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how the sht did i get 0 rocks today
New DEF options for SP? Ein is 10/10/10 currently. Overloading this week.
i bet @pastel narwhal will get 2 rocks today
Is your current DEF losing a lot ?

yup.
hm
DEF 1
Jackal/Scarlet/Drake/Poli/Tia
Blanc/Emilia/Sugar/RH/Pepper
Noah/Rapunzel/S.Anis/Biscuit/Centi
DEF 2
Scarlet/Rapunzel/Jackal/Poli/Sugar
Blanc/Scalter/RH/Centi/Pepper
Noise/Biscuit/S.Anis/Emilia/Anis
these 2 are losing against Top #2 and #5
those teams looks like were not made by me
both zixk teams im pretty sure


yeahi never use Jackal P3
tank scarlet but no rosanna or deadp2
Is Laplace+?
Is emi 4/7/7, 21 or 24.7?
Do you have Bay?
now the secret of the universe(?
no Bay
Mostly everything below line 2 is not overloaded.
except jackal an Anis, they are 4/4/4/4
Oh and Ein but she has skills on 10
hm in that case
2RL noah/laplace-scarlet/jackal/SG/rosanna and emi/blanc (?
is laplace+?
What def teams do they run? Have they ever run a god comp? Bc I would test out their overall pvp knowledge with a comp like this:
Noah/Biscuit/Emilia/RH/Tia
Scarlet/Blanc/Anis/Liter/Jackal
Noise/Poli/Sanis/Rapunzel/Centi
also, is your ein so low CP that she's not even in the pic?
OL(?
sp - def // variation :
noah/noise/s.anis/biscuit/rapunzel
ein/blanc/rapunzel/emilia/jackal
scarlet/drake/pepper/poli/sugar
min. invest :
ein - 10/10/10 (ideal) - you already satisfy.
s.anis - 7/7/9 (min.) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
s.anis - resilience cube
quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel
tempering cube (not urgent, take your time with this) at your own discretion, priority: noah > blanc > other def taunters & units as required.
i do not advise running def teams on atk.
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order
actually
It's 3.5RL
it's too slow
t3 needs a B1 
So true @copper creek
omg 
has anyone tested double buffed indom ein jackal against god comps?
editing one sec
random xmica
I do! I beleive in evruyones magic here
are those the only 2 teams you've tested? or have you used other def teams previously
Always appreciate everyone's input.
wait, dont use mine yet, am editing
dont refer first i didnt mean to press enter button
oh interesting...
Need al the help playing agaunst P2W
isn't ein just better than scarlet in double buff indom setup then?
more damage in full burst window
I know who to work on next
When is the next reform for sp?
taunt
can the same noah biscuit counter also counter indom scar variant?
not my 10/10/10 modernia š
edited @eternal finch
depends in p2 and scarlet damage/ammo
@umbral crown I just realized Noir has very low HP
: so I replaced her with Rapunzel and still isn't enough 
im not giving u standard comps cuz im assuming zixk already gave u all of it and u went through all of it like a cat in heat already
Feather gets immediately taunted
The true damage 300% Nuke basically hits too hard
Actually... Sugar is 10/10/10... I think I should have reseted her
what invest does ein need to perform? pls don't tell me it's 10/10/10 
at least to the level that emi and scar can perform at 4/7/7 and 7/4/7 respectively
[1] is against scar/blanc/rh/emi/jackal comp
[2] is onebuff ein vs. team with no sustain
I assume liter b1 isn't very viable due to buff running out before a lot of her dmg?

if thats slow for you, go get more units
i did that

attackers do not have very high hp values
Red Hood and Emilia has them 
Is there any advantage on going 10/10/10 on PVP characters?
By that I mean A or B tier characters.
dps and support
HP% value or just damage
maybe better to ask about specific characters
true
that net is too wide
Like healers for example Nise or rpaunzel
Nevermind, Rapunzel has enough HP to surpass Emilia
hp%
mostly for cp and to heal more
whether that additional healing is worth that investment? it depends
for 99% of players - no

im part of that 1% waos
even my rapunzel is 4/4/5 only lol

no u're definitely not
you do that mostly only if people whacking u hit very hard
which is not my case
if the ppl in ur bracket dont force ur hand, usually not necessary lol
but yeah even my rapunzel & noise are 4/4/5 only
i think for newer players - if your sync starts with 2, probably no need for it lol
rapu 10/5/6
3 teams def SP pls
can't you just keep ein away from p1/p2 to avoid the initial feathers getting taunted?
didnt work out for me
Send a video here, lemme see as well
7/5/6 mine is i think
yeah I don't lvl skills on my support pvp characters more than 4/4/4 max unless I need to
Cocoa at number 1 in power 
holy sht i cant believe this
im actually running out of BD
seems like the 10 true dmg hits from ult don't get taunted?
No Cocoa? 

