trying to look if any of the ppl in my pvp bracket
yeah
gonna send the banana up someone's butt
goodnight yall

hey friend , sorry for bothering you, but i have a sneaky suspecion that your butt is in dire need of a empathy banana right now
now say open up sesame
Generally its looking up two people in a position you're comfortable in
If either of them say no, your only option is to blackmail the
its not that i even want to talk to them about pvp 💀 i just barley have anyone to talk with about nikke
outside of some rice farmer in my dm 
eh its fine I dont have anyone to tlak ab nikke yuri either but you know I am good beign alone
wouldnt say no to yuri
anyways night
No I'm using it as a reference dumbo
The point is you have to accept the fact that there's only a select few people you'll be able to find that can talk with you
yo wanna switch my bracket decided to wake up and start pandemonium again after 2 years of peace
Lmao
watching c3-6 change daily
just those bois fighting for C4 for CA
isn't that different team to begin with?
cindy+emi and redhood+sbs
his redhood might be full of ED stat so your noise always died in p1
your cooks ready to win this time?


Huh, must've been a different time and I didn't screenshot it or something. well don't worry about it lol. Thank you for the advice 
@swift mango blood-kun need backup how to counter Noah Biscuit HelmT RH Jackal in Rookie?

Noah+Biscuit+ASS+HelmT+Jackal 

let rng decide
while my ein team does not face noah and scar bay we fine

How its gonna work actually 
Noah+Biscuit prevent lifesteal while ASS chipping them down.
try it and you will see


i still not use ein in pvp
my stat reroll is so bad that her atk only 5% after rerolling so much

but give her crit damage and she should e fine
The fact is the helm team is the team i used lol i just dont know how to counter it
remember she gets atk buff during burst

u mean crit rate?
can true dmg proc crit?
crit rate and critical damage, both stats works fine
i do not know much about true damage but those crit stats helps me a lot

Wait actually ure right
Invinc last for 3s

my ein have so many hitrate

cringe stat
hahha mine got a blue line recently, could not say no
but you need more crit
low ele tho
I just finished 16-28, can you tell me how to build teams for arena
? Thank you very much!
mine mostly has atk, ele, critical damage and critical rate, some ammo and defense i think
everyone has RH

hai, start reading the pins so you can have a general idea
basic things to consider in arena:
- burst dps
- burst gen
- protection (if needed)
how many atk and ed needed for a minimum?
Thank you! I will read it now
Yeah, I often lose because my burst is slower
for ele i would say over 60 and atk over 30 but getting those stats might take time
now im lacking some atk but my ele is kinda 80 or 90
super ein
critcal damage 40-45 i had more
and critical rate close to 20 i think
im just making sure my bois do not try to face tank my Ein 
wait, how can you can 4stat like that
all of them are black stat?
ED 80 above and crit rate close to 20 are usually need 4line for each stat
not really
she is
just need 2 buffers and speed to burst on time
Blanc anis sr ein rh maxwell?
after last change i did lose some ele but ele still close to 80 and crit rate like 10 . i checked now
something like Blanc/Ein/RH/X,Maiden/clip RL
she's one of the better b3
the best thing about her is: she can do burst dmg and follow up attack (continuous dmg)
Nice, I somehow made her doll to sr15
but the dmg of course, as compared to units that has purely burst dmg (scarlet, cinderella) or continuous attack (sanis, sbs), her dmg is lower at one specific role but the fact she has both also make her harder to be countered
man of culture
same here
ein is just stopped by noah and biscuit together, noah alone is not enough

i wish i had ein 
go wishlist her
i did 
mirror container will ask you for her later
it's okay i'll get to MC hard in 2027 
enough time to build her

501 synx and ez for you
Just c7 all ur units and u can do it well before 501 
waos
Just whale 
Im seriously considering full sending this sg team next CA, any thoughts?
Debating tdrake or bsoda in p1
Blanc go other team
Pretty sure p1 dies pretty quick
Better off giving blanc indom to ein/sanis/scar
A better b3 that can wipe the enemy team with 10 seconds
Nah all my other teams have a defense set
And blanc indom is sorta unreliable

At least here it doesnt matter so much who gets indom
I could also just do 5 sgs with naga instead of blanc
would it affect your 4 teams?
It would bump it to 2.5 rl
waos

