#Sonnet - Of Names Forgotten

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glacial phoenix
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Where people dead and buried lie in stone,
Entombed with others lost in dark embrace.
Of fire and flame or age and rot, their bones
Still lie inside this hallowed resting place.

In ordered rows of whitened stone inhumed
Are hopes and visions cursed to never pass.
So many graves that sit there lost and doomed,
So few with flowers or well cared-for grass.

When placed like this they lose their meaning too,
Each stone the same as every other is.
Forgotten is what rests beneath the yews,
A corpse with friends, a life, a dreams and sins.

Though staying stagnant in the lonely past
Will cease your journey into futures vast.

stuck birchBOT
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glacial phoenix
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@sturdy fossil @tepid nebula

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First time doing a sonnet

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:)

sturdy fossil
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Also you said my name lmfao

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Okay so it's perfect!

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ALMOST

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The first line of the couplet only has eight syllables

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😅

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Should be easy fix though, I'll leave it up to you!

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Also, mention poppies @glacial phoenix

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Poppies are an extremely important part of respecting and remembering the sacrifices made for the US

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If it's about the US ofc 😅

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Probably shouldn't've assumed 😭

glacial phoenix
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time to go back to kindergarten

sturdy fossil
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Lol

glacial phoenix
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I am from the US but I think it would probably be better if it was more generalized instead of only for one country?

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Cause otherwise it would be like more excluding of other places

reef foxBOT
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*Cause otherwise it

would be like more excluding

of other places*

glacial phoenix
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and we can't have that can we

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haikubot pls stop

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😕

sturdy fossil
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Yea, that makes sense, if it were though, and if you ever do, poppies

glacial phoenix
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yeah

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That would fit nicely, I think

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:)

stark wren
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I LOVE IT I LOVE IT IO LOVEEE IT!! my one thing, when reading this, is i was expencting "dreams AND sins" not dreams or sins. is there a particular reason you chose that phrase?

glacial phoenix
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no particular reason I just thought it would work but now that I read it back...

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welp I changed it

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to be more consistent

stark wren
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you did such a good job dude

glacial phoenix
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thanks :)

hoary surge
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It’s not bad for a first sonnet, but since you asked for harsh criticism . . .

My main note is that this piece doesn’t say anything new. People die, and the living forget about them. It has the rhyme scheme and meter of a Shakespearean sonnet but not much of a volta; the couplet is more of a summary.

Line notes:

Of Names Forgotten

The postpositive adjective is somewhat archaic, though not out of place in this subject matter.

Where all the people lie at rest in stone,

“At rest” isn’t doing much here.

Entombed with others lost in dark embrace.

  • “Entombed” is implied by “lie at rest in stone.”
  • “In dark embrace” is missing an article.
  • The first two lines are a sentence fragment. There’s a time and a place for fragments; I don’t think this is it.

Of fire and flames or age and rot, their bones

Both “fire” and “flames”?

Still lie inside this deeply hallowed place.

“Lie” is repeated; unlike the best sonnets, this poem is in no hurry to get where it’s going. “Deeply hallowed” strikes me as received language, and “place” is nebbishy for how prominent it is as the rhyme that closes the quatrain.

In ordered rows of whitened stone inhumed

More archaic syntax with the postpositive “inhumed.”

Are hopes and visions cursed to never pass.

Close to “hopes and dreams.”

So many graves that sit abandoned—doomed,

Em-dashing “doomed” like that makes me feel as though it’s there only to close out the rhyme.

So few with flowers or well cared-for grass.

First metrical substitution. Fine, but note that the rest of the poem being so iambic draws attention to it.

When placed like this they lose their meaning too,

No notes.

Each stone the same as every other is.

More inversion.

Forgotten is what rests beneath the yews,

The rhymes to this point have been perfect, so “too” / “yews” feels a little sloppy to me. Fronting “forgotten” is more inversion, but this one works for me.

A corpse with friends, a life, a dreams and sins.

“Is” / “sins” feels more than a little sloppy.

The many gravestones lost by time and men
Will fade in memory, again and again.

Second metrical substitution. This one is two anapests for an iamb, which most form poets do not countenance. (Maybe you want the alternative three-syllable pronunciation of “memory” and an anapest for an iamb; rather more acceptable.)

Hope this is useful.

glacial phoenix
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Appreciate the criticism :0

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It's very detailed

stark wren
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i dream for that level of critique