Current SP Arena defense:
Moran / Biscuit / SBS / Pepper / Centi
Scarlet / Poli / Laplace / Rosanna / Jackal
Blanc / Emilia / RH / Drake / Noir
Is there anyway I can make this better?
it work again, after upgrade emi s1 from 9-10
is it losing a lot ?
yeah
whats ur rosanna and emi invest?
is your laplace+?
sp - def :
blanc/emilia/rh/laplace+/noir
scarlet/scalter/poli/liter/jackal
bay/noise/s.anis/biscuit/centi
min. invest :
emilia - 4/7/7
s.anis - 7/7/9 (min.) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
s.anis - resilience cube
please :
ping me when you get noah, we can recook this immediately & easily.
quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel
tempering cube (not urgent, take your time with this) at your own discretion, priority: noah > blanc > other def taunters & units as required.
i do not advise running def teams on atk.
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order
wait one sec
wow! so much detail. thanks a lot!! xD
edited for more cp
wanted to see how fights go bc c4 changed teams for like 9th time bc of me but iphone which hates nikke closed the game before they even started
didnāt see anything but won
also he copied me but put rh instead of ros 
I just got Moran and Sugar and atm my SAnis is 6/7/7, should I change my teams?
if u think i wonāt be able to counter that slightly edited copy - think again 
https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1268318479321403403
put this in #1047834285287166013 because im getting extremely annoyed by this lol
is ur current def losing a lot?
mouse what is mouse
accidentally threw it out during cleaning
no mouse no problems
i am sure this is fine but want to double check. its good to attack?
swap t1 and t2
liter on blanc team -> rh
t1 u should win with cp deficit
actually wait
yeah should be fine
idk im in the toilet but eh
No change needed and I can go with my original team or your edited version??
no not yet, the season just started and I'm 2nd and above players with a 10-15% higher cp so I'm scared
eeey š
@worn field Thanks so much for the help yesterday! I ended up breaking top 10 with the suggested teams!
Possible teams for SP arena?
Note: Laplace & Exia both have treasure and Alice is fully invested
had to tix last copy bc it didnāt want to drop after previous 2 & no gems anymore, but finally mlb 
We all love leviathans

Araragi Koyomi
sorry this question has probably been asked a bunch but is there a minimum S.Anis' skills should be before putting her in Special Areana? I've gotten mine to 7/8/7 so far
7/7/9
Pref get her burst to 9^
ok cool thank you both so much !
curious if there's i should/could change appart from just leveling synchro
I think this is ok to attack but want to check anyway.
SP arena def teams?
anyone know how the SP arena players are grouped together?
last SP arena, I was 390k, almost 400k. My opponents were most 420k to 490k with a few 500-502k+
current SP arena, I am now at 420k~. My opponents are mostly 450k-520k, with rarity of below 450k, some even 530k+ and even saw a few 600k
it seems for the past SP arenas, I have been in the lower percentage tile in CP, my ranking constantly consist in the Top 31-60 range...
I checked with other chats and thats what they said... but it feels so uncanny that every refresh somehow im always at the lower percentile even when I broke the 160 wall, the next SP I immediately get pushed down to the lower CP level
I must be in a god damn group that is whales
Yeah. Can just check user id. For example, Iām 00017 ish and I get only people in the 00017ās.
Sometimes it will range out of that like 00018 and such.
I see, I checked and it matches mines 04.... and everyone there is 04...
guess I forever earning that 1600 gems rip
By any chance are you missing out on core dust from co-op or not spending tickets to farm hard event 1-11 since you started the game
Thatās if itās synchro, if not synchro itās OL + doll diff
its probably OL + doll difference and luck
Morning , my attack roster okay ? Sp arena
t1 yes, your t3 is slower than theirs but with that deficit on their side & only 1 buffer technically it shouldnāt be able to nuke your whole team 
t1 & t3 won, thank
are you 2 fighting for c7 again 
i alr memorized this shira person from all your previous ss
YES
I am trying two @umbral crown 's cook for defend
Hopefully give him a hard time
He will attack me within 30min-1hour, that fellow
gl 
@umbral crown @velvet sky I trying defend :
Noah/Rapuznel/S.Anis/Biscuit/Noise
Blanc/Emilia/Red Hood/Sugar/Drake
Scarlet/X.Anne/Centi/Noir/Jackal
ik dat feel, me & c4 be like
started checking everything every hour again bc of me 
My C8-C7 is as stress as your C4


Truly brainded strategy
You are giving them ideas
"If you can't beat them, just join them"
You giving him idea
doubt anythingās gonna change for me unfortunately 
My team straight forward, most are pve nikkes
must be out of ideas after changing everything x9 times bc of me

So its a easy copy if he wanted to
omg we're twinsies @velvet sky

since it's more active now should I change anything here? :3
1 rock , 1 tetra chest anf 1 pilgrim chest
Real stonk today
Now Rosy missing just boots
To OL

