#pvp-arena
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The problem is we have Cindy 
Cindy will never have the link unless u have like 4 atk line because she don't gain the fat atk bonus until entering burst 3
sad 1 attack line noises
Just put cindy p4
But Cindy is more likely to be hyper invested as opposite for supports 
In Noise+Centi+Anis+Jackal+Cindy
She would often linked
Naga give less than 20% self attack at max level. Just use Crown if you are desperate.
were holding our position so far 
@hidden egret Believer 
You can't aim higher?
like diamond 5
Show target 
In Ozone case, Naga is really high CP (higher than Crown), and Cinderella is the burst 3 so there isn't a real need for better buffer
Crown also give shield to help with survival
Unwinnable.
barely most they have are sr dolls
What have I told you
R first
wait wait
Lv1 Sr for units you won't upgrade anymore is fine though.
You're still bricking
and you don't reroll dispatch either yet
He should upgrade to SR5 to have a chance at PVP 
Well that's just about 4k more cp
see here rdolls 
6k* and important amounts of HP
Uuhhh, I can't see the level
2% more HP and def I guess
But is R, which is good
phase 0 
Yeah, is easier to work
R lv0 is bad
tbh i still dont know when to reroll i still get gems in them
Where do you use your maint kits?
Or you hoard?
I gotta cut in half and settle for 5k.
i tried treasuring exia but got bricked from blue mats so i stopped that was 4 days ago
:susge:
empty?
both electric solo raid are over, late to the exiaT party
Bankai, why you brick more :hu tao why:
hey this when sr was here
Treasure exia is for whale or end game raid malder.
You are still too soon for that, unless she's ur waifu
this is my mat collection
Give me 
Ok
decent enough.... For next banner
Look 
i have her at 15
SR lv15?
yeah
@kindred tinsel everyone here but Anis and Tia have R15 doll at least
Where your mats went 
I have her at SR15, still no stage 6, 200 million off
whale 
How about ur Alice?
Considering to get a very expensive 4th ele line 
f2p dont get many mats
Same
I'm F2P btw 
How about ur Crown?
Same 
I need some help 
free to pay 
@keen vapor please help 
Darn, Julia wipe
this look winnable im i mistaken 
Put crown in P1, pepper P2, Cindy P3
then do i win? 
I can guarantee that will lose.
why so
just show your entire roster and all 3 teams you're facing
and what you're currently running
just not team 1
is your team 1 a trade secret or smth? just show your roster then and your opp
Where was the recording of your previous run?
dident but I can beat him if my b2 stays alive on team 2
Noob.
i need help bursting team 2
Win if they know what to do. Lose if fight as it
Yeah, this is impossible....
just noticed the level gap 
dang
you're gonna get cooked
how do I make sure I can burst aka make b2 and b1 burst
SR can snipe Anis to slower their team. You could Add Centi if you want to win.
what about team 3?
I am sure this wins.
@keen vapor food burning start over 
centi on team 3
your 100% sure?
No.
you said your sure
i need to protect my pepper and biscit so I can burst then I win
I dont know how to do that
did you record any fight?
@unique wagon
no, I was on phone
I could go to PC but all I know is that if I burst I win

you know?
what's t3
This and I win
I win round 3, I did last time
almost no burst gen there but if you say so I trust you lol
who else do you have in your roster for t2
Post your box if you want others to help you.
Your current team will have a hard fight or lose. Defending on if Pepper knock Anis out in her first shot or not hitting her at all.
I won last time which was like 10 mins ago so I win natrually right?
Replace Maiden with Ein
burst gen?
I didn't see the fight
winning once isn't a guarantee you'll win again
is it rng
That's even slower, making them 4 RL but you 5rl lol
Idk the matchup so Idk
cindy is rng
It's not about speed, is about snipping Anis
i won this because rh lived with rei
also if she dies first before burst its 
Yes, snipe Anis make them 4 RL. But his team becomes 5rl
But.... Yes, might as well replace Cindy
yeah I need to make sure pepper lives, idk which position to put her in to make sure she lives
surely bcus neon dies, they cant burst.
Also, Pepper could feed Jackal enough to make their team 3rl even without Anis
No way 
t3 should be fine

There's also crown, so way
@lunar pawn would I win t2 if I swap rei with cindy by chance? or no
Is impossible for the other teams anyways 
100%
Lmao, I 85% sure I solved T2 already but I wanna watch you guys cook poison.
i lose 30k cp
T3 is secured for sure.
I'd try SAnis Noah on T1 but cp gap is the trouble 
No, I'm busy cooking the others 
370k cp 

