pvp-arena

[quick lake]

Then Rumani OL next

[dire belfry]

My account is solo raid focused I hit top 1% for sea but my pvp teams are so ass

So when you say I should be challenger that's sad

[quick lake]

U should be easily top 10 with a bit more pvp knowledge. I didnt change my teams for month and sat comfortable at top 7

[dire belfry]

I think my bracket is a bit too Whaley

Their sync levels are really high

[quick lake]

I think its more teambuiding + attacking correctly tbh

Welps, if they're 20-40+ syncs higher, then u're probably stuck

[dire belfry]

Yeah that's the case

[quick lake]

wow, actually SEA 1% is super sweaty

[dire belfry]

im more than satisfied being top 30 but with your help I should definitely be back there comfortably

I dont have any treasure units at all yet but looks like laplace will be my first

Who will she replace from the teams you gave me

I have so many doll and treasure mats

[quick lake]

Can swap BSoda out for Laplace treasure. Imo should wait out for new treasures as well. Drake/Helm/Milk and interesting for pve/pvp

[keen vapor]

Miranda will be my first or maybe Helm

Why I'm being sussed again

@vapid lake explain

[vapid lake]

isn't it obvious, if u claim to focus pvp u should make laplace treasure first

[keen vapor]

But I already have Emilia and Maiden

[vapid lake]

They not iron

[keen vapor]

RH is iron, Rapi is Iron

[vapid lake]

But do they splash and murder ppl who put biscuit/noise/any other elec unit p2

[keen vapor]

He ditched Rosanna!

@tropic summit he knows how to cook

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

What's wrong @quick lake :pepeh:

[swift mango]

You could also have an old account that fell behind in core dust and credit income. After all, raid doesn't require you to be strict with your playing routine time to get high.

[keen vapor]

He changed exactly the teams I defeated

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[quick lake]

I thought u would have a treasure or 2 or 3

[swift mango]

Echo know this best.

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

I have none

[vapid lake]

Are u srsly looking at ur own post in real time and watching for reacts are u that bored right now

[keen vapor]

I get notifications

nice try

[vapid lake]

Why dont u turn it off i rmb retro complaining about this and he found out how to turn it off

[keen vapor]

I want to know when I get a new upvote on #1316960758793240676

Basically, idk the pain of making guides yet

[bleak shale]

me who was one of the first to spot laplace treasure gen, still havent treasured her

[coarse lake]

oh a nice cindy setup

you know how to counter?

[keen vapor]

I beated it first try

[coarse lake]

oh nice, what did you use

[keen vapor]

Funnily enough, Noah biscuit summer anis couldn't defeat new variation

[coarse lake]

btw if you're a SP whale currently at sync 400 with the name Nana, pls DM me, we can sort out an arrangement, you get to know when I attack and get def team advice, and I get to test out setups on you, win-win

[keen vapor]

Yeah, I used Noah

Next try I actually tried a Blanc setup (it didn't work

[coarse lake]

blanc setup need your p2 to be your b1, and have cindy

so p1 p2 live due to invuln, cindy lives due to decoy

[keen vapor]

Yeah

[coarse lake]

rumani stonks very high

jackal severely hurts the comp

jackal + cindy is almost always a bad idea

[keen vapor]

I need to overload

Well, I wasn't on deficit but still

[keen vapor]

Nah, I used Emilia bad idea, SBS would have worked better

[coarse lake]

your b3 has to be cindy

[limber rampart]

guys could u help me set up 3 team for sp arena? 😢

[coarse lake]

or you blanc indom before they nuke

cindy is the only unit that lives through cindy nuke completely unharmed with no support needed

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Fine, but next time you'll send on horizontal

[keen vapor]

Synch Centi please

[coarse lake]

she's the wish.com cindy

unironically.... usable

p1 blanc, p2 cindy, rei elsewhere

so your burst chain still intact after nuke

or just put cindy elsewhere too, and have your p2 be whatever

[keen vapor]

Yeah, but beating team 3 wasn't a problem

Is either of these 2

Apparently idk how to beat myself since I use that Noah team

[quick lake]

Taunt Defender + Biscuit easy game vs SBS

[keen vapor]

That's what I thought

What you're seeing is failure

[glad meteor]

Noise taunt prio?

[quick lake]

Just Moran + Biscuit + SAnis 3RL-3.5RL

[glad meteor]

[keen vapor]

Well, I think? I started getting damage after full burst

[quick lake]

Yeah seems like it then

[keen vapor]

Nah, I don't trust Moran Biscuit anymore

[glad meteor]

sbs should be dead by then

[keen vapor]

I only got her to half HP one attack line MLB isn't enough ig

[glad meteor]

After full burst ended. Or after Noah invul

[keen vapor]

After Noah, Noise getting damage

After full burst, the team getting damage

[quick lake]

I keep getting the "disconnected" bug when attacking my rank 1 whale stupid bug

[glad meteor]

Ah. So noise prio

[quick lake]

Dont need noise there. Noise useless

Noah Biscuit SAnis RH Battery

[keen vapor]

I really need her to get charge speed off

[quick lake]

Just dont put Noise and Noah tgt

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[glad meteor]

That’s the problem with noise and Noah. Need to save rocks when rolling them or brick

[quick lake]

We just want Noah cs to be higher than noise right?

[glad meteor]

Noise CS higher

And max ammo same i think

[keen vapor]

Why

Why not Noise lower but Noah P2

[glad meteor]

Noah has taunt prio on full charge

[glad meteor]

Pythagoras maybe

[quick lake]

I need go read on how the taunt/attract first or last priority works

[glad meteor]

Distance

[keen vapor]

Ok, so God comp uses P5 Noah....

Great

[quick lake]

For taunt, i.e. Noise and Noah, the most recent "taunt" will take precedence

[coarse lake]

any position noah works with good tune

as long as noise p1

[keen vapor]

Horizontal next time

Now bed time good night to everyone

[restive heart]

its still 1:50pm

[quick lake]

No more need for Rapi

[umbral belfry]

does placement matter in pvp? and if so? where should the squishests go?

[swift mango]

Check pin but in short

P1: Most dangerous.
P5: Dangerous when you attack because SG in defense team hit it.
P2: Dangerous because flash dmg from RL hitting p1.

P3: Generally safe but Emilia flash hit here.

P4: Safest. Unless you are attacking and p5 ded.

[umbral belfry]

[dire belfry]

@quick lake thanks I’m back in diamond 2 now

[quick lake]

Ezpz

Everyone else is at 440-461 sync

[west briar]

help me 2 team for pvp again plss

[gaunt sentinel]

a new enemy huh

wait a minute, man i got a fan

[quick lake]

T1: Noah Centi Cindy BSoda Noise
T2: Blanc SBS Maiden Pepper xMaiden
T3: Auto

[white compass]

Potentially braindead dumb question. Does Emilia *Require the quantum cube for pvp? I just got 2 lines of 4.63 charge speed, and with S1 at lvl 7, I'm only at 9.26+11.65= 20.91 charge speed out of 21%. I can give her the charge speed cube to hit the key 21%but then .. no Quantum. Pointless?

[quick lake]

Ooops just saw ur question here

Using cs cube is fine

[white compass]

Eh I usually post at both spots cause more leads to a reply lol

Any higher than 4.63% is a 1% chance.

