Celeste

[normal kraken]

that’s fair

i really like the insanely batshit hard stuff

[stuck folio]

I do enjoy more simple maps tho

[normal kraken]

i have the most fun with like

mid gm tier gameplay

i’m not good enough to enjoy the struggle of average gm+1 stuff yet

[normal kraken]

i like to spend 30-45 minutes on a room

[wheat yoke]

this would make a lot of sense then xD

[normal kraken]

although that’s not what pumber or nelumbo have given me lmfao

[wheat yoke]

i've gotten better but i struggle to do it quickly

[stuck folio]

I think people use a keybind to neutral drop on controller

[normal kraken]

do you use dpad or stick

[stuck folio]

cos otherwise it's just ass

[normal kraken]

stick looks awful with the flick

[wheat yoke]

fair choice

dpad

[normal kraken]

is it hard to like

use the base of your thumb?

(i can’t use a controller basically at all, for reference)

[wheat yoke]

not really no

[normal kraken]

like use the tip for “right” and then press with the base for “down”

i’m not sure how you’d hold it to flick down that fast

[wheat yoke]

it becomes p natural and using the base is p important in my gameplay

esp since i slide my fingers along the dpad

it feels very good

[wheat yoke]

hardest level i've evver leveled

i'm very proud of myself

[stuck folio]

nice !

contender for hardest expert level for sure

[wheat yoke]

thank you!!! i love it

i was gonna move on and come back to it later

but i'm replaying it right away cuz it's so fun

my first clear was like 4 and a half hours

once again likje 40 minutes drained to a berry i didn't get LOL

and an hour for that last room

[normal kraken]

hell yeah

psychokinetic is so fun

[wheat yoke]

[normal kraken]

my uh

9th favorite overall celeste map

5th in SJ

[normal kraken]

yeah that or polaris imo

although there's specifically one room of chromplex that i had a much harder time on

[wheat yoke]

good ass level, got it down to 4 deaths as well

[spice jackal]

not even close

just realized I hadn't made a review yet

[stuck folio]

as long as you're proud of it

[wheat yoke]

girls

[ivory finch]

gilrs…

[wheat yoke]

it's peak

[proud coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1148064338440114247/1254050195721682997/speechmemified_image0-23.jpg.gif.gif

[random moth]

mfs will really goat react anything

[next nimbus]

i should NOT have played this level as a "warm up"

1. i havent played in over a week so im rusty

2. my hands are freezing so im not hitting reverses at all

3. difficulty wise it is kinda the hardest level ive ever done :3

so nice warm up!

[spice jackal]

I can't lie I did not have a good time on this map

might be a reverse skill issue but it was just really frustrating lol

[normal kraken]

damn

i'm a big fan

plus the music slaps

[next nimbus]

yeah I fw the music

idk tho for me it seems a lil unintuitive fast falling then doing a reverse while in the grav field

[normal kraken]

I DID IT

i spent around 3 and a half hours playing most of the map and then 6 and a half hours on final

[stuck folio]

yay

yea that room can be rough

[spice jackal]

hey still less deaths than me

final room took me so long cause I kept choking it

I had like maybe 3k deaths before the last 2 rooms and I ended the level with like 10k

[normal kraken]

volume warning

probably my new hardest map/room

my previous is like

DMR?

i guess?

the first six rooms of pumber?

idk

[spice jackal]

DMR harder than first 6 rooms of pumber

probably

[normal kraken]

and nelumbo final harder than DMR

probably

[spice jackal]

mmmm

idk if I'd go that far

nelumbo as a whole is harder tho

imo

I struggled a lot on nelumbo tho

[stuck folio]

nelumbo took me less time than psychokinetic

[spice jackal]

cannot relate

[stuck folio]

i doubt many ppl can

[spice jackal]

nelumbo took me like

10x more deaths than pk

lol

it almost took more deaths than solar but the last 2 rooms of solar bumped my death count up hella

[stuck folio]

i wish i had any idea how many deaths i had in pk

[spice jackal]

did it not keep track?

[stuck folio]

i speedran it after

so this is like way wrong

[spice jackal]

guh

fair

hey that's like my nelumbo death count almost exactly

10.3

idk if it's 318 I'd have to boot up and check but I'm lazy

[stuck folio]

that was mine

[spice jackal]

nice

I didn't even get the berry lol

I think part of the struggle was that nelumbo is really hard on analog

[stuck folio]

yeah so i heard

the berry route felt easier

[spice jackal]

yeah not for me lol

[stuck folio]

other levels for comparison

[spice jackal]

nelumbo and superluminary were really bad on analog

[stuck folio]

i figured analog could be good for superluminary

but maybe its just too finicky

[spice jackal]

no cause if you overshoot the angle it completely cancels the movement

[stuck folio]

oh rough

[spice jackal]

which is like

really bad lol

so any time I did the s curves I had to make absolutely sure when I was turning I didn't turn any further than I was supposed to

where as on keeb you don't have to worry about it you just press the key

[stuck folio]

ok thats awful

yea nvm lol

[spice jackal]

yeah it's real bad lol

but it made dreep really chill

[stuck folio]

hm

[spice jackal]

also ivory above pumber is crazy

tho that pumber death count is like

pretty low

[stuck folio]

ivory was my fifth gm map

and it kicked my ass

it took me 10hrs

with states

[spice jackal]

