pvp-arena

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/sora-cooking-food-wars-shokugeki-no-soma-fire-gif-17443420

[brazen ledge]

why sanis so much higher in your tier list than sbs if sbs does more dmg, hits more and can be played against scarjack ?
@spiral onyx

[lunar dirge]

I have this urge

In sp arena at least

[spiral onyx]

Thats part of what Im figuring out. Trina gives Scarlet a 2s immmunity, you dont even need Jackal in a 2RL setup

[spiral onyx]

Read the description

[lunar dirge]

She focuses main threats while she can be blocked by taunt defender+biscuit

[still storm]

well for clip rl you need to divide reload time by 3

[spiral onyx]

lvl 1 Sakura says hi and poops all over Scalter's face

[lunar dirge]

I said it to some ppl already

[still storm]

it's why Noir is so dumb, lowest reload time in the game

[eager mountain]

pretty much why rei2 isn’t defense viable like sbs

[lunar dirge]

Not really, none of clip rl but trina are dividable

[spiral onyx]

ReiA2 is the same problem. Wind = pooped all over by Sakura

[lunar dirge]

ok, make 2 rl sakura team

[spiral onyx]

Random maincorder: "but Keripo, no-one invests in Sakura, only the tryhards"

Keripo: "Do I look like a casual to you?"

[still storm]

do you think not having Emilia automatically cuts you out of champions arena (depending on the start date of your bracket)?

[spiral onyx]

if you cant afford to lvl 4 burst +5 T9 set your Sakura, you shouldn't even be thinking about PvP

[spiral onyx]

Not really, there's 5 teams, you can build 5 teams without Emilia.
That said, you likely are behind overall in investments since you'll be fighting against day 1 whales from other brackets, so

[still storm]

I'm week 1 and missing makima, probably already finished

[eager mountain]

oh well, since ppl don’t put sbs in defense now, I haven’t use her for years

[spiral onyx]

There is no such thing as "catching up" in Nikke, only "falling behind less". New players have zero chance of becoming competitive on a server-level and its just bad game design unfortunately

[still storm]

wait does anyone have the stats for placement of solo raid stage 7 clear?

[spiral onyx]

You may see it when people are forced to suddenly build 5 teams for CA and have no idea what other "good" units are out there other than the top meta handful. Thats a good reason why I continue testing "A tier" units and maintain my tier list

[still storm]

last I checked it was around 20% for global

[lunar dirge]

There are only 3 normal rl units with weird reload time:Laplace at 2,33s reload and Noah at 2,5s(dual wielding) and Rapunzel at 2,3s, but if those don't count since 2nd number after comma is still 0

[still storm]

and then Trina is like 2.52 seconds

[spiral onyx]

My current 5 planned CA teams for example use a mix of B and C tier units that almost no one has ever used in Rookie/SP Arena. Thats what happens when everyone just be like "oh, just use Noah and Jackal" or stuff like that. They forget you only have 1 Noah and 1 Jackal

[lunar dirge]

Not true:jackal at 2,03s, rumani at 1,82s, centi at 1,52s, anis at 2,03s

[spiral onyx]

anyway, back to work, I'll cook more later

Trina interests me, in more ways than just the obvious 2

[lunar dirge]

Cow and birch ways?

[still storm]

yeah so each segment of reload is total/3
so for centi it's 1.52/3 = .507s per reload segment

[lunar dirge]

Trina however is perfectly dividable

[eager mountain]

Being divisible or not doesn’t really matter.
The unit should be frame based not in 0.01n sec

In another word, how those reload time are rounded might imply how cs is rounded

Getting another piece of puzzle

[lunar dirge]

Trina gas almost the same reload time as noah

2,52 vs 2,5s

But Noah is dual wield

That's logical

[eager mountain]

Dont remember Noah having clip reload

[still storm]

no noah's normal

[lunar dirge]

Dual wield

But that's the point

Laplace has 2,33s but she's normal too

Maybe they're just baiting us

[eager mountain]

But those should be in 60 frames based on having 0.02 sec increment

[lunar dirge]

then clip rl and gg's

[keen vapor]

I see people going crazy

[lunar dirge]

no, get out

[eager mountain]

I mean animation tells everything, its clip reload, so clip rl, unless they somehow changing it

[tropic summit]

we've always been, especially @lunar dirge , i wonder if he even has slept finally and after 3 days

[eager mountain]

good old days where I can stay up a whole night and still have a functioning mind next day

[grave trail]

slowly building the blanc

[lunar dirge]

Yes

3 hour nap

[tropic summit]

dafuq why just 3 hours

get proper sleep already, the brain needs to rest

[lunar dirge]

Sanity is overrated

[tulip holly]

@tropic summit POGGIES

Funny that I was 6 cuz I spent a lot of time in at least 4 , oh well

Finished the season in 2 I yolo attacked the top 2 guy who has 1m more cp and won with a team swap kek

[quasi prism]

@terse abyss

Where'd you end up in this pvp arena

I didn't try much this season since I'm still working on stuff.

[terse abyss]

4, I was in Japan for a while so didn't try for a couple days

[quasi prism]

Oh that's sick, hope you had a good time!

[terse abyss]

Yea it was great 👍 definitely gonna go back there

[quasi prism]

I wanna go watch a basho in person one day.

[terse abyss]

Idk what that is 🧐

[rich quail]

Sumo tournament

[terse abyss]

But yeah I might just go lazy and not try for top 3, I can beat all of them but my defense team loses to them as well

Some guy had a 2RL team with Cinderella

I mean the solution is just to 2RL with Noah right

[bleak shale]

2rl emi also sounds pretty questionable

[terse abyss]

I just went to eat in like a different restaurant twice a day, Tokyo def the food capital of the worldo

[jagged sedge]

Made it!

[swift mango]

Another 12 rocks wasted for nothing. Maybe I should just give up on scarlet.

Still finally done with MW and move on with campaign

[junior briar]

time to do SR

Oops wrong chat

[swift mango]

Maybe I should quit game When I reach 200 rock on scarlet for nothing.

[junior briar]

My guy just straight up copy me

Anyways he got nuked by emilia

[lunar dirge]

I love clueless ppl

Always easy to farm points on defence points

[swift mango]

Problem with Emi in def is that it just doesnt work. Wasting battery for empty speed and enemies would just attack you with 1-2 RL slower Noah/Blanc anyway. Then they would have tons of batteries to hit your other teams.

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

you love me?

[lunar dirge]

Yes, unconditionally, wanna kiss?

[eager mountain]

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor

[valid fern]

Siren leak 😭

[eager mountain]

the game itself already leaked her anyways

[lunar dirge]

@keen vapor waiting you in dm's, bring baby oil with you

[tropic summit]

the new Diddy

[valid fern]

urge to C7 siren may overpower my financial sense.

[lunar dirge]

New munch*

[tropic summit]

considering the focus even in the mainstory, it's safe to say she's coming one way or another

just a matter of time... but anytime soon

[spiral onyx]

Yup, so she's better off used as a battery. So if you are limited to only 0-1 buffers in a 2RL comp, your options are Scarlet, Cinderella, and Rei1 (since Rei2 is Wind). And none of them have good burst gen so yeah, you're gonna be building some very weird and copium teams

Sometimes a stable 3RL team is better than a risky undependable 2RL team

[valid fern]

true but those ad leaks make it look like she is coming soon 😭

[spiral onyx]

3RL SAnis, for example, isn't fast and flashy and can be countered by Jackal Scarlet, but not much else and is overall very stable and strong against 95% of other team comps

[eager mountain]

always have a secondary b3 if using emi in defense just a way to trick people.
Wouldn’t be thinking using emi as b3 again in def but Cindy nerf made me trying her again

Might move Rosa to emi team just to inflict more uncertainty when Trina is out

[swift mango]

Well, in the current economy 3rl Noah+ASS and another unprotected team would just be falling frey to ScarJack and 2RL Noah. But no def work unless it's strange and opponent seeing it for the first time anyway. OR just CP gap

[valid fern]

Was it a Cindy nerf? Or was it Noah buff?

