Music Production

[warped plover]

ambient is nice

[thorny mulch]

yeah

[warped plover]

always reminds me of minecraft and undertale depending on instruments

[thorny mulch]

i will stand by waht u just said

🫡

[warped plover]

🫡

everything i say is the objective truth, for i am truth incarnate /j

[thorny mulch]

bruh

yo

i found another one that i made

i think u guys might like it

@eager bluff @warped plover @cerulean pike

how is it

?

[eager bluff]

I could listen to that on repeat

[thorny mulch]

thank you

[eager bluff]

Npp

[thorny mulch]

GUYS

[eager bluff]

YE?

[thorny mulch]

i made something

rate

[eager bluff]

I LOVE IT SMMM 😭

AND THE TITLES ARE A BONUS FR

[thorny mulch]

🫶

[vapid tendon]

yoo which plugin/library did you use for the drums here? i really need the name of this thing man

[static magnet]

that's ncie

[thorny mulch]

yo

[thorny mulch]

soduntrap

uhh

yeah

[thorny mulch]

thx

[charred steppe]

hi

my most recent work

[merry hollow]

First song after I get back into music production and I feel like a beginner with this basic lead lmao

I really need ideas xd

[charred steppe]

I always feel like a beginner 💔

That’s because I probably am a beginner

[merry hollow]

Understandable though

[merry hollow]

Oh by the way guess who got FL ;)

[charred steppe]

Nowayy

That’s awesome

[merry hollow]

Only the fruity edition but I have enough samples and third party plugins so

Xd

[charred steppe]

Isn’t that only 16 racks?

[merry hollow]

Wdym?

[charred steppe]

Arrangement

Tracks

[merry hollow]

Nope? I got all lol

[charred steppe]

Can you use them? 😭

[merry hollow]

I'm confused?

[merry hollow]

They mean audio recordings and stuff I'm pretty sure

Also wait I confused myself I got the second one

I thought that was called the fruity edition-

I'm dumb

[charred steppe]

Producer edition

I have that one too :D

[merry hollow]

Yay :D

Wait

Did you realize

That if you download the trial first

And then buy it

You can still use the trial gross beat

And stuff

Even though thats not included in the version

[charred steppe]

Oo I see

[merry hollow]

[charred steppe]

What’s gross beat

[merry hollow]

....

[charred steppe]

I have serum

Serum squared even

[charred steppe]

I have no idea what that does

[merry hollow]

Gate/volume automation really

Its good

Never use it personally though xd

[charred steppe]

Oowh

So basically a sidechain effect

[merry hollow]

Fruity Balance automations all the way

[merry hollow]

I mean thats a part of it yes

[charred steppe]

I use fruity limiter for that or flux 2 mini

[merry hollow]

You can kinda get halftime effects with it too

[merry hollow]

Ooh I see

I just do this

[charred steppe]

That’s how I made the stuttering effect here

[merry hollow]

This is what I do xd

[charred steppe]

That works too

Music is like Lego pieces

[merry hollow]

Yknow what thats kind of a good description

[charred steppe]

You either like it or you’re in pain

[merry hollow]

Lmao

[merry hollow]

Oh also we can theoretically collab now since yknow

[charred steppe]

Mhmm

I have no idea what to do though

[merry hollow]

Yeah same xd

The genres we do are pretty different

[charred steppe]

Mhm 😭

[charred steppe]

You should try making color bass

[merry hollow]

Hmm I might ngl

[charred steppe]

Pretty fun genre

[merry hollow]

Heard a pretty decent color bass track recently

So maybe

[charred steppe]

You should try protection by hexa vibes & octaneuri

Neuro

**

Im doing a remix for them

It well

Or

There’s a contest for that

[merry hollow]

I've tried to make Neurofunk before

If thats something xd

[merry hollow]

Ooh I see

[merry hollow]

Alright

[charred steppe]

I can invite you to the server:p

[merry hollow]

Hmm maybe not now xd, I'm nowhere near well-versed in the genre currently

[charred steppe]

It doesn’t need to be a color bass remix

They give you 20 or so stems

3 Midis

And you’re on your way

[merry hollow]

Hmm. How long does the challenge last?