Hello! I am seeking advice on arena team building. Is this the spot or should I go to the team building tab?
it is
Awesome. The first picture is my Rookie Arena team and the following 3 are my special arena teams.
And this is my roster, any recommended changes?
Continued
Will the opponent's Biscuit proc her skill if i can bomb their team?
SP (DEF)
Jackal/Scarlet/Scalter/X.Anne/Anis
Blanc/Emilia/Rapunzel/Noir/B.Soda
Noah/Noise/S.Anis/Biscuit/Centi
can anyone help me build 3 defense teams for sp >_<
Appreciate it mate.
b.soda is clip sg ?
she is
waos, so sad. im getting at least 1 daily
lastly
can you send it again but without shorting by rarity but for power. all together
okay
no need to select by burst btw
nice
Current denfense
Since no one answer my question yesterday
ask again
is 36.25% atk is enough for rossana?
yeah
Moran takes noise place , noise replaces liter
I just replace
it is
Thank you
my defense seen not working, people 20 level lower than me still get me easily (arena jan 2024)
Noah-Noise-S,Anis-Biscuit-Pepper
Blanc-Emilia-Red Hood-Noir-Centi
Scarlet-Scalter-Bay-Liter-Jackal
try these comps
will try! thanks'
if these start to lose a lot you can ask again and we could give you a different one
Its only 2 guy who attack me all the time
any time, ideal is having over 30% since people are using dolls in their pvp units
i am rank 6 and its people from rank 8 and 7
How big is the CP difference
if you happen to get more attack would be even better
15.4% and after that things start to get rough
I can tackle down lv 150 easily with lv120 team due to 0 deficit in CP
in levels its mostly after 40 levels gap
It's for C3 position
also you learn how to fight comps
I can't beat C1 bcoz they're crazy whale with full pilgrims lmao

i onced went against scarlet god comp , i mirrored and use rapunzel, they did not have her
won by sustain
i tend to do crazy things sometimes
I can take C2 but im gonna lose on the amount of retry
Your server have many low cp players
Sometimes it's better to stay low
is your defense holding you well?
and let the top fighting each other
My server C1-C3 as high as 2.1B defence cp
Bruh
When did you start?
Dude failed to attack me for C3, but he's won over C2 lmao
i started at August
maybe your line up is better than C2
Day 1 player
But I started playing pvp - 2 months ago

As in semi-competitively
Any thoughts on my Rookie Arena team, or is it good as is?
2 whales on top
my dee, how you leave RH our if his teams
C2 def is easy but im losing to amount of Dias that he use

Mine now
i copypasta what Zixk cooked for me
Looks like whale bracket XD
what works for you not always works for everyone

Yeah thats how scary my server is
but it didn't work for me
I am in C7 Im happy enough, as my current situation
,at nikke tab on lobby, in-game settings > nearby > horizonal if on mobile and sort by power only.
can you do it this way, easier to suggest teams
I m still waiting for him to attack your def comp
So far your 1 comp very effective

Sure. Should I do that and repost roster?


I put attemp is he took how many to beat
Is there cook no.5 ? 
Let see if u wanna cook 5th dish for my use
but first lets wait till he tries all cooks
š 
Alright, I think I did it correctly?
yeah
Noah-Noise-S.Anis-Biscuit-Pepper
Blanc-Emilia-Red Hood-Noir-Centi
Scarlet-Scalter-X.Anne-Liter-Jackal
Emilia investment 4-7-7
X.Anne- burst to 5
S.Anis 7-7-9 or 10-10-9
Quatum cube on Centi and Jackal
S.Anis with Resilence
Emilia adjuntand or Vigor
Thanks mate, my S Anis and X Anne have been invested into. I'll get my Emilia up.
No Scarlet, Anne
Rosa is well built ( 7-8-10 )
Need def team, I skip team 1, win team 2 3
mind share your xanne build ?
What about Rookie Arena?
I definitely misspoke, my X Anne is only 1-1-6, my S. Anis is fully built. Sorry about that.
How to defeat Biscuit while not having Biscuit?

sadly, these teams also lost to the main 2 players. that attack me constantly.
for me skip team 1 by putting 1 unit in P5
Team 2 looks fine
Team 3 you could try: Scalter-Noah-Rosanna-Anis-Jackal
check if not on deficit, im counting your rosanna is well invested with at least 20% attack but i really recommend get over 30%
Blanc-Emilia-Red Hood-Biscuit-Jackal
or even this in case the first one starts to lose: Scarlet-Blanc-Red Hood-Emilia-Jackal

@umbral crown He beaten this in 2 attempts
@umbral crown
Moran-Pepper-S.Anis-Biscuit-Centi
Ein-Blanc-Red Hood-Sugar-Jackal
Noah-Noise-Privaty-Emilia-Noir
try these comps
teams looks fine, go for it

team 3 you will be winning since enemy facing your team at 20% deficit
team 1 at 13.5%
and you will burst faster with jackal there since they have 2 SG and crown
1 sg
bsoda
yes
@umbral crown using your cook no.4 now as defence
Might need your no.5 sooner
That is the plan
I think this guy will target me until the end of time š
I canāt react because Iāll be busy today and tomorrow, but he already got knocked down to Diamond 4, so he may try to hit me up again š
Iām currently at Diamond 3 after he hit me up again this morning


waos
@umbral crown in case you need it

I got a feeling you will cook no.6-no.7 in next few days but my comp is limited theres not much choices
lmao now beating my copypaster became problematic bc t1 isnāt hard but t2 now whiffs and loses when it was winning previously 
then soon start workin mor eon pvp units like moran , ein and also giving dolls to your main dps units
for a change
Limited dolls but I try. So far SR15 dolls are sbs & rh
ein & moran very worth ? pvp wise
I thinking to treasure lap > diesel too
resources too low
Moran is but Ein i would say still in the testing phase
Oh yeah, that will help
š
š
Moran a good unit to pair with S.Anis comp
You have ones? 
You do not?
Will look into it. I have 1 copy moran
I can only even afford level 5 and I'm already running out of blue mats
What you do with Purple and the SSR one?
Do not tell me... hoarding them as well
Nikke 50
I would say 7/7/7
Keripo matrix says 4/7/10
C'mon, have mercy
20% is too scary to even use it with blue ones already


letās try this now
tho my ros canāt fully nuke his rh anymore after he went over lvl 358, it was ez before 
But 7/7/7 is not really expensive in some way

