pvp-arena

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

What’s the next SR15?

[umbral crown]

moran

but mybe S.Anis first

[copper creek]

not pve?

[keen vapor]

@umbral crown you should read Pan wo nameruna

[umbral crown]

pve units do not have doll

[rich quail]

Tough choices

S.Anis makes pve a lot easier

[umbral crown]

i even did reset modernia

[keen vapor]

I've got so many shotgun dolls for some reason

[umbral crown]

viper+ is calling you

[keen vapor]

I don't even have her

[umbral crown]

mine is just waiting to have SR doll 15

farming mats for phase 3

[keen vapor]

I'm waiting for mats

[umbral crown]

you already have enough

[keen vapor]

100 purple? I doubt

[worthy knoll]

My CP at 302, though they don't count the OL lines back then for CP yet. 🤔

It'll prolly be 350k if they count OL lines, yeah not enough for 1.2M, prolly at most 1.1M 🤔

[velvet sky]

yeah ok found it in my vids, emi team worked very well vs t1, now have to smh figure out t3

[worthy knoll]

Fight SAnis with SAnis since they don't have Biscuit too? Double taunt will prolly work fine 🤔

[umbral crown]

there is still hope

[velvet sky]

might actually slap biscuit there bc found this in my vids, was smh fine without her in t1

hmmmmm

man it’s so slow idk

i did beat this with this tho which is kinda similar just emi > noise so hmmm

[misty finch]

Alice died but Modernia didn't rip

I think the S.sak DoT applied to her instead of Mod 😭

[velvet sky]

this sht’s causing me brain damage now or maybe this then, moran ftw bc i don’t trust my noise she’s gonna die there before burst 100%

[full citrus]

ily

oh sanis isnt used in any cus shes low investment?

[spiral onyx]

Just pointing out here that even without the CS sharing bug, it is a good idea to run CS cube on RL/SRs as a bonus.

The main reason is that real PvP is frame based, not XRL based. You can have two 3RL teams but in reality if one side has a CS cube, this could let them land their hit 1 frame earlier and therefore burst 1 frame earlier and potentially win an AoE nuke showdown.

[fallen palm]

Can someone help me make an sp arena attack team??

[spiral onyx]

This is of course just min maxing and in absence of a more important cube for that unit.

[coarse lake]

I avoid CS on noah and noise so their taunting is more consistent when used together

[spiral onyx]

An example that comes to mind would be XAnne. She's probably not in P1 so she doesn't need a tank cube. She isn't a burst gen battery so she likely won't be wearing Quantum. You can throw Resilience or Bastian on her but they don't add any value. But because she's a RL, she can take advantage of the CS cube. This though assumes you have a MG/SMG/AR on the team who would actually let you take advantage of that slightly earlier hit. If you're running all RLs or SGs that fire at regular intervals instead of continuously, then it won't make a diff

[spiral onyx]

Yes, this is definitely an important callout. Always keep target skipping and taunting in mind

[coarse lake]

I've also heard rumors that having a p5 RL with way too much CS might result in enemy shotguns being more likely to target skip to p4, idk how true that is

[spiral onyx]

I forgot about target skipping and was wondering why my Ein Blanc setup was struggling. Watched the replays in slow mo and realized P1 Ein was getting target skipped and so Blanc was dying lol

[coarse lake]

my 8-9% CS Jackal hasn't run into that issue yet

[fallen palm]

Tnx, I'll try it immediately

[coarse lake]

then it's probably true for p5 then, for enemy shotgun targeting

any idea how much CS% would make it happen?

[spiral onyx]

My theory is that targeting is calculated on a frame by frame basis. First shot targeting is affected by show fast units turn around and become "targetable", and that turn speed is also affected by their reload/channel speed. This I believe is why Pascal hates the ground - his firing interval is too fast and so he fires his first shot before any of the opponent units have finished turning around and becoming targetable.

[fiery parcel]

Thanks. But i have no biscuit

[rich quail]

I think for now, it’s probably best to figure out which unit is at its best (or near best) with adjutant and put them on that for the time being

I currently have Noah on Adjutant now, but moved Biscuit off to Vigor to help her with survivability and to give her more cp (because my Adjutant cube is at a lower level)

I compensated a Vigor Cube spot by putting Rapunzel on Healing Cube, which I got a few days ago

[coarse lake]

does noah innately have higher base CS?

or is it that her projectiles travel a bit faster

I heard about some diff between default noah and noise in terms of their projectiles landing timing

[spiral onyx]

When you have limited choice, you do what you can, that's always the best guidance. No unit NEEDS any cube to function, with the exception of SAnis actually needing Resilience

[rustic sandal]

will i win this ?

[spiral onyx]

no (2)

[rustic sandal]

t1 and t2

[rich quail]

I’m lucky that because of the newer cubes, I have more appealing choices to choose from

But I hope now that the cs targeting problems have been better highlighted, there can be a fix… and we can go back to actually wanting cs upgrades without wondering if it will have side-effects

tbh the only time I wanted cs lines was when I built up Alice

[velvet sky]

bruh flopped too

idk anymore 0 ideas

[spiral onyx]

yeah, HP cube and damage reduction cube are two of the most important general purpose cubes for PvP

[rich quail]

I’m trying my hardest to get damage reduction cube 😭 but I’m glad it’s there

[rich quail]

Probably… boost a doll? Use some resources for CP?

The SR raid stuff on top of the dailies and hitting a new sync level, I went up close to 21000 cp points from yesterday

All you need is cp to beat this guy, so you might have the means

[spiral onyx]

Even with this new SR season, I have still yet to get a single RL SR doll
At this rate, Im going to have to use both my selectors on RL dolls

[velvet sky]

def need to up scarlet’s sr doll from 6 to 10+ bc she’s dupeless = ez death but no mats rosanna’s too from 6 to at least 10

wanted to get my wife’s doll from 11 to 15 but unfortunately will have to switch priorities now

also yeah need 50+% atk on ros now

[rich quail]

I have 44%

[velvet sky]

in my bracket that’s not nearly enough to fully kill rh with 40-50 lvls above you & doll lvl 15

[rich quail]

I know the feeling

too well

[velvet sky]

i mean yeah we’re in same cursed whale server after all hahaha

while not being whales

[rich quail]

not even a dolphin

[velvet sky]

Should change my name to okane ga nai yo rn there

[rich quail]

Check my profile

in game

[velvet sky]

[spiral onyx]

Just some random cooking

[velvet sky]

we should create union with this name & all them whales will be like HERETICS

[spiral onyx]

Rosanna = 1310.4% + 561.6% = 1872%
SSakura = 4 * 256% * (100% + 15.64%) = 1184%
1872% + 1184% = 3056%

Ein = 300% * (100% + 70.12%) * (100% + 55.3%) * 150% = 1189%
BSoda = 628.7% * (100% + 65.25%) = 1039%

yeah, Rosanna + SSakura might actually be able to kill someone

issue is what if they dont and Ein/BSoda gets blocked

need a B2 nuker here

I dont think we have any B2 that hits hard do we

But wait... big brain move... what about... Tia...

