pvp-arena

[worthy knoll]

You guys fighting Emi team?

[tropic summit]

hey merry, won against ch1 yesterday, not sure you saw it

[coarse lake]

just go with sanis stall can't rely on scar nuke

[tropic summit]

what would be a typical s.anis stall team?

[worthy knoll]

Noah Crown Moran SAnis Biscuit is usually the solution against Emi bursting team

[coarse lake]

noah/biscuit/rapunzel/sanis/laplace+

it's a rh bursting team with emi subdps

[tropic summit]

oh this one i could build up within a month likely

[coarse lake]

huh? you can't run it?

[tropic summit]

i only need to finish biscuit and rapu

[coarse lake]

if rapu hp is at least like half that of centi you're prob fine, as long as in cp range

[tropic summit]

right, i see

definitly could use a built stall team anyway

only got 2 burst (pmaid, scarlet) and 1 dps (SBS)

[coarse lake]

wot, are your sanis and laplace not built

[tropic summit]

they are, but i haven't been able to use them properly

[oblique magnet]

it feels like we get less upgrade materials from anomaly interceptions than EX - upgrading gear has been a slog 😦

[tropic summit]

or at least, my defense teams aren't using them

very inconsistant perfomance on def

[coarse lake]

what skill invest is sanis, and is laplace treasured

[tropic summit]

but i'm emilia-less vs emilia, so maybe they just get bypassed

[worthy knoll]

You can sub SAnis to SBS in this team

[tropic summit]

so noah crown moran sbs biscuit

[worthy knoll]

Oh wait its a Noah

[tropic summit]

i'd only need to build moran and partially biscuit, that's also possibly within the month 🤔

[worthy knoll]

Yeah its Noah so SBS won't work

It can work if its a blanc Emi

[swift mango]

You could just burst them with Blanc+RH man.

[tropic summit]

4RL still?

or you mean nuke early but with blanc instead of other B2?

[swift mango]

Still that team but RH p3

[tropic summit]

anis is on skill lvl 8, laplace is treasured and on skill lvl 9

[coarse lake]

8/8/8?

that's prob enough, as long as she doesn't have ammo line

[tropic summit]

no ammo lines indeed

[worthy knoll]

Min is 9 right?

Was 8 enough

[coarse lake]

oh wait yeah burst might need 9

[worthy knoll]

🤔

[tropic summit]

oh, is that due to CD or dmg%?

[worthy knoll]

9 with lvl 7 reload cube iirc

[tropic summit]

reload cube i got lvl 10

[worthy knoll]

Ahh then only skill level left

[worthy knoll]

Though I think it should be fine

[coarse lake]

no it's ammo issue

yeah you need lvl 9, sanis will have 2 ammo during burst

prob won't have enough dmg at that point

[worthy knoll]

Coz in the Noah Crown Moran SAnis Biscuit team, we have Crown

Crown gives reload speed iirc

[tropic summit]

CP would be fine, minus s.anis on skill 8 atm

[coarse lake]

reload speed isn't the issue, it's the ammo

half the dps on rh due to having 1 extra ammo

[worthy knoll]

Oh right

Yeah the ammo reduction

[coarse lake]

honestly you prob die once the invuln runs out

[worthy knoll]

Its not a Blanc Emi

So its not a hard hitting emilia

[swift mango]

In this team RH would hit Moran and S.Anis would die

[coarse lake]

most of his units can't survive in p2 against that emi

[swift mango]

Not even need to try

[coarse lake]

[worthy knoll]

No it wont

[tropic summit]

yep, hits like a truck

[swift mango]

Bet

[worthy knoll]

Suee

[tropic summit]

p2 is exposed unless on doll SR15 with 200k hp

[worthy knoll]

1000 bucks

[coarse lake]

does moran s2 have prio over noah autos

[swift mango]

Noah can't really hit RH at p3

[tropic summit]

although tbf they killed my scarlet on max doll and 203k HP

[worthy knoll]

Noah attract is priority over Moran

Attract

[swift mango]

Moran burst taunt everyone

[coarse lake]

yeah but is moran s2 attract

[tropic summit]

so i need to remove noah?

[coarse lake]

it just says taunt for 4 sec

[worthy knoll]

Nah place Noah

I mean I tested that team

For everyone it works too

[tropic summit]

so we yolo with this?

[worthy knoll]

Your prob only is SAnis

[tropic summit]

ah rite, skill lvl 8

[worthy knoll]

At burst 8

[coarse lake]

imo you straight up lose once invuln on noah and crown run out, and your sanis isn't able to kill

[tropic summit]

might want to wait then, will try once she's on skill 9

[worthy knoll]

Yeah

[worthy knoll]

Nah emi dies quick

Its Noah Emi not Blanc Emi

Emi has no protection

[coarse lake]

maybe blanc/sanis/biscuit/crown/jackal works

emi prob lower atk than rh

[swift mango]

It's Rh team though

[coarse lake]

won't be targeted until rh dies, which she might not

[worthy knoll]

It should be fine too

Well need SAnis

More on skil 9 tho

[coarse lake]

if your sanis is lower hp than biscuit, try that indom sanis comp

might be enough buff to make up for ammo

[swift mango]

My bad about Noah lol

Nvm me

[tropic summit]

🤔

so to fix this one, we can run this right?

gotta check burst gen tho

[coarse lake]

use jackal instead of rapunzel if going nuke route

[tropic summit]

uh that'd make scarlet live indeed

[swift mango]

Centi to p5...

Then it's same team

[tropic summit]

yeah and RH won't steal invulnerb

but scarlet still dies

[coarse lake]

honestly, just try the scarlet/blanc/rh/centi/jackal, as long as blanc can live to burst, prob fast enough nuke

[swift mango]

RH need that Indom to burst their team

[tropic summit]

so you want an RH vs RH, but their noah will get x5 sec invulnerb, so i'll have 5s to wipe whole team

it's kinda pushing it

[coarse lake]

their noah gets 10 sec

even with 4rl blanc you got 1 sec to kill the entire rest of their team

[swift mango]

RH would killing from left to right and Biscuit would die first

[tropic summit]

noah taunts

it will go for p1

🤔

[coarse lake]

rh attacks aren't consistent, she shoots all over the place

[swift mango]

Noah did taunt in the clip but RH still hit p5

She shot everything

[tropic summit]

hmm

yeah curious taunting there

[coarse lake]

did you go do a pve fight before that rh fight

[tropic summit]

i'll go with agent suggestion then try blood one

[tropic summit]

why this? 🤔

[coarse lake]

shooting range bug

[tropic summit]

you kidding me

there's such a thing?

[coarse lake]

regardless once their rapu dies it should be normal taunt by noah iirc

so it won't work

[worthy knoll]

Yeah only will hit Rapu

[swift mango]

Idk about shooting range but RH always hitting everything a lose the taunt fast even if I did 5 fight at once

[tropic summit]

what the actual f

[coarse lake]

their jackal wasted an invuln

[tropic summit]

so vid above was the one with the bug?