[charred steppe]

16th of may

[merry hollow]

Ooh

Whats the reward xd

[charred steppe]

Hmmm

Good question I don’t think he announced that yet

[merry hollow]

Lol

Alright, invite me

[static magnet]

I like

[merry hollow]

Thank you!

[merry hollow]

Getting the hang of Hardwave

[static magnet]

oo

[merry hollow]

Remaking the entire song now because it didn't feel right xd

[static magnet]

ahaha

realest

[merry hollow]

Ikr, I'll send what I have so far

Changed the key and tempo too, feels much better

With the reese bass

[merry hollow]

A lot of automation and stuff is still left

And dw the tag is temporary ik it sucks xd

[merry hollow]

Man I haven't used this many mixer tracks like ever xd

I have 54 mixer tracks and I'm not even done with the first drop yet

[static magnet]

idk music but sounds cool

[merry hollow]

Lol

[alpine wasp]

Do you have Autotune pro Free version ??

[merry hollow]

Nope

I don't even think there is a free version

[alpine wasp]

some months ago I found something like that But I got hacked

after wards

Yes Music Production stuffs are really costly...

[merry hollow]

Yeah they are lol

Your best bet is to learn your daw's plugins well

And only get the essentials if you're gonna pay

Like Serum for pretty much anything besides rock, metal, etc

[alpine wasp]

btw I made a song pls listen and tell how is it

[merry hollow]

I don't really know the genre so I can't say

[alpine wasp]

Bro in my opinion genre soesn't matter whats matter is how beautiful it is to your ears while listening

[merry hollow]

Yeah true, but again, I can't give any constructive criticism

[charred steppe]

aaa @static magnet

And @merry hollow

It’s not done

Yet

80% of it is empty

[merry hollow]

You have plenty of time so dw about it

[charred steppe]

Yeahh

Also what do you think about the orchestral thingy

Somewhere after the drop thing

[merry hollow]

Idk tbh xd

[charred steppe]

[charred steppe]

And overall

Your thoughts

On it

[merry hollow]

Its decent, Idrk what to say, sorry

[charred steppe]

Fair

[static magnet]

oo not bad

[mortal kindle]

made a song after 4 weeks of no music production, any feedback would be helpful

[merry hollow]

Semi Citizen Soldier vibes if thats a way to explain it

Nice work!

[mortal kindle]

true, i tried to go for the Bryce Savage channel type style

[merry hollow]

I see

[mortal kindle]

it didnt come out that way though..

[charred steppe]

@merry hollow LAZER

HELP

its borken

😭

[velvet notch]

YOU KNOW THEM!?

[merry hollow]

Wdym

[merry hollow]

Yeah? Mentioned it quite a few times

[velvet notch]

Lmfaooo

What's your favorite song?

[merry hollow]

Fever or Face To Face probably, hbu?

[velvet notch]

Afterlife, My Own Miracle, Everybody Hates You, and Limit. Maybe Live Again too.

In general their newest album (Icarus) is banger after banger

[merry hollow]

I see

Haven't heard their newest stuff

Kind of just a few songs that I can go back to

[velvet notch]

Also forgot about Thank You for Hating Me
Resisted with all my might sending that song to a person I hated back in the day xD

[merry hollow]

Lol that one's a good one too

[charred steppe]

It’s broken

The automation thing

I basically copied everything over

[merry hollow]

Did you check if the mix level was different?