I did ivory as my 2nd GM whoops

[stuck folio]

i did all the greens then spun a wheel

[spice jackal]

fair

I really liked the song so I wanted to play it

[stuck folio]

and i just didnt understand how to get the most speed

[spice jackal]

I think I had like

5k smtn deaths

your pumber was lower than mine tho and I did pumber as like

my 10th?

that shit was hard

[stuck folio]

i also did it as my 10th

lol

but i did not go for any of the berries

[spice jackal]

I did summit last and it clicked with me so my death count on that was rlly low

[stuck folio]

nah i hated summit

[spice jackal]

I did a few berries after but I had like 13k deaths before that I think

[stuck folio]

was probably bottom 3 in the collab for me

[spice jackal]

summit I did in under 3k deaths I was pretty proud of that one

I liked it

tho 1000m was pretty brutal

[stuck folio]

1k sucked

i also cheesed the ending of the room and the mapper came in my stream and hit me with a frowny face

[spice jackal]

lol

summit, dreep, shattersong, and cotcs were like my deaths counts that I was proud of

cycle madness and kts were pretty good too

tho I didn't do shattersong berries, I'm sure it would've been a lot worse had I done them

[stuck folio]

yeah nah fuck those!!

[normal kraken]

i’ve done the first 11 gm maps

skipped to do 6 rooms of pumber

and then beat nelumbo

(~9 hours, 7.5k deaths)

[spice jackal]

Stellar deaths hella low

[next nimbus]

i found a cheese route in a screen of floating point, it skips half the screen and makes it super free 😭

spoiler tagged it in case people dont wanna know

[spice jackal]

lol

[stuck folio]

looks kinda familiar to the speedrun route

goated routing

[next nimbus]

nice "warm up" LMAO

[next nimbus]

such a fun level, one of my favs from all of sj

i know what the hype was about now

[next nimbus]

fun level too

[normal kraken]

https://youtu.be/kfgnDwS45SQ?si=f_DB9am8fG_wzexN

chrome hearts mention

i love invisible deadlocked

[spice jackal]

I like that I've played more of the GM+ rooms than Expert rooms in this video lol

(I've played none of the experts)

[normal kraken]

hi celesters

are there any other gyms like the Hell Gym

where it’s just random ass niche “useless” tech

[normal kraken]

my friend has gotten addicted to learning weird celeste tech so i’d love to send more her way

[spice jackal]

I think hell gym pretty much covers it

Idk if it teaches half stamina climbs or not

[random moth]

gm+1 gym has some funny tech

like cobwobs and crouch climbs

it is very hard though

[spice jackal]

Tf are cobwobs

[random moth]

cornerboost wallboost

if you do a cornerboost with a neutral climbjump and then wallboost youll just change direction

[spice jackal]

Ohhhh

There was some similar shit in the berry for project lightspeed

Idk if it’s exactly that but ik what you’re talking about

[random moth]

theres also this nrcb which took me so fucking long 😭

[spice jackal]

Oh gross

Mandatory up right

is gm+1 gym just a standalone map

[random moth]

yea

[spice jackal]

I'll have to try it out

might as well also get hell gym

[normal kraken]

damn okay

and no it doesn’t teach hsc

[indigo inlet]

there is lennygold gym

its funky and old

but could be useful

https://gamebanana.com/mods/150464

[normal kraken]

wait is that a different hell gym?

[random moth]

unfortunately there isn't really any gyms that teach some of the funniest nichest tech

i can think of a lot of tech where probably the only time i can remember it being used was break my ivory tower 😭

[indigo inlet]

no way

i would love to check the whole ivory tower riddle, but i have to beat ivory first💔

[spice jackal]

BMIT is so funny but also so awful

[stuck folio]

i heard theyre getting close to solving it again

[spice jackal]

Wdym again

[stuck folio]

because it has been solved several times and the mapper decided they werent the correct solutions and issued a hotfix to patch them out

[spice jackal]

💀

So current thing is unsolved?

[stuck folio]

possibly im not that invested

[spice jackal]

Fucked up

Also what was that one shattersong room

[spice jackal]

Madness

[stuck folio]

the video posted under that is also invalid as it got decheesed again

[spice jackal]

Buh

[stuck folio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JBGQXjitIQ

spirialis the goat

[spice jackal]

I know I went and I unlocked the madness room in shattersong but actually playing that room is uh

skull emoji

[stuck folio]

is that the one behind the ||omori door||

[spice jackal]

Yeah

[stuck folio]

lmfao

yeah that shit looked turbo ass

i watched someone play it for like 5 mins

[spice jackal]

Even just getting to it was a huge pain

[stuck folio]

im not sure how u even get access to it

other than like doing the 3rd berry or some shit

[spice jackal]

Find all of the secret fucked up music pages then go to the door I think

[stuck folio]

ahhh right

wait thats kinda genius

||i never thought about how it could link to omori||

[spice jackal]

I haven’t played omori so I have no reference

For all those that just joined chat we’re using slang, ori is short for omori

[stuck folio]

true

i'll just put that there incase

but u should play omori

there are a number of trigger warnings that are important but if u get past those its awesome

[next nimbus]

yeah omori is a must play

[normal kraken]

yeahhh

i'm sure i'll be able to eventually

the music is FIRE though

definitely recommend at least listening to the ost

[tough jacinth]

gg!

