pvp-arena

[umbral crown]

Ez

[umbral crown]

@polar echo you got demoted to C8, go beat pelg

He should not have any attempts left since he used one on me and failed

[keen vapor]

It should be fun having people from your bracket

[umbral crown]

Its my first time even tho the boi i tagged i do not really talk with him

[keen vapor]

@quby where are you

Tbh Challenger is too full at the moment

[umbral crown]

Its fine when people talk daily but in my case does not work

As always, me vs the world

[keen vapor]

@xp accept my friend request

@fotzee ..... Your defense suck

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Apesta

.... Oh, the English word will be stinks

Squidward stinks

[fathom rock]

How many sg makes jackal jacked, just 1?

[keen vapor]

2 better tbh

More consistent

[bleak shale]

Depends on the rest of ur team but she's already clip rl tier

[fathom rock]

Would I 2rl?

[bleak shale]

Plug into calc and see how many they shoot /10 * 3.55 and add that to ur 2rl gen

Oh wait blanc won't be linked

So it's just sanis and 2 rl

Doesn't ur blanc just take it raw and die?

[keen vapor]

I'd never do Blanc P1 without biscuit

[fathom rock]

Wait true

I'll put sbs p1 instead

[keen vapor]

You sure she's linked right?

Neko

[fathom rock]

Sbs is linked

Sbs and la+ are linked

La+ has least hp so I assume she gets indom?

[keen vapor]

Then switch positions

[fathom rock]

I just wanna 2rl one-shot my enemy anyway
Swap la+ p1 ?

[keen vapor]

But

I rather Noah this

[fathom rock]

How do we tell him.....

Doesn't this lose anyway tho

[keen vapor]

Just noise that lah

[fathom rock]

I'm in deficit

This is safer ig

Can swap noah to crown so that I have something for T2

?

I think should noah p1 right?

[keen vapor]

Overload her overload everyone

[fathom rock]

GEAR FODDER ISN'T JUST UNLIMITED

[keen vapor]

Don't waste in leveling overload gear : why snapped:

[fathom rock]

I didn't lvl up much of that

@keen vapor if I didn't remember it would've been too late

[keen vapor]

I just, take the first numbers and rest 15.4%

[fathom rock]

I'll go get 1 ol on noah real quick

[quick lake]

Why burst with SBS? probably takes SBS too long to kill without ele advantage

[fathom rock]

Because I suffer too big of a penalty swapping her with maid priv, not to mention emilia will steal link

If only there was a good nuker that's good with jackal and abuses sg super well for more burst regen

[quick lake]

Looks tough to kill with SBS + opponent blanc heal + possible SAnis indom

Maybe Emilia burst would be better if u could 1 shot

[fathom rock]

Enemy indom sanis doesn't sound like fun to deal with when all I'll have is a 1hp emilia

[quick lake]

Why deficit so beeg. Time to invest more in pvp units

[fathom rock]

If rock drops I'll ol noah chest

2cs noah

[quick lake]

2 more to go

[fathom rock]

3rd ol
My pvp units are cursed with 4x hitrate welp

Do i

[quick lake]

Not that impt imo. Biscuit OLs kinda useless

Save rocks

[keen vapor]

I did

Noah still requires fixing

[fathom rock]

Rh targets p5???????

[quick lake]

SR in general attacking under targetting bug, yes

[fathom rock]

WHY DOES THIS GAME HAVE SO MANY BUGS

[quick lake]

if you go campaign/shooting range shoot then exit, SR units will attack P5 iirc

[swift mango]

Well, I was doing many Arena one after another with SR targeting P5 another day. Then AgentEon said, SR always targeting P5 when attacking. I guess that's the case.

So the PvE bug only for opponent SR to lock on to P1. I guess

[quick lake]

Hmm buggy arena as usual

[swift mango]

I often try to get R16+ total OL lines for usual Arena units like Biscuits. But I guess 1 r11 line is fine

[fathom rock]

I'll probably end up rerolling for cp to push cucumber

[swift mango]

Eh you use Biscuit in Tower or sth?

[fathom rock]

THIS IS NOAH

[quick lake]

R16?

[fathom rock]

He prob means lines with a total value of phase 16

[swift mango]

What was the result of T2 fight? Did you win or not? Win, right?

Nvm Noah in 2 arena team...

[fathom rock]

I lost bc rh kept targetting centi and blanc as a result gave centi indom
Ditched sbs after I was told better not to use her looking back I should've used her

[unkempt kestrel]

Are we able to choose jackel for the SSR selector? Am I finally gonna not be jackeless

[swift mango]

Won't RH targeting Centi in this case?

[fathom rock]

Typo mb

And Cindy solo my entire squad

[unkempt kestrel]

Then get noah and scarlet using regular recruit

[fathom rock]

Yes

[fathom rock]

0.1% but yes sure you have higher chance

[unkempt kestrel]

Yehh

Nice finally I can have a real PVP soon hopefully

[swift mango]

Yep

[swift mango]

I wonder I should do 150 gem pulls now

[fathom rock]

Nah 0.5% is still 0.5%

[swift mango]

0.5% to be new

Also, Jackal in there.

🤔

And dupes will improve CP.

Hmm.

Nvm, don't look at my comment and say I told you to dew it.

[fathom rock]

0.1% for specific pilgrim, still total 0.5% for a pilgrim
Nothing changes and 15k for an alice dupe isn't the best deal especially when you gonna get lots of these overtime for free.

[umbral crown]

• and stats*

[kindred tinsel]

i checked pvp just now n got double attacked out of dia

[cedar orbit]

it's your new home

[kindred tinsel]

theyll pay for this

[swift mango]

Good luck to start a day with, as always.

[keen vapor]

So easy to roll

[swift mango]

Yeah. 150 250 200 in the last 3 days just to get barely passable 4*-3* dispatches. Wonder how today will go.

[keen vapor]

I got 20 doll fragments

[swift mango]

I had to get 20 doll frag yesterday after 200 gems.

And 2 blue mats the other day

This luck is bs

[cosmic gulch]

this is the units i dont have. i needed a team comp for SP Arena, thanks in advance

[keen vapor]

I can suggest this but chances are some of these units aren't as invested and you focused others instead

This is why we request horizontal screenshot of actual box

[cosmic gulch]

i can build them starting now

[keen vapor]

And even have enough for Rapi 😱

[cosmic gulch]

nahhh, i dont have that much

[keen vapor]

I wish me

[keen vapor]

Oh

[eager mountain]

Yeah knowing cp helps, but a lot of the times spending too much time figuring out who they don’t have, for most cases… not for this case

Most units u use exclusively in pvp doesn’t require much skill investment, maybe outside of Emilia and noise etc, just that it’s good to have cs for batteries

[keen vapor]

I have Noise at 5s Emilia 7s

[eager mountain]

💀I needed lv10 s1 cuz I got no innate charge speed lines, don’t wanna toss thousands of rocks on her

[keen vapor]

I know the pain

[eager mountain]

💀and she had 4 atk lines somehow and I ain’t removing those lines for the sake of better nuke, so getting good cs for 21 is extra expensive

[keen vapor]

Understandable

[eager mountain]

💀it’s def not a bad thing, 4 atk lines are really good, but that’s still not enough to one shot everything with 2 buffs (no cp diff)

[thorn pagoda]

going to test this formation now. is this correct?

only need to OL Nero

[keen vapor]

Huh

Rosy, is that last team 3 RL?