Cook something and I can probably guess how it will turn out.
@unique wagon give me a verdict
what da hell
and also is swapping xmaiden to ein a good idea like echo said
wouldn't place pepper, your only b1 at p1 or p2
You mean with that match up?
It's 4RL Cindy vs 2.5-3RL Julia wipe at 100level difference. 100% lose
the splash dmg could kill her
where do i place
My lips are shut. 
crown cindy pepper biscuit xmaiden probably
your right side won't get focused, no SG in that team
crown probably will take the hit first, jackal's RL AoE would probably hurt your pepper.
biscuit will keep crown and cindy alive
but pepper
that's why pepper is p3, so she doesn't get splashed
okay I trust you guys, do I start
record it
Would pepper hit Anis with her first shot or no?
fingers crossed.
I want to find out too.
Record the fight
i will
Idk how big xmaiden's splash is rn
good luck and may nikke be by your side 
he has jackal in p1 so you'll immediately skip her
so should be able to quickly kill rapi and anis
i wonder what will happen 
wtf I lost t3 
This is doubtful

I won last time tho
rng kicks you in the nuts then
send the recording

I did say winning once isn't a guarantee you'll win again
but yea, gotta see what happened
relying on too many RLs can be fatal sometimes
did you skip the fight or play it normally?
wdym gotta go to pc
one sec guys 
He is whale.
you didnt record?
did you record it or na 
video got erased for some reason or I forgot to press record (I dont play mobile)


was on phone but forgot to record
its on phone, based on the screenshots

one sec 
anyone synchro 320 or so?
🐳
While I’m logging in let me say that rei bursted but died because they dident die
on his brackets? yes mostly
Like how did they survive a max rei burst
Crit.
I just wanna compare stats between 150 levels difference, since even without cp penalty the stats difference is crazy
I mean if this kill Anis then skip Jackal and kill Rupee somehow then you could stop them from bursting? Idk how did you win with this...
Team 2 won, gotta fix team 3
I am competing with around 200k-300k diff too, its tough but manageable.
Here 
can you guys fix it first before i try again
show scarlet stats
Do you have a record?
this t3
no I gotta do it again cus I forgot to press record
too much single target, only centi splashes, so even if noah taunts you can't kill mihara
SR10 doll
what should i do
Your Scarlet is lower CP than my lv316 scarlet. 🤤
so 320 synchro vs 471 synchro
My rolls sucks and she's limit breakless 
would swapping miranda with liter be better?
probably lvled gears, also ol lines 
Double 
it's basically playing with a 50% stat penalty 
at 150 levels difference
maybe even higher considering the lower level

50% stat penalty is nothing bruh
no, unless her cp is higher
if your enemy is only using a pepega team, sure
cp is higher by slightly
not gonna make diff then
problem isn't the cp, the stats difference is already there, so it's a penalty already heh
need AoE/screen wipe, if you only have single target, that noah still gonna tank
Idk your roster
rei
Mari is better burst
that viper hurts a lot
no, but will swapping cindy from t2 to t3 and rei to team 2 make it work?
do you have a decent rosanna?
no
what are you spending your money on 
your noah would probably get cooked without biscuit
yeah no gear no skill lvl
the thing is in this matchup when time to burst comes everyone but rh and rei is dead, so rh b1s then b2s then dies then rei burst
@lunar pawn @swift mango help
im bad at pvp
just copy from someones team thats what i do in pvp 
not gonna say anything until I see that t3 recording
I can waste 100 gems to show you
i only have 2 chances left
liter
Huh, did your wipe clear their team or blocked by Noah?
I think if it crits I win and if it dont I lose, and noah did die
I said dps
then none
maybe ein or asuka but 33k
You’re better off having RH B1 and B3, even B2 if you have to
So their Noah died before you burst or after?
after rei burst noah die
33k loss compared to rei?
33k cp
what the
compared to rei is 44k+
wait
Do you have Blanc?
better
yeah but low cp
he does but cp loss
problem is, viper skips centi and starts destroying your team
What if unequip Mari and equip to Blanc?
mari have 3/4 OL
blanc has none
he has a whale account that has been investing randomly left and right
Which unit in your team has lowest CP except Centi?
mari
did your t1 have anyone with decent cp?