[coarse lake]

so not a fair comparison to here if you were considering that, plus your sanis is semi bricked anyway

prob need blanc + crown to maybe have enough dps

[tropic summit]

yeah s.anis gonna need to wait for skill 9

let's see how the one with blanc does

[coarse lake]

oh shooting range makes enemy rh get stuck in p1?

[median flare]

no it's just video show rh shooting randomly

[coarse lake]

well either way you need a way to kill their team

blanc/sanis/crown/biscuit/jackal

[median flare]

yeah

[tropic summit]

yeah and no taunts that could do that, maybe timing on reload/cover?

[coarse lake]

try that imo, assuming biscuit is linked, and sanis is squishier than biscuit

[tropic summit]

nah sanis got more hp than biscuit

[median flare]

rh always hit p1 after doing shooting range once

no need taunter

[tropic summit]

is there any scenario where you actually want the bug?

as generally p1 is the tank/indom

[coarse lake]

can p2 sanis live, is she a good bit tankier than scar

[worthy knoll]

Its a trick done too when opponent with RH, so that she isn't hysteric on her shooting

[coarse lake]

I assume no rumani

[median flare]

you want their rh shoot only at your p1

[coarse lake]

if no rumani, then you can't do blanc sanis crown setup

[tropic summit]

might die just like scarlet tbf

[tropic summit]

yep she's wishlist but don't have yet

[coarse lake]

yeah with that bulk she prob will

sanis tankier than rh?

[tropic summit]

looks like she has extra DEF and HP than RH

[coarse lake]

yeah.... you need rumani here for a indom sanis comp

welp

[tropic summit]

oh well

still need that skill lvl 9 anyhow

[coarse lake]

if you get her burst to 9 you can just do the noah/biscuit/rapu/sanis/laplace

[tropic summit]

saving that up

suppose it would work on def aswell rite?

[coarse lake]

unless biscuit dies after revive so fast that she can't give the second invuln

[tropic summit]

eh... if they have that splash dmg, might

[swift mango]

How built is your Privaty?

[tropic summit]

i won with privaty b4 by timing the stun on emilia, but not against RH

[worthy knoll]

Nah I think he meant

[coarse lake]

oh yeah priv could work....

[worthy knoll]

Privaty for your ammo

[coarse lake]

hmm

[worthy knoll]

SAnis still burst

[swift mango]

I mean Privaty off burst and S.Anis s3lv1 will be s3lv10

[coarse lake]

priv + pve strat so rh gets stuck on noah since your team is gonna be slow

noah/biscuit/rapunzel/sanis/priv + pve strat

should be enough

[tropic summit]

omg that's insane

love it

so i run 1 shooting range then launch the pvp in rookie?

can i leave it straight away or need to complete?

[coarse lake]

can exit out of shooting range immediately

[worthy knoll]

Can leave straight

[tropic summit]

ok you got my curiosity

CP is fine aswell

[coarse lake]

hoping rapunzel can live the 1 extra rl of emi

[tropic summit]

how about moving rapu in p4 and s.anis in p3? s.anis can def. survive

[coarse lake]

even the post-nuke splash?

sanis needs to kill rh before she targets emi, if emi splash kills her during that it's joever

[tropic summit]

aren't we planning to block it with noah?

oh you mean splash autos

eh... she'd die prolly

[coarse lake]

put vigor on rapunzel

how much hp is centi and rapunzel btw

[tropic summit]

centi?

rapu with vigor:

[coarse lake]

using your centi vid to approx dmg

[tropic summit]

oh cool

[coarse lake]

uh

yikes

[tropic summit]

yep

centi has a ton of bodies compared too

[coarse lake]

hmm... could still work with rapu self healing

[tropic summit]

the "could" is scaring me

[coarse lake]

either that or pray sanis lives long enough to kill both rh and emi

up to you what risk you wanna take

[tropic summit]

it's rookie

[coarse lake]

their emi will be rh b1 buffed post nuke

[tropic summit]

in fact i only gain from this as i learn how far i can push this lineup

[coarse lake]

so will be doing a lot more dmg than pre-burst

imo the p3 rapu is prob better

might get lucky stun too

[tropic summit]

so we wanna try this?

[coarse lake]

yes

[tropic summit]

aight let's see

[coarse lake]

record

[gaunt viper]

whelp

[tropic summit]

gonna hit shooting range

then launch the rookie battle

[coarse lake]

crit diffed?

[gaunt viper]

guess it's time to try the God comp

[coarse lake]

yup guessed it

[gaunt viper]

first try today and died

[coarse lake]

noise died?

or cindy

[coarse lake]

yup crit on noise

I think

or maybe it was crit on s2 proc, either way she didn't have enough hp to live the nuke

[upper grove]

how much worse are non clip SGs like Naga compared to someone like Noir?

[coarse lake]

almost 0 use in pvp (except sanis)

[gaunt viper]

yep, idk how i would help that one

[coarse lake]

pray to rng gods or build god comp

[tropic summit]

OMG AGENT

YOU SEXY BEAST

[coarse lake]

oh it worked? I wanna see how much dps it was

[tropic summit]

everything went as you predicted it's insane

[gaunt viper]

now just gotta hope i can roll all the ammo lines off then

[tropic summit]

insane...

[coarse lake]

oh you're fine, just enough dps

priv was the right call, good idea from blood on that

but you still wanna get sanis burst to 9

priv as a crutch rarely is worth it in pvp, this is a niche situation

[tropic summit]

so smooth it's really insane...

@swift mango @coarse lake good job lads

[worthy knoll]

Try this too, im curious how it would go, Crown Cindy Biscuit Laplace+ Rapunzel, if its too slow or too fast. Don't forget to do the range trick first too

[tropic summit]

the range trick is really new to me tho, NIKKE sure is a fun place with these "features"...

[median flare]

[coarse lake]

hmm

actually it was dangerous, biscuit barely lived long enough to give noah second invuln

[tropic summit]

there's 1 problem merry, my cindy is barely built as i only rolled her

probably will be lacking on DPS

[coarse lake]

biscuit needs more bulk to be safe actually

or you boost your dps to kill rh faster

[tropic summit]

yeah biscuit is next on the list together with rapu to be built

i only half assedly built her for safe use in p4 or p3

[worthy knoll]

Nah the thing I'm more curious if it will be blocked by Noah or not.

[tropic summit]

because of the decoy acting up?

it should count as p3 likely

[worthy knoll]

I mean if its too fast or too slow

[tropic summit]

uh i see

[coarse lake]

biscuit is one of those nikkes you want as bulky as you can

lets you do p2 in noah comp with less worry

[worthy knoll]

If its too slow you'll die , if its too fast it'll be blocked by Noah

Crown can be Blanc too

[coarse lake]

if you can get sanis burst to 9

[keen vapor]

Oh right, I could use tempering on her

[coarse lake]

swap priv out with crown, higher dps

crown also helps a tad bit with biscuit sustain

s1 def boost, tiny but it helps

[keen vapor]

Huh

[gaunt viper]

kept getting either ammo or CS

[coarse lake]

either way gotta remember to shooting range it before every single rookie fight

you need that lock onto noah so rh doesn't jump and kill your key units

[tropic summit]

yeah noticed the difference

got only 1 coin left, which of the two you guys more curious about?