Rosanna = (1310.4% + 561.6%) * (100% + 32.11%) = 2473%
SSakura = 4 * 256% * (100% + 15.64%) = 1184%
2473% + 1184% = 3657%

Yeah, someone will die

but cant fit Tia into the team

still, its an interesting setup

I guess though this just gets countered by OG Sakura lol

so Ein setup is still more potential

at the cost of requiring Noah, hmm

nah this is still way too expensive. Rosanna and SSAkura having such low burst gen ruins it

ok, Ima bench this til we get a B2 who can nuke so that we can reliably kill 1 target before B3

otherwise its still relying on a B3 timeline cause SSakura's ticks arent that fast

Pepper = 1238%
Rosanna = 1310.4% + 561.6% = 1872%
Ein = 300% * (100% + 70.12% + 77.22%) * (100% + 55.3%) * 150% = 1728%
1238% + 1728% = 2966%
1872% + 1728% = 3600%

This is viable, but, just like all the other comps Ive been cooking up, lacks AoE nuke defensive

oh, nvm, I forgot I tested this before, just with MPrivaty instead of Ein. It was crap

and with dolls and damage reduction cube, the bar for AoE nuke comps is now higher. You cant just double buff and one shot, you need additional followup damage post-nuke

thats where Ein comes in, being both a nuker and follow up DPS, but she needs proper support

[misty finch]

Yeah 😔

I think I'd win if Mod died properly

Yeah

I can replace DKW with pepper though

[misty finch]

Not past 15.4%

[worthy knoll]

P1: Scarlet/Emilia21/Blanc(Vigor)/Rosanna/Jackal (assumes Scarlet unlinked and Emilia lower hp than Ros Jack)

P2: Skip, unit to P5

P3: Noah(quantum or adjutant)/Biscuit/SAnis/RH/Moran 🤔

Or

P1: Noah(adjutant or quantum)/Biscuit(or SAnis, coz she dies or not, its a win either way, coz of Ros S2 if she dies, else she burst while Noah is up)/Emilia21/Rosanna(vigor)/Centi (Anis)

P2: Skip, unit to P5

P3: Blanc(Vigor)/SBS/Centi(Anis or clip SG)/RH/Jackal

If P3 CP gapped, Blanc/SBS/Biscuit/RH/Jackal could work even with cp gap

Pick your poison

[prime cloud]

Is yuni's burst an aoe stun in pvp? Anyone know how this skill works

[worthy knoll]

It does nothing CC wise

[prime cloud]

Kekw good to know 👍

[spiral onyx]

Yuni was my very first theorycraft and my very first disappointment

A lot has changed since then though

[prime cloud]

I was thinking of swapping yuni instead of poli for the extra ammo she gives and faster burst gen?, sadly Im still waiting for jackal so I have my B1 in p3

[solemn moth]

any arena team?

[strange linden]

who benefits from the new cube beside Moran and Noah?

[worthy knoll]

Anyone who needs to be tanky? It is roughly the same as Vigor cube iirc. Like if you need someone to be tanky, but no more Vigor cube available, you can place the new cube instead. Though if its a healer, then Vigor > Tempering as Vigor makes them tanky but at the same time, affects their healing too.

[glad meteor]

I’m thinking noise is better with tempering cube, assuming the stats are additive?

[worthy knoll]

For Noise, I think its still Vigor cube if not healing

Tempering cube is best for units that have high def, and can gain high self damage reduction to themselves too like Nero/Ludmilla/Moran

[glad meteor]

I was thinking noise s2+cube stack so it may be better to reduce damage by 7% instead of adding 7% hp to the s2

[glad meteor]

I guess it’s better for me since I don’t have high def units invested since I’m more pve orientated

[raven plover]

tempering noise 🤝

[worthy knoll]

It stacks, but only if its close to 100% damage reduction, or at least reach certain damage reduction that reduces the final damage to be equal or close to the unit's def, will be the scenario where tempering is better than Vigor coz it would make the damage to that said unit drop to double or just single digit numbers.

[umbral crown]

Wonder why since i got 3rd atk line on rosy, scarlet does not die anymore to this boi

[worthy knoll]

Coz they are on penalty?

[crystal flicker]

Rookie arena no more fun since I can't get any point from attacking

[umbral crown]

Hmmm maybe but OL boot just added like 4k cp

Scarlet is not linkee so she was always dying

[worthy knoll]

Well that 4k CP made it a 15.6% gap

[umbral crown]

Waos, 4k cp op

[umbral crown]

That makes sense

I was like: waos, scar not dying, my sac strat will not work anymore

[umbral crown]

Wrong video, that one was against the cp padder boi with 284k

This is the scarlet one

[rich quail]

@umbral crown I don’t have any lying around anymore, but I used to scrounge up all my t9 gear that my main players used to have. Basically, when my main units got their t9m gear, I handed the old t9 gear down to weaker characters, and they were usually level 5

When the CP adjustment came, I took those decked-out t9 gear and used them on pvp units that had t9m gear but at level 0-1, and it got them to near OL level. Boosted my cp through the roof when I did that… I had probably close to 15 of those things…

[umbral crown]

Haahha waos

I use the t9m lv0

[rich quail]

I never touch the t9m lvl0 gear, even if I have a ton of abnormal or elysion t9m lvl 0

I save it because you never know when you need to use it for a new banner unit, or when Shift Up finally gives us an option to combine t9m gear to make it into something we want (I heard something is in the works from a dev note)

But yeah, time to buff up Scarlet

She may not be as dominant as before, but she’s scary the way you set up teams for her. I know because you helped me

[umbral crown]

So many abn gear and still emilia missing body

[rich quail]

waaaaaaat

I guess anything attacker can be rare

Tomorrow, you will get t9m abnormal attacker chest gear

[umbral crown]

with a rock, please and thanksit feels good when you get those ssame day. the piece you are missing and a rock

[rustic sandal]

Please tell me about the special arena's defense formation.

[rich quail]

Were Harran and Privaty SSS tier for PvP back then?

[umbral crown]

Noah/Noise/S.Anis/Biscuit/Pepper
Scarlet/Scalter/Bay/Liter/Jackal
Blanc/Emilia/Red Hood/Noir/Centi

[spiral onyx]

This was before the game had even launched lol

[rich quail]

Oh right… heard there was a beta

[rustic sandal]

Thank you for the quick reply!

[umbral crown]

keripo watching the future

mirai zura

[rich quail]

Good luck

[umbral crown]

[mighty haven]

Got to love gaining points for doing nothing

[crystal flicker]

Beta tester

[pastel narwhal]

[umbral crown]

he gained 2 points, better than nothing uwu

[rich quail]

It’s like burning calories while watching tv

[crystal flicker]

better than no one dares to attack you

[spiral onyx]

After cooking for the past many many hours (its 6am right now, my sleep schedule is fked), I think I have solved Champion Arena. I now have 5 viable teams that can win against generic AoE nuke teams (e.g. non-Jackal, non-Noah Scarlet teams). i can sleep now

Noah's burst gen buff and the introduction of Ein was what made it possible

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

your efforts will be rewarded, Keripo

[rich quail]

Is cooking part of your job?