If you end up with
Blanc+RH as the last ones standing at the end you should win.
no
Poison.
blanc dont have no where enough hp to survive
blanc only needs to survive until she can burst
problem is who will get her buff, considering all his units will get cooked
as long as you don't enter cp penalty range cp loss is fine
think it was like 84.6% at most
Wait my bad, the opponent will never burst, right?
Centi maybe better at P2-3-4 so she survive...
11% CRIT RATE
p2?
This is just hilarious.
How about
Miranda+Rei+RH+Centi+Mari
?
For SP use this
For Rookie use RH team, using Maiden instead of Drake
should I put quantum cube lvl 3 on centi?
I think you should, either that or Adjustant or Vigor
You said 1 of your team already wins?
yeah t2
I'm not sure so maybe record it. I bet it all on RH would heal up and kill everything.
Did you consolidate your best units into the last team?
wont rei burst
So team1 doesn’t need anyone if you’re not planning to win on it
wont RH burst be countered by noah
You said everyone would die before bursting except p3-4 last time.
except rei and rh
What’s your other team?
They won't burst because Neon is their only b1 and lv1. Would just die and they won't burst
Rei and Rh was at p3-4
Oh wait, LMAO this is easy win
rei was p3 rh was p4
Yeah
Normal attack at 150 lv different hit hard
so if rei lives when burst time comes wont she burst instead of RH since shes p2 and rh is p3? or is that the goal
It's fine if she burst but like you said last time, she would just die.
Is your biscuit on team 2?
if she crits that is
What’s that team looking like
Just start it maybe if you are a whale 100 gem won't hurt.
But record it please.
I only have 2 tries ill start it
sending
@swift mango
That doesn’t sound like good results
skip cus loading
Heh you’re better off putting RH where Rei is. If RH burst with B1-3 she wins
Now it's p2-3 who survive...
hp diff prob
For SP defense
For rookie you can use either Scarlet team or Rumani/Centi/Cindy/Emilia/Jackal
so what do i do
Surprisingly close :deadge:
He wasn't too happy about me beating him
SLIGHT CHANGES WORK 
What’s your xmaiden’s cp?
Take that Blood 
everyone is wasting their gems
bad.
This really surprised me that Julia burst only cut half of Biscuit and Pepper HP at 100+ level difference... Maybe their Julia was 1/1/1 and not even geared.... Maybe you could have won without XMaiden even.
do I swap xmaiden into t3 then?
Out of pepper and XMaiden who has more?
pepper
You just need a little bit more burst gen for t3
You’re better off switching her with Miranda
How much cp you lose
Because your t2 is fine without either XMaiden or Pepper, everyone else is anchored in t2
@swift mango how do you think this will go
Switch Rei and Centi I feel, both Liter and Centi burst can be expended for RH
Maybe put Rei in p1 so she would die.
If Centi dies, RH becomes unkillable with heals with her B2
noah in question:
Oh is she better than XMaiden?
like this?
Noah won't burst because Neon just ded
That last run you did, if RH bursted instead you would’ve won
would this team win?
or do I swap xmaid back with mari for cp
Maiden has better gen
12k cp gap
I'm uncertain without seeing it in action. It could be faster and win it could be not...
would 12k cp be better in this situation then bursting faster?
Who has higher def, Rei or Liter 
rei
Not make much difference
Ok yeah leave her slot 1 then
which wont? bursting faster or 12 cp? or both
so cp?
If RH bursts you’re fine
12k CP, so long at not above 15.4% deficit, no stat penalty
She heals the damage she deals
do I start
for t2 i could make mari burst instead of biscuit
if crown dies that is
alr ill start
Ez win

you freaking liars

rh did not outheal and died
istg
Show vid
I wonder if Cindy p1 would still win because Julia burst won't hurt anyway.
Lmao, if Liter died and RH b1 you win…
Literally buff only lasts 5 sec. And RH buff is 10 and stronger too
I told you from start if RH B1-3 you win
You’re better off having them die so RH can use it all
what if i lose even if rh b1
Miranda has higher cp than Liter?
no
Liter higher?
liter higher
Liter
by a tiny amount
RH slot 2 
also xmaiden died almost instantly
Seems like you burst much faster now with XMaiden.
So you burst before slot 2 dies
Yeah is liter hp/def higher than maiden right?
Who is your 5 highest CP Nikke?
in the team or every nikke
Every
Regardless, maiden just need to stay alive long enough to charge burst
miranda
I mean 5 of them
cindy rei rh liter miranda
I have a feeling this will work

I need to hear what blood says first
How much CP is
Centi, Liter, Rei, RH, Blanc?
30k diff
wont I just get shreaded before burst since lvl gap and cp gap?
What if you replace Liter with XMaiden or pepper?
54k dif
4th highest
Even pepper still 54k dif?
Maybe you could equip Centi with Bastion...
And do
Rei+Blanc+RH+Centi+Liter
But Idk if Blanc could survive until burst.
How is your Blanc s3 level?
Well, Centi would still stall Viper if she does
is the deficit fine?
do I have enough burst gen too?
oh ok makes sense
Should be if Centi survive like in 2nd video
6rl speed instead of 5rl speed though
Still pretty slow
slow enough that blanc dies tho?