@worthy knoll @coarse lake

[worthy knoll]

I've been testing slow comps lately so I'm curious on the timings

[coarse lake]

did you get sanis burst to 9

[coarse lake]

it only works if she's burst 9, otherwise you have less dmg than priv

[tropic summit]

ah then no, don't have enough books atm

[worthy knoll]

Don't forget the range trick

[gaunt viper]

I wish I could keep this lol

[coarse lake]

[tropic summit]

going with merry one then, as i can't s.anis lvl 9 yet

[coarse lake]

honestly

if you want, keep it, lock 2 and 3, reroll

atk and def both are great for noise if you wanna minmax

use temp locks if you wanna do it

[gaunt viper]

that's true

[swift mango]

Why not?

[tropic summit]

@swift mango btw blood it worked with privaty, thanks for the tip

[swift mango]

Gratz

[tropic summit]

running it now, let's see

[gaunt viper]

cause it had CS so id have to lock and reroll anyway 😅

[coarse lake]

if you want to keep the CS, just make sure noah also gets the same amount gl getting a blue on noah though

[swift mango]

What is that for?

[gaunt viper]

I ended up locking tho and got CS dmg over it tho so worked out I suppose

Noise for the God comp

[coarse lake]

ok that's good

[swift mango]

Then just just use it as is

[gaunt viper]

locked the def from earlier too and 1 try got this

[swift mango]

Why even reroll anymore?

[coarse lake]

wow stonks

[tropic summit]

@worthy knoll

[swift mango]

DEF help noise for than Charge dmg

[gaunt viper]

worked out. for CP too

[worthy knoll]

Oh it hit, just that your Cindy wasn't built

[swift mango]

CS+ATk+DEF is basically perfect roll already unless youw ant ele dmg

[worthy knoll]

Thanks

[tropic summit]

although redhood switch aggro like that was expected right?

once crown dies

[coarse lake]

you don't want CS if you use god comp

or ammo

[worthy knoll]

It was expected RH to die when Cindy bursted

[coarse lake]

atk def ele is prob optimal for that

[tropic summit]

uh naruhodo

[swift mango]

Why though?

[coarse lake]

need p1 noise to have taunt prio pre-burst, then during the reload p5 noah steal taunt to sac

[worthy knoll]

Well more like all of them die aside from Noah who is biscuit protected

[tropic summit]

although tbf an invested cindy might've wiped them

or rather, would've

[coarse lake]

if you get same cs on noise and noah that should work too

[swift mango]

Then why CS stop that to happen? Can't Noah have CS as well?

[worthy knoll]

It would, and if its Blanc you also have another mode of survivability

[coarse lake]

yeah if they have the same cs

[tropic summit]

can try with blanc tomorrow if you want 🤔

[gaunt viper]

here's the verdict

[tropic summit]

personally curios aswell as it would add more variation in my lineups

[coarse lake]

for god comp technically noise just needs less cs than noah, but in other noah noise biscuit comps you want her to have more

[gaunt viper]

same CS and Noah with 2 ammo lines

[tropic summit]

@worthy knoll you thinking of this, correct?

[coarse lake]

ez god comp win

[swift mango]

What is god comp even , how is it god if it can be beaten?

[worthy knoll]

It needs your Cindy S1 and Burst built at least.. and better if Cindy has atk lines

[coarse lake]

although taunt post burst was a bit inconsistent, still worked out

[worthy knoll]

Yeah, just don't forget the range trick

[coarse lake]

it's god bc back in the old days it had the highest win rate

these days it's only important role is beating indom scar

[coarse lake]

this is it

blocks nuke and sustains easily

[gaunt viper]

worked out in the end and I couldn't be more greatful, what a headache these last few days have been

[coarse lake]

need to roll noah off ammo completely for fully optimal

but rn is fine, not urgent until it starts losing

or if rapu is the only one alive

[gaunt viper]

oh so having the ammo is making the taunt timing off then?

[tropic summit]

no matter how much they fixed noise heal, it is still insane 🤔

[coarse lake]

yeah noise stole taunt sometimes post-burst bc of it

[gaunt viper]

only went through 9 rocks on Noise, got another 171 if needed

[coarse lake]

no ammo on noah keeps noah on aggro until she dies, which is optimal

[swift mango]

How though? Noise is mich weaker comparing to before?

[worthy knoll]

Mmh lets try this time with Noise instead of Rapu, should be closely the same

[gaunt viper]

I'll do it if i notice i start losing then 🤔

[coarse lake]

now I'm certain god comp is truly the best way to deal with scar indom, even ones that go quite fast like this situation

well unless you need the units in that team elsewhere

[gaunt viper]

yeah, should just went all god comp a while ago 😅

[coarse lake]

prob still loses to indom scar with rosa snipe, but that's a whole different beast, that one got other ways around it

2rl emi stall should work due to no rh buff

[tropic summit]

if anything, from tonight, i've learned i better build up these lineups

the privaty team is fun stuff

thanks @swift mango @coarse lake @worthy knoll

[coarse lake]

it's fun only bc your sanis isn't properly built smh

[swift mango]

Did you win with Cindy?

[coarse lake]

build her properly so you never have to use priv in sanis pvp team again

[tropic summit]

if she was built, would've wiped

lost due to investiment difference

[coarse lake]

also don't do that sanis priv team on def

[tropic summit]

@swift mango this one

[coarse lake]

this is an atk only team, loses to scar jack super easily

[tropic summit]

yeah but my current 3 teams are already losing, it might surprise some and earn me some extra succesful defs

[coarse lake]

yeah if you wanna test it feel free

[tropic summit]

i'm thinking of making a 2.5RL (scarlet), 1 stall team (s.anis), 1 3RL wipe (pmaid)

[coarse lake]

once you get her burst to 9, replace priv with a clip rl for defense

team is only 4rl rn

any half baked scar jack kills it atm

[swift mango]

It's slow burst gen though. You could try but they could wipe with common 3rl

[gaunt viper]

yeah that's fair. I fought him another 3 times and of the other 2, 4/5 units lived. this was the closest of them if anything

[tropic summit]

well i'm dealing with worse, emilia vs emilia less

the idea is to counter their wipe with noah and have enough sustain for s.anis to slowly wipe

[coarse lake]

this is still fine, but getting close

[swift mango]

You don't even need Jackal.

Just a 3rl scarlet would wipe.

[coarse lake]

honestly... a proper 3rl double buff nuke of any sort kills

[tropic summit]

but at least they commit that to that team, the other do have to deal with either 3RL wipe or 2.5RL wipe

[coarse lake]

4rl noah is quite a waste on def

[tropic summit]

oh oke

[gaunt viper]

True, if something changes I'll drop the ammo

[tropic summit]

then it's pointless

[coarse lake]

get real worried once rapu is the only survivor and close to half hp or lower

invest in noise and rapu skills if you got books spare

[swift mango]

With your investment it's 1 buff wipe is enough. I don't see how it need 2 buff.

