pvp-arena

[brazen ledge]

Ok

[swift mango]

If you lose like 15% team CP from that you could reconsider Alice.

[loud sonnet]

How many atk does cindy need for her not to require buffers?

[coral matrix]

I'm still using an older meta (noise, old Rapunzel, Noah, red hood, pepper) has the thing change much?

meta* not thing?

[swift mango]

It's defend on what you face honestly. If you face attacker equipping bastion of sth, barely invested would be enough. If you face defense team with Noise/Moran and tempering cube, max doll? Even maxed out Cindy won't be enough.

[swift mango]

They are still pretty much Meta. But new units bring more burst Regen and damage. The pvp core defense options havent changed much since biscuit.

[coral matrix]

thx

[swift mango]

Bay is new addition but just a worse Noah.

[valid fern]

is Bunny Soda a good Scarlet cope

[swift mango]

Yeah. She is like Maiden 2.0.

But there are better damage options.

[copper creek]

For the purpose of Arena play use her as you would a burst gen unit (clip SG).
I do not advise to rely on her nuke.

[swift mango]

She doesn't need to be put is s1 like maiden. But still Clip SH.

[valid fern]

who are the other non-scarlet nukes

[swift mango]

Maid Privaty

[copper creek]

cinderella, emilia, m.priv, rei.a, quency: escape queen

[swift mango]

Is the non scarlet closest to Scarlet.

[copper creek]

any of the 5 i would pick over boda

[swift mango]

Similar Regen, similar nuke, similar element.

[valid fern]

I see, thanks.

[swift mango]

Cindy is the strongest nuke right now but behave much different to Scarlet.

[copper creek]

anyway in the context of sp.a def - if no scarlet, so be it, just -
cinderella fast nuke
s.anis
(low sync) cp gap squad / (high sync) emilia nuke squad

[valid fern]

btw this rapunzel skill. can it target herself?

[swift mango]

Yes

[valid fern]

welp, I gotta upgrade Cindy's gear then.

[ancient folio]

be fr brooo

[empty shuttle]

Oh. So ally means all 5 not just the other 4?

I always though it was only the other 4

[ruby iris]

So around two weeks ago I started to lose too many defenses so I changed my teams (I managed to keep top 2-3), but this pvp season they are starting to win against these teams as well... Can I improve them? All three can win but SAnis's one might be the one falling behind

[woven acorn]

can anyone help me build sp arena team for attack and defense?

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/draco-malfoy-harry-potter-mewing-mew-slytherin-gif-8263298459687914233

[ruby iris]

This is my box

[brisk lily]

Should i swap blanc and noah? Also any other placement advise is appreciated

[quick lake]

Blanc Biscuit RH Anis Centi
Jackal Noah Cindy SAnis SSakura

Would probably move SAnis to ur 3rd team

or Even do Blanc Biscuit SAnis Anis Centi

RH gets hard countered by Biscuit

[brisk lily]

It kinda bricks my cp since these 4 make up 60-70% of the cp, as pairs in their respective team. Guess gotta work on supports ol gears

[quick lake]

Yep! Then as it is is fine

[brisk lily]

Thank you!

[quick lake]

I would suggest your 3 pvp teams be centered arond
RH 1 team
Cindy 1 team
SAnis 1 team

[swift mango]

Or don't equip Rapunzel head

Or upgrade Cindy doll but no doll on Rapunzel.

[valid fern]

ive already OL'd and dolled Rapu. Its fine tho. Cindy atk is higher now after two helmet upgrades.

[swift mango]

It probably won't be enough when your level getting higher but she could still get that buff if it triggered during burst.

[little oak]

Why is sanis so good in PvP? Does she have high burst gen

[graceful grotto]

Decent burst gen, she's a SG but not clip

Shes good cause her burst needs two taunters to nullify, just one taunter is not enough to safeguard from her

[little oak]

So it’s not a good idea to use both Cinderella and her in the same team then since u want her to burst

[graceful grotto]

Technically unless it's for CP, it's much better to use clip SG if you're running Cindy for better burst gen

[whole shell]

Yes

[graceful grotto]

Like noir, Drake, maiden, Bunny soda

[little oak]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-i-see-think-thinking-pondering-gif-4994872

[umbral crown]

Do you

[glad meteor]

If comp is still 3RL then it’s fine, cindirella can act as a pseudo taunter against sanis

[swift mango]

You could use S.Anis to buff Cindy a little. But generally yeah, not much reason to use them together.

[wild patio]

Before 361

After

[eternal finch]

Updated roster. Looking for recommendations for SP DEF please.

[swift mango]

Still same rank though.

[swift mango]

You have pretty much everything so just copy pasta Keripo teams dude. Why bother ask here lol? Too lazy to worry about. Just search the pin.

[pearl bloom]

let's try again...can i have a team atk def please

[eternal finch]

because, community helped a lot before. 🤷‍♂️

Also, don't know if those ahve been updated wht the latest meta so was wondering if anynthing new had come out

[ancient folio]

Need 3 full sp arena teams😭

[umbral crown]

when C1

[swift mango]

Grave+Centi+Scarlet+Anis+Jackal.

Noah+Biscuit+Rossanna(upgrade her s2 as much as you could)+Cindy+Noir

Auto flex team.

[pearl bloom]

Thanks a lot

[visual brook]

Moran - Biscuit - Anis - SAnis - Pepper
Scarlet - Lapplace - XAnna - Liter - Jackal
Noah - Centi - Ruman - Cindy - Noir

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/bobby-hill-king-of-the-hill-no-thanks-disappointed-gif-6146201255874252389

[umbral crown]

EnDi cooking

[pearl bloom]

and if i want to team up with moran?

[swift mango]

Who you want to team with Moran?

[pearl bloom]

those of my box..I admit that I do not know the synergies

[swift mango]

Moran+Noah+Cindy+Biscuit+Noir

[pearl bloom]

Thank you and if I want to make a team with grave what would you advise me? After that I don't ask any more

[swift mango]

Team 1 is already with Grave

[pearl bloom]

OK, thanks a lot!

[swift mango]

It's a 2RL Scarlet Nuke. Need to Invest in grave a bit so she has 2nd highest ATK in the team. (Not hard consider the rest are just defender aside from Scarlet)

[swift mango]

Eh sorry I would go for the Moran team.

Noah+Cindy+Biscuit+Noir+Moran.

[visual brook]

Why is Noah here if Moran is good at dealing with Nuclear attackers without her?
Instead, I would put the "battery" Anise with SAnis. A Biscuit will give vampirism.

[swift mango]

I mean I only built 2 teams. And he want Moran.

[pearl bloom]

And i dont have noah

[visual brook]

@swift mango It's your fault.

[swift mango]

Lol guess I need to redo from scratch

[swift mango]

My fault what? He has lots of non pvp Nikke at high invested, a flex team should be the best to win with Auto attack unless I want to waste half an hour to including them.

[visual brook]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-fat-thor-thor-odinson-godof-thunder-thunderer-gif-14341833

[pearl bloom]

so...is my case too desperate to have good arena teams?

[swift mango]

No I will redo

[visual brook]

You can prepare 2 teams, and the last one will be from NIKKE with a high CP

[pearl bloom]

yes of curse. i just need two team anyway

[swift mango]

Moran+Pepper+Grave+Centi+Cindy

Scarlet+Blanc+Liter+Anis+Jackal.

Auto flex team.

[visual brook]

Don't despair, there are the best minds online right now who will come up with something.

[pearl bloom]

I dont have Peppers...

[visual brook]

https://tenor.com/view/draco-malfoy-harry-potter-mewing-mew-slytherin-gif-8263298459687914233

[swift mango]

Moran+Grave+Centi+Cindy+Noir

Scarlet+Blanc+Liter+Anis+Jackal.

Auto flex team.

[pearl bloom]

Is Good tanks you!

[swift mango]

I think I keep slipping today...

[visual brook]

I'll be back in 5 minutes and then we'll continue

[swift mango]

Urw and my bad for keeping put down units u don't have. Sorry.

[visual brook]

I'm having a brain storm right now

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/417250309107351565/1047131530008469514/b46-unscreen.gif

What is the energy generation of the "free" Rapunzel?

[swift mango]

A bit worse than other SR last I checked the table.

2.55 vs 2.8 a hit.