Quite heavy for me HAHA
BEcause my mats running really low
Start saving books
Same here
I would reset pve units but i k ow you would not do that
I 777 on ssakura and srosanna recently that is why
Yes I wont do that, Im on hard 26 now, going to 27

Its my union's requirement
Nice

Pve units?
hard mode

in order for members to "active" they set hard mode seasonal as a bracket

Its super tough for f2p player but manageable
No its fine you are pvp veterans you are great
Im a bit more to pve
would letting noise or rapu burst in a noah/noise/biscuit/sanis/rapu setup be better 
Rapu isn't made for burst 
I attack a comp before their noise dead first then rapu burst to revive noise
But you can always test attacks on rookie
nah itās cursed 
also, has anyone had issues with crown scarlet?
or is it no longer an issue? (crown burst buff not applying in time)
I don't test that enough
@worn field do you know if any other tests have been done regarding crown scarlet? Last I remember it's mostly consistent, but it sometimes doesn't apply in time. Have there been any new developments? Any ways to make sure it applies in time?
apparently putting rh on p5 was the solulu
yeah she was targeted on p4 so had to swap everything, also wanna swap centi from t1 with anis to prolong rhās burst here but that might potentially screw me over so idk 
at least on p5 sheās now 0 damage 
well almost anyway 
but on p4 she got obliterated
This is enough? @coarse lake
yeah should be fine
like 
Is this possible or cp deficit too high?
I think it was due to your RH attacking noah asap here
possibly due to the shooting range thingy
by getting RH stuck on their P5 jackal, it killed off their scarlet much faster (since linked)
watched it closely and yeah true, got stuck on wrong target before
now will be paying attention whether jackal targeting from p5 will be consistent or not since thatās what i need 
You never know, he could be secretly watching you chat here
do the shooting range or mock interception trick to get RH stuck on p5
so like go into shooting range, load & exit? 
yeah load into a fight, then exit the fight
Tbf, I want devs to fix that one already.. its already weird RH not getting taunted by Noah 

they got way more pressing issues to fix, a bug like that which can be turned into a feature is very low prio
and honestly I kinda like it, gives RH more use in pvp
should I file report about that trick? i feel I'll get a lot of hate if I do 
Though kidding aside, no one reported that yet even until now?
someone probably has reported it already
although I don't think reporting bugs for pvp results in anything
my theory is that the devs themselves dunno how a bug happens, so they dunno how to fix
I mean just a vid of RH ignoring Noah is already something they should look into
the RH one is about how going into pve fights affects RH targeting in pvp, which is really weird
I'm not a coder, but I don't think 2 separate gamemodes should be connected like that
honestly fixing or bandaging target issues is simpler
just do a force reset of each SP fight to their default targeting before each fight (like in rookie)
Coz it ignores taunt, random targetting by RH is fine, if no taunt, but they should stick to the rule, someone taunts, they should stick to that taunter
Else what purpose do you even use a taunter for 
yeah a taunt not taunting if you do something specific beforehand is really weird
their pvp code is just a complete mess, intertwined with pve somehow, has weird bugs that pop up or mutate every few patches

honestly might be better if they recode pvp so it works properly before they launch champ arena
or just slap in bandage fixes
wait has anyone tested if doing a pve fight (shooting range/intercept) before a SP fight affects targeting
like random target issues we get
Say, do you think Ein's feather will ignore taunt too if you do range trick.. since she is also an SR 
good question
my guess is no, since the drones prob have separate target ai, but who knows
Sadly I have no Ein to test it š
Before disaster 
Those CP levels...tempting

I got a cook if you wanna try it out:
Noah/Noise/Sanis/Biscuit/Tia (lvl 3+ Quantum on Noah)
Blanc/Emilia/RH/Anis/Bscar
Scarlet/Xanne/Rapunzel/Centi/Jackal (Quantum on as many as you can (except scarlet))
replace rapunzel with rosanna if you got one high invest
My anis t9m 444 , ok ?
yeah that's fine, as long as she doesn't drag the team's cp down too much
if you got treasure laplace you can replace tia with her
That's fine, eventually you'll want her S3 to be at least 9
regular anis doesn't need skill invest
I think @coarse lake mean OG anis
yeah I mean regular, not sanis
I shall try
Come join me in NA, 70 level gap
Thanks, CP a bit lower but should be a ok defense comp
i'd be surprised if #1 wasn't from China
Anyone
Use your scar team against their Sanis team
1 day reset be likeš«¦
hi guys, will it be better if ros-anis-sbs-sanis-jack?
If Sanis and Bscar are highest atk, Sanis/Bscar/Anis/Rosanna/Jackal
If Rosanna and Bscar are highest atk, Keep current order if you want Sanis to burst
what the, rosanna high attack mean shes a dps ?
Im abit lost
Means she'll be linked
Causes issues if you want Rosanna to burst, to have conceal, and have Sanis burst
Can't get all 3
Well you can if you have unlinked p1 Sanis, who will die fast
that c4 sent a friend request
is that a threat now
Mean if want jackal to link , have to be highest attk to be p1 & p2 ?
or wants to see when exactly Iām online easier 
not like i have any free slots anyway 
stalker smh
was too obvious i guess
i used to do that to see ppls' login time 
union log probably more discreet tho š¤£
have a seperate device nikke and leave it on, i dont think they can see u login right away
my ipad with nikke on just turn the screen on