this was an interesting watch 
Rem trying to fight some interesting teams, especially with those synch differences 
@swift mango thoughts on this?
How about
Centi+Rei+Blanc+RH+Liter
?
Too slow and team 2 need Crown
without crown t2 dead?
Yeah
centi p1??
Can she survive?
no, even my rei with alot more def stats died before I could burst
Hmmm
I guess
Rei+Blanc+RH+Centi+Liter
Or
Rei+Blanc+Centi+RH+Liter
are the way.
Blanc need to survive until burst though.
is this foolproof strat?
Should be fine if Blanc survive.
Rei+Blanc+Centi+RH+Liter
That is. Put Quantum on Centi is fine too.
It would be 6 RL team.... Maybe be Adjustant would be better
he moved up in rank 
Okay my bad
can rank 89 fight 47
You could refresh and see
@chilly furnace
Tf u want keep pinging me randomly
@swift mango is noah + biscuit op
Do you have Noah?
yeah but 0 invest
This solve lots of problem then...
@swift mango dont you think that guy is gonna get dropped soon
with that team he isent surviving top 50 in a day 1 KR whale server
You should find him at that rank
If you just refresh
isent it 3 ranks higher the max you can fight
What's your rank?
dia 9, his dia 5
Oh...
Yeah if they play the game that is
im not letting him get past me
he took 1000 of my gems
I'm seriously concerned here. Are you spending money?
for the 1000 gems? nah I did tower
and also my account is KR (Day 1) returnee
Maybe you can just do with this one to be honest.
im gonna hunt that guy down for making me waste gems
thanks for the help today im sure we will meet again sooner or later
kr server?

rare
my account was made day 1 but then I left and came back at eva collab, so my pvp is super bricked
cant even recover spent around 4k already 
dont get sucked up into pvp
spending gems isnt usually worth
Does your Red Hood having more HP and DEF than Centi?
I just wanted to taste what pvp felt like 
thats where you went wrong 
everyone here has tasted pvp and it can get very down spiral-y
started with 400 gems thinking I could have some fun in pvp and ended up here stressing for a hour and the guy ranked up so i cant fight him now 
tale as old as time 
If your RH have more HP and DEF than Centi then you would be sure to win with
Liter/Miranda(whoever could die in 5rl)+Rei+Centi+RH+xMaiden
yeah
Your first Video showed that
Rei almost wipe their team, with Centi small wipe in addition you should be able to doing so.
Centi can survive p4 in video, so if RH is tankier than Rei then she could survive until burst too.
only if she critted it would have been over
even with 11% crit rate she dident crit
You were so close in beating them in first video.
stupid soline 
-# surprisingly close

@slender forge imma back top 10 eh
I'm whacking my brain for the last hour or so to come up with this.
Since their T2 doesn't have SG it's only attack from left to right and Julia Burst barely do any dmg.
Cindy could win with just 4rl burst no need for Biscuit.
Biscuit come to t3 with Blanc+Maiden tanking p1-5 and burst in 5rl to wipe their team.
Check CP if you fight him again. Crown could replace Blanc if not enough CP I guess.
Or you can just use the old line up.
XMaiden+Rei.A+Centi+RH+Liter
@rustic sandal
@keen vapor exchanged some gems for testing my own cooking
havent seen that on my SP in like a year

ewwwwwww
yabe enemy soon revenge

I won't allow 3 whales on top 3
only two
SU heard you and will give you 5 whales
I already had them 
I shall try to transcend my current self.
I'll have to train both of you 
But your server has 10 whales because they all 20+ level higher than you.

can someone build me a special arena team i always losing
So much work today
let's cook 
Your level so high
you could have started on Nier event
Cope with it
Someday youll have to cook mine again
Soon
INVEST 
Yes ill do invest
Can you get 2 charge speed lines for Emilia?
for this team
You don't need those for 2rl cindy
Noah? 
21% Emi doesn't affect 2rl team
I thought it did if 4th battery was SG 
didnt have noah brother 😭
My bad
But when you started 
first anniv
i already playing since the game release but i sell the other account
this my sec account