[quick pivot]

Been a while since I updated my Defense Teams in SP. Anything I can switch around with the units I have now? (No I don't have the Drunklet/Rapunzel :< )

[coral orbit]

sorry if this is asked alot
is their like a guide for creating SP defence teams ?

[visual brook]

@swift mango I'm getting scared. Are you writing the fifth volume about war and peace???

[swift mango]

Scarlet+Blanc+Dorothy+Noir+Jackal (quantum cube on Jackal, lv1 enough)

Moran+Grave/Exia+Centi+Anis+Cindy.

Exia/Grave+Naga+Rossanna(upgrade her s2 skill)+Alice+Crown

I tried to make 3 team for you.

[swift mango]

Nah I'm just having too much time for nothing.

[swift mango]

Idk about guide but

Try to pack in as many CP as possible while still reaching 3RL speed or faster.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1JUiiuHysG3vlWRPVx_wT6zUwkc5Ob9n8G0azCbuwlA8/htmlview#

Read skills to know how to position them right, this is trial and practice. Everything hit s1, SG hit s5.

[swift mango]

T1: Replace Tia with SBS and do SBS+Blanc+RH+Flex

T2: Replace Vesti with Drake.

Team 3: Replace M.Privaty with Cindy.

[coral orbit]

thanks
i think i get the general idea
goal is to have 3 teams which fits 2RL / 5SG / 3RL energy gen
while also using defensive strong units like jackal

Correct me if i am wrong

[visual brook]

SBS - Blans - RH - Noir - Jackal
Moran - Centi - Biscuit - SAnis - Laplace(Treasure)
Noah - Anis - Cindy - MPrivaty - Noise

[quick pivot]

Not at that level of investment for most of the units, but will keep this in mind

[swift mango]

3rl and 3.5RL is fine. The goal is to push as many CP as possible to that gap with your PvE units, unless you have everything built.

[quick pivot]

For T1 should I put them in that specific order?

[swift mango]

Well, yes, if SBS die Blanc with buff RH, your old team stop if Blanc died.

[tropic summit]

and then there's 1.5RL, with the emilia perfectly balanced burst gen

[swift mango]

And you could try Endi's teams. Just the 2nd isn't 3rl.

[quick pivot]

Laplace is at Phase 12 purple doll and gobbling all my kits X_X Once I get her treasure I will give that a go

[visual brook]

funny joke

[coral orbit]

well i am still lvl 120 synchro
so cubes and gears and skills are a bit iffy

got it , higher Cp is better

[swift mango]

Look at your suggestion again. It's not the one in the pic

[visual brook]

oops

Wait...

[swift mango]

I just fixed their team to 3RL. And with meta DPS that's all.

[visual brook]

I think this speed is enough to compete with other teams

[pearl bloom]

I think I'll give up but thanks anyway...

[visual brook]

Quant cube on Pepper and Laplace

There is another option

Team is a little weaker, but faster

[swift mango]

Sorry again, team 3 would be 4 RL with Cindy. To fix that, you could replace Liter with Dorothy and put Quantum on Anis and Jackal.

[quick pivot]

Isn't Liter SMG ._.

[swift mango]

Just move Anis from t1 down man. T1 can be 3 RL easily without her.

I mean Centi

[swift mango]

Replace Centi with SBS and do SBS+Blanc+RH+Noir+Jackal is 3rl.

[umbral crown]

Start resending your nikkes,at nikke tab on lobby, in-game settings > nearby > horizonal if on mobile and sort by power only

[swift mango]

Yes. Dorothy is AR and Regen as good as Scarlet.

[umbral crown]

its better horizontal to suggest the teams

[swift mango]

Liter+Crown+Cindy is just to slow for 2 Clip RL to save.

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Liter burst isn't useful in Cindy team anyway.

[swift mango]

My bad Dorothy Regen much worse than Scarlet.

But still better than liter

[umbral crown]

but doro on pvp only use she has is cp padding

[pearl bloom]

I took the photos better to help you in the creation of team and I put them by powers

[swift mango]

You could also replace Crown with Naga to reach 3rl

[coral orbit]

i dont have scarlet nor maiden for Scarlet / Jackal / blanc team
Does Ein work as a replacement ?

[swift mango]

And that's more CP than replace Dorothy with crowm

[visual brook]

@quick pivot Changed

[visual brook]

Then how do you like this?

[quick pivot]

Team 2 is not invested enough yet (would see a SIGNIFICANT power drop, like, 60k). Will definitely keep this in mind for the future though, thank you!

[visual brook]

PVP is an expensive pleasure

[tropic summit]

are you sure you can use pleasure together with pvp in the same sentence? there's people literally spending their wallet to see a blue icon appearing

i question those ppl sanity daily

[quick pivot]

New proposed lineup, will have to wait a bit to put Drake in Synchro, so will keep Vesti in for now

[tropic summit]

i wouldn't put anis in p5

if they use some SGs she could get killed pre burst, she has weaker stats due to her rarity

[swift mango]

Do you have pepper? You could put her in s2 and move Noise to s5.

[quick pivot]

Pepper has no investment atm :<

[swift mango]

No need for Drake.

[tropic summit]

is team 3 hitting 3RL btw?

1 non clip sg, 1 rifle, 1 zero burst gen 🤔

[quick pivot]

I think so? According to Blood, idk, I'm kind of a sheep when it comes to pvp crafting

[tropic summit]

well blood tends to be accurate, but i'm skeptical on that one

[tropic summit]

uh interesting

[swift mango]

This is not taking into account feed

[tropic summit]

yeah better than i thought regardless, jackal doing her magic i guess

[quick pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-jackal-happy-smiling-goddess-of-victory-nikke-gif-14962849290242919828

[swift mango]

Also

[quick pivot]

My Quantum is currently Level 4

[tropic summit]

is calculator expecting level 7?

[swift mango]

4 is better than 1

7 is better than 4

I prefer crown over Naga because her shield could provide some protection.

And her burst give lots of buff to Cindy as well.

[quick pivot]

Oh, someone just tried a bit back

[quick pivot]

So Crown can go back into team 3 because Jackal is a cheat code?

[swift mango]

You could, I feel like it would be better.

But Liter+Naga could give more CP than Dorothy+Crown.

[tropic summit]

jackal has her own counters, but plays a very important role in burst gen and some specific setups

i wouldn't slow down team 3 further with crown, you kinda need jackal there to keep the 3RL

[quick pivot]

It's a difference of about... 11k atm

[tropic summit]

oh you meant crown instead of naga, then that's ok

as long as it keeps 3RL

[swift mango]

You need to put quantum on Anis and Jackal in crown case. And doesn't need in Naga case.

[quick pivot]

I always keep Quantum on Jackal Anis 😉

[swift mango]

Both work so pick whichever you want I guess.

[quick pivot]

Sounds good! Thank you for all your help!

[visual brook]

One day, L, Light Yagami and Ayanokouji walked into a bar. And they think about when to attack the enemy so that he is asleep at that time.

[umbral crown]

you could add to your sync dev Noise,Biscuit and Bay

SP Defense
Scarlet/Blanc/Liter/Noir/Jackal
Noise/Cinderella/Biscuit/Centi/Doro
Crown/Alice/Sugar/Anis/Moran

[tropic summit]

ah yes, the true cancer arena pvp experience

[pearl bloom]

Thanks!

[lone saddle]

Can you guys make me a 3 team for sp arena

[empty shuttle]

I dont know why i expected to face the game one if i wait for like 22 hours

On team3 cinder on s5 probs is the play. Idk about team 1 tho... how can i fix this?

[grizzled bone]

[swift mango]

Replace Anis with Centi or Jackal....

T3 is just so gapped that you should be ashamed if lose...

[empty shuttle]

Yeah... i tried that t1 thing and lost....

His sbs still alive and kill me

I think i need to swap jackal out for something slower

[swift mango]

You want someone strong to get over the CP gap

Want like 250k

No need clip RL even

Just put anyone there for more cp

[empty shuttle]

So basically swap anis in that image for anything with high cp

[swift mango]

SBS is good

[empty shuttle]

Is it worthy to sr doll normal anis too? I have a lot of boxes and dolls now

Ill need to wait 8 more minute until i can do attack again

[swift mango]

About you invest in pvp units man. That dude has more cp than you with lower level.