2.5*
I mean sg team live or die by whether they get a matchup good for them or not, might as well do 5 sg and all-in

blanc would help against some comps though
And if 4 sgs dont do in p5/p1 dont think 5 would make the difference
Or maybe it would? Lmao
I think next ca is going to see a lot of counters to SG
I'm interested to see how mori and potential p5 placement works 
but i don't think she'll make it in time for CA/not enough testing by then
people will test during CA


she's not gonna taunt in time or taunt the relevant enemies to be worth bothering

I guess we’ll have time to incorporate the new units before CA starts if they can be used
given their weapon types, i don't have much hope 
if you really want a p5 sg blocker, unironically rei is prob usable
she's basically a cindy in bulk
budget makima
oh
2RL noah emilia, any chance that enemy noah could block aoe?
I didnt think this through
depends enemy
To be on the safe side i think ill just slow it down to 2.5RL

You don't have Anne so SG gonna be a tad weaker than it should be . 
Btw what skill rosanna need for pvp?
So expensive 
just a bit
Depending on your purpose, your team and your resource.
Unbuilt Rei be like: 
Man when they gonna rerun xanne -.-
next summer, trust
Lool
Normal rei / tentative?
Products 23 is doing very well for my purpose.
Just I wished my reiT was stronger. 
He mean this rei
🫵

Sad purple rei. No one cares about her. 
First time I have seen a nikke die and still have health lol
happens during blanc fights
A missed Blanc. 
I guess SBS should go P1 then
Using Rapu p1. 
Or Blanc P1


if you trust your sbs, go for it
Well if Alice goes then no SBS burst, if Naga goes P1 then no Blanc burst
So it's either blanc or SBS moved to P1
go sbs then
SBS+Alice+Blanc+Rumani+Naga
Hey o/
This the right place to ask for less-garbage comp suggestions? 
This account needs Biscuit 
Rumani+Biscuit+Naga+Makima+Cindy


need more burst gen 

The purpose is to tank everything that can't one shot Cindy. Need coure max Cindy, SR15 and lv15 Tempering. 
Naoh almost gets deleted everytime lamo, she needs a biscuit.
Q: Is the 2RL team's burst 3 faster than 2.5RL team's burst 2?
To be more specific, can Noah in a 2.5RL team block the scarlet's Nuke in a 2RL team?
Defending on how fast that 2.5rl team is.
Arland 2.5RL Helm top 1 CA in SEA certainly can.

It a bit risky tho if ur opponent has many CS on his batteries he might burst a few frames faster and kill u before noah activate
I wanna revive cindy with mana when getting wiped does her revive go by highest atk or leftmost that is killed first when all of them are dying from a single scar burst 
usually 2.5 team its B1 will burst first than enemy B3
Like this?
but for B2 in 2.5 team to burst first than enemy, needs some strong cs
Nope
emm, why? how to tell which 2.5RL can block?
Could be if Rumani and LapT both have 24% CS. 
is 24% the threshold?
Just 2 black and 2 blue line CS on each of them. Easy. 
for 2.5RL B2 to be before 2RL B3?
LapT and HelmT need least.
OK, I just use this team to attack a 2RL cindy team and it did block cindy's burst3...
Is cindy different than scalet?
Cindy 2rl Nuke could be blocked by 3rl Noah.

Does Tdrake brick ASS?
you mean both of them no bullet travel time so 24% can help in 2RL time speed?
What how
cindy burst is delayed, scar nuke is instant
Cindy is not that slow, you can block with 2.5RL Noah but not 3RL
3RL noah can partially block some hits though
why I feel sometime 2.5RL Noah team can block 2RL scarlet sometimes not?
I can't find the rule behind it..
cs
for example you have 30% cs emilia
your team might be like 2.3RL speed
for B2 to burst before their scar
It used to be like that until they nerfed her. 
Currently I have Cindy and SBS as the main dps on the PvE team.
I havent touched any upgrades in months so I got a huge stack of mats.
Is there any specific Nikke that I should prioritize that has better PvE/PvP viability than these 2?
Got a lot of new good ones since, like RH and Rapi RH. Only Pilgrims I dont have are Modernia, Noah and Scarlet.
maid anchor for the future hp padding meta
if you use her in raids
so a standard 2.5RL Noah cannot block 2RL scarlet at all?
you only get to use B1 then their scar B3
depends if your pve mostly mean 1 team for campaign or tower or including 3-5 teams for raids too
from gatrix sheets
I use mostly 1 team to push campaign.
Currently the team that is fully built and OL'd with decent lines is Liter/Crown/Cindy/SBS/Naga
build helmT she’s meta in both campaign and pvp
on no core boss helmT is better paired with crown than naga
she can fill burst gauge faster too if your team has bad gen
This is a great form. May I ask the source of it?
see pinned jump to burst gen calculator by gatrix
Helm T is the b2 Aquamarine?
helm with favorite item
Ahh
Alright, I'll see if I have enough to make her usable, thx
someone attacked me right at the moment i checking my pvp during lunch break
Within 10 second beat his ass back down
This is the current cope teams I got btw. Hard stuck D9 - D5 
I cooked a full maid CA team for maid enjoyer
imagine winning CA with this
cuz what’s the point of winning CA if you can’t use your all of your favorite maids 

