#Hollow Knight

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hushed sable
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it's a shame cause I actually really like ||the groal the great boss itself||

heavy burrow
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||bilewater is like the only area i actively dislike tho||

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||it’s like the deepnest of silksong for me||

hushed sable
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||deepnest if it had an STD methinks||

visual plinth
hushed sable
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oh wait I can do like an area tier list now

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I've found all the places

visual plinth
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i feel like im pretty close to that

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but probably missing 1 or 2

hushed sable
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I'll do an all bosses one once I've done those but I'm still missing a good chunk of those lmao

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there's so fucking many

heavy burrow
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i probably would like ||putrified ducks even less if it was as big as bilewater tbh||

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now that i think about it

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i cant think of another area i dislike tho

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my only other complaint is that ||i havent found a way to go through the underworks from left to right, there is just a big fuck ass wall in the middle of it with no indication on the map so i think can go through but then cant. it makes the elevator there basically useless||

hushed sable
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||the abyss is ass but it gets brownie points for the escape sequence||

novel canyon
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Why|| tf are so many areas hidden by small holes in the roof||

hushed sable
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relevant later

heavy burrow
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cause it’s hollow knight

hushed sable
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or not

heavy burrow
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hollow knight: silksong

ebon swallow
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Both bosses I struggled with will be made easier 😭 || splinter sister was easy, I only struggled due to the minions ||

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I didn’t know about || Garmond and zaza helping with Moorewing until way after the fight ended || so I hope I’m not locked out of potential future stuff

upper crest
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@heavy burrow @hushed sable

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||2 deaths carmelita||

heavy burrow
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||is that the ant||

hushed sable
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crazy

heavy burrow
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if it is then yea agreed

hushed sable
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||also I got the 3 hearts via an alternative method, I did not get the heart of the woods, I got a different secret heart that completed the mission instead||

heavy burrow
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my attempt count on ||the other hearts were pretty good but that one took more than 5 at least||

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||I got all 4 lol||

hushed sable
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which I did not know would happen until my objective updated lol

heavy burrow
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I was hoping I'd get something special

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but nah

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probably just a completion percentage

hushed sable
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||so I can still go back and fight the other boss on this file?||

heavy burrow
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probably

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||I got all 4 before using the hearts at the shamans tho||

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so idk if it'd be different

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i dont see why it would be tho

hushed sable
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I don't either

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hopefully should be fine

upper crest
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cause its not a secret ending right

hushed sable
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it's a secret achievement

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but past that no

upper crest
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do u get it when u obtain it?

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or when u beat the game

hushed sable
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obtain it

upper crest
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oh so i should have it

hushed sable
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yeah it's just for ||beating that specific boss||

upper crest
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thats it right

hushed sable
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yeah

upper crest
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but no alt ending with it u can just straight up skip one of ur objectives?

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thats kinda strange

hushed sable
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I mean it like makes sense

upper crest
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yea

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do u get locked out of the boss fight u skip?

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or can u do it still

hushed sable
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no idea

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I think you still can

upper crest
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i night just go do all of them b4 i continue main then

hushed sable
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I couldn't find it the first time lol

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but that's just me being lost

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||I did first try clover dancers which was cool||

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||Krust king I got on my 2nd attempt but I died to the 3 gauntlets beforehand more times than I'd like to admit||

upper crest
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||also for carmelita i basically skipped phase 2 by timing my first ever stagger with the flint dagger and then dps her from stagger to phase into phase 3||

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upper crest
hushed sable
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||carmelita I was testing out new crests so I died a shit ton and then eventually swapped back to reaper and got it in a few more tries lol||

upper crest
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yeah im sweating rn cause i wanna win our lil competition we have going on lmao

hushed sable
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I was very close to beating it with ||shaman|| but got lazy

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for 100%?

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OH

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the death count thing

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yeah fair I didn't do any of that so I was fine with throwing away attempts to test stuff out

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enjoying the fight type shit

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I am curious how many attempts final boss will take you tho cause I was sweating my ass off and it still probably took me close to 20 but I wasn't counting

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guesstimation

heavy burrow
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they're like "damn how'd you find that?"

upper crest
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i see

novel canyon
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i found a glitch

upper crest
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omg my friend got this bug too lmao

magic minnow
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bosses HATE this one simple trick

hushed sable
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Lol

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Perfect game

thin mango
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My favorite part about silksong is killing the same 2 enemies for thousands of rosaries just so I can buy a few things

hushed sable
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Aw yeah

civic gale
heavy burrow
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i never had to rosarie farm

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im not seeing what other people are seeing about the economy apparently

upper crest
novel canyon
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Easier to die in this game + not turning extra money into bands

fast burrow
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Major huge big skill issue

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It’s so easy to not lose your money

upper crest
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i have so much money i dont know what to do with it anymore

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i am basically at 100% tho

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so pretty sure my money is worthless

hushed sable
heavy burrow
upper crest
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@heavy burrow @hushed sable

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||3 death nyleth||

magic minnow
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did anyone else find the ||cogwork dancers|| to be really easy

thin mango
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Yeah

ebon swallow
civic gale
woeful narwhal
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I just rolled credits

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Fire game, I liked silksong so much more than I liked hollow knight

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||The Lace fight in the cradle is PEAK, I felt like I was fighting a player. I changed my setup to something really fast and it genuinely was like super smash bros melee, final destination, (almost) no items, fox only type shit||

upper crest
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like it actually made HK look like a crowdfunded incomplete project (which it was)

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not to say HK was bad it was also still amazing for what it was

heavy burrow
hushed sable
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bro's already running chinese this tryhard

heavy burrow
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stay mad

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it's free timesave for no cost (besides trying to figure out how to change it back when i inevitably have to)

upper crest
hushed sable
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clearly 100%

upper crest
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xd

hushed sable
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I'm still working on getting 100% and all achievements (that are possible this run)

upper crest
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does this games any% hit sub 1 hour?