I have no sr dol to put on anis but I OL her 4/4

You don't need to do that though

[empty shuttle]

I mean... that dude is a wheel after all

[swift mango]

He is lower level than you so he is not

[tropic summit]

you can work with these:

shame you lacking on batteries, try to get centi and drake in the near future

[empty shuttle]

Oh damn. I think he actually invested in pvp a lot. His pve is quite bad for that level

[fathom rock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1143981959601717329/1305912439216406629/20241112-1509-23.0959969.mp4?ex=6734c13c&is=67336fbc&hm=526a066b0632e613544e1629be7bfcb908b68fcc90a30d842b858052d1ef93e9&

[empty shuttle]

He was 10 sync above me. Idk why he stopped

Anyway

This should work right?

[tropic summit]

you want cindy to burst or redhood to burst in team 3? because on positioning, you'll get RH to burst

if you going for wipe, you want cindy ahead of RH in positioning

as for team 1... that's a coin flip on indom landing on the right target, it should be moran the target although keep in mind the HP of your whole team when moran buffs herself

[empty shuttle]

I think my opponent team will die b4 the burst cuz of the cp so if rh burst its okay too ig

[tropic summit]

probably, just less % but you're not wrong

[empty shuttle]

So 1st team is not guaranteed? Hm.......

[tropic summit]

keep in mind blanc indom after biscuit invulrn. expires does not prevent their SBS from dealing AoE dmg

so that'd be a race between your sanis killing their dmg dealers before they kill yours

i'm not a fan of betting on indoms in these matchups tbh, i'd rather get something less RNG based

you could for example fk with their indom by having a few shotguns hitting biscuit, then indom from enemy blanc might land on biscuit while you wipe their blanc, SBS and RH in order

or even better, you kill biscuit and they don't get 2nd invulnerability...

another option for you is to outspeed wipe, you can rotate jackal and anis on 1st team, their team 3 is not only low CP but also fairly slow burst gen

[empty shuttle]

I dont think that is possible tho

[tropic summit]

they've only centi on team 1, the rest is pretty bad burst gen, with 2 clip RL you'll outspeed

[empty shuttle]

Cuz if their blanc burst then my team is over

[tropic summit]

she can burst, but you'll have killed their backline beside biscuit and blanc

(by the time they hit burst)

additionally, she won't have burst I because RH is dead

it's my opinion tho, if you feel more confident on ur current lineup go for it, it's always a lesson to be learned

[empty shuttle]

that "imo" scared me after i just changed

should be good?

[tropic summit]

let's see

[empty shuttle]

Should i do anything to increase the chance?

[tropic summit]

so what happens here is that you will hit burst first on team 1, but you're running sanis, who focuses on single target on highest atk dmg nikke, thing is here you're giving them a chance to indom lowest hp attacker, as you need to kill both SBS and RH before blanc hits burst II

you'd best have someone who can 1 shot if you taking this approach, e.g. cindy, scarlet, pmaid, ein

as for team 3, you'll hit burst near each other, rosanna might 1 shot your highest atk dmg dealer, if it's RH you lose your burst III

if it's cindy you'll wipe

[empty shuttle]

Then i should swap sanis for cindy. And then what do i do on team 3?

[tropic summit]

mind you, i'm making you think, but there's a solution

[empty shuttle]

I have advantage but im also scared of the 3 sgs

[tropic summit]

you can counter 3 sg with biscuit

she nullifies their advantage of early pressure on p5

as long as p5 is a defender, biscuit will make that defender immortal for 3sec

[empty shuttle]

so who đo i replace biscuit on t1? Naga? for little burst gen?

[tropic summit]

do you've any of the following: noah, scarlet, privaty maid, ein, noise?

[empty shuttle]

Only mpriv

Looking good?

[tropic summit]

team 3 is fine, SBS will wipe.
team 1 is gonna have a close call with burst speed, you got no more RL clips or SG clips?

[empty shuttle]

I have noir

[tropic summit]

how's CP looking replacing naga with noir?

[empty shuttle]

263k

[tropic summit]

should be good

[empty shuttle]

This is right?

[tropic summit]

the downside of cindy is that she can hit anyone during her burst, if you're unlucky she'll waste hits on blanc or centi

although the dmg is insane, so a few hits on RH and SBS will likely kill them

yeah that's fine

[empty shuttle]

So this is the final draft?

[tropic summit]

cindy just needs to not be p1 or p5 due to a known bug, so if she's p3 it's good

you don't have noise, just to confirm

correct?

[empty shuttle]

yup

[tropic summit]

in the lineup with cindy, who are the top 2 with the highest attack stat (aside jackal)?

i'm expecting noir and cindy

[empty shuttle]

Yup. 49k and 59k

[tropic summit]

then do this:

damage share will be on p1 and p5 (it makes them essentially tankier), jackal will also receive feed from taking dmg (more burst gen), you'll hit burst even faster.

cindy being p2 won't trigger the bug and take splash dmg, increased odds of receiving blanc indom (although likely it will go on jackal, which is fine on p1)

i'd say that's final draft

[empty shuttle]

alrighty. Lets go

[tropic summit]

record it if u can, so we can see if anything goes awire

[empty shuttle]

Nice. Cindy just swiped them

[tropic summit]

aighty, good job

how was the HP on jackal prior to burst?

30-40%?

[empty shuttle]

~70%

[tropic summit]

oh wow

even better than expected, they dealt no dmg at all

based on the HP bars, blanc indom would've either went to noir or jackal, if jackal it would've been the candy ontop

although you'd have already wiped them anyway

[empty shuttle]

His t3 has very slow burst gen right. Will this still work on him

[tropic summit]

that's one of the worst teams i've seen on t3

you could probably beat it with a stick

[empty shuttle]

Although jackal skill shares the dmg, its better for buffs to get into jackal? There is difference if buff get to jackal ỏr the other 2?

[tropic summit]

buffs are generally global, like RH buff or blanc buffs, the one you want to land on p1 is generally indom, which is related to the HP %

[empty shuttle]

So i basically can just use the same thing and beat him right?

[tropic summit]

you generally don't put jackal with blanc because unfortunately it leads to funny outcomes with indom selection

but in ur case it was fine due to essentially lack of noise, noah etc

yeah, your current team in t3 is more than qualified

team 1 on the other hand has a funny thing coming for you

bay will nullify hits by reflecting them on the cover

[empty shuttle]

Will his Bay do something/

[tropic summit]

yep

although with cindy against bay i've little experience, it SHOULD, not work as good as against a scarlet or pmaid, as cindy does a multi hit kind of burst

[empty shuttle]

So just to make sure, same team, battle, win. Right

[empty shuttle]

Thats a relief cuz i dont think ill get any of them soon

[tropic summit]

hmm

i'd take a few safety measure and add a bit of burst gen on team 1

as their t3 won't need you to have high burst gen

[radiant cliff]

Best Pve team?

[tropic summit]

i'll finish a round of kraken and get back to you @empty shuttle we can fix that lineup to increase the odds

[radiant cliff]

And PvP?

[empty shuttle]

So i swap noir with centi? I kinda want Blanc on Cindy team cuz i dont think my Cindy has enough dmg

[tropic summit]

that is a good point

[empty shuttle]

Alrighty. Ill just auto the kraken. I can only get to s4 anyway

But then waht does biscuit do on team3

[tropic summit]

yep, we can use them better

almost done

[empty shuttle]

I dont know Kraken usually takes this long

[tropic summit]

making the lineup atm

[empty shuttle]

Alrighty. My bad

[swift mango]

Bay can only take one hit on cover. Cindy does 10 hits.

Basically Bay annihilation.

[tropic summit]

well this tip makes it drastically easier

@empty shuttle i'd go with this

cindy is against bay's team, the 2nd team will wipe their filler team

[swift mango]

Idk if Centi burst could hit Bay's cover if burst at same 3rl. If that so, it could even better.

[empty shuttle]

Yeah thats what im doing but biscuit doesnt seem to do anything

[tropic summit]

biscuit can be filled with any clip SG or clip RL if you got any spare, else any high CP unit

not sure what else you got so i just reused what u showed

RH burst II is kinda a poor choice so don't let her burst on II if possible

[empty shuttle]

Lemme grab my bracket real quick

I cannot search message from people anymore?

[tropic summit]

keep in mind their t3 has no burst gen and no taunter, also won't hit burst before u do, which is gameover regardless

[swift mango]

I got a funny situation today when Blanc Indom on full HP Biscuit at slot 4 just because I leveled up and putting Rumani at slot 1.

So I upgraded her HP and Blanc hit Emilia at full health instead.