[eager mountain]

💀 s10 moran

that 3rd team prob just throw team cuz no one else to use ig

[thorn pagoda]

i'll switch back to the old team which #2 struggles to beat if this one is too easy

[eager mountain]

props for grouping 3 screenshots in 1 pic tho, rare human quality there

[cedar orbit]

running Noah and Moran in the same team feels kinda redundant

[thorn pagoda]

the old team

there is quite a difference in cp though

old one might work better right now

[eager mountain]

depends if top ranked can cp diff u, after all, both ur teams with lowest cp still has similar cp

[cedar orbit]

wait, you are sync lvl 334, how do you not have units?

[eager mountain]

prob didnt wishlist any pvp units

[thorn pagoda]

don't have Jackal, Noise or Scarlet

[keen vapor]

Whale

[thorn pagoda]

i can comfortably stay 3rd though

[eager mountain]

thats enough unless u wanna kick their ass so bad, ull eventually have other pvp metas and strive even better

[thorn pagoda]

i used to beat #1 at the end of the day so he'd waste 100 gems every 2 days since he spends gems and he's a huge whale

but now he's too OP

[eager mountain]

thats like every #1 in sp arena...

whales, cp diffs, will strike back within a min, and with gems

[thorn pagoda]

imo it's a Chinese thing

managed to beat #1 yesterday. it was a close one

[eager mountain]

chinese player in global server? sounds rare, oh he really is

[covert lintel]

nah, whale always strike back the next day since they are confident no one can breach his defense

[eager mountain]

not my whales, f em

[thorn pagoda]

#1 always levels up 4-8 times every time someone beats him so now he's level 338

[eager mountain]

wait. u said hes whale but hes only lv4 higher

[thorn pagoda]

last week he was 12 levels ahead of me

[cedar orbit]

We don't have anyone gemming in my bracket, we are playing for the greater good

[thorn pagoda]

every time you see a user with letters like this, it's a paid chinese reroll account

[eager mountain]

yes, but those account will usually suffer in arena if not brought early enough

[brittle hill]

Just for 2700 gems, logic doesn't logic

He's losing more by buying resources

[covert lintel]

u plan to teaming up to bully other high rank?

[brittle hill]

From cash shop

[thorn pagoda]

Chinese players pick global intentionally since it's easier

less whales

[eager mountain]

yeah jp top 200 is like other server top 30 in raid, dont have a chance hitting top200 there cuz of that, perm lower SR income and maybe even pvp

[cedar orbit]

Dude using 2 attempts on me right after reset was finally punished, now for the past 2 days I have been sitting on 1st while there was a bloodboth between 3, 6 and 9, another bloodbath between 2, 4 and 5.

[swift mango]

What's so weird about that? I will also hit 334 in a month without Jackal, Noah and Rapu if not for the selector.

[swift mango]

About 5, just missing 2rl

[cedar orbit]

half of dude's pvp team are pve units

[thorn pagoda]

worth it

[swift mango]

Then it's just investment issue. I have seen people box in the 400s without Arena units invested.

At all

[cedar orbit]

I can't compete in character upgrade ranking

[eager mountain]

most of my top10s sp arena ppl doesnt even have 3% SR banner, and doesnt go far in hard campaign, so they invest heavily for pvp for the most parts, lv 481+

3% banner is free even in jp if their sr team is 10% as invested as pvp teams

[swift mango]

Nah they probably just auto and no control at all. Rather than investment

[eager mountain]

could be yeah

[cedar orbit]

my Chinese player is so invested that he clears hard mode campaign with 41.6% deficit

[eager mountain]

41.6% behemoth?

[thorn pagoda]

dead server maybe

[cedar orbit]

we are currently pushing chapter 30-31, so Crystal Chamber

[eager mountain]

there it goes the MC wall, its bs

[covert lintel]

i'm jealous to dead server

i've been competing that board rank until now

[thorn pagoda]

previous username was "卐卐卐" but someone reported me when i kept beating them in pvp so that's why i got so invested in pvp

they were jealous

[umbral crown]

Which one

[eager mountain]

my server is half dead, just that theres 1 mf who tried so hard to get into the board so bad that he would put every sr and r missilis in syncho to kick my ass

[umbral crown]

Go for it

Also skills

[covert lintel]

i can beat them recently in tower and campaign but they already got the count

[thorn pagoda]

ty

[eager mountain]

still waiting for rapi getting in normal banner before spending tickets, last opportunity for that mf to snipe

[thorn pagoda]

at least they eventually run out of nikkes to put in the syncho device

[eager mountain]

after i used most of my saved missilis copies, he realized he cant beat me on missilis tower, so he switch his synchos to tetra now, makes the job easier for me

i still have other copies but i fear that if they are viable with treasure

they might have too much atk and potentially steal atk buffs

all the pain learn from liter or DKW with crown buff stealing alice and sbs buff

[keen vapor]

Same

[swift mango]

How do you know they cleared with 41.6 deficit?

[cedar orbit]

from clear info

[kindred tinsel]

real i manage to snag this one since server ded but there becoming active again

[swift mango]

That's not what a whale is

Unless you are also whaling

[thorn pagoda]

kind of. he has 38 costumes and i have 11 (event pass costumes)

everybody else in the bracket is on average lv 260-300 and 4 of us are 334

i've been buying the 30 day crate that gives you a choice of items. i picked 10 core dust a day

the #1 whale will buy core dust everyday and save it until one of us beats him, then he levels up 10-20 all at once

[swift mango]

10 core dust a day? You mean 10 boxes a day? Right?

[swift mango]

Anyway, which event did you start?

[thorn pagoda]

March 2024

[swift mango]

Do you remember which event?

[thorn pagoda]

oh. re zero

[swift mango]

Oh. Then average level for your bracket should be around 300 alright without whaling for level.

Or lacking behind

[thorn pagoda]

the highest whale is level 443 but he doesn't login much due to christmas

chinese ofc

[swift mango]

Is it really re:zero or DKW or Elegg?

[thorn pagoda]

it is rezero

[swift mango]

Ur a leveling whale it is.

[thorn pagoda]

i remember the day i created my account 26th March

[swift mango]

Yeah, early March Elegg. Mid March DKW. End march Re:Zero

[thorn pagoda]

missed nier automata event

i would have created an account before nier automata event but didn't want to get caught up in the whaling and the gacha element of casino gaming

[swift mango]

I remember I downloaded this game along with many games 2+ years ago to try out. Then I stopped at Arknight and deleted the rest. And missed out on Makima banner.

I downloaded this game again in March, also along many other games, because I saw Makima Collab. But ofc too late. But keep playing because I found Elegg funny.

[thorn pagoda]

damn. if you took a break you would have fell behind in the pvp bracket?

this is what i mean by whale btw

i've only bought 2 costumes in total

and never used the costume gacha

[swift mango]

I never even created an account so no

[thorn pagoda]

ah. that's lucky

[covert lintel]

only costume not whale, just a ho*** dude

[swift mango]

Look for @kindred tinsel if you want someone to share that experience

[thorn pagoda]

both of these

[swift mango]

Average active player for his bracket time would be barely hitting 301 now. So he is a level whale.

[thorn pagoda]

yeah core dust

but only core dust
although tbh levels don't matter that much for pvp in reality

someone 20 levels lower could destroy a high rank if they have the right formation

[swift mango]

Try to hit the level 450 in your bracket then say this again

[thorn pagoda]

i've noticed the higher you level up, the more battle data you use. eventually i'll run out of the blue stuff at this rate

especially past 300

[swift mango]

U will

Credit too

[thorn pagoda]

there's no point contending with a chinese whale

[swift mango]

That's when true whale start buying Credit and Exp

[thorn pagoda]

he will always spend more

not worth it honestly

besides, there is no pride or sense of accomplishment in paying to win. you only feel good temporarily once you get to the top

[raven plover]

4 pics

or you can do horizontal view if youre on mobile

[swift mango]

Good to know that you only need to spend 20$ a month to have a whale level in this game though.