[quick lake]

Have to find another piece to reroll

[white compass]

How come you said aim for 21.8 just in case? Does something in the game not register the 21?

[quick lake]

I think the standard has been 21%. Some JP source quoted 21.49%. Corrected, its 21.49 not 21.8 btw

It’s milliseconds difference in the end, not sure how much of a difference either way

[swift mango]

It's fine

[white compass]

Oh hmm

[swift mango]

No need CS cube

[strong hull]

Elo kitchen

@swift mango i definitely need a rebuild 3 defs now

Maybe this time ill let Rail cook

[swift mango]

Your old def doesn't work anymore? Lol

[strong hull]

Yea

They beat the chill out of me

Specially ein since she hasnt built

[covert lintel]

emilia with quantum cube is a must

[swift mango]

You could resend your box, I will just make 2 teams this time then you auto the other.

Ask rail too when he online.

Sometime people just wanted to hit you. Like my bracket. The dudes there only want to hit me regardless even though other guys def are much worse

[strong hull]

👍

I want Rail build me this time

[undone steeple]

what is the ultimate 3 team build if you have every single nikke including collab units?

[swift mango]

The ultimate 3 team are the teams that have 1.65 times the CP of your enemies.

[strong hull]

The power of money

[swift mango]

Lemme check again, do you have Jackal and Biscuit?

[strong hull]

ill give it to you when im home sure i have both

[swift mango]

And how do your level comparing to top 10, top 20. Of your bracket?

3 teams CP as well comparing to them.

[strong hull]

From top 5 above they are whale so 30lv diff the rest only gap 3 or same sync

[swift mango]

If the level are the same from 6 up to top 20 then you really have no place in staying unless you out login and try to keep c6-7 as much as possible. And ofc out invest them.

[strong hull]

[swift mango]

Some bracket are worse than another, just like this

If you can't def one of them you immediately become top 10 below

[strong hull]

Pretty sad we counter each other lol

[lunar dirge]

welcome https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1321849066266689607

[quick lake]

The fact that it hasnt been resolved means its a big bug, means CA delayed some more

[lunar dirge]

Seems like my ca investments are delayed too

Moran will have my books another time

[raven plover]

so this bug is intentional to delay CA?

[lunar dirge]

2026 it is

[quick lake]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[bleak latch]

[worthy knoll]

Makima.. but 228

[swift mango]

CA release will be partially fixed in 2027. So this bug is just the introduction to 'partially resolved'

[brazen ledge]

hi, pretty much finished investing in rosanna now, what teams are the best teams i can do ?

after ein everyone is below 100k, cindy is 85k, rumani 57k

[swift mango]

Scarlet+Mast/Crown/Anis+Centi+Rossanna+Jackal

Blanc+(Emilia+RH, to P2 whoever you want to burst 3 with)+Biscuit+Rumani

Don't @ me if you lose though.

Noise+Noah+SBS/ASS+Rapunzel+Laplace

[brazen ledge]

why i don't @ you ?

[tropic summit]

plot twist, it's someone in this chat

[swift mango]

Because those teams are low power so only look good anyway.

[quick lake]

Does ur Rosanna have 4-x-10, more than 30% OL atk?

[brazen ledge]

25% Atk 30% ele

working on more atk

7/10/10

[quick lake]

Ele lower priority tbh. Atk is good

[brazen ledge]

ye ik its just a black line i got

[swift mango]

Your burst gen units all having low-no investment so it's hard to def if your bracket is even a bit sweaty

That's why I put Mast/Anis sacr to Rossanna team lol...

[olive herald]

Need help with PvP teams, both Rookie & Special. It's ok if the character is not build as I have many resources safe up.

[brazen ledge]

at 1.5m power i get top 4/5, 3 against 1 guy

[swift mango]

Wdym 3 against 1 guy lol?

[brazen ledge]

theres 6 nikkes there or is there smth i don't understand ? where sanis ?

[brazen ledge]

1 guy beats the other ones but not me

but i don't beat them

[swift mango]

Units that splited by (/) are those at same position.

[brazen ledge]

and whos ass

[quick lake]

Summer Anis

[swift mango]

Anis is ass, Ngl

[brazen ledge]

can't i replace rumani with someone else ?

i have 0 investment in her she has trash cp

like tia ?

[quick lake]

Hard to replace cause Rumani is clip RL

High burst gen

[brazen ledge]

heh

i don't wanna invest in rumani i have to invest in rrh alr

new squads (attacker) old (defender) they are better ?

[tropic summit]

synch lvl 228, but got these?

what's the amount of brick in this one

[olive herald]

haven't play since crown release

[tropic summit]

then mate you're gonna have a very bad time in pvp, most of your opponents will be way ahead of you

even assuming you'll get a good team set up, the mere difference in progression is gonna be killing you

[olive herald]

won't pvp reset and stuff?

[tropic summit]

that's not how it works, it "resets" as in reshuffles you into a pvp bracket with opponents with same date of creation as your accounts

and active accounts at that

e.g. if someone stops for 6 months, he'll get placed with people who kept playing for 6 months anyway

you've got options of course:

-if you care about pvp/rankings, better make a new account and start from scratch
-if you don't care, you could "try your best" and achieve perhaps a lucky gold/platinum
-just skip pvp content altogether and get the rank you can with minimun effort

[olive herald]

starting from scratch sounds like a waste of my characters in my old acc. OPtion 3 sounds the best I think

[tropic summit]

yeah that's viable, you could still try to get silver/gold, it's a few gems but better than nothing

[tropic summit]

either way i guess you could run these 3 teams

emilia blanc liter nihil jackal (ensure emi is lowest HP%, can place vigor as needed on nihil and blanc)
crown rapu s.anis biscuit centi (s.anis should've resil cube and lvl 9 burst skill)
makima anis rh pepper noir

keep in mind opponents could beat you just due CP difference, but you might defend on at least people more bricked than your account

[swift mango]

You could swap Tia and Laplace.

ASS out, SBS in. So you have 3 x 3 RL teams

[olive herald]

TY

[swift mango]

And how is ur Anis (Sr)?

[brazen ledge]

i upgraded rumani a bit shes at 75k now

anis is at 63

[cedar gate]

SP arena teams? Im willing to invest in other nikkes

[lunar dirge]

ass out

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
noah biscuit s.anis b.soda noise
rumani centi cind alice rapu

cubes:

vigor on blanc, biscuit, noise, rapu
temperance on noah
quantum on jackal, centi, rumani
s.anis needs to have resil and lvl 9 burst skill (ammo requirement), if not use SBS instead of s.anis

notes:

can consider synchro and OL head+torso 4/4/4 anis for extra battery to hit 2.5RL or 2RL on cinderella team

[cedar gate]

Who do i swap Anis with in team 3?

[tropic summit]

the team would become

centi rumani cind anis rapu

to push it further, can become 2RL

keep in mind removing alice although does decrease the CP, so that's to consider

while it might work better on offense, where you know opponent and CP, on defense it might be best leaving it to 3RL with CP padded alice

[cedar gate]

I see, thanks

[keen vapor]

Literally me:

[hallow trench]

guys u can help me pls making my special arena teams now ?

[quasi prism]

I'm today's day old when I learned cosmograph made dement after legend.

[crimson island]

What can I do with sp arena points?

