Celeste

[normal kraken]

CROSSOVER COLLAB TODAAAAAY

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-spinning-on-stick-monkey-spinning-monkey-monkey-happy-monkey-yeah-gif-18238557527769491992

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-monkey-dancing-monkey-vibing-monkey-jumping-monkey-vibe-check-gif-27025323

[ivory finch]

My PC is dead I just wanna play it 😔

[late marsh]

it's out :D

[gleaming leaf]

HUH

[stoic sparrow]

what is this infinite dash tas

[random moth]

no its a real rta run

new strat where you build 8000000 speed and then go straight from power source to the golden end room

i believe the tas is like sub 2 or very close to it

[late marsh]

yeah like 1m35s now

[sleek edge]

cant wait to play omori underwater highway

[sleek edge]

damn they got yume nikki in here

[sleek edge]

help

[elder plank]

yall can have this clip ig

7th recon entry

[normal kraken]

||https://medal.tv/games/celeste/clips/lENKBvomiyHLh3u2R?invite=cr-MSxpcXIsMzI1NTgyMjE1&v=4||

[wheat yoke]

100% pb by almost 7 minutes

[late marsh]

woah

[normal kraken]

that’s pretty good

[wheat yoke]

ty!

[sleek edge]

torture

4 hours on this map because of the 4th berry 💔💔💔

[dusk moon]

TRUUUUUE

[normal kraken]

wow this is very hard

[dusk moon]

1a dashless speedrun for the funny

[dusk moon]

ok so a few months ago when I did kts, I skipped a room cuz the start of it just didnt make sense to me and didnt work but i just went back to it and have now beaten the entirety of kts :3

[sleek edge]

2 hours in and im still stuck on room 3 trying to figure out how to time the jump input for the last jelly

[sleek edge]

ok i got it i just needed to jump later

[halcyon galleon]

kebin

[sleek edge]

lets fucking go

[dusk moon]

One thing that ruined me in kts were all the gultras, I kept releasing down so I would only hold right and I was always short

[sleek edge]

the thing that killed me the most was figuring out when to do the jump

was doing it too early so me grabbing the jelly ate the input

[ivory finch]

first gm map?

🔥 ggs

[normal kraken]

lets gooooo

this map is SO fun

[sleek edge]

yep lol

[sleek edge]

tragic

got it anyways that was my last death

[wheat yoke]

nice

that

is p difficult

[sleek edge]

mostly just kept choking on easy parts lol

[wheat yoke]

oh i understand

my second farthest attempt got to flag 1 and i died in a really unfortunate way

i had the clip at some point but i lost it

how good did u get at the seeing is believing section?

[sleek edge]

got the inputs down after dying there like 10 times lol

[wheat yoke]

heh

one of the best parts of doing golden is just like, clearing it without reading

feels very cool

[sleek edge]

True...

[wheat yoke]

what're u doing next?

[sleek edge]

probably 7a

or 3a

[wheat yoke]

ooh

wait which goldens do you have in vanilla?

like list all of em

pretty please

[sleek edge]

1a, 1a winged, 2a, 4a, 5a
1b, 2b, 4b
all c sides

[wheat yoke]

pretty awesome

[sleek edge]

ye

[wheat yoke]

192 berry file then?

sorry for "drilling" you so much just curious abt progress and stuff

i like seeing it, gjgj and gl with ur next ones

you can totally do 3a

[sleek edge]

yep

[wheat yoke]

impressive time!

[sleek edge]

yea i just need to practice the second half then im all good

[wheat yoke]

incredibly fair

[dusk moon]

5b is like gambling

either you fluke the shit out of it, either you get stuck for hours

3a and 7a destroyed me tho

6b was somehow fun to me...

[sleek edge]

7a Sucks !!!

this was the farthest ive gotten

[dusk moon]

Oh I got lucky, I never died to 2000m and 2500m

or maybe once to 2000m actually

[normal kraken]

why are you doing the demo strat??? that is not more consistent lmao

[sleek edge]

to make myself feel more nervous

https://tenor.com/view/steam-happy-steamhappy-goodnight-steamhappy-goodnight-steam-gif-5933095636549574153

[sleek edge]

2 death run lol....

[wheat yoke]

holy

[late marsh]

skipping celestial resort is so based

[elder plank]

lock inj

[sleek edge]

💔

updashed too early

[gloomy iron]

this is so sad i almost first tried 6a golden

died in the first room of last checkpoint

[elder plank]

gg!

[sleek edge]

definitely not a good idea to start playing a red gm map

[late marsh]

woah that looks so cool tho

[sleek edge]

✅ ✅ ✅

[random moth]

I LOVE SPLASH!!!!!!!

[gloomy iron]

just hit a 3:43 bubsdropless 5b

[ivory finch]

new pb by like 10 minutes :3

[sleek edge]

the 2nd room 💔💔💔

[warm agate]

im trying a first speerun rn
my only prior experience is my regular account

[warm agate]

aaaaaaaaaaaaa chapter 3 my behated

[gloomy iron]

many such cases

[ivory finch]

i too struggled with ch3 on my first run 😭

died on final like 30 times

[gloomy iron]

ch3 is still one of my worst feeling chapters

gotta relearn the better demo strat so its not just a 2f tap

nevermind apparently i can hit a sub 5:30

[dusk moon]

2v1 bingo win

Sholutouts to 1AD during this run, new pb

30 deaths

[warm agate]

why does ch5 take so longgggggg lmao

[gloomy iron]

just run 5b it's faster

[warm agate]

whats the 6b dash order?

i forgor

wait ignore me im dumb

i accidentally found the c heart room because i thought it was intended

actually
ima restart becasue 3a took me 20 mins

[dusk moon]

oh and im a gm player with abt a 54 min any% pb and they're both advanced players with a bit over an hour any% pb-ish

[gloomy iron]

lost pb to a random ass 40 death summit

was on 38 pace

[gloomy iron]

we'd probably have a pretty close bingo race, i'm not far off your level

[warm agate]

yippppppppeeeeeeeeeeeeee

630 deaths

[normal kraken]

that's pretty good

[sleek edge]

exactly 40 mins lol

[sleek edge]

skate

[warm agate]

what would you guys say is a good time for a first serious attempt at an any% run?