[charred steppe]

Yeah

Everything was the same

Crazy

98 plugins

[merry hollow]

Nah thats decent

[charred steppe]

Omfg everytime I share a screen recording of my fl

Everyone starts exploding

And asks me why I’m using light mode

[merry hollow]

Valid reaction

[charred steppe]

I disagree 💔

Let us have freedom

[merry hollow]

Haha n o

[merry hollow]

Xd

[keen parcel]

People be like in 2050 when VR becomes daily life

[charred steppe]

@merry hollow thoughts

[merry hollow]

Bit different but works rhythmically, I'd suggest adding a few bits and pieces of the drop to the start of the fifth bar of the buildup

[charred steppe]

its a remix

its meant to be different

:p

[merry hollow]

True, but I meant musically

[merry hollow]

Can't listen to it rn unfortunately

[charred steppe]

huh

[charred steppe]

owhh nvm

do you know how to make it sound better

kind of

[merry hollow]

The flute sounds so out of place

I can't mix it well xd

Need to change that perc too

[merry hollow]

I think I have a pretty decent idea for a Neurofunk track

The problem is

I'm trying to find a text to speech service that can give kind of like a low quality news broadcast/interview voice/vibe

And I cannot find any that come even remotely close

[charred steppe]

hmm kind of

[merry hollow]

Fixed it for the most part

[charred steppe]

oo awesome

i made a color kick

another one

OWH AND

[merry hollow]

Nice!

[charred steppe]

i grew by 6 subs

[merry hollow]

Congratulations!

[charred steppe]

tyy

[merry hollow]

Here it is now, not proud of the entire drop but I'll work on it if I get the inspiration

[charred steppe]

your laptop is dying

nice thoughhh

[merry hollow]

Yes I know xd, having like 8 vitals and 2 serums will do that to you

[merry hollow]

Thank youuuu

[charred steppe]

yep

haha

[charred steppe]

ywww

[merry hollow]

Lol

Vital is great as a free serum alternative but like- man is it heavy on the cpu usage xd

[charred steppe]

yeahh

cant do everything for free you know

[charred steppe]

170 mb

wtff

[alpine yew]

Lol

[charred steppe]

i have 3 weeks left

im not even done with the 1st drop 😭

[alpine yew]

3 weeks for what?

[charred steppe]

to finish it

its a remix competition

[alpine yew]

Oooo

[charred steppe]

yeahh

knowing myself

ill probably end up near the last place

[alpine yew]

Nah dont say that

[charred steppe]

it will happen 😭

[alpine yew]

Ull prob end up worse /j

Honestly, u might end up in the middle, like top half

This is pretty good

[charred steppe]

real

[charred steppe]

nooo never

https://youtu.be/zkukViw72xo?si=OTgy6RdiN6iR_WYw

this is the original

[alpine yew]

Gotta atleast try

[charred steppe]

the owner of the server itself (hexa vibes) doesnt like hardstyle

[charred steppe]

mhm i know

[alpine yew]

Hmmm

[static magnet]

who does

[charred steppe]

I really have to find new communities /hj

[merry hollow]

Finally made a template to start my songs out with @charred steppe

[charred steppe]

ooo awesome

[merry hollow]

Yessss

Still have a few ideas for the remix contest

Just not getting any ideas for a full track though

[static magnet]

charge ur laptop

[charred steppe]

i have an idea for my 2nd drop lmfao

owh also that hexa saying that

he says it a loit

[static magnet]

hmm voice still sounds weird

maybe more like

in the background

idk

something something sound

[charred steppe]

I’m still working on it dww

[static magnet]

okok

[merry hollow]

I did later xd

[merry hollow]

This is why we hate you xd

[velvet notch]

No, just you

[charred steppe]

Whyy

[static magnet]

wtf no

of you hate family I hate you

[merry hollow]

Y'all I wasn't being serious- :/

Sorry if it came across as rude though

[velvet notch]

I'ma be honest, if you would start insulting me to the ground, I couldn't take you seriously, let alone interpret it as rude lmfao

[merry hollow]

Lmao

[charred steppe]

Nono it’s fine dw

[merry hollow]

Alright

[charred steppe]

@merry hollow

beep boop

[merry hollow]

Nice

[rugged iris]

check this little thing i made.
it's not a full track

[edgy wharf]

epic

[charred steppe]

thingies

[rugged iris]

This is pretty good, it's like a mix of hardstyle, dubstep and future bass.