[eager mountain]

“Is emi gonna burst or another b3, is 30% crit Rosa gonna crit?” Not too tricky but if they are slight clueless it can work out

[lunar dirge]

nowadays PvP ppl have too many attack options

[eager mountain]

Too many chara only attack viable but not defense viable.
As if defense isn’t bad enough

[swift mango]

Yeah, but 2RL Noah and scarjack are just standard teams with minimal Arena investment.

[lunar dirge]

2rl trina scar team and put jackal into s.anis team, so this team could be either 2 or 3 rl depending on enemy

[eager mountain]

depends on Trina gen

[lunar dirge]

No point in jackal in scar team due to trina giving invul till 2rl mark

[eager mountain]

I suppose it’s slight lower then rumani

[lunar dirge]

Noah level? Good enough

[swift mango]

Or you could build 38% Emilia and 24% HelmT, 24% LapT so you have 3 team whose B2 could catch 2rl.

[lunar dirge]

Sounds like a big pile of fatherless behavior

[tropic summit]

*looks at my rock being eaten by shiet RNG, yeah not gonna happen *

centi and rumani on 17%, noise on 20% is all i could do so far

[swift mango]

I mean, I have wasted like 14 x 3 rock roll on Scarlet and not even getting a Charge DMG line...

This game is ridiculous sometime...

[lunar dirge]

Tch, pathetic, try rolling 33 times in a row for line 2

[pale knoll]

[lunar dirge]

That's how my rapi went

Screw her

My Asuka took 21 rocks and is better than her

Already

[tropic summit]

yeah my cindy rolling RNG is on a 28 wasted rocks, not sure if i'll ever touch that thing again, shiet is cursed

[swift mango]

You should have gotten some line, just you wanted one specific line.

[lunar dirge]

You know what was best I got till I got something I wanted?

Tier 14 hit rate

[swift mango]

Better than tier 1 ATK?

[eager mountain]

[swift mango]

[lunar dirge]

Worse, atk could be rerolled

[eager mountain]

p5 la still needs more cs then helm tho

[swift mango]

Well, I saw LaplaceT p2 catching 2rl scarlet. LapT and HelmT bullet speed look the same regardless of position.

[eager mountain]

[swift mango]

Better than tier 5 crit rate?

[lunar dirge]

Yes

[swift mango]

Crit rate increase dmg. Hit rate not. Unless you wanted CP pad for Campaign.

[lunar dirge]

Cp pad for pvp

Parry this

[swift mango]

Put up your Rapipi for PvP then, best luck to you.

[lunar dirge]

Indom rapipi time

[pale knoll]

[upper grove]

how high do you have blancs burst skilled, 7 for budget?

[lone sequoia]

@drifting schooner

[keen vapor]

I do

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

10 for pvp

[keen vapor]

What, she's in my top 12 of combat power :pepeh:

[lone sequoia]

10 for cp

you know...

lv11 for more cp

[coarse lake]

skills for cp is actually a bad idea, same for dolls

ol for cp is the best way, and most efficient

[lone sequoia]

yeah, for people who use their rocks

next month i will use mine

[keen vapor]

What? Same for dolls?

What have I done

[vapid lake]

yea the CP gain from dolls is actually a static number that doesn't really go up so it gets worse as ur sync lvl is higher

While its insane on a new account

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[rich quail]

But OL seems to give me only 300 cp when you go up a level in OL gear

Skills and OL lines give much more

[coarse lake]

it's the lines yes

[rich quail]

oh ok

[coarse lake]

other than that, don't min-max anything just for cp

not worth

[keen vapor]

[rich quail]

Echo

How many cd cases you got now?

[keen vapor]

Like 25lvls worth

[rich quail]

It’s been a while since I checked on u

wtffffffffff

@umbral crown

[umbral crown]

Imagine not having her in your top 10

[keen vapor]

She's not 12th

[umbral crown]

For nikke 2.5?

[umbral crown]

[drifting schooner]

whats up?

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

Who’s 12th?

ECHO WHO’S 12TH?

do we need another intervention, Echo?

[keen vapor]

Liter

[keen vapor]

Nvm, it was Noir

Blanc is actually the tenth

[eager mountain]

noir 12th

[keen vapor]

What

[eager mountain]

that was like more then a year ago for me

[umbral crown]

My noir at the brink of getting out ofnsync dev

[eager mountain]

well shes in tetra tower so

pvp only chara in 2nd row

[keen vapor]

Where Noir

[eager mountain]

25th

oh alice have cube off thats why shes not 1st

[keen vapor]

Happens

[keen vapor]

How dare you

[eager mountain]

she becomes 24th thats one whole row above when i give her resil

still too high

[keen vapor]

She's too cute

[eager mountain]

booba too big, thats a minus

[keen vapor]

HOW'S THAT A MINUS

IN WHAT WORLD

[eager mountain]

[rich quail]

My Noir is 27th

[keen vapor]

[rich quail]

[keen vapor]

EVERYONE IS SERIOUSLY WRONG WITH ITS INVESTMENT HERE

[eager mountain]

noir 3rd row at best for her current relevance
shes only that high cuz shes old and have dups

[rich quail]

My top 12

[keen vapor]

Skills how high they are

[rich quail]

Noir is 10/7/4

[keen vapor]

Higher than mine

[eager mountain]

10/7 ???

[rich quail]

Yes

[keen vapor]

I did 5/9/4

[eager mountain]

s2 needs 9 before s1 gets 10

[rich quail]

I did focus on Noir very early in my Nikke career

[keen vapor]

This was late

[rich quail]

Then I stopped after pvp

[umbral crown]

Time to reset her

[rich quail]

Noooo

I like Noir

[keen vapor]

So PVP

[eager mountain]

dont like her enough to be at least higher then mine

[rich quail]

but I have many other units to boost up

I will come back to Noir someday

[rich quail]

YUP
PVP OR NUFFIN

[umbral crown]

go reset crown

[rich quail]

I do realize that my sg game is severely lacking

All I have is S.Anis for high level SGing

[keen vapor]

Same

[rich quail]

NEVER

[umbral crown]

I would

[eager mountain]

well shes not even part of the sg team anyway lol speaking of sg

[rich quail]

Crown can be a good atk buff option even in pvp tho

[eager mountain]

just another offense niche

[rich quail]

Yeah I know

But I don’t pve at all

[eager mountain]

use her for the cp pad since she should be ur highest cp buffer by investment

pushing campaign is part of pvp

need the lv

[rich quail]

I will treasure Drake, tho

Need another 3 weeks or so

and my gears aren’t ol yet

[keen vapor]

Wait, what's your hard campaign progress

[rich quail]

I just beat 21 hard boss

stoopid mother whel

[keen vapor]

Ik

[rich quail]

So I need to mald again

[umbral crown]

Is it?

[keen vapor]

It won't be so bad, trust

I'm on ch25 after beating whale

[umbral crown]

Do you?

Why not 381?

[keen vapor]

Maybe

[rich quail]

Echo

What’s ur sync level?