[unborn stratus]

whatever you think is a good time, tbh it really depends how much practice you do beforehand, and also how much prior experience in the game

[warm agate]

ok maybe better question would be whats a good time to aim for

[unborn stratus]

again it's kinda hard to say but I feel like sub hour is a decent goal to go for if you learn the route and practice some of the harder sections a little bit

my first run was like 1:30 cause I didn't know the route and got giga lost in ch5

[warm agate]

dude i swear i get into ch3 and then i just spontaneously get brainworms

[elder plank]

if you've done 201 goldens I'd say sub hour is a good starting goal

and you can maybe work your way down to sub 50 by including just a few of the big skips

past that you really gotta lock in and practice

[dusk moon]

sub hour is doable with a mid run that just tries to go sorta fast with 100-200 deaths

just gotta know the route

[normal kraken]

officially? a good time is considered to be sub hour

[gloomy iron]

a lot of the ones i see are an hour to 1:20

for first attempt

good one is probably mid 50s

[dusk moon]

FUCK

[gloomy iron]

rip

close though

[warm agate]

I’ve done
176

Well wait no 177

But I have yet to do most goldens

[gloomy iron]

i could never not throw chapter 7

[wheat yoke]

love to see the any%-ing

[dusk moon]

whats the setup for the demo in 3a again?

[gloomy iron]

there's a few, the one i use is grab from the bottom and then 2f tap up

doesnt really matter how long the tap is though as long as youre 3 pixels off the ground

[dusk moon]

and then demo at max height climb jump right?

[gloomy iron]

yup

gotta tap left a little bit during the jump too or you'll hit the other side and die

i think one pixel is enough

[dusk moon]

so grab wall, tap until 3 pixel up and demo

[gloomy iron]

yup

[warm agate]

Ok
I’ve kept resetting
Which is exactly not the point of speedrunning a first run
I’m too neonwhite pilled for this I keep going for perfection

[sleek edge]

run it like a heaven rush

no need to be perfect just consistent

[dusk moon]

cleaner

very next run (just a few hours later)

clean badeline fight kinda clutched tf out of this run cuz i had some EXTREMELY slow deaths in 3 and 5 (notably final in both and 2 deaths to demo room without entering the other room to reset spawn)

[ivory finch]

@lilac ledge ty for reminding me that this exists this was so fun

[lilac ledge]

thanks for showing me this thread exists

[gloomy iron]

could be a run 5b angle tbh

you're at about the pb i was when i started it

[dusk moon]

pretty sure i can run cassette in abt 2 mins so my 5b needs to be like 5 minutes for it to be worth no?

oh act no, i can run it in like 1:30

so then i need sub 6 5b

[gloomy iron]

sub 6 5b isnt bad though

i dont do much more then clean movement and i have a 3:43

[dusk moon]

wtf

bubsdrop?

[gloomy iron]

with bubsdrop thats a sub 3:30

and the trick isnt that bad it's just 2 buffers

[dusk moon]

im assuming you need the 1 button strat where you do the corner kick dash up to skip the keys?

[lilac ledge]

that makes me remember the "new" strat too

[gloomy iron]

yeah but thats also easier then it looks

[dusk moon]

i feel like i have the deathless skill to go sub 40...

[gloomy iron]

its a pretty lenient cornerkick and you have like 5 frames to dash after it or something

[dusk moon]

i alr do the 3a and 4a corner kick, my problem is the dash after thats just onconsistent for me on 5b

[lilac ledge]

you do have 2 jump buttons right

[gloomy iron]

i do it with one

[dusk moon]

i do 2

flipside cliffside moment

[lilac ledge]

corner kicks are so much easier with 2 jump buttons

[dusk moon]

[gloomy iron]

yeah

[lilac ledge]

truee

i spent so long on that berry

[gloomy iron]

it helps with chapter 2 as well

[dusk moon]

coffee jump is so easy with 2 jump

[lilac ledge]

dream double jump

[gloomy iron]

what strats do you use for chapter 3 btw?

[lilac ledge]

i should play celeste again

[dusk moon]

basically nothing lmao

[lilac ledge]

i just left this map unfinished

[dusk moon]

i just try to go fast and do whats consistent

[gloomy iron]

you do brown green pink for the order, right?

[dusk moon]

fw E?

[lilac ledge]

motu

[dusk moon]

oh truuuuuue

[lilac ledge]

early motu has such cool gameplay ngl

but like why is the last checkpoint such a difficulty spike

[dusk moon]

ik thats the optimal order but i run towels before books

[lilac ledge]

well the last 2

[dusk moon]

more consistent for me

[lilac ledge]

oh yeah this is very related to this server

[gloomy iron]

i feel like you're losing a minute on huge mess then

[dusk moon]

tho i wanna optimize my cycles cuz im still slow af

my 3a needs some work i think

and pivoting to 5b

[lilac ledge]

what keybinds do you use

[dusk moon]

this ones red gm no?

[lilac ledge]

i'm not sure i kinda stopped there

[gloomy iron]

3a definitely yeah

[lilac ledge]

the cards felt awkward to use

[gloomy iron]

my pb saves 3 and a half on 3a over yours

and it's the only real timesave that isnt 5b

[dusk moon]

movement WASD
jump Space
dash M
grab K
demo L
2nd jump Semi-colon
(I'm weird)

[lilac ledge]

oo wasd user

[dusk moon]

Minecraft ruined me

[gloomy iron]

good hand position tbh

[dusk moon]

my controls were way worse before, I had grab on Tab and dash on Right Ctr

[gloomy iron]

i use base controls so zxcv and arrows

[lilac ledge]

i use default and
d 2nd jump
s demo
space 3rd jump
a interact
w e r make load delete savestate

i only made a 3rd jump for 1 room in 1 map

where oyu needed to woost

[gloomy iron]

though my pb also has a really stupid control scheme where i have no dedicated jump button

[dusk moon]

But doing left jelly regrabs were nearly impossible with Tab as grab which I discovered after struggling on moon berry.. and by after, I mean it took me like 50h+ to change it when doing an intermediate map in SJ

[lilac ledge]

jellies reminded me of backboosts

[dusk moon]

urgh

ivory

[lilac ledge]

my brain rolls like a 50/50 every day to see if i can do backboosts or not

i beat that map as my 2nd gm

[gloomy iron]

pain

[dusk moon]

yikes

[lilac ledge]

1st being fliff

and i did 1 room of summit

[gloomy iron]

i dont play much gm anymore tbh i should get back into it

[dusk moon]

first for me was Fractured that I beat in 45 mins

[gloomy iron]

my first took like 20 hours

[lilac ledge]

smth surprising

[gloomy iron]

it also wasnt a gm map

[lilac ledge]

fliff and ivory took a very similar amount of time

i think both were in the 3-4 hour range

like around 3:30

[dusk moon]

Omg my brain just made a connection holy shit, you were active af in ddoc raslei no??