[edgy wharf]

Fr

[rugged iris]

I just noticed something.
Why is your Fl white?

[charred steppe]

Because I like it that way

[charred steppe]

It’s hitech 😭

[charred steppe]

And I don’t really mind it being white either

I only produce during the day

😭

[cerulean pike]

I wonder what y'all think about this

[rugged iris]

Damn.

[rugged iris]

oh, i didn't know that heehheheh.

[rugged iris]

it's okay, i won't judge

[rugged iris]

Goob 👍

little too long, imo

[rugged iris]

little improvements on the drop

[cerulean pike]

I just got into habit of making 4 minute tracks
dunno why but they always come out like that

Guess there's nothing I could do to make it more engaging without altering the idea too much?

[charred steppe]

I feel extra judged now

[cerulean pike]

Most people find abundance of white color tiring

Also tf is going on at the top of ur screen 😭😭😭

[cerulean pike]

Wait I only heard it just now

U got clipping there

[charred steppe]

It’s my pc struggling to record and play fl studio at the same time 😭

I probably had some other background thingies open

[charred steppe]

Minimeters

It looks fun

[cerulean pike]

The DB meter is all red tho

Also how tf did u get it to -4 LUFS

[charred steppe]

All of my projects are all red without clipping 😭

[charred steppe]

Uhm

Yes

[cerulean pike]

why

just

why

[charred steppe]

Idkk

I’m just that good (I’m not)

[cerulean pike]

Sounds pretty good

Though bass could use a little more presence I think?

[cerulean pike]

Target level for most platforms is -14 anyways

[charred steppe]

I can only do 2 minutes for most of my thingies

And making another minute is Atleast a month of work for me

[cerulean pike]

And whenever you try to push it higher you generally sacrifice the dynamics of ur track

[charred steppe]

I see

Idkk I just sometimes think that my stuff is too quiet

I want to try bringing my stuff to -10

[cerulean pike]

I usually aim for something -11 to -7

after that pushing it higher makes it worse

[charred steppe]

I see I see

I should probably look at other songs

[cerulean pike]

Just increase gain in the limiter until you notice it sounds bad lol

[charred steppe]

😭

Fair enough

Stock Multiband compression and Maximus do the job too I guess

[cerulean pike]

Yeah but I'd recommen stock Fruity Limiter

everything else has too many features and buttons I don't use lol

[charred steppe]

Fair fair

Is that basically slapping chroma onto it

And Eqing the lower frequencies out

[cerulean pike]

the hell is that bruh

[charred steppe]

Botanica is a music genre

Botanify is a weird patch thingy I found on insta

[cerulean pike]

Oh I see I see

[charred steppe]

https://youtu.be/E2IvzsR7i1M?si=a6WlqZqyumxCCNoi

[cerulean pike]

btw even when you don't seem to have clipping in your track you should still leave 1 db headroom AFTER limiting to account for compression and file conversion artifacts

[cerulean pike]

Added minor changes, EQ, resonance suppression and maximized (the loudest part is at around -6.8 LUFS)

[cerulean pike]

6 minutes 😭😭😭

[rugged iris]

yeah, iknow.

[rugged iris]

no, no i swear i am not judging 😂

[rugged iris]

start using reference track, chose a track similar to your song and try to follow the same pattern.

or go to yt

[cerulean pike]

I don't think I've ever heard something similar?

[rugged iris]

yeah, i need more low end.
tnx for feedback 😉

[rugged iris]

thing is, that you should do that before you start.

[cerulean pike]

Doesn't work like that tho

I make music when I'm in the mood and I hate all the preparations and stuff

[rugged iris]

i actually don't know i keep making music when i hate doing that lol.
I think i was trying to impress a girl

or something

[cerulean pike]

💀💀💀

[rugged iris]

lmao

[cerulean pike]

If you hate making music you might be doing it wrong lol

I mean, every time some pro producer tells me to do things certain way or use a certain plugin I feel like I won't be doing that because it just doesn't have the right vibe

[rugged iris]

it's just instead of learning easy genres, i went for Future Bass which most people say it's the hardest genre to produce.

and i hate the process

just to make an 8bar drop is a nightmare, even though i got so much better.
i wish could've shown you my first tracks, they were horrible hehehe.