[keen vapor]

Noah

[keen vapor]

You get the gems based on that

It auto claims at the end of the season as well

[crimson island]

Ah okay thank you

[tropic summit]

do you've quantum lvl 3?

[tropic summit]

noah sbs alice anis noise
jackal poli cind naga xmaiden
centi rrh ein pepper tia (if ein burst is higher lvl than rrh, put rrh in p4 and pepper in p2 to enable ein to B3)

cubes:

quantum lvl 3 needed to hit 3RL on T2, else 3.5RL, as for the screenshot provided
vigor on pepper, noise
temperance on noah
anyone else run any high lvl available cube

notes:

wishlist asap: biscuit, scarlet and invest in jackal a bit more (she's rock bottom)

[hallow trench]

cube ?

yes i am on it 😄

[hallow trench]

ty very much!!!

[tropic summit]

slap this bad boy on them

[keen vapor]

Surely Centi doesn't dies/Rapi's unable to do B1

[tropic summit]

3rd team was made from the finest amount of copium

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

also

[keen vapor]

hiiii good morning

[keen vapor]

I mean, if pepper is on P1 then we can keep Centi safe enough @hallow trench

[tropic summit]

yeah, a good idea to limit the risk

never bothered checking, but doesn't tia taunt within 3RL at least after 2RL? @keen vapor

taunt/attract don't remember

[keen vapor]

Tia taunts on 5RL

[tropic summit]

oh ok

that might be a tad late

[keen vapor]

Rumani will on 4RL-3RL depending on team speed

[hallow trench]

so i change pepper to s1 on team 3 ?

[keen vapor]

Position 1, yes

Or Rapi if you prefer to keep the battery ( ) alive

[strange verge]

what's the best team for both arenas? (rookie and special)
I have everyone apart from the chainsaw man collab characters (makima and power)

[keen vapor]

Rail, where's 2.3 version, not the beta one without Emi

Found it

For rookie, pick the one of the three who's higher combat power

[hallow trench]

for rookie i do the same ?

[keen vapor]

choose Noah team

[brazen ledge]

@keen vapor ppl here recommended me this team (attacker), i had the teams at the bottom before, are they better ?

[tropic summit]

you like?

[tropic summit]

hmm i suppose CP wise it's probably the best out of 3, also offers anti nuke protection

[keen vapor]

I would choose Noah any day over no survivability

[tropic summit]

yeah very reasonable

[tropic summit]

unbuffed scarlet but gain 40k CP...

[brazen ledge]

what ???

[tropic summit]

the choices you're given

if your opponents won't CP gap you, it's a good choice, otherwise it's a bad one

you need to consider those

[brazen ledge]

what do i change

[tropic summit]

regardless an unbuffed scarlet is kinda dissapointing, i wouldn't go for it

[keen vapor]

Well, they are better

But I would try to increase CP for the weakest teams, probably Noah summer Anis

@brazen ledge what's Rosanna investment?

[brazen ledge]

25%~ atk, 30% ele and 7/10/10

[keen vapor]

Oh, very good then

[tropic summit]

p1 and water code killer

a dolled RH or the likes might survive tho

[umbral crown]

Need more atk but its fine for now

[keen vapor]

Is MLB of course is fine

[tropic summit]

calm down don't raise your pressure

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

:Chime annoyed:

[umbral crown]

Are you sure about that

[keen vapor]

[brazen ledge]

and so what are the teams i should do ?

[umbral crown]

[brazen ledge]

im investing a bit in rumani

[umbral crown]

Well, break is over

[tropic summit]

damn that was fast

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

hang in there

[umbral crown]

Was Just 1h uwu

[keen vapor]

The new ones?

[umbral crown]

5 more hours to go

[brazen ledge]

Yes

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

meanwhile sitting on my sofa, in slippers, playing ZZZ looking at my fox girl with a katana

[keen vapor]

Then I think Rosanna team is the best option to increase CP first

[brazen ledge]

I can still upgrade scarlets doll to lvl 15

It’s lvl 10

[keen vapor]

What about the batteries, centi and jackal

They should be R15

[brazen ledge]

The cubes ???

Lvl 15 !?!????

[keen vapor]

Did you said.... Slippers?

[keen vapor]

Dolls!

R (blue) doll at phase 15

[brazen ledge]

Oke

Ill do rapipi first

[keen vapor]

Okey

Noah the strongest 💪

[cedar orbit]

am I the only one or xMaiden is not balanced?

[glad meteor]

Not balanced how

I like her kit, defender and kills jackal link

And good gen, low feed

[cedar orbit]

she invalidates defenses

[glad meteor]

too op for offense?

[coarse lake]

yo anyone got an opponent with noah + biscuit, with no other sustain, try blanc/rapi/rh/biscuit/rumani(or jackal)

[glad meteor]

Maybe, I don’t have lap+, so I’ve definitely been taking advantage of what she provides. Can run 2RL noah biscuit to beat scar jack easy

[coarse lake]

or if you need to be 3rl to indom in time, do blanc/rapi/rumani/biscuit/centi

also need a good enough invest rapi

40%+ ele, skills at least 7/7/7

pls record and ping me with vid and rapi invest

[brazen ledge]

but the teams i got are better even with 80k less cp ?

[keen vapor]

What

[keen vapor]

Yes

You should invest the weak units of course, with dolls/overload gear

[strong hull]

You know what time is it

Cooking time

[brazen ledge]

Ok thanks

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[hallow trench]

i am looking the cubes and dont have vigor and temperance 😦

[strong hull]

Get it done

🫵

[tropic summit]

that's fine, use them only when you unlock them, place any higher lvl cube instead meanwhile

[tropic summit]

but ye, the comfy kind

[quasi prism]

@keen vapor remember I mentioned the guy in my bracket who would dump gems just to maintain second place?

Back at it again

He used at least 4 attacks to go back into second

🤣

[obtuse sand]

still a newb, grace me your synergy mastery with the units i have hahaha

[restive heart]

no jackal?

💀

[obtuse sand]

i dont have her hahaha

that's why i am saying earlier, if i had gotten rouge earlier, i could have picked up jackal instead hahaha

[tropic summit]

no jackal, no rumani, no centi, you gonna struggle on batteries

also no noah and no scarlet

[obtuse sand]

i do struggle now on it, good grief i can still land on dia1 every time arena season ends hahaha

[tropic summit]

hmm considering these cards, you might wanna go 1 padded team and 2 pseudo decent teams

your wishlist must be a christmas tree

[restive heart]

noise-crown-cindy-xMaiden-drake
blanc-sbs-rh-biscuit-bsoda
cp pad team

cant think of doing last team

considering you dont have pvp core units

[obtuse sand]

anyway, regarding this, can i revise my wishlist now that i have broken the 160 wall? and put these pvp units on the wishlist instead?

[tropic summit]

well absolutely, as long as your campaign team is carrying just fine

since you got alice, rh, liter, crown, grave, cind you're probably fine

[obtuse sand]

cool! i'll swap them in then

[tropic summit]

you wanna get those batteries and especially landing early a noah and jackal will drastically improve your odds

[obtuse sand]

this should be fine, no?