@quick lake , do you have the win rate of SBS and ASS?
That 2rl Emi team is sus. Very sus.
SBS teams have a lot of variation and not really comparable imo
If you wanted to then Noah+ASS vs Noah+SBS. 
9 out of 32 ppl ran Noise/Moran + Biscuit + SAnis
Noise+Biscuit is bricking. 
It's miracle they get to top 8. 🧱
If u could compile ur bracket's top 8 with win/lose, it would be great
do we get skill resets in time before next CA starts? 
blanc sbs is the main sbs variant worth using in ca
also bc sbs happens to be one of the best blanc users anyway
one can only hope 
chat does cindy at p5 can tank shotgun dmg while attacking ?
or she will make them skip target
In the context of CA? Able to tank till 4RL then she dead
it is very ridiculous how correct ur statement is.....god i hate dat fact
been trying to make sure win using Rapunzel on P1 so he can trigger the stun....but the end result is so costy
now i feel like Cindy is becoming more n more useless in many PVP situation after CA
he lose shooting DPS when bursting agaisnt 10sec DPS burst like SBS, SAnis, RH, etc....
and her 2RL burst can be blockked by Noah despite 3RL.....
just use the 2rl crown comp so that each one of her hits is basically double dmg
then just rely on 1 tapping
or run a good enough stall
should win vs 3rl stall noah sanis that don't use biscuit
eh.....i just typed.....enikk app doesnt have CA table yet tho
i kinda need it to check the trend 😦
my team 4 and 5 need to be placed strategically in next CA 
That guarantee to lose to Noah/Moran+Biscuit

1/5 is a good gamba
I feel like we'll usually fight 2 2RL and at least 1 2.5RL comp in the 5 teams
or that's just me 
Good gamba but 1/5 every single time. 
I lost 1/5 like 3+ times last CA.
Yeah we do. Top8 usually have 17% occasionally as well
Higher bracket even has 20+% HelmT and 33%+ Emi. 
Yeah, I lost to my bracket’s winner with 25% helm. 
I wonder how many Product 23 you could find in next CA aside from me. 
@kind palm how your scar in soda comp can survive till burst
Link with Jackal. 
I got rosanna-ed
Not placing her in p1 can help?
scar?
Yes
No
just s2 rosanna to dead before burst timing
so another luck issue

Linked Rossana. 
sp?
then the team is good enough to lose to bait fast rosanna with jackal and other resource
for the other 2 teams to win
Why dont we link soda and place her p1
I have 1 sacc 2rl Rossana, will it work? 
cuz soda scar jackal link just use scar p1 in case they don't use rosanna
scar get trina invul first 2 sec
no point putting soda with no invul on p1
should work
scar soda is not that OP but beat enough teams
Well, so Scarlet won't be hit by Noah and lose 15% atK? 
soon scar won't kill if my opponent and me go sync 601+ I think
I think RH is more valid than Soda the more I think about it. 
yeah cuz soda feed jackal
need a bit more gen for more leeway on 3rd team
then soda is more valid if the other 2 team counter noah
Red hood help you kill noise buffed Cindy easily
Soda doesn't
I try swap around
latest successful def is with soda for scar team
my enemy have no trina and can only build 2 good atk team
they usually do noah biscuit and blanc
RH is just more dmg, in spa and rookie, they could just Noah/Blanc/bay the comp. 
And it ends
Synch lv too far behind. 
I'm glad I have 1 guy with Noah+biscuit+Noise+ASS+HelmT.
I'm hitting him 4/5 everyday to test comps. Thank him a ton. 
Anis Sparking Summer