Guess I just got a new god comp for myself.

[tropic summit]

indom on emilia is disgusting

[swift mango]

Even better if Emilia at s3 so no worry of dying.

[tropic summit]

yeah... truly broken

u're forced to noah that shit or get the right indom on a carry

[empty shuttle]

This is what i have left for b2

[tropic summit]

can put naga at that point

[empty shuttle]

Naga is slower than biscuit right/

[final tendon]

Interesting

[tropic summit]

yes, non clip SG against non clip RL, the RL is slightly faster

you can put the highest CP, it still won't matter too much, both will work

[empty shuttle]

So what makes i want to swap to naga tho

Oh right. I have naga at 20k more cp

[tropic summit]

yeah that

[swift mango]

9/10 your Blanc hit Centi lol

Nah make it 10/10

[empty shuttle]

This is correct right?

[tropic summit]

oh because they had 2 SGs

noir shot centi, centi dropped as lowest HP, blanc goes to centi, RIP indom

[swift mango]

Also Anis

[tropic summit]

ye looks good, go get em

[empty shuttle]

Nice. It didnt look as easy as the last one but it worked

I doubt that i can make a defense team that can defense neither of them. They can just scarlet 1 team and strongest on another one :/

[tropic summit]

hmm you lacking unfortunately a few batteries and noah/emilia do help a lot on def teams

keep in mind climbing nevertheless is a good thing, see what opponents u can handle on def and then pick your targets accordingly

[final tendon]

I didn’t watch all the way but wdym? I didn’t realize I’d get clapped like that lol this guy finally changed teams

[empty shuttle]

Who am i lacking of? I assume Noah and scarlet. What else? Emilia is no worry cuz i started during 1.5 anni

[tropic summit]

your lineup lead to blanc casting indom on p5 instead of p2

[tropic summit]

ah good for you then, you won't miss out on that broken shit

but yeah then just noah and rumani, scarlet would be a good plus but as you got pmaid and cindy you can make do

[final tendon]

Ahhhhhhhhhhh

Whoops

Is it just a matter of changing my positioning?

[tropic summit]

if you had indom on laplace or RH you might've wiped back even if rest of nikke died to cindy

you'd have 10 seconds immortality on a carry, essentially

generally it's enough to pick them off 1 by 1, unless the team has sustain or indom on their own

(they don't, although they got noise healing)

the reason your blanc indom went to p5 is because their SG at start of round aim to p5, making centi lowest HP for the team and target of blanc

you'd need to reconsider your plan here, either you wipe their team before they do, or arrange the team to survive with either indom or noah burst, for example

[final tendon]

I switched it so lappy would burst thinking she’d do better but I should have kept RH b1 and then b3ing but that’s good insight ty!

I forgot but is the SG spread random or consistent at p5?

[brazen ledge]

hi, here noise is dying too fast, how can i fix that ? (i can't even burst)

[hazy wave]

help with teams in rookie arena and sp arena pls!!

[tropic summit]

at start of round, all SGs will aim first 2 shots on p5

hence why p5 can be bursted early if not careful

[final tendon]

ok that’s good to know

I think I had a decent shot at 3rd place but now I think I should hopefully end up 4-6

[tropic summit]

it's a difference of 300 gems, don't sweat too much about it, down the road it's unfortunately likely a whale will take over first 2-3 slots

and probably will sit there until they quit

[brazen ledge]

.

[tropic summit]

against which team/lineup?

[brazen ledge]

tried against many teams, it always ends up like that

[tropic summit]

noise is squishy until you hit burst, you might want to get tia to tank the early dmg and move noise to p2

[final tendon]

Yeah today is the first day I sit at 7 all day unless I refreshed but I’m not tryna spend gems just to experiment

[tropic summit]

although you got noah, might aswell move noah to p1 noise p2 and tia p5

[brazen ledge]

so if i put tia first, she'll take the dmg and then noise will ?

and why noah p5 here ?

[tropic summit]

specifically, p2 will take splash damage from rockets, p1 will take ANY shot, p5 will take first few shots from SGs, which will then hit p1

in terms of survivability, noah will do better than noise early, so you can put her in p1

[brazen ledge]

ok thx i understand

ill try with tia in P1 and if thats not enough ill put noah

but if noah dies thats still the end so may not wanna risk it

[tropic summit]

yeah that's a safe choice, worst case scenario you'll lose tia, but you'll hit burst with noise for massive healing and HP boost

[brazen ledge]

i go 4/1/4 on noise right ?

tyvm btw

[brazen ledge]

nah i don't have that kind of ressources for pvp atm

i did sanis at 10/10/9 that was painful

[tropic summit]

if you wanna avoid screwing yourself early, only invest up to 3/3/3

it's generally low cost

but early pvp also doesn't matter too much, especially rookie

[brazen ledge]

its for sp

[tropic summit]

oh oke, then up to you

[brazen ledge]

im just low cp bc i can't go past this damn 160 wall on this account

[tropic summit]

maybe first see how far you can get as is, if you can stay around ranks 4-9 CH or at least consistent dia1, it's a wooping 2100-2400-2700 gems (per season)

[brazen ledge]

i can't

[tropic summit]

oh i'm all too familiar with that, my first account got fked hard when i played back years ago, made a new one around moran patch, went far luckier

[brazen ledge]

ppl are at 400k cp bc they got past the 160 wall

[brazen ledge]

i got 2 accounts atm, my second one is far past lvl 160 but i have more than 1300 pulls on this one and still not 5 mlb

its rly sad

[tropic summit]

that's gacha with no pity unfortunately

[brazen ledge]

ye

btw as we talk, could you do new teams for my other account since metas have shifted apparently with cindy pls

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

share your roster we can take a look

[swift mango]

And later on you could stop at level 5. Cost from 5-6 almost triple 4-5

[brazen ledge]

ill be doing my AI, 1 second

[swift mango]

S.Anis good for current raid and current newest boss. What are you using resource for anyway if neither raid nor Arena?

[tropic summit]

campaign perhaps, pre lvl 160 you'd generally invest in liter/crown/RH/scarlet/noir/blanc/naga

or perhaps modernia

[swift mango]

He is 359

[tropic summit]

i thought he was talking 'bout his alt, my bad

[brazen ledge]

i was talking abt my alt in 1st place, now its the main

i invest in alice, cindy, a bit on rei etc

what i have for the moment

[swift mango]

If you stopped at 160 you won't do much with any units anyway. Lol.

[brazen ledge]

ye

[hazy wave]

if were trying to ask for team comp suggestions, do we jsut drop our char boxes here?

[brazen ledge]

on my alt i did ch22 and didn't rly had time to go further, atm i try to do hard mode ch22 on the main

[brazen ledge]

thats what i do

[hazy wave]

do we need to @ anyone?

[brazen ledge]

not rly

[hazy wave]

i dropped mine earlier not sure if i need to resend or just need to wait

[brazen ledge]

you wait, try to be respectful and thats it

[hazy wave]

okok sounds good, thanks!

[swift mango]

You could @ but they could not reply. No one here be the guy who reply to @ to making team all day lol.

[tropic summit]

sometimes maybe ping it again by replying to it, sometimes ppl just go AFK and might miss it

[tropic summit]

team 2 and 3 are fairly solid, team 1 could screw up with indom due to jackal dmg share

[brazen ledge]

^what can i do abt it ?

[tropic summit]

you'd need to not combo jackal with blanc to make it a bit more consistant

you can although combo biscuit with blanc

share your full roster so we can see what could be interchanged

[brazen ledge]

i have every nikke except these ones here

[tropic summit]

long time account eh

[brazen ledge]

yes

[worthy jasper]

Could I get some recommendations on defensive (and potential offensive) setups for both SP arena and Rookie?

[swift mango]

Just equip those who you don't want Indom with Vigor cube and hope the best.

[tropic summit]

this is definitely an approach if you wanna keep jackal with blanc, it raises the odds if anything

[swift mango]

I would just equip Jackal and Alice with Vigor. And upgrade their armour to max, while keeping SBS lowest.

[tropic summit]

you can make 2 powerful teams and a less powerful team, rather than your current ones right now that split up too much, also t3 is lacking Burst I (beware Tia doesn't progress past burst I alone)

[swift mango]

You could pretty much copy the Keripo comb...

2RL scarlet

2RL Cindy

3rl S.Anis

If you aren't super competitive in PvP. I doubt you are lol.