[lilac ledge]

yes

[dusk moon]

nsdiofgubsdnikujfbg

brain is braining

[lilac ledge]

that server is now mostly feinberg

from minecraft

[dusk moon]

I saw BlissBee as common friend and was like omg

[dusk moon]

yeaaaaah ik, common server between us

[lilac ledge]

old clip from last year

also a motu screen

but like it's so peak

look at that

it's so awesome

you don't see much gameplay that vertical

[dusk moon]

im still not over remembering 1-2 years ago your activity in ddoc sorry

the username is giving me mad flashbacks

[lilac ledge]

how do oyu remember me like

[dusk moon]

its a small world

[dusk moon]

idk ajusifbiasdbffbawsf

we never interacted but i just remember

like its crazy

[lilac ledge]

you should join smots gaming

it's like where ddoc moved to basically

and it's actually active

[dusk moon]

im not very active anymore in the celeste community sadly

[lilac ledge]

you don't need to be

[dusk moon]

more like in the sense that I haven't read shit in any celeste server that im in in like 6 months+ lol

maddyL

but running any% and bingos recently has been hella fun and very different from what I usually play

and I also beat a little objective I gave myself so thats fun but I'd like to push sub 40

even though im still 8 mins off

[lilac ledge]

haven't done much speedrunning myself

[dusk moon]

but i have like 5 mins of timesave in like 2 chapters so it's doable

[lilac ledge]

all i've done is a run that was barely over an hour with no knowledge of routes or anything just going in any trying it

[dusk moon]

same until like a week ago, had abt a 54-56 min pb a few months ago, did 3 bingos this week and did 2 runs yesterday which both pb'd

i think ive done like 5-6 full runs total so I feel like my time is pretty respectable for never lerning the routes and stuff

[lilac ledge]

how much playtime do you have

[dusk moon]

198/202, extended c sides and SJ 3/18 gm only

[gloomy iron]

thats crazy

[ivory finch]

well dang!

ig its time

[lilac ledge]

umm

[dusk moon]

expert lobby did take a while lol

[lilac ledge]

when i played sj i first played a few beginners

then i played some experts

then i tried some gms

[dusk moon]

[gloomy iron]

i did about the same

[dusk moon]

i was very linear on my progression

[gloomy iron]

my celeste progression wasnt too far off my neon white in that it was linear for a while and then had one really far ahead thing and went back

[rugged vine]

woah

[gloomy iron]

im so sad i just threw a sub 5:30 3a to a 5:47

i love mandatory one end room death

[rugged vine]

i love respawn cycle being different than normal cycle

[gloomy iron]

i have good strats for both i just died to the last hyper

if you enter the room right it's actually the same cycle after the first oshiro dash

[sleek edge]

maybe 300 hours in 2 months isnt healthy but this game is to o good

[gloomy iron]

300 in 2 months is kinda crazy

my 425 is over 5 years

[gloomy iron]

finally, sub chapter 2

[normal kraken]

hit this today

[wheat yoke]

good video game

it okay

[normal kraken]

around 80 of this is fwg

[normal kraken]

to be fair it is literally my favorite

[normal kraken]

still incomplete

2 death pb

[wheat yoke]

valid

[normal kraken]

ayyy

neon white’s #2

hence why i’m in the celeste part of neon white

[wheat yoke]

yeah

some of my top picks too

[gloomy iron]

same

[ivory finch]

that orb room was hard as HECK (7d spoiuler)

[sleek edge]

lol im also on 7d rn

at 2k-3 now

[normal kraken]

gasp

[lilac ledge]

imagine having to do that backwards with 1 dash

now who would ever do that

[dusk moon]

That would be crazy

[late marsh]

i think I now understand what d1d7 is

or wtv it's called

[lilac ledge]

d1d7 is 7d1d backwards which is 7d with 1 dash which is a fan-made d side for chapter 7

[late marsh]

yeah

[dusk moon]

mmh subpixel dependant gaps my beloved

[elder plank]

no shot I have the highest hourcount here

oh yesn't and bree beat me

most of my time is vanilla too 💀

[lilac ledge]

what goldens does to someone

[dusk moon]

@sharp spire beats everyone lmao

[sharp spire]

lol

[rugged vine]

@indigo inlet

[normal kraken]

that's crazy lmao

[elder plank]

I've had a rough fwg grind

[normal kraken]

yeah i believe it

[elder plank]

idk of anyone who's taken longer

[normal kraken]

lemme check what my time's at

for vanilla vs other stuff

wait i don't need to open celeste i have a spreadsheet

lmfao

uhhh

[elder plank]

spreadsheets

I love spreadsheets

[normal kraken]

~500 hours on other celeste stuff

~150 hours on vanilla

~150 hours fucking around in random mods i guess?

[elder plank]

oh you have yours linked

[normal kraken]

or speedrunning

or madhunting

[normal kraken]

:D

(in reality beginner/intermediate/advanced took 10:50 (rainbow), 7:42 (fc no silvers), 14:02)

(i did them on different saves though)

(the 2 hours you see here for beginner was me FCing them on my second playthrough)

[elder plank]

nice

I just have 1 giant spreadsheet

[normal kraken]

yeah your gaming showcase right

i've looked at it before

[elder plank]

mhm

[normal kraken]

it's great

[elder plank]

thanks

[normal kraken]

you have my respect for these

[elder plank]

that's just the overall playtime

[dusk moon]

wowo woah wo

[halcyon galleon]

hi

[sleek edge]

half of my deaths on berry 1 and gameing room ...