It's hard to find decently built 2.5rl team in rookie.
Dude has sr15 ass and HelmT. He is good partner
Losing to him sometime when testing comp as well so he doesn't lose his rank.
It matter to testing build. 
My whale fight tooth and nail to keep my rank in rookie low.
I'm rank 30 now and he still find me to hit.

wth, that's actually sad
Well, only I am considered a threat for his c1.
I could drop him out of C1 in rookie from rank 30 with 5 days left so he scared
Basically no one hitting him or me in Rookie except ourselves.
Such an annoying bracket 
I mean it's a relaxed bracket. Since top 3 spa is no contested
that's nice then. Rookie doesnt matter either way
To think I will have to skill reset S Rossana who was my first SR5 doll. It's sad.
Really? 
Yeash, 
I mean S.Sakura...
I'll keep my 7/10/10 ssakura
already reset SW rem 2B novel who do I reset 
maybe I'll reset exiaT 
Doro too 
Resetting SW is bricked move
Unless they release Pilgrim that'll reduce 50% ammo, it's hard to use Doro
Doro wasnt even used that often in water-weak SR 
not bricking for me I never use SW team I built SG still get frame III from all solo raid in SEA so far
SW used to S9 AI
I’ll just worry about that if I ever not hit kraken 
I’m fine with my full auto s7 kraken team
🧱
I wonder how much damage siren would help for AI phase 9 teams 
I still never get phase 9 kraken cuz don't wanna reroll sbs anymore
I have to chose her or cinderella 
build wasuka for kraken
the only question is....how fast they will die.....imagine if fighting SG team as an attacker and ur P-23 is on P1....
P-23 in dat condition become 100% liability 
i hate the fact that we need to consider building as an attacker or defender in CA
and to cover both situation, its almost impossible for all 5 team
ive been thinkin....are we gonna be on the same bracket again on CA or not tho
.....i cant imagine if ill be on bracket 4, group 01 again
expect exact same ppl since SEA server is so dead
I was in the same league as you and some of my union members
see you if the rng decides to lol
I hope they shuffle CA leagues
remember to give feedback for CA whenever the survey is up
I think it will be up after this upcoming 2nd round of CA
i think it will
That's what we thought with SPA 

Giving synch 800 on a 400 bracket sure thing
make it top 8 so SEA can have 8 leagues instead of 4 lol
Curse of small SEA player base 
SEA so dead we have commander lv 500 ppl being matched with lv 300 ppl
Not fair at all
I think the lower sync league got people with no emilia vs people with emilia or even makima
that's real advantage
Yeah, lower sync might have been slightly easier. Top 8 ppl had units with <100k cp. 5x 3RL teams get you far enough
Not for long, getting drafted either 24th or 25th

its that, limited units + difference in skill books, rocks and fodder gear
And ppl playing longer naturally got more dupes
Need more your creative unique team anything neww?
maybe soda Trina scar to prevent Noah from nuke blocking

i would like to be paired with megumin
How the team
Scar soda trina clip rl jackal, scar soda linked
Soda gets taunted by noah, soda stuns her
doesn't block in time
gg ez
Just built out RH completely, and Rapi HR as well. I suppose I can just swap Alice with RH in the team?
Depends on nuking other members
Hoboman already win ca
let someone else win
yea thats why Im gonna use the same teams next CA 

Megumin is sub 422 bracket my dude. 
I don't think it's possible that there are anyone with Makima in my bracket. 
People without Emi though, tons.
Its work with 2RL noah
I probably won't
Betting everything on Blood-kun and Rex boy
I know you guys can make it

You might win it though, just focus on 3 teams and flex 2. Luck can carry you hard. 
I don't consider myself lucky either,
- crownless
- some whale on my SPA
- and my CA was BS
I mean mainly my luck with OL reroll.
my rolls are decent.
And match matching 
Well, it's sad when you don't have Emi and had to match with people who have.
right
You didn't even got a chance to get her
yea you can be raid focus and win CA as long as you get good match ups 
Joey is a leviathan from my main account bracket, thats is 2 years old, this alt account only 5 months old 
Basically the Megumin dude. 
Works only against same speed Noah, 1 rl slower and they quit stun faster they enter b2
I think there are lots of Joey in SEA... @mighty haven Whale is also Joey.


yeah he's in section, different joey
You need to make attack team yourself.
I think I'm bricking my Mana by upgrade her skill. She has too much ATK I can't use her with my Emi+Miranda team. 
Maybe my Emi is the one that bricked ..
How to unbrick her....