[tropic summit]

statistically they have the highest win ratio

discard the idea you'll be unbeatable though, unless you use thy wallet

[swift mango]

Tbh they should just pin that image for older casual players coming here to say they have everything.

[tropic summit]

very true

[brazen ledge]

im not

[brazen ledge]

never im 17

[tropic summit]

good lad, don't fall for the gacha predatory schemes

[brazen ledge]

im already playing more expensive games and i have to buy a new chair

[worthy jasper]

Alrighty. What are the 2 powerful/1 less powerful team we're talking about here?

[tropic summit]

the gaming chair alone raises your odds of achieving challanger

[brazen ledge]

not gaming lol

going for the haworth fern i think

[swift mango]

At that later level where everyone run the same comp they could just CP press you with more investment and level.

[tropic summit]

you can play around cindy and scarlet, cindy is heavily burst gen hungry so you'll need a few clip RL and SGs, scarlet is far less hungrier but she'll need jackal to work best
the third can be a filler with 3RL or even 4RL, as long as it packs CP

give me a moment and i'll give you a screen

[brazen ledge]

12 YEAR WARRANTY ERGONOMIC DESKCHAIR

[brazen ledge]

for this which changes would i have to make ?

[swift mango]

You can't change any of them.

[brazen ledge]

oke

nice

[swift mango]

Mica:Snow bunny from 2RL scarlet is flexible.

Could replace with Grave for same result.

[worthy jasper]

I just got Pepper, idk if that changes anything

[brazen ledge]

shes good

[swift mango]

And tbh, 3RL S.Anis could be anything. So long as it's 3rl.

[brazen ledge]

ill have to invest in rosanna one day...

[swift mango]

And not use the clip RL for the others 2 team

[tropic summit]

oh it does, that's a good find

was just noticing how you lacked a fast burst I

[tropic summit]

you can put pepper instead of liter in team 2, until you find noise

liter can go in team 3 as filler, as she'll give a ton of CP likely if you built her

your main juice will be the first two teams until you find more meta

[worthy jasper]

Wait, you're putting scarlet and SAnis on the same team?

[tropic summit]

what you find strange about that?

[brazen ledge]

and why am i not playing cindy ??

[worthy jasper]

Thought it might be better to have SAnis and Buscuit on the same team instead

[tropic summit]

you could, it reduces dmg output on team 1

tanky teams will survive scarlet, at the risk of having your team 3 be more dependable

[brazen ledge]

the goat echo is here

[worthy jasper]

Ahh wait, I forget this is for defense. It makes much more sense actually

[tropic summit]

you want ideally at least 2 teams that can hold themselves, especially due to your limited number of meta nikke atm

[keen vapor]

Mistake teheh~

Already

[brazen ledge]

instructions unclear, i got sanis to core 8

[tropic summit]

sanis is still a worthy investiment

RAID, pvp, tower, has its uses

[brazen ledge]

im on a more tedious task atm anyways,

1st : sleep, 2nd : 22-36 hard boss

[swift mango]

Tower S.Anis+Noir 🥲

[tropic summit]

the struggle is real

[keen vapor]

But you're at wall

[tropic summit]

i've PTSD from 160 wall that i'll never recover from probably

[brazen ledge]

this was my 2nd account, im trash at pvp thats all

[swift mango]

My Terra tower team is Noise+Moran+Alice+Blanc+Noir though

[keen vapor]

Oh, ic

[brazen ledge]

(i still have some serious amount of deficit)

[swift mango]

No invest to pve Terra OL at all...

Good enough since my local group is largely inactive. Only I really climb tower. No one to chase.

[tropic summit]

oh ye same here, my server bracket had 1 guy trying with me early on, then suddenly quit, everyone else is hardly logging in anymore... 🤔

[keen vapor]

Free PVP?

[swift mango]

My bracket had 3, but now none. Only 1 whale still playing and pull but progress at snail speed and not login everyday.

Everyone are either casual of already gave up climbing.

[tropic summit]

the PvP bracket is active, just the same server ranking that is nearly dead

[swift mango]

I remember they spent to clear more than 3 Manu tower everyday just to compete to get the medal and keep the r1. But then they quitted.

[tropic summit]

in their defense, Nikke is not as appealing as other gacha in the market, at least on continuity and risk of burnout

[swift mango]

Yeah. So the 3 spender above me quitted and 1 casual spender remain. They rest also casual.

Free gold medal but still got cut by half on the Manu points by the whale lol.

In my S.Arena everyone in C1-10 got the 50 gold medal achievement but me lol.

Weird situation.

Well, I'm also the only guy without Jackal and Noah. So it's just add on.

[tropic summit]

at least you're not the only one without emilia when the top 5 challangers have her and you never will because you didn't get her on her single banner

[swift mango]

My Emilia is the highest rank in my group so pretty proud of that.

Since no whaling they do will change that in the future.

The lone Core+1 Emillia in the bracket.

[tropic summit]

actually a dude in my pvp bracket who was 30-40 levels below, is now 15 levels ahead and getting CP padding slowly, might even catch up to our current n1 whale

if you can't win by progression/activity, wallet has got your back

[copper creek]

probably just stockpiled his boxes until he had enough lol

[swift mango]

Could be the case. But then he won't raise slowly anymore if he didn't spend.

[tropic summit]

near the end of current season i'll try beating our rank 1 whaling lad

[swift mango]

No chance, would lose by normal attack.

[tropic summit]

nah it wasn't the case, it has been a steady growth since the last month and a half

[copper creek]

gg then

eh its w/e, thank them for sponsoring your gameplay 😂

[tropic summit]

haha exactly

[swift mango]

I guess that one more level could make the difference.

[tropic summit]

then again i'm happy as long as i keep around ch4-6, else i'm content even with 7-10, 2400-2100 gems is more than enough per season

[tropic summit]

yeah, as long as he doesn't get more bodies

[copper creek]

if in doubt, just fight for c1 and worry later

[swift mango]

I'm also attacking a whale 40 level above mine but only because he didn't rise his arena units much.

This dude look like her raised them well.

[tropic summit]

yeah, is probably running quantum on high levels, because last time it seemed a 2.5RL

i only beat him once and it was probably a whiff on his side

[swift mango]

With 55 level difference you have like 5 level to attack him every 20. And that's if he didn't want to make it 60.

At that point it's pointless to struggle anymore.

[tropic summit]

because of the 15% cp difference?

[swift mango]

I don't see this team reaching 2.5 RL though even with lv7 quantum. Unless your noise at s2 taunt his Noah.

[swift mango]

It's already above 15.4% in your image.

[tropic summit]

oh no wonder then that they hit like a brick

[tropic summit]

i've a vid actually hold up

[swift mango]

Maybe his Noah has 20% charge speed ot sth.

It's either of the 2.

Noah hit s2-4 or has charge speed as fast as Emilia.

So she shot 3 times in the span of 2.5 RL.

Like Emilia 21% cs

[tropic summit]

it might be just that noah hits burst in time to prevent wipe though, you might be on something, found it btw

i need to retry with the lineup i posted above, as the centi nuke might be enough to full wipe before noah kicks in (this was taken a few weeks back)

[swift mango]

Your Noah taunt his Noah. His Noah hit s2.

[tropic summit]

right, that's a thing too

that opens another approach 🤔

[swift mango]

And you only need 17% CS to make your RL hit 3 at 2.5RL.

That would make 2.5RL much easier.

[tropic summit]

hitting quantum would be ideal

or getting a bit more OL

[sinful turtle]

Can you recommend 3 squads for the Special Arena?
I need to balance at least two teams if possible.

[grizzled bone]

resend your box from the Nikke tab sorted by power please. That way no units are selected putting them out of order

[empty shuttle]

SInce i lack battery. Should i perhaps get laplace fav item?

[tropic summit]

that's a good investiment, she works great for earth weakness bosses, she performs slightly below clip SG in PvP burst gen, while also having a potentially good single target burst on her own. I'm actually using her in campaign progress aswell myself (hard mode)

keep in mind it costs quite the amount of resources to get her to that point

[empty shuttle]

Yeah. We need more Behamoth bugs

[ancient folio]

uhm wtf? are u sure?

like thx, but my first impression of that team... is... confusing

[raven plover]

hes more than sure

[copper creek]

just to add context
you never want to burst with laplace+ in pvp

[grizzled bone]

[copper creek]

not on def anyway, on atk eh

[empty shuttle]

So what make i want to use her over a clip sg 🤔

[glad glade]

Could scarlet still work at 1/1/4?