[keen vapor]

Bc I can push

[keen vapor]

363

[umbral crown]

Does not matter

Imagine not being 381

The brick

[rich quail]

Echo I’m killing u now
I just got 392

[keen vapor]

See? You will blue CP the next 3 chapters

[crystal flicker]

I keep opening cd boxes to keep up with whale deficits

[rich quail]

Same

[keen vapor]

I can't keep up

[umbral crown]

Echo just enjoying the deficit bricking

[rich quail]

A lot of tryhards in my group that are 30 levels+ higher

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

-# Has been doing extra wipeout for extra core dust

[rich quail]

I’m still beating a lot of them

Because I am pvp boi

Is it a lot of cd to wipeout more than once a day?

[keen vapor]

No

Just wanted to find an use for extra gems from collab

Since I can't convert gems to rocks, at least wanted to convert it to core dust

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

what's wrong

[umbral crown]

Many things

[umbral crown]

Your playstyle...unique

[keen vapor]

My life revolves about patience

[rich quail]

Oh yeah Echo the event

I used all my remaining credits and got over 1000 cd

[keen vapor]

I claimed credits

2k x 999

I have tons of overloads to do thanks to Shift Up

[umbral crown]

Thas not how things works

[spiral onyx]

My life revolves around

[rich quail]

You’re not practicing patience with cd

You’re practicing inefficiency

practicing so much, it’s become malpractice

What’s the benefit of hoarding 25 sync levels of core dust for such a long period of time?

[keen vapor]

I'm pushing campaign c'mon

[rich quail]

Answer the question, Echo

[keen vapor]

REACHING YOUR SYNCH LEVEL

[rich quail]

When?

2035?

[keen vapor]

I'M SO CLOSE

[rich quail]

That’s right

Let your anger consume you

[pastel narwhal]

[quick lake]

If u really want pvp action

[iron hatch]

is noah's taunt supposed to also force target both of s.anis rockets?

[quick lake]

1 rocket taunted only

[iron hatch]

i feel like its supposed to only affect one yeah

had a weird interaction where noah was taking both rockets when there were 3 active attackers

skill even says its supposed to hit 2 different targets

[strong hull]

@quick lake rex boy you gonna get Trina?

[quick lake]

Definitely

if she’s cliprl, all the more must get

My bracket can be quite sweaty, so its an arms race here

Everyday. Sometimes multiple times a day. Top 6 all within cp range

Hopefully ca will spice things up

[wicked horizon]

Surely you've completed the normal campaign?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[wicked horizon]

Pushing campaign is like, half as efficient once you complete the normal campaign.

[junior briar]

Still worth doing

[spiral onyx]

Don't forget to submit your feedback survey

[fervent gorge]

Small indie company, plz undastan

[lunar dirge]

This+iron weak solo raid when

[whole pawn]

@tropic summit probably, I was at chal 10 , so maybe next season, I won't be able to get this again xd

[swift mango]

Where are you at rn?

[quick lake]

Quiet pvp day

[swift mango]

Almost done with ch23... Too lazy to mald more.

[swift mango]

It's 5-6 extra level a year. Worth it to keep up with the level.

[swift mango]

Ch24 also Elec weak and my Cindy + Scarlet only have 1-2 Ele lines....

[umbral crown]

And your ein?

[swift mango]

000

[umbral crown]

Real issues

[swift mango]

No point to build Ein she is 444 some solo raid before but that's it.

[umbral crown]

You could use her in pvp... but you are not ready for it

Also she is needed for 32 hard

[swift mango]

32 hard? Just near blue it like I did mother whale. Easy.

[covert lintel]

she is true dmg dealer why not invest

[umbral crown]

Go blue Mirror Container

[swift mango]

Gimme core 2 her or above instead of 0lb and I would build her.

[umbral crown]

Imagine waiting tonhave cores to build a unit

My cindy is lb0 and i built her

[pale knoll]

Just use rh alice fr 👀

[swift mango]

My Cindy+Scarlet have better CP than RH+Alice, I do use RH though. As needed.

[pale knoll]

Can do rh cindy then ig

[umbral crown]

Skill issues, he will be forced to build her wen time comes. Just wait

[pale knoll]

Can't go wrong with rh alice tbh, that's how i went through most electric weak chapters

[swift mango]

Alice only good when you play on PC and not lagging.

Otherwise she is only useful on fire weak.

[pale knoll]

I already showed you the other day a phone player using alice effectively, it's more of a skill issue

[covert lintel]

my ein now is core+2 but i did 101010 even when she still 0lb

[swift mango]

Try lagging on my phone instead of his 60fps phone.

And that's not you.

[umbral crown]

Thats the way, You know

[covert lintel]

right
he still don't know how great true dmg is

[umbral crown]

Someday he will... eventually

[eager mountain]

no real reason to ein against mc unless looking for low deficit slipper snipe, when theres cindy and other b3 elec buffer

[swift mango]

Well, I don't have any use for her rn, will build her when I have use for her.

[umbral crown]

MC was designed for her, but up to you

[pale knoll]

Except no device keeps 60 fps on mw due to the game bad optimisation

[lunar dirge]

you guys built her? I just got 80% ele in 14 rocks on her

[eager mountain]

same can be said for like ssakura vs kraken

[swift mango]

Except I ain't talking about mw.

[lunar dirge]

Except ssakura's damage is just ass cheeks while ein has multiple uses

[pale knoll]

But you are talking about lag, and you do experience lag in mw yet he was doing alice just fine, just looking for excuse lmao

[umbral crown]

People just forced SBS Alice there

But Ein damage is really great for both, pvp and pve

But if you do not have a built Ein you would not k ow unless yoy face one

[eager mountain]

at least ein is strong enough to be in elem neutral raid for once or twice... def better

[swift mango]

Alice is fine for boss stage on phone because they aren't moving much. For mobs stage she is even worse. And my Alice isn't built deck out like someone.

It's just doesn't work for me. End Convo.

[lunar dirge]

imagine having skill mats on ssakura in 2025,can't relate

[eager mountain]

waiting to reset her

never said shes any good

[lunar dirge]

Already did at the first given opportunity

[lunar dirge]

You're too slow

[eager mountain]

slow enough to use her for the second time this raid

[swift mango]

My SSakura is already 577 since last year. What are you talking about? Can't NOT have skill on her if I can't remove them.

[lunar dirge]

IIRC, first Eva collab did give skill resets

[covert lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-a-man-of-culture-i-see-you-are-a-man-of-culture-i-see-youre-a-man-of-culture-you-are-a-man-of-culture-a-man-of-culture-gif-19626078

[lunar dirge]

I just got this on Asuka in 21 rocks, can't relate

[swift mango]

I wasted it all on resetting someone else. Give me more skill reset and we talk.

[covert lintel]

when the last skill reset given out?

[lunar dirge]

Eva 1

[swift mango]

Almost half a year

[covert lintel]

6months ago

[swift mango]

They was so generous with 9 skill reset in least than 9 months just to baited me to waste on low level reset. Then went 6 months without anything.

[covert lintel]

well even if u didn't use it, it would be expired

iirc skill reset only last 3days

[swift mango]

They last forever, only the period you could use them limited to 7 days. I didn't know it until after my last skill reset was used...

[swift mango]

I wish I have your luck.

[umbral crown]

[lunar dirge]

66 rocks to get 1 line 2 on rapi

My luck goes both ways

Of extreme

[swift mango]

I'm at 42 rock without a single line 3 appeared... Guess I need to change my approach....