[thorn pagoda]

if my username wasn't reported, i wouldn't have became a whale lol

[swift mango]

Since 20$ is just common subscription in MMO back then lol

[thorn pagoda]

still a lot of money to waste on virtual pixels. there's no mistaking that

i call it mental illness. that's what it is

[red halo]

I need help on building sp arena team. Unfortunately im on ipad so this is the most horizontal pic that i could take

[swift mango]

I used to spent that among each month in Rise of Kingdom and wasn't even enough to be called low spender over there.

Just barely not F2P but don't know which to be called. Yeah Lowest spender. 😂

[thorn pagoda]

i didn't mention the £700+ in total from buying core dust every week/month

[swift mango]

Oh Ic. 👍

Now that's more like it.

[glacial palm]

@keen vapor update on the war effort, its working

[tropic summit]

no RH

[red halo]

Yeppers no rh no marian

[tropic summit]

and i also don't see s.anis

well, not the end of the world

[red halo]

I started when rouge event is halfway done

I need a team to beat this guy on the next reset

The cp deficit is definitely high. That guy is a whale

My only problem is my t9m rng bruh

[vapid coral]

Someone please help me make teams for rookie and ranked PvP I’m so bad at team building and especially Pvp

[tropic summit]

rumani rapu cind anis tia 3RL
scar blanc liter xmaiden jackal (3RL as long as quantum lvl 3 on xmaiden and jackal)
noah noise alice biscuit centi 3RL

cubes:

quantum on rumani, anis, centi, jackal
vigor on rumani, cind, blanc
temperance on noah (on noise aswell, unless vigor is higher)
rest put your best cube

[tropic summit]

your scarlet team can delete t3 or t2, check CP against them
the remaining team we can stack a cindy 2RL or 3RL nuke and kill them

[red halo]

I don’t have temperance yet

[tropic summit]

that's fine, give noah any leftover vigor else give her any high lvl cube

show us your 3 teams CP afterward so we can see if we need to tune them to opponent or can run as is

[tropic summit]

for reference, your 3 teams on the left and their 2 teams on right

[tropic summit]

reset isabel btw

[vapid coral]

Lol I forgot

She used to be in my synchro

[red halo]

T9m hell

[tropic summit]

eh, let's see how far we can push numbers maybe on scarlet team

[red halo]

Sure. Ill try to OL xmaiden boots

[tropic summit]

try this team and see how much CP it gives you

[nocturne arrow]

any suggestion on how defeating those 2?
do i need a whole new team for it?

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor they need you in the kitchen

[red halo]

222,174

Coz 4 out of 5 got OL gear ☠️

[tropic summit]

well that's probably good enough, 13% CP deficit

you're gonna have to believe in your scarlet

as for the remaining team, let's see how far we can push cindy

[red halo]

From cindy to noir got at least 1 OL

[red halo]

Cindy to liter got all OL

[tropic summit]

this is gonna be your 2nd team

check Cp against their T3

the one with rouge

[keen vapor]

I can rest with my 4%

[red halo]

201.529

[tropic summit]

holy moly, ez pz

aight, you're good to go, if you feel like it you can record the match, in case something funny happens.

scarlet against their modernia team
cind against their xmaiden team

[red halo]

Thanks imma try now. Ill update after

[tropic summit]

should be a win, unless scarlet is not as invested as it seems, but i doubt that

[red halo]

T3

But i just swap T3 to fight against T1 and ez win.

[tropic summit]

@red halo

[red halo]

Pepega moment

[tropic summit]

oh well

but yeah you can hold yourself against that whale on these CP terms for now

don't expect def to hold though, as you can see from your def teams they can gap you sadly

[red halo]

Which nikke you recommend for OL asap?

[tropic summit]

i'd say these 2 get them at least to OL lvl 0

jackal
biscuit

as they'll be used in most of your team variations

having them boosting your CP is a good bonus

[red halo]

No need to respec right just for cp padding?

[tropic summit]

hmm if you do get doll SR lvl 5 and skills to the recommended that's good enough, you don't need to min/max OL lines

if you do roll a CS% it's a good plus

[keen vapor]

Tell efficient way to do SR 5 doll

[red halo]

Pain

[tropic summit]

aye, pvp investiment does cost a bit

[thorn pagoda]

2025 new years' resolution
to stop wasting money on nikke

[red halo]

Even my main story pushing team doesn’t have sr 5 dolls 💀

[tropic summit]

@red halo

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/collection-dolls/

[red halo]

Only dps got it

[tropic summit]

yeah that's not a bad idea, campaign team is priority n1

[red halo]

Yea. Ive lvl up blue to 15 first before swap to purple

The exp is pain tho

And blue rl dolls

[tropic summit]

mhm, it's gonna take a while

but you don't need to be in a hurry, just focus on keeping ch3-ch6, the fact you were able to hit ch1 means you're doing well enough as is

beating a whale should generally not happen

[red halo]

Just wait until they awake and attack me back. Ill tumble down to 5 if lucky☠️

Nah its fine. Ill just pocket the 3k gems tyvm

[orchid birch]

@tropic summitwake up

is sp time

[swift mango]

You need new team for it sure. Biscuit is SBS slayer.

[swift mango]

You could beat the 1512 point with

Noise+Jackal+Centi+Anis+Cindy (equip Quantum cube on Jackal, Centi and Anis).

The lower one though, is 50/50 with 2RL Cindy team. You could try though but I won't be sure about it.

It's Defending on how strong your Cindy is

[warm acorn]

This team is so strong but I really want to use Cindy. I got my tier 8 chest piece on her. Can I trade off anyone for her?

is graves a defender? if so i can just put the piece on her, ill just have to take the doll loss.

[swift mango]

I think you would still be able to win with you current team.

Move Jackal to p5 and maybe Noir to p2 for that end.

[swift mango]

Jackal is a defender

[warm acorn]

oh i crushed this fight

[warm acorn]

thanks ill try

[swift mango]

Is your Noir and scarlet your units with highest ATK?

[nocturne arrow]

So i need to build anis then

[swift mango]

Basically, put your 2 highest ATK units to p1-2 OR P1-4. Jackal P5.

[nocturne arrow]

Funnily enough, is it 50/50 sometimes i win sometimes i lose

[swift mango]

You mean your SBS vs The 2nd one? Yeah, since they doesn't have taunt defender you could win if you hit the right unit and crit at right time.

The first one with Noah+Biscuit basically invalid your SBS dmg though.

[nocturne arrow]

Yeah that.
I also try mirror match for it

[warm acorn]

belive it or not jackal and scarlet, but noir is close and zero stars neither have a commander doll.

scarlet has a commander doll to be fair

[swift mango]

The 2 highest ATK units beside Jackal.

[warm acorn]

then yes

This is my team 2

[swift mango]

CP too low. And move Cindy to p5.

[swift mango]

Fix your defense team too. It's what other people see when they attack you.

A 19k defense wouldn't work at all.

[warm acorn]

oh god

[swift mango]

Rookie defense, you could go

Liter+Scarlet+Crown+Rumani+Jackal.

[warm acorn]

3 B1s?

[swift mango]

Yeah.

You could move Scarlet to p3 if you worry she would take too much dmg.

[ocean cargo]

How do you beat blanc+scarlet teams?

[swift mango]

Noah and healing/biscuit.

Just wipe faster than they could burst.

Mirror but 0.1-0.3RL slower.

Bay should also work to catch the nuke but hard to make happened.

[keen vapor]

Mirror with no quantum cube

[swift mango]

Idk, you may have to change units defending on the case.