[warm agate]

About that

[warm agate]

Oh we have the same binds just shifted one to the right lmao

[warm agate]

678b and fwg?

[warm agate]

You should do it backwards

With 1 dash

Maybe

[sleek edge]

maybe if i was avian

[dusk moon]

I’m missing 378b and fw (I have 6b)

[rugged vine]

shoutouts 7b

[lilac ledge]

ough

[wheat yoke]

nooo :<

[halcyon galleon]

[dusk moon]

I feel like I got lucky with 7ag, only like 5 deaths past 1.5k

No or 1 death in 2k and 2.5k combined

[warm agate]

Ah
A cycles hater like myself

[gloomy iron]

3b's easier then you think

i got it before 3a

same with 5b

[normal kraken]

that’s crazy

you’re right though 3b is easier than 3a

5b is WAY easier than either though

[gloomy iron]

5b is on par with 2b and 1b

i think 3b is harder but less tedious then 3a

just cause its like 2 minutes shorter

5b is also easier because 5b golden is just speedrun practice

[ivory finch]

Damn did u wallbounce like super late I hate that

[rugged vine]

was a long time ago so im not 100% sure but i think it was just an accidental neutral jump when i wanted a full wall jump

[elder plank]

lowkey agree

[rugged vine]

3b was NOT easy for me that thing took like as many tries as 6 and 8b combined 😭

[elder plank]

whaaat

3b took me less time than 3a

more deaths though

[rugged vine]

dont think i had as many late chokes on any other stage tbh

oshiro ate so many of my berries

[gloomy iron]

3b wasnt that hard but i just feel like learning the cycles was easier then a

[normal kraken]

same

3b was 3 and a half hours, 3a was 7? i think?

maybe 6?

i didn’t write anything other than 678b down

[normal kraken]

that being said i did do 3a before 3b

so whatever that’s worth

[gloomy iron]

3b took longer then 3a but they both took around an hour

like 1:10 to 50 minutes

but i was doing speedrun strats for 3a so it took a long time

5b was like 3 hours but i was doing the same strats i would in a run minus bubsdrop so it was way harder then it couldve been

[rugged vine]

actually in hindsight it was probably because that golden was what it took to finally get me to start practicing in debug

they got so much easier after that

[elder plank]

3a took me 12

3b took me 5

although I probably had more practice with 3b beforehand

still, I remember getting it way faster than I expected

[rugged vine]

damn thats lucky it took me like a whole day lmao

[gloomy iron]

if we're counting every level attept then 3b took like a 10th at most the time of 3a cause of any%

i forgot to count speedrunning in 3a practice

[sleek edge]

its time

[sleek edge]

last screen was torture

[halcyon galleon]

the crummit

[ivory finch]

im at the room.

[warm agate]

you should do the room backwards

with fewer dashes

yes im going to make that joke every time

also whats a good mod to start with
i just beat all of basegame (besides goldens)

[unborn stratus]

strawberry jam collab would be a good pick

lots of good levels of all difficulties and a banger soundtrack too

[warm agate]

k
installing

what difficulty is base celeste closest to
like 7 or 8c

[unborn stratus]

7/8c probably like high intermediate?

take that with a grain of salt though I don't remember too well

o wait there's actually a video that places 7c on that difficulty ranking let me see if I can find it

https://youtu.be/1jgaF-71W-o?si=pLYGRchGsixNfmg1 alright yeah this says 7c final screen is low advanced

[ivory finch]

baaang

fuck 2k3

[dusk moon]

That doesn’t mean you should necessarily start with that difficulty, all the maps are amazing, specially the beginners and they’re a great way to ease into mods

[warm agate]

im starting with the beginers

i just wanted to know where my current limits prob are

im actually starting with the entirety of the library and then the beginner gym but thats neither here nor there

[normal kraken]

7c first room is considered maybe green advanced

the entirety of farewell is also considered green advanced but mostly because of the sheer length and consistent difficulty

realistically your average room is yellow-red intermediate

[wheat yoke]

strawberry jam 🤑🤑🤑

[warm agate]

7c first room is baby easy
Do you mean last?
7c golden is just 7c but attempts take longer imo

[normal kraken]

yes last

[sleek edge]

fuck u

[sleek edge]

i feel like its the most red intermediate to ever red intermediate

[sleek edge]

good luck...

250 deaths in that one room because my muscle memory for reverse hypers disappeared

[normal kraken]

yeah depends on who you ask

7 rooms of harder gameplay vs 92 rooms of easier gameplay

[sleek edge]

300 deaths in berry room...

[indigo inlet]

CRACKED red intermediate

Lmao

[gloomy iron]

it definitely is

even comb and final are red intermediate

but 7c is too

[sleek edge]

and flying battery is somehow green expert...

[indigo inlet]

I would love to say that im a theo hater, but one of my hardest clears is a theo map

So you should play more theo

Its good

[sleek edge]

yeah flying battery was my theo practice

currently 900 deaths into polaris lol

[sleek edge]

yurrrrrr

[dusk moon]

Is it worth going for sub 40 with like learning the route and thats it? Maybe a few solo chapter runs for practice…

[gloomy iron]

yeah

it's hard though

5b makes it a lot easier i think

[dusk moon]

i guess practice does make perfect

[normal kraken]

sick time

[dusk moon]

Also 3A demo is free af, why did I never learn this. 10 times in a row no pause buffer

[warm agate]

damn thats 10 seconds faster than my pb

[dusk moon]

Took me abt 10-20 mins to get that after watching a run

It’s pretty lenient

I can prob push for sub 1:10

[gloomy iron]

sub 1:10 isnt too bad

i have i think a 1:04 pb

and it didnt start getting annoying until :08 maybe

[warm agate]

one day ill finish a run
keep getting annoyed and resetin g

[wheat yoke]

saved 22 seconds on any%!!

main issue was the 4a

i can average sub 4 on 4a most of the time but i died in some long ass rooms

[gloomy iron]

crazy summit time

looks sub 35able tbh

[wheat yoke]

ppreciate it :>

[gloomy iron]

pbed by 10 seconds with 5 more deaths then my old one

i think sub 5 is doable tbh

[gloomy iron]

i was inspired and pbed by a minute

[wheat yoke]

goated! nice job

[dusk moon]

Sub 7 6A is kinda nuts

[wheat yoke]

yeah my run before that was the first time i hit sub 7, this was my second time

[elder plank]

https://youtu.be/SIdSXVmjORY

content

[normal kraken]

sick 1 death run!