I should have focused on rolling ATK line before 3 lines everyone. 
Anyway, good luck in your next CA. Maybe you get to win it next time. 
That means I lose though, oh well.
I need to build a stall team or a team around BSoda if I want to make the 3rd team
I cant compete with Emilia havers

BSoda's wipe is very weak, dont be deceived by Valco SG team.... Even in his team you could see his BSoda can't even do 1/3 HP bar with her Ulti. 
i'm in 284
not far
How are you 284? 
284 is also sub 421 in SEA
Btw
how about Moran Trina?

No Scarlet?
yes....
Just use Trina as burst gen then...

Trina can help Moran tank a bit more
can you give the example?
it's this right?
You are so in Arland's Bracket 
The highest level one.

I remember you are synch 501+
Moran Trina Drake Noir Centi?
543
You don't have Bay, Noah, Blanc?
Op
See
Bay, I have
noah used on cindy's team
Blanc used in SBS team
Do you have S.Anis?
this acc is 5 months old, so no

Is there a resource with meta teams for specific nikkes?
Something simple like
"For RH - use x, x, x, x in this order. Replacements: y, y, y, y"
You have about no chance to win CA guess.
everyone are lv400 anyway, it won't hurt much even if i go to your CA bracket
if its my main account, I have a chance but sadly its bricked af
You have 2 years more skill book and rock than most guys in my bracket wtf do you mean nothing changed? And double the recycle room uprate? Tons of core units?

skillbook aside, most of my nikke OL stat are bricked so nothing changed
Do you have treasure HelmT and LapT?

Too many Joeys
You should have created your new account on Global. 
Maybe it's a sign to tell you to make a global account. They have sub 300 bracket.
Something like this?

Idk how people are going with Trina buffed Moran solo though.

So what about def
Can you recommend me some solid one?
U gotta cook and learn 
Can someone help me make my rookie and special arena teams please?
Last time I asked for help was over a year ago so I’ve gotten a lot more nikkes since
Scar Grave RH Drake Jackal
Noah Centi Cindy THelm Noise
Blanc SBS Biscuit Drake Rumani
Priority is to wishlist Trina, sync Rumani
Full OL Biscuit, xMaiden, Noah, Jackal as they're CP is really low
Optionally treasure laplace
Thank you so much
and hope u're not still leveling the syncs of the lower units 
Do you know if I equip a cube to the pvp slot does it only stay there and independent of the main slot, like if I’m at 8/8 for a cube and equip it on a pvp slot, does it unequip from a different nikkes pve slot?
nope. PvE and PvP cube slots are completely separate
They’re just at random levels so I can do the level up 1 NIKKE daily mission

Thank you
omg please dont do that 
Oh is that bad
Im pretty sure u can clear the dailies without that leveling
Oh ok, thank you
U slowly bleed resources
If u do ur dailies properly, u should be at 120-130 points a day without needing to level up
Out of the 3 teams which one is the strongest I could use for rookie?
Can run:
Scar Blanc RH THelm Jackal for rookie 
Thank you so much
2 RL scar Trina.
2 RL Noah+HelmT/Cindy
3 RL Blanc.
Very standard. 
Yeah, that's probably the go-to
Hard to say tbh
It puts blanc team in an awkward position because she can be easily killed by laplace and whatever
HelmT yes

She can't be killed at lower than 15% deficit but higher she needs Biscuit
You use her as buffer for Cindy here. That's it.
If I want SBS to vaporize their team with 25% deficit Biscuit into Blanc is a must
alright
blanc with tempering can survive in 2.5rl team

The word is probably "could" not can, but then again my tempering isn't well built so it might just be me
Can't survive against SG team, period