[coarse lake]

will help a lot, noise burst and rapu s1

[tropic summit]

hmm then if i want to work on my def teams, what should i run? 🤔

[gaunt viper]

Noise as of rn is 5/5/7 and Rapu is 5/5/5

[swift mango]

Just kill S.Anis and Privaty and the rest can live.

[coarse lake]

doll invest? skills look fine, higher invest than mine even

[swift mango]

No need to wipe whole team

Privaty don't have armour and left ol

Will just wipe with no buff

[tropic summit]

actually, might aswell ask, what would you improve of these 3 current teams? keeping in mind i'm building noise, rapu, s.anis skill lvl 9, cindy, biscuit

if i build cindy p.maid probably gonna go

[gaunt viper]

dolls are just rare lvl 0

[coarse lake]

ok that's the problem

if you got kits spare, get them to r15

then sr5 once you got dolls spare

SR5 is high enough

well

hmm, actually not fully sure rolling noah off ammo would help much

[gaunt viper]

used up all of mine yesterday on SR15 SBS then SR5 emi and Cindy 😅

[coarse lake]

well as long as they don't boost scar invest you should be ok

no reasonable amount of crit rng can make you lose it atm

[gaunt viper]

that's too, far too much immunity

[swift mango]

I'm having more trouble imagine where you would put Cindy into though

[gaunt viper]

you think so?

[coarse lake]

if anything having taunt switch often post-burst might actually help? hard to say

I would focus on investing into noise and rapunzel over rolling noah off ammo

I know for sure that will help more

[gaunt viper]

probably, as of rn Rapunzel has no OLs

[tropic summit]

right now, she'd need enough burst gen and a noise, thinking something like this:

biscuit might be overkill with noah, could put an off dps tbf

or put a B2 buffer like blanc and move noah on p5

but keep biscuit

[gaunt viper]

would it be worth to OL Rapu then I assume?

[swift mango]

Team 3 probably could use Blanc.

Team 2, could use Noah.

Team 1 could use Any 4 b1-2 and Cindy at p5.

[coarse lake]

if she isn't 4OL already, yes

any stat is fine on her, technically CS is optimal iirc

faster heals

oh and she does not want atk, you need her to be lower atk than noise

[gaunt viper]

she's got none 😅, she got all manufacture gear but that's it

[coarse lake]

prioritize the gears that give the most hp

[tropic summit]

hmm team 2 and team 3 i understand, but team 1 who would you put in p1 tho?

[swift mango]

I mean what is your T2 speed? It looks like 4rl to me

[tropic summit]

gonna check

[swift mango]

Gonna getting wipe easily

[tropic summit]

first is team 3, second is team 2

[swift mango]

Yeah now that you fix it it's 3rl now

[tropic summit]

🤔

what is left for team 1 though, i'm struggling on that one

these are the left overs

[swift mango]

Moran+Anis+Cindy+2clipSG

[tropic summit]

eh, it's gonna hurt the CP

[swift mango]

Or just flex

Flex work wonder sometime

How much if your teams auto?

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

Bruh too low

[tropic summit]

if anything it becomes the highest CP of the 3

[swift mango]

Look like your bracket is less competitive than mine.

My flex would hit 450k and that's still 4rl

At lv296.

That's how flex work

[tropic summit]

well my main for PVE are also spread in team 1 and team 2

[bleak latch]

scarlet belike :

[tropic summit]

this is the final result of the changes @swift mango

although i'm really not confident on the flex team

scarlet feast party on that one

[swift mango]

How about just use Anis?

[bleak latch]

Modernia with double hit MG mean double scarlet S2 activated

[tropic summit]

yeah that team is joke dw

[swift mango]

I would move Anis and S.Anis to t3

[tropic summit]

ok lemme sort that

[gaunt viper]

would there be any good improvements to make in my SP squad btw? I got some tickets I could try and pull to make a better squad too

[tropic summit]

something like this?

it's the 3rd column

well anis can go p4 and s.anis p3 to reduce pressure on anis

[swift mango]

Yeah. Idk if your CP would hold though.

[tropic summit]

compared to others in my bracket yes

to give you a rough idea:

average non whale CN tryhard

[gaunt viper]

thank you for all of the help you've provided

[swift mango]

Because I think they can just use their campaign team to auto attack team 3...

Just need like 440k for that

[tropic summit]

yeah but i actually lost in rookie against that team with CP padding above 15%

(on my side)

[swift mango]

Well idk.

[tropic summit]

so i wouldn't give for granted a campaign team can win against a meta team

[swift mango]

Maybe because you used SG

So they burst in 2rl

I even auto attack 380k scarlet Blanc jackal team recently no problem

[tropic summit]

@swift mango it was this one

18% CP diff in favour

didn't even kill rapu with RH hitting p1

[swift mango]

It was because of Biscuit

Scarlet+Blanc+Jackal got demolished by auto attack from deficit

Biscuit can survive

Easy

[tropic summit]

so, campaign team won't win

by same logic

[swift mango]

Would have won with SG or more RL but yeah

Scarlet

[tropic summit]

@swift mango your words

[swift mango]

Your t3 is Scarlet+Blanc+Jackal

Not Biscuit

No protection from normal attack team

[tropic summit]

so this would CP gap and win due to biscuit:

oh actually 13%, wouldn't cp gap

[swift mango]

Why you need biscuit in an already CP gap team?

[tropic summit]

err, you just said that the CP gap lost because of biscuit

[swift mango]

You would need like 530k to gap it

[tropic summit]

ok you lost me

[swift mango]

I mean biscuit on their team

[tropic summit]

yeah, then what do you do if you can't CP gap it with campaign team

[swift mango]

Block all your normal attack with invincible

[swift mango]

Well I use Scarlet+Lap+Emilia in my CP gap team. So biscuit could die. Could throw Noir into it if need hitting p5

[swift mango]

But generally I won't try to CP gap normal attack a biscuit team

Noah, Blanc, Jackal, no problem. Only Biscuit, stay away from it.

[tropic summit]

noted

[hazy shore]

Help. I outburst him but cindy is still too tanky

[coarse lake]

cindy not too tanky, your rh is neutered by biscuit

I assume no emilia

run a noah biscuit sustain comp of your own that has noah using both invulns and you're probably fine

[vapid lake]

Don't bring RH against biscuit you're hardcountering yourself go kill his other 2 team

[outer garden]

I don't even know viable team comps for SP arena...

Lacking jackal and biscuit so those are out of the question..

[hazy shore]

Can specify units? I have most except for s.anis, other collabs and jackal

[tropic summit]

considering your limited selection, work around 2 teams that have batteries and your most invested T3 (i'd say cindy and scarlet) then see how your CP is doing

[hazy shore]

its rookie arena and rh actually works sometimes until he tweaks his positioning a bit

[outer garden]

this is what I was running earlier...