[elder plank]

thanks

[rugged vine]

finally found my pb screenshot in the archives

[dusk moon]

goddam, having a plan helps

[gloomy iron]

another day another 3a pb

[dusk moon]

mine was still pretty sloppy, shoutouts to smth like 15 deaths

[gloomy iron]

mine was 3 but i lost like 15 seconds cause they were all either long or super cycle dependant

i need to set a 10 minute timer in runs for fixing my keybinds or something i consistently lose 10 seconds in 4a to it

[gloomy iron]

late flag 2 death into late flag 1 death into missed pb

[normal kraken]

wow a 1:40 city into that?? that’s crazy

good run

[gloomy iron]

pb being that close to sum of best is sick tbh

i havent had that for a long time

[rugged vine]

(prologue was included in the city split so it was closer to like a 1:10) tyty

that run mightve actually been bad for me in the long run because i was chasing that high and pb for so long and never ended up beating it

[warm agate]

why need mess with binds

[gloomy iron]

Cause I cant do cpop without climbjump bound

But I need it unbound for chapter 7 and 1

[normal kraken]

oh okay lmaooo

yeah 1:10 is great good job

[wheat yoke]

woahh nice temple

[warm agate]

why is the only room i ever die to in 2a the end of the long one
its like -15

[dusk moon]

To the dropper or the coins?

I feel like it’s worth taking an extra 3-5 to go slowly through the ending of that one

[warm agate]

the coins

[gloomy iron]

it's the only hard room in the chapter and even with good strats it can be inconsistent

i can send you mine for coins if you want

imo dropper is worse then coins cause if you start the fastfall early you just die and there's no indicator

[gloomy iron]

2a pb with 6 seconds of timeloss

[wheat yoke]

saved 7 minutes on 100%

[warm agate]

212 death 100%
ive gotten more than that in any%

[wheat yoke]

it's just all thanks to the goldens practice

[indigo inlet]

Is 177th berry the 1A dashless?

[wheat yoke]

yea

i learned minutes after that run that src doesn't even count it

[elder plank]

huh why

oh bc modded?

[normal kraken]

i'm pretty sure it's because it's a golden

also it's like

much harder to get consistent for low level players? i don't know if that's criteria or not

[gloomy iron]

it's just that goldens aren't part of 100% yeah

itd be weird to have winged and no other golden

[wheat yoke]

i'm aware it has to be on vanilla, for the record

it was just funny that my own idea of "100%" had a little extra to it

[indigo inlet]

@wheat yoke do you have to beat pico-8

bcs besides pico-8 and 1up i think, 100% is baically getting all achievments

[gloomy iron]

i thought you needed 1up for 100%

[wheat yoke]

this is the full list of rules, so i'm gonna say no to pico-8 & 1up

all 25 levels, all 175 reds, & moon berry

[indigo inlet]

would be dope if 100% included pico-8 lol

[rugged vine]

Sounds like it's meant to just be everything that you can see on the file select

[sleek edge]

the part after the one bubble was so hard for no reas on

[wheat yoke]

this level looks really fun, what's it called?

clean btw

[indigo inlet]

havent played it, but looks like deep blue from strawberry jam, gm lobby

[wheat yoke]

huhh

isn't deep blue intermediate lobby?

[indigo inlet]

oh yeah

[wheat yoke]

ah okay

[indigo inlet]

it sounds alike, i dont rember

[wheat yoke]

goootcha

this is a sign i have to play gm lobby

HAVE to, no choices allowed

i just didn't have fun with summit downside it's the only thing keeping me from doing heartside </3

[gloomy iron]

downside is like that

it's built for that even

[indigo inlet]

if only i played celeste more

i cleared summit downside with secret ||with theo|| and was playing through its remake, white agony summit, but its literally on a hard list, so im not even done with 1/3 there

i would love to do at least try the same secret on white agony summit, but idk

i also want to clear RFTS

im stupid and ambitious

the least i should do is complete crossover collab

[gloomy iron]

im so excited for the new downside-like even though im not good enough for it

it looks fun

[wheat yoke]

how do y'all like downside i gen don't understand

am i in a server with getting over it fans

[gloomy iron]

but it's red +1 on the low end to green/yellow +3 at the ending

[elder plank]

idk it's alright

[wheat yoke]

i canttt

i hate that game GRR

[indigo inlet]

1. Music
2. Didnt expect much
3. Extremely unique gameplay
4. roller coaster of emotions

[wheat yoke]

yknow fair enough

[indigo inlet]

but you know, i understand

i spent at least 30 minutes at the first crux, first 10 seconds of gameplay if deathless

and its even worse at agony white summit, cause its 3 times as long at least, and just straight up harder

i literally fighting for my life on it, my fingers hurt as if i was climbing fr too

[normal kraken]

good shit!

[normal kraken]

yep

60 something clears

great game

pogostuck, however, is

[wheat yoke]

that explains the love

[normal kraken]

pogostuck fucking sucks

that game kills me

i will beat it eventually

i give it regular attempts

[sleek edge]

drifting deep

[wheat yoke]

ty :>

[sleek edge]

lol i tried downside then i realized u couldnt save progress on the level unless u did save and quit

im now just gonna save it for last while i do the rest of expert

[wheat yoke]

yeah i did that too but now im stuck cuz i don't wanna play it

so whenever i open the game lately it's any% or 100%

which is fine

but i miss sj

it's my own fault

[wheat yoke]

that is CRAZY tho

scary level

[sleek edge]

actual sisyphean level

[sleek edge]

lol i remember when i struggled with deep blue

[dusk moon]

its hard, i cant do berry 1

[sleek edge]

berry 1 was fine but berry 2 is super fucked

and im still halfway through the level

[sleek edge]

God

[normal kraken]

whoah

[dusk moon]

new pb

nvm I got a clean ass run

[warm agate]