[tropic summit]

yeah looks good

[obtuse sand]

my 2nd month will be shifted on the pvp side of the game now hahaa

[tropic summit]

you can run either of these 2, one is kinzari suggestion (on the right)

i'm not a fan of a noise 4RL as the only B1 as she might die pre burst, 3RL should give her better odds to at least cast her B1

put anis in sychro to get at least 1 battery

while 3rd team has indeed to be auto, you got nothing

[restive heart]

i sometimes forgor base anis

[tropic summit]

yeah it's gonna tank a bit their CP, but at least it has a chance as 3RL

[lunar dirge]

4rl noise as a only b1 unit?time for my crown team cook

[restive heart]

[tropic summit]

i'm actually running a 4RL crown against 3RL emilia, loving it on attack, but on def... i'd never

[obtuse sand]

arena is dominated by rl, yes?

[tropic summit]

it's situational, although on average on defense 3RL gives you better odds

[obtuse sand]

coz that bursts faster?

[restive heart]

you need to explain the rl mechanic to him....

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[tropic summit]

i've got an easy way out

[lunar dirge]

crown rapu s.anis rosanna naga,all in

[restive heart]

[tropic summit]

give this a 5 min read when you got the time, helps you understand RL and jargon for arena

https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

[lunar dirge]

it actually wins against 2rl cindy and almost all unprotected/low protected p1 teams

heck

it even won against biscuitless godcomp sbs

[obtuse sand]

on my to do today, thanks man

[tropic summit]

what in the world is that

[lunar dirge]

the idea is to kill enemy p1,let ypur crown die

[tropic summit]

oh you sacc

now it makes much more sense

[lunar dirge]

also

it might just kill both p1 and p2

[tropic summit]

due to rosanna and the SGs i guess

fascinating

[lunar dirge]

and rapu there triggers crown's buff

[tropic summit]

what a chad

the bait is strong with this one

[lunar dirge]

attack team only tho

[tropic summit]

mhm reasonable

[restive heart]

when my weird pvp team works somehow

[lunar dirge]

but

imagine your 2rl cindy losing to this

[lunar dirge]

actually had some replays in our serever

et was curious about it

[tropic summit]

yeah i should watch them with some popcorns

gonna take a look

oh found it, now that's hilarious

[lunar dirge]

how's my last screenshot?

[thorn dock]

I did it dude

[shell atlas]

Who should I run for Rookie Arena?
I wanted to do something with Noah since she's my first Core+1 and I want to honor that a little bit

But I have no Jackal so I can't do RL speedrun

[tropic summit]

do you've a B1 clip SG? e.g. pepper

or rumani

[shell atlas]

I do have pepper and centi

not Rumani

[tropic summit]

well you're in luck then, you can still hit the "speedrun" you mentioned

[shell atlas]

Ah, my quantum cube is lv 3, how much do I need to get to get it to 7, account for like lost sector stuff

[tropic summit]

without quantum at all you hit 2.5, with even just lvl 1 quantum you can hit 2RL

hence just give your quantum to centi and anis, noah can run temperance, cindy can run either vigor or resil/bastion depending on what you got highest

[shell atlas]

It's kinda worrying to rely on pepper b1 on the back

But I guess that if I notice they got all the people that target back I got to use another team

[tropic summit]

your pepper in p5 won't be hit in time to be killed if 2RL

[shell atlas]

Oh yeah

https://tenor.com/view/marcoelprro-gif-27525382

[tropic summit]

i mean even 3RL it's unlikely unless they've multiple snipers to hit p5 pre burst

[jolly pier]

I'm losing rank recently cause I havent updated my teams in like... 6 months. I'm good on power but I guess the comps need update, anyone can build me SP Arena teams with my nikkes? thanks in advance

[tropic summit]

on attack, viceversa, beware for enemy shotguns as they'll hit p5

if you wanna learn more about this:

https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

[shell atlas]

Wait, hold on

[glad meteor]

[shell atlas]

This part specifically confuses me, because my defense team

Like when someone fights my team

[tropic summit]

when attacking, enemy shotguns will shoot p5
when defending, enemy shotguns will shoot p1

[shell atlas]

The shotguns target the P5 slot

[shell atlas]

And this is not based on like me, it's based purely on the team

[tropic summit]

it's based on this, give it a read:

https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

[shell atlas]

Like, the defending team always has P1 Shotguns

[thorn dock]

hopefully I can defend again his teams xD

[glad meteor]

Team 3 was scary, i thought b1 might die

[shell atlas]

I did read it time ago I just don't get that one

I think I get it maybe

[thorn dock]

rumani is low build so she can't handle that's much

[tropic summit]

you sure you read it? because it answers your question

[shell atlas]

But does it mean that I want to run like a shotgun team on Defense

Well, not like full on shotgun just have more SG members

[tropic summit]

adding a SG gives extra feed to possible jackal enemy teams, while also adding the fact they'll need to consider p5 getting shotgun fire at

that can get countered by running a p1 and p5 defender with biscuit, nullying your SGs, or punishing it with a scarlet-jackal

[shell atlas]

I got it

[tropic summit]

unless you know your opponents don't have biscuit, jackal and scarlet, then you could run 5 SG teams

[thorn dock]

and bay with biscuit is pretty good at countering sanis due to the damage sharing and damage reducing

[glad meteor]

That’s interesting indeed

[shell atlas]

[thorn dock]

It's like moran biscuit sanis but slightly faster burst

and you can still take down with nuke :>

[glad meteor]

Cindy op

[shell atlas]

I'm so glad she didn't fade away and when light shatters lost in the dark she decided to deep inside, dreams of life.

[thorn dock]

and this time I will you his trick again himself xD

[tropic summit]

le sacc

[shell atlas]

It's Rosanna Chat!!!

THAT'S THE ONE THAT KILLS THE ATTACKERS CHAT

LOOK

[thorn dock]

and fill > 20% burst when an ally died

[keen vapor]

Rail

I did it

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

I invested Moran

[tropic summit]

oh snap

[lone sequoia]

i thought about his boxes or a good xmica team

[keen vapor]

And now I'm remembering I had a dream about this, some time ago

[tropic summit]

now to put it in reality

[keen vapor]

Boxes was a few days ago

[lone sequoia]

lv+600 already?

[tropic summit]

well it was about time on this one

so, you're gonna retain ch4 easily now? @keen vapor

or is it time to claim the ch3-ch1

[lone sequoia]

time to start some gems wars

[unborn shuttle]

What 3 or atleast 2 teams can i make for special arena? And uh, a team for rookie arena too

[keen vapor]

Stronger than Emi

[keen vapor]

I have to try for C3 just to recover from a bad start on this season

[tropic summit]

it is time, go get em

[tropic summit]

jackal out of synch

can you put her in? then we can take it from there

[loud sonnet]

Just woke up

[keen vapor]

Pog

[unborn shuttle]

i mean, yeah why couldnt i put her in synch

[quasi prism]

My rapi is almost done

I heard some fun stuff in pvp with her

[unborn shuttle]

so?

[tropic summit]

centi naga cind anis liter
poli sbs rh biscuit jackal
crown rapu xmaiden noir alice

for rookie i guess we can roll a cindy nuke

[unborn shuttle]

whats that?

site or whatever

anyways, thanks!