[tough jacinth]

there's some stuff in the works. Some of them are kinda dead projects, but plently of stuff is likely to come out

oh and play Alaska

[tough jacinth]

Alaska B-side if you haven't been told about it yet

[normal kraken]

awesome

ty

[ivory finch]

https://youtu.be/H3ykLSbPalc?si=UvcAjbS06lHysvTh does this count

[gleaming leaf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8NdsXp2zT0

[indigo inlet]

holy he actually sticked through

programmatic my goa🐐

[normal kraken]

WHAT

[ember estuary]

oh this is fuckin awesome

[gleaming leaf]

scolit's playing through it on vc and like

[normal kraken]

me and another gm+1 friend are playing it tonight

[indigo inlet]

@waxen geode i got through 3 rooms today, total banger. Did NOT expect it to be so hard)

[stuck folio]

[normal kraken]

i’m about to start

we’ll see how my routing skills hold up lmao

oh boy i'm already unsure of how to save time lmfao

[spice jackal]

it's very tough but very fun

on room 4 rn and it's pretty brutal

[normal kraken]

do you happen to have clips of clears

i'm awful at routing

i can't figure out the ending of room 2

[stuck folio]

can u send apic

i dont remember if theres binos or not

[normal kraken]

this part

although tbh the time seems to run out quickly so i might be routing other parts wrong

[stuck folio]

the fact theres a oneway at the bottm makes me think u super there

ur under a time limit?

[normal kraken]

around 6 seconds per room

[random moth]

yea

all the rooms have time limits

[stuck folio]

thats awesome

[random moth]

it is

[muted mantle]

why is the new norm there..

[normal kraken]

https://medal.tv/games/celeste/clips/kvVZbAtjikEjHt3pV?invite=cr-MSx1elcsMzI1NTgyMjE1

first room for example

6.3 second time limit

i got it like frames before the time ran out

[normal kraken]

it's a long story

[stuck folio]

???????

[normal kraken]

i have custom art for everything on steam

this was a random joke from like

probably almost a year ago by now

with some friends

don't worry we all hate literally everything about it

[normal kraken]

yeah i think so

i'm not sure how to do it quick since i need to dash to hit the demon on the right

i can try clipping the issue if you want

okay here

https://medal.tv/games/celeste/clips/kvWmV51dCBTTj7j88?invite=cr-MSw5c0gsMzI1NTgyMjE1

i'm going super slowly but this is the best route i could come up with

this seems wrong though

[stuck folio]

i didnt know u could customise games like that on steam

[random moth]

buffer updash when you break the first block

[normal kraken]

yeah

i can do that all quick sorry i'm just trying to show the route

i don't get the ending it feels wrong

[random moth]

also when you break the 4th one you can buffer the reverse

[normal kraken]

if that's the route though i'll go for the speedy version

[normal kraken]

yeah!

[random moth]

i can't help you with the ending, i cheesed it

[normal kraken]

i've got custom art for basically all of my games

https://www.steamgriddb.com/

you can find fitting art here

i've got custom art for most games

i have all of the art that i use in a google drive if you want any of it

[stuck folio]

im pretty shit at routing that was where a lot of my time came from in the original map

[normal kraken]

dang ok

[random moth]

not the whole room just to clarify lmfao, i just did something at the end which was pretty obviously not intended

[stuck folio]

can u wallbounce up to the pink demon

does that kill it

[random moth]

you have to dash through it

[normal kraken]

no

it doesn't unfortunately

[normal kraken]

yeah with this route i'm like a second slower

i stated the room with the proper(?) strats

[stuck folio]

can u show me ur fast attempt

ah its stated

[normal kraken]

yeah

[stuck folio]

im kinda curious i may look at it 2mro

[normal kraken]

oh wait i might have it

[random moth]

i can send a clip of my clear if the beginning helps at all

[normal kraken]

https://medal.tv/games/celeste/clips/kvWvOTehfxwvfeoS4?invite=cr-MSxPTUEsMzI1NTgyMjE1

this might be the route

failed wavedash

[spice jackal]

pretty sure it is but I went over anyways cause it's easier lol

[stuck folio]

doesnt really lead into a super though does it

[spice jackal]

also

[normal kraken]

okay yeah that's my route until the ending

[spice jackal]

room 4

[random moth]

also i just realized the bird is supposed to be mikey 🐐

[random moth]

ive got room 4 routed i just cant execute it 😭

[spice jackal]

it's really hard

[normal kraken]

no not really

i'm still getting +0.63

damn

[random moth]

LOL I JUST DID IT

[normal kraken]

better than my previous route

[random moth]

right as i tabbed back in

[stuck folio]

nice

[normal kraken]

well i'll just do this then LMAO

[spice jackal]

same

lmao

[random moth]

do u have a clip i wanna see if our routes were any different

[random moth]

oh u did the beginning different to me

ill send mine just gimme a sec

[muted mantle]

this is so sick\

[spice jackal]

oh weird

that looks faster

actually idk

it's close

kill me now bruh

reverse spam incoming!

[normal kraken]

also hobo fufa

i didn't know you played celeste

clearly y'all are good at it though

[random moth]

most of my friends are celeste players lol

and theyre a lot better than me to say the least

[muted mantle]

fork found in kitchen

[normal kraken]

i know bree is cracked

[normal kraken]

i got all of my friends into neon white but like

one of my friends is GM+1 tier

i got a couple people into like

intermediate/advanced

other than that i don't know celeste players

[random moth]

this one hard af

[spice jackal]

yeah I'm a GM+ player 🤓

[spice jackal]

yeah I have a route but I know I'm gonna choke the ending a few times

[random moth]

i can play gm but i don't think i'd consider myself a gm+ player

i have one hist clear and it did not feel as hard as it was made out to be

[spice jackal]

this memory leak been a pain in the ass recently tho I might have to reinstall everest cause idk why it's doin this

[stuck folio]

im a gm+ player (i've done 3+ speedruns)

[spice jackal]

I say I'm a gm+ player but I've cleared a whole like

3 GM+ levels

maybe 4

[random moth]

which ones?