he thinks Iām dumb
like i see what youāre trying to pull off there
i dont believe crown s1 affects scarlet nuke? if thats what u're asking?
but tbh active participants like us
they dont even need to do it in such a troublesome way
just see our online status on discord š¤£
next time i blink and he smh sends me a friend request here too 
to stalk me here as well 
sarariman 2.0 go away shoo
Thx
i could but kinda donāt rlly wanna to gem literally every 30 mins - 1 h 
why not? š¤£
man my january-april bracket... got hit 50 times in 4 days... good times
u could enjoy good times too š¤£
no gems to gem 
"With this, we can solve just about anything"
i donāt really care abt pvp that much to waste money on it, itās not even c1 
liar š¤£
can anyone help me create 3 team for arena? 
show box
might seriously quit it soon tbh or like do bare minimum there bc screw it, Iām tired of checking this sht every 2h & constantly fending off whale attacks 
like no theyāre never gonna let me chill
give me dead bracket pls
first we feud with that stalker for c4, then c8 always wants my c7 when stalker takes c4 back
it must be stressful having to login to nikke every few hours to maintain your position, as well as spending unnecessary gems. that's why i intentionally stay within the top 10 instead of aiming for top 3 lol
So I beat this guy earlier with the same team and he just switched 1/2 Nikes in each team. Can I just use the same team and beat him? @coarse lake
For my case is not top 3, is just top 8. @velvet sky & @umbral crown knows
We are fighting like mad for just C7
idk why c8ās canāt just sit there like c8 & c7 are basically same rewards unlike c8 > c5 
got a bad habit of logging in every few hours and pvp arena is going to make me grey before i'm 30 lol
C7 is the peak of 2400 gem
why bother wasting so many gems
I dont think I am at disadvantage
Come I show you two days ago
he must be a whale if he doesn't care about gems

losing that many times would give the opponent a huge ego boost lol
All the defence cooks by @umbral crown tq @umbral crown
THat is the plan. Continue to cook new sp comp for him to spend on
what is your sync lvl?
406
atp i just use whales as my personal testing ground to see which def comps flop miserably & which are more or less fine against them 
My bracket this season.
you're good man
full send
I'd expect old brackets like to get tired at some point like mine did... I remember gemming at some point and then everybody got tired and stopped spending, i guess it doesn't apply to all
My server is World War Nikke right now
i started French Revolution namely bruteforced my way into challenger & everyone started jumping higher too bc of that 
Need team deff for againts meta team scarlet fast burst
Noah sanis
Blanc emi

holy sht 2min44sec š¤£
you need some of this 
jeez
Think you can cook a good SP arena team from this ALT box of mine @copper creek
Current SP arena defense team:
Noah / Biscuit / SBS / Pepper / Centi
Scarlet / Poli / Laplace (treasure) / Rosanna / Jackal
Blanc / Emilia / RH / Drake / Noir
Roseanna is 4/1/1 Tier 9
Tim 1 noah noise sanis biscuit centi
Tim 2 scarlet xanne/poli rosana noir jackal
Tim 3 blanc emi rh rapun anis
I dont have centi
Tia work
thats what they all say 
then they get dead bedroom and they regret it after 
SORRY
DEAD BRACKET*
Team 1 and 3 lost Team 2 won
ok backlog time before i go drink
dead bedroom is me rn in bed but still didnāt even sleep yet at almost 12 am 
dead bedroom means something else actually 
wait wat 12am ? where the hell in eu is 12am
The key is faster burst
I use lv 10 cube burst
oh eon was here im assuming the backlog was cleared
have u tried? if yes, did this win?
Yeah I won but lost scarlet early though
sp - attack :
t1 : skip <place 1 nikke on p5>
t2 : scarlet/blanc/rh/noir/jackal
t3 : noah/noise/sbs/anis/emilia
calculate deficit before attacking.
do not proceed if penalty.
Winner winner
PM and AM different lah
sp - def // variation :
s.sakura/blanc/rh/emilia/centi
noah/noise/s.anis/biscuit/tia
jackal/scarlet/scalter/poli/la++
min. invest :
emilia - 4/7/7
s.anis - 7/7/9 (min.) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
s.anis - resilience cube
quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel
tempering cube (not urgent, take your time with this) at your own discretion, priority: noah > blanc > other def taunters & units as required.
i do not advise running def teams on atk.
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order
lol Iām late to the party today
No rocks
No T9M gear
Swift kick in the pants by the game today
All I could do was get Centi to OL+0 for one of her gears (now she has 3 total)
Is it morning for most?
Itās 6pm here
edited @wise horizon may or may not work but this is just weird sht cuz i think u used all the generic stuff already
Getting my lazy butt to the gym before dinner
Anything is good to be honest. Gives opponents stuff to think about
actually its not that weird
I tested this team, and this Noise/Dolla/Helm/Leona/Tia isn't even able to enter burst mode and loses everything 
that last team is high copium because u dont have enough nikkes to make anything decent on t3
sry edited again
your rosanna nowhere near sufficient investment
What is the minimal OG rosanna investment ?
He does have Jackal, tho
He could insert her to at least burst a lil more
4/4-7/10 AND 30%+ ATK on OL
if you are matched against crazy players with 15x SR dolls, closer to 50% ATK on OLs
Woa 30% attack on OL
But yeah need more units
b7 is enough to kill emilia, but i would not advise that
my own experience is anything less than full invest on rosanna ends up causing more problems than it solved
Yikes.
the good news is 99.9% of people here do not need a fully-invested rosanna
i am included in that 99.9
I lived that experience for 2-3 weeks
Gotta be careful if you donāt have burst 10 and you expect to bust down an opponentās def door