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hks is low 30 mins

hushed sable
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if some big skips are found maybe

upper crest
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I am not looking forward to 100% steel soul

hushed sable
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idrc too much about like actually speedrunning it, I mostly just want achievements

upper crest
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hk was so easy cause i could farm godhome hitless on every boss

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this one i cant

heavy burrow
abstract cradle
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Only your manual save. The autosaves after ||the Cursed one|| are untouched.

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Speaking from experience: I didn’t ||have to dispell the curse twice|| and I was using an autosave to revert my progress a bit.

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If it’s what I think it is, ||you’ll find it very easily while doing a special Wish.||

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Otherwise have fun lmao

visual plinth
hushed sable
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a little but it's ok

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as long as they don't actually say what's in it I think it's chill

novel canyon
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Tbf ||it’s not like you are going to assume there ain’t an act 3, three acts is like the storytelling thing||

magic minnow
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the humble 5th act:

hushed sable
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real

visual plinth
hushed sable
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it's pretty crazy

heavy burrow
heavy burrow
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just tried it on a separate save, i see what you mean now

thin mango
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Only 4 more achievements now

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So glad I’m done with the hunters journal that was painful

upper crest
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can we do that other ending without losing our game

heavy burrow
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so you can still go back to your most up to date autosave

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say for example you beat the ||bell beast||, then played for like 5 more minutes and picked up a frayed rosarie or something

magic minnow
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do you guys know if anything needed for all achievements is permanently missable

heavy burrow
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then you went back to your autosave from after you beat moss mother

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your most up to date save, the one with the frayed rosarie, is gone

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but your autosave from after ||bell beast|| will be there

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so you only lost like 5 minutes

heavy burrow
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and you'll only lose progress up to your most recent autosave

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so I would recommend picking up a tool or something just to make the autosave up to date and then reverting the save after

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so that you basically just have an autosave that was right when you picked up the tool

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tl;dr I wouldn't worry about it too much

magic minnow
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I heard about that im talking about like tools and stuff

heavy burrow
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oh no i dont think so from that end

magic minnow
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cuz apparently theres some things that only spawn if you do them in earlier acts

heavy burrow
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im only at 90% so far so I wouldn't know yet

magic minnow
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need someone to make a save analyzer for skong like there is for hk

heavy burrow
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hk speedrunning discord is already working on a bunch of stuff i saw

civic gale
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do you think theyll nerf the difficulty

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since so many people are talking abt it

hushed sable
heavy burrow
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which is lame just my opinion CAUGHT

civic gale
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Not the bosses bro

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I was hoping they were just gonna nerf

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The non-bosses

heavy burrow
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again, I hope not

civic gale
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The 2 hit basic enemies and the 2 hit environments

heavy burrow
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they're nerfing one of the 2 hit environments in act 1 as well

civic gale
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Honestly I think that’s fair because there’s no point for it to do 2 damage

heavy burrow
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which ig is fair but I think having more 2 hit enemies and environments so that you actually have to respect them instead of just running through it without a care is a good thing

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and, tbh

magic minnow
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the prob is that they def designed the difficulty knowing people would play hk first except a lot of people who never played hk heard about silksong and just went straight for it

civic gale
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It’s a fucking environment

heavy burrow
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in the late game you can STILL just run through them anyways

heavy burrow
civic gale
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Ngl the platforming section in ||cogwork core|| pissed me off bc of the two hit environment

heavy burrow
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so many people are complaining about ||savage beastfly|| too and like, idk

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I just don't get it

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everyone's got their own experience

civic gale
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Ngl his ||refight|| was a bitch but the normal one was fine

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Just because of the ranged adds

heavy burrow
visual plinth
heavy burrow
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||the false feedback hurts||

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but typically that only happened when I was trying to ||pogo point blank, or on a gear the was moving towards me||

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so there was still counterplay

heavy burrow
heavy burrow
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very beautiful fight but also just freelo

visual plinth
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and i got ||there late||

civic gale
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Idk why everyone thought that the ||hunters march|| was the worst place ever I thought it was chill

heavy burrow
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||hunters march|| was cool!

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heavy burrow
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it was very clearly an area a step above the rest for sure

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but it was like, a neat challenge

visual plinth
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||the guy guarding entry from the zone made me wanna come back to it later so i came back to it like way later lol||

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made it freelo

heavy burrow
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definitely no ||bilewater||

civic gale
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Most bosses in this game have taken me like <= 5 attempts

heavy burrow
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ok OK OK

magic minnow
heavy burrow
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I will say 1 good thing about ||bilewater||

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||the vertical section is sick||

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||I love pogoing off the big guys to stack silk on them||

visual plinth
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that was pretty cool i agree

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||horizontal sections can eat my entire ass tho||

heavy burrow
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I personally thought the difficulty scaling was perfectly fine but ik not everyone had 80 hours in HK going into the game so it makes sense

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can't say I would feel the same if I hadn't played HK before

civic gale
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I can’t wait for 1 year later when we finally get the godhome dlc when every boss has been lobotomised

heavy burrow
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im claiming my 100% before the nerfs award

civic gale
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Sadge I’ve been too busy with cooleg

hushed sable
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I think nerfing act 1 is chill

visual plinth
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im gonna still claim it cos i dont know if anything im yet to do has been nerfed

hushed sable
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Just don’t touch past it

civic gale
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Imagine getting to the end of silksong godhome and the final boss is just the fkin hk anyradiance mod

hushed sable
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I also don’t see them doing any more nerfs at all

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Beyond these

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Very unlikely imo

civic gale
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I reckon that the speedrun achievement will gatekeep so many people out of platinum trophy
It was chill in hk because base hk is short af

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But 5 hours for skong might actually be kinda hard

visual plinth
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it doesnt seem too tight with some prep

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steel soul seems wayyy worse

upper crest
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the 5 hour thing isnt thatbad since it's only up to the normal ending

magic minnow
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5 hours also doesnt seem that bad cuz if u think about it theres not actually that much to win

fast burrow
visual plinth
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the record is already at like 1:1x or something right

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routes are being developed that u can just yoink

novel canyon
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BlueSR has a 1:like20orsmth posted

visual plinth
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he has 1:17:05 atm

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and its fwr

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it was pretty recent idk if theres been another pb

latent spear
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The ||breakable mask thing that gives you a free hit at 1 hp saved my ass on that fight||

hushed sable
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That tool is epic

hushed sable
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steel soul is the big kicker

thin mango
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As I’m replaying for the 100% in under 30 hours achievement

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I’m realizing I did a lot of difficult areas before I should of

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||like I got to deep docks from going through hunters march||

upper crest
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||i did the forebrothers right after clockwork dancers||

thin mango
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And I did the ||savage beast fly for the beast crest before entering greymoor||

upper crest
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do u have a good checklist of what counts as %

thin mango
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No

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I’m just going off of memory

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And looking at the interactive map here and there

upper crest
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I know you need a certain amount of memory lockets to gain a % but do they count as % themselves?