[real ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946719897390563328/1348628241484873749/OLDTALEssaSonline-video-cutter.com-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[raven plover]

[quick lake]

<@&946725432554836008>

[vapid lake]

pog $50

[quick lake]

Thank you

I will use $50 to buy skill mats for Trina

[crystal flicker]

will use $50 to buy Scarlet cosplay

[tropic summit]

and what are you going to do with that cosplayer

[tropic summit]

2.4k or 2k, get what you can

[strong hull]

CA tmr?

[whole pawn]

cap

[tropic summit]

obviously

what else could this be

[strong hull]

Im just spending 1500 gems today for rookies arena lol just to beat a china dude

Crazy work

[crystal flicker]

~~if you mean "costume", sure I'll save it for collection
If you mean "cosplayer", obviously ~~

[tropic summit]

[crystal flicker]

I'm pretty much like Scarlet tbh

[tropic summit]

do you also have a katana in your pants?

[crystal flicker]

by "also", do you mean she has a katana in her pants?

[tropic summit]

only one way to find out

[quick lake]

CAAA TMRRRR PLSSS

No more stinky spa

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Skin as CA rewards

[tropic summit]

A man can dream

[tropic summit]

a skin obtainable through means that are not involving money? heresy, that'd tank SU sales

[crystal flicker]

You see, Helm (brick) > get treasure > Helm+ (unbrick) > Helm skin

[crystal flicker]

We've got plenty of free skins tho

What IF
Scarlet (PvE brick) > get pseudo-treasure (Trina) > Scarlet+ (unbrick) > Scarlet Skin

[quick lake]

Yeah, maybe we get scarlet gacha skin

[tropic summit]

scarlet trynda s.anis xmaiden RRH? 🤔 (PVE)

[crystal flicker]

Cindy

Ein

[tropic summit]

she'd need to beat those indeed

[lunar dirge]

Scarlet is actually really strong with trina in pve

[tropic summit]

the scarlet comeback

[tulip quest]

LOL Okay we cope bois

might just be mini game of the new patch tho

[lunar dirge]

Low quality shitpost

[keen vapor]

25-12

[strong hull]

CA never

[lunar dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/dnd-spell-gif-26602472

[strong hull]

Trina out so are we gonna say bye bye with double nuke Scarlet + Mari?

My 4x atk c1 mari

[lunar dirge]

Maybe(I might do blanc rh ein and Mari REIT nuke but that's a secret)

[strong hull]

Give that to me

[graceful umbra]

Praying for a third collab just to get the reroll mari and old rei

[shell hazel]

I don't see it myself tbh

can't see 3rd eva re-run, and if they do it won't be for a while I'd say

[outer grail]

@shell hazel hey u there?

[shell hazel]

no I'm not here

[outer grail]

do you remember me hippokun

aw youre gone

[signal hull]

Please no more Eva's... Ever.

[quick lake]

No more pls

[outer grail]

5 rateup banner is cruel

[shell hazel]

I am here just working and stuff, post your question if you have one

[outer grail]

oh you are here hippokun

so we have a talk like 2days ago about defeating behemoth if you forget me

first Im here to congrat you on achieving 4b in solo raid and securing the tier 2 avatar frame Im quite jealous me only hit 2.8b so far

also wanted to brag about something I defeat behemoth b4 261 hehe now stuck at 36-36

[shell hazel]

oh nice one, I haven't tried yet but I suspect I'll get stuck at some point on the way to 36-36

what team did you run for behemoth?

I was trying to get more power for SBS but wasn't having much luck with the rock rolls

[outer grail]

on chapter 35 there are only 3volleyball rapture stages, 36-7 is the most cancerous stage in the game after that its an easy pass through 36-36

[shell hazel]

oh your CP beats mine I reckon - might be why 😄

[outer grail]

here I just change my strategy I go 2burst on phase1 before it changes from a moving truck to rhinocerus

[shell hazel]

cindy is my highest at 77K

by 261 I'd probably have similar cp probably why I am waiting

[outer grail]

me at 83k well hope you a goodluck on behemoth but I would be more happy getting a tier2 avatar frame than defeating behemoth because dev not gonna rerun this boss ever I think its one time boss

[shell hazel]

oh I thought the boss frame was the same whether like 5% or 10% or w/e?

it's 4.53% atm hopefully holds...

[outer grail]

I cant bring myself under 10% to secure the tier2 frame

[shell hazel]

yep that is a lot more than mine (348K roughly)

[outer grail]

I should have distribute my materials equaly to other nikkes for solo raid but I go out 10/10/10 and blus rocks 3 lines high tier for cp boost thats why

[shell hazel]

it does seem like you can beat behe you can get to the end of 36 OK

well my thinking was that I'm not far off the end of normal campaign now, and if I get stuck at 36 chapter boss for a bit it's fine as nothing after it yet

then it's just hard mode progress which will be a bit slow

I got treasure helm OK invested as well (for both pve and pvp) but need more OL on her

[outer grail]

yes only 2 coredust increase per hour not worth it I stuck on terra tower and my soloraid damage output for all five teams are overwhemling but you did a good decision than mine by investing to others meta nikke for other contents beside only campaign

[shell hazel]

I invest in the pvp a bit as well 🙂

but still grats it's good to progress the campaign!

I'm interested to see where the monogatari goes as well

[outer grail]

thats nice im building helm rn them alice and then sbs then ein I think I come to a conclusion that I agree with you last 2 days ago about mod topic so modernia is not worth investing than those above

[shell hazel]

she's good but kind of secondary behind others... I don't like playing Alice on manual much either so probably won't focus on mine too much

[outer grail]

Im going to bed, have a good day. congrats again on getting tier2 frame (Im jealouse )

[wise horizon]

This is my Alt account. Thought I had a chance earlier before reset but lost somehow. any fixes here? @tropic summit

[quick lake]

Swap T2 to T1
Swap T1 to T3
Swap T3 to T2, replace Anis with someone else such that u get 4RL

[shell hazel]

chapter 34 end on my side

how you deal with the volleyballs? SBS and RNG lol, some stages hurt and I just got lucky enough 😄

[keen vapor]

Scarlet Black Shadow

[oak gale]

quick question , why dont i see anis often in pvp despite the fact she has more burst charge faster than both jackal and centi (ik jackal gives benefit of shared hp and such but i mean about burst gague charge) , asking for a friend

[ornate zealot]

guys i need help, what group composition good to fight this -

[shell hazel]

you mean 263 right? thought we had similar progress

I had to stop and build SBS a bit for volleyball stages

ok so yeah I was right similar 😄

253 sync here

[covert lintel]

[shell hazel]

yeah build SBS for volleyball bits, and also Kraken etc (and even this wind weak raid she was good ofc)

I was running a silly team of Crown / Rapi / RH / SBS / Cindy for CP reasons, also you can RH B1 into other bursts for SBS or Cindy

[shell hazel]

my best dps is still Crown / Rapi / Cindy / RH / Helm

even for kraken... my SBS isn't well OL

[covert lintel]

u can do auto like this for kraken

my sbs still at lv8 burst so i'm stuck at stage 6

[shell hazel]

it wouldn't do enough for me, damage wise

I think what should work is Crown / Rapi / SBS / Asuka W / Helm but I need to OL Asuka W properly as well

[raven plover]

mainly CP issue
we have better options especially after helm treasure release

[oak gale]

[shell hazel]

my SBS still garbage rolls really, no ele and you want like 80% but it just hasn't been rolling

max ammo all the time which I don't really need much of

[sleek root]

🐳

[tropic summit]

indom less, biscuit less, unbuffed scarlet can be easily dealt with any 2RL noah + DPS B3, an example as video

you could also facetank it with a 3RL or 4RL cindy

safest is to just catch the nuke then outdps afterward

[ornate zealot]

does this require a proper ScaraBS

(?)