[crystal flicker]

Different SS tho

[umbral crown]

some action at least

[spiral onyx]

No, Nikke is a hobby lol

[rich quail]

Oh, but I hope you made something tasty

[spiral onyx]

we'll see, need to rerun the test matrix against my new teams later

[mighty haven]

My 2 alt accounts are a lot more fluid since I didn't spend as much on one/am completely F2P the other

[umbral crown]

[spiral onyx]

here's a little secret: I had almost forgotten about Maxwell being a non-Burst buffer

[mighty haven]

There would be 0 action once a Scarlet appears

[rich quail]

cooking in more ways than one

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

Oh, Maxwell
She’s one of my highest cp units and I still need to fully OL+5 her gears and up her skills

I was wondering if she was good in pvp

[spiral onyx]

she is generally not

[rich quail]

Yeah, her and Alice

[jade vine]

What kind of defense teams should I have if I had a full nikke roster?

[umbral crown]

depends your investment of each one

[jade vine]

Hypothetically, all Synchronized and 4/4/4 min?

[crystal flicker]

depend

[pastel narwhal]

all of a sudden, my bracket is fighting over #4th

[rich quail]

waw

[pastel narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/aimoto-rinku-d4dj-first-mix-anime-eating-popcorn-gif-19850531

[rich quail]

I dunno what the top 8 are doing in my league because literally nobody from c9 down can touch them

whales

[pastel narwhal]

funny thing about the cp update, over time my cp got higher than the whale beside me. it's obvious he didn't invest at all in his pvp teams

[rich quail]

You knew what was up

[pastel narwhal]

nahh, just lucky. I was just crazy to hyper invest everything on pvp, even my supports are at +3 or +4 minimum OL

[rich quail]

I dream of OL+5 Blanc

I used to follow nikke.gg or prydwn suggestions for the most part

I was more focused on skill investments, and I had no idea that OL equipment would be valuable

Then… then I was left behind

Could you send again, but sort by power, please?

It gives the pros here a better idea on who are your stronger units

[jade vine]

It's sorted by power with B1, B2, B3. Need it with the bursts mixed?

[rich quail]

Yeah, that’s how they do it here

[jade vine]

Just missing Ein and Chainsaw collab. Just been trying to maintain Diamond 2, but that's been slipping since I haven't updated my teams in months. CP update probably not helping.

[mighty haven]

So fun watching a mirror matchup

[lilac fjord]

Do tryhards OL moran for DEF stacking or def is just absolute

[umbral crown]

i see S.Anis not really invested

[jade vine]

She's fresh! Lemme check my resources here, I could probably bring her up a fair bit.

Looks like I have enough stocked to 10/10/10 and OL if needed.

[umbral crown]

Noah/Noise/S.Anis/Biscuit/Rapunzel
Blanc/Emilia/Red Hood/Noir/Centi
Scarlet/SBS/Liter/Naga/Jackal

[umbral crown]

10/10/9 is enough for her

also try to OL her

she is really good, avoid all Ammo lines

[jade vine]

doh

[umbral crown]

nice stats but ammo

[rich quail]

Yeah reroll as soon as you can
It’s kryptonite

[umbral crown]

i would lock atk and roll again

that reminds me my first line on S.Anis, 68% ammo

[rich quail]

@umbral crown I know that people say don’t lock the lines

But I think in the end locking lines is much better

I had too many experiences rerolling Alice to get cs and max ammo, but it’s really hard to get both in one gear doing single rolls

[umbral crown]

locking line is expensive but safest wayy

[rich quail]

yeah, I think so too

[pastel narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/nucarnival-eiden-credit-card-meme-swipe-card-spending-gif-26453530

[umbral crown]

12 rocks, 100 dolla

[rich quail]

in fact, I rerolled an Alice gear 10 times and never got both cs and max ammo

When I got cs, I locked the line and didn’t get around to doing it again

I got lucky one stretch and got about 10 rocks in 2 weeks

It all went to Alice

[umbral crown]

im blessed, getting at least 1 rock daily

[umbral snow]

sp arena help plz

[pastel narwhal]

but you provide the rocks

[umbral crown]

but nesso keep stealing yours

[crystal flicker]

There's a whale on C8, just waiting for him to attack me

[umbral crown]

Naga/Ein/Red Hood/Anis/Drake
Rosy Ocean/Ssakura/S.Anis/N102/Maiden
hit Auto Team

then when you get more nikkes you can ask again to update your box

[rich quail]

I’m stuck on campaign and Lost Sector now

I might have to… invest in pve characters

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

[umbral crown]

wait till your pvp chars carry you there

[rich quail]

Rosie does good but 40 sec b1 cooldown is tuff

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

I will auto and let cp carry me

[worthy knoll]

I use this team for PVE, my PVE team consisting of PVP units

[crystal flicker]

Just get Ein tho

[rich quail]

Aw man
That team is good
But my Nero is just a baby

Like 1/1/1 and no OL gears

What cube is good for Nero btw?

[mint kite]

With SAnis, my opponents are starting to get new teams. How do I beat this one?

[velvet sky]

thank you bestie will test everything after reset, that in theory should work idk why i ignored my fav scarlet sac strat vs t1 bc she’s still unlinked there, so still ez sacrifice

[rich quail]

Oh yeah, I remembered that my Scarlet is also unlinked

Emilia too stronk

[velvet sky]

Lul

exactly why c8 sucks & should continue my bloody fights vs that whale

[umbral snow]

thanks, also what does hit auto team mean?

[umbral crown]

its the auto team game makes with your units since you are missing more nikkes for a 3rd team

[umbral snow]

okay tysm 🙏

[umbral crown]

There

[crystal flicker]

I thought you're sync 400+

[umbral crown]

in my dreams i am

[vast junco]

is there an alternative to noah for sanis comp? moran?

[glacial lion]

moran biscuit only work if her burst enough to keep your team survive from aoe nuke

and burst gen diff too...

[umbral crown]

yeah

[vast junco]

so it looks something like this?

[trail inlet]

probs swap biscuit and noise

you dont want biscuit to randomly die from RL splash damage

[umbral crown]

laplace+?

[glacial lion]

she will heal herself during her burst right?

[trail inlet]

yeah but still you dont want her to die

[vast junco]

not at the moment but its 11/15 sr treasure so should be soon

[trail inlet]

and same with noise anyways

[keen vapor]

4 more levels than me

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

nice

[worthy lake]

@umbral crown my rival picked others as rival. Im no longer worthy

Idk Im sad or happy

The c9 started attack him for c7 and I watching them swap places 2-3 times ?

[keen vapor]

[velvet sky]

i hate it here
gonna target c9-8 even tho cp gap there is holy sht now that sarariman from c8 is 381 & then that whale from c7 but wtf

basically no way to defend against all them in challenger

[glad meteor]

Is the server sweaty, or did you take a break?

[velvet sky]

it’s a whale jp server, i never quit

[glad meteor]

Rip

[velvet sky]

and last reshuffle just threw in even more whales when i had more than enough of them already

[glad meteor]

, I lost a whale, but gained an enemy

They’re a Pvp main too

[velvet sky]

manifesting me being isekai’d from this hellhole next reshuffle

bc I’ve been stuck with them since the very beginning ENOUGH

it never isekai’d me anywhere

nor 99% of whales

[glad meteor]

If everyone’s active nothing will change in reform I think

[velvet sky]

unfortunately they are

[crystal flicker]

What about starting over

[pastel narwhal]

did anyone ever try going on hiatus 'til they get returning player rewards? do they place you on a dead server when reshuffle hits ?