Me when yellow +3 is a thing

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-cat-meowing-explosion-total-annhilation-gif-12259466320661618899

I just learned that 1c wg is a possible thing you can do even if there isn’t a berry

[gloomy iron]

i saw that video too that was a cool trick

[dusk moon]

finally a pb im sorta happy with, lost abt 5-10s to a death

[sleek edge]

torture

[clear kelp]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/644315

[gloomy iron]

oh it is +4 i thought it was mid +3

so it's a 10*

[clear kelp]

final section is low-mid +3

full map is high 3 to low 4

[gloomy iron]

i guess it's rated higher cause the whole restart the map on fail thing

[clear kelp]

yeah

well not always a full restart but ye

[wheat yoke]

first silver in a while

[normal kraken]

9* or 10*

people were saying 9* in celestecord

that’s

horrifying??

we have one 8 star right

[gloomy iron]

yeah

i assume it'll be 9 cause there might be a contest or something for the first 10

[dusk moon]

well it's gonna be considered 9*+ for now no? Just like 8+ for rfts

but someone needs to verify it for it to be on the sheet no?

the TAS looked diabolical

[gloomy iron]

i dont think it gets verified for a long time

even with states it'd be 10 hours+ for most people

[dusk moon]

Can't wait to see people fall from windspire peak to like gloomveil chapel

[indigo inlet]

this is so peak my god. I thought that a 1 star is already really cool for downside gameplay, but 9 star... Im just awestruck and horrified looking at this map! Its size, its limitations (surely savestates are banned), sheer difficulty, a challenge truly unique. The Everest of celeste, hands down

[gloomy iron]

this map on laptop keyboard is kinda awful actually would not recommend

seventeen thousand misdashes

[indigo inlet]

also it seems to me that aeriebloom (pre last crux) is much harder than windspire peak (last crux)

no way the latter is harder

[indigo inlet]

one misdash and you a splash

[gloomy iron]

not too bad for first attempts, i got to the sign

[indigo inlet]

really fancy how the map's called mount basically

[gloomy iron]

its fun how hard it is to look up

[indigo inlet]

let me try it

are savestates allowed?

[gloomy iron]

it's first result but google tries to autocorrect it on my end

to practice probably

[indigo inlet]

ok thanks, no cockblock it seems like

i really want to savestate through this

[gloomy iron]

my goal is get to a2 right now

dont think i have savestates right now

[dusk moon]

It’s actually mentioned on the gamebanana page that the last crux is actually high 7* contrary to the former that is mid 6. I’m assuming the wind really messes you up on last, specially the 3 platforms with the wall above

[wheat yoke]

hop ON Skyline Usurper

this level has some clean rooms

[gloomy iron]

i loved skyline usurper when i did it

one of the more fun maps in that lobby

[wheat yoke]

yeah it's great

i put in silver progress a few months back and decided to actually play the other expert maps instead

so i have a 3 death and right now im goign for silver again

died twice in final because i didn't have height for a wavedash

jsut dash right into the spikes xD

just waited too long to do that double dash so i lost my height

WOOO

anything but play summit downside

[indigo inlet]

Wait are you secretly a top celeste player. This shit savestateless is pure hell

[dusk moon]

learned from 0 in like an hour

5A on my pb run was a 7:58, with this pace, I shave 3 minutes off of that run only on chapter 5

i got abt 30 seconds in 1, 30-60 in 2, ~2 minutes on 3, ~1 minute on 4 and up to 3 minutes on 5, so a good pace already gets me within a minute of sub 40 and I still havent learned 6 and 7 (ffs ofc). File time is total time practicing any% since my pb

[sleek edge]

fluked the part after the last feather

[wheat yoke]

ooh nice time

[wheat yoke]

hoooly shit this looks so FUN ggs

[dusk moon]

im so mad i didnt ss pom just randomly afk in front of mosaic garden just now

on a random channel in cnet

[wheat yoke]

yeah we were gonna play it but we had been playing celeste for a while so we hopped off and they were afk to do something

[dusk moon]

oh yeah, i forgot i have you friended on steam and saw that you were on for like an hour and a half before my current session, makes sense

[wheat yoke]

mmmhmm

they wanted to try skyline usurper so i went back to silver attempts

[dusk moon]

peam

personally was playing with a friend and suggested him clockwork (I almost wrote clocktower) and recleared it myself in less than 30 minutes so im pretty happy with that, around 130 deaths, could silver maybe

[wheat yoke]

YEAH good ass level we replayed that too

you should totally silver it

[dusk moon]

I think my current hardest is like 6B so like... next would be like starlight station

[wheat yoke]

that's a good one

chat i would like silver suggestions please

need to get my list

??????

okay yyeah what silver should i get next please help

[gloomy iron]

I wouldnt say top but I have beaten a hist map

[indigo inlet]

Theoretically, if cp1 is a 4 star, that would be your new hardest?

[gloomy iron]

By quite a bit yeah

My hardest rn is not even full completion of cpvl

[indigo inlet]

So real of you

[sleek edge]

lowkey would be way more fun if i had a better pc lol

i love screen tearing and lag spikes !

[normal kraken]

felt

my hardest is 2/3rds of pumber

[normal kraken]

summit downside

[sleek edge]

took way too long but whatever

time for 3a...

[sleek edge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJH087b8WUM

[dusk moon]

Clockwork or sds

[indigo inlet]

If you liked it, also do vinculum

[normal kraken]

if you liked it

[dusk moon]

urgh berry 4

fml that shit was ass

[indigo inlet]

It seems that my vinculum love is not as shared as i thought

[elder plank]

gg7ag

[indigo inlet]

i was so wrong. I didnt know ||the wind on last crux is doubled||, this is pure torture and impossible

[dusk moon]

first run since this one yesterday was a 3:34 so this clearly wasnt a fluke

also had a few deaths but none that were particularly slow

theo section was amazing

and just got a 5A cassette pb, think it was a 1:30 flat

[dusk moon]

FUCK I FORGOT TO SS (got a 3:13 on 5B, went deathless to cassette, wouldve prob been a 3:08 or sum without the death)

[wheat yoke]

unfortunate </3

[wheat yoke]

walked right into that one didn't i

[wheat yoke]

clockwork yeah for sure

[wheat yoke]

vinculum works as well i love vinculum

jelly gameplay my beloved

and the strawberries were really fun too

[gloomy iron]

with or without bubsdrop?