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i dont think so right

thin mango
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No

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I got 100% and I was still missing 2

visual plinth
thin mango
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Idk what one that would be

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I haven’t been marking anything as complete just looking and seeing what I don’t have

visual plinth
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i didnt use it, it was a friend i havent gotten 100% yet

hushed sable
abstract cradle
abstract cradle
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You should not be forced to grind for 100% but currently that’s your only option.

hushed sable
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late-game economy I agree with

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||groal|| runback is fine cause ||of the secret bench|| but it still blows lol

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that place is SUPPOSED to be evil though so I get it

heavy burrow
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||nerfing last judge or anything past that tho and id be disappointed||

heavy burrow
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||but you have to go through one to find the secret passage||

visual plinth
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||but it seemed like they wanted to make their own blighttown so i presume they want us to spit at them for that area||

fast burrow
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I got baited

heavy burrow
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you've got some balls using that charm lol

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tried it for like 10 minutes and realized I wasn't built like that

analog jackal
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idk what charm that is, is that why you took three damage?

fast burrow
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Idk I put it on for this fight cuz her attacks are super easy to dodge but if I fuck up I take 4 damage lmao

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XD!!

analog jackal
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fair enough

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she’s a fun fight

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also funny hollow knight thing, alpha is streaming the game rn and doesn’t know that there’s not a reward for beating grey prince zote multiple times

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i think he’s beat him like 4 times already

heavy burrow
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||I think this is a much better design thank the strength charm btw it feels like there's an actual downside||

hushed sable
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well strength charm was literally just a buff

heavy burrow
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well only in late game

hushed sable
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oh true

heavy burrow
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but like

hushed sable
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ig there isn't really an issue with tools also only being a buff

heavy burrow
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realistically

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if you have breakable strength + 1 nail upgrade you shouldnt ever die again

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until like idk, at least mid game

hushed sable
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it definitely made steel soul a lot easier

heavy burrow
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besides like idk, shaman stone

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which you also get early on

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hushed sable
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yeah silksong tools seem much more balanced than HK charms

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||except caltrops/tacks if you use those you're CRINGE and BAD!!!||

heavy burrow
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||tacks + poison||

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I was using them for a while until I found ||wanderer crest|| I can't lie

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even then tho they are only situationally useful cause ||what're they gonna do against a flying enemy||

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which I think is also pretty neat

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now

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||the flying mechanical bees + poison? bro||

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||letting the game play for you lmao||

hushed sable
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yeah true

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I used them a couple times but not too often

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never used ||poison|| tho

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anybody know if filetime goes up while you're paused

visual plinth
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apparently not

clever goblet
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||3 act structure is far from the only one||

novel canyon
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||yeah but its the most known||

clever goblet
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Depends on where you're at

woeful narwhal
clever goblet
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3 act is just kinda western centric

woeful narwhal
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I think the enemies are stronger for sure but you get more flexibility in this game to deal with them in different ways so i thought it kinda evens out

clever goblet
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Tbf I grew up with diablo 2 which just has 5 acts for no reason

clever goblet
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||hk facetanking bosses was just way more of an actual strat lol||

fast burrow
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I think it's bullshit that bosses and certain enemies do double damage go ahead and cancel me

clever goblet
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I dont

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It just means there is less room for error vs those

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Like they just do more hp damage

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You also heal more

fast burrow
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I also get why it's a thing, bind lets you heal 3 damage after a short delay

woeful narwhal
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and you can heal midair

fast burrow
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Better heal is compensation and the game is generally meant to be harder than hk

clever goblet
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I mean it's not cause of bind I think it's the other way around

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You heal more cause they deal more

fast burrow
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yes

woeful narwhal
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I was healing mid fight WAY more in silksong than hollow knight

fast burrow
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Idk, I'll fight whatever they throw my way but I won't sit here and pretend it's not a little frustrating

clever goblet
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I have had zero frustration so far lol

novel canyon
clever goblet
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Anyway uh I havent updated my progress here in a bit and I like having some overview of how far I've come so far lemme check my achievements

woeful narwhal
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I was livid fighting some of the stuff in silksong ngl but id be disappointed if i fought every boss calmly

clever goblet
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Gotta be near act 2 end lmao

fast burrow
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I think for me it's the enemies doing double damage that kind of frustrates me

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I'm tryna explore n shit and I get pelted so much

clever goblet
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Time to find mask shards

fast burrow
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True story

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I finally got my first upgrade

latent spear
clever goblet
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Where are ya at

novel canyon
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feels a lot more like a "souls game" than hollow knight

fast burrow
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IM STILL ON ACT 1, THIS GAME IS FUCKING HUGE

novel canyon
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in the way that the basic enemies murder you

clever goblet
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Act 1 mask is good pace

latent spear
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Especially if you do the jump dash thing where you jump, dash and hit the ground, jump again

clever goblet
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Ik people in act 2 who havent found 4 shards

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Lol

latent spear
fast burrow
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Apparently saban didn't find a needle upgrade the whole time??

fast burrow
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I'm really surprised at how that was possible

clever goblet
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I think getting all achievements should be a challenge not a given

novel canyon
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i only found it after ||clockwork dancers||