It's hard to make exactly the RL speed of Jackal+Scarlet team. First you need calculate the feed, then you need to record to look at the charge speed.

It would be better just Nuke them with faster team or Noah stall them.

[quick lake]

Having alot of fun with this team recently Might use it for my CA team (ignore dumb opponent cindy P1)

[swift mango]

Also, build Laplace treasure+Rossana. This is an easy win but need investment.

[swift mango]

You don't need scarlet even in this fight.

[quick lake]

I know, just meme-ing

Mari + Rosanna can actually clear most DPS w/o sacc

Was thinking some meme 3RL Mari/Ros/Quiry

[brittle hill]

I see, what kills Scarlet isn't just the SR15 doll and indom effect running out. It's her max ammo lines

need more than 47 ammo

[keen vapor]

I can't get max ammo

[quick lake]

Anmo should just help dps. Reloading scarlet should be fine just dps loss

[graceful grotto]

noah + noise + screen wipers help me

my rookie counter to scarjack + blanc was

Noah + Noise + Cinderella + Emilia + Jackal

[quick lake]

This is so weird. Why does it seem like I have deficit when im above the 15.4% cut off

My Rosanna crit deals less dmg that normal atk

What the buggy arena is this

[loud sonnet]

Is not because RH is iron and rosanna is electric so she deals -10% of dmg against RH?

[grim nymph]

It's been a few days and I wanted to say thank you to everyone and especially @tropic summit for helping me make a team that works. I've never been this high in my bracket before and able to defend myself before.

[minor hazel]

isn't jackal also splitting the damage since RH is probably one of the two highest attackers?

[quick lake]

To my knowledge I dont think there's decreased dmg

[quick lake]

My Rosanna would have broke jackal link by then. Still doesnt explain why crit dmg less than normal dmg, which is usually a sign of deficit/penalty iirc

[minor hazel]

emilia also has higher defense than RH, idk if that's a possibility

oh i'm reading it wrong, nvm

[quick lake]

Hmm possible I guess? Might be some def OLs + SR15 doll on RH perhaps

[swift mango]

It's element dmg bonus from hitting Emi

[quick lake]

Okay, blood is right. Im just stupid Apologies for being a newb

[minor hazel]

yeah that would make more sense, +10% since she's water, and -10% for RH

[swift mango]

401+ newbie 🤔

[quick lake]

[loud sonnet]

[kindred tinsel]

[keen vapor]

@swift mango

[raven plover]

[keen vapor]

she loves me

[harsh echo]

lets see how long i stay at chall4

[swift mango]

How many pulls total?

Anyway, gratz

[keen vapor]

The number is a cancellation of a bad streak after 100 for base Guillotine and no other SSR :deadge:

I could say a low number

Or over that 100 :deadge:

Time to hoard again

[swift mango]

Lucky u!

[keen vapor]

I'm not brick

[strong hull]

Youre so done

[vapid lake]

[keen vapor]

you guys so mean

[strong hull]

Btw congratulations

That a nice mlb mica

[swift mango]

He used less than 100 pulls for that. He should be fine.

[swift mango]

Eva Collab 2 coming in February. So keep saving.

[keen vapor]

[strong hull]

Ig they wont give us new characters tho

Maybe free skin asuka

[swift mango]

2 new characters to pull. Asuka2 and Rei.A2

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dgvoc1itMhZU&ved=2ahUKEwjl6Ze_zL-KAxVBrlYBHcIXG3QQwqsBegQIGxAF&usg=AOvVaw11wH29mCH5TARJUWyUM1H7

[strong hull]

Maybe its just a skin

[swift mango]

Plus SR Sakura

[swift mango]

It written right there, new SSR. You could see they have different name.

I don't know I should be glad or sad that there won't be Meme about Collab units getting Alt before Rapi

[keen vapor]

#1057587834690740275

[brittle hill]

Emelia 2

[swift mango]

Chainsaw Man movie was scheduled for release in 2025.

And it was always one of the collaboration options.

Maybe I have a chance at Makima2 and best girl Reze to boots. Then my Nikke game would be completed.

[keen vapor]

Kobeni SR

I like Kobeni she's very relatable

[quick lake]

I want my Emilia rerun

[keen vapor]

IKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

SOME DAY

[swift mango]

Likely, if they do the collab, she will be there.

In a nutshell, I think they did saved this Collab for later. Because if they wanted to do absolutely no continuation. Reze should be the 3rd unit of the CSM collab, not Himeno.

[keen vapor]

Second part of collabs takes my hopes for SNO further into the future now 8th anniversary year

At least we're filtering options in the process

Metal Gear and Sinon soon

[swift mango]

4 collabs a year

[keen vapor]

Nah, F2P don't have the resources for it

[quick lake]

[swift mango]

Just don't pull in normal banner

[keen vapor]

Tell that to the playerbase

[primal charm]

50roll per 1 char i dont think f2p is impossible to obtain all

[swift mango]

Those who say they would skip Collab can skip those and save the pulls for normal banner.

It's a win win except for the whines.

They keep complaining about Collab and say they won't pull in Collab. Then just doing so. Collab give more pull than normal event. Take those to pull for Pligrim.

[swift mango]

Well, it's very defend on personal luck on this problem.

I did 100+ pulls and 200 gold mileage for 1 XMaiden + 2 non Pligrim dupes, for example.

[quick lake]

Missing collab units? Asuka and Emilia non-havers in shambles

[swift mango]

F this seriously. I'm gonna stop pulling until collab

Okay 7000 gem for Jackal but that's it.

[lunar dirge]

tell me you've just done incorrect life choices via hoarding without telling me so:

[keen vapor]

[grizzled bone]

[keen vapor]

What's so weird about it

[lunar dirge]

you could MLB xlud

But you went with mica

why

[keen vapor]

10% damage multiplier is just one unit to get powercreeped (not to mention my 30 FPS)

[keen vapor]

And I do PVP

[quick lake]

The only relevant team I see Mica being used is in ScarJack. Means RH kicked out

[lunar dirge]

HOLY F, THAT MLB IS GONNA BE SO DEFINING FOR YOUR PVP(not)

[keen vapor]

And I'd like Mica title

[lunar dirge]

Or my sg nuke team ig

[keen vapor]

And I've always waited for her burst to be in my lobby

[lunar dirge]

gratz

You improvedica buff by 3%

[keen vapor]

Mica has more limit breaks than Red Hood

[lunar dirge]

I totally hope it won't hit you hard in the future

[grizzled bone]

just surprised you actually went through with it

[swift mango]

Should be 6%>

[keen vapor]

:pepeh: what's so surprising after one year patience

[swift mango]

6% of 40% though, so like 2.4%

[lunar dirge]

I mistyped, I learned her will improve her nuke capacity by 3% since it her casters attack(supporters have less base atk*% + include atk ol's)

[lunar dirge]

Also this

[swift mango]

It still improve her buff by 6%, just her buff is only 40%.

[lunar dirge]

40% of her caster attack's buff

[quick lake]

And u need to lv10 both s2 and s3

[swift mango]

Yep

[quick lake]

Expensive expensive

[lunar dirge]

She's used cuz she has decent burst gen

Only

[keen vapor]

Would

[grizzled bone]

hope it pays off for you in CA

[lunar dirge]

Tell me about questionable life choices

[lunar dirge]

No wonder you're THAT washed in solo raid

[swift mango]

And buff. Or else everyone would use Pepper and Zwei

Instead

[keen vapor]

I TOLD YOU 3 REASONS WHY I WANTED IT

[keen vapor]

Pepper feed/buff is worse than Mica :pepeh:

[oak gale]

yall any idea what 3 teams i could use for the pvp 3v3 arena?
the current one im using

[lunar dirge]

And all of them are so trash I'd better be off not to hear that and just assume to pull for waifu

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[swift mango]

He did less than 100 pulls for 3 dupes. He should be fine.