[dusk moon]

with

[gloomy iron]

that's a pretty good time

[dusk moon]

i can get sub 4 without but yeah

[gloomy iron]

you can probably get sub 3:30 without it only saves 20

[dusk moon]

felt more like 30 from my experience

[gloomy iron]

fair enough

i think with perfect movement it's like 19

i save 22 with it

[dusk moon]

its probably lack of experience, usually get it at 31-33s

[sleek edge]

that jelly climb berry sucked so bad

took half of my deaths on that level

[wheat yoke]

it was so learnable tho so i liked it

vinculum berries SLAPPED

tho i have to say, my favorite berries in SJ were like everything in FLOATING POINT

you really have to look for them and then clear the room it's awesome

u work for that shit

[clear kelp]

savestates are encouraged actually because of the difficulty

[dusk moon]

So true, the last one is sick af

[wheat yoke]

YEAHHH

[sleek edge]

a red expert that i actually enjoyed...

[normal kraken]

super cool map

[indigo inlet]

@gloomy iron i got halfway through mount tin with savestates. Every new checkpoint becomes so much harder than the previous one... 10 hours in rn

[gloomy iron]

Good luck

[warm agate]

Is it jump king style

[gloomy iron]

Yeah sorta

[stoic sparrow]

OHHH SHIT BIG DUB DEZZY

[dusk moon]

BIIIIIIIIIIG

[elder plank]

ty goats

[unborn stratus]

huge stuff congrats!

[teal violet]

holy nice 🐐

[wheat yoke]

HOOOOOLY CONGRATS

[gloomy iron]

Huge golden ggs

[echo juniper]

congrats goat!

[elder plank]

[indigo inlet]

i feel like this part says a lot about mount tin raw difficulty even if you havent played it

if you get the right cycle, its somewhat chill

the ledges are at most 3 pixels, but thats for 1 frame, so they are usually like 2 pixels for 10 or so frames

[indigo inlet]

this one is really cool

[normal kraken]

whoooo!!!

got any cool stats?

[elder plank]

They're all in the description mostly

[warm agate]

Do the springs not give you back your dash?

[indigo inlet]

the blue ones dont

[warm agate]

Oh damn

[indigo inlet]

and theres a lot of those

[warm agate]

damn thats fast

[wheat yoke]

tyty

[wheat vine]

I had to use assist mode for that one when I played 😭

[wheat yoke]

hard chapter

[autumn stirrup]

second farthest run i've gotten with the berry, the farthest is the end of the very next room after this lol

[wheat yoke]

goddamn, windsprings is a violent violent murderer

good run tho

[normal kraken]

rough

[gloomy iron]

rip

[dusk moon]

Gotta be one of the more inconsistent rooms. From my experience, a diagonal demo into the bottom of the block makes it more consistent by making the frame gap to dash a bit larger since I think an up dash if it isn’t a demo is like a 2-3 frame iirc

[autumn stirrup]

The diagonal demo is wildly inconsistent for me

[gloomy iron]

the updiag for me is like 90% consistent compared to the up being like 40%

but that room is hell regardless it feels like rng most of the time

[warm agate]

wait wtf you got scammed there

[elder plank]

I found it gets insanely consistent if you do a super a little earlier than you'd think you need to

I've gotten 30x streaks on it

[rugged vine]

true

updemos are the way

also i think that screen actually drove me crazy looking for stuff

[indigo inlet]

do whats more consistant to you, but if you want to know what makes diag demo so consistant, is that only the height of the initial press matters, gotta be low for that

[indigo inlet]

what in the cursed emmy route is this

[rugged vine]

would you believe me if i told you the first horizontal demo there is consistent

[indigo inlet]

yeah

the next and the last tricks are for sure no

[dusk moon]

that cornerboost is diabolical

[rugged vine]

oh i ended up doing the updemos because they do the same thing but only depend on your horizontal position

pretty neat that it actually just comes down to preference then

[indigo inlet]

ok i lied actually, you just need to make sure that 8 or so frames passes from the dash input to spring, and make sure that you hit the spring before at least 17 or so frames

idk its hard to mesure for me, you uncrouch right after the block so you need to not fall prematurely

[gloomy iron]

that sounds like a hard timing the same way 3a demo setup is a hard timing

[dusk moon]

i mean that just sounds like a 10 frame diag setup no? Doesnt 3a demo have tighter dash timing?

[indigo inlet]

comparing maybe 2 with 10

pretty sure 3a demo is still 1 frame

[dusk moon]

even with 1 pixel setup? feels more like 3-5

[gloomy iron]

it's 8 with good setup 4 with bad 1 with none

or maybe 4 2 1

[dusk moon]

im assuming good setup is like reverse hyper into wall so the dash out of climbjump is bufferable or sum?

[gloomy iron]

yeah

i think it has more consistent subpixels then the 1f/2f tap method

[dusk moon]

i just do 1px without pause buffer and its consistent af

[gloomy iron]

most of them are provided you can hit a 4f

[warm agate]

whats the rules about wind and spikes again
i know spikes are a suggestion most of the time but idr why

[gloomy iron]

if youre facing (and moving?) the same direction as the spikes are you dont die to them

and being pushed into them doesnt count

it's why stuff like the corner jump in 3a works even without wind

i think it's done like that cause of spiked one ways but

[indigo inlet]

this aeriebloom ultra chain is so stupidly hard

wrong channel my b

[sleek edge]

time for 6a

[wheat yoke]

got some new strats and pb'd by 6 seconds, even with some bad deaths

[sleek edge]

nvm im doing 3b first lol

[sleek edge]

yessir

[wheat yoke]

[gloomy iron]

gg

3b is way more fun then 6a yeah

[dusk moon]

Lies, I love chapter 6 (I’m a lunatic)

[unborn stratus]

reflection best chapter

[indigo inlet]

just insane how hard this map is. Savestates run DONE

[indigo inlet]

@clear kelp

[clear kelp]

GG!