[tropic summit]

rookie:

[unborn shuttle]

im curious, are the dpses all that matters to build?

in arena atleast

[tropic summit]

as for the site it's this one

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11KWYeyvef91A-vfFuqglJJ8-OhR90TcKFVpJ6Ny_5h4/edit?gid=1990278246#gid=1990278246

although you can also use https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[tropic summit]

hmm to be honest your first priority is progress, hence campaign team

investing in units that are good for both pvp and pve is a good starter, then once you've got comfortable campaign team, can invest in pvp to a bigger degree

[unborn shuttle]

i c, im trying to get a full 10/10/10 team with 15 sr dolls but its been tough

so far only rh and cind are 101010 with 15 sr doll

building rapipi atm

[tropic summit]

yeah dolls will take you a long time, as for skills make sure you don't over-invest, some nikke don't need to be 10/10/10 specifically

[unborn shuttle]

since shes apparently better than sbs without alice

[unborn shuttle]

yeah, ik dw i meant as 10/10/10 in skills that matters

thanks for telling that tho

anyways, that should be all, thanks!

[tropic summit]

you're welcome, good luck

[swift mango]

Defending on your bracket. If that got you under cp gapped then you are still screwed. That's why I told you what I did.

[brazen ledge]

So I can use these teams for attack and keep my old ones for defense ?

[swift mango]

[zinc fulcrum]

I keep getting disconnected in SP Arena, is this a new bug?

[brazen ledge]

?

[vapid lake]

nope, been around for more than2 weeks by this point
it started on rapi update

[zinc fulcrum]

ahh okay thanks its so annoying

[vapid lake]

still waiting for the 10 free attacks compensation

[keen vapor]

Moran would

[tropic summit]

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1321849066266689607

[keen vapor]

Next event or maybe on raid time

[swift mango]

I'm out of ideas

[swift mango]

Okay gimme that.

[vapid lake]

for every extra day the bug exists +2 more free attacks

[keen vapor]

28 attacks absolute chaos

[jagged mesa]

quick question, how many units does rocket launcher spread to in pvp

[keen vapor]

2
Emilia does 3
I have no way to know about A2

[glad meteor]

A2 is 3

[jagged mesa]

and sbs is just one right?

[keen vapor]

Yup, so is Cinderella

[jagged mesa]

wait 2 as in.. if it hits the middle target it only hits one of either sides?

or 2 units either direction (meaning all 5)

[keen vapor]

no, I think if middle target it hits 3

[glad meteor]

If emi/a2 hits p3 she hits all 5 since she hits 2 either side

if I’m not mistaken

[brazen ledge]

imma be honest

[glad meteor]

Normal rls hit 1 both side

[jagged mesa]

either side or BOTH sides

[keen vapor]

Never put Cindy in P1/2, or else you fabricate this

[glad meteor]

Both

[brazen ledge]

whats the point of pinging me for this ?

you help me cool, you don't, then shut up and don't talk to me

[jagged mesa]

ok so thankfully i win this fight by the SKIN of my teeth (biscuit dies literally 0.0000000001s after casting burst). shouldnt she be the most protected in this instance since pvp targets from the edges inward randomly?

[glad meteor]

[brazen ledge]

False, max 0.033333… sec before bursting

[glad meteor]

SBS s1 killing biscuit

[keen vapor]

You're always this conflictive?

[brazen ledge]

First time here

[jagged mesa]

so much faster than the other units though?

[vapid lake]

if biscuit no overload gear and no doll then yeah

[brazen ledge]

30 fps : nothing can happen outside of a frame, 1/30 = 0.3333…

[vapid lake]

SBS will kill her very quickly before the invul can kick in

to reduce sbs dmg to 0

[graceful umbra]

i got zero analytical skills so i get suprised when my first squad whose behind 10-20k in combat power wins while the second and third squad get absolutely demolished even though both of them have above 5k combat power over the other squads

[jagged mesa]

how much spread does sbs 6th/2nd hit have?

[brazen ledge]

If you’re here to make fun of ppl who are looking for help, there’s no point of speaking to them, that’s all

[glad meteor]

Pretty much yeah, she’ll be targetted by sbs s1 since lowest defence i assume. And your burst gen looks slower than theirs

[jagged mesa]

ohhh good point

[glad meteor]

I forgot, don’t want to misinform but I think it hit’s left/right

[vapid lake]

SBS hits everyone

[glad meteor]

The s1 trigger 2

[vapid lake]

s1 first hit affect lowest def target then the rest hits everyone

[jagged mesa]

im actually going to try something. i'm going to lower my blanc's gear so that she draws aggro from sbs even if it drops my cp. i think in pvp having cp within 15% means no penalty right?

[vapid lake]

u need to overload biscuit and maybe give her a doll so she doesn't die to sbs

[umbral crown]

[vapid lake]

if u are serious about pvp

[jagged mesa]

my main squad doesnt even have dolls on 4 characters.......

[glad meteor]

This is trigger 2

[jagged mesa]

nice

[vapid lake]

focus campaign team first then

[glad meteor]

i had this idea of using defence cube to target sbs s1 to defenders once. But i don’t think you have the cube yet

[jagged mesa]

im trying, im at chapter 20 with nearly 35% deficit rn 😭

edit: actually that was when i was squad level 140, i just got enough core dust to push my squad to 151. could do 155 if i decide to dump the rest of my credits today (if i get no t9m)

[vapid lake]

solo raid next week chance to get more dolls
hope u can clear all 7 stages

[glad meteor]

And yeah, 15.41% is the breakpoint

Pins have the formula and stat penalty

[tropic summit]

fire RAID

[vapid lake]

rapi will save the day

[jagged mesa]

ill probably be squad level 160 by then, what level do you think i can clear up to?

[tropic summit]

sure hope she can alone cuz i got neither asuka or modernia or alice properly built yet

[vapid lake]

ur kinda screwed
dont forget grave

[tropic summit]

neutral dmg gonna have to carry its weight this time

[jagged mesa]

i dropped my blanc's footgear to t8 and achieved these results at time of winning the fight

[vapid lake]

grave can actually do serious dmg against fire weak

[tropic summit]

even when not OL'ed and 4/4/4?

[jagged mesa]

for some reason the other player's jackal stays alive at 1/0hp for like 4 seconds before the match ended so i snapped that pic

[vapid lake]

if she's that then yeah no dmg

[glad meteor]

Blanc burst gives lowest hp 10s of death immunity

[vapid lake]

i'm curious to see if crown will support alice team or rapi team this raid

[jagged mesa]

what other units should i watch out for that target specific characters based on lowest/highest def/atk/hp?