You will have to do
Moran/Rapunzel/Summer Anis/Biscuit/.... Wait, battery will it be enough?.... Goodbye Rapunzel 
Nah he should have started around your time just looked at other in your bracket
So that's why you have 10 levels more than normal
Are you NA? 
sea brotha

okay thankyou i will try your comps
Wait, it still needs fixing 
Moran/Biscuit/Summer Anis/Noir/Laplace
okay thankyou, so i need to build rumani and moran then because i haven't build them
Expensive pvp
No way
I checked calc and Moran team still 4RL
Moran Biscuit v slow team 
Not even Moran having higher burst gen than standard AR can fix this arquetype 
Might as well keep Rapunzel in 
But Rapunzel way lower CP than Noir 
Third team can't be fixed 
Ferb, I know what we are going to do today
yo brother noir is already in team number 2
Consequences of reworking by memory 
But, SG clip is very interchangable.... Or maybe we can keep Rapunzel after all.... But low combat power.... But is the same with others SG clip
so rapunzel then ?
Yeah, Rapunzel position 2 so we keep Biscuit safe in P4....
okay thankyou 👩❤️💋👩 will post result tommorow
Gut feel on the team speeds 
Is Ein a good PvP arena nikke ? If it is, how good is she compared to other nikke ??
Ein is a good nuker with 1-2 buffers. High nuke dmg + follow up dmg
Abit harder to slot in nowadays, given we have scarlet and Cindy nukes
Gotta start learning how to pvp 
Against T1: Can honestly do 5 SGs, take down his noise
T3: Regular ScarJack without deficit would be good
I'd know more if I actually knew what chars did 
Are you giving them 4rl team? Really?
No worries!
T3: Jackal Blanc Cindy Noir Rumani
T1: 5 Highest CP shotgun units
gimme a sec, setting up a monitor 
To which unit in your box you have OL on? And how many units can you build additionally?
Poison?
I'm losing because my burst is not fast enough so it's all wasted into Noah immunity. Can I do something else, Centi instead of Laplace should be fast enough right? I just have to get rid of CP penalty then
erm..I don't have scar or centi
@rustic sandal You had 2 solutions to that:
- Using Biscuit against Viper team (most reliable)
- Putting Rei in P2 and RH in P4, and Mari or some Wiper/Buffer B2 in P3.
Oops edited. Do check CP before attacking!
noir is included in my sg units 
Its fine. As long as as T3 not in CP deficit
T1 can use the
MaidPriv XMaiden Pepper Naga Noir
T3: can use the team u have
Yep. should work
Opponent 4RL + with Maiden
Any team would work tbh.
Yeahh. opponent’s team is pretty bad 
Yeah your suggestions should work.
time to test
also this feels super weird
with 3 monitors, and the main one not being the one in the middle
yea these ain't happening 
Hmm depends. Grim’s teams look bad 
Mod in pvp = bricked 
If u've asked for defence teams here, those teams should be fine
T1: Alice Blanc RH Noir Rumani
T2: Forfeit
T3: Grave Viper Cindy Liter Jackal
Do you have quantum cube lv7?
first one I'm 25k deficit
No only lvl 3 with 2 slots, I'm upgrading resilience and bastion to 7 first
third is 13k
is there sm where u can fit alice into t1?
Put them on Anis and Jackal and it would be 2rl team

wat
Edited, Alice in T1
The only reason this team would be 2.5rl is that you don't use Quantum on any of them. Or Laplace is without Treasure.
t3 still ok w -13k?
Yes.
You should prolly record...
3 won, t1 died
No record?
Blanc indom didnt make it probably 
Sigh...
you guys think I can do smth against this team in rookie?
he poppin up in every refresh
I use quantum on jackal and laplace with treasure on laplace, idk I was super confused as well
Bump for me.
Yes.
man i just found someone who hates me lol
I mean you did hit em twice too
Did their Noah activate before you burst? Or their biscuit make their Noah+Jackal invulnerable then burst after you?
the latter. bothj got invuln and then they burst after me
Time to mix up those defence team
That's nothing to be confused about then. Just change to another team.
Do a Emilia wipe on them.
no emilia nor s anis 