Tried in rookie....lacking dmg so much
yea....but when craftin CA, now i always consider how much dmg i can deal in rookie....if cant pass rookie into certain matchup...ill ditch it
Would the teams be The same for both attack and defense?
isn't sg go to p5
when defen.....goddamit....didnt we put it somewhere in pins regarding this????
You put drake twice here, who should I replace?
replace one of the drakes with Noir 
Thank you
Any team, to attack and defense?
oh are they talking about blanc for defense?
oh
Damn sr15 scarlet, what a rarity these days
i thought some1 didnt know the base mechanic 
2RL Helm should work
Are defense teams the exact same as attack teams?
if only i could get back in time and reduce my upgrades in Rapunzel....i might get away with 100% stun chance with this
Attack teams are usually tailored to ur opponent's team
Oh so for the list you gave me is that for defense?
Yep! For defence
Thank you
Thanks, but a defense team? that can avoid nuke
A defence team in general? or against that team?
Yep, defense in general
Can send ur full nikke box and can advise from there 
How do you know what to use against other people’s teams when attacking?
Nikke pvp is functionally a game of rock paper scissors. So u just need to use the right team against the opponent's team
Is there a list of what counters what somewhere?
Hmm not really
u can just ask in the chat
after awhile its a same few counters u'll rmb
Yes but discontinued 
Ok, thank you
U might wanna look into keripo excel sheet draft
He had all the old team draft winning percentage against many teams
But beware...its old team comps....newer team comps has way too many char to build ur comps
But it shud be a very good basic point in learning rock paper scissors in PvP 
Tho now it's more like rock paper scissors with added aliens n shet
Yes, here they are
No trina?
Nop :c
Scar Grave RH laplace Jackal (2RL)
Noah Centi Cindy Helm Noise (2RL)
Blanc SBS Biscuit Emilia Rumani (3RL)
Wishlist Trina
OL Rumani, invest more in Emilia, s1 maxed lvl and additionally 8% CS% from OLs
Invest in Cindy generally as well. (Will need her for MC/CC)
SAnis looks pretty low invest as well 
U've got all the treasured units too 
Thanks, I will try to improve Emilia and Cindy more
SAnis It is well inverted, but the substats of the OL does not have the best
Trina > Blanc > Noah > Trina > repeat etc
You have Blanc twice btw.
oops thanks!
In case anyone in my group wants to know some stats on our brackets most popular teams I took an average of the top 64. Included power gap because it was clear that those teams were built with that in mind before they knew it wasn't going to matter
You call my team copium nonsense leftovers?
Maybe? Lol It makes up less of an average then it looks. Some people 4/5 teams couldn't burst. I also kept tabs on P1 Cindy shame. Think there was 6 of them.
Very well could be a few good teams that ended up in there and I just didn't understand them
well it's by far the most underdeveloped bracket, everyone's too new to have Emi/SAnis and SGs are low prio when you're still pushing campaign
so all the teams are kinda slow overall, if you make a 2RL that's like a third of all your good chars on one team lol
For sure! I think a more important detail is where people like to place certain teams in their line up.
I figured a lot of people would ask for team comp here and team 5 was the most likely to be filler garbage so I put something there that wasn't super strong but could still clean up
2 different teams of bots made the top 64. There group was 4 bots. So at least they didn't beat a human
but it's probably going to be more guesswork this time
Yeah I think there will be a good portion of teams that are way better just because they aren't concerned with the deficit anymore. A lot less blow outs from bad teams that can't burst and more RNG based wins. People will also start seeing what meta develops. Until we see the meta develop your right it's a crap shoot.
DAWG LEAVE ME ALONEEE
arena reshuffle next month 

and i have the most cp 
no but really that sounds like a fun bracket
im so bored 
LMAOOO
did they really 😭
back into the kitchen

lucky 
lemme show mine, then gotta get ready for work

didn't take the bait

now it looks like I've been talking to a ghost 
There's a chance we end up in the same arena 👀👀👀

I'll take anything as long as I'm not in with the simp
you stealing all my doros 
Its part of the job