[tropic summit]

your batteries are rumani, anis, noir, drake, b.soda, slower batteries vesti, tia, noise

[vapid lake]

Even better, rookie arena just ignore him and go bully the weakest guy u can hit, take ur 5 daily wins for the challenge progress and dip

Dont waste brainpower on rookie arena

[hazy shore]

I need number 1

[tropic summit]

team 2 is way too slow to pull off cindy potential, team 3 is lacking in batteries to get scarlet going faster, team 1 is gonna struggle with faster burst teams

[hazy shore]

I slam that guy in sp

[tropic summit]

in this case you're probably off better making at least 2 teams strong, the third just drop whatever is left and get it has high as possible in terms of CP

[vestal wigeon]

oggey maybe I should start investing in pvp units I regrettably skipped emilia but I think I have everything else. What should my SP teams for attack and defense look like?

[tropic summit]

welcome aboard the no emilia havers

[coarse lake]

Noah/Noise/Biscuit/Bscar/Centi probably does it, if your bscar is built enough

[warm vortex]

should i upgrade dolls for my tanks? (moran, noah) or is base purple doll good enough?

[tropic summit]

base purple SR5 is a good start, but you want maximize dmg reduction you want lvl 15

don't forsake PVE progression for PVP tho, faster earning of red dust and better loot rates from daily grind is better than those extra 300-600 gems

[swift mango]

Did you beat h18-33?

[tropic summit]

uh lemme check

[swift mango]

Eh, if you are in h19 then you beat it. Otherwise not.

You did haha

[tropic summit]

yeah i'm now gated against fart enemies instead

h18 boss was modernia right?

or was it the powered up walker

[outer garden]

I might be stupid

[brittle hill]

Oh im on 20-30 hard that's the walker boss that spits out missles

[tropic summit]

drastically better on team 1, team 2 is still gen hungry, but not much else you can slot for now, team 3 is filler

once you find better burst gen nikke, you can upgrade cindy's team

[outer garden]

I'll try. any recommendations?

[swift mango]

It was the flying thingy

[tropic summit]

eh send me a screen or name haha there's too many flying bosses, but maybe it's the one with the one shot laser and multiple laz0r bullets

[swift mango]

Kinda stuck at it now because I can't iframe on phone.

So will just wait for level

[tropic summit]

ah yeah, then i know which one you mean

just keep playing it like 20-30 times, you'll get at least 1 run where it misses often enough

iframes are a myth, i can't get them consistently if not running like 20-30 instances

[tropic summit]

hmm let's see

wishlist centi first of all, you wanna get lucky and find noah but it will take real luck, wishlist jackal and biscuit

[outer garden]

Centi huh...

[brittle hill]

also sad news, winter maiden might be a sniper even though it looks really similar to emelia's pose. Will still pull just to see if I can get more Canne's

[tropic summit]

other than that, you could rely on anis SR for a while, but you'll want to sub her for CP reasons asap (mind you, i still use her at lvl 305 )

[umbral crown]

Too.late

My pve is bricked

[tropic summit]

do you regret it tho?

or totally worth and would do it again?

[umbral crown]

Nope, no regrets

[tropic summit]

haha beast

[umbral crown]

Onky thing i regret was not buying emilia gacha skin, the resy its fine

[tropic summit]

at least you got an emilia

[swift mango]

My PvE is honestly just DKW and Crown and Alice

[umbral crown]

I brute force stages till my pvp units die

[swift mango]

The rest can be used for pvp

[umbral crown]

My naga stayed at 1/1/1 for like 7 months

Now she is 4/4/4

[tropic summit]

the anti-meta

[swift mango]

If you used her with crown then you need no investment to s3

[umbral crown]

Crown 7/7/7 and during 1.5 anni i was seriously thinking to reset her

[tropic summit]

what server are you btw @swift mango , imagine if we get resetted in same pvp bracket

[umbral crown]

But for campaign i do not use naga , cp too low. Just for some AI

[umbral crown]

If global then we have a chance

[tropic summit]

yeah global here

[swift mango]

You would be falling behind in level after a year lol. Maybe some investment to unbrick yourself m

[umbral crown]

Im 19227 server

[tropic summit]

oh not too far away

[umbral crown]

There is a chance

[swift mango]

Same but you also use Naga with crown there.

[umbral crown]

If we ended up in same bracket you can secure C2, Rail

[umbral crown]

For campaig i use: Blanc/Rosanna/S.Anis or Ein/Viper+/Moran

[tropic summit]

highest im saying by checking profiles randomly is 19120, so it seems it won't go up to 19200-ish range 🤔

guess you made the account at least 24-48h after me

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

no it's all yours

[swift mango]

Can you even burst every 20sec with that lol?

[tropic summit]

i've trauma from ch1 and ch2

[umbral crown]

Nope, just tanking everything and saving burst for boss

Besto strategy

[umbral crown]

I always go for C1

[swift mango]

Then best you could do is fighting on the blue

[tropic summit]

my strategy is, burst everything before you get killed, leave 1 mob before boss appears, waiting RH CDs, kill minion, burst boss ASAP with RH B1, crown B2, RH B3

[swift mango]

How is your H campaign?

I feel like you would need to spend a bit to keep up with level after some time.

If you don't invest in pve

[umbral crown]

Im red cp but even auto team is losing so i just wait some weeks to gain more cp and then keep pushing

[tropic summit]

then again blood playing nikke on phone, how do you do that, if i don't play it on my PC i'd just plain suck, can't aim

[umbral crown]

Like 15-12

[swift mango]

Well, aim harder.

Use auto aim assist too

[tropic summit]

right

[umbral crown]

Im on phone only, you just need to play horizontal mose

[tropic summit]

i manually aim, unless the damn core is as small as a banana

then i leave it to auto

[swift mango]

I manually aim when using Alice. It's not pleasant experience.

[tropic summit]

alice, the finger killer

[swift mango]

Even small core need to aim

[tropic summit]

not like RH doesn't kill your fingers either

[swift mango]

Just aim with mg

[tropic summit]

but alice really badly wants your fingers on a plate

[umbral crown]

Me a normal day doing pve

[swift mango]

I guess it's good enough.... won't be falling behind much then.

[tropic summit]

do you have any CD reduction tho? rosanna doesn't give it does she

[umbral crown]

I do but 0 investment

[swift mango]

Normal attack all the way.

[tropic summit]

well, i guess that's a way

[swift mango]

It will just be Harder on later campaign. So I would OL crown+Liter if I were you. Just a month at best.

[umbral crown]

My whale rival who also got frame 3% and he got C7 Cindy

[swift mango]

Of mats

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

oh that's pretty good progress

[swift mango]

Your guy invested harder to raid then my guy lol ..

[coarse lake]

considering how late the whale started

aside from me and my rookie whale and my sp whale, no other person has gotten 3% on a raid until this one

when 1 other person in SP did it

I'm surrounded by whales and filthy casuals

the one non-whale sweat quit like 2 months ago

[umbral crown]

Yeah, boi is doing fine

[swift mango]

Dude will be stuck at Mother whale for months, just like my whale lol. Unavoidable.

[coarse lake]

if they know the strats mw isn't too bad

[tropic summit]

best i could achieve so far in RAIDs was 6% iirc

[coarse lake]

was stuck on it for about as long as ch 20 nihil

a lot easier now with crown invuln timing

[swift mango]

How was your level when you beat h21 boss again?