yea cuz its like
my rosanna killed their emilia
now their rh b1+b2+b3 and if i didnt have an immediate answer to that, i never will live long enough to come up with one
The thing I learned about Rosanna is, if you donāt take care of business after her B1, and you donāt have a good dps backing her up, you gonna lose at the end
So moran is the way yeah ?
me from 0.1% 
no
who needs 50+% atk 
What , I 've been told to invest in moran for pvp
if u are up against full sr15 doll team, yes
told by who
@umbral crown
rosy? 
forgive me for asking š¤£
4/7/7-10 moran if u're using her standalone, yes,
but, again, most people here will never ever use her standalone
if u're using moran+biscuit like most people are? 444 enough
between rosy and moran i would invest rosy first
thatās my whole cursed jp bracket 
Yes moran+bisc I believe
I see.
the really sad cursed bracket is @drifting jasper lol
he's up against full cartel of fully invested rosannas and hes my sync level
1/1/1 lol
not using her
i reset her for ein mats
Mean ein is priority
Please tell me if Ein fever has really started
@umbral crown is a pure pvp player and gives 0 sht about pve
i have to balance my investment because i push raids AND pvp
so naturally what he and i do will be very different
Okay
Understand already
doesnt mean one is correct and one is wrong, u just do whatever fits your use case
rosy uses a lot of niche pvp investment to keep people on their toes
I guess Rosy said is correct earlier
The only non-pvp thing I did in recent times is get Tia to 9/4/4
if u are pure pvp, rosanna first then moran
Im a pve / SR chaser, I just started pvp 2 months ago+
yea then invest in ur pve first
That is what Iām doing to
because I am a @umbral crown disciple

It is nice to have most DPS at max or near max stats and gear before going full pvp
I had RH/Scalter/Scarlet at optimal stats before I even visited this channel
I canāt imagine how much more grinding I would have to do if I didnāt
Help me cook a def team
if u rly want to be horrible to deal with in pvp then invest in rosanna first lol
moran less so
I do need Ein
But Moran is next for me
Because I am a @umbral crown disciple
whats ur emi invest?
is ur laplace+?
those guys dont SR š¤£
I thought everyone trying to get top 3% SR lol
I see, sigh less mats, SR is around the corner too.
I have 29.67% cs 
I hate competitive solo raid because it takes sooooo long
I also know I donāt have invested pve units like DKW, Maid Privaty, etc to do well
Its okay, SR is not easy to get past 3%
Does your burst come out in time when you deal with Noah?
Yes, always
Yeah, I think what I do nowadays is play SR competitive the first day I can (where it counts your performance vs everyone) and the last day if I remember
The rest of the days I enjoy life š
But if i use adjutant cube it will do no dmg cuz she charges too fast xd
With the cs stuff being so weird and buggy, I try not to mess with it much
I heard people say keep Emilia at 21% cs as best as you can, and thatās what I did
So i think the ideal cs for emil is around 28%
first day gives you false hopes
then last day hits you hard making you realize you spent too much on pvp
no pressure lol
not super important imo