can anyone give advice on how to beat these teams? i can beat the 3rd one with trina scarlet but can't seem to beat the other two anymore after he got a CP upgrade
@coarse solstice wait we might not, our server ids are too far 
I think the farthewt back I've seen in my 2 brackets was I'm the 690s maybe?
whyd you start too early 
run these, doublecheck you're not over 18% deficit, both teams should handle a bit of penality
(your teams are on the left)
you can check your minimun required CP to avoid penalty by multiplying enemy CP for 0.846
Mine range from 668 to 678 :/
if u are that level 199 in top 10 champion arena dm me i lov you and want ask questions
if u are that level 199 in top 10 champion arena dm me i lov you and want ask questions
fellas , helm treasure hasnt been released yet
@tropic summit @umbral belfry
@tropic summit can u please helps me make pvp squads?
whats a strong rookie lineup I could run that doesnt involve rh or trina
nois,noah,edge scarlet/scarlet, rapunzel, centi (anything)
but u need speed charge rock
could i use thelm there for the burst gen
got thelm/jackal?
yes
got both
u can helm or jackal instead
noise noah DPS thelm jackal, 2RL by default
emilia 21% CS?
I question, how much SR generate burst compare to RL?
no
nekomata deleted themselves again?
then get her out of there, place thelm instead
how's your noise cp? compared to jackal/centi
would def add her there for healing/cindy buffing
jackal is really built
can do this then, dps being cindy
for pvp only units she is probably the most invested
Is the one that slower the one that prio aggro?
Beggar can't be chooser
sure post your box with nikke ordered by strength and we can take a look for what you can run 
yea
Hello again what comp do you suggest on 1 squad vs 1 squad ? With what i have
We gotta catch him in the act 
try these:
var1:
scarlet helmt blanc centi jackal
var2:
noah helmt rh biscuit centi
var3:
noah biscuit cind helmt rumani
they're all decent rookie teams
thx but who's rumani ? o_O
🥷
what can i use as my normal arena team? i don't burst that fast so even cp lower than mine sometimes win...
is the one that comes back even the same one we had before?
or is it a false nekomata?
there was a fake? 
Was he ever really here

was who ever really here?
Blanc SBS RH Biscuit XMaiden
Probably your best Rookie team.
even without Helm having the treasure?
oh my b, lmao. readjusted.
i still need 1 more dupe to start her treasure tho, but i lack the silver tickets
this doesn't have a B1, mate
it's probably a good idea you get familiar with burst gen and batteries
ok taking a look 
scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
naga centi cind drake noise
noah biscuit rapu sbs laplace
cubes
quantum on jackal
vigor on noise, biscuit, rapunzel, blanc
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube
notes:
-get helm treasured
-wishlist/build trina, rumani
-improve CP on those marked in SS
doesn't change anythig
emilia isnt that built, she is low cs
Still doesn't change much but CP.
Been so long since last time I had a sweep lol, good readjustment
I'm pretty sure 2nd will forever be mine in rookie once I break wall, they can't knock me out of 2nd with 60 sync levels above me right now.
rookie arena is just about timing. It literally doesn't matter how much CP the strongest player has on you.
CP? I am not into minor...
cat pictures are great
@smoky snow
yeah sorry about that, it's a bad abbreviation
it's combat power
oouuahh! I get it now
thank you for helps @tropic summit
and thanks you for what it means @atomic wolf
i not get it, what asian man has to it?
kurwa mac
just wanted to give a shout out thanks to the pvp amigos in here who helped me
if you got spare attempts left you could maybe push higher
nothing to lose if it fails
do it a bit before reset so you're sure you won't need your tries to take back your position first
this is basically the only guy who is left in my cp range
don't think I can win atm
oh damn if you took breaks it can brick your rank some
You are welcome altho Idk who you are. 
that's okay you didn't help me 
Progress 
what kind of horse shit team is this
OH THAT RUPERT GUY IS IN THE UNION I'M IN RIGHT NOW
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
dude is top 60 hilariously diabolical
Bro cooking
he's cooking pandemonium
The real question is why Grave and Cindy P2
Cindy in P2 is gonna give way too much free burst gen.
For the lore, man will sac strat for love
Hi @shell hazel not sure if you remember me, last month you helped redo all my PvP squads. They are working out great. However since then I got Helm's favourite item and maxed it out, and a few new units including Red Hood finally. Was wondering if you could take a quick look at the teams again, let me know if I should make any changes. I've attached the squads as a reminder, and all my units. Thanks!
Crown and Naga should be dropped fosho.
You have Scarlet, RH, BunnySoda, Xmaiden and Trina to name a few collecting dust.
worked great thanks!!!
You should invest to Scarlet (The Drunk)
and Trina
This will open 2RL Scarlet, 2RL Cindy, and 3RL SAnis
chat in this matchup how my scar comp can burst in 2rl, is this bug
in theory op team doesnt feed jackal enough
yours should be 3RL, but does anybody on your team have 17% charge speed to make it 2.5?
ive post the replay check it out
nobody have 17%cs
I do not have an answer then
now this is a myth
Granted somebody else might be able to tell whats going on but that is functioning like a 2RL
now i can save a clip rl for other team yeh
All I see is 40% bar everytime RL shoots
The rest 20% from Scarlet and Blanc atk
93% at 2RL, Scarlet Blanc made the gap, prolly some little feeds
93% on 2 RL just few lucky scar s2 and youre 2 RL 
8 hits from Noah 4 from biscuit 4 from helm 4 from jackal = 20 hits = 2 procs
3.55*quantum*2 > 7%
Excluding scarlet procs which also adds some
Blanc burst indom goes onto lowest percent health unit or lowest flat health?
flat
Do your Blanc linked or Trina?
should be trina 
prob scar proc diff then
3.71543+93.21364=96.92907
~7 scar procs to burst
prob -1 to 2 since ur scar is going to shoot immediately after 2rl snapshot
Probably. he could be lucky with scar proc and burst faster than expected, like how I got unlucky with my last CA scar proc and burst slower than expected. 
He wasn't exactly 2rl by the way bursting at 22th scarler bullet, not 21th
i mean its still 4 hits from noah 2 from biscuit 4 from helm 2 from jackal = 12?
we're expecting ~4 procs right at 30%
so not super unlikely to get 1-2 more
where is 2 from RH?
g9
I rechecked, he was bursting at 22/42 actually, so maybe even faster than 2rl... My bad.
does he have bastion on