[vapid lake]

not a lot

[glad meteor]

Sanis s2 2 highest atk units
SSakura s2, highest attack
Rosanna burst, prioritise attacker units

that’s the ones i can think of rn

[vapid lake]

can only think of pepper, blanc, rosanna off the top of my head that have abilities that have specific conditions for targeting

[wild vine]

Anyway to beat this guy? Can invest in some units if u tell me which haa

[jagged mesa]

nice so my biscuit is pretty well protected then

[jagged mesa]

i just need to roll a jackal to replace liter (maybe? depending on how important scarlet burst is)

dang biscuit is really busted in pvp huh, potentially best character maybe? that defender invuln is insane if you just put a defender on either side

[glad meteor]

Yeah, that’s why aoe is pretty good. Like scarlet burst. sanis is good too

[vapid lake]

i believe in pepper treasure R doll ready

[jagged mesa]

any suggestions to replace privaty for my team 3 in sp arena?

or perhaps bay? i have no idea how damage shared is calculated if it's hitting an invuln target

[vapid lake]

maid privaty if her burst level is high enough

[jagged mesa]

all characters uninvested besides campaign

[vapid lake]

the only good option there in your first row

then just keep privaty

or just put highest cp to gap the opponent

[jagged mesa]

okay rrh for double the cp then. i wonder if her projectile is actually worth the mg tradeoff

nice i might actually make it to rank 1 in my sp arena bracket

[vapid lake]

she AOEs pretty hard so she is good at attacking but using her on defense is risky because she feeds jackal

here we are basically praying that you cp gap them so hard that they die before they can burst or the people in your arena bracket don't know how to pvp

if it works, it works

[keen vapor]

Maybe in the next 6 months

[wild hemlock]

Looking for a new SP arena defense team. Have Laplace treasure, everyone from Winter Maiden and above are all full OL

[empty shuttle]

Why rapipi burst gen is so bad when she has boom boom bullets

I thought she would be like grave

[gaunt viper]

SP def squad recommendations please and thank you whenever available

[sinful surge]

I think he's had enough

[glad meteor]

[thorn pagoda]

i don't think anybody has mentioned this yet, but what's the best pvp cube for Red Hood?

i've been using adjutant

[thorn pagoda]

this is how you turn F2P players into P2W overnight

[glad meteor]

Depends if you want to burst faster adjutant or quantum may help if the team fits the breakpoint. Temper, vigor can help with survival

[sinful surge]

The Chip Giveaway

[quick lake]

Dont use rapi in pvp

[thorn pagoda]

i fu­cked up and accidentally put 10 on the wrong cube earlier
need to wait until tomorrow to upgrade the quantum cube

they both have the same icon but slightly different colours

[swift mango]

Probably need to post the "old defense teams" as well if you wanted to get something new.

[gaunt sentinel]

my deff broke

[gaunt sentinel]

nvm

[swift mango]

Then they attack you all over again next hour

[wild hemlock]

I've done a bunch of different teams over a long period of time so kinda wanted a new opinion. I have asked for teams in the past but that was a while ago and I have new units and such now. Should I just link the last team I was using? I've tried like 10+ teams though

[gaunt sentinel]

its because i didnt equip quantum tbh use it for union raid

[swift mango]

What team is it that Quantum make a difference? 🤔

[gaunt sentinel]

the one with red circle meant to use quantum

[swift mango]

At this point, it's hard to defense if your opponent know how to attack (or know how to ask for attack). My defense also hold successfully shorter and shorter after each edit.

[swift mango]

Yeah doesn't change much to be honest. Maybe Jackal would make difference with enough feed. ASS would stay the same speed.

[gaunt sentinel]

honestly my deff works for 2 season reset before today breach

[wild hemlock]

This was the team that seemed to find the most success. 1 person lost to it twice and then never lost to it again. So I suppose something similiar to this but different might work but not sure

[gaunt sentinel]

wait should i swap normal anis with xmaiden

[swift mango]

Some people are just lazy to find answer or not yet invested enough I guess.

[gaunt sentinel]

should i swap my sr anis with xmaiden so its buffing my electric?

[swift mango]

That would make your team 3.5-4 RL

[gaunt sentinel]

thats bad right?

[swift mango]

Yeah, most the case.

[quick lake]

Ur cp is low for someone sync 501+

Invest more in pvp units

[swift mango]

Well, if he invested more into arena units he may get into Sweaty bracket like mine. So the universe balanced it out.

[quick lake]

Is that how it work?

My defence is once again successful, the whale has spent gems on me

[swift mango]

Who knows. But this game may have that kind of seed.

[keen vapor]

[quick lake]

Feels like it

[keen vapor]

Shift Up could never

[swift mango]

The more I play arena the worse luck I became

[gaunt sentinel]

i dont wanna

[muted stag]

This is a win right?

[keen vapor]

Uuuuhhhh

[keen vapor]

Swap them

No wait

[muted stag]

Scar can out burst

[keen vapor]

There's SG on both teams

[quick lake]

T2, might not OHKO. Double buff would be better

[muted stag]

Both t5 defender

[muted stag]

Scar team also need buff tho I think?

[quick lake]

T3, Biscuit P5 will die to SG attacks

[muted stag]

Put centi?

[quick lake]

T2: Scar xanne RH Rumani Jackal
T3: Noah Centi Biscuit SAnis flex
imo

[muted stag]

Noah biscuit redhood SAnis centi?

[muted stag]

Rapu?

[quick lake]

Yep, rapu should be good

[quick lake]

wait uh

[muted stag]

Should I swop out rumani for emillia

[quick lake]

T2 deficit

[muted stag]

Since RH b1 already

[quick lake]

Maybe swap Rapu for some higher CP unit, centi P5 hmmm

[quick lake]

Also can

[muted stag]

Sanis can change?

[quick lake]

Yeah, can change SAnis to Emilia tbh

[muted stag]

17.6% deficit

[quick lake]

Any Noah Biscuit team should win without penalty

[muted stag]

No that’s even lower cp

Can use sbs or Cindy?

[quick lake]

SBS should work

[quick lake]

Yep can try SBS

oh actually Cindy works also

[muted stag]

14.5%

[muted stag]

Is tht ok?

[quick lake]

Should be the same, but Cindy a little better

Swap out SBS for Cindy

[muted stag]

Cindy cp lower

[quick lake]

Hmm, then SBS is fine

[quick lake]

Just use cindy

[muted stag]

4K cp diff only

[quick lake]

Cindy better here

[keen vapor]

I knew it

[muted stag]

Rapu died

[quick lake]

Team 2 died?

[muted stag]

Centi and rapu should swop

[swift mango]

So you don't have your Anis invested at all? You could try invested in her OL and swap her with Noir.

If you confident in your CP you could try, to put Lv1-199 Anis to P2 in Scarlet team.

[muted stag]

Should have swop centi and rapu earlier Welp

[quick lake]

Gah, forgot Rapun was supporter not Defender. My bad

[swift mango]

Rapuless?

[wild hemlock]

No never invested in Anis didn't really consider it for some reason

[muted stag]

Nvm all g

[quick lake]

Ye for like 2 years as well. Only got her recently. barely used her

[swift mango]

Then ur not rapuless

[quick lake]

Yes. no longer rapuless

[swift mango]

1 of the Free 4 chips

[quick lake]

He spent them previously

[swift mango]

Nah you just count it wronged.

[strong hull]

I forgot to send you my box lol

[loud sonnet]

Here we go again

[swift mango]

Man, what is your defense and what is his discord? Let's send him how to counter it to end the man suffering. 🤔

[loud sonnet]

He's a whel so its fine

[swift mango]

I post this when I have nothing to say.

[strong hull]

Not whaling enough

[quick lake]

The whale sucks

[loud sonnet]

Here's my current def btw

[loud sonnet]

Lap was treasured

[quick lake]

Very well crafted 👏👏👏

[swift mango]

Should I say how to beat it? 🤔 Guy probably not lurking here right?