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didn't know ||bellhart had an up||

clever goblet
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As someone who has a lot of platinum/100% lists a lot of them are ass and just 'play the game' not actual achievements of any kind

latent spear
clever goblet
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Who doesnt

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Check

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Wdym check

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It's not even hidden 😭

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I'm out here hitting every single wall I see

latent spear
visual plinth
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I know multiple ppl that missed it

latent spear
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That sign looks foregroundy

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I missed it like 3 times

clever goblet
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What I always miss is hidden entrances in ceilings

fast burrow
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That's actually so surprising, ||checking the higher area of bellhart|| was like my first instinct

clever goblet
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I was like ||why these bugs going up what is there||

novel canyon
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i tried ||pogoing the bodies, got a bit sad i couldn't then thought I couldn't go up||

clever goblet
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Act 2 ||fuck bilewater||

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That's all

fast burrow
novel canyon
clever goblet
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Patchnotes

fast burrow
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Fire gas money

clever goblet
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Not even the worst

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Act 2 ||voltnest traps dealing 4???||

fast burrow
visual plinth
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the fact it did ||two one hits was so troll for deliveries||

clever goblet
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||moving the fleas to citadel skips it entirely||

fast burrow
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Oh wow

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Idk I been exploring as much as I can before doing the main objectives, not so much sidequests

clever goblet
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Ye

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Same

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I am currently refusing the main quest and going insane

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How is there

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More map

magic minnow
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I accidentally did a main area thinking it was a side area because I went into it from a very different direction

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happened twice now

heavy burrow
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||first time moorwing, first time sinner’s road + bilewater, and the high palace during my speedrun||

clever goblet
heavy burrow
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||did you have the secret bench?||

clever goblet
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||ye||

heavy burrow
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THANKFULLY I ||got the secret bench after my first attempt and beat it on try 3||

heavy burrow
clever goblet
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Also ||voltnest|| annoyed the shit outta me

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||you hit the lightning, 2, or 3 masks if the game feels like it and then it flings you into the side for a possible 4th||

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||it's like oh okay guess I reset||

upper crest
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or do u mean an upgrade past that one

fast burrow
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Idk let’s find out

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@cloud lichen Hi bb

clever goblet
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||gotta find the npc I guess||

magic minnow
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got my first not free needle upgrade today and it was incredible to kill early enemies in like 2 hits when I was backtracking for a quest

heavy burrow
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game gets easy late game imo

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i think in my steel run im going to prioritize ||getting as many toolkit upgrades asap||

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theyre so huge especially before you can actually access the nail upgrades

magic minnow
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im so mad they kept it as steel soul and didnt make it silk soul or smth btw

heavy burrow
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||they already used that for act 3||

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||the mission is literally called silk and soul||

magic minnow
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that wouldve been peak then

heavy burrow
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what about uranium soul

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||your health is constantly drained like in mount fay||

thin mango
heavy burrow
abstract cradle
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Got True Ending

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Well that explains the difficulty bump.

hushed sable
cloud lichen
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||high hall gauntlet to be exact||

thin mango
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I think I found an arena worse than the one in ||high hall||

abstract cradle
thin mango
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Yeah I know I just thought since I didn’t need to go there during act 2 I’d do it during act 3

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Worst mistake ever and I’ll make sure i avoid stuff like this happening for steel soul 100%

abstract cradle
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Yeah, the less time you need to stay in Act 3 the better I’d imagine.

cloud lichen
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i’m not at act 3 yet nor do i know the mechanics but everyone makes it sound like king von is running around

quasi salmon
civic gale
magic minnow
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Paper soul mod where it’s steel soul and one health

visual plinth
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hardcore hell rush soul

heavy burrow
ebon swallow
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Got so many assignments so I haven’t been able to play sadge

cloud lichen
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||i did the mist today and it was such an awful experience but also did mount fay and had a lot of fun||

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i also think i’ve somehow missed a big area since i’m still missing a stag station

visual plinth
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||mount fay is very fun||

ebon swallow
cloud lichen
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i think so

hushed sable
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I mean it’s really just a “you solve it or you don’t”

cloud lichen
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||unless there was more after the phantom||

upper crest
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||did u ever figure out u could play the needolin to have the flies guide u||

cloud lichen
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yeah i solved it pretty fast

upper crest
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oh

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what part didnt u like then

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just the area in general

cloud lichen
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i just don’t think it’s. a good puzzle and the enemies are annoying

upper crest
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i see

#

yeah the right side of the map is kinda like that in general

hushed sable
#

I think it’s very fitting

#

But can be a little annoying

cloud lichen
#

thematically it works just the gameplay wasn’t enjoyable for me

visual plinth
#

thought i was safe 😔

hushed sable
#

Lol

#

Rip

heavy nebula
#

Decent game

civic gale
#

Are all quests required for 100%

#

Because i cannot for the life of me find this stupid fucking ||pollip||

hushed sable
#

Percentages as far as I can tell:
57% - ||tools (1% per tool)||
6% - ||spells||
4% - ||nail upgrades||
5% - ||mask upgrades||
9% - ||spool upgrades||
7% - ||crests||
3% - ||silk hearts||
9% - ||movement/lore abilities||

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Probably a little incorrect about the last few but that’s like mostly it

#

So ||hidden bosses and quests that don’t give you one of the things on the list|| won’t add to completion

#

Most of them do though

abstract cradle
#

||Actually wait there’s only 7 abilities, no?||

hushed sable
#

||tool upgrades|| also do not add to completion ||once you have the basic version of a tool, finding an upgraded version of it won’t change the %||

heavy nebula
hushed sable
abstract cradle
#

Ok I think my remaining percentage is 12% ||Tools|| and 1% ||across nail, mask, and spool upgrades in addition to the last Silk Heart||. So that leaves 2% for the last category

abstract cradle
#

Mainly because ||it can be done twice||.