[coarse lake]

lemme check

it was fairly recent

[swift mango]

Can you even check that?

[coarse lake]

20% deficit, I posted it in a diff server

lowest deficit I've fought at for a very very long time, felt ashamed

[swift mango]

You got much more time to farm your team than a typical whale at 343. And our whales aren't even at 343.

Lol

[coarse lake]

I was stuck at ch 20 nihil for a while

since my 320s iirc

[gaunt viper]

quite the matchup, backshot vs nut

[coarse lake]

my sp whale beat it at like 380s kek

rookie whale at 370s hasn't even gotten that far

[swift mango]

Then your are kinda worse than my whale who beat ch20 at below 320 then.

[coarse lake]

did they have water dps built

[swift mango]

They could but they don't bring it to their pvp team aside from Emilia so Idk.

Core 7 SBS though

[coarse lake]

ok checked, did ch 20 nihil at 330

but was stuck there since 320s at least

first nihil

do you know what they cleared it with though

[gaunt viper]

I'm still at Nihil

[swift mango]

Idk lol

[umbral crown]

Hehe probably

[coarse lake]

high ele xlud would make it a good bit easier

this is why I wanted cindy to be water so bad

[coarse lake]

bunny comp, that's your issue

[gaunt viper]

yeah that would've helped a lot

[coarse lake]

nihil is a dps check

also if they did it before the OL cp change, that changes things a lot

[swift mango]

My whale really try hard for campaign. Dude always beat them as fast as he could. Even beat ch34 on first day.

[keen vapor]

Interesting

[coarse lake]

ever since then we got a lot of "empty" cp, so now we can't push campaign with as much deficit as ppl who did it before

[swift mango]

Few hours after maintenance ends

[gaunt viper]

yeah I've been used to bunny comp 😅, it's all fully invested as much as I can get it

[coarse lake]

it starts in a few hours

need to get used to crown comps dude

you're like 2 generations behind the pve meta

[vestal wigeon]

how's this looking?

[gaunt viper]

crown rn is 2 OL and 8/8/8

[swift mango]

Bunny comp is still last gen, need Rouge though. Noir is so over.

[coarse lake]

last gen is tia naga, bunny comp is last last gen

[swift mango]

Tia+Naga is fine but Rouge+Blanc work with 3 B3

Especially when you can't core hit like 34 boss

[coarse lake]

if using cindy maybe

[gaunt viper]

yeah i lvled up Tia+Naga too but not as invested as bunny girls with maxed skills and SR15 dolls

[swift mango]

Cindy also there

[coarse lake]

otherwise I don't think rouge blanc has enough buffs even with 3 dps slots

[swift mango]

Maxwell buff is strong though

[coarse lake]

eh...

then you only really got 2 dps slots

crown naga prob still higher buffs

[swift mango]

Maxwell can also one shot as needed

[gaunt viper]

so what should I be working for?

[swift mango]

So not completely lose

[coarse lake]

yeah true, but I have not seen that used in a very very long time

only time I've been seeing maxwell in the monthly low clears is as a buffer for nihil

[gaunt viper]

I don't have rouge but I've got 276 tickets if needed to try for her

[coarse lake]

never seen rouge blanc

when cindy is used it's still crown naga

tbf almost all of campaign has core anyway

actually yeah rouge blanc ain't ever getting used

[swift mango]

Because crown+Naga is meta.... Even vs behemoth no reason to invest in something else when Naga can heal just fine

[coarse lake]

bc rouge crown is always better

[swift mango]

Tia+Naga on the other hand isn't

[coarse lake]

tia naga is straight powercrept by crown naga

so in a sense yeah, even less likely to be used than rouge

well regardless, you'll see crown in campaign 99.99% of the time

[swift mango]

Rouge+Blanc is honestly only if you use Cindy.

Other wise grave, tia+Naga combo be better.

Because you could use them with Liter...

[coarse lake]

rouge crown > rouge blanc is the thing

blanc, noir and tia realistically ain't ever seeing the light of day in campaign

in raid everyone's good

[swift mango]

Well he wanted to keep his Blanc and not using crown and didn't have crown from what I understand

[coarse lake]

oh ok

[gaunt viper]

huh? who?

[coarse lake]

rouge blanc vs tia naga would depend on content and what your flex dps is gonna provide

oh he does have crown

just... not using it

self-bricking

8/8/8 crown beats blanc noir in buffs easily

[gaunt viper]

yeah at 2 OL and 8/8/8

I never knew what was the best comp with her for pve

[swift mango]

Just use her with liter or any b1 cdr... And Naga or not, doesn't matter

[gaunt viper]

I just don't have rouge is my issue, not crown 😅

[swift mango]

OL all crown equip and you are good man..

[gaunt viper]

so something like Liter/Crown/RH/Modernia/Naga?

also I can make crown 10/10/10 if needed

[swift mango]

There your meta team...

[gaunt viper]

well I could use Cindy or SBS but wouldn't know who to replace other than modernia whose good for pve

[gaunt viper]

what squad do you use with that? cause I don't think there's healing there unless you use Naga or something 🤔

[coarse lake]

it's assuming you don't need naga heals

honestly you still wouldn't do rouge crown in campaign

[gaunt viper]

ah, gotcha

[coarse lake]

liter crown naga is still the support core even with cindy

[gaunt viper]

would you say Cindy is worth fully investing for pve then over someone like Modernia or SBS that are already?

[coarse lake]

rh, alice, mod are your pve priority

[gaunt viper]

and Alice

[coarse lake]

after that is cindy bscar, they are the elemental specialists, use them if they have ele adv, otherwise not really worth

[gaunt viper]

thank you for the advice, I greatly appreciate it. I've been bouncing between do i overhaul my pve team or not with Cindy or something since she's good

I suppose ill reset skills on Noir and put her at budget lvls

[swift mango]

That's because Cindy isn't campaign Core unit so not many bother to max out Rouge just for her lol

[gaunt viper]

so that's the only time you would really want to use Cindy then is with Rouge?

or at least best anyway

[swift mango]

Rouge need Cindy to be relevant. Cindy doesn't need Rouge to be relevant.

[gaunt viper]

alright that makes a lot of sense now, cause I mainly just saw rouge being used in Raid so I wasn't sure what the combo was exactly otherwise

[brittle hill]

What's the calculation site where you can see burst gen stats?