[tropic summit]

4/4/7 R15 or SR5 with 4OL should do

else just use your best DPS B3

you could even consider a feeding B3, as at worst you'll make them 2RL and you're already on 2RL

[ornate zealot]

btw im level 481 compared to them 513

how bad is the deficit

[tropic summit]

just need to avoid being 15,4% CP deficit

take your enemy total CP, multiply it by 0.846

that's the minimun CP you should be hitting to avoid penalty

[daring saffron]

do I replace Emilia with Rumani if Rumani is better geared?

[quick lake]

This is good, no need to replace

[daring saffron]

my emi kinda lackin though ngl

[pale knoll]

Emi's there for battery purpose mainly. Can also help a bit with off burst dmg

[tropic summit]

ensure scarlet is 2nd or 1st dmg dealer (in particular between scarlet rh and emi), else you risk breaking the link, the team on his own is ok

you can consider removing emi and getting a rumani or centi instead, to free her up for other teams if you need the B3, battery or splash off-burst

[daring saffron]

my current sp teams, any recommended changes?

oop w rong

ah h its locked till res et will post then xD

[robust blaze]

is there a new best general team comp for pvp with treasure helm released?

just need a team for rookie arena. rn im using noise, scarlet, noah, sanis, jackal

[umbral belfry]

We don't know if trina is a clip RL yet right? i remember seeing a few yes/no

[swift mango]

I'm getting there. Autoing map 24 rn.

Push more for more distance.

[keen vapor]

You won't auto that stage from 24

[swift mango]

Well, maybe not but I would still get there. I'm only 669k power at 361, can't ask for much.

[keen vapor]

You what

What team

[swift mango]

DKW+Cindy+RH+Crown+HelmT ... Reduced by few thousands, around 5k, if I used Scarlet instead of Cindy, DKW or RH ..

[keen vapor]

Your DWIFE IS MORE INVESTED THAN RAPI?!

[swift mango]

My 3rd highest CP ofc.

It's being before Rapi released.

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

I don't get it

[swift mango]

Low stars and low OL roll. My Crown is pretty low CP too.... Less CP than my Centi despite 12 lines 101010 sr15....
Just because low OL lines...

[umbral belfry]

<@&946725432554836008>

[keen vapor]

YOU HAVE HIGH STARS?!

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/946720097031045161/1297132224541364246/kisama.mp4?ex=675763c5&is=67561245&hm=75448ce1e766fdbdf153671138ba7ff0ba79d5642bbf4f34dd6c067de52a2a93&

[swift mango]

All my "campaign units" except crown MLB or core +1.

If I had spare rock for 10k more cp on crown I could be 680k....

Rather than wasting 40+ rock on Scarlet for absolutely nothing.

And 20+ rock on Jackal for absolutely nothing as well..

My crown is so weak...

Now that I look at it... My sr15 Alice lower CP than my SR5 Emi....

And my DKW got dethroned to 4th higher CP...

[zinc lion]

Thank you Sir

[eager mountain]

investing less and less on raid and only 8b thx to meh invested wind dps

[forest solstice]

team for rookie arena, please?

[wise horizon]

T1 Moran, Pepper, Biscuit, SAnis,. Laplace
T2 Noise, Noah, Scalter, Emilia, Rumani
T3 Scarlet, Blanc, RH, Centi, Jackal
like this?

[brazen ledge]

So, is Trina clip rl ?

[tropic summit]

scarlet bay sbs liter jackal

also put your biscuit in synchro for later SP arena teams

[forest solstice]

okay thanks!

[swift mango]

My 3.5b from 2-3 days ago is barely enough for 10%. Glad I didn't try for more and grinded campaign instead.

[swift mango]

Wait for her release then

[brazen ledge]

She isn’t released what ?

[swift mango]

Just tomorrow.

[eager mountain]

Animation is clip reload

[swift mango]

Gonna be first normal banner SSS since biscuit

[brazen ledge]

She’s SSS in pvp ?

Understandable

[swift mango]

Both Elec support animal theme. confidence?

[swift mango]

Should be SSS if clip RL.

[eager mountain]

She is, if gen is clip, still close enough even if not

[brazen ledge]

Coïncidence maybe

[eager mountain]

By design

[swift mango]

Or intentionally

[brazen ledge]

You said confidence

Thats what I was trying to correct

[oak gale]

also quick question , what should my teams look like/be to keep myself at ch2 constantly or c1 etc? since rn its like trading between me and ch2

[brazen ledge]

Can you show your teams ?

[oak gale]

.

[brazen ledge]

3rd team is bad already

2nd team doesn’t need jackal

1st team has no good b2 burst and bsoda gives feed to scarjack

(But bsoda doesn’t rly matter)

[oak gale]

don tsend more than 3 imgs at the same time

[tropic summit]

i suppose you mean for defense correct?

[oak gale]

yep

[tropic summit]

scar-jack team, 2RL cindy team and a CP bad team (forces enemy on deficit) would be your best candidate
if the 3rd team cannot CP pad, consider scar-jack + 2RL + 3RL stall

[formal cradle]

finally got helms treasure, shes sitting at s2 and shes at 6/5/5 skills (for now) with 2/4 gear overloaded. hows my defense looking now? also wasnt sure at their current investments whether i should use scarlet or Trei (scarlet 7/6/7 skills 4/4 OL, Trei 6/6/6 skills 2/4 OL)
ill definitely be pulling trina asap lol

if its relevant, my emilia and rh both have higher attack than scarlet and Trei

[oak gale]

isnt that what i currently have tho or?

oh wait-

i sent my atk team by mistake , thats the defense team

[umbral belfry]

@tropic summit Might need a bit of help (whenever you have the time ofc! ) I'm trying to think of a team for after maint w/ trina but I'm kinda at a standstill for t2. I'd like to put alice somewhere for help w/ cp (she was originally on t1, but then I wasn't sure where blanc went either) My helmt isn't ready yet

Also ignore placements for rn

[tropic summit]

if emi and rh have higher attack than scarlet then that team needs to be fixed, because scarlet would be out of link and die
as for helmT you need her to be on s1 lvl 10 to maximize on her battery potential

reiT is better on attack than defense, so i'd say opt for scarlet on def

[oak gale]

we all ganging up on rail lmao

[umbral belfry]

us @ rail (with love)

But take your time with me, I'm in no rush

[tropic summit]

why are you still running cindy in p1? t1 and t3 are a bit better, avoid RRH on def due to high feed

[oak gale]

im not sure tbh , last time idk if it was last month or so you sorted that team out i think to secure ch1

[tropic summit]

a bit early to think of a team with trina only because knowing if she's clip RL or not can give a very different scarlet team

either way it's safe to say you could potentially free up RH/blanc for a glass cannon scarlet 2RL

[oak gale]

and been using it ever since then

[tropic summit]

nah i doubt i'd suggest you run cindy in p1

at best p2, ideally p3

unless you trying to make enemy burst in 1RL

[umbral belfry]

Yeah I was thinking that too, which makes sense What's a glass cannon scar team? I don't have RH

[tropic summit]

it would be blanc-less, jackal-less, 2RL (no link and no indom, pure raw fast dmg)

(trina alone is essentially equivalent to blanc + RH buff)

[oak gale]

well idk then but im sure thats what happened last time , unless there was someone else who helped me out with it

[umbral belfry]

Pure raw fast

[tropic summit]

highly suggest if didn't already to not run cindy in p1

[umbral belfry]

And rip me bc i also don't have lap+ yet I'll wait and see for trina testing

until then i continue gearing scar

[swift mango]

Not so glass cannon if she is clip RL .. Moran is gonna be a pain in the arse to beat after you tanked scarlet.