š
no comment
im one of those ass holes that only use their real comp on last day š¤£š¤£
I do like solo raid to get doll mats, though
I like your way of thinking 
but yea before u throw mats now, consider trying for SR
this season's frame3 is pretty
Although I admit sometimes I check out what people use for their teams on sr
That part is interesting because I want to learn more about what the characters can and canāt do
i think everyone's teams are fully optimized by last day anyway
day1 is just everyone else feeling the boss first
Yeah ! Very pretty
Is there a pic of this frame?
Anyway someone help me cook it
yes, plz wait a bit xd
You can def do a scary core+ team
kinda spikey for my taste
with noah + biscuit
Frame of whale
thanks @pastel narwhal 
That is some bling right there
If only PvP gave you cool frame
maybe as champion's reward, but there'll be blood , lots of blood
or hilarious titles
I canāt think of any rn
I switched to this team; maybe it will work better
The easiest just "Challenger" title
Champion winner probably will get "Champion" title
Burst will still be low
"I hate pvp" 
Doesnt work tho
sp - def :
blanc/emilia/rh/alice/centi
noah/noise/s.anis/biscuit/rapunzel
jackal/scarlet/scalter/x.anne/laplace
min. invest :
laplace+
emilia - 4/7/7
s.anis - 7/7/9 (min.) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
s.anis - resilience cube
x.anne - burst to 4+
quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel
tempering cube (not urgent, take your time with this) at your own discretion, priority: noah > blanc > other def taunters & units as required.
i do not advise running def teams on atk.
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order
"You're the challenger here
"
sounds like u need to go to c1
Upper challenger has more meta units than me and/or CP suppresses me š
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git gud
just beat them anyway
as long as only one team deficit u can do it
Can get C1, but not for long
Sadly,i can't
That's why I've been waiting for SR to get more dolls
Yeah with Jackel it might be possible now
Whatās your Jackal invest so far?
I know you just got her
Which cube should scalter use?
3/3/3, have 3 lvl 3 T9M equipped, lvl 1 blue doll
Better than what I have
anything i didnt explicitly mention - pve cube
Except for skills (5/5/5)
I think she only needs CP pad anyway
Yeah she is low maintenance
I do have her at core+5 tho
no I donāt whale lol
Iām f2p I just got really lucky with her since the beginning
Okay i will wait for the result
this is generic team tbh, it it lose a lot we can just remake
plz dont expect too much from def anyway
def is guaranteed loss if atker knows what they're doing
or if they have a zixk in their pocket
or cp gap
or the saddest case that just happened earlier
i cooked someone a def here, someone in my union asked me to help beat it
š
Btw i used 2RL scarlet team and i still lose to jackal/blanc/scarlet/drake/anis
Kinda weird
yea sounds about right, i dont like to use 2rl scarlet lol
Just wait when someone asking comp for champion arena
Is it that bad? 
because at 2rl scarlet has less selfbuff stacks
When union is full of skill issue
(mine is full of french casuals)
I use rh when having scarlet with centi/jackal/anis
your union is a literal skill issue bro, why u talkin sht š¤£š¤£š¤£
My scarlet has 3 11%+ atk rolls + 2 elemental + 3ammo tho
But yeah if I canāt kill I die quick
And x anne burst is lv 8
Because i'm the only one that tryhards there
I have a right to do that,y'know
go find new union
Already did
i help with 2 casual unions and gonna jump into a semicomp one
Only have to wait till union rewards are out
but still chat and help casual union cuz nice ppl lol
Yeah I know
I can probably get Quantum and Vigor to lvl 6 now
I love my new union
Just finished bastion to lvl 7
I have to think hard what I want to get to lvl 7 for next time
Bastion, Quantum, Vigor
Resilience is at lvl 8
My gut feeling says Quantum
Are they bringing up the level caps for the cubes? I donāt know what level we can go up to currently, but I heard that they were going to add more slots?
chat I need help for building team for pvp
You're cooked

how old your acc?
Chainsaw man collab release minimum
i think this attack loses right?
He has power
Try put scarlet at p1
That's already few months ago
Also, probably,there is cp difference
Idk if he still can get the top pvp
its within the stat penalty cut off atleast
Chainsaw man is a year old iirc
ty won forgot about scar dmg reflect
14.2 cp diff, 0 deficit penalty
when did crown came out
However you might having a hard time if you failed to Nuke them
Since there's Jackal and Blanc
april i think? did you take a long hiatus or something?
That's though
I played when chainsaw man came out but I stopped playing, then started again when crown came out
hopefully you got moved to a dead bracket
There is a rupee before vlanc

It's hard to do PvP as returnee
the bracket changes for each season?
oh ye
i still see similar names pvp in my leaderboard
I'll skip pvp then
give it a try first, see how far you can go, there's not a lot of reliable gem source after you get walled in campaign or tower

there are volunteers here who likes cooking teams, just wait a bit and they'll tag u
okie
guys with ones should be my teams for arena ?
i would give u sht for being a union-hopper but arguably im the same š¤£
anyways, have a good evening everyone! \o/
i think this is good but need a second opinion before I attack? @copper creek @spice trellis @umbral crown
Hi, could someone help me understand why I can't beat the guy on the top there?
I've in that union since i start playing,cut me some slack
U dont have healer. He has healer. He out damage you by healing
Hey guys, I need help building new teams for Rookie Arena and SP Arena.
I'll send in my current teams and collection.
Long time no see,gold now?
oh sht, what's the best healer here?
Green gold š
Also, long time no see. How you doing?
Fine
Rapunzel obv
got it, over jackel?
This is my current team for Rookie Arena, any changes with the new NIKKEs I got overtime?
And here's the 3 SP Arena ones too. (also I use same for ATK and DEF)
Discord image bundling really sucks man ^
In any case, hoping to get any sorta feedback and advice on whether I should or should not change these teams. Thanks!
@raven sparrow 
Relax, none of us are breaking season (not temporary) top 10 with all those whales in our group. Just coast your way to top 30 for 2k gems 
I tend to hit back the people who hit me multiple times btw, don't take it personally