[loud sonnet]

Maybe

[quick lake]

That’s it. Defence cracked tmr

[loud sonnet]

[swift mango]

Okay I deleted

[quick lake]

My whale has been winning standard pvp team, so tried something different and won

Realised he might have just been CP-diff me the whole time. So needa cook higher cp teams

[swift mango]

I tried to changed to exactly your team 1 yesterday I couldnt even def one. 🥲

[round pilot]

Any tips for beating this?

[swift mango]

Emi team 2.

Scar-Jack team 3.

You could also 2RL Cindy team 2.

[round pilot]

Can you make me the team?

[swift mango]

Replace one centi with Anis or sth. 🙄

[umbral crown]

Ez

[umbral crown]

And You were not trusting Ssakura

[quick lake]

[umbral crown]

Now give.me.your RH

[quick lake]

[swift mango]

I will give you 2 star from my RH to get 1 Noah.

[quick lake]

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-handshake-deal-hello-gif-24672226

Life with RH must be ez

[swift mango]

I just used 50 blue mats and 30 purple mats just to get 1 R doll to rank 5.

[covert lintel]

lv10 tempering or quantum lv15?

[swift mango]

[covert lintel]

my current cube

[round pilot]

This work? My rumani still working. Massive CP drop

[swift mango]

Ayy... no

[round pilot]

Hmm, im lost💀

[swift mango]

Their team 3 is only 910k... Your Rumani should work just fine.

[round pilot]

i thought team 3 is use scar jackal?

[swift mango]

Even if you lose 150k

[swift mango]

I mean team 2, ASS team.

Ass team 910k

You could beat it with 850k easily

[quick lake]

Do u have resilience at lv13? or u're pvp focused?

[covert lintel]

resilience lv8, im more invested in pvp

[round pilot]

Yeaterday ASS team lost to his ass team. No idea why

[round pilot]

So my ASS with 2B?

[swift mango]

Their team has more healing.

[round pilot]

Mirror it ?

[swift mango]

GL

I already told you how to win.

[quick lake]

Maybe vigor for more HP Would probably wait out. ~~1 or ~~2 new cubes coming out

[round pilot]

im just confuse which team on which

Just to confirm am I seeing the correct thing with you.

His Team 2 is ASS and Team 3 is Cindy

So I use this team to atk his team 2?

Or getting it wrong?

[swift mango]

Team yeah.

[swift mango]

Need quantum lv7 on

Centi, Rumani, Laplace/Noah though.

Or it would lose

[swift mango]

You could Scar-Jack ASS team as well with this line up. Should be the same.

[round pilot]

My quantum is 10

I got enough slot for 4 of them for Quantum

I remember i my scar jack cant burst first before his noah skill

[swift mango]

Your Jackal need quantum. With Pepper your Scar-Jackal will be 2rl vs either team.

Cindy team needs 3 quantum vs Ass team. Or No quantum vs Cindy team.

[round pilot]

My jackal always with Quantum

Maybe I swap my Scar Jack team I replace Anis with Centi better?

I put my anis on ASS team

Something like this

[swift mango]

Should be fine. Put quantum on centi ofc. Noah, Anis too if you could

Noise shouldn't steal taunt from Noah

[round pilot]

So Noah must have higher charge speed than Noise?

They both have 1 line CS. both also 4.92

[swift mango]

No it's fine.

Same CS is fine

[round pilot]

Do blanc need Quantum? Currently lvl15 Resi. I have 2 extra slot on Quantum

[swift mango]

No

[swift mango]

If you want, put them on Pepper or any RL. Blanc, ASS no.

[round pilot]

Zz, the DC bug. Always happen

[dire belfry]

@quick lake yeah your team suggestions are goated held my ground at diamond 3

[calm gull]

mmm... scrumptious

[round pilot]

Fk yea. finally

[covert lintel]

i don't think hp buff is good except for nikke that have damage increased based on scaling from hp

so currently my vigor is only lv5

[round pilot]

Next road to lvl15 Quantum

[quick lake]

Woohooo!

[swift mango]

My vigor is 7

[quick lake]

The more I think about it, the more quantum is "alright" and not necessarily fantastic. Vigor on defender sounds pretty nice

[swift mango]

Idk how people built their units to survive 2buff Scar-Jack

My Cindy is 10-10-10, 20% DEF, doll level 15 and still getting one shot from 2 buff scar-Jack

What is there to improve?

[jolly pier]

I'm losing rank recently cause I havent updated my teams in like... 6 months. I'm good on power but I guess the comps need update, anyone can build me SP Arena teams with my nikkes? thanks in advance. Sorted by power which shows how invested the units are also

[loud sonnet]

Maybe OL atk lines?

Wait nvm

[swift mango]

That only help her kill Scarlet, not helping with surviving.

[quick lake]

Opponent using Noise?

[coarse lake]

prob not much cindy takes counter dmg

and most ppl's scar isn't max invest

the only scar you should risk facetanking is one that just got revived by xanne

[swift mango]

I only fight max invested ones.

[quick lake]

There are some weird cases where units survives double buffed scar. Probably bug tbh

[swift mango]

Aside from the whale Scarlet that is. That one weak

[swift mango]

You said it yourselves last time that you could build Rapunzel to survive 2 buff Scarlet.

When even Cindy can't

[coarse lake]

yes, I've seen it... from merry and my sp whale (~30 sync higher)

my sp whale survives double buff scar

although they do have noise b1

so there's that too

[quick lake]

Thats why

[swift mango]

30 lv diff

I have noise B1 s3lv7 as well

Merry Rapunzel has the Buff from Nero and he also CP/lv diff others

Idk enemies investment though.

[coarse lake]

I don't remember seeing enemy team in merry's case either

found it

merry had noise b1, enemy scar only had xanne, but it was crit

[swift mango]

This is like the strongest Scarlet slash I ever faced. Nothing could tank it except Bay cover and immunity. His team speed is slow so easily beaten though.

[quick lake]

Pretty sure nothing survives double buffed scar, maybe except cindy and stall teams

[coarse lake]

lemme reverse engineer a bit, xanne meant that scar's crit dmg is prob about 1.5x, the standard

but xanne buff is trash

[swift mango]

Ofc my video is too bias since Crown is counted as 1.5 buff lol

But still losing to other common 2buff Scarlet often if they Crit.

[coarse lake]

so it did about half hp to rapu assuming non-crit

xanne buff is.... approx 1.4-1.5x dmg

blanc is same, but pretty sure merry rapu has a lot of dmg reduction anyway

all of this is still with noise b1 btw

let's give xanne the benefit of the doubt and assume same buffing as blanc (maybe burst 10 xanne, close enough)

[swift mango]

Merry Rapu doesn't go with Noise

[coarse lake]

in that vid it did

[swift mango]

Ay, that screenshot is just 1 buff scarlet

[coarse lake]

noise basically negated xanne buff there

[swift mango]

And his rapu is buffed to the teeth by Nero.

[coarse lake]

oh yeah nero too

[swift mango]

You can't just build rapu to face tank 2 buff Scarlet even with Nero.

[coarse lake]

noise and xanne should more or less cancel each other, if no crit, raw unbuffed scar is.... a bit more than half hp if factoring in nero dmg reduction

so if you apply blanc's dmg taken for a 1 buff scar.... nearly 1 shot

[swift mango]

Yes, so no way anyone could build an unit to face tank 2 buff Scarlet without skill.