[lunar dirge]

no 10 pull? #gacha-rolls message

[swift mango]

AlexAI and the last pull of his life.

I'm thinking of building Zwei instead of Pepper to use in S.Anis team.

[brittle hill]

merry christmas and hope your family is well 😠

[swift mango]

Zwei is electric and she buff Crit rate as off burst beside Moran

She looks better than Pepper to me.

[lunar dirge]

Gl dealing with overfeed against jackal

[swift mango]

For that team

[lunar dirge]

Double sg

[swift mango]

Pepper and ASS, Moran are already dead enough vs Jackal. This just cherry on top.

[lunar dirge]

I mean, the only see for pepper is to be a scarlet buffer with decent enough burst gen

[swift mango]

Can't make it deader than dead

[lunar dirge]

Like, scar emi Mari centi jackal is basically guaranteed 2,5rl

And will be 2 rl against 30 shots(any 2 ar's/1 smg/sg/mg)

[swift mango]

And Moran+ASS already fit the bill

[lunar dirge]

in fact, if I do scar Mari link, it's guaranteed 2 rl from splash+ 1 ar

[lunar dirge]

and it barely costs anything

[quiet quest]

Starting to take pvp seriously, what are the best teams i can build with my available units?(I want a goal to start focusing towards).

Not pictured, mast and dolla because attached image limit

Also asking here because the guides on nikke gg and prydwen seem out of date in terms of team comps

[brittle hill]

Centi, rumani, jackal, bay, biscuit needs to be on the synchro machine. Moran

Noise

So sad seeing them lv 1

[quiet quest]

I recently cleaned out my synchro device trying to reorganize it, the order i had my units in bugged me lol

[swift mango]

You don't have enough units for 3 meta teams. But I will just build 3 good team for you first.

RL is to account for your burst speed. The lower the faster. 3RL is the average fast speed.

T1:
Scarlet+Noir+Pepper+Grave+Jackal (2.5rl naturally) (Noir Can be p4 if you don't want more feed and just don't have her to be hit thus deal more dmg to Scarlet)

Scarlet+Grave+Pepper+XMaiden+ Jackal (2.5rl with feed) (put the higher attack between pepper and Grave to p2 to get more feed for jackal or not to deal less dmg to Scarlet)

Jackal with enough feed can get you to 2rl even. So basically a fast and strong wipe. You could use Noise instead of Pepper in this case to improve survival but you will want more feed to get to 2.5rl. And Noise having higher ATK than Grave to put at P1.

T2:

Blanc+B.Soda+Rapunzel+Maxwell+Centi (3rl)

This team is about B.Soda wipe with Buff from Maxwell and Blanc. Rapunzel is used to Revive Blanc if got killed. B.Soda indom can deal a good chunk of dmg after bursting as well.

T3:

Rumani+Crown+Biscuit+Cindy+Anis (3rl)

This team is using Biscuit to keep Rumani and Crown survive to prevent wipe at faster speed. It defend on Cindy Tankiness to survive a wipe as well. Then burst with Cindy tk finish them.

[quiet quest]

Ah sweet thank you.

These work for defense as well?

[fathom rock]

Those are defense only

Attack depends on enemy

[quiet quest]

Ah

[fathom rock]

@swift mango @grizzled bone help me out

His T3 if wondering

[swift mango]

For attacking

Scarlet+Blanc/Crown+Liter+Noir/Xmaiden+Jackal

Centi+Rumani+Anis+Cindy+Noir/XMaiden

Laplace+ treasure is a strong replacement for XMaiden and Noir but she need Lv15 SR doll.

[quiet quest]

Ah ty, i am trying to work on getting laplaces treasure just gotta get 2 more spare bodies

[swift mango]

His team 3 is certainly easier to beat

[fathom rock]

Deficit

[swift mango]

You are already deficit vs team 2

[fathom rock]

But it's a campaign team should be able to easily biscuit it?

[swift mango]

Yeah

[fathom rock]

More worried on that blanc team, you suggesting I fight T3 instead?

I can try to get more cp by using la+ over emilia

[swift mango]

You should win.

[fathom rock]

Which one?
Blanc comp?

[swift mango]

Yeah. But how much is cp if Laplace over Emi?

[fathom rock]

10k cp diff

Not enough for lower deficit vs T3

[swift mango]

Your current team should win. I feel it has high chance.

You didn't even need RH tbh if SBS is invested enough.

[fathom rock]

[quick lake]

Surprise indom

[swift mango]

Unburst Anis still so strong...

[swift mango]

Well it's within expectation but I didn't think ASS would wipe his team. My bad.

[valid fern]

man, still amazed at how people get their sanis to actually do damage. mine is like a pea shooter and yes, she's at 10/10/9.

[swift mango]

Do you have Rapu or Noise built? You may need them to survive indom AsS.

[fathom rock]

No and no

I do have a blanc

[swift mango]

Nvm not gonna work

[fathom rock]

Yeah both sides will indom

[swift mango]

I'm not gonna advice other to play mirror blanc

It's a headache

[grizzled bone]

Wheres your Scarlet?

[fathom rock]

I

DONT

HAVE

[grizzled bone]

Say no more

[fathom rock]

ONE

[grizzled bone]

[fathom rock]

And the alternatives will feed enemy jackal

If only sg actually attacks p5......

[swift mango]

Just use Cindy to wipe Cindy.

SBS or Red to wipe The other team should be better

[grizzled bone]

Why didnt you use sbs against their t3 again?

[fathom rock]

Deficit.

[grizzled bone]

Really?

Oh I guess

[fathom rock]

Hmm cindy to beat cindy

[brittle hill]

Make the 2nd team 4RL to match his speed. He's only tickling you in full burst

[swift mango]

2RL Cindy should beat their Cindy just fine

[fathom rock]

Mf was wayy faster than 4rl

[grizzled bone]

Do you not have a Blanc?

[fathom rock]

I do

[swift mango]

Gonna go mirror Blanc huh? Hell territory

[brittle hill]

I mean you could be 4RL just long enough to outlast his Blanc indom. If you have Noah. I'm on mobile so I don't remember what you just used

[grizzled bone]

You could out stall the Cindy team then

[swift mango]

He has no noise and rapu invested

So nope.

[fathom rock]

1 more ol on noah and I'll go ol noise

[grizzled bone]

I was thinking indomd ASS

[fathom rock]

Fighting fire with fire

[swift mango]

Indom ASS wiped their team lol

You can do indom mirror fight. I'm only do that to myself.

Not to others lol

[grizzled bone]

Their blanc linked to their ASS and not Cindy?

[swift mango]

4 defender 1 supporter.

So ofc Jackal link to Ass then Blanc trigger on ASS

[fathom rock]

Yes because sanis has lower hp

[grizzled bone]

Hmm I was assuming they would take more dmg from jackal link but I guess ass was linked too

Can you make a 2rl xmaiden team?

[fathom rock]

I actually haven't thought of that

Noah/xmaid/rh/emilia/jackal is still 2rl here

[swift mango]

Do you have XMaiden built?

[fathom rock]

To an extent yes

[grizzled bone]

Within range?

[swift mango]

Then just.

Jackal+Centi+cindy+XMaiden+Emilia them

[fathom rock]

Sr0, checking cp

[fathom rock]

Nah that loses on cp

[swift mango]

How much is this?

[swift mango]

Then do you have Laplace+?