[rugged vine]

16 hours with savestates holy shit what a map

[indigo inlet]

i did the last area in 1 hour, and its supposed to be the hardest

the thing is tho, i had the most insight on how to, quote: "3f left, 3 1f taps to the left, then 1f left and insta right jump to even attempt next 2 2f inputs"

and i also used, like, 30 states

[sleek edge]

why is this map So Good

[wheat yoke]

damn good map

[dusk moon]

Theres like 15 peak maps in expert 🔥

[indigo inlet]

all expert maps are peak, but you still have to hate some for the universe balance (looking at you, polaris)

[dusk moon]

Polaris was my favourite 😭 I did not enjoy lunar pagoda at all tho

[indigo inlet]

i have some unpopular opinions due to my inability to route some of the levels

thats why i hate polaris, garden of khutara, lunar pagoda, a change in direction, floating point

not a fan of skyline usurper but its fine

[sleek edge]

lol i literally stopped polaris halfway into the level cuz i was getting annoyed with it unfortunately

[dusk moon]

I disliked lunar pagoda, vinculum, storm runner, flying battery, overgrown linn, fortress fall and narrow hollow was mid

I pretty much found all other levels good

(Actually I’ll make a tier list)

A few can be interchanged

[indigo inlet]

i love sjam

and expert lobby

beginner lobby is A tier,
Int lobby is A+ tier,
Advanced is C tier (half lobby is godlike, half lobby is torture),
Expert lobby is S tier,
GM lobby idk, only 5/19 but probably S too, all the maps are peam

[normal kraken]

i made this ages ago

world abyss is S tier

not ordered

[gloomy iron]

have to agree on eat girl and downside

SiB is pretty goated too

[indigo inlet]

gift from the stars in D breaks my heart💔

[wheat yoke]

let's fuckin gooooo baby

[wheat yoke]

ALRIGHT

i was wrong, that was pretty fun eventually

[dusk moon]

but then berry

[wheat yoke]

yeahs i'll go get it just need to eat some spicy ramen

[normal kraken]

yeah!

fantastic map

the music truly just elevates the experience unbelievably high

[wheat yoke]

NoRedBerries%

[wheat yoke]

[dusk moon]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-fairy-glitter-leo-dude-fuck-yes-gif-996220195472280544

[sleek edge]

does the silver for this map work differently

or is it just collect the heart with no risk of dying

[wheat yoke]

BAAAAAANG

awesome red btw

er

berry

[wheat yoke]

mhm!

it's free cuz if u beat it once u can sure as hell beat it again

and yeah u can't die so

[sleek edge]

i see...

[wheat yoke]

was my last expert to beat, so expert heartside is ready for me

just wanna to get my last two berries from psychokinetic first

[sleek edge]

good luck ...

[wheat yoke]

tytytty!

[sleek edge]

i havent spoiled myself the heartside yet just to surprise myself

[wheat yoke]

🤝

[normal kraken]

no it’s literally free

[wheat yoke]

BANG

i now have all red berries in expert lobby

[wheat yoke]

also cleaned up my fastest clear and deathless a lot

[dusk moon]

Cleaning up ch7 rn, runs soon

sub 40 before February maybe?

[wheat yoke]

very doable for you, yes

[dusk moon]

ok so I decided to play out a run to test consistency

extremely sloppy 5B and 7A

but 7A I genuinely just dont have enough practice

a 12:45 with 25 deaths seems kinda fast tho

[gloomy iron]

your 7a is like on par with my sub 40 7a

i feel like resort is as easy timesave as summit with those times

[dusk moon]

idk how to make up time on 3a, had 2 slow deaths at the end so I wouldve probably barely sub 6 3a

ill take the -5:30 tho lmao

but i can save 2 minutes on 5B istg

[gloomy iron]

i think it's my highest timesave relatively on you

cause i have a low 5:0x sob

just fast your movement pretty much

[dusk moon]

on 5B? or both?

[gloomy iron]

3a

my 5a/5b combined best is like a 4:30 and sum of best is a 4:10

[dusk moon]

oh okok

yeah my 3a pb is a 6 flat

[gloomy iron]

5b is also mostly fast movement but it's more strat based fast movement

[dusk moon]

my 7a can go down to 10:xx i think

[gloomy iron]

you say that but 7a is impossible

i think my sum of best is more then 2 minutes below my pb 7a

if you want a really good 5b go get the golden with speedrun strats

[dusk moon]

naaaah, i goldened it and only got like 3 practice runs in, i can def push time down a lot by dying less

[gloomy iron]

oh it's what i did

[dusk moon]

i already have 5bg and my pb is like a 2 death including bubs drop lol

[gloomy iron]

i put like 200 attempts in doing the exact same strats as speedrun minus bubsdrop

[dusk moon]

idk, 5b clicked with me but 18 deaths on that run huuuuurts

[gloomy iron]

my golden run was a low 4 i think

yeah 5b is so fun

the only part i dont like is bubs

[dusk moon]

i hate that the first pause jump is literally just "learn timing"

[gloomy iron]

1 frame tricks are my favourite

i'm not even consistent with pause buffer

[dusk moon]

thats why i dont pause buffer ever

[gloomy iron]

back when i had it practiced i think i was 1/3 on it or something

[dusk moon]

except bubs but pause buffering is consistent af since you just have to hold pause after releasing the first time to get a 1 frame advance

[gloomy iron]

yeah pause buffering is chill

[dusk moon]

so like its just a like 4 frame release or sum so its fine

[gloomy iron]

i dont use it outside of bubs though there isnt reason to unless i start doing bubsless fast 5b

or that one trick in 6b

[dusk moon]

wait so how am i keeping up with your pace?

[gloomy iron]

what's your pace in combined, 4:30?

i haven't optimised it much and i use the same strats i've been using since like 43 minutes

[dusk moon]

on a really good run maybe 5:00 for safety

but i mean my whole run

[gloomy iron]

you're like 4 minutes off my pace no?

i have a 38

[dusk moon]

mmh yeah i guess that is a lot..

[gloomy iron]

it's also cause i throw a lot in runs, i think my sob is a 35 and i dont have a good time on half of 7a for it

i think my best possible with current strats is high 34

[wheat yoke]

celeste

[wheat yoke]

celeste 2

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