Rip

[daring finch]

how do i get another ranking here on the server?

[tidal citrus]

스페셜 아레나 방어덱 추천좀 해주세요 ㅠ 😢

Please recommend a special arena defense deck

[grizzled bone]

on the discord server?

[daring finch]

yes

[grizzled bone]

if you're talking about the Beginner badge it just means you have to talk more

[daring finch]

oh dang

[grizzled bone]

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/946720500476956692
you can see your progress in this channel

[grizzled bone]

Nikke 탭에서 목록을 다시 보내주세요.
Please resend your roster from the Nikke tab (sorted by power) and
가급적 수평 모드(설정 > 그래픽)
preferably in horizontal mode (settings>graphics)

[lone saddle]

ty i will try to get centi and drake in near future

[tidal citrus]

OK THANK YOU!!

[tidal citrus]

Here my nikke 😄 thank you

[grizzled bone]

SP Def suggestion

Moran-S.Anis-Biscuit-Centi-Rumani
Noah-Noise-Cinderella-Rapunzel-Anis
Emilia-Blanc-RH-B.Soda-Jackal

[tidal citrus]

Thank you so much Bro!! 👊

[grizzled bone]

may as well 4/4/4

[graceful grotto]

Tell me why

Tis scarlet abuse

[tidal citrus]

Sense what is RH??

[grizzled bone]

Red Hood 빨간 후드

[tidal citrus]

Oh! Thank you 😍

[glad glade]

Because it was only several days ago that I got scarlet and I spent everything I had on crown and Cindy

[strong hull]

[graceful grotto]

I jest no worries, take your time to build

[glad glade]

T^T

[umbral crown]

@keen vapor

[graceful grotto]

1 million CP pvp

[umbral crown]

1.1m

[graceful grotto]

[umbral crown]

[graceful grotto]

I'm only at 900k atm hahaha

[umbral crown]

Whats your sync

[graceful grotto]

How many pvp unit did u push jeez

267

[umbral crown]

Practically all available

All my investments are in pvp

Thats why my rivals have not found a way to defeat me since like a month

Last whole season was full of blue shiels and the current one is in the same way

[strong hull]

Me 500k

[umbral crown]

You missing crow to have a 500k boost

[graceful grotto]

Ur rivals at what CP atm?

[graceful grotto]

U put Cindy in ur defense?

[umbral crown]

Yeah, we all have similar cp

And some have 20-25 more levels than me

[graceful grotto]

Dayummm

[umbral crown]

The 308 boi is sitting at c2

[keen vapor]

I'm higher :pepeh:

[strong hull]

Yea i dont into pvp stuff much, most of my investment for campaign or SR char only

[winged anchor]

need help with forming atk/def team for SP arena

[graceful grotto]

Cindy is good in defense tho

But u do want scarlet or another screen wiper in another team so they have to choose which one to Noah

[strong hull]

I have all pilgrim except her and RH

[grizzled bone]

you guys have that much cp?

[graceful grotto]

I tried to balance it hahaha

Lately though I think I should focus more on raids content

[grizzled bone]

SP Def

Noah-Noise-SBS-Rapunzel-Centi
Scarlet-Blanc-Liter-Noir-Jackal
Crown-SAnis-RH-Biscuit-BSoda

[grizzled bone]

raids are only once a month

[graceful grotto]

Spa rewards also once per month kewk

[grizzled bone]

but you gotta play every day

[graceful grotto]

[dark ledge]

need help making a team for atk and def 🙏

[umbral crown]

Avr

[umbral crown]

Each 12 days

[keen vapor]

Tomorrow

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Each 14

We don't battle one of them and the countdown yes shows 12 but not hours, if it did it will show 12 and 23 hours and 59 minutes and so on

So, twice per month

[umbral crown]

12 + 12 = twice a month

[keen vapor]

That's misinfo I'm the MA here

[vapid lake]

It's ok based on how behemoth is currently going, u dont need to play the raid to get rewards apparently bug still not fixed and chinese bros already abusing it again

[umbral crown]

They will just leave it as it is, 2ns anni means we get x2 everyrhing

[keen vapor]

another patch, another #_&$&63@ patch

[vapid lake]

Focus pvp correct play now

I'm glad i sacced behemoth sr

[keen vapor]

I'm ruined

Someone give me nitro/j

[umbral crown]

Nothing new

[vapid lake]

I cannot seriously compete for 3% without RH anyway so no point sweating there

[umbral crown]

[copper creek]

rh is not even key unit this sr

[keen vapor]

[copper creek]

anyway, pvp

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

But in my 3rd team...

[copper creek]

this sr u can get 3% with one team lol

[keen vapor]

how

[umbral crown]

Be a fish

[copper creek]

cindy rouge sanis crown exia+

this team alone should be 5b if u built it

[keen vapor]

I don't have Exia +

[umbral crown]

Skill issues

[keen vapor]

Pull issues

[copper creek]

theres a substitute for exia+

[keen vapor]

:Blanc stare: which

[copper creek]

that in my case actually worked better for me cuz my exia has invest issue

i wonder too, im keeping secrets

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

Imagine having invest issues

[keen vapor]

Surely another electric unit

[copper creek]

some friends on borderline for 3% and i need to retain competitive advantage

[umbral crown]

[grizzled bone]

no i didnt

[copper creek]

nah you didnt rly, unless you know how to play it

[keen vapor]

[copper creek]

the team comp is obvious the timing/play is not

[keen vapor]

[hazy shore]

yo guys does cindy's decoy give more burst gen in pvp if it gets hit?

[grizzled bone]

sometimes most of the time

[hazy wave]

help with team building pls!

[hazy shore]

more and more rng lets gooo

[keen vapor]

[grizzled bone]

just operate asssuming it will always feed

[coarse lake]

oh? new info about this?

[copper creek]

none that u dont alrd have access to

[coarse lake]

I never heard about any developments on decoy feed

[grizzled bone]

i just remember we were seeing feed and non feed at some point

[river moat]

hi...can anyone tell me some pvp teams here?

[graceful grotto]

For Rookie u can do Cinderella Blanc RH Noir Jackal

SPA u can't do much since ur roaster is quite limited

[river moat]

this is limited??? dang i need better rng..

is this for defense too?

[grizzled bone]

SPA is 15 units in total so... choosing from 20 in synchro limits options. Focus on making 2 strong teams, and put Anis in your synchro

[river moat]

ohhhh

[hybrid bough]

Hello. For Emilia can you use the cube to make her reach 21% CS? Or does it need to be pure overload?

[quick lake]

Cube works too

[hybrid bough]

Got it. Thank you!

[graceful grotto]

Cube works

[grizzled bone]

SP Def

Moran-SAnis-Biscuit-Centi-Anis
Scarlet-SBS-Liter-Poli-Jackal
Bay-Noise-Cindy-Rapunzel-Emi

no one will make attack teams for you based on a roster. Attack teams should be tailored to your opponents defense but you can ask for help here

For attack, you can make 2 attack teams and you can skip 1 enemy team by putting 1 unit on P5. You can view the links here for counters in Rookie and Special Arena (SP) (other useful stuff at pins):

Prydwen:

• Meta units - https://tinyurl.com/4ffcu6sx
• Special Arena (SP) - https://tinyurl.com/ycxnsjrv

nikke.gg:

• Rookie Arena - https://tinyurl.com/43u6a2z4
• Special Arena (SP) - https://tinyurl.com/2p8222fy

Keripo's Video and Matrix:

• Countering the Meta - https://tinyurl.com/eydrpwh7
• Keripo's PvP Matrix - http://tinyurl.com/keripo-nikke-pvp-test-matrix

From 瑟瑟出品's Youtube Channel:

• Rookie Arena Videos (CN) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm7TApldE9QBb5aaQizIrIX0PMmTOZFJo
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[grizzled bone]

Rookie Def

Jackal-Centi-Cindy-RH-Emi

SPA Def

Scarlet-Blanc-Liter-Noir-Jackal
Noah-Noise-Cindy-Rapunzel-Biscuit
Crown-SBS-RH-Centi-Emi

[swift mango]

Nah no time to watch all this shit.

What's the best of those links lol

[grizzled bone]

you're not even the person i was helping

prydwen and nikke.gg have the mechanics, and tier lists. Keripo also has his own tier list.
all these resources can be found in the pins

[white compass]

Is anyone here a sp pvp wizard? Can my defense team be better?