[fathom rock]

Noah/xmaid/rh/emi/jack 393k
Jack/centi/cindy/xmaid/emi 380k

Yes I have la+

[swift mango]

Use La+ instead of Xmaiden

[fathom rock]

403k cp

[swift mango]

Yes that would wipe

[fathom rock]

Ok

We meet next reset ig, thanks

[swift mango]

Wait

Deficit still

[fathom rock]

You've gotta be kiddi-

[swift mango]

403/479=0.842

F

[grizzled bone]

Do a xmaid Rosa team

[fathom rock]

406 if I give noah bastion

[fathom rock]

Nice 1/1/1 no ol ros

[grizzled bone]

You're no fun retro

[fathom rock]

I don't have unlimited mats

I am slowly investing pvp

[swift mango]

You mean Noah instead of Centi?

[fathom rock]

That would be 407k

But not 2rl is it?

[swift mango]

Are you talking about My Cindy wipe suggestions or Caishen 2RL XMaiden? All along?

[fathom rock]

That would be noah/la+/cindy/emi/jack

Don't care about positioning rn

[grizzled bone]

Don't burst with lappy

[fathom rock]

Don't care about positioning rn

[swift mango]

Swap Jackal with Lap ofc

[grizzled bone]

Also no b1

[swift mango]

Jackal is b1

[fathom rock]

Jackal

[grizzled bone]

Wait nvm I see jackal

[swift mango]

Maybe replace Noah with Centi if no CP difference

[grizzled bone]

What was their t1 speed?

[swift mango]

Because Noah taunt help the other team survive more.

[fathom rock]

391k

[fathom rock]

5-7 business days

[swift mango]

Okay Noah >>> Centi lol

[fathom rock]

I am slowly working on ol

[swift mango]

407 is barely out of CP gap so it's good enough

[grizzled bone]

I'm in bed and dont have calculator

[fathom rock]

Calc says "basically never"

[grizzled bone]

Wait I meant their Cindy team

[swift mango]

Do you have level 7 quantum cube though?

[fathom rock]

3rl in calc but with jackal feed can be boosted to 2.5rl or even 2rl

[fathom rock]

Yes I speedran it

[swift mango]

Equip it on Lap, Emi and Jackal. And you should be fine

Without worry about feed

But ASS should feed you enough even without

[fathom rock]

With cube change

[grizzled bone]

[swift mango]

Cindy p3. Jack+Noah p1-2

[fathom rock]

got it

[grizzled bone]

I agree with this positioning

[swift mango]

Noah could be p1 if you sure she could survive

[fathom rock]

She can

[grizzled bone]

So you didn't have enough cp for xmaid team?

[fathom rock]

P5 la+ ?

[fathom rock]

No

[swift mango]

Sure

[copper creek]

i got ninja tagged here

[grizzled bone]

Youre no fun Retro

[fathom rock]

I DON'T HAVE UNLIMITED MATS

[fathom rock]

[swift mango]

Now on to the other team

[grizzled bone]

I believe rheax wanted to ask you a question

[fathom rock]

Easy?

[grizzled bone]

Indom ASS and you're done ✔️

[swift mango]

Ugh not sure... But put quantum on Centi too... I guess

[fathom rock]

There is no way sbs double buffed by some of the best buffers fails

[quick lake]

Moran

[swift mango]

How is ur Blanc CP comparing to Crown?

[fathom rock]

Not even close lol

[swift mango]

Nvm

[fathom rock]

74k vs 101k

[swift mango]

How many ammo SBS have?

I mean does she have any ammo line?

[fathom rock]

Too much
Over 100%

[swift mango]

Nothing to worry about that part I guess.

[loud sonnet]

RH dies get revive and die again

[fathom rock]

Cindy p2
Hey you won anyways

[late marten]

If the player has low syncro but high CP on par with mid-ranking players, is it risky to battle that player?

[thorn pagoda]

just noticed i have Rosanna, but she's not invested at all. might as well OL her gear and see how she does 😮

[quick lake]

Rosanna needs alot of investment to do well. Not for the faint of heart Tough to recommend building (unless u wann pvp main )

[thorn pagoda]

thanks for the heads up. i'll only use her when her skills are at 7-8 then

most of my pvp units only have ol gear, but they're at 0 instead of 5
should probably max the existing ones out first

[quick lake]

I dont think +5 is necessary for now, gains are quite marginak at higher syncs. I think +0 or to +2/3 is good enough. +5 for key units optionally

You’re bottle necked by gear fodder

[thorn pagoda]

bottlenecked by manufacturer specific gear?

[quick lake]

Bottlenecked by gear fodder. We lack fodder material to level up the gears to +5

[thorn pagoda]

😤

true

[quick lake]

Rocks and T9M is not the problem at all

[thorn pagoda]

only at the very beginning, but doesn't last long

the temptation to remove gear from unused nikkes just to max out the higher ones
probably not worth it long term

[quick lake]

T9M not worth foddering. Regular T9 gear should be alright if u have excess

[loud sonnet]

[onyx crescent]

any pvp cookers for sp defense?

[quick lake]

No Rumani, no centi?

[onyx crescent]

centi yes

[quick lake]

T1: Scarlet Crown RH Noir Jackal*
T2: Noah Centi Cindy xMaiden Noise
T3: Blanc SBS Emilia(21%) Biscuit Rapunzel

*Quantum cube on Jackal

Pls invest invest in Centi, Noah and hopefully Emilia alr at 21% cs

Gotta start learning to pvp soon with CA too

[onyx crescent]

noah has all gear OL lvl5 emilia is around that cs

[quick lake]

Alrighty, thats good. Left centi!

[onyx crescent]

centi gonna get benched soon anyway

since shes battery rn only

[quick lake]

We got not enough batteries still

[onyx crescent]

i guess champion arena i see usage

[whole pawn]

@tropic summit btw, I forgot to ask u, teams u recommended me are for both attack and def ? or just attack?

[quick lake]

Probably defence. Ideally u tailor ur teams against opponent on attack

[whole pawn]

this is what he gave me when I asked for teams, not sure is it for attack or def

[whole pawn]

but one question, how do I tailor xd

[raven plover]

the next time they announce CA, its gonna be 90% development

[whole pawn]

let's say my opponent has Cindy noah Rapunzel centi Laplace with 171k power
do I have a chance against him as liter grave Rh sbs Alice with 222k cp?

[onyx crescent]

thanks for the team comps

[quick lake]

So an opponent:
Noah Centi Cindy Laplace Rapunzel is a 3RL comp

You can try 2 approaches, 1) Burst fast 2RL is good
So something along: Scarlet Centi RH Rumani Jackal (2L) can counter this team

2nd more uncommon approach, 2) Burst way slower, 4RL
So the team would be: Blanc Rumani Biscuit Cindy RH

[whole pawn]

tf is 3 RL

[quick lake]

Oh we're starting there

[whole pawn]

drunk scarlet or sbs?

[quick lake]

Regulr scarlet

[whole pawn]

I m noob at pvp so what does 3 RL means xd

it's just unreal that some of these units aren't built, man I have to build rumani jackal and centi at this point

[fathom rock]

Burst times are measured in the amount of times a normal rocket launcher shoots or the amount of time a sg user shoots
2rl = two rl shots or 4 sg
5 sg = 5 sg shots = 2.5rl
3rl = 3 rl shots or 6 sg

[whole pawn]

yeah I don't have her, I have sbs

[quick lake]

Can probably read the pins, but essentially in pvp we measure a team's burst speed ie how long it takes to burst, in "number of rocket launchers fired". So a 3RL team, means that the team will burst when 3 rocket launchers are fired

[whole pawn]

so I have to build these certain units in order to play pvp?