[granite anchor]

scroll down the pins till you see burst gen calc

[upper grove]

I ditched my 3 RL team for a stat pad team with 4 RL while increasing my 3rd team by 15%.
4RL 2.5RL and 3RL each. Now my total def teams are 560k instead of barely 500k. It seems to work as a deterrent

[umbral crown]

Waow

[vapid lake]

Big numbers scare new players away until they learn how to pvp

Also rmb to kill someone 30 sec before maint starts for 4 hours of chips

[raven plover]

[loud sonnet]

[gaunt viper]

I should've thought of that I'm in 2nd which isn't bad but I didn't think about it like that

too big brain 4 me

[vapid lake]

It also stops the people below you from hitting you becuz you're in combat in case they are thinking the same thing lmao

[umbral crown]

My rival got 321 boost and thought C7 cindy will keep him safe

[raven plover]

[umbral crown]

🎈

[grizzled bone]

🎈

[umbral crown]

This was the first time in 9 months someone tried to snipe me and won but did not count i was checking

He does not gem and used his 2 attempts, wonder if he will

[vapid lake]

Next time he'll be 341 as he opens his wallet

[umbral crown]

That might be true

2 days ago he was 317

I wonder his reaction aftet maint when he see he is still C2

im ready to gem

[limber patrol]

need pvp teams. (Nikke are in order of combat power)

[wicked burrow]

can you help me with rookie arena thats what I use for both attack and def

[eager mountain]

the team u running is prob one of the best u can get, tho u need 4 lv7 quantum cube to reach 2rl against some teams running rosa or full rl/sr
swap noah noise order or noah jackel order might help in specific senario

[wicked burrow]

thanks

[eager mountain]

im actually running a similar comp in lv400+ rookie on defense and its actually better than i thought

[graceful grotto]

technically soda bunny is not the best since she feed jackal (centi is much better burst gen wise), but since she's your highest CP it's kinda hard to swap her out in this scenario, what is the CP range of your competitor lineup?

[wicked burrow]

220-300k

I can win against average not pvp focused teams

but for example I lose against this guy

[graceful grotto]

alice b3, that's pretty rare

[wicked burrow]

also who should burst

noise or jackal

[graceful grotto]

i would say noise burst is much better

[wicked burrow]

okay

[bleak latch]

ancient alice pvp

[zenith ferry]

Whoops..
Hey guys I’m doing SP Arena for the first time and I’m confused with the three atk and three def team style format. Hoping someone could help explain or give some sample team comps since all I see are “make a scarlet team” and then multiple variations of it etc

[swift mango]

No wonder no one hitting me today. Maintenance...

[bleak latch]

i want some peaceful time too but he ain't let that happen

https://tenor.com/view/cat-on-fire-sitting-edited-on-fire-fire-gif-17645117

[swift mango]

Well only he is hitting you so you should be fine

Just out login him

[bleak latch]

welp luckily i kinda know his schedule so i'll just awake around later he attack me and get my position back everyday

but it's tiresome i has to shuffle my defense everyday

[keen marsh]

Bro any advice for my PvP def team (Im always getting attacked)

[swift mango]

SP is pretty much beat their 2rd-3rd strongest team with your 1st-2nd strongest team.

Things like Scarlet are often stuck because you could just wipe their weaker team with her.

Deal Shift up: Today I came to farm helm and I got my 8th missile defender helm, 7th pligrim defender helm plus 5th missiles Defender helm. Can I exchange them all for a Tetra Defender helm?

[west briar]

can you guys build 3 team for pvp pls

[late tiger]

Based on forward guidance, pve and resource management

Noah, Biscuit, Cinderella, Pepper, Laplace

Poli, M.Privaty, Anis, Rosanna, Maiden

Blanc, Liter, Ein, Harran, Crown

In that order

[swift mango]

Moran+pepper+Neon+Anis+Cindy (3rl)

Noah+Alice+Zwei+Biscuit+B.Soda (3rl)

Maiden+Blanc+Liter/Rossanna+Crown+Harran (basically flex with what's left)

(Haha nvm me just posting this 1 minute later.)

[toxic bobcat]

I just got jackal recently, who can i replace her with?

[lusty pelican]

hi can i ask for a team to win this? rookie arena(assume i have all units)

[swift mango]

Moran+Zwei+Centi+Cindy+Maiden

Alice+Blanc+Ein+Anis+Jackal

Noise+Privaty+Grave+Drake+Rumani

[lusty pelican]

@swift mango can i ask for some advice?

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

the gem warriors

[tropic summit]

seems like a job case for blanc/emilia teams

you already tried those?

[lusty pelican]

i have cp deficit btw

this didnt work

[cinder siren]

Should i replace summer Sakura with asuka?

[tropic summit]

hmm in case of CP deficit on rookie the average tip would be "fight anyone else for your daily income"

although if you really wanna try beating them, you gonna have a harder time

[lusty pelican]

ooo alrightt

[tropic summit]

both aren't amazing for pvp, although out of the two sakura is slightly better due to multi hit on different targets, while asuka can get taunted

[toxic bobcat]

ooo thanks

[swift mango]

753580*0.846=637528.68

You are barely not in deficit.

[lusty pelican]

aw dam.. but i lost that its ok..

[swift mango]

I'm bad at dealing with Noah because I just Blanc+Emilia them... So I learned hard lesson to not put out advise that doesn't work lol.

But you could count on Agent Eon for that if he had the time.

[lusty pelican]

ooki thanks anyways dood

[swift mango]

But I think you should try S.Anis if she is strong enough. Noah's Taught really hurt SBS damage.

Ofc you need to be over 638knfirst haha.

[lusty pelican]

okay

tysmm TT

[glad meteor]

If you’re willing to experiment a little

• Noah biscuit emilia redhood jackal

• Noah sanis biscuit redhood jackal

A little weird

• Noah sanis biscuit noise jackal (noise more charge speed than noah)

Weird 2.0 (Untested)

• Noise noah centi cindirella jackal (noah more charge speed than noise) noise jackal linked. This one is weird. Expects cindy nuke to go through noah since we assume we are 1 rl faster

Would appreciate a video of fight if possible

[lusty pelican]

i used all attempts today, i will try this tmr and letchu know

thanks alot mang

[glad meteor]

Hope it works

[lusty pelican]

😭

[swift mango]

Remember to check for deficit.

Your/his need to be higher than 0.846.

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Common way to beat it is

Blanc+Emilia+RH+Biscuit+Jackal.

With Emilia having lower HP than RH

But I doubt you have that team invested or else you would have beat him already.

[lusty pelican]

okkki

[grizzled bone]

🎈

[swift mango]

Alice+Blanc+Asuka+Centi+Jackal (try to equip Asuka with Vigor and more HP than Alice if still lower, put Asuka to p1) 3rl

Noise+S.anis+Bay+Rumania+Tia. 3rl

Moran+Dorothy+Grave+Anis+Cindy. 4rl

[rocky charm]

hello fellow commanders, could I get some help with building teams for the SP arena?

[lime crystal]

hi I am rookie and need some advice of building PvP teams for both arenas

[graceful grotto]

notable pvp units for you are:

B1: Liter, Rumani, Noise, Rapunzel, Moran, Pepper, Tia
B2: Centi, Blanc, Noah, Biscuit, Viper
B3: Cinderella, Laplace, Noir, Ein, Sugar

if you wanna build up units for pvp, can consider building those that are relevant in PVE as well so it helps boosting your progress on both side

units such as

B1: Liter, Tia, Noise
B2: Blanc, Biscuit
B3: Cinderella, Ein, Noir

[graceful grotto]

T1 - Scarlet-Blanc-Red Hood-Noir-Jackal [3RL]
T2 - Noah-Noise-Centi-Cinderella-Rapunzel [3RL]
T3 - Tia-Pepper-Biscuit-S.Anis-Rumani [3RL]

[grizzled bone]

Might want to move Biscuit in that T3

[graceful grotto]

like this better?