Jackal Rumani Cindy Viper Noir
Check CP.
I mean it's just rookie arena at least. I'd just like to know how to beat that kind of team without those 2
Do you have Noise?
I do
Just did
uhhh it's 90k lol
alice is almost mandatory for my arena teams
Did your Wipe kill their Noise and Biscuit?
only Noise afaik, biscuit barely survived
my cindy is 10/5/10 and Noise is 4/4/4 but Noise has no OL so far, Cindy is 4/4 OL
Do you have biscuit?
yep
if I mirror the team I think I'm at deficit, so they should have more invest than I do
will check tomorrow 
thanks blood
nvm just checked: with mirrored team and cindy at P4/P5, I'm at 183859 while they are at 221366
Go with
Noah+Jackal+Biscuit+Cindy+Laplace.
Their Cindy is at p2. It would make your team 2RL.
No need Anis
Keep Quantum on Jackal and Laplace still. Don't remove
Noah Jackal Biscuit Cindy Laplace are at 218312, no deficit
Enemy CP is too high but may be possible.
it's alright lol, I decided to pass cuz the gap is huge
Does Alice have 100% CS?
Mine 99 
Cus I am sure Alice will not get indomitability as well at sync 200.
Scarlet-noir-blanc-xmaiden-jackal
Moran-rumani-biscuit-cindy-emilia
Noah-Centi-Sanis-Bsoda-Noise
@quick lake
What suggestion you think could improve?
Jackal Tia/Rumani Blanc RH Alice is the best/highest CP you can do but the risk is dependent on multiple factors.
Check CP for both variants.
My previous was Cindy + Noah and Sanis + biscuit but I did the switcheroo Abit
uhh I'll check tmr
sleepi 

wat
T2 is good. Might shift Blanc to T3 for SAnis Indom, maybe had RH to T1 for buff scarlet. Overall pretty good defence though. Also need to take note for T1, for blanc's indom, whether Noir or scarlet has lower HP. If Noir HP is lower, then Indom goes to Noir
No Rh lmao
Why do you leave me like that you keep me wondering 
Yeah I was thinking about that too
Scarlet-blanc previously but I put scarlet-noir to maximise jackal link
Might do T1 Noise Scarlet Noah XMaiden Jackal, functionally god comp. Then run Blanc +SAnis T3. But overall defence team is already pretty solid
Will look into this team comp if the current one fail
God comp?
Nvm, I can't run Noise RH and Jackal together due to PvE circumstances anyways. 
Keripo calls it the god comp 
Noise Scarlet Noah Rapunzel Jackal
Biscuit don't really have merit with both Moran and Rumani though.
The only reason you would use Biscuit in that team is that to help Moran+Centi survive a wipe and burst with Cindy. Otherwise, Moran alone already enough to survive Normal attack.
Yeah, not PrivM brother.
That is god comp true.
xmaiden not maid priv but yeahh. Slight variation
But whether ICBM can kill that depends on multiple factors. 
I just put rumani for burst gen hahaha, but you recommend using centi instead of rumani? Swap them both?
That team also counters Rosanna btw.
Moran Centi/Blanc + Biscuit + Cindy also counters opponent's cindy teams quite nicely as well
"God comp" is zixk's term, I borrowed it from him (who probably borrowed it from someone else)
Do you have Rapunzel? Because Noah team without Rapunzel or Biscuit isn't stable.
No rapu yet
Still waiting xanne
But functionally it does have the highest general win rate cause it has two attack angles (AoE nuke + continual DPS) as well as both counters (anti-AoE nuke and anti-continual DPS)
So I can run
Xanne
Biscuit + Noah
Blanc
Doesn't actually mean it can't be beaten though, especially with all the new units we have
Hello I'm sad that I cant use Rumani and Rapunzel exclusive comps because I havent built them yet, and no Moran too. And no plans to build Viper. Laplace seems tempting too and Rosanna.
Don't be sad
Just swipe and become happy


I am forced to split RH Jackal and Noise because I just do PvE mostly.
Might need to SR 0 my PvP units and not bother SR 5 tbh but champs will tell.
Im still curious how can one of Keripo's comp has 100% win rate 
I actually do low key regret not maxing out Rumani and stopped at MLB, I realized I can't put her on the same team as Anis cause the CP drop becomes too huge
There doesn't exist any 100% win rate teams
Highest anti-counter potential.
You are probably referring to some private test matrix I was cooking with which had 100% win rate against the limited set of generic teams I tested against
Ah yes possibly
Realised that 24.7% emilia has a lot of good uses in certain 2RL comps 
Every team comp can be countered, but whether or not the counter is practical and possible to use in Champion Arena is a different question
I guess
Noah+Noise(more Charge speed than Noah so Noah steal her taunt)+Biscuit+S.Anis+Another RL or clip SG here maybe.
Then you could go with 2RL Cindy.
You only have 1 Noah but have to build 5 CA teams, don't forget. So saying "oh yeah, it can be countered by Noah" can pigeon -hole your CA team building
Yeah definitely. Tough to build 2RL teams in CA. Not enough batteries 
If you are attacking, won't you only need to build 3 teams?
You think it wont be based on a point system?
We still dont know CA format 
Where each win = 1 point?
Cus I think thats way more fair
It incentivizes you to try to win all 5 at increased risk
Isnt it still 3 win 2 lose = Improve rank?
But I know SU is too dumb to implement this
I think sky's idea of 5v5, where u throw out/reveal 1 team at a time sounds pretty good.
I prefer win team +1 lose team -1
Each person can hit another person max 1 time
Hmm
interesting too
So if there are 20 people, you can hit everyone 1 time