[spice jackal]

mauve, pale violet, GMHS, and project lightspeed

[random moth]

can't say i've heard of pale violet

[spice jackal]

it's just mauve but worse lol

[normal kraken]

hell yeah

[random moth]

oh lol

[spice jackal]

as in less good, not particularly harder

[normal kraken]

okay i can't figure out how to do room 3 now lmaoooo

[normal kraken]

my two hardest clears are DMR and nelumbo FC

so

whatever skill level that puts me at

i've also done most of pumber

[spice jackal]

GM player ig

[normal kraken]

yeah

[spice jackal]

le Grandmasta

MastaG

[random moth]

🔥

FUCK i just choked r5 ending

[spice jackal]

yeah I've made it past the ultra chains like

twice

and then immediately botched it

[normal kraken]

anyone have a route i can steal

bro i'm so ass at routing lmfao

or more accurately

i have zero patience for it

[spice jackal]

😭

[random moth]

fuck that sucks

[spice jackal]

you gotta fly holy

[normal kraken]

oh shit yeah

[stuck folio]

u should just wait a day or something lol

[normal kraken]

yeah i just left lmao

i'm gonna play god mode it looked cool

[spice jackal]

you gotta be shitting me

[random moth]

how are u doing the ending? i think mine isnt right

[normal kraken]

oh that sucks

[spice jackal]

I can clip when I get a run

ok I got the room lemme send the clip

[random moth]

oh

[spice jackal]

it's like reverse super > discard > reverse wave dash > reverse wave again > discard

[random moth]

my ending wasnt the problem im doing the start wrong

my ending is the same

[spice jackal]

oh lol

I've made it to the godspeed card poggers

[random moth]

YES

i still did it with my fuck ass start

was literally one muscle movement away from retrying at the end 😭

[spice jackal]

this godspeed is disorienting as fuck

that start is wack

[tough jacinth]

Omg is that a neon white map

Peak

[spice jackal]

man lvl 6 is fucked

the time limit is so brutal

[random moth]

yeah fr

[spice jackal]

best I've gotten is +.2

[random moth]

i had a run i thought was decent and its +1.5 😭

nvm i figured out the sauce

[spice jackal]

+0.13

dude how

that run was so good

idk if I'm missing smtn or if it's just really tight

[stuck folio]

id imagine that card over there is useful

[random moth]

yea use all three cards at the start and then neutral before wounce

[spice jackal]

dude this lag is pissing me off

the room is hard enough

[tough jacinth]

can you ultra off the glass?

[spice jackal]

I've been trying it's really weird

[tough jacinth]

interesting

[random moth]

+0.10

[tough jacinth]

cus I read that as ultra --> cb

[spice jackal]

FUCK

lemme lock in

this gonna be my last room of the day

[tough jacinth]

that's 1 or 2 frames off. Wild

[spice jackal]

+.05

why is this so brutal

I'm gonna lose it bro

DUDE

another .02

[random moth]

I DID IT

HOLY FUCK

@spice jackal here's my clip if it helps

that time limit is fucking ridiculous

[spice jackal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274079846271815701/1277016724104937584/fajbuil7k8jd1-1.gif

the amount of sub .1 dnfs I've had is ridiculous

[stuck folio]

celeste dnfs

[spice jackal]

ohhhhhhh my god fucking finally

holllllly that was a pain in the ass

evil time limit

I will continue tomorrow

I just realized no game audio lol

[normal kraken]

that's insane

[spice jackal]

ok thank fuck

room 7 is so much more chill

time limit wise at least

banger room

[spice jackal]

room 8 done as well

[spice jackal]

I have absolutely ZERO idea on how to do room 9

been here for half an hour and feel like I've made no progress I just don't see the vision

[spice jackal]

yeah this is cooked I have no fucking clue

actually so confusing

[spice jackal]

stumped on room 9 for now ig

I'll come back to it another time

[spice jackal]

oh he uploaded a video of the full level

ig I'm watching this lol

[wheat yoke]

saved 57 seconds

[strong plaza]

theyre gaming!!

https://tenor.com/view/celeste-madeline-maddy-bounce-the-ac-is-on-she-has-water-and-is-listening-to-her-favorite-music-gif-22986039

[wheat yoke]

[spice jackal]

yuge

[random moth]

@spice jackal we gotta redo room 2

the cheese was patched 😭

[spice jackal]

I gotta re-record rooms 1-3 anyways

I watched the full playthrough, the later rooms look pretty fucked up

room 9 sucks balls

[random moth]

i found out why we needed the cheese

there was a whole ass reverse we werent doing

[next nimbus]

fun ass level, i didnt like it at the start but it grew on me

[ivory finch]

banger

[normal kraken]

clockwork!!!!

i love clockwork so much

[wheat yoke]

clockwork so good

[muted mantle]

me (a clock technician) ensuring my customer that ive fixed their clock:

[stuck folio]

the npc streamers on ticktock:

[wheat yoke]

ajnasjdjwjjxne HAJSJWKZKSK

[next nimbus]

another peak level

hated it at the start but loved it by the end

[stuck folio]

cool level

[calm garnet]

my brain physically could not keep up with this video what the fuckkkk

[elder plank]

I kinda underestimated the activity in this thread

Time to check it more than once a month

Anyways I got 3 runs to stubbornness yesterday and technically a run to recon

So that's cool I guess

[indigo inlet]

trying out summit down-side 2, how the hell do you even do this part💀

a more significant spoiler to the said map:
||at times map increases the wind to an unplayable speed, so that you would need to rest somewhere for a while. But this time, the map just said fuck you, turned the wind up and never changed it, advising you to take a break. Absolute cinema||

[proud coral]

[normal kraken]

yes! it's great

[normal kraken]

||i'm pretty sure this happens and it never turns off if you try to savestate lmao||

[indigo inlet]

||i just got out of savestate, i was just resting, just to have proper time||😭

how to do this with theo then

its like

doomed

[indigo inlet]

its ok, i got to my best in 5 mins. Thanks for letting me know tho

[bleak matrix]

even in celeste i cannot escape

[indigo inlet]

i thought only 0.02 is possible...

[bleak matrix]

apparently not

i just started the map, was told to expect 100+ hours of grinding. didnt expect it to be pb grinding

see i can tell this map is way above my skill level because i dont even know what im supposed to do

[indigo inlet]

the map is hard with routing tho

[bleak matrix]

yes but also im pretty sure someone said this was gm+ and i am an intermediate player

[indigo inlet]

skull emoji

gm red

[bleak matrix]

i figured i could do it if i just put my mind to it

i didnt expect to walk in and not be able to figure out what the intended solution is

this is probably the best i'll manage for rush

nvm im goat

[indigo inlet]

i bet thats at least emerald

[bleak matrix]

nvm im still goat

i have not changed my route at all, i just somehow found 5.3 seconds of timesave

i wonder if i can find 6.2 more seconds of timesave

[indigo inlet]

is this 2nd level?

[bleak matrix]

this is the 1st level i believe

glass ocean - 1 rush

[indigo inlet]

gl then

[bleak matrix]

there goes 3 more seconds

[indigo inlet]

@normal kraken THIS MAP IS HARDLIST, WHAT

i did not expect that

will have to buckle up i guess

[normal kraken]

yeah this is way above int level

if you want a scale: int is considered to be 15-30 out of 100 on the difficulty scale

GM is 60-75 (and this map describes itself as roughly a 75), and GM+1 is like 80-90

[spice jackal]

there's a scale?

[normal kraken]

so for scale: you’re roughly a 25 trying a 75

[normal kraken]

eh

kinda?

parrot made one up years ago and i think the community rolled with it

[spice jackal]

hard to keep track of because maps keep getting harder but ig I can kinda see it

[normal kraken]

i have it copied into my sheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fYjaTvDw2g9R6mpLAfWHv2_2pyjwVz9G6TKwj0D9NzU/edit?usp=drivesdk

check “difficulty reference chart”

it’s definitely outdated since the last time i touched it was when solar purgatory dropped

[spice jackal]

super outdated yeah

could probably shift the whole chart over by like

10 points

ish

or like condense it a bit

[normal kraken]

probably yeah

[spice jackal]

the hardest stuff I've cleared is probably only an 80ish since it's low end hist

[normal kraken]

but i don’t really use it myself i just use it for scale for newer players

[bleak matrix]

i feel like most hard maps you can just sorta ram your head at it for a long time and eventually you'll beat it though, right?

[normal kraken]

since sometimes it’s hard to really gauge “gm vs low hist”

[spice jackal]

yeah I go based more off the colored GM stuff

yeah

[normal kraken]

yes excluding tech

like a less tech heavy map for sure

[spice jackal]

like the neon white level feels like

VERY high GM

[normal kraken]

but i feel like sometimes you gotta build up that tech knowledge

[bleak matrix]

i feel like you can just ram your head at tech for a billion years

[spice jackal]

borderline green + 1

this shit is quite hard

I still gotta go back now that I actually know the route for room 9

[normal kraken]

i mean your first clear of covenant can be all of the shocker dupe routes but you’ll lose time on general game sense

[bleak matrix]

this shit does not feel like i can just ram my head at it

ramming my head is gonna get me like a +2.0

[normal kraken]

well yeah

you don’t have complete control over maddy’s movement yet

[spice jackal]

have you tried ramming your head into the other GM levels? you'll probably get the same results lol

[bleak matrix]

i have not

[normal kraken]

realistically the difficulty in GM is entirely based on learning muscle memory

[bleak matrix]

theres a step between advanced and gm right

[normal kraken]

expert

[spice jackal]

yes

expert is like

[bleak matrix]

i have rammed my head at expert maps

to some results

[normal kraken]

like when i play gm maps i basically don’t even look at madeline

[spice jackal]

an incredibly critical step lol

[normal kraken]

i just use other random stuff as visual cues

since it’s so muscle memory based

[normal kraken]

i’ve built up the instinct of “okay madeline will go x distance at x speed” over like 700 hours of playing other maps

[normal kraken]

you’re skipping this learning by going from intermediate to high GM

[spice jackal]

even the gap between low GM and high GM is huge

[normal kraken]

like sure you can ram your head into the wall and learn the room but it’ll take forever

[normal kraken]

true that

[spice jackal]

kevin tech spam vs nelumbo lol

[normal kraken]

after i beat nelumbo i decided to play fractured iridescense and some expert maps

[spice jackal]

both "grandmaster"

[normal kraken]

and holy shit

[bleak matrix]

my route might not be possible to -0.0 on

[spice jackal]

nelumbo is another borderline +1 tho

[normal kraken]

clip it?