[grizzled bone]

Less chance for splash

[graceful grotto]

[echo ferry]

What's the counter for a Noise-Viper-Cinderella-Scarlet-Noah defense?

[glad meteor]

Someone cooking viper treasure

[grizzled bone]

Yeah looks like viper treasured

[coarse lake]

scar jack them

[grizzled bone]

@umbral crown this you?

[coarse lake]

or indom bscar rh them

[fathom rock]

@grizzled bone ch5 on the line, would I be correct in T2 never bursting and T1 being slow, I've lost before due to rh getting off her b1b2b3

How do I counter T1 just emilia burst?

Or this would do?

[umbral crown]

not me, my viper+ is with moran

[coarse lake]

beat t1 with noah biscuit, stall out rh in case they ever do it

[sterile latch]

Hello fellow commanders! Can some one recommend teams for Rokkie arena and SP Arena. This is my roster

[coarse lake]

then scar jack their t2

[fathom rock]

So you see I'm scarletless

[coarse lake]

just 3rl double buff nuke with jackal t2 then

[fathom rock]

Sbs jackal works?

[coarse lake]

cindy will do the job fine

yeah sbs/blanc/rh/centi/jackal works

they burst in uh..... approx 8 rl, so as long as indom lands properly you got plenty of time to kill

[fathom rock]

Biscuit noah dies on deficit

[grizzled bone]

Correct t2 will basically never burst or its slow enough to not show up as such in calculator

[fathom rock]

[grizzled bone]

This is better. Make sure the speed is correct

[tropic summit]

@swift mango the fish took the bait, although i doubt it will last long

[fathom rock]

Shi

[tropic summit]

did you record by any chance?

[fathom rock]

So noah didn't stall enough, forgot to record

[tropic summit]

aight nvm

[worthy knoll]

Its on penalty

[glad meteor]

19% deficit

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

although standing up to whales gives you honor

[fathom rock]

I got it up to 327k ig still penalty?

[tropic summit]

aye, just multiply your score x100 then divide for enemy score

[glad meteor]

OL Doll Gear diff

[umbral crown]

yes

use : your cp / enemy cp -1

[worthy knoll]

It must be at least 338k

[glad meteor]

339k plus

[tropic summit]

(323x100)/399=80,9 = 19% deficit

[fathom rock]

[tropic summit]

you tried 🙃

[glad meteor]

I multiply higher score by 0.85 most the time since I’m lazy

[tropic summit]

yeah that's an option too

whatever is faster to ppl brain works

[wicked horizon]

Do I win this one? 🤔

[tropic summit]

you are aware you've no B1 right?

that's a lot of yolo in a single picture

[wicked horizon]

Neither will they

[worthy knoll]

Its prolly the same for enemy

[umbral crown]

auto and hope for the best

[worthy knoll]

Assuming you could kill them quick.. but i think you will lose

[tropic summit]

reasonably speaking, 2 of their shotguns will shot cindy

and cindy is tanky enough to live

[wicked horizon]

Okay, assuming they don't get to burst - will I win?

[worthy knoll]

P1

[tropic summit]

leaves crown, modernia and alice shoting on p1?

[worthy knoll]

SG only hit P5 when defending

[tropic summit]

so the rule on attack is sniper hits p5?

[worthy knoll]

Yeah

[tropic summit]

ok so 4 ppl on p1 and 1 on p5, might actually kill d wife 🤔

[glad meteor]

If emi strong she can carry

[wicked horizon]

I did not win.

[glad meteor]

And level diff

[umbral crown]

si

[wicked horizon]

But they indeed didn't get to burst.

[tropic summit]

yes, made a point at least

but eh, you didn't have anything else to use? at all? 🤔

[wicked horizon]

8RL team with a B1 ain't any better than one with no B1.

[tropic summit]

makes sense

tia has a very limited use and your current lineups don't really benefit replacing any for her

among those?

[grizzled bone]

sorry Retro i didn't see your cp diff, I just looked at the line up while I was working

[tropic summit]

you could:

scarlet blanc RH jackal noah, scarlet should be linked
noah noise cindy jackal biscuit

to give you 2 variations

jackal buff links with the 2 highest atk%

sharing damage = tankier and feeds burst gen

[fathom rock]

No problems, I'll be back on reset
Will so ping you when my friend need pvp advice

[tropic summit]

imagine being able to increase of 20k CP within 24h

still not deficit at least

[grizzled bone]

i would blanc-scar

[half grail]

Who’s an alternative to Pepper for pvp?

[tropic summit]

you mean in terms of B1 burst or the heals or the clip SG?

[half grail]

B1 burst

[tropic summit]

an option with far less burst gen would be rosanna

[half grail]

Ahh okay nvm I should ol my pepper then just seeing the cooking options

[tropic summit]

she does pretty well as dmg source, heals and burst gen afterall

[glad meteor]

Zwei or rumani

[half grail]

Just don’t have rescources rn

Pepper makes my CP low for the team

[glad meteor]

Zwei is a little lower though

[half grail]

Yeah I didn’t touch those characters I still need Romani

[limber patrol]

Wdym rl?

[tropic summit]

number of rocket shots to hit burst

it's a way to calculate how teams are reaching burst in terms of time

generally a fight may be decided by the one who hits it first or when you hit it

[limber patrol]

3rl good or bad?

[tropic summit]

that depends a lot of the enemy opponents and enemy RL, but it is generally advisable to have at least 3RL

[limber patrol]

Can I beat a Noah team with that?

[tropic summit]

if noah hits burst II, she'll give whole team invulnerability for 3s, if your nuke comes out at that moment, it gets nullified

so that's something you need to keep in mind

[limber patrol]

Do you think you can make a 2rl team or I don't have the options?
I just need 2 good teams to invest on

[tropic summit]

here's a concrete example:

[brazen ledge]

@half grail note that Rosanna needs a lot of investment to get to her full potential

A bit like alice needs charge speed and max ammo

[half grail]

Yeah I know that

[brazen ledge]

But really a lot

[grizzled bone]

Rookie

Noise-Centi-Scar/Cindy-Poli-Jackal [3RL]

I am hesitant to suggest anything for SPA that would be relative to you and would make any significant changes

[brazen ledge]

I believe it’s 7/10/10 with at least ever overloaded pieces with atk substat

[umbral crown]

2 levels tho

[polar echo]

The peace was finally broken:

[tropic summit]

then the answer is but one

[polar echo]

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-schwarzenegger-prepare-war-gif-6743424214607568614

[frozen mist]

@normal tinsel now today seemed personal 😛

[glad meteor]

I scratched the emi team off. Enemy Noah in p2 will push you to 2RL and her nuke will be blocked, could just lose to scar s2

[umbral crown]

those names look similar to my rivals

[umbral crown]

if you global, can you show me your top in your bracket

and also if you can PelG teams

[tropic summit]

inb4 same guy but 2 diff. accounts

[umbral crown]

well old rivals