hushed sable
#

Yeah

abstract cradle
hushed sable
#

That’s one of your 2% for sure

abstract cradle
#

I presume ||it’s the only reward I have left to get from her.||

hushed sable
#

You need to find ||enough memory lockets (and possibly use them but idk)||

abstract cradle
#

Probably

hushed sable
#

Then ||go talk to her||

#

I think it’s 15 total

abstract cradle
#

||Think I’m 4 away from opening them all, I just haven’t used them because I feel sufficient with my Hunter, Witch, Shaman rotation.||

hushed sable
#

Based rotation

#

Try burning em and see if it works

abstract cradle
#

I’ll do so later.

hushed sable
#

If not then you just haven’t found enough yet

abstract cradle
#

Not able to try right now.

hushed sable
#

Fair

latent spear
thin mango
#

3 achievements left

hushed sable
#

Dayum what

#

Quick wit it

abstract cradle
abstract cradle
thin mango
#

No

abstract cradle
#

They do?

thin mango
#

Yeah

#

Idk why he listed 57% for all tools because the skills are also in that

abstract cradle
thin mango
#

There’s only 51 tools

#

And the other 6 are silk skills

woeful narwhal
#

I be wandering

thin mango
#

I just redid it for the achievement

thin mango
heavy burrow
thin mango
#

|| 51 tools and 6 silk skills||

heavy burrow
#

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

#

i didnt realize that number included those

hushed sable
#

makes sense

#

I knew some of my percentages would be wonky but I didn't realize those counted as part of the 57

thin mango
#

||still a little confused why drifters/faydown cloak aren’t in there, but Tbf there’s a lot in this game that you just don’t need or don’t count towards 100%||

upper crest
#

pretty sure this was pulled from game files

#

||can u get 100% without going into act 3?||

#

||oh u cant cause u need the flower||

hushed sable
ebon swallow
#

Ok that final boss fight was fun

#

It was somehow like 5x easier than the || 2nd lace fight|| icant

#

Did in under 10 attempts

thin mango
upper crest
#

u might be counting an extra nail

#

if u put 4

#

the free one might not count as a %

#

i also got 101 though

#

cause i put 4 for nail

thin mango
#

||I’m also not seeing why evolving the crest would count as a % if every other upgrade to something doesn’t count||

hushed sable
hushed sable
#

oh wait

#

I'm troll

upper crest
#

💀

thin mango
#

I did that boss first try but the one you were thinking about yeah absolutely

hushed sable
#

I got that one in 2 lol

#

but yeah I agree ||lace 2|| is much harder than ||silk mommy||

thin mango
#

It was kinda disappointing because ||lace 2|| kicked my ass for a good bit

#

Then the next fight was a walk in the park

upper crest
#

i died 2 times total on those 2 fights

hushed sable
#

I didn't mind it cause it was still fun even if it was easy

upper crest
#

and both were on the former boss

thin mango
#

Still agree fun fight even if it was easy

upper crest
#

||and then i died 18 times to lost lace somehow||

hushed sable
#

||lost lace is mean||

upper crest
#

that boss fight is just

#

tilted me

#

cause i thought it was terribly made

hushed sable
#

I think it's awesome but it's pretty rough

upper crest
#

I think like story wise n stuff its cool

hushed sable
#

can be hard to see sometimes

upper crest
#

but the actual fight is lame as hell

#

artificial difficulty all over the place + visual clarity is very low

thin mango
#

It’s personally my favorite boss it’s a good challenge and gets easier when you know how to play it

hushed sable
#

idk what about the difficulty is very artificial

upper crest
#

||black abilities on a black stage with a black boss model||

hushed sable
#

that part is a little annoying lol

#

I agree with you there

thin mango
#

Could be worse

hushed sable
#

most of the time I could see what was happening tho

thin mango
#

||the actual lighting is not bad unlike some areas that make it hard to see||

hushed sable
#

true

#

||fucking ducts||

upper crest
thin mango
hushed sable
#

I definitely prefer ||lace 2|| but I think ||lost lace|| is still pretty good

#

was thinking about making a boss tierlist youtube vid

#

thoughts?

thin mango
#

Would be fire

hushed sable
#

right off the bat

#

||Fourth Chorus|| F tier

upper crest
#

havent updated it after beating the others but this was what it looked like up to that point

hushed sable
upper crest
#

yeah unfortunately i think thats the only S tier boss in the game

#

but it was a very good one

hushed sable
#

there's a couple S tier for me I think

#

depends on how generous I am

upper crest
#

||tormented trobbio had the set up to be S tier and then they basically did nothing different with him from his first fight||

#

very underwhelming

hushed sable
#

I enjoyed it cause I liked the first one

#

oh I forgot there's still 1 boss I haven't done

upper crest
#

oh

#

which one

hushed sable
#

since it wasn't required for 100% and I haven't gotten hunter's journal yet

#

||the lifeblood alchemist||

upper crest
#

ah

#

its not really a boss

hushed sable
#

yeah didn't seem like it

upper crest
#

he was uh....

#

yea

#

you'll see

#

i guess

hushed sable
#

I saw my friend fight it lol

upper crest
#

oh

#

lmao yea

#

bro kinda just stands there

thin mango
#

Here’s my tier list of bosses

cloud lichen
#

am i the only one that really hated

#

||trobbio||

hushed sable
thin mango
#

I fought it again today and it wasn’t that fun

hushed sable
upper crest
cloud lichen
#

i swear he had one attack that could actually hit you and he just spammed that shit