[tropic summit]

la+ can be any clip burst gen tier though, xmaiden preferable for non feeding

[umbral belfry]

it might be time to bring back moran

Yeah I'll get lap+ eventually, I have lap but my focus is helm+ rn

[tropic summit]

yep a very good idea, helmT first

[umbral belfry]

But ty ty!

[oak gale]

ye u did say that
what to do now

[umbral belfry]

Wait in a scar-moran team, would scar still be p1?

[swift mango]

Moran gonna need 4 ATK line more than ever lol ...

Linked Moran Taking all that hit to fill her skill 1 DEF up...

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

Yes

[oak gale]

i did ol sbs from last time , but her skills are still around 4 4 4 since i didnt get the chance to level them up yet

[formal cradle]

Thanks! So does that mean i shouldnt use helmT at all yet? i am prioritizing leveling her s1 but itll take me a long while to get all those skill books lmao (i was going to immediately pull trina and get her skills to 5/5/5 for pvp but not sure if i should right now)
And what would you recommend I do to the emilia team for now? Took another screenshot of the nikkes since theyve moved around a bit since i last showed them

[unkempt kestrel]

anyone know what time is the maintenance? I dont wanna get it wrong and I wanna snipe someone

[swift mango]

5 hours from now.

[unkempt kestrel]

5hours 9min to be exact right?

[swift mango]

Now I need to stop chasing line 3 on Scarlet and save rock for 3 ATK line on Moran...

[tropic summit]

you were given a plan in my build for your def teams

emilia was not with scarlet, so you can just copy that cindy team

[formal cradle]

My apologies, promise ive been studying it lots before sending any message. i just didnt know if my reiT was strong enough to be slotted in on def at this current moment since im still raising her and got confused seeing centi's name on both teams. Sorry

[tropic summit]

nono you don't need to apologize

let's take this moment to take this temporary setup until your helmT is ready

you can remove emi from T2 and replace her with helmT to upgrade to 2RL cindy nuke

once she's ready ofc

(s1 lvl 10)

i've made you a T1 that involves scarlet but ensures she's target of indom (xmaiden being a defender has natural less atk% than RH and scarlet being attackers)

ideally get your scarlet some atk% lines and perhaps remove some from la+, then you can run higher CP team on T1 and use emi in T3 instead of laplace

[tropic summit]

this would balance your CP further (la+ needs to be lower atk% than scarlet, with scarlet on 3-4 atk% lines you should achieve that)

[wise horizon]

What’s a good alternative to T1? @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

would need your box again, definitely want to fix that cindy team

[tropic summit]

i see the dude has no mercy and still trying to punish you for being noahless

[oak gale]

@tropic summit its the same , only exception is liter got her final ol gear so shes now roughly after scarlet , and i started working on helm ol and doll, since sbs needs her skills to be leveled up , and will do so after i max out rapi redhood and asuka , or might do it after rapi only

[tropic summit]

so helmT is not ready yet

[oak gale]

nope , just put the doll on her and will start leveling up her gear , since that past period i was oling several characters that are used frequently or maxing out grave and liter skills to be 4 4 10

[formal cradle]

Just finished reading everything, wow this is extremely helpful, thank you so much!! I really appreciate the help and explanation. Will definitely be focused on scarlets OL lines and leveling helm s1 in the coming weeks :) thanks

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc rh centi jackal
noise cind noir grave rumani
noah biscuit rapu s.anis bsoda

cubes

quantum on centi, jackal, rumani
vigor on blanc, biscuit, rapu, noise
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis, s.anis must be burst lvl 9 at least and no ammo OL

notes: get helmT to stage 2, s1 lvl 10, can then fix cindy team removing SG feed and upgrading to 2RL
notes2: get scarlet more invested, add atk% OLs

[tropic summit]

perfect, no problem you welcome

[tropic summit]

(ensure you're not on CP deficit, emi needs to be linked, T2 can be downgraded to 4RL if needed, try not any slower or blanc and rapu may get going, you want them dead before then)

[keen vapor]

You got RH MLB unfair

[keen vapor]

8B

[oak gale]

back , sorry was doing the dailies
i have no redhood

[tropic summit]

put liter instead of RH

[wise horizon]

emilia is 2nd highest on attack so shes linked. no CP deficit

[tropic summit]

ensure you've RH wishlisted

[tropic summit]

give it a try then, record if you can so we can see how far it goes with indom emilia if noise survives

it should be safely more than enough even with noise HP buff

[pale knoll]

Where my noah after 1.5 years

[tropic summit]

@swift mango took her

[pale knoll]

[tropic summit]

[pale knoll]

Ohh true, tomorrow is the time of truth no?

[tropic summit]

the time i change my alias to Railtracer - CA didn't come

[pale knoll]

[oak gale]

like this?
biscut , noir , ruamani , rapunzel have no ol btw

[pale knoll]

Gonna be funny if the new content is the titles

[tropic summit]

i've a strong bad feeling it may just be that...

[pale knoll]

On the bright side, if it never comes, I don't mind not having noah

[wise horizon]

done. amazing how you can come up with this xD

[tropic summit]

we making those poor lads in your bracket tilt

[tropic summit]

so, safe to say you've little to no invested nikke after this line right?

[wise horizon]

hope so. but this guy never seems to give up >.< always attacking me and not others.....

2 weeks straight. looking at the battle history, all i see is his name...

[tropic summit]

@oak gale can downgrade to this or keep T1 and T3 and just auto T2 for highest CP until you can fix it

raise CP on the following: (4OL lvl 0, doll R15 or SR5, 4/4/4 minimun)

rumani, biscuit, rapunzel

[oak gale]

as for my cubes , my resiliance cube is at lvl 10 and my sanis is like 10 10 10
rapu i placed her on healing cube bc i dont have a slot on the vigor cube , the rest is done as it is , since most cubes i have are 1-3 slots except resiliance

as for the notes what about helm? since i dont rlly understand
and scarlet i do have her full ol (with 3 atk stats)

i invested right until centi , until rapi redhood everyone has decent skill levelup , except naga , and until centi everyone is ol

rn rerolled a bit and got 4 atk stats but her cp went down soo welp-

[tropic summit]

with helmT you can upgrade cindy team easily into 2RL

can switch over centi instead of noir and fix T2 into 2RL

i'd suggest although getting xmaiden more built than noir, as feedless clip burst gen tier is better than feed clip SG burst tier

would then become this

finally fix T3 with rapunzel instead of RRH as soon as it doesn't tank CP too much

[oak gale]

noir isnt rlly on my list to invest atm , since there are more critical characters like helm and sbs and others , but later on i might

[tropic summit]

nah don't invest noir, leave SGs away as much as you can

although to not kill your speed or CP you need them atm

either way with those teams you probably won't be able to defend just yet

too much feed and enemy will run 2RL noah and 3RL scarlet and win

[oak gale]

good?

[tropic summit]

yeah CP wise looks pretty good balanced

as i said before tho, you won't win def yet like that

get the investiments we talked about and you'll start giving enemy trouble

[hollow abyss]

Hi. I would like to build a pvp team around treasure viper but I don't understand shit in pvp please someone

[oak gale]

so rn i should invest ol and doll into helm and get her doll to level up to the treasure?