[cerulean pike]

💀

I actually have my first tracks I made 2 years ago

Comparing them to what I can do now is crazy

[rugged iris]

well it keeps getting better.

[cerulean pike]

I never really bothered with all this "genre" stuff

I just make whatever I feel sounds cool y'know?

[rugged iris]

it's important to know the genre to know what you're making

[cerulean pike]

I'm totally clueless

[rugged iris]

well youtube can explain everything. i'm only human.

[cerulean pike]

I mean, whenever I'm making it I have a pretty clear idea of what I want but I never take into account the genre canons

Like, I could make a song with thick guitars and you'd think it's something rock-like but then it has an EDM drop at the end

[rugged iris]

everything you make could have a name, you could even invent a new genre.
like Future Bass is a mash between MeloDubstep and Trap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTUDKu3BL7c&pp=ygUNZWRtIGV4cGxhaW5lZA%3D%3D

[rugged iris]

huh?

[cerulean pike]

Fourier transform

The thing that stopped underground nuke testing and the thing that equalizers and other frequency spectrums do to actually show you what the sound is made of

[cerulean pike]

did this in under 2 hours

[charred steppe]

@merry hollow piano

[cerulean pike]

piano

🎹

[charred steppe]

Piano indeed

God I need to think of a melody for it now

I suck at those

😭

[cerulean pike]

Just slam random keys and hope it works

my best piano part looks like this

but it's for edm

actually depends on what you want

[charred steppe]

hmm idk im trying to go for something like this

[cerulean pike]

Does the second one even have piano in it?

[charred steppe]

i mean somewhere

[cerulean pike]

I can't hear it

For the first one it's easy though

[charred steppe]

this melody perhaps

[charred steppe]

yeahh

[cerulean pike]

first note is the root note of the chord (or you could do the perfect fifth for funny) and the second you could go a full tone down if the chord is minor or onto any chord note you like

going down would give you a seventh chord

which sounds pretty cool I do it a lot

[charred steppe]

i did something like this

no idea what it is

i just kind of played around

d# minor pentatonic 😭

and 184 bpm for he funsies

[cerulean pike]

first chord is B7sus4add6

[charred steppe]

makes total sense

[cerulean pike]

I mean, understanding this notation isn't hard if you've got the fundamentals of music theory down

[charred steppe]

i mean

i understand that there are keys

and thats about it

owh and you can mix minor with major

[cerulean pike]

ohh look what I found

[charred steppe]

😭

whats that

[cerulean pike]

Erm uh

I think I did 4:1 swing there or something like that

[charred steppe]

i see i see

[cerulean pike]

the way it sounds though uhh

from 1:26

[charred steppe]

yeahh i mean

idk

[cerulean pike]

Oh wait I think it's not swing it's more like

3/4 signature

and then 2:1 swing

I have no idea how I thought of that bruh

[charred steppe]

thats me everythime i do something in fl 😭

mm mixer tracks

[cerulean pike]

things could be worse

let me show you my braindead effects chain if I find one

[charred steppe]

😭

[cerulean pike]

kick processing

[charred steppe]

damn thats crazy

the whole mixer track for my remix 😭

[cerulean pike]

Damn that's a lot

[charred steppe]

and the project itself is pretty big too

[charred steppe]

ikr

[cerulean pike]

I wonder how many tracks I have active in the biggest project

which would be my sycno remix I suppose?

💀💀💀

[charred steppe]

😭

imagine

[cerulean pike]

alright it's a me problem

Should be fixed now

24 tracks

7 of which are drums

and 5 are reference stems

[charred steppe]

FL 25 is giving us 500 mixer tracks

im going to find a way to fill them

with a 5 minute song

[cerulean pike]

I still use FL 21 cuz erm...