[quick lake]

Can probably not worry too much about pvp in early syncs. Just know that typically the faster u burst, the more likely u tend to win. So remeber to put in some Clip SG units (Pepper, Noir, BSoda etc), and some Clip RL units (Centi, Rumani)

[quick lake]

Kind of. Eventually you'll need this units to remain competitive in pvp. Just like how RH/SBS/Crown is meta in campaign and lacking these units halts ur progress alot

[whole pawn]

yeah, I don't have crown so xd

so I still need more units for pvp hein

[quick lake]

No worries! They'll come eventually

[tropic summit]

those were def teams, as others said, when attacking, you want to tailor your team based on what opponent are running, learning the jargon on 3RL/4RL and getting familiar with burst gen is gonna be very important to improve your odds of winning

[tropic summit]

no worries, good to see results.

[oak gale]

yall any idea about this or?

[whole pawn]

so my team on attacking should have enough burst regeneration?

but this means I need more units?

[raven plover]

no, up till this day I only use 2 templates

• scar, blanc, redhood, centi, jack
• noah, biskuit, dps, rapun, emi

[quick lake]

T1: Scarlet MaidPriv Grave Rapunzel Jackal
T2: Blanc SAnis Biscuit Centi Noir
T3: Noise Noah Cindy IceMaiden Rumani

Please sync poor Biscuit and Rumani! Can consider slightly investing into them

[oak gale]

alright ill keep that in mind when i login again thanks

[lone sequoia]

there are 3 teams that work against everything, but yep, you only need 2 wins

[loud sonnet]

Time to save 6600 Dias for ssr selector and finally have jackal

[quick lake]

[raven plover]

turns out its not 6.6k, its 10k

[tropic summit]

as hoboman said, in general 1 scarlet team and 1 stall/noah team takes care of the job.

if you've emilia, timing her based on the opponent noah is also an option or running an indom carry unit
else, running a 2RL cindy nuke to bypass with speed

less easy to pull off, but an option, is rosanna sacc teams (requires investiment and CP to pull it off)

due to the nature of pvp being rock, paper, scissor, that's actually all you need on offense

the main reason why people is forced into gem wars sometimes because equally skilled and invested opponents will likely be able to attack and unable to defend

[quick lake]

Have to stalk when ur opponent do their hits as well

[umbral crown]

She also needs skill investment along with doll

[keen vapor]

Reality marble activate!

Unlimited mats works

[fathom rock]

[keen vapor]

They already said it's completed

[keen vapor]

Idk what I'm doing good morning

[fathom rock]

Good morning

[fathom rock]

0.90%?

[keen vapor]

[raven plover]

[keen vapor]

Guys, I'm serious

Have we ever tried to cleanse Blanc's damage taken?

[quick lake]

Like.. cocoa?

[keen vapor]

Like Mica

Or Ade immunity

[umbral crown]

Go try

[gaunt cypress]

rossana mica ade

[keen vapor]

I wasted rookie attempts :deadge:

[worthy knoll]

It'll prolly only work against Blanc Emi since Emi is slow nuke. Else the issue is the timing, you have to Burst Mica after Blanc, it means you are giving the opponent the first B3 move just to dispel Blanc debuff.

[keen vapor]

[jade merlin]

screen the best sp PvP team plz

[jade merlin]

What's Emilia 21

[worthy knoll]

[jade merlin]

Even rumani

[keen vapor]

Ignore it, is fine however she is

[umbral crown]

This

[lunar dirge]

Only can work at 0,5rl lower speed, but even then there is a delay

[tropic summit]

would need to update this one replacing noir with xmaiden/laplace+ for T2

[keen vapor]

Is still 2 RL?

[tropic summit]

anti emi 3RL and 4RL with 4RL and 5RL mica 🤔

[keen vapor]

Also, Noir has a buff of a higher attack stat than Cindy

[tropic summit]

aye it's true, might mess with 2RL afterall

[keen vapor]

While Maiden buff can't work with nukes

[tropic summit]

variations would be:

with xmaiden you only need 1 cube lvl 3, with laplace+ you need 2 cubes lvl3, but you remove feed from noir SG, at the cost of losing on her atk buff, but adding a splash offburst

it's an interesting alternative depending on whether you think you've to deal with a 2RL scarlet opting for feed to hit burst earlier 🤔

[umbral crown]

Imagine someone kills your P2 Anis

[keen vapor]

How much quantum needed if Emilia not 21

[tropic summit]

indeed, not fond of p2 anis

[tropic summit]

uh let's see

[umbral crown]

Go quatum lv10 ez

[tropic summit]

seems to not matter at all

same results respectively for laplace+ and xmaiden

[keen vapor]

Good

[tropic summit]

all considered makes sense, that's a ton of batteries there already

but ye maybe anis in p2 for a 2RL could survive enough

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

else ppl can run centi instead of anis and anis instead of centi in w/e other team 🤔

like in the scarlet/blanc/rh/centi/jackal, you put anis in p4

[tropic summit]

V2

[quick lake]

[worthy knoll]

they can't kill my SR15 Anis

[tropic summit]

the double splash tho in the variation with emi and laplace, let's hope ppl don't start getting CS% and charge damage lines

14.63 x 4 = 58%

throw an atk% x 4 = over 40%+ atk aswell, that's gonna delete hurt p2

[umbral crown]

Not yours

[tropic summit]

this was sarcasm anyway, there's no way Merry has a SR15 an- ... hmmm

[keen vapor]

Thank you very much

[umbral crown]

are you sure about that

[tropic summit]

there probably is a way merry does

[tropic summit]

the "i will delete your p2" recipé, if assuming 3 OL's of charge dmg, atk% and CS

imagine a laplace+ and an emi with those

[worthy knoll]

Dun worry.. I won't traumatize you guys with my Anis CP

[tropic summit]

@umbral crown well it was real

[umbral crown]

Always was

[umbral crown]

200k

[swift mango]

Rapi can be burst 1 or 3 and counter electric. Maybe she would have use in Arena after all.

(and duo tower)

[bleak shale]

kit first, shes a mg so ur already a peg down on pvp

[gaunt cypress]

cindi

[swift mango]

Yeah, skit first. But if she had sth like -50% dmg to electric code then.

[lunar dirge]

Mg

[swift mango]

Np in 2rl team or Rossanna team.

[lunar dirge]

2rl team with my is literally Cinderella's team but with rapipi instead of cindy

[wild vine]

Winning?

[swift mango]

T1 lose

T2 50/50

T3 win

[wild vine]

How about if I switch T1 and T3?

[keen vapor]

.... Huh, that sounds better

[keen vapor]

But not better than Noah team for team 3

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Just skip round 2

[wild vine]

Ok so switch T1 and T2?

[swift mango]

I would probably

Use T2 to hit t1.

T3 to hit T2

T1 to hit t3.

[keen vapor]

Skip by putting one unit alone

[keen vapor]

So flex

[lunar dirge]

T2 seems lost too, he doesn't have b3 units to enter after 1st burst rotation

[swift mango]

Well, that put enemy t1-3 at deficit.

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

This is PVP sir

[swift mango]

Well, SBS normal attack can wipe. Cindy need to burst

[lunar dirge]

And this is Noah biscuit vs Noah biscuit

[wild vine]

why pvp make my smol brain hurt

[swift mango]

@wild vine

[keen vapor]

You don't invest enough in your PVP teams

[wild vine]

Any way to redesign the teams then? I don't have centi

I try my best but idk where to prioritize

[keen vapor]

You lack CP

[lunar dirge]

Sbs wipe off burst is really slow

[keen vapor]

Noah team

[swift mango]

You already win with my suggestion. Wtf changing team?