And then the amount of points gained by every person in that group will be tallied at the end
Hope its the top 10 challenger ranks qualify for CA 
I think it might be Top 1 3 5 7 or 10, and they will "promote" to CA and leave SpArena.
Or CA is just like another solo raid because I believe it is synclocked to 400.
Yeah likely. Top 1 is abit sweaty 
We don't know but could be 3, could be 4, could be each win is 1 point
I think CA will just another be solo raid
Maybe smth like this?
Da heck? Can I choice to stay in SPA at that point?
Hope rumani can survive tho
If CA uses the SP Arena system and requires 3/5 wins to swap positions, that'll be pretty bleh
Max out her s2 kewk
Weird aim
I hope CA is not like SPA 

Sorry I mean Emilia s1
That said, my current 5 team comps are pretty evenly strong and without any ez weaknesses. Cinderella + Rumani kinda completed my previous weakest team. So it's a question of how PvP invested are my opponents to be able to put together 3 solid attack teams if it becomes a 3/5 wins system
If they "promote" top10 up then the bare minimum reward for CA need to be 3000 gem per 2 week or it would be unfair.
Well, just gotta wait for more CA annoucements. Probably not too soon cause UR just got revamped 
I run tests against 9 generic stack teams and 4 of my 5 defence teams win against 8/9 of those generic attack teams. The one they lose against? The Noah team (unsurprisingly)
All 3RL? 
3 RL*.
If you take into account cs on RLs, most 3RL teams should be at 2.5RL. Changes abit
My union is still mad at me cause my Bastian is still lvl 8 and my Tempering is soon to be lvl 9 and my Quantum is lvl 11 
Back to cooking CA teams 
I think 3 RL* is Jackal.
All except one, which requires Quantum cubes to hit 3RL. Which is fine, I have more than enough Quantum cubes to pass around 
You would need 15% charge speed on all the RLs in that team to make that happen. I know we get a lot of rocks now, but that's still a lot of rocks
I think most serious pvp players have some cs on their RLs 
100 rocks into pvp units so far 
Still trying to figure out how to use Rosanna in CA
such a weird unit
Mindlessly run her into enemy Jackal
Yeah, so it'll be like 2.9RL or whatnot, but probably still not enough to "3RL burst before Noah" or the likes
Will matter in what would otherwise be sudden death matches though
Yeah, bursting before Noah is tough
Guys, Rosanna just nuked my Noah 
SR15 Noah time
Why your Noah have high ATK
It's not supposed to hit her since she is not an attacker
If there's no attacker she hits the first target I think
Or whoever is next in priority list
Sounds more like your Noah needs a bit more investing into lol
Rosanna shouldn't be 1 shotting your Noah
She is P1
Maybe bring Rapunzel or Biscuit with her next time. 
Rapunzel is bad
Biscuit is taken
Anyways, Rosanna takes my Red Hood to 10-20% with just her skill, her doll is SR15, no way Noah lives a Rosanna burst after tanking the whole enemy team
Cindy becomes Magical Madoka after you max her s2.