Currently running these 3 teams

Not sure why Alice is at the end ngl it used to be A2

[grizzled bone]

in short, yes they can be improved

• Alice might have been placed there to improve charge speed but overall it's not ideal because of the lack of burst gen
• Having Noah and Bay on the same team isn't optimal. Bay acts as a budget Noah and does not have a taunt. Also requires her to burst having her there in p5 just doesn't make sense

SP Def suggestion

Noah-Noise-SBS-Rapunzel-Anis
Scarlet-Blanc-RH-Noir-Jackal
Moran-SAnis-Biscuit-Emi-Pepper

[swift mango]

Rookie: Grave++Anis+Cindy+RH+Jackal.

SP: QuencyEQ+Blanc+RH+Noir+Jackal (3.5rl). Need Quency to have higher AtK than Noir.

Grave+Anis+Product23+Neon+Cindy. (3RL)

Auto team.

[swift mango]

I doubt they would invest their time in that much either lol.

[grizzled bone]

teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime

cant make a team against a team i dont know anyway

[swift mango]

Lazy people in SP arena would just make 2 strong team and attack everything.

They don't care if they lose though lol.

[hybrid fox]

how does scarlet slash work into cindy

[swift mango]

Last I saw it Cindy survive Scarlet Slash always. So it need to break decoy first before reaching Cindy.

[white compass]

Thanks! I'll try it out

I just want to maintain diamond 3 for 2k every rotation

[low trellis]

Can anyone cook me some comp for sp Arena?

[river moat]

cool cool ty

[swift mango]

Do that's another way to win against 2RL Scarlet. Just have 2 Defender under Biscuit effect with a 3-4RL Cindy team. No need for Noah.

[white compass]

Is Rapunzel worth OL once for pvp?

I have her at all lvl 3 equips. And Noise?

[swift mango]

Yes. They also have their value in story and boss fight, tower if you invested in them.

Not top meta in anything but good enough to use.

[white compass]

Is Biscuit OL Worthy? Lol

[swift mango]

Biscuit is top meta in pvp and can be useful in some raid team. She super worth the OL if you play more Arena.

One common play of Biscuit is with Blanc. And you don't want Blanc Indom to hit lower health Biscuit instead of the dps.

[swift mango]

Unless you wanna play sacrifice Biscuit for Rossanna feed. In that case don't OL her armour and maybe head+leg.

But you need to build your Rossanna.

[river moat]

what is product23 and what is RL

[swift mango]

Product 23 is the blue Nikke. Doro's dead girlfriend. Grave is also Product 23.

RL is the speed you team burst at. 3RL is burst at 3rd RL shot.

[swift mango]

I meant, that was super helpful of yours but I doubt they would use it. Hope they do though.

[river moat]

i dont understand your second line...its all auto right

[swift mango]

It's auto. So your team units' Regen speed all the more more important. As you can't uncharged attack like in story.

[river moat]

what does "3RL is burst at 3rd rL shot" mean? im totally new

[swift mango]

Just learn by reading this if you still have questions.

RL is rocket launcher....

[swift mango]

Reading the one I reply to.

[low trellis]

...

Leaving some reply till I get my Comp Recommendation..

[brittle hill]

This is all you can do
Twinkling Soda, Redhood, Anis, Maid Privaty, RL. Replace Anis with a sub RL burst gen in the future like Centi or Christmas Maiden

[zinc sparrow]

Need help with PvP team

[rustic sandal]

Nah all those skins as a whale

[glad glade]

tfw your rival out cps you

[tropic summit]

it's situational, on teams where you lack any true AoE wipe or you want to just burst a single target early, she still delivers. The DPS afteward is weaker but similar to RH. There are clearly better options, but it's a choice to consider

on the other hand, this shit surviving crown + RH with a pmaid burst on skill lvl 8 is kinda pissing me off

[copper creek]

in the context of atk, sure i think that's fair
in the context of def, absolutely not

[tropic summit]

yeah not on def, that's for sure

[copper creek]

and anyway in the context of atk you have enough options that lap+'s burst is probably far enough down the list

[gaunt sentinel]

@grizzled bone should i include cindy to my atk and/or def team ?

[swift mango]

You have very bad luck on getting pvp nikkes. Your burst Regen options are only Anis, Harran, Bunny Soda, Neon and Product 23.

I could probably do one team 3RL and one team 3.5-4 RL with this at best. Or 3 team 4rl.

Any way

Moran+Anis+Neon+Product 23+Cinderella. (3rl)

Maid Privaty+Haran RH+Rapunzel+Bunny Soda (4rl)

Auto team

[grizzled bone]

I don't see why not if you've invested enough 🤷🏻

I havent used her for defense yet personally

[gaunt sentinel]

she was 10/10/10 with all lvl 5 gear

[tight lantern]

may I ask for help on improving my teams? I have all Nikkes

[grizzled bone]

Nice

Just keep in mind her slow burst gen so she will need the right supporting units

And decoy feed

[gaunt sentinel]

i just dont know how to build around her cus of burst gen

[grizzled bone]

And target skipping

Yeah thats the drawback. Doesn't need buffer units but needs burst gen

[low trellis]

how about this?

[swift mango]

Nah dude I'm not touching your other s*

That's also very low level for year one account

[swift mango]

T1: I would put Anne to s3.

T2: Unless you are fighting 3RL Blanc+Emilia I won't put Cindy here.

T3: Okay but why not putting Cindy here?

[compact lintel]

any way to make my team better? i try to wing it on the 2nd and 3rd team, someone help me with it before and i try to change it bcz i unlock more nikkes

[tight lantern]

why would you put Cind in the third team?

actually I changed a couple of things, I think Sanis is better instead of Noir, and I heard Cind is good as a wipe character so I made her in a position so that she can burst instead of emilia

so Anne in position 3 you say

[swift mango]

.https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1JUiiuHysG3vlWRPVx_wT6zUwkc5Ob9n8G0azCbuwlA8/htmlview#

Use this, input your team and edit to get the desired burst Regen. Often at least 3RL.

Team one could make it if Scarlet ded or kill someone, but if not and they wipe them, then you lose.

[tight lantern]

nice, thanks

[loud sonnet]

Is blue doll enough for rumani and centi?

[raven plover]

ye blue doll enough for rumani centi jack biskuit

[tight lantern]

biscuit skills useful or I can leave them at 1/1/1?

[grizzled bone]

[graceful grotto]

I'll say 4 4 4 is fine instead of 1 1 1

[rich quail]

[swift mango]

Only s2 and 3 can be useful.

[loud sonnet]

Biscuit and noah has purple

[raven plover]

purple on biscuit

[loud sonnet]

I have 4 sr doll selector left

[swift mango]

All my SR RL dolls came from selectors so can't be helped that some doesn't get purple

[graceful grotto]

That's what I did

Gotta treat my girl with respect

Saving my defender so many times

[raven plover]

[rich quail]

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

My biscuit actually equipping a purple just because I didn't have any blue.

[raven plover]

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

What do you mean by decoy feed? If decoy count at 1 target then hitting her with RL would be 3 instead of 2 hits. (Nikke, decoy, cover) so a normal RL 4 hit will be 5 when putting her at slot 2.

Or am I missing something here?

[spring gust]

Is there any good replacements for Jackal? Trying to build a scarlet/centi/jackal SP arena team but I don’t have Jackal

[graceful grotto]

neither

jackal is irreplaceable in pvp

[spring gust]

Aww

[swift mango]

There is none. But if you just want to build 3rl Scarlet team then there is lots of options.

And 2 RL Scarlet team often doesn't need Jackal to survive.

[spring gust]

Oooo ok any recommendations? If not no worries I’ll go look on YouTube

[swift mango]

Scarlet+Blanc+RH+Centi+Anis. Would work just fine.

Scarlet dies easier but RH serves as a contingency b3.

Or you could just put Scarlet at s2.

So she doesn't die.

Least effective but work

[spring gust]

I don’t have RH but i have everything else so this seems more manageable!

[mighty haven]

[meager kiln]

Anyone available to cook a good sp defence? I have every unit

[swift mango]

Your teams look fine.
Just copy pasta Keripo 3 defense teams if you have everything. You could find his profile somewhere.

[umbral crown]

laplace+?