[tropic summit]

post your box with nikke ordered by strength and we can take it from there

[tropic summit]

yes absolutely, helmT priority over everything else, unless your campaign team or kraken team isn't finished

[oak gale]

well there isnt anyway i can do more of the campaign or kraken since my team is mostly invested in , aka liter grave quency cindrella and flexable between jackal and phantom or bunnysoda , so rn im just leveling up things for either solo raid or pvp

so ye , not much stressed on campaign or kraken , especially since i need to farm some gear now for helm and others

[wanton island]

how we doin fellas?

i see rail is at it again, helping us peons

[oak gale]

yep 💀 kinda feeling guilty about it considering how early im stil to have a stable team or fixed solution

[hollow abyss]

fyi, I'm a free to play player

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[hollow abyss]

I started the game last summer at the end of gold rush event

[wanton island]

youre further than me.

[oak gale]

really? i started around the last summer event , right as sanis's banner was ending

[wanton island]

i started when flora released

[tropic summit]

ok there's... a lot to do with this account

[oak gale]

nvm i dont feel guilty anymore

[hollow abyss]

You're saying this like this is a bad omen I'm scared

[oak gale]

damn i see

[tropic summit]

first of all, these need to end up in synchro, ideally 4/4/4 with 4 ols lvl 0

biscuit, noise, centi, rumani, noah, jackal, cinderella
consider xmaiden aswell

best you can pull off as of right now...

scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
viper liter rrh drake laplace
auto (highest CP leftover)

to be honest, you're essentially behind in all core pvp utilities (batteries)

[hollow abyss]

yeah I'v never cared about pvp because I'm was busy trying to have a good team for the story

[tropic summit]

in terms of priority:

1. jackal, noah, centi, biscuit, helm treasured
2. rumani, noise, cinderella, rapunzel (wishlist)
3. xmaiden, laplace treasure

start to get those in 1st up to pace (4/4/4, 2 or 4OL pieces, doll R5-R15)

[pale knoll]

Maint in 5 hours?

[hollow abyss]

ok thanks a lot I took a screen of what you said I will follow this for the future but f2p make this an ordeal

[oak gale]

my laptop totally didnt crash bc nikke just now 💀

so helm skills could be 4 4 4 or need higher?

[tropic summit]

yeah take ur time, it was a good decision to focus on pve anyway you didn't do a mistake there

progression is your first concern, pvp can be adjusted afterward

[tropic summit]

helmT skills need to be 10/x/x stage 2 for the sole purpose of battery

else you can aim for 10/x/10 for the extra purpose of link killer or solo target dmg

[oak gale]

and sbs?

[oak gale]

so i should get helm to 10 4 10 , then focus on getting sbs up , all while ruamani getting ol gear and rapunzel

and maybe biscut too

@tropic summit thanks alot man , exhausted you with my pvp stuff 💀

[tropic summit]

yeah pretty much

[tropic summit]

no worries, take ur time building them up

[oak gale]

[wanton island]

i got so close with helm's doll

1000 away from next phase

[lunar pawn]

this channel better not be sleeping tonight

[bleak shale]

y not

[keen vapor]

Maintenance snipe

[crystal flicker]

it's only 4hrs tho

[umbral crown]

Imagine sniping

[keen vapor]

I can't

[eternal finch]

New season. New DEF team comps I would love to try please. My highest cube is Quantum at 12. The rest at 11.

[pale knoll]

You are in my bracket

[eternal finch]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-gif-5677380953331354485

[pale knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/peepocomfy-peepo-comfy-cozy-blanket-gif-24439687

[tropic summit]

already done, the moment my deutsch friend went to sleep my trap card activated

whale hunting season is strong for the next 2 months

[tropic summit]

helm treasured? s1 lvl 10? laplace treasured?

[umbral crown]

Because boxes issues

[umbral crown]

Waos

[eternal finch]

Laplace maxed treasure. Helm treasure lvl 2

[umbral crown]

My friendo whale just gave up and is sitting in C2

[tropic summit]

and skill 1 lvl 10?

[tropic summit]

considering the crap you've dealt with, maybe it's finally out of respect?
or perhaps just exhausted

[eternal finch]

For Helm?

[tropic summit]

yup

[eternal finch]

yup, she is 10/10/8

[umbral crown]

Or just do not wanna log in to much for pvp

Just once a day and collect gems

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc rh emi jackal - requirement is scarlet being 1st or 2nd highest atk% (OL included, else rotate emi with laplace)
noise centi cind helmT rumani
noah biscuit rapu s.anis la+

quantum on jackal, emi, centi, rumani
vigor on blanc, biscuit, rapu, noise
resil on s.anis, s.anis must be burst lvl 9 minimun, no ammo OL
temperance on noah
anyone else run highest lvl cube available (resil/bastion)

let me know if this def fails as we can come up with a different stall team (helmT oriented)

notes: can consider investing on CS% on your batteries (centi, rumani, jackal) and noise (aim for 17% on all of these), allows faster bursting on some variations (2.5RL over 3RL)
notes2: consider investing more in rosanna, aim for 30-40% atk, SR15 doll

[umbral belfry]

I sense potential snipes on the horizon

[lunar pawn]

[dire root]

I need to check what time maintenance is and be constantly refreshing my rank in the last 3 minutes in case someone pulls a fast one.

I will not be knocked off 3rd for hours, I acutally have a chance at 3rd this time around.

[umbral belfry]

It's in a little less than 2 hrs (7 pm if you're pdt)

[dire root]

I wonder how long you have to be in 3rd before it becomes impossible for 3rd to be taken from you, assuming you get knocked to 4th.

[dire root]

You mean 4 hours?

[umbral belfry]

It's expected to last for 4 hours

[dire root]

"it's in"

I blanked that part out when reading your message rip.

[umbral belfry]

Me everyday

[dire root]

I wish that one dude would attack and use up his last attempt, I would feel so safe.

I have a feeling he is waiting

[umbral belfry]

[dire root]

Can you see which teams someone attacked you with? I think he added more combat power onto team 2 in response to me but I'm not sure.

[raven plover]

if its only 1 guy you trade place with just get 3rd place 13 hours a day

[dire root]

Assuming someone else on our bracket doesn't join the fight for 3rd. Then things get really messy.

[eager mountain]

[raven plover]

ye its hard to track if multiple players bring you down

[dire root]

I think at that point it will just be who ever attacks when the other 2 are alseep.

babe wake up, it's 3am it's time to attack in SP arena for that 3rd place spot.

how sweaty that would be

honestly it really isn't worth sweating that much over 300 gems.

[eager mountain]

its tiresome

[upper grove]

It's about sending a message

[upper grove]

Had 1 guy ratting me 2mins before reset

[dire root]

1st whale place sleeps like a baby, no one can possibly move him from 1st ever.

maybe if he gave the other players a year or so to build up then maybe they could move him

dude played the game for a month then dropped a house payment on the game.

[dire root]

Did you catch him?

Or did he get the last laugh.

[robust blaze]

what's the most general rookie arena comp? ik scarlet is really strong but my sanis/cindy/sbs is much higher cp by like 20k

idk how the meta has changed with rrh and helmtr

[dire root]

I'm not actually sure if this is the smart or not, but I just put highest combat power on defense to try to hold my spot and then use a actual burst team comp when attacking.

I think combat power is the best defense.

[upper grove]

nah, he just hit me and we were both always top 3 so it didn't matter. most insane thing is rather, he's using Korean client and that's 5 AM reset for Korea, for me it's 9PM and I'm usually playing then

[robust blaze]

hmm thanks. hopefully we get more input too

[upper grove]

wait for trina for scarlets full potential

[dire root]

high combat power is the best defense you can have right?