[velvet sky]

never I’d rather quit pvp altogether than ditch my c6 wife, full collection of pilgrims with cores too etc
i do have an alt acc on na now too tho

[velvet sky]

i think @worn field tried that out already and iirc that didn’t work???

[pastel narwhal]

oh well, i guess there's no escaping it

[crystal flicker]

Guess the only way is to 🐳 harder lol

[pastel narwhal]

my waifu/tester jp account, notice the sharp jump in cp from diamond to challenger

[velvet sky]

my situation exactly

[pastel narwhal]

so if you do get reshuffled to another bracket, probably a samey one but with diff names

[thorn pagoda]

don't do what i did and spend a ton of $ to keep up with the whales lol
China & Japan is full of whales. it's crazy

not worth it

[worthy knoll]

[thorn pagoda]

only did that because i knew i'd never get another chance lmao

[velvet sky]

whales there can’t even defend against each other anyway bc same lvls

whole challenger is all over the place

so even if i whaled +50 synchro lvls that’d still not be enough

[thorn pagoda]

such a waste of money. if i could go back in time i'd slap myself across the face and never spend all that $ on core dust i'd do it

it's just pvp

[velvet sky]

….or maybe it would be idk bc i have everyone overloaded & core units with maxed skills, I’d snatch c1 ez but not gonna do that ever anyway

[thorn pagoda]

those commander dolls are OP af
i wonder if those whales are buying the blue OL crystals too

[velvet sky]

if only i was actually getting them instead of 9 flops in a row from boxes now & nothing useful from sr either

[sweet sluice]

my sp arena wasn't doing so great ever since cp buff

[velvet sky]

i feel like in my bracket they only whaled cd bc they 100% don’t have literally everyone overloaded, if they did their cp would be way higher, so it’s hard to beat them simply due to 50+ lvl diff

[thorn pagoda]

that's a good point tbh. the Chinese whale in my server is 9-10 levels ahead of me and my cp is slightly higher than his
that's true

it's not all about levels in pvp, it's mostly overload gear & dolls in my experience
although if you are significantly higher in levels it will help a lot

you need a team full of S / SSS nikkes 💯

[velvet sky]

like this giga whale for example, highest synchro in whole bracket yet super low cp for such lvl

if he overloaded everyone he’d be c1 ez lol

[thorn pagoda]

fuuuuuuccc maxed out stars on every nikke

the absolute worst thing one can buy from the $ store is gems

[crystal flicker]

maybe he just lazy

[velvet sky]

but my most fav thing is the fact that c1-3 have super dumb teams & use sanis with noir so I’d beat them easily if only i could ever reach them

[crystal flicker]

Since C1 don't really gave you anything, especially if you a whale lol

[thorn pagoda]

Blanc as their safety net lol

[velvet sky]

whales should be banned from sp bc they don’t even need it anyway

or sp should be level capped for everyone to be equal

[thorn pagoda]

recently they fixed rookie* arena so that if the whales get 200 points above you, they can't see you anymore
which helps a little

it feels like the whales abuse rookie arena more, but special arena is the only one that matters lol

[crystal flicker]

That's why I said we need special frame/title for Challenger lol

[velvet sky]

where’s my okane ga nai yo title for challenger

[lunar dirge]

just give them 3k gems every 2 weeks and let normal ppl duke it out

[velvet sky]

also if it’s gonna be same damn bracket system & same bracket in challenger all over again I’ll literally quit pvp

[thorn pagoda]

wish there was an option to opt out of pvp too lol

[umbral crown]

Waos, now you need to find another rival

[umbral crown]

But you will close the gap in terms of level

[velvet sky]

like fr it’s super dumb when you can easily take c1 bc you know what you’re doing unlike them but you can’t simply bc they level gap you

[umbral crown]

Waos, lucky

[umbral crown]

Close to gap

[glad meteor]

This is my rookie arena

[umbral crown]

Looks fine to me

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

It helps you to be creative

[velvet sky]

hater?

[glad meteor]

Targets me everywhere

[tired kraken]

what sp arena teams should i do

[umbral crown]

Show your current nikkes in horizontal mode

Shorted by power

[devout falcon]

shorted heh

[devout falcon]

[lunar dirge]

ain't escaping short allegations now

[velvet sky]

not with this game’s unreasonable prices on everything

[solemn moth]

SP

[tired kraken]

+biscuit snow white lenoa

[umbral crown]

Can you also show the ones above? Can not really see the names

[umbral crown]

Cool

[velvet sky]

new conspiracy theory the shorter you are the less power you have

[lunar dirge]

midgets are out of meta sadly

[velvet sky]

[umbral crown]

Uou have biscuit by any chance?

[pastel narwhal]

smol allegations

[solemn moth]

thank you kind sir

[velvet sky]

@pastel narwhal actually now i remembered that former c3 was afk for ages but still didn’t disappear from my bracket, just dropped to d4-5, so i don’t even have to test this afk thing myself

[tired kraken]

ye

[umbral crown]

Noah/Noise/S.Anis/Biscuit/Pepper

Scarlet/Blanc/Red Hood/Emilia/Jackal

Crown/SBS/Rapunzel/Noir/Centi

[pastel narwhal]

ooof, taking a nikke break can literally brick everything then

[tired kraken]

in this specific order?

[umbral crown]

Not really, you can put them as you wish

Like S.Anis team in team 3

[velvet sky]

yeah now he’s back after like what 5+ months afk but somewhere in the depths of d4-5 hell forever

[devout falcon]

I bet it does in my noob bracket

[pastel narwhal]

just 1 rank lower, not so bad

[devout falcon]

Everyone still lazy noobs but a couple ppl

[umbral crown]

Residual always in T2?

[devout falcon]

Wats ein min investment

[umbral crown]

I have my highest cp team in T2

[velvet sky]

not 1, challenger 3 > d4-d5

[umbral crown]

7/7/7

[devout falcon]

Bro thought she was rouge

[umbral crown]

[devout falcon]

Ok ty

[pastel narwhal]

oh ok, total bricked

[tired kraken]

tyvm

[umbral crown]

[velvet sky]

huh i think he whaled lots of lvls like 20-30 & started climbing back, 25th now

[pastel narwhal]

there was one guy like that in my main, maybe a year ago, went down to diamond and never saw him again , idk if he went to diff bracket or way at the bottom now

[last tusk]

I need some recommendations for teams that would be good for rookie and special arena. Can anyone help me out with that?

Thank you

What can I do for attack teams?

[echo ferry]

How would you beat a Noise/Noah/S.Anis/Scarlet/Centi defense?

[glacial lion]

nuke them with indom emi

[keen vapor]

Indom Emilia always the answer

Guys, how I do Indom Emi at 4 RL

[glacial lion]

against 4rl sanis?

[keen vapor]

Not really there's this one guy who uses RH at that speed

[lone sequoia]

tia/rapu(?

[glacial lion]

you can run noah tia biscuit emi rh, still 2 buffer and slower cuz wasted time for tia burst

[glacial lion]

4rl indom rh or noah biscuit?

[keen vapor]

Noah biscuit iirc

[keen vapor]

I can't run Noah, at all

[lone sequoia]

why emi?