Should we say I didn't buy it?

And getting a new version with all the workarounds is a pain

[charred steppe]

owh dw i did the same with most of my plugins too

[cerulean pike]

Speaking of plugins

[charred steppe]

except serum and FL itself

[cerulean pike]

fabfilter stuff absolutely loves to crash FL Studio

[charred steppe]

😭

[cerulean pike]

I got like

[charred steppe]

it works normally for me

[cerulean pike]

3 crashes from C-2 in an hour

[charred steppe]

damn i see

[cerulean pike]

maybe it's because I've got an old version

[charred steppe]

i only use pro q 4

[cerulean pike]

yeah that one works fine

[charred steppe]

or cpu

[cerulean pike]

but you should also get used to L-2

[cerulean pike]

My rig is like

the opposite of up-to-date

[charred steppe]

i have 4600 in my laptop

and 9700x in my pc

which i use for music and stuff

[charred steppe]

😭

fair

[cerulean pike]

6 gb gtx 1060 😭😭😭

Splitgate 2 is totally playable though

[charred steppe]

i only have integrated graphics for now

[cerulean pike]

I guess you don't need gpu for making music

[charred steppe]

i do for blender and after effects

[cerulean pike]

Oh yeah, blender

I had to make a cover for one of my releases

spent literally 5 hours or maybe more making a physically accurate black hole

[charred steppe]

😭

i reused one of my old models for the remix

[cerulean pike]

looks nice

[charred steppe]

and used after effects for the blue outline

photoshop*

[charred steppe]

tyty

[cerulean pike]

the final version of the black hole looks like this

[charred steppe]

ooo i see

[cerulean pike]

There were also prior renders that didn't do the job but they still look somewhat interesting imo

[charred steppe]

thingies for the video & cover art

[cerulean pike]

But yeah the point is I spent more time on the cover than on the track itself

[charred steppe]

oppisite for me 😭

i spent 80 hours on the track iirc

[cerulean pike]

💀💀💀

[cerulean pike]

quite literally

[charred steppe]

yeahh

but i mean im putting everything i know into it

to make it sound good

even some sound design im doing myself 😭

[cerulean pike]

I just plug in the guitar and uh

https://tenor.com/view/mrbeast-patting-tummy-stomach-patting-stomach-full-gif-27423087

Though not all my tracks have guitar in it but sometimes I take a riff I made up on guitar and adapt it for synth

[charred steppe]

i see i see

i do everything in my daw 😭

i plan on picking up a midi controller to learn music theory

and stuff

[cerulean pike]

For example the quick synth after the intro sequence here

after the riser

[cerulean pike]

Good idea I think

[charred steppe]

nice nice

[charred steppe]

i guess

[cerulean pike]

Initially it sounded like this

[charred steppe]

oo i see thats nice

[merry hollow]

Even the trial one lmao, it just loves to crash anything

[charred steppe]

real

[cerulean pike]

Also takes up more RAM than native FL plugins

[merry hollow]

Is there gonna be any low end or more atmospheric stuff?

[merry hollow]

Lol, same with vital tbh, I love it, but man does it take up a whole lot of cpu

[cerulean pike]

😭😭😭 I tried using Ozone 11 and it took up like 1 gig on it's own

[merry hollow]

Lmao

I remember I got one izotope/ozone plugin for free but I forgot which one

I know there's a free one

It was Ozone 11 EQ I think

[cerulean pike]

All of them are free if you know where to look

[charred steppe]

yep

there will

this is a rough idea

[cerulean pike]

They do suck though

[charred steppe]

lovely fx chain

[merry hollow]

Not in that way xd, if you go to Izotope's site, Ozone 11 EQ, Ozone 11 Imager, and Trash Lite are all really good, I'm sure the other ones are too but I don't have any so idk

[merry hollow]

Got it, nice work so far

[cerulean pike]

https://tenor.com/view/pc-fire-gif-18709628

This is what would happen if I tried it ngl

[charred steppe]

tyty

[merry hollow]