[wild vine]

Idk y'all are all telling me different things lmao

[keen vapor]

Brains don't hurt

[keen vapor]

Why saying to invest is different

[tropic summit]

bro has emilia and doesn't use her nuke to free win on one team and scarlet the other

[swift mango]

With my suggestion

Their team 2 and 3 will be cp gapped.

Team 1 got counter.

[oak gale]

hey yall is team 2 fine? bc i dont see a burst 1 in it

[tropic summit]

@quick lake fix T2

[keen vapor]

Swap Centi and Rumani

[oak gale]

💀

[wild vine]

Aight all 3 won, thanks 🙂

[tropic summit]

le wild blood

[oak gale]

isnt she in team 3 tho

[keen vapor]

INVEST

[keen vapor]

Exactly, swap between teams

[worthy knoll]

SAnis + Noir

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

[oak gale]

im cooked

[tropic summit]

at least p5 will be hit hard?

[swift mango]

You have 10+ second for that.

Edit: Yeah, my bad maybe only 5 seconds

[keen vapor]

@quick lake you're banned from my kitchen

[oak gale]

[keen vapor]

Show your SG units please

[tropic summit]

the rumani and centi swap was gud too, it's the right flextape

[keen vapor]

Is either this or invest on purple Anis

[keen vapor]

Which I would

[oak gale]

here, sorted by power
and everyone is built until liter , naga and jackal are in progress

i can manage a free slot or two in the syncro too

[keen vapor]

:deadge: if no one is invested with overload then just replace Noir with purple Anis

[lunar dirge]

true, but their 2nd team will be ready to enter 2nd burst via rh bicuit xmadiden

And it'll be once they got enough burst gen

[umbral crown]

both do lack

[swift mango]

Biscuit could get killed off easily though. Maybe RH will get killed because she lowest def. Idk

[oak gale]

ok did, any other edits or?

bc im kinda worried that noise will be killed or blanc's team wont do well idk

[lunar dirge]

well, even then I think rh xmaiden Cindy will do more then his team

[keen vapor]

:susge: well, we could ditch maid privaty maybe?

[keen vapor]

Test Noise team on rookie arena and see who gets attacked the most between Noise and Noah

[keen vapor]

Mica she's so cute

[swift mango]

Well, the enemy team doesn't have sustaining could tip it to SBS team though. But I won't know because the fight never happened haha.

[oak gale]

ye i just got her today

[lunar dirge]

well, we're at our best when arguing about something which won't even happen🤝

[keen vapor]

Swap Maid Privaty with Laplace

We don't need feed

[swift mango]

I think you are right though. And enemy would win in the end.

[keen vapor]

Also swap positions between Laplace and Grave, I'm guessing she has higher attack than Laplace right now

[oak gale]

if its for dmg , i think phantom or quency escape is more reliable bc teh 10 9 4 and 10 10 10

[keen vapor]

No

[oak gale]

then?

[keen vapor]

I just said

[keen vapor]

And then the other

[keen vapor]

Reset Phantom btw

[umbral crown]

In 6 months

[oak gale]

never , that mf is the only reason i can advance in elysion tower and my highest dmg as off burst

[keen vapor]

@sharp nymph never tell anyone to wishlist phantom ever again

[keen vapor]

I mean her skills

[sharp nymph]

I reccomend Phantom for pve, not pvp.

[keen vapor]

Now do this unless you prove me otherwise

[sharp nymph]

I'm still going to suggest her.

[oak gale]

thats the thing , her main 2 skills acts as buffs to herself
And again i use her in elysion tower and story if im not gonna use sanis scarlet

[keen vapor]

Maxed skills on Phantom for PVE looks acceptable for you?

[oak gale]

:D

[keen vapor]

You did this Kelvin

[sharp nymph]

This is still a waifu game, if Burrito likes Phantom that much then not much we can do.

[oak gale]

[keen vapor]

@oak gale what's Laplace/Grave attack stats

Also, does Grave have attack lines?

[keen vapor]

[oak gale]

laplauce isnt built , bc im like 3-4 months into the game so i didnt have much chance to , and grave has ful lol gear at 4 4 4

full ol gear*

[swift mango]

Phantom is kinda good but with b3 lv4 I'm not sure she gonna wipe anything in arena. Well, she has high CP though so still better than unbuilt units.

[oak gale]

i mostly use her as a off burst dps , since her burst doesnt rlly provide any bonuses beside the main dmg and thats it, so it was better for me to focus on scarlet rather than phantom burst

there will come a time that i focus on phantom's burst but thats after i finish other things like liter and grave and other support characters

[whole pawn]

so it doesn't matter what team I make for now for attack because I don't have certain unit, so I focus on making ones depending on what I have?

[swift mango]

Arena doesn't really need of burst DPS AR.

So more like CP padding

[tropic summit]

well no, you can still find options in terms of batteries/carries, that can still lead to you winning a match.

While certain nikke are mandatory, there are still alternatives, most of the time

Tailoring to enemy teams is the best approach, although having a general stall team and a general burst team is an option that can work

[oak gale]

ye ik , again i use phantom for elysion tower and story , not much in pvp unless i need higher cp

thats why i was saying if laplauce is there to increase the cp or to deal dmg im better off putting someone already built so it does better

[tropic summit]

why is china trying to bully me

what have I done to these people

now i can't reach certain teams because i'm too high in score

[oak gale]

i mean-

[whole pawn]

IG I have to look for those alternatives

because I have no clue

[tropic summit]

keep in mind you've time, don't be hasty in investing in copium picks over just waiting out a few seasons

[whole pawn]

do I have to min max those units? like centi rumani jackal etc

[tropic summit]

batteries are recommended to be SR5 doll, min requirements on most skills

[whole pawn]

idc about rank, I want a good amount of gems

[tropic summit]

can you hold ch3-ch6-ch9 as is?

[whole pawn]

what ?

[tropic summit]

challanger rank 3 up to challanger rank 9

ch4-ch6 is 2.7k gems, ch7-ch10 is 2.4k gems

[whole pawn]

bro I m still diamond 3 for a month

[tropic summit]

oh rip

[whole pawn]

that's why I asked for teams to maybe reach a higher possible rank

[tropic summit]

mhm

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

i think you're best asking for advise pre-match until you get confident, while learning pvp yourself this way

[oak gale]

im always either around challenger II or V

[whole pawn]

I need coaching but who can coach me

[tropic summit]

another tip for climbing faster is to keep your 2 tries for slightly pre reset, then use all of them in a row (to attack 4 times in short time)

[umbral crown]

Rail

[whole pawn]

I m still silver in league of legends do u expect me to climb by myself here

[swift mango]

Just reset more. At high score you can reach every team if you reset enough. What's your rookie defense though that made them lose so much?

[tropic summit]

you should be rank "uninstalled" in league of legends, your life will already improve

[tropic summit]

standard 3RL scar blanc rh

i'm making them tilt alternating between 2RL, 2.5RL and 3RL

[swift mango]

Those CN maybe just test their teams like me.

[tropic summit]

hope so

[whole pawn]

maybe, but I only play aram

[tropic summit]

ok, you're better than most then

[umbral crown]

But when Blood MA?

[tropic summit]

pvp-arena specific MA doko

especially after that debate with iris

[umbral crown]

Who iris is

[whole pawn]

so ... can u coach me in vc?

[tropic summit]

even voice chat? just post your teams here and ping me that's enough

if i don't answer someone else will

[tropic summit]

like echo or blood

[whole pawn]

do I post my opponent team?

[umbral crown]

Imagine all the posibilities in vc