[glacial lion]

then you can nuke with 3rl indom sakura...

[keen vapor]

Cuz she-.... Ah, I see your point

[lone sequoia]

2buffer+scarlet/nuke or slow blanc+sbs or rh+crown

[glacial lion]

should be sp, cuz he said he cant use noah

[coarse lake]

echo doesn't have noah

[glacial lion]

lol

[lunar dirge]

he is also nagaless

[coarse lake]

bay-less as well

[lunar dirge]

and other

[glacial lion]

i thought he cant use noah cuz he use her in other team

[lunar dirge]

he is a walking L

[glacial lion]

oh...

[lone sequoia]

no bay here... well i have her in my second account

[keen vapor]

I'M AN IDIOT

[glacial lion]

atleast you has moran right?

[echo ferry]

I just needed a basic model to start. I'll start with Scalter first since shes invested then try Emilia. Rookie arena

[lunar dirge]

right?

[keen vapor]

Two overloads, but yes

[lone sequoia]

diesel treasure and you will be fine

[glacial lion]

she can keep your team alive too, but req high lvl burst

[keen vapor]

If only I had Diesel at limit break 2

[glacial lion]

or noise... same req, but moran work with biscuit

[coarse lake]

if they're running 4rl noah biscuit rh, yeah just do a 3rl or faster double buff nuke

[lone sequoia]

or sbs/blanc/rh/crown/jackal (?

[coarse lake]

if their rh shoots randomly that could be an issue, sbs vs full enemy team

[glacial lion]

why sbs work against noah biscuit now?

[coarse lake]

you can also try indom/biscuit + moran, with emilia sub-dps, depends on their other units and positioning

[lone sequoia]

i thought it was emi/rh 4rl

[coarse lake]

what's the actual enemy comp

[glacial lion]

he said 4rl noah biscuit rh (?)

[lone sequoia]

noah teams are 3rl now(?

[coarse lake]

@keen vapor what's the actual enemy comp

[keen vapor]

Is sending

I have slow internet

[lunar dirge]

another L

[lone sequoia]

the guy can write and decide to take a ss

[keen vapor]

It restarted

[lunar dirge]

and another L

[keen vapor]

This is my target

He's tricky

Finally

[coarse lake]

can't you just scar jack it

[keen vapor]

Problem is, CP issue

[lone sequoia]

time to push campaign(?

[coarse lake]

[keen vapor]

Both of them have 2 overloads

Scar has no T9M left

Jackal only one

I. Have no fodder

[coarse lake]

still hoarding core dust?

[keen vapor]

Oh no, the "cuz you're hoarding" look again

[lone sequoia]

biscuit teams can win in power deficit, just use another defender+taunt

[keen vapor]

yes

[glacial lion]

can you use sacc strat?

[coarse lake]

your box still like this?

[keen vapor]

What?

[keen vapor]

[glacial lion]

ros and sac pos1

[keen vapor]

Blanc has SR doll at level 5

[coarse lake]

What's your team cp with: Scarlet/Crown/RH/Anis/Jackal

[keen vapor]

No Ross

[glacial lion]

nvm

i just saw your box

[keen vapor]

226,339

[mint kite]

They're out of reach without money, now?

[coarse lake]

eh that's within range actually

[keen vapor]

Barely

[coarse lake]

if crown bug happens it could be an issue though

what's your CP with: Blanc/Bscar/Tia/Biscuit/Rapunzel

oh no tia

[lunar dirge]

it's always applicable to you tbf

[keen vapor]

Free skin in bench

[keen vapor]

[coarse lake]

what about: Blanc/Emilia/Rapunzel/Biscuit/Centi

[keen vapor]

What do you think @umbral crown ?

[lunar dirge]

just be a fellow brokeass like me

[keen vapor]

With so many RL in the enemy team pretty sure my Emi dies of splash damage

47 levels above me

[coarse lake]

what's the team cp of that

[umbral crown]

Pull and use your mats

But jokes aside, in which context

[keen vapor]

211k so deficit

[lunar dirge]

basically,you agree with me

[lone sequoia]

nero/biscuit/emi/rh/rapu or another unit in p2 for cp(biscuit p4)

[umbral crown]

47 level gap

[keen vapor]

225,947 with Anis

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

So close to not make it

[umbral crown]

There is clearly another deficit there

[keen vapor]

Cuz I hoard

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

is your t3 currently able to win?

[umbral crown]

You should first close the gap in levels a bit more, less thsn 40 levels to start with

[keen vapor]

No, enemy nuke happens first usually

[coarse lake]

here's the problem, even if you put together enough high cp units to win a fight, you still gotta win another

[umbral crown]

Did you check calculator Team 2 speed?

[lone sequoia]

no puppets?

[umbral crown]

Hoarding mats to nikke 2

[keen vapor]

I know his previous team didn't burst at all, this current variation actually burst so I guessed is 4RL

[lone sequoia]

is fine to use R since you use less mats to get SRlv5

[umbral crown]

Because if 4 RL might block your emi nuke

[keen vapor]

Not enough blue mats

[copper creek]

looks to me like u dont have enough cp for 2 fights

[lone sequoia]

base R are good enough

[umbral crown]

2 deficits ; cp and level 47 level gap

[lone sequoia]

+1; no noah

[umbral crown]

Waos

[keen vapor]

That's how I learned the pain of 3 red end screen

[umbral crown]

Pulling an Ely fighting people over 40 levels

[lone sequoia]

but he reach c6-8 (?

[coarse lake]

what's your CP with
Bscar/Blanc/Emilia/Anis/Jackal
Crown/Scarlet/RH/Biscuit/Centi

[copper creek]

LMAOOOOO

[umbral crown]

[copper creek]

Bwahahahahahaha

[last tusk]

Is there a doc for overload gear?

[umbral crown]

Munch is

[copper creek]

not for pvp unless u have a specific question

[tender valve]

https://tenor.com/view/sora-cooking-food-wars-shokugeki-no-soma-fire-gif-17443420

[umbral crown]

Ph.d

[copper creek]

sorry i had to laugh at what nesso said

bwahahahahhaahaha

[keen vapor]

234k
210k

[coarse lake]

what about if you swapped centi and anis

[lone sequoia]

first 3-4 pve core units then elemental damage dps (2-4) after all that you can go with pvp units (do not reroll for pvp effect default OL is good)

[keen vapor]

220

224 for Scar RH

I need tons of overloads but I have fodder issue

Not even my hoarding could escape this

[coarse lake]

any way you can move cubes around to get scar RH team to 226k+?

[lone sequoia]

30min

the nightmare start today

[umbral crown]

Which one

[pastel narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/kaguya-sama-love-is-war-anime-chika-cute-kawaii-gif-17796902

SR

[umbral crown]

Ah

[lone sequoia]

no ein here, so good runs required

[keen vapor]

I could move Biscuit to Adjutant

Now is 225,469

[umbral crown]

Just getting ready for the selector

[crystal flicker]

people actually climb SR after reset?

[coarse lake]

any other change you can make?

