#Agenda Voting + Riders bug

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hoary walrus
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Pdb-8677 - observed scenario.

Player A player's a rider and it's waiting to be resolved due to sabos.
Player A is first in turn order to vote.
Because rider isn't 'resolved' and all have player or passed on all riders voting goes to player A.

Game wise player A can't vote due to riders.

Player A resolves riders.

Game still waits for Player A to vote.


Player A can just abstain, but this obviously can lead to confusion in async. This scenario is also problematic if it's not player A's riders waiting to be resolved due to sabotage timer as sometimes they can vote without realising there is a rider in play.

Ideally voting should not start until riders have been resolved, instead of riders played/passed.

ancient kraken
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Voting will not start until the person who played the rider passes on future riders

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If they're in the middle of resolving a rider, they should just not pass yet

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This is important because that pass will also enable others to play riders, which shouldnt happen until this rider is resolved

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Also, riders should just resolve immediately without waiting for sabos

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Any sabo on the rider will erase it

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So there is really nothing to be gained by waiting to resolve a rider

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I will edit the wording to emphasize this

ancient kraken
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Done

hoary walrus
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If riders resolve immediately you should probably have the option to choose what you rider on in the cards info thread and not actions. So you queue them to actually resolve straight away - otherwise you're effectively playing the rider twice in two different timing windows (not game windows, real life times), which obviously brings about delays.

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Also be useful to queue multiple riders in your cards info thread instead of just one. If as you say others wait on you to fully do everything until you click pass then let the user queue everything up they want. You have the 'play no matter if someone else riders' option, which would functionally work well with this scenario for speed - I note in some cases people might not want to, but for speed with that case it would

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If riders are resolved in cards thread options it should also I assume stop the timing bug where the last player to resolve riders who is first to vote isn't asked to vote by the game (when they can't vote as described above).

A wording change is great but would still cause that issue

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#1351920166677647360 message

You can see this issue evidenced here and the few messages above. It obviously deleted the ask message, but you can see I had to abstain despite playing riders

ancient kraken
ancient kraken
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Other players have a right to butt in between your riders with their own afters if they want

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If they don't want to, then they will have all declined afters, and the bot will allow you to fire all of yours off without further delay (because it will have asked them if they wanted to permanently pass and they would have said yes)

ancient kraken
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Ack, sorry for being testy, just woke up

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There's improvements to be made in agenda, I will work on them