#

the tornado spin move

hushed sable
#

that move kinda pissed me off but other than that he was chill

upper crest
#

the parry spell is good vs that move

cloud lichen
#

i literally wouldn’t get hit by anything else i just got tilted by it

#

they should add move stale

thin mango
cloud lichen
#

i got parry yesterday unfortunately

hushed sable
#

||I liked the nail art attack||

thin mango
#

I liked it the first time but just replaying it made me change my mind

upper crest
#

I dont like the fights where they force u to be afk

#

that fight forced u afk waiting on like 2 moves to fight back on

hushed sable
#

I think it's fine sometimes

#

like Grimm does it well in hollow knight

upper crest
#

u can get in on like every move of his

#

even his balloon

cloud lichen
#

the grimm “cutscene” attack was very interactive at least

hushed sable
#

well sure but you can also get in on like

#

most moves in Silksong bosses

cloud lichen
#

learning nkg was still my favourite time in the series

upper crest
#

which makes hitting them literally impossible unless u throw something at them

cloud lichen
#

oh yeah

#

||the phantom, i think that’s the boss after the miss||

#

has infinite i frames

hushed sable
#

catch them with ||harpoon||

cloud lichen
#

for no reason

upper crest
#

frustrating as hell

hushed sable
#

ngl idr ||phantom|| fight very well

#

I enjoyed it when I played it

thin mango
#

I honestly think it’s a bit easy

cloud lichen
#

i mean more when she does like the desolate dive attack she just has a bunch of i frames

upper crest
#

i liked that fight yea

cloud lichen
#

she is NOT the hollow knight

#

i found all the actual character bug fights quite easy

#

idk what to call them

hushed sable
#

Silksong confirmed not hard

#

bipeds

cloud lichen
#

i don’t think the bosses are the hard part of silksong in fairness

upper crest
#

honestly

#

||if u use injector multibinder the game is lowkey pretty easy||

cloud lichen
#

except early game they were weirdly tuned but i think they’re getting nerfs

upper crest
#

sister splinter and moorwing werent even that tough 😭

hushed sable
#

I definitely struggled more with enemy guantlets than I did with bosses though

cloud lichen
#

for sure

thin mango
hushed sable
#

some of those gauntlets were fucked

cloud lichen
#

high halls gauntlet with no nail upgrades was miserable

upper crest
#

||the khann 3 arena gauntlet was fucked up||

#

even tho i only died 2 times i could see how that one would take people a while

hushed sable
#

top 3 tilt moments for me were
||coral tower||
||bilehaven/bilewater runback||
||beastfly 2 lmao||

upper crest
#

fufa

#

||did u know there was a close bench xD||

hushed sable
#

huh

#

I did but it still pissed me off

#

didn't know till the 2nd runback tho

upper crest
#

I dont think anyone I know actually found it

#

and i first tried him

#

so i didnt need it

hushed sable
#

I think some tools definitely turn Silksong into baby mode

#

like silksong no tools is fairly hard

upper crest
#

||I think cogfly + poison charm is gross||

hushed sable
#

yeah

#

i WILL be running that on steel soul

thin mango
hushed sable
#

the forum was definitely up there for me

cloud lichen
#

i don’t be using tools really

upper crest
hushed sable
#

I didn't use any tools at all on ||lost lace|| cause I was out of shard lmao

upper crest
#

thing

hushed sable
#

yeah fr

#

fractured mask is SO clutch

#

and you get it early

thin mango
cloud lichen
#

||like i run the bug honey thing and sometimes remember to use it, and my charms are literally just compass, the bell heal, and the rosary magnet lol||

upper crest
#

the yellow ones are so useless

#

outside of the barb wire one

hushed sable
#

yeah except like heavy belt

upper crest
#

and heavy belt

#

and maybe the sprint one

thin mango
#

Magnetite dice my beloved

upper crest
#

xD

hushed sable
#

that's blue ain't it

thin mango
#

Nope it’s a yellow

hushed sable
#

what

#

no way

upper crest
#

has anyone found a use for the needolin charm at all

#

or does it literally not have a use

hushed sable
#

||you can needolin to stun enemies||

upper crest
#

wtf

hushed sable
#

I don't think it's very good

#

but it is a thing

upper crest
#

and thats specifically because of that charm

#

or does it do that regardless

hushed sable
#

does it regardless, tool makes it better iirc

upper crest
#

i see

#

i was sitting here thinking the whole game thinking it was gonna be an easter egg or secret

hushed sable
thin mango
#

I feel like it could be a sleeper pick and have some solid uses

#

But I’ll never know because I just run past whatever it is and face tank damage 🔥

hushed sable
#

wait a minute

#

I just found out ||there's a steel soul exclusive tool||

#

||"Increases the quantity of crafted tools and is a yellow"||

thin mango
#

Is it related to the coin purse tool?

hushed sable
#

that sounds really good

hushed sable
upper crest
#

||theres a bit of steel soul exclusive things||

hushed sable
#

yeah ik about the hidden boss as well

upper crest
#

which is cool

hushed sable
#

looks really boring to fight but it makes sense as to why lol

#

||I don't think they'd throw a hard boss at you in steel soul only||

upper crest
#

||steel assassin sharpe||

#

run ender 💀

#

not sure he even exists

#

but if he does it would be there

hushed sable
#

he doesn't currently that's for sure

#

or if he does literally NOBODY has found him lmao

#

I'm assuming he'll be DLC

upper crest
#

it would be cool if he was like a steel soul mode gulag boss

#

like where if u die u have 1 chance to continue ur file and u have to beat him to come back to life

hushed sable
#

would be wild

#

man it's kinda crazy how ||bilewater|| of all places has one of the best themes in the whole game

upper crest
#

It's crazy how a place that ugly is one of the biggest on the map

heavy burrow
#

literal first try

#

||I'd put it under 4th chorus|| that's for sure

#

you know what @hushed sable I WANT you to get the ping for this

upper crest
#

i put it high cause its cool

hushed sable
#

I put it high cause it looks racist and I think that's funny

heavy burrow
#

||im sad i beat first sinner so quickly i forgot they existed||

#

but that one was a good one in retrospect

#

anyways where can I find this tier list maker

#

okay genuine question unrelated

#

||ive been seeing so many people complain about the difficulty of savage beastfly, am I insane or was that one not bad at all?||

hushed sable
#

I got bodied by it but I was also kind of trolling

heavy burrow
#

||I went to hunter march early and did it early and it didnt take me that long, and the far fields one wasn't that bad either. like as good of boss fights obvious, but just very forgettable fights for me||