[umbral crown]

I trust munch can di it

[coarse lake]

move them to higher lvl cubes if possible

[lone sequoia]

some people do that, others just test damage

[umbral crown]

Auto and hope for the best

[pastel narwhal]

just got exia+, ein and a full electric team... but still low expectations cause my server kept raising the ceiling

[copper creek]

yes

how else do we figure out how to cook teams 🤣

[lone sequoia]

jp?

[pastel narwhal]

SEA

[umbral crown]

Cooking

I trust you can get some more ranks, pvp representative in global

[keen vapor]

I did make it within deficit
225,938

[lone sequoia]

i think munch do more damage than me in sr

[keen vapor]

Crown has resilience cube once again

[coarse lake]

and your bscar emi team is still same cp?

[umbral crown]

Pvp ppwa showing thr way

[umbral crown]

Few boxes to get the missing cp

Make it to 241

[keen vapor]

Yes, 220k

[umbral crown]

You should be able to get 10k cp there

[keen vapor]

I need one natural level first

[coarse lake]

use Bscar/Blanc/Emilia/Centi/Jackal against enemy scar jack
use Crown/Scarlet/RH/Biscuit/Anis against enemy RH

and just pray crown buff activates in time

[umbral crown]

240 then

[keen vapor]

That makes so much sense

[lone sequoia]

outpost lv?

[keen vapor]

Synchro

[umbral crown]

Not everyone has Eon cooking for them, make his effort worth the time

[keen vapor]

My outpost already 244

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Nah, I'd win

[coarse lake]

oh and is your bscar lower hp than emilia

[keen vapor]

.... Oh fu- biiiiiipp

Well, Emi nuke it will be

[coarse lake]

swap them around if emi is lower hp

[keen vapor]

Right?

Okay

Scarlet dies early

So does Blanc

🪦

[coarse lake]

bscar or scarlet

blanc might be due to them target skipping your emi

[keen vapor]

Both teams

[coarse lake]

both died before they could burst?

[keen vapor]

Unavoidable RNG

[keen vapor]

Yep

[velvet sky]

[coarse lake]

they somehow target skipped your crown?

[keen vapor]

RH bursted instead

So did Centi

[coarse lake]

tf

how much CS is on your jackal

[keen vapor]

0

[coarse lake]

you can try:
Crown/Anis/Scarlet/RH/Biscuit
Jackal/Emilia/Blanc/Centi/Bscar

idk how they target skipped your crown though

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

@copper creek knows

[velvet sky]

correction: drinks

[keen vapor]

[lone sequoia]

can you check nero/biscuit/emi/rh/rapu cp? @keen vapor

[keen vapor]

Well, I'm out of attempts for 8 minutes

But Biscuit will have the same destiny as Scarlet

[coarse lake]

their rh team doesn't have SG, so biscuit should be ok

oh for nesso's comp, eh, depends if weird skip happens again

[lone sequoia]

liter have more power than noise?

[coarse lake]

tbh you need higher cp if you want a decent shot, team comp options being extremely limited by cp

[copper creek]

a

[velvet sky]

see

[lone sequoia]

then the same noise/sbs/blanc/centi/jackal

[umbral crown]

true man of culture

[lunar dirge]

i'll just drink from a cup

[copper creek]

is that not a cup

[lunar dirge]

i'm speaking about myself

[umbral crown]

[copper creek]

dont lie, u drink straight from bottle

[lone sequoia]

munch can show you blood and you will drink it(?

[lunar dirge]

50/50,i toss a coin every time

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/purple-anime-drink-wine-glass-gif-17054439

[lunar dirge]

if there is an alcohol,then yes

[umbral crown]

now munch gonna caqrry our pvp gang in SR

[lunar dirge]

don't forget about me

[umbral crown]

#WeTrustMunch

[lone sequoia]

it was eon who drop from 3% last season?

[umbral crown]

you global?

[coarse lake]

[lunar dirge]

ye

[coarse lake]

I could have made it too, that's what sucks

[umbral crown]

why you do nt add me as friends?

[coarse lake]

need to ask nesso for advice earlier

[lunar dirge]

id?

[velvet sky]

edward cullen

[lone sequoia]

i have to test my units first

[umbral crown]

give me 1 min, already started SR

[lone sequoia]

reset*

[umbral crown]

[potent ermine]

3 team

[coarse lake]

my alice was fully done yesterday as well, and I now got sanis

[potent ermine]

For Defense and Attack

[coarse lake]

so should be better than I used to be relatively to the rest of server

[pastel narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/konosuba-steal-kazuma-adventurer-anime-gif-17106503

[umbral crown]

mlb?

[pastel narwhal]

alright gimme ur rocks

[coarse lake]

1 copy sanis only

[umbral crown]

nobody will steal your rock today

[velvet sky]

gems

[coarse lake]

really considered more copies, but saving mileage for cindy

[lunar dirge]

also,we met before,we had interacted in chat back at february

[coarse lake]

if I got spare mileage, I'll MLB cindy

the only character I've MLB'ed just bc I like them is dkw, cindy might be the second one

[pastel narwhal]

Elysion support shoes no rocks

[umbral crown]

yeah, just thought you were NA for a moment

[umbral crown]

blame nesso, he will get 2 rocks

[pastel narwhal]

only there's nothing to steal

[lone sequoia]

i hope

[umbral crown]

[pastel narwhal]

oh wells, time to pickup my RL doll

[potent ermine]

Pog

[granite dock]

Can anyone suggest the team I can use in the special arena? Need 3 teams for defence and 2-3 strong teams for attack. I can invest, sync, or open for Ein if needed. Thank you in advance. 🙏

[potent ermine]

I cna't read

[umbral crown]

[lone sequoia]

1rock

[umbral crown]

uwu

[lunar dirge]

stage 7 1tap

[granite dock]

Tysm

[umbral crown]

waos

[pastel narwhal]

[umbral crown]

nice

aoi showing tru powa

[pastel narwhal]

omg he got vesti the besti max pro , scary, dont attack him he crazy

[umbral crown]

soon Versti treasure

[pastel narwhal]

the four shinies

[umbral crown]

waos

the 1.8m boy seems comfy there

[pastel narwhal]

that guy is a whale and he don't care for pvp so when i atked him he only atked me twice and failed and then gave up. He doesn't need hte gems anyway he has all skins, i like him

[umbral crown]

[copper creek]

just went to test fight / mech timestamps

this should be tough SR, good luck to auto/mobile players

and for the first time ever (and probably never ever gonna happen again):

(just dont ask about the score 😂)

[coarse lake]

global numba wan

[copper creek]

for friends who had campaign ver. of mirror container guide - ask me in DM for SR ver. if u need it after about 12 hours from this msg

[lone sequoia]

learn the mechanics...survive...deal more damage

[copper creek]

theres specific way to play this SR lol

[lone sequoia]

sp?

[velvet sky]

i’m nesso now 2 rocks

[pastel narwhal]

those were mine

[umbral crown]

Ely took Aoi s rocks

[umbral crown]

im on mobile but later share the tricks

[lone sequoia]

i think the scarlet/rosanna/jackal is good if rosanna can oneshot at least 1 unit

[umbral crown]

im the type: auto and hope for the best

[copper creek]

this fight i think all regulars here can 3%, difficult fight

do not auto, do not mobile this SR

[lone sequoia]

xrupee sanis xd

[umbral crown]

super, ping when its done

[wise horizon]

This is good to go?