It's just impossible

[coarse lake]

and we dunno their scar invest

and that rapu is like max invest

and blanc's value is quite big here too since 1% dmg taken means more than 1% final dmg due to rapu stacking dmg reduction

[quick lake]

RH + Scar Alone depletes to about ~20% HP. Any buffer on top of that is pretty much dead

[swift mango]

My Cindy is almost max invested on tanking already. Just need 2 more DEF line and 7 core.

[coarse lake]

so if you have a max rapu against unknown invest scar that's only blanc buffed.... you might barely live a 1 shot (if no crit)

[hollow summit]

we need iron meta PvP

too much electric in comp

[coarse lake]

I do think merry fights at huge sync diff though, but not sure if it was in that situation

either way you shouldn't be trying to face tank double buff scar

if you try, at the very least make sure you bring a noise that b1s in time

[swift mango]

Yes, because it's just impossible

[coarse lake]

to cancel it out

[swift mango]

Look at my video Noise buffed already.

[coarse lake]

but if you're somehow fighting someone much lower sync than you

eh could try it

my double buff scar couldn't kill sp whale's high invest rapu that had noise b1 without a crit

[swift mango]

He is 317 and I'm 322 😭

[coarse lake]

so effectively that's a 1 buff scar... my scar's weak, borderline min invest

[swift mango]

Not everyone have weak scar like u

[coarse lake]

and scar has high crit rate as well if not using xanne

with a crit, net 1 buff scar will kill anything really

even if you're in a situation where you can live, you're... reverse crit fishing? praying for no crit

and the odds are in your favor, but not by that much

[swift mango]

[quick lake]

Liter + Crown + Scarlet deals about ~160% of attacker HP. With noise buff, dmg is reduced to roughly ~116% of attacker HP, all assuming SR5 dolls

[coarse lake]

mine is quite weak, 0 atk lines, R15, LB2, 7/7/7

[quick lake]

Quik meth

[coarse lake]

a lot of ammo, but that doesn't matter for nuking

sp whale rapu is one of their highest invest units

and with crit I still kill

tbf a team using noise and noah also helps reduce your scar dmg

that's like what, 12% dmg reduction and 10% atk down for scar from the two assuming min invest (lvl 4)

just don't try it, crit will mess you up

if it's a hail mary and somehow everything else doesn't work, sure ig you can try for inconsistent wins

[swift mango]

Noah debuff can't do much vs Scarlet p3-5 though

[coarse lake]

yeah, but those aren't very common to begin with

point is, my scar had almost everything stacked against her

crit still kills

to make scar consistent you really need net 2 buffer

if they got noise, now you better hope you got good enough invest since you're at net 1 buffer

I know xanne rh already fails to kill most standard noise/noah/sanis/biscuit/rapu setups, need blanc there for most, and even then, some fail

bit oversimplifying since not all buffers are created equal

[quick lake]

Noise just removes one buffer functionally. Is whether u can facetank the rest

[coarse lake]

scar either kills or it's inconsistent, there is no situation where net 1 buffer scar consistently fails to kill

[swift mango]

Well, maybe opponent doesn't have a strong enough Cindy.

Maybe we need core 7 cindy to face tank thing.

I really was the first one to showed Rumani+Blanc+Cindy on this chat. But it never really work for me in defense. Only on Attack against some particular some Scarlets.

Just put that team up again on def yesterday and immediately flopped

[coarse lake]

you don't do that on def

well, if you do, adjust it a bit

need your b1 being the facetank unit

cindy and b2 need to get invuln, that's the safer way

b1 being facetank means they can't b3 nuke in time to deny your b1

[swift mango]

And you asked how to beat that team yesterday.

It just doesn't work mostly. The could just keep p2 high HP then one shot it. They could just one shot Cindy.

[coarse lake]

I run a lot of variants of rumani biscuit cindy, some with blanc, some without, all on atk

[swift mango]

Just like Emilia is invincible on ATK but flopped when def.

[coarse lake]

2 main uses: either to deal with enemy cindy (cindy always survives cindy nuke) and win with indom stall + autos, or p1 p2 invuln while b1 has no protection

tbh the second one mainly applies to when they're using scar without jackal

I just bring 1-2 sub dps on to kill scar before they can burst, they revive scar, revived scar does like no dmg, everyone facetanks

if you wanna do a blanc biscuit cindy setup, problem is finding a way to ensure cindy indom ig

otherwise they just noah + sustain dps kill you

[swift mango]

Cindy can't survive double buff Scarlet to even get indom lol.

[coarse lake]

blanc/cindy/centi/biscuit/rumani of some sort, which then brings in feed issues

just fundamentally very clunky

[swift mango]

This one work ofc.

[coarse lake]

expensive too, not a good use of 2/3 of the god b2s

[swift mango]

But also only for attacking.

[coarse lake]

cindy decoy feed and p1 skip causes a lot of problems for cindy def

also cindy almost always higher hp than jackal

[swift mango]

Well, winning Attack is easy. The hard part is defense because it never worked if the opponent is sweaty enough.

Getting gang banged by 3 guys who could all beat the level +40 whale but choose to attack only me instead regardless my rank , regardless if they would loose one attack to my new def is just pain.

[tepid kernel]

Hey sorry to butt in but what’s some good pvp comps I should make with these? For both rookie and special arena, I have more nukes that I just haven’t synced yet too

Nikkes*

[swift mango]

If I get this right, you Bunny Alice has higher CP than SBS who has higher CP than RH? This is wild.

[tepid kernel]

Yea for a while I was just not paying attention to the combat as much as I should’ve and was kinda just upgrading whoever I wanted lol

[swift mango]

Tell me to which unit you have OL on.

[tepid kernel]

But now I’m getting to the point where I want to be more involved and actually be competitive

[swift mango]

_

Come on

[tepid kernel]

I’ve got overload gear on Liter, Cindy, Alice, Modernia, Crown, SAnis

Not complete set of OL on any of them just 1-3 on each of those

[swift mango]

Show me the unsynched SSRs

[swift mango]

First, spend gems to reset level on all of them. And use the returned resource to level up you synchro.

At least the ones above 80

[tepid kernel]

Ok, any that I should add to the synchro?

[quick lake]

Jackal, Noah and Centi into synchro

[tepid kernel]

Ok, thank you

[swift mango]

Anis into synchro as well..m

[tepid kernel]

Ok, I’ve reset the levels of all the ones above 80 and added Jackal, Noah, Centi into the synchro

[swift mango]

Do you have Vigor cube?

[tepid kernel]

Yes

[swift mango]

Add Anis to synchro too

The SR one

[tepid kernel]

Ok added her

Vigor cube is lvl 2 at the moment

These are my cubes currently

[swift mango]

So...

Liter+Blanc+SBS(bastion cube)+Centi+Jackal.

Make sure SBS HP < Jackal. SBS ATK > Blanc, Centi. Should be easy enough looking at your box.

T2:

Noise+Noah+Rapunzel+S.Anis+Maiden

T3:

Crown+Pepper+Anis+Cindy+Noir

[tepid kernel]

Ok I’ll put those together right now

[tepid kernel]

Ok got them together, how about on defense, same set up?

[swift mango]

That's defense

[swift mango]

Replace Maiden with Privaty if your ASS s3 below level 9

[tepid kernel]

Ok

Got defense set up, how should I do attack?