[bleak matrix]

did, trimming clip now

[normal kraken]

it took like two years for them to officially reject it from hist lmao

[spice jackal]

I think if it had like

more than 1 berry, FC would get hist

[normal kraken]

that final room was by far the hardest room i’ve done in celeste

the rest of the map took 3 and a half hours ish? final took around 6 and a half

[normal kraken]

i don’t know what the standards are for “one room might be gm+1”

[normal kraken]

for this

[normal kraken]

yeah i’m gonna say no

i like the route though

that’s very creatuve

[elder plank]

I'd love to get the glass ocean golden someday

[bleak matrix]

i realized like 15 mins ago that im doing the middle wrong but i wanted to try and push the route and see if it was good enough

[normal kraken]

this is my clear

this was barely barely fast enough

[normal kraken]

i’d recommend grinding out the chained ultra gym part in SJ

i don’t think the chultra would have been tight enough either way

[normal kraken]

i meant to respond to this btw sorry

i think it’s just the FC?

[indigo inlet]

nah

[normal kraken]

and the FC requires you to do it with theo lmfao

[indigo inlet]

fc is 2 stars

[normal kraken]

oh is beating it normally a 1star?

[indigo inlet]

fc is speedberry💀

theo is still to be completed iirc

[normal kraken]

oh so like

[normal kraken]

ah

wow

okay

lmaoo

[indigo inlet]

im gonna try it tho

[spice jackal]

Def not possible with that route unfortunately

[indigo inlet]

probbably will go nuts, no savestates and NO ROUTE is insanity lmao

[normal kraken]

yeah like

[bleak matrix]

ew, training

[normal kraken]

to be completely fr i stated through original sds

[indigo inlet]

ew

[spice jackal]

Lol

[normal kraken]

i did a stated playthrough and then did the whole thing on its own

so like i did beat it legit i just practiced it first

and then i got the silver for good measure

[indigo inlet]

tbf, i did stated through theo sj down-side, though its not the same

[normal kraken]

one of my favorite maps in SJ overall

[spice jackal]

I fluked the fuck out of sds

[normal kraken]

in my defense i was about 30 playthroughs deep into getting over it 100% and i was not feeling like doing it stateless

[normal kraken]

same lmfao

[indigo inlet]

white agony summit is so fucking long im in awe.
Its probably 3 times longer

[spice jackal]

I think I cleared the level in 25 minutes

[normal kraken]

i think 6ag was my biggest fluke

[bleak matrix]

i think i can push sub +2 with this route

[spice jackal]

No practice or anything

[indigo inlet]

goat

[spice jackal]

I never had a super nasty fall

[indigo inlet]

whats your hardest?

[normal kraken]

i died like 75 times and then the very first time i made it to badeline i beat it

[spice jackal]

GMHS

probs

[indigo inlet]

2020?

[spice jackal]

SJ

[stuck folio]

my biggest fluke was 5ag

i got it the first time i picked up the golden

[normal kraken]

took me about an hour 10(?) for the three playthroughs

i think the stated one was like 40 minutes

[stuck folio]

but i had already ran it a bit for speedrunning

[normal kraken]

ah that’d help

[stuck folio]

not that i was that good when i got it

[spice jackal]

I don’t think I first tried any of the base game goldens

[stuck folio]

i probably had like a 6 minute 5a

[indigo inlet]

it took me 2 hours, but my hardest at the time was heart of the storm so i guess thats ok

[normal kraken]

what’s that on hist atm?

[spice jackal]

2 star

[normal kraken]

gotcha

[spice jackal]

Is still my only 2 star lol

[normal kraken]

i’m not actually sure what my hardest is

[indigo inlet]

my best fluke was goldening 6a, and then in a speedrun, do 6a deathless somehow

[spice jackal]

I have like 3 1 stars

[normal kraken]

it’s either DMR FC, Nelumbo FC, or the first 6 rooms of pumber

[stuck folio]

gmhs was actually so painful

[indigo inlet]

nelumbo not even on the hlist prob

[stuck folio]

i dont wanna do something like that again

[normal kraken]

whatever it is it’s like low low GM+1 though

[spice jackal]

You’re telling me

[normal kraken]

it’s not

but pumber is

and DMR was

[indigo inlet]

oh i guess you are right

[normal kraken]

but i felt like nelumbo final was harder than either of those two maps

[indigo inlet]

dmr is prob the hardest here

[normal kraken]

so i have no idea

[stuck folio]

nelumbo was comfortably the easiest cracked for me

[normal kraken]

i’m kinda excited ngl

[stuck folio]

took me like half as long as any of the others

[normal kraken]

i started modding celeste like

[spice jackal]

Aight bruh wdym there’s 4 of these fuckers now

[normal kraken]

a week before SJ came out

[stuck folio]

wtf is 7 stars

[indigo inlet]

can we refer to sj gm heartside as passionfriut pantheon pls

[normal kraken]

chrome hearts mention!!!!