[umbral crown]

will there be a link to see?

[coarse lake]

ein is such a monster

consistently double the dmg of my same invest maxwell in missilis tower, sometimes triple

[glad meteor]

I made it to 2nd temporarily, My comps are … don’t look

[umbral crown]

cool, will make sure to check it

[lone sequoia]

why people skip round 3? i think you can try more things

[copper creek]

if u're skipping round 3 then might as well put some funny sht there to satisfy ur curiosity if u care lol

but i think thats not most people here 😅

[indigo folio]

Could I get some help figuring out a new pvp team? I am getting destroyed by people I use to beat (shown is my atk team which is also my def team)

[lone sequoia]

rookie arena right?

[indigo folio]

yep

[lone sequoia]

you can try centi/maid.privaty/noir/rosanna/anis

[indigo folio]

thx ill try both of these

[glad meteor]

Hey zixk, do you have advice for making nero comps? What dps + burst gen type

[lone sequoia]

i don't know his units but he is lv309 against 305, just fill no(?

normal rule... around 3RL+heals if you can get her 2nd burst proc

[glad meteor]

I’m just trying out making champion arena comps, wondering what dps unit to use, i’ll probably need to make it 3 RL

[lone sequoia]

for slower teams, more damage reduction or moran

[glad meteor]

Thanks

[pastel narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/noted-anime-gif-25088894

[glad meteor]

I’m guessing, nero comps are 4 RL and suffers at 3?

I see, thanks

[vast junco]

what counters rosanna? my whole bracket decided to go ahead and invest in theirs

[velvet sky]

faster noah/rapu res

[copper creek]

lol sorry zixk

but good luck

[vast junco]

so noah is pretty much the only way to counter scar/blanc/rosanna/centi/jackal?

[copper creek]

this sr mechanic is very convoluted and i think u might be the only one helping pvp for a while 😅

[vast junco]

for sp arena

that one specifically

[velvet sky]

[vast junco]

not yet, its the last pilgrim i dont have >_>

[quick pivot]

Just got Noah from Pilgrim Mold. How should I rearrange teams now to implement the gremlin?

[vast junco]

anything under 20% deficit is fine right?

[prime mango]

How beat 🙂

[copper creek]

generally, whenever u see a noah:
match speed with blanc/emi/rh/something/something

[prime mango]

Poop. Gotta build my scalter

[vast junco]

nah all of those team except third die before bursting, the deficit is fine but units just too weak to survive normal hits (and third loses to sanis burst)

[copper creek]

0rock f this game

[vast junco]

oh right guess i posted those in wrong order 😂 sec

[coarse lake]

look into egg for SR has potential, esp if you don't use crown with sbs alice team

[copper creek]

for now its just testing

[copper creek]

SR season ends on friday reset
so, you have 12 hours to figure out how to fit the new banner unit into your teams, and to complete one proper score run with her

[coarse lake]

not talking about zwei, I mean elegg

[steep oak]

@umbral crown Rosy, I came back to thank you for cooking me up an amazing Arena team the other night. Hopefully you see this. Thank you and cheers mate

[copper creek]

thats up to u

[copper creek]

ye i know just letting u know on a separate note also, that u have that to contend with, so dont burn all your last day's challenge attempts before patch

[quick pivot]

Ty!

[umbral crown]

glad its working .

[vast junco]

right i messed up the initial screenshots (mixed 2 ppl..), thoughts on these instead?

[velvet sky]

@worthy knoll mewwyyyyy IT WORKED

[velvet sky]

[lunar pawn]

my emilia has now reached over 21% CS with OL lines and s1 alone

[umbral crown]

nice

[mint kite]

This is a different team

[vast junco]

ok team 2 had emilia die right before burst activated so rapunzel wasted res on her and scar didnt get hers off as a result (died to rosanna), team 3 won.. guess i need to just gear up emilia a bit more and it should be fine

that worked, thanks!

guess i could also ask if this def team is bricked (too slow?)

[last tusk]

Team help?

[prime mango]

Kk. Found out I just need to match them in speed. Did blanc/emi/redhood/centi/jackal

[velvet sky]

and second whale
Moran ftw also gremlin with today’s sr doll finally survived on p1

now i need biscuits b10 instead of 7 to kill things way faster

[wise horizon]

Didnt quite work out how I wanted, any advice? @worn field

[velvet sky]

come ooon it’s been 9 flops in a row already

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

10 flops in a row

it should’ve been sr rl

[tawny vine]

that's still a big win imop

since they're so kmuch easier to level anyway

[pastel narwhal]

any RL is good doll

[mint kite]

What does Alice do in the team with 2B?

Isn't enemy's T3 their worst team? Looks like you're saying to skip it

Still with Alice over Scalter?

To confirm, this is what you suggested (it worked! Although T3 got dicey and Noir was headed for solo Indom)

[lunar pawn]

someone do the math for me, what are the chances he bursts late and blocks icbm?

[tawny vine]

enemy took looks like a standard 3rl so don't think it's super late or anything

haven't put it in a sheet tho just a feeling

[lunar pawn]

yea, wasn't an issue

[tawny vine]

somewhat related I heard noah bursts faster now with latest wep changes in pvp. is that true?

[lunar pawn]

she has better burst regen now

higher than clip sg, lower than clip rl

[tawny vine]

nice just need that shield goblin to arrive full set of t9ms just gathering dust 💀

[coarse lake]

their rosanna probably just snipes your emi anyway

eh... maybe not, enemy is running 4RL

that's with the updated noah burst gen

but that does mean their noah can block your emi

you might still be fine though, if your emi has enough dmg to kill them afterwards with basics

[tawny vine]

double guessing myself a bit but is there still value in keeping noise without using her as b1?
idea is pretty straigh forward. rh buffs so emilia softens enemy and m.priv 1 shots. bay replaced with noah whenever she drops

team: bay/m.priv/rh/emilia/noise

[coarse lake]

noise would pull some pressure away from bay so that she can actually have a chance to live, so yeah I'd say it's good

[tawny vine]

that was my cope as well will just see how it sits in sp

[copper creek]

can try

bay in p1 scares me a bit cuz if her cover is shredded - she does nothing

[tawny vine]

was reading keripo's pin on ein too - pretty neat. an obvious upgrade to the team will be:

noah/ein/rh/emilia/noise

if i ever get noah anyway

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

yeah you'll have to not expect bay to do anything except burst

[tawny vine]

yeah i agree not comfortable investing much in bay rn. so long as i get to b3 idc if she dies

[coarse lake]

if she dies, RH can b2, but you still need to nuke them with single buffed mpriv before you die

[umbral crown]

Bay works fine as 1/1/1

[tawny vine]

and even if she dies rh can cover b2 burst

yeah exactly hahaha

[tawny vine]

ah yes she's 1/1/1 i meant in terms of dolls/OLs rest of the sp team still starved on those

[umbral crown]

Oh that makes sense

Now im thinking to give Scarlet SR doll

[tawny vine]

it is funny that as a defender she's also the squishest in that team

[umbral crown]

Or save it for a support / defender

[tawny vine]

i found sr doll on scarlet worth just because she's almost always p1

[umbral crown]

Yeah, thats true

[coarse lake]

it can mess up indom

[umbral crown]

makes sense

[lusty prism]

need pvp team, dont have biscuit yet

[umbral crown]

Noah could be an option but starting with SR doll phase 0 not looking great

[tawny vine]

it definitely feels bad when you know you ain't upgrading that sr doll any time soon

but eh 10% dr

[umbral crown]

Yup

Best way is with SSR kit

[tawny vine]

so i just put sr dolls on all my main pvp units now and just r dolls on pve team

[umbral crown]

With 25% chance

[lunar pawn]

Oh I already fought, emi had plenty of time to nuke actually, was a bit weird...though even if she missed, his lack of a full burst with heal was a stretch

[keen vapor]

Why I didn't pulled for Bay

[umbral crown]

In my mind are noah, jackal, moran

[umbral crown]

I did not and i got her

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

From standar

But i do not really use her

Probably in champ

[keen vapor]

I WILL

[umbral crown]

Will you?