Just a second let me put on my chain for a sound

It needed a second mixer track just to be finished xd

[charred steppe]

😭

[cerulean pike]

Use Patche-

[merry hollow]

And its for one specific sound too xd

[cerulean pike]

Actually don't I got yelled at for doing that

[merry hollow]

Fair but n o xd

[cerulean pike]

💀💀💀

[merry hollow]

Lmao

[cerulean pike]

also this abomination

[cerulean pike]

fr tho that's a lot of effects

[charred steppe]

mm not really

[charred steppe]

oo also lazer

did you know that the current thingy

next to master

also works

withfx

[merry hollow]

Yeah ofc

Also it took me so long to find my hard drive lmao

Anyhow

[charred steppe]

😭

[merry hollow]

Time to find that mixer preset which I stored

Which I totally know where it is xd

[cerulean pike]

You store mixer presets 🥵🥵🥵

[merry hollow]

Yes, because there's specific sounds I like to add which need perfection for me xd

Like

The Classic Screecher

[cerulean pike]

Can't you just render it and use the rendered sample instead?

[merry hollow]

It uses SERUM LFO's so

I need to be able to control them

[merry hollow]

So no

[charred steppe]

@merry hollow aa

[merry hollow]

Nice, bass is a bit on the louder side though, like the sub drop

And be careful of how long your risers go for

Too long and it could ruin the rhythm

[charred steppe]

oo alr i see

tyty

[merry hollow]

Ofc

[cerulean pike]

I thought that maybe we could hop into a vc and produce music on stream or smth

not right now but in general

[charred steppe]

maybe someday yeah

[cerulean pike]

I'm on a summer break now so I can do it anytime I'm awake basically

[charred steppe]

i have one more week and ill technically be free

[cerulean pike]

👌

Guess I'll come up with a beat or two by that time

[charred steppe]

i kind of want to continue this i guess

[cerulean pike]

I don't see any reason not to

[charred steppe]

the only thing stopping me is motivation and ideas

[cerulean pike]

Guess you could solve the motivation issue by simplifying writing music

[charred steppe]

yeahh

[cerulean pike]

imo you're making too many extra moves with all these SFX, samples and effects chains

though I admit I'm not sure if you could achieve desired results in a simpler way

[charred steppe]

just a piano is pretty boring

[cerulean pike]

but generally you should make the general structure of the song while you have the motivation and then do all the little details later

[charred steppe]

the ambience adds a little high end and fullness

[cerulean pike]

At least that's what I heard on the internet

[charred steppe]

along with the sprinkles and what not

[charred steppe]

i like to spend more time on a part and move on to the next one once its ready

[cerulean pike]

You know what I do in such situations?

[charred steppe]

and i never really start with the drop

[cerulean pike]

AdD WHiTe NOisE

[charred steppe]

white noise

[cerulean pike]

💀

[charred steppe]

hmm i imean

that is an option

but hi hats & percs do the same

[cerulean pike]

also for sparkling effects I like to use any synth of choice with a lot of valhalla supermassive

[charred steppe]

i use vinyl thingies

nature sounds

and

sometimes voices

[cerulean pike]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[charred steppe]

i just kind of idk

i have no idea what i did to them

but

let me actually

owh

awesome

and kind of pitched down again

[cerulean pike]

My fruity loops folder takes up only 34 gigs
including all the plugins, samples, recordings and projects

[charred steppe]

and stretched out

[cerulean pike]

Is it supposed to have these odd artifacts?

[charred steppe]

most likely yeah

sounds like it got sampled out of a song

[cerulean pike]

cut out with AI maybe

[charred steppe]

i mean its a good way to get vocals

[cerulean pike]

and potentially get sued

[charred steppe]

😭

nobody will know

trust

[merry hollow]

Tbh I do wanna get back into music production too, just don't have any complete ideas

[cerulean pike]

Most platforms use content recognition services that could potentially flag them automatically if you don't distort them enough

[cerulean pike]

Do you need any?