#

||I can kinda understand the far fields one at least cause of the lava||

hushed sable
#

yeah the normal one was fine

heavy burrow
#

maybe I just got lucky

#

I can't remember if I used ||the magma bell for it||

upper crest
heavy burrow
#

actually i dont think i did

#

i didnt get that one for a while

upper crest
#

but i died a shit ton on that one

hushed sable
#

I think I was at 13 deaths on it lmao

heavy burrow
#

im just the goat at fighting mid enemies

hushed sable
#

it was like my 3rd highest death count on any boss

heavy burrow
#

i dont think it's in my top 5

#

but i didnt keep track of any I just know ||moorwing|| felt longer than all the others

hushed sable
#

I got that one in like

#

2-3

#

didn't give me much trouble but I did find him quite late

heavy burrow
#

yea I was trolling on that one

#

now that Ive started speedrunning i do him first try

#

just about learning the pattern

#

ig you could say that about them all lmao

hushed sable
#

REAL question tho is what are y'alls favorite OSTs

heavy burrow
#

it's funny you ask that I was about to start going through the whole catalogue and adding it to my playlist

#

probably tomorrow

upper crest
#

probably act 2 citadel

heavy burrow
#

||widow fight|| was a banger

#

especially phase 2

upper crest
#

i will say just at first glance the music in this game isnt as iconic as hollow knights but it might have to age some more

heavy burrow
#

OH ||the abyss lava sequence too||

heavy burrow
upper crest
#

i stay watching wirtual vidoes

#

ill hear it soon enough

#

he always has HK music in like every video lmao

heavy burrow
#

give it 6 months and a few of those songs will be everywhere

hushed sable
#

after going through and skimming the OST mine are definitely ||Lace, Widow, Sister Splinter, Bilewater, Trobbio, Cut Through (Groal), and Karmelita||

#

there really are a lot of bangers

#

I wasn't paying too much attention to it while playing but after going back it's like

#

damn this shit good

heavy burrow
#

dude for ||such an annoying area bilewater|| had a banger that kade it tolerable

hushed sable
#

fr

heavy burrow
#

its like

#

unexpected

hushed sable
#

I think my favorite is definitely ||Sister Splinter|| though

#

that theme is fucking tough

#

wish it wasn't so short

heavy burrow
#

they knew they needed e mellow relaxing song to cool you off

hushed sable
#

Sister Splinter - Hollow Knight Silksong Menu Login Screen OST Official Soundtrack Chapter Song Lyric Video Hollow Knight Silksong Trailer Music Hollow Knight Silksong DLC OST Hollow Knight Silksong OST Silksong Soundtrack Silksong DLC all endings Hollow Knight Silksong all soundtracks Hollow Knight Silksong DLC Hollow Knight Silksong PC Modded ...

▶ Play video
ebon swallow
hushed sable
#

like dude

heavy burrow
hushed sable
#

yeah there's a lot that I like

#

but this one is totally up my alley

ebon swallow
#

There’s a lot of good ones

#

Idk what the one is called for when || you free bell heart ||

#

Or unless it’s just the same || as bell heart and I’m misremembering ||

hushed sable
# ebon swallow Or unless it’s just the same || as bell heart and I’m misremembering ||

Bellhart - Hollow Knight Silksong Menu Login Screen OST Official Soundtrack Chapter Song Lyric Video Hollow Knight Silksong Trailer Music Hollow Knight Silksong DLC OST Hollow Knight Silksong OST Silksong Soundtrack Silksong DLC all endings Hollow Knight Silksong all soundtracks Hollow Knight Silksong DLC Hollow Knight Silksong PC Modded Hollow ...

▶ Play video
abstract cradle
#

Now at 85% and a good 4.3k Rosaries off buying everything.

hushed sable
#

nice

#

well not nice money wise lol

abstract cradle
#

Have one area I still need to find but honestly I’d rather just grind it out now.

#

Hunter’s Memento is going to be awful to grind as is.

hushed sable
#

||I don't even think that area adds to your completion at all ngl||

#

if it's where I think it is

abstract cradle
#

I’ve heard it starts with a ||V. Verdania I think it might’ve been called?||

hushed sable
abstract cradle
hushed sable
#

maybe a bit longer actually but still

#

it's the fastest I could find, especially in act 3

abstract cradle
#

Honestly I’m probably going to just get a guide soon; I’m only missing 2 Mask Shards and 1 Spool Fragment aside from shops and those are not going to be fun to hunt for in a map this big.

hushed sable
#

yeah that's what I did at the point you're at

#

not really worth blind searching

#

imo

abstract cradle
#

Hmm.

#

Also ||I think this game has managed to jumpscare me 5 times lmao.||

ebon swallow
#

That’s in regular too

#

Bad news for me

#

I’m pretty sure most of what’s left for me to do right now involves exploring || Bilewater || (other than quests)

#

I’m also missing so many || keys ||. There are like 5 || different locks ||

abstract cradle
# upper crest

I’m just going to number this so that I can parse this properly.

57% - ||Tools and Silk Spells||
9% - ||Spool Upgrades||
6% - ||Crests||
5% - ||Mask Upgrades||
4% (each) - ||Nail Upgrades||, ||Toolkit upgrades||, ||Pouch upgrades||
3% - ||Silk Hearts||
1% (each) - ||Needolin||, ||Dash||, ||Wall Jump||, ||Harpoon||, ||Faydown Cloak||, ||Charge Slash||, ||Sylphsong||, ||Everbloom||

thin mango
#

Honestly not to bad for not knowing the run well and dying constantly

#

Now it’s just steel soul achievements left

ebon swallow
#

I have 53%

#

Which is both less and more than I would’ve thought

#

Though 29% is left to || tools || alone

abstract cradle
#

Does anyone have a hint on where I can find ||Verdania||? Last area I haven’t run into. Currently checking ||Sinner’s Road and Bilewater|| for potential ins; I have ||freed the Green Beetle||.

novel canyon
#

LATE GAME SPOILERS:
||lost lace is kinda crazy, wowzers||

abstract cradle
abstract cradle
#

Well I searched up how to get to ||Verdania||.