[spice jackal]

There were 2 like

Last month

[spice jackal]

Fuck shit hist

[normal kraken]

they reworked it

[stuck folio]

way shitter to shorten unfortunately

[normal kraken]

instead of high 3 star

[indigo inlet]

plasma deck is that one core 3 rooms 3 star, but buffed for no reason, its so stupid

[normal kraken]

and low 3 star

[stuck folio]

id rather write sjgmhs

[indigo inlet]

betrter👍👍

[normal kraken]

or more accurately

[stuck folio]

sure

[normal kraken]

low 1 star = 1 star
high 1 star = 2 star
low 2 star = 3 star
etc

[spice jackal]

FIFTY PEOPLE HAVE CLEARED SOLAR PURGATORY????

Bro

[stuck folio]

anything past 1 star is mental illness

[normal kraken]

so 7star is old 4star

[stuck folio]

imo

[normal kraken]

(?)

[spice jackal]

Yeah

P much

[indigo inlet]

green gm+3, so yeah

i was waiting for gm+3 gameplay for so long

[normal kraken]

mental illness starts at 4star imo

[indigo inlet]

glad it exists now

[normal kraken]

i can reasonably see 3 star stuff being fun

[spice jackal]

The fact that dashless+ is just “another hist map” atp is so not ok

[normal kraken]

and 2 star is like GMHS tier

[indigo inlet]

dashless players wenmt too far man

[normal kraken]

and i can’t speak for that since i’m still in the cracked GM trenches but it looks like a lot of fun

[spice jackal]

Oh I was one room away from clearing a different 2*

[normal kraken]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/455088502548463627/1383108627031654571/ultrajump_cobwob_movement.mov?ex=685b6f89&is=685a1e09&hm=322c862834e59524d8de7d6153cc3d2aa5740a8fe239986d33b7dd86b71dc7ed&

smh

[spice jackal]

It’s just that final room was stupidly fucked

[normal kraken]

love me a popcornwob->rcb

[normal kraken]

which one?

[spice jackal]

Distant wasteland

Super giga banger map

But final is like a minute long

[normal kraken]

oh this is cool as fuck

whoah

this is SO COOL

these are some fire shenanigans

yeah that final looks rough though

how far did you make it?

into the room

[indigo inlet]

7 star: dashless, dashless (almost), precision, theo endurance
6 star: troll map (idk which room is gm+2 even), precision, theo endurance, dashless, mauve style, theo endurance, theo endurance

this hjas to say somethying ab out society

[stuck folio]

it's saying to never play any of those maps

future maps I will play: heavens rush the new version, glyph, monikas D sides

[indigo inlet]

peak choice

Can anyone suggest cool puzzle maps?

[stuck folio]

I heard debug map is good

[indigo inlet]

collections are goated

[elder plank]

I think I would like to clear a 5 star hist someday

but probably not any higher

unless I get bored

[spice jackal]

I don't see myself going past 3 max

[spice jackal]

idr

I think I got it down to 3 sections

maybe 2

it's just hard to do all of them back to back

the double cornerboost is really tough and doing the ending without getting nervous and choking is hard too

final room has like 3 dashbounces in total lol

plus all the other shit

the dream zip block puzzle section is actually the easiest part once you know the route

ok I just timed it, it's like 48 seconds of gameplay

fucked up

[normal kraken]

feather smile is the gm+2 room

https://youtu.be/hMkwJXL0bEs?si=366FRSDsWI_YyQCC

1:50:53 for feather smile
1:52:20 for the ruins (red GM+1(?))

[normal kraken]

ask carrie carrarium

they play them all

but bree is right debug map

and FFFFFF

i think Voyage from ssc2024 maybe?

Reversion from SSC3

there were three in breeze contest (apartment complex in time, asmodeus eternal, and awake)

awake was highly highly highly highly recommended

that’s all i can think of

Celeste Trollsides

(do play those though they’re fucking incredible especially if you like mario maker troll levels)

[indigo inlet]

room 7😭

[indigo inlet]

today i've completed room 4 - room 8, hasty progress

room 9 looks like nightmare

[ivory finch]

parrot in final 3rd again!!

oh :(

dead to hb1 😔

[spice jackal]

F

[spice jackal]

it's ugly

that's where I'm at rn but I've been playing other games

[random moth]

room 9 was very learny but the execution felt a lot more forgiving than the previous rooms

im on r10 atm

[indigo inlet]

do you guys think that room 7 is too tight?

[random moth]

was fine to me

[spice jackal]

I don't think so but it might've just been my route

room 6 was the bad one

[indigo inlet]

i got like 7 0.15 - 0.01 runs before completion

[random moth]

do u have a clip of your clear? might be a route difference as fufa mentioned

[indigo inlet]

gimme a minute

[random moth]

oh i did the start a little differently

yours looks more intended though so i'm not sure

[indigo inlet]

air super?

[spice jackal]

doing the wall climb at the start is not intended

[indigo inlet]

i find basic super to be more consistant

[spice jackal]

you're supposed to upright and then reverse godspeed super on that platform

[random moth]

i did super into 1st demon into upright dash to get enough height to godspeed straight to the 3rd demo

[indigo inlet]

no way you bunnyhop one more time and card into the guy

[random moth]

demon*

[indigo inlet]

yeahhh

thats prob faster

[spice jackal]

yeah that's how I did it

[indigo inlet]

that run is nuts tho

[random moth]

ok yea i just checked clear video that was the intended way

yeah thats a super clean completion

[indigo inlet]

will anyone try to low death glass ocean?

[random moth]

my friend issy has already goldened it somehow

actual machine

[indigo inlet]

how

she is just different i guess

what tier then?