I get ideas on what to mold the track into only when I'm deep in the making already

[merry hollow]

This is something I did a while ago, couldn't do much more with it though, I have no ideas on how to get to this point and how to go deeper

The tag is temporary dw xd

It needs work

[cerulean pike]

Usually it all starts with a random sequence that I build the track around

like here

you could probably tell that I first came up with the bassline and sort of just mindlessly repeated it

[merry hollow]

Not really

[charred steppe]

i would love to someday make something like this https://youtu.be/YDpMsOCoGiI?si=QUHikuz3NbJvuKVz

[cerulean pike]

but that's basically what happened

[merry hollow]

I see

[cerulean pike]

I just sort of opened up FL and came up with this in 2 hours

[merry hollow]

Fair enough

I can get like a few ideas here and there

[charred steppe]

crazy

[merry hollow]

But can't translate them into entire songs these days

[merry hollow]

What is?

[cerulean pike]

Do more random braindead note scattering

that's how I write my melodies

I even used to record improvized guitar solos this way

[charred steppe]

idkk its just kind of

crazy to me

[merry hollow]

I sent a vid above, I have way too much stuff already, all it needs is percs and stuff but I'm wondering how do I start the song out, how do I end it, how do I make it into a drop

[merry hollow]

Alr ig xd

[cerulean pike]

bro you didn't even make drums

[merry hollow]

Yeah because I can't think of a drop idea

[cerulean pike]

Unfortunately music that I like listening to and music that I make are two completely separate categories
Not that I don't like whatever I make but I've noticed that when I try to make things like my favorite artists it turns out terribly hard, unpleasant and it just sounds bad

😔

[merry hollow]

Fair enough

That's why I just don't get into genres I don't listen to

I don't listen to a lot of Dubstep these days, so why make it? I'm listening to EDM Trap and Bass House, let me make those

[cerulean pike]

I listen to Deco*27 but I'm afraid of even attempting to make something similar

[merry hollow]

What genre exactly?

[cerulean pike]

I usually just do a lot of space and a (preferably) catchy melody

[merry hollow]

145 bpm and I have to stay soothing/melodic, I'm not good at this lmao

[cerulean pike]

Ehh let me find an example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFRPeiAEO0M

this

[cerulean pike]

double timing?

[merry hollow]

Yeah I have no idea about the genre unfortunately-

[merry hollow]

Double timing what?

[cerulean pike]

or do the dotted-dotted-regular note pattern

[cerulean pike]

Make your melody half the tempo of the percussion and everything else

[merry hollow]

See that's not the issue-

The issue is mainly doing melodic stuff at this sort of bpm and keeping it in the style of the genre

[cerulean pike]

Oh right you have to stick to a genre

well then I can't help you in any way

[merry hollow]

I think I did some changes since then, let me re-open the flp just a second

Its alright nw

Wow its taking some time to load in xd

[cerulean pike]

it took up 3 gigs of ur ram tf ur talking about

[merry hollow]

What?

[cerulean pike]

in this video the project is taking up 3.5 gigs of ur ram

[merry hollow]

Oh lmao

Yeah lol

[charred steppe]

I just kind of try to work up to it

[cerulean pike]

😭😭😭 how do y'all manage to spend so much time on your projects

[charred steppe]

I want to get into the Japanese edm/DTM scene

Used loops here but this is fun to make

[cerulean pike]

You sent this on Vance's server

[merry hollow]

Idk lmao

[charred steppe]

That’s possible

[charred steppe]

Idk it’s normal for me

[cerulean pike]

alright maybe I'm not that far off

this is my best release (in terms of views on youtube)

[merry hollow]

I've spent probably days on a few projects total but that was before I bought fl so rip those xd

[cerulean pike]

oh also you know what's crazy about it

the mid-high part is FL Keys only

well except for guitars in the end

[merry hollow]

Lol

Piano plugins with fx can actually be insane

[cerulean pike]

also it's only 14 tracks

[charred steppe]

let me load in my bigget project rq

[cerulean pike]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-trollface-sad