is it worth using Ein if the skill books are not fully upgraded ?
Thanks, I was sleeping for the night when you sent that message, I just saw it.
What team do we mean when we say Scarlet team?
Hello PvP pros, I'm struggling to regain the first place against this guy. Any ideas for teams to beat him? (I don't own rumani and xAnne)
Thx for your help 🙏
They should just delete Rosanna from the game
Idk, she is actually easy to counter nowadays.. well since doll update 
My issue is that she just shits on Jackal on defense
Well it depends on your investments but if you are using Scar Jack, they will surely use Jackal too when they use Rosanna against it.. so you can plan your def anticipating that.. but either way, defense is always in disadvantage unless you Cp gap them in all 3 decent teams
Is there a very specific scarlet team or was Echo talking about the first team here?
positioning thoughts ?
Last team definitely a big no no lol
Anis will use her burst instead of Blanc
so ill just switch blanc and anis position ? or replace one of them ?
What's ur full box like?
what is that table that is used here?
can you please share the url?
Do
Ein Blanc Jackal Anis Tia for T3
@graceful grotto Could you give me your opinion on what would be better teams setups for rookie and SP arena?
you need cs?
defenders should have 30% more hp than attackers on equl gear and oll invest,(for example,my rh has 2,2m vs cindy's or crown's 2,7m)
0 cs units,still got 5 teams at 3rl speed
Cause u SR focus. I'll take my chill 3% 
someone who is sr focused won't have 5 pvp teams
Just auto and you can have 5 teams 
correction:5 proper teams
come on,join xmica builders club
Wait for livestream then decide whether to get more copies of xmica/xmaiden 
Scarlet-Blanc-Red Hood-Xmaiden-Jackal
Noah-Centi-Cinderella-Laplace (T)-Noise
Rumani-Rapunzel-Biscuit-Sanis-Emilia
Is that only for defense or attack too?
Or u could do 4RL Blanc comp. Saves battery units
Reference the second team. Similar RH Emilia line up
i'll just patiently copy ur 1st team comp for defense purposes


my moron still in infant state so this will have to do i guess
It's for defense, attack is always subject to the defense team
Is that related to that spreadsheet I saw around about what counters what?
Idk which spreadsheet you're using
I saw it I never used it cause I had very few units back then. Now most of my units are still underinvested
I was trying to brute force via cp
Welp, you can just throw the defense team you're attacking here and most peeps will help
If the opponent is running a delayed burst ie Emilia, better to burst later rather then sooner. 3-4RL Blanc + SBS/SAnis/Emilia generally good. Moran doest need much investment as well 4/4/4 should work fine. Mostly its the lack of overal CP 
she lack 2 OL Gears atm. i'll try once she has full gears
charge speed op is apply to entire team right?
Wait how to counter Noah Biscuit team btw i forgot it
maybe this?
indom emilia with rh and blanc buff takes care of that one
alternatively a 2RL cindy

icbm
Good day!
Are there other PvP cubes other than quantum?
And what is the max level for them?
Me soon 
Scarlet Blanc RH....
My client got unsatisfied 
One can't sleep now? :hu tao why:
@graceful grotto why you didn't help this guy instead 

PVP cooking is so unfair 

with naga too
High CP, for padding
i tried rumani centi cinderella emilia xmaiden for a 2RL team
lost instantly cause rumani die so fast, kinda expected lmao
SR5 doll 
they better make the sr boss easier

this one is cruel
I think they fixed this bug
Does anyone know/seen @vocal warren talk before
They sent me a random friend request and I've no clue who it is. 🙃
After Quantum its mostly Tempering which is priority
I see
So... I should lv resi and bastion first to 13 and then level quantum and tempering
True
if one decides to PVP then suddenly we need to get this entire screen full of dolls
Quantum >= Tempering > Vigor/Healing >= Adjutant imo
lmao anis is 5 SR doll?
Hm yeah, quantum and Tempering to 7 ideally
adjutant
Got it
Thanks a lot 
Nah, she's last for something
She's only 4OL
Adjutant is meh 
Keripo wouldn't say the same
4OL anis on sync 323
I use Anis as my sac 
And Tia no overload : Diesel nod:
You need to have AR/SG/SMG to take advantage of cs cube to actually burst faster. Or mostly for hitting that 17% breakpoint
MICA 
Mica saves the day
And, you know, weird things happens with my Summer anis RH team
3.5 instead of 4 RL
Ur T2 has no sustain, while they have Rapunzel. Ur opponent has SAnis which targets ur SBS directly so SBS dies faster as well
Shall I switch Rumani to Noise?
Do you have scarlet?
Siwtch T1 and T2, replace SBS with original scarlet
Okay
T1: Scar-Jack (Fed alot due to opponent's 2 SGs
T2: Blanc Emilia ICMB
You also dont need Cindy in that team cause u're bursting with Emilia
It seems like my Emilia died before bursting for Team 2
For emilia burst, generally you'll want Blanc P1, with Biscuit as well.
So Blanc Emilia Biscuit Flex Defender (3RL speed)
T1: Scar Centi RH Flex Jackal
T2: Blanc Emilia Biscuit Flex Flex
Can replace flex with units like Laplace, xmaiden, SGs etc
For example, your T1, your burst with Emilia, so Cindy does absolutely nothing there but slows down ur speed significantly
Your T2, running Jackal + Biscuit is abit redundant because Jackal would alr allow more survivability, so Biscuit Invuln can be better used in another team
Team 1 can position as:
Scarlet Laplace Noah Rumani Jackal
Is there a reason behind it?