||God doing Lost Verdania first and seeing the contrast with Verdania was creepy as fuck.||

hushed sable
#

yeah it's a neat place

quasi salmon
#

speaking of that,|| I did Verdania as my first one of the hearts and you can do the mainline wish with it, so now I have the hunter heart in my home keepsakes instead of the conjoined one lmao||

hushed sable
quasi salmon
hushed sable
#

big

novel canyon
#

Also how bad is ||beat game while cursed|| achievement It seems really annoying

abstract cradle
abstract cradle
#

Easier than ||Karmelita|| tbh.

novel canyon
#

I only ever used hunter through the whole game lol, so the slight different moves throws me off

abstract cradle
#

Whelp

#

I played around with most of them

#

All bar ||Architect|| I think ||as I just don’t use Tools||.

novel canyon
#

Tbf I did ||cure it|| so imma have to start a new profile either way for it

quasi salmon
#

as long as you get ||the bud in act 2|| it should be pretty doable

#

bc I got it ||early in act 3|| so that was not happening LMAO

novel canyon
#

Idea: get speed completion speed runner, steal completion and ||beat game while cursed|| in the same run 😃 😃 😃

quasi salmon
abstract cradle
#

It seems really generous so eh.

novel canyon
abstract cradle
#

I’m at 91% atm and I’m only 8-9 hours over the threshold.

magic minnow
#

I mean genuinely speaking its prob easiest to go for steel completion and speed completion on the same file

#

less time in steel soul means less chances to die right

visual plinth
#

got true ending today Burgy

novel canyon
abstract cradle
magic minnow
novel canyon
#

Tru, I just want to see when something be inevitably does it in like 4h

abstract cradle
#

4h sounds like an unrestricted time honestly.

novel canyon
#

Then ||Harold quest|| to end it off

abstract cradle
#

You need to grind quite a bit for 100% here.

#

I ended up 2.8k Rosaries short myself.

abstract cradle
magic minnow
#

just realized with all the other shit I have to do this weekend ill have to push off skong again :(

novel canyon
#

Yeah but ther is already like 150+ rosaries per minute farms

novel canyon
#

An All achievements run

abstract cradle
#

But who knows since no one’s even put out a TE speedrun yet.

#

||Probably because of all the Wish shenanigans with getting Silk and Soul to trigger.||

novel canyon
#

The more I play the more I realize I need a lore guy

#

I need someone to make a history of pharloom documentary

quasi salmon
#

mossbag o7

magic minnow
#

capitalism

abstract cradle
#

Not the word I would use.

#

||Like you litterally can’t even explore the place in full as far as I could tell; it’s that screwed up by Abyss shenanigans.||

hushed sable
heavy burrow
#

i love watching dsp play games

hushed sable
#

guys this hunters journal is a pain in the ass

ebon swallow
#

There’s at least 1 enemy that I’m saving for later, bc I really can’t be bothered to deal with the || beetle thing || in || memorium ||

heavy burrow
#

chat should i finish my 90% save or should i just get 100% when I do the steel soul one

#

feels kinda pointless if ima do that one anyways, unless im trying to do it to make sure i know where everything is

magic minnow
#

I mean nothing to lose by getting the last 10%

heavy burrow
#

time

#

it's not as fun exploring when there's no risk anymore yknow

#

already pretty much decked out on that save

visual plinth
#

when did u have risk in ur casual playthrough

heavy burrow
#

when I could die

warped hemlock
#

I see too much hollow knight content when I haven’t played a single hour lmao

heavy burrow
#

game is big, doing well

#

nothing major is spoiled from that post at least

civic gale
#

i wonder if hk:ss will have as insane as a modding scene as hk

#

hk had an entire fuckin fan made dlc as a mod

hushed sable
#

Maybe eventually

warped hemlock
#

Sheesh

#

I might join the hype out of curiosity but I want to first like. Use the next week to do what I can for a game jam before I start training for new full time job

#

The art looks neat and cute :3

hushed sable
#

Sometimes not always cute lol

#

Poggers game tho

heavy burrow
#

there's a reason the song is... silk?

#

idk

hushed sable
#

True

#

There’s a reason the song is silk

heavy burrow
#

i mean it's not wrong

#

when you think about it

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those who know

hushed sable
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Yeah

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Silking up my song rn

heavy burrow
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pics or it didn't happen

heavy burrow
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that is

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not the link i wanted

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there we go

hushed sable
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and regens faster

heavy burrow
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yea i saw the comment

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which is sick

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too bad there isnt ||like a path of pain type area it would be useful in||

hushed sable
thin mango
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This is on steel soul btw

hushed sable
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lol

civic gale
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is there no visual indicator of ss

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like in hk

heavy burrow
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am I insane ||or did cogs use to do 2 damage||

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did the patch already come out

heavy burrow
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stand your ground

quasi salmon
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||cogs do 1 dmg now||

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peak

heavy burrow
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fair enough shrug

quasi salmon
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that was my only big complaint abt the game so I‘m glad it got changed

analog jackal
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||cog dancers?||

hushed sable
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it doesn't say anything about them in the patch notes

heavy burrow
hushed sable
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I see

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ig they did change it

heavy burrow
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we mean like ||the environmental cog damage||

analog jackal
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ahhhhh

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that’s an awesome change

hushed sable
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well I just got the Hunter's Memento so I'll be doing new file stuff soon

analog jackal
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especially considering i’m in that area rn

hushed sable
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so obnoxious

heavy burrow
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that i’ll probably do on my 90% save

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unless i get my steel soul save to 100% first

heavy burrow
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im only at ||the cloak|| rn for steel

magic minnow
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I mean ur probably closer to it on ur 90 save

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Like significantly

thin mango
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Besides I just want to get the achievement done so I can take a break from silksong for a bit

abstract cradle
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It’s just significantly more annoying.

heavy burrow
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do em all at the same time

hushed sable
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I’m gonna attempt both my steel soul % runs at the same time but ||act 3 requires you to beat the game anyways so I’m guaranteed to not get both achievements at the same time lol||

novel canyon
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ight, good game