[tawny vine]

tbh bay was really great in sp arena initially when rest were weaker - now she just attacks the pve teams

at least in my bracket

[keen vapor]

Well, I haven't got Noah

[umbral crown]

Most of your problem have one solution: pull

[umbral crown]

Yep

[lusty prism]

Rookie

[rich quail]

Morning
No rocks no gear
Bully came back and knocked me down
That kind of day

I handled business, though

[tawny vine]

so i've always never understood this properly. take centi under 3RL. is 41.4 the amount of burst she contributes after 3 RL shots? is it just like that?

usually i just let the spreadsheet do the maths still just curious

[umbral crown]

Yep

[rich quail]

2nd iPhone crash
I need to get a new phone

[umbral crown]

S24 ultra

[keen vapor]

Moto G

[umbral crown]

quatum lv7

[keen vapor]

Android is the best

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

I need to pull for a new iPhone

[keen vapor]

So expensive

[keen vapor]

You better play the exclusive sonic games

[velvet sky]

it’s not iphone problem it’s their ios optimisation (read nonexistent) problem

[umbral crown]

another pull problem

[rich quail]

Yeah it’s major bs

Honkai Star Rail runs on my iPhone 12 no problems

[tawny vine]

holy moly - sent 3 rocks at emilia and got 2 blue CS lines 👀

my cope bay team is now 3 RL

[rich quail]

congrats @tawny vine

[umbral crown]

waos

[tawny vine]

im shook haha

ty

[rich quail]

Cherish these moments

I am riding the strugglebus today
But my day will come

I gotta deal with another cp gapper

But I have to do something for a few hours rn

I may need advice later

pls help a strugglebus rider

[umbral crown]

[fading heath]

Anyone know how I can defeat the first two teams? I'm ditching last team cuz of that cp pool

[umbral crown]

Waos

60 level gap

[lone sequoia]

emi/noah T1 and blanc rh-sbs T2 (?

[umbral crown]

But give full team

[lone sequoia]

noah/b1-cp/emi/biscuit/centi---noise or rapu
sbs/blanc/rh/x/jackal

[umbral crown]

Can you share yout nikkes in horizontal mode , shorted by power

To have a better look at your nikkes to recommend you teams

[crystal flicker]

The deficit...

[umbral crown]

Bro has no fear to success

Ely is the expert about deficits

[lone sequoia]

no weak p1 and biscuit for noah

wait sbs-alice

sbs -scarlet swap

[lone sequoia]

check- noah/noise/emi/biscuit/centi-------scarlet/blanc/rh/x/jackal ---x cp

[umbral crown]

in that x add noir

let me open the calculator

[lone sequoia]

i don't use noir, she bug my matchups against sanis

[umbral crown]

team with S.Anis on enemy not gonna burst

team with scar 3 RL

[lone sequoia]

all depend on enemy scarlet ammo and dmg

[fading heath]

Ok ill give this a try, with x being noir

[umbral crown]

whats your cp with those comps

before attacking

[fading heath]

We both leveled up our synchro so the current cps are like this:

[lone sequoia]

no problem for team noah and the other is jackal against sr+ support sg

[umbral crown]

looks fine, no deficit on team 2, team 1 still in range

[fading heath]

The first team is like 12% cp deficit so I don't think I hit the penalty yet

[umbral crown]

yeah, you are good

[fading heath]

I used 1 - (my cp/enemy cp) formula

[umbral crown]

yep, thats the formula

show us

original cook always work

[fading heath]

Team 1 succeeded

And Team 2 as well

[umbral crown]

Nesso cooking the way

[fading heath]

Thank you guys, I honestly didn't think about Emilia being the DPS B3 for most cases in PvP

I mainly had her for battery charge x.x

[umbral crown]

she is one of the best currently

4-7-7 minimun

or for more pleasure 7-10-10

[fading heath]

Team 1 Emilia and Noise died after shield went down, Noah Biscuit Centi were alive from invincibility, and I killed Jackal, SbS, Blanc with the nuke

[umbral crown]

whats your emilia investment

[lone sequoia]

my rookie team is scarlet/xanne/rh/centi/jackal

[fading heath]

7/7/7

[umbral crown]

nice

[fading heath]

I'm thinking of prob maxing her burst

[umbral crown]

ATK and charge speed if you OL

[fading heath]

To feel more comfy

[umbral crown]

its up to you

[feral thistle]

can you guys help me build a decent pvp arena for rookie?

[umbral crown]

mine is max skills comfy all the way

[lone sequoia]

just try emi team with blanc-- emi/blanc/rh/biscuit/jackal or blanc/emi/rh/biscuit/centi

[umbral crown]

whats your rosy investment

[lone sequoia]

full electric team (?

[umbral crown]

also can you show us without selecting anyone¡

[feral thistle]

you mean rossana?

[umbral crown]

yes

[umbral crown]

S.Anis buffing full electric team

[glad meteor]

Do people’s red hood kill sanis pre burst if in a team with full RLs?

[fading heath]

Is Emilia the best dps against stall teams like Noah and Blanc indom? I'll keep it in mind if I see a similar team

[umbral crown]

i onced thought making a team full electric

[umbral crown]

yeah, you just need to match their speed with noah

and burst can clean them

[lone sequoia]

also your sbs team looks good if the people in your arena group don't use blanc or noah/biscuit

[feral thistle]

my investment in rossana

[umbral crown]

you have more nikkes besides the ones in the pic?

[umbral crown]

she needs more love to shine, heavy investment

[feral thistle]

yeap

[lone sequoia]

against that team you need more ammo units (ar-mg) or scarlet will kill emi when blanc burst end or go with noah/biscuit at the same speed

[umbral crown]

Blanc-S.Anis-Red Hood-Biscuit-Centi

[feral thistle]

ill try that comp-!

thanks dude

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

[lone sequoia]

noah/biscuit tank sbs normal atks and since distributed damage depends on the damage received by the target, you do 0 against biscuit S2

[remote pumice]

anyone here could help me build a pvp team for rookie arena?

[umbral crown]

go with: Blanc -Emila-Red Hood-Biscuit-Jackal

[umbral crown]

Blanc-Emilia-Red Hood-Noir-Centi

[lone sequoia]

sorry, i thought it was a def team

[feral thistle]

i should use the same for defense right?

[umbral crown]

yeha, was meant for defense