[upper grove]

in theory yes, >15.4% deficit = stat reduction

[dire root]

it's much harder to beat deficit then it is the beat a team comp with equal combat power.

[upper grove]

some deficit gap teams are so bad though, can still beat them with a good team

if deficit is big enough, no team will help

[dire root]

What normally happens in large deficit is the high combat power team shoots for 3 seconds and then the other team is dead

[upper grove]

but that's either dead bracket or whale territory if you are in an active bracket

[leaden canyon]

does helm have her treasure?

[robust blaze]

yes, stage 2

[leaden canyon]

what level is skill 1

[robust blaze]

she is 7/6/4 rn, working toward 7/7/4

[upper grove]

go 10/x/x for pvp

[dire root]

Everytime I look at this guy I'm amazed, is this what all whales are like?

3 copies of almost everything

[robust blaze]

i dont got the resources 😭

[dire root]

like 50 levels past 2nd.

[upper grove]

if you want to focus on pvp get her S1 to 10 next, now you have a goal. nobody has enough skill books

seeing your acc is most likely pve/sr focused though, helm for pve wants S2 maxed instead - or rather, s2 maxed first instead of s1

[leaden canyon]

noah noise jackal cindy helm

Can try that, however for what you have invested you could try this sbs team

@robust blaze

may need to use rumani in place of xmaiden though as helm skill 1 is not 10 and you probably dont have quantum 7 cubes

[robust blaze]

okay thanks

[umbral crown]

@tropic summit

@keen vapor imagine snipping

[dire root]

Do players stay in SP if they go inactive?

or does it kick you out at somepoint?

[umbral crown]

During shuffle they get yeeted

[dire root]

I hope 2 more whales don't get shuffled in and fully lock me out of every getting 3k gems.

[umbral crown]

[dire root]

they don't even need the gems.

they have so much yet they want more.

[umbral crown]

Be the whale~

[spare nimbus]

Winnable?

[dire root]

Aha I was waiting

oh no

[umbral crown]

[dire root]

well this is going to be a problem

[umbral crown]

100 gems

[dire root]

Yep it's over, i will soon be locked out of 3rd.

they are over wall so I doubt I will be able to defend against them

soon they will get more combat power and it will be a lock out

[umbral crown]

Probably, team 2 20% deficit

[dire root]

Man wall sucks

[umbral crown]

For enemy

[dire root]

it is the worst part of this game and depressing

[umbral crown]

Diamond

[umbral crown]

Just bear ir till ou brea the wall

[upper grove]

live lvl up

[spare nimbus]

so do u think it will win?

[umbral crown]

[upper grove]

team 2 should win ez, team 1 your noah should block their cindy

[umbral crown]

Team 2 jn deficit but having 2 SGs not goos but rosanna wouks dispell link..

[dire root]

Going to snipe the dude last minute.

[upper grove]

deficit in team 2 should be big enough even with 2 SGs right, especially with rosanna dispel

[dire root]

is the server shut down on the dot? I'm not sure if I should hit a minute before or so.

[umbral crown]

Kinda

[dire root]

Their pvp teams are pretty weak I was about to ask how they beat me and then I saw blanc, blanc is instant win against my red hood.

red hood might as well not even have a burst III with blanc on the board

[umbral crown]

I lived that experience once

[dire root]

Sweet end season now. No need to continue guys. pack it up.

[umbral belfry]

[vapid lake]

Maint in 18 min, remember to https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1339546087408799794/worrysnipe.png?ex=67d35e42&is=67d20cc2&hm=81b36e95ccbb51d4ea36bc18d3ab937de989c4179d6c8f74326ccbf520b08081&

[umbral crown]

No reason uwu

[upper grove]

ch1-3 in my bracket is just us hitting each other for no reason

[dire root]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-gif-19686970

[upper grove]

just a rat contest at this point

[dire root]

10 minutes until operation snip start

[umbral crown]

They do not even try

[dire root]

Wow that combat power gap between 2nd and 1st, I'm suprised they can't just combat power bully you one round and then team comp win another.

[umbral crown]

I won against whale 4 days ago but he just chilling getin his 3k gems

The others do not even try, Pelg was trying but gave up like 1 week ago

[dire root]

I don't think it's possible to beat the whale in my bracket.

the combat power gap is just too large.

[umbral crown]

C3 and C4 are 361+, but have similar cp like.me at 338

[dire root]

I assume their team comp is just worse?

[umbral crown]

C3 kinda interesting, C4 not much and C5 decent

[dire root]

or are they just combat power pumping their team to hold position, I sometimes think about just kicking my feet up and enjoying 2700 gems without worrying about getting higher up.

I wonder when I snipe Metal.

a minute before? 2 minutes before.

[umbral crown]

1 minute before

[dire root]

I have never fought him before so I'm not 100% but I'm pretty sure I win.

I have combat advantage in 2 rounds

[vapid lake]

make sure they aren't online

[raven plover]

ready to snipe you. brace yourself https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1339546087408799794/worrysnipe.png?ex=67d35e42&is=67d20cc2&hm=81b36e95ccbb51d4ea36bc18d3ab937de989c4179d6c8f74326ccbf520b08081&

[vapid lake]

They can stop u by sitting on the arena screen and constantly reshuffling their teams to give you updated info error until maint starts

[quick lake]

maint just 4hours

[dire root]

How do you tell?

[vapid lake]

How hoboman gonna snipe me from his bracket

Block all of them

Now u can see in ur block list if they're camping or not

[umbral crown]

That was fixed

[umbral belfry]

[vapid lake]

When was it fixed

[dire root]

About to click.

[umbral crown]

Like 3 maints ago

[upper grove]

I'm the only one sub 301 in top 4, 4th place is only one who is 321+

[vapid lake]

Damn so i can't stop rats anymore

[umbral crown]

Go openboxes

C4 has cp issues

[upper grove]

333 even, I'm 294

[umbral crown]

At 280 i was 1.2m

[upper grove]

will do after maintenance and after I get hit, wanna surprise them

[dire root]

Ah snipe didn't work, man they kicked the hell out of me in this round, I thought I had enough combat power I guess I need more.

[upper grove]

will hit 301 then

[dire root]

need more power

[umbral crown]

Burst issues then

[dire root]

Oh combat power issue, I didn't have naga in that team.

[quick lake]

and maint time. Eepy now

[eager mountain]

good old maintenance snipe

[dire root]

because I shuffled anchor in for a different fight

[umbral crown]

[dire root]

I lost like 8k combat power

[lunar pawn]

success

[vapid lake]

Eeping at 10am?

[umbral crown]

Its all about learling

[umbral crown]

10 pm*

Also i would

[keen vapor]

[graceful grotto]

snipe before maintenance

[keen vapor]

I did it

[upper grove]

🐀 gaming

[lunar pawn]

arena about to get wilder

[keen vapor]

CA

please champion arena, please give rocks as rewards

[quick lake]

I doubt CA... maint only 4 hours long...

[dire root]

man that's a relief, now holding 3rd place is metals problem, enjoy fighting the other guy until the end of time sucker.

[upper grove]

skill books or rocks

[dire root]

should have stayed in the lower ranks, in 3rd you are target number 1

[keen vapor]

You only need 4 hours to test one mode

[dire root]

1 and 2 are very safe, 3rd you are the most wanted man in the bracket.

[vapid lake]

I'm #3 and i get ignored

[umbral crown]

Imagine rank 9

When uou were c2

[umbral crown]

No, do kraken

[keen vapor]

I was C6-4

[keen vapor]

I do but

I have a lot of rolls to do