There's no way anything makes up a full RL shot miss in that math
Okay, it was bastion 32 to 34., now the mystery is solved. His team was actually slower than 2rl bursting at 24 bullet in.


Do you guys think that people will copy the top 16 team positions in season 2 CA, or speculate proper team counters to each placement?
Idk, just putting you 2 strongest team above or next to each other isn't very safe. Personal experience here. 
Yeah ik. Putting all your eggs in one basket is a tempting move because it’s so simple
Do you know if Jackal skill 1 is affected by Quantum cube?
He got off like 6 counters in that video. So he doesn't really need the 0.16% from Quantum to proc his burst at 24 bullets. I'm still not sure to this day if quantum affect Jackal s1... no one telling me about it.
what 10 PvP chars are most important to maximize the CP? I want to start levelling gear to lv5 (after ol) and want to know who to target
Jackal, HelmT, Scarlet, Biscuit, Noah, Emi, Trina, Blanc, Red Hood, Cindy.
I'd argue Trina is more important than Centi or Rumani.
Yeah she is, I forgot about her
Trina's HP based buff is caster based.
So Scarlet can get lower % HP with an invested Trina
Okay fixed
Mostly just need an upgraded chest piece
hrm ok, I've been trying to get basically every PvP worthy char a full set of OL gear, but now with champ arena I'm realizing that isn't the best bet ;p
I mean good luck with that making any difference. 
so shall I just go down the list above getting them a full set of 4 lv 5 ol gear?
or do the chest piece on all of them and then the .... etc?
It kinda does though, especially people that invested into their Scarlet.
and is the same list true for dolls to max level and 4*?
Is treasure Diesel good in pvp? I mean huge hp buff
Just go with your cp need. DpS like Emi, RH, Cindy, Scarlet is still more important. Even SBS and S.Anis is more important to max if you used them.
Not outside CA.
In SP arena and Rookie, it is easily abused.
I have 2 all purpose teams that I move around to win most fights, and a 3rd team which is mostly just for cheese wins.
Not in CA either. 
Lessgo 
Abused as in gets slammed or slammes other player?
It's easily countered by AOE and it bullet feeds
MG's also don't contribute any burst gen really
But the taunt tho..👉🏼👈🏼
Diesel is just mid everywhere. In CA, she is basically discounted Makima but much more expensive.

Cinderella is the only one that sees use besides Rosanna. Rosanna can delink while Cinderella is being used to nuke people to orbit using 2 RL from other Nikke.
she's an option in Elysion tower besides Shelm and maids.
not affected
most skills aren't including Helm's burst gen one.

it should be affected
Most skills are if they cause a hit iirc helm/rosanna burst gen skill does not cause a hit they fill the bar
Helm S2 and gun were affected iirc
what
i rmb u saying it wasnt affected










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