[umbral crown]

not really

3 SG means scar jack

[swift mango]

Well, I mean it's his weakest team but it works.

[umbral crown]

people at his sync are kinda smart and scar without jackal is kinda meh, so people jsut go scar jack team 3, and blanc SBS or slow noah 4 RL to block emilia or even rosanna

and team 1 is gone

[swift mango]

Well his team 1 is 2.5RL, pepper could do some work here. Not like it's that bad.

[umbral crown]

she could but having more than 2 SG means scar jack

[meager kiln]

Ok no treasure laplace lmao, running low on purple rockets

[umbral crown]

the feed is too much

[meager kiln]

Well it’s losing so not entirely fine

[umbral crown]

then share your nikkes in horizontal mode shorted by power

[meager kiln]

One sec

[umbral crown]

[meager kiln]

Beuh

Struggling to work on rosanna while maintaining a strong tribe tower team :/

[swift mango]

You could also mention where is the cuts of high in invested, low invested and no invested lol.

[vapid lake]

One guy in my bracket quit the game and another new contender rise to the top

[umbral crown]

happened to me

[meager kiln]

Pretty much everyone’s OL5 and 10/10/10 for pvp iirc

[umbral crown]

X.anne has OL?

[vapid lake]

I was hoping there would permanently be 1 less person to deal with

[meager kiln]

Unless it’s a new pvp unit that idk abt it should be OL5 and 10/10/10 i think only moran and rosanna arent rn

[swift mango]

There will always be another one 🤣

[umbral crown]

cai cooking?

[umbral crown]

ein max skill?

[meager kiln]

10/10/10, had to for the intercept

[umbral crown]

atk and some ele?

[meager kiln]

Never got pilgrim gloves, all the girls had cold hands

2 atk like 2 ammo 1 cs 2 cdmg

Also if possible can i ask for variations on the defence? Like dif versions so i can just swap to em when needed? If not its fine but yeh

[umbral crown]

i saw what you deleted

[meager kiln]

O wasnt using her for pvp but yeah that makes sense

[grizzled bone]

Decoys can feed burst gen, that's all

[umbral crown]

lets go with it:

SP Defense
Blanc/Ein/Emilia/Red Hood/Centi
Scarlet/Noir/Liter/X.Anne/Jackal
Noah/Noise/S.Anis/Biscuit/SBS

[swift mango]

That's basically repeat what I asked.

[grizzled bone]

Hi eraser

[meager kiln]

Oh yeah wait you were in my guild right? I knew your name seemed familiar from something lmao

[grizzled bone]

[umbral crown]

[grizzled bone]

Yeah lol

[swift mango]

Basically, Feed burst gen what?

[meager kiln]

O didnt know ein is good for pvp, huh

[umbral crown]

for that first take some time to understand out girls and how they synergizes with each other, also keep in mind the investment for them

[umbral crown]

nobody cooking with her but i do

[meager kiln]

Fair lmao

[umbral crown]

can you tell me the cp of each team now

quatum on Ein,Centi and Jackal

if its lv7 or +

[swift mango]

I got a few peeps in my bracket using her as DPS though. So not like she isn't used.

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

in an optimal way? show me their teams when you have the chance

[meager kiln]

Was just looking to try n understand it, lemme set it up rq

[umbral crown]

you can take your time, now oriees

[umbral crown]

this requires really well investment for these teams to work

nobody using X.Mica tho

[swift mango]

If you have everyone pvp upgraded you could probably do this.

But if you Emilia RL only 21% then team 2 is 2.5RL.

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/you-wo-joker-joaqu-gif-23924191

[grizzled bone]

Yes, RLs can hit nikke, decoy, cover.
You asked for clarification on what I meant. I was just saying to remember the decoys can feed enemy burst gen when that person wants to use Cinderella ...

[meager kiln]

Emilia has like 17% from OL

[umbral crown]

• s1?

[swift mango]

Then that mean 30% from s1+OL so it's 2.5RL

[meager kiln]

Havent given ein quantum, its lvl 9 and everyone else has it rn

[swift mango]

Need 24.7% from OL like him to exactly copy the dude.

[meager kiln]

O i need more OL cs

Thought like 21 was enough so i stopped rolling

Wait i cant count im at 28

There is one thing i dont get abt the sp defence, why isnt biscuit split up to get more invul?

[umbral crown]

in case you want more cp in scalet team, you can swap Liter for Rapunzel

[meager kiln]

O i didnt even notice the lack of rapu lmao

[umbral crown]

happens

so you avoid feed and get more sustain

[meager kiln]

Having rapu in?

[umbral crown]

if you see your team before and now looks more optimal

[umbral crown]

si

[meager kiln]

My sp arena knowledge is like a year old lmao, trying to figure this one out esp xd

I might as well put it in n see what happens tho

[umbral crown]

yeah

you can take your time

also try to work on RH to make her be in the top 5 cp in your roster

[swift mango]

Only teams 2 need to be highly Invested. T1+T3 basically free real estate anyone can make only the difference is CP.

[meager kiln]

She’s already maxed in everything except 15 purple doll, its lvl 5

;-; i need dupes but she’s the only pilgrim that doesnt self replicate

[umbral crown]

not really, you should make teams not thinking injust make 2 strong teams.. you are practically giving 1 for free

you need to work on your 3 teams and make them stronger

[swift mango]

I never said give 1 for free, just edit team 2 with what you have, easy.

[umbral crown]

no need to, all teams will buurst at 3 RL

[swift mango]

Blanc+Scarlet is still good option.

[umbral crown]

you wanna make a cp pad team which do not always work

[meager kiln]

Usu the cp pad teams are a big enough weakpoint to worth aiming for ngl

[swift mango]

If you can't make the 2 RL team 2.

[meager kiln]

Ik i do it n punch above my weight

[umbral crown]

for cp pad you jkust make an optimal cp around the cp and its gone

since usually cp teams are 4 RL or even 7

[swift mango]

7rl team lol

[meager kiln]

Is there any better team that coulda been cooked if i had certain units invested?

Like rosanna and moran for example

[swift mango]

Rossanna could make 3RL team 2 RL easily.

So that save on Clip RL

[umbral crown]

moran works nice with S.Anis
Rosanna with scarlet and jackal

[umbral crown]

nope, to make a 2 RL rosanna you need many RL

[meager kiln]

Ok i’ll prob invest in them after i max out tribe tower units, mother whale is a disgusting dps check

[umbral crown]

and your other 2 teams will be lacking burst generation

[swift mango]

Or just let 2 dies.

[umbral crown]

thats not hwo you gonna win

for 2 RL rosanna you need either Emilia Centi JAckal or noah Emi Centi Jacka

[meager kiln]

Rosanna feels more dangerous as a ‘im a b1 mini scarlet build around me’ rather than ‘im a burst battery’ ngl

[swift mango]

That's natural RL count.

[umbral crown]

but you have to keep in mind People doll s investment

not all rosannas kill 2 units

even if well invested

when people have SR15 dolls, nukes do not always happen

[swift mango]

When you are fighting people higher level than you it's very easy to get 1 or 2 died to normal attack than not.

So unless you are top of the ladder whale that could always be used.

Especially on attacking team.

[crimson escarp]

can anyone enlighten me with the best 3 teams meta pvp right now?

[meager kiln]

Ty for the pvp help btw, i hopefully wont need to return for another cook soon

[swift mango]

Team 2 need high roll on CS to work. Otherwise just use 3rl scarlet+Blanc.

[crimson escarp]

oh shiet I dont have rumani and xmica..

[umbral crown]

not really, before attacking you need to know your deficit. if you die early means you need to avoid that fight. for that you need to know how you gonna fight and if you have the units and ivnestment for it

[umbral crown]

you should tell them with the units they have, you showing people units they do not have at the moment

X.Anne and X.Mica were winter units

[crimson escarp]

I only own Xanne

[swift mango]

He asked for Best Arena teams dude.

[umbral crown]

but there ar ebetter teams tho

[crimson escarp]

no rapunzel in there also I see

[swift mango]

You should take this argument to Keripo.

[umbral crown]

thats just an example

[umbral crown]

[meager kiln]

Wait rumani? This is the best pvp def rn right?

[grizzled bone]

There are no best teams

[umbral crown]

burst generation only

[swift mango]

2RL Scarlet + 2RL Cindy is basically best overall already.

[crimson escarp]

I almost have everyone but didnt overload emilia

[meager kiln]

Ah