Haha youāre chilling. Idc as long as i can coast diamond 3+. And yeah we got mega whales in our group
yeah we do lol
at this point, i've given up on tryharding it lol... top 30 is good enough as i don't really plan to invest that much into this game
If your Sanis can survive without jackal, yes
Better ask others, since I'm not PvP god
For now, switch rapunzel and tia. Until somebody cooks a sp def
Are my chances good with this matchup?
Trying to hit up new people to learn and get better
Updated box
Put scarlet team at t1(2 sg units=scarlet s2 pops off),t3 should work since it's rh who bursts
Thank you @lunar dirge will give it a go
got stun locked trying to understand why there was a liter in their t3

bro got oblitrated
Yeah, but I tried
No shame in that
t1 was just too much of a deficit
t3 I wonder if I should have used Emilia instead of S.Anis
It's 24% cp deficit
I knew that
Shouldnāt red hood burst against noah biscuit, and emi does a lot of sub damage to p2 when thereās RLs
Red hood has extended range so from that angle sheāll hit p2, and paired with RLs that have attack buffs, p2 is dead
Just put Noise in Jackal slots.
If I were u I would use whoever with high CP. Avoid MG obviously
I see what you mean⦠lesson learned
Also, I didnāt realize RH would do B3. I thought she would only do B1 and let S.Anis do B3 after Noah, but thatās my inexperience
Thank you for giving me these tips @glad meteor ⦠Iāll try to get better from them
My 2nd try for the day
More learning
Let me know what I did wrong, if you could be so kind
Noah burst gen got buffed, wouldāve worked last patch
Yeah, a shade under Centi, right?
I guess I should treat that as a slight disadvantage for me from now on
Yep, 24 gen
If I try to match Jackal/Centi against Jackal/Noah
if your robanana wanpan cant you just replace anis with blanc
At least I played the last match correctly
Good idea, I will try that
Isnāt team 3 rl then?
Rosanna is 7/10/10
yea its fine his rosanna kills both dps he just need to survive noah biskit jack
the vid shows scarlet slash blocked anyway
but rosanna killed both dps

Maybe I should try another unit instead of Scarlet?
Rosanna target skips to jackal and gives them feed. Making them 2RL
Thatās after 10 attacks. Plus in this fight she target skips to jackal directly so gives gen regardless
Good to know⦠never knew
no just use scarlet if you use RL they might skip to blanc and make the enemy turns 2 RL 
like sbs / emi
Okay, Iāll keep it Scar/Ros/Jack
Iām still new to Rosanna 7/10/10 so itās good to see what I should and shouldnāt do
Are you saying this because of cs bug? (if I used Blanc)
no no its a setup like
emilia / sbs, blanc, rosanna, centi, jack
they might skip emi / sbs and go for blanc, it makes their RL hits 3 units (p2 and splash p1 p3) instead 2 ( p1 and p2), increasing their gen
and at the same time, blanc might die before burst 
ohā¦
I understand the splash damage if p2 is the target
Iām trying to understand why Scarlet at p1 would keep the enemy fire on her, and why would the enemy team focus on Blanc at p2 if I had SBS/Emilia at p1 instead of Scarlet
Sorry for the questions, but I wanna know for sure so that I can learn why it happens
yea at this point its hard to tell if its cs bug, game hates you, or its a normal behavior of RL being skipped 
I just realized the prize for #1 - #3 is the same
Those darn RLs 
Thatās all I needed to know. Thanks for being patient with me @raven plover
ye its way better now, top 10 back then have diff rewards
it used to be worse. At least we can't blame SU for not trying to detox pvp
Then there's no point for me to get #1 
But⦠but bragging rights
top1 is ego trap, #2 is safest
Top 1 is whale stand
and leviathans
indeed
oh viperpog is free now
good thing whale in my bracket is not that active
Didn't notice that rh was before s.anis,my bad,also r1 was bad rng cuz it looked like blanc got focused
S.anis should've been bursting,not rh
this is my team for arena. should i replace moran with noise?
Itās all good. I gotta make sure the main b3 should be further left than rh from now on
And yeah Blanc melted 
Iām gonna try to strengthen Blanc by upgrading her gear (currently only 1 OL +0) and eventually maxing her SR doll
Also you can put dr cube with sr doll on top
guys anyone can help me making my 3 sp arena teams ? i am so bad with pvp and dont know how to build teams well
Blanc emi rh can kill it if you put emi right time when burst
Damage reduction cube over vigor?
I donāt have that cube yet but iām trying to clear all of campaign to get it
If you put sr doll,then probably yes,cuz it's stacks in a curve
Will do my best to clear campaign
No place is safe
Oh interesting. Hatsune Miku back on PVP will try her out.
Will Ein be linked?

What do you mean by link?
okay~ what kind of bar should i go to tonight
whisky lounge? japanese bar? innovative bar? hmm
What kind of bar is an innovative bar?
search fura bar singapore
Jackal links the 2 highest ATK units
Check her S2
Maybe Ein will need a different Set up so she gets the link
futa*(i'm sorry for this one)
Fura Bar looks interesting
They have mealworm margaritas
Well, I guess they tried to sell it
The article Iām browsing said itās not legal in Singapore
ok meanwhile while my own irl party/squad gets together lets clear some backlog
scar in p1 and this wins
u won this already?
noah+noise+biscuit is 2 taunts - classic s.anis counter
match speed with blanc+emilia+rh
lots of other interesting stuff there too
not for the faint-hearted probably
Ah gotcha. I think when Ein goes Overload it will help kore too, right?
What pvp teams do you guys use for SP Arena?
It Depends(TM)
def depends on your box
atk depends on what opponent is running
some weired teams that people are not willing to beat

I have a majority of the units except the Nier and CSM collab, just wondering what units pair up well together. One of my teams is Noise, Noah, Scarlet, Rapunzel, Jackal and it seems solid but unsure what my other 2 teams should be š
not just havinmg the units, its which ones you are investing
I have that and just a team that just stomps based on cp. but I really need to form a 3rd solid team









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