[spice jackal]

well issy is ridiculous

[ivory finch]

its t12 atm

[cosmic swan]

[elder plank]

I think nene goldened it too

[random moth]

i know she was going for it but i didnt see if she got it yet

[elder plank]

yeah she kinda got it really fast

like I think the last 5 or so rooms were first try

[normal kraken]

hell yeah

[indigo inlet]

glass ocean lvl 11 is a mess

so many routes i found viable

[normal kraken]

good mesS?

[indigo inlet]

in my best route, i use 2 elevate cards at the same time, and still get -0.4 with savestates

i dont know where to spend so much resources, bajilion cards and dashes

[proud coral]

[normal kraken]

damn, only took a day

good stuff

[proud coral]

Ty

Core might take me longer fr

[indigo inlet]

sure man

[spice jackal]

damn

[normal kraken]

damn

[indigo inlet]

GG

banger map, though some rooms are so tense, i had to switch from 70 - 100 speed every 30 minutes, you really need that muscle memory

as a nelumbo fun, i find this map a bit harder, but still as fun🔥

also had to swap use of card hotkey from spacebar to "d", much better that way

[indigo inlet]

i didnt record room 9

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-blue-emoji-let-me-in-let-me-out-stan-twt-gif-1129823411457615480

[indigo inlet]

i like this thumbnail ngl

[wheat yoke]

coat (connor of all time)

[proud coral]

[stuck folio]

coated

[normal kraken]

[next nimbus]

[proud coral]

the rest of them are difficult

[stuck folio]

whats left

is it all the b sides and fw

[wheat yoke]

3b-8b and winged

and farewell

[stuck folio]

oh winged is fun

[spice jackal]

winged is chill cause it doesn't actually have to be deathless

maybe I should go back and get 8b

[proud coral]

didnt screenshot but I got winged

[stuck folio]

[random moth]

still fun imo

ive done double golden twice im fond of dashless

[normal kraken]

5b isn’t bad outside of a couple practicable rooms

but yeah 3/4/6/7/8g are all rough

[elder plank]

double golden is probably the most fun I've had with celeste

[stuck folio]

they got Celeste any% medals before we got rush medals 🥀

[spice jackal]

Cyan 3 on god

They call me a cyan player 😎

[stuck folio]

cyan club 🤝

I'm cyan 2

[indigo inlet]

im like 14 seconds of cyan

[gleaming leaf]

im red2 iirc

[proud coral]

I think I barely squeak into yellow 1

[spice jackal]

Maybe after gdq I go back and shoot for indigo

[flint agate]

Bro you got a 41:20 this is not barely 😭

[proud coral]

I didn’t remember what I had

[wheat yoke]

putting on my resume that i'm olive 1 on celeste any%

[elder plank]

oh where did this come from

I guess I'm red 2

[calm garnet]

i got red 40

i actually wanna try celeste speedrunning it seems fun

but i actually have to get good first

[normal kraken]

i’ve done 2 celeste runs ever so i am orange 2 lmao

[spice jackal]

Sub 50 in only 2 runs is pretty decent

[ivory finch]

red 3 gaming

[normal kraken]

i already had like 500 hours by the time i decided to give it a shot

[astral cobalt]

Im counting that old ass nibs suggestion as cannon

[indigo inlet]

did another heaven rush clear, 3 hours this time

[wheat yoke]

super duper fun

[spice jackal]

Peam

[next nimbus]

first red expert done LETS GOOOOOO

that was such a peak level, i loved it

[stuck folio]

hell yeah

that was my first expert level cos the lobby room looked so cool

[spice jackal]

it's a banger

[wheat yoke]

it looks so pretty

[normal kraken]

ayyyyyy

i loved chromplex even if the final room kicked my ass

[next nimbus]

it is super duper pretty :3

[next nimbus]

oh yeah that last room was a massive skill jump but still fun

[elder plank]

gg

[next nimbus]

celeste'nt

[wheat yoke]

oooo i love that one

[wheat yoke]

it's peak your honor

i felt so fucking hot playing this mapp

so so good

fast

[next nimbus]

fast

haven’t tried that lvl yet but I will tmr

I’m eepy

[stuck folio]

impossible to figure out routing on that one

last room is crazy

[wheat yoke]

last room took me a WHILEEE

it was nuts

i also just got a berry

one of the most fun berry rooms i've seen in this mod

[stuck folio]

it's too bad it's not bufferable 💔

[wheat yoke]

this isn't it

oops

[wheat yoke]

thsi

[spice jackal]

Do the other berry it’s fire

Hard as fuck though

Level is red expert imo

[wheat yoke]

i was trying to do it before sleeping but i was soooo tired

when i get back on i will for sure

almost got it a few times

rlly fun

[wheat yoke]

I HOPPED ON FOR LIKE

i've been on for like 3 attempts

and i did the room except just barely missed 1 seed LMAO\

next

[next nimbus]

idk if I wanna do this level now

all the dashes

my brain isn’t braining

[wheat yoke]

LOL

[next nimbus]

actually I remember I tried out the first room on this level

it was the first expert I “attempted”

for 5 mins then left 😭

[wheat yoke]

i seeee

it's fun you just have to throw yourself at it for a while and thigns will work and then it'll be learnd

[next nimbus]

I couldn’t figure out the routing

it hurt

[next nimbus]

oki I will do lots of throwing myself today to learnd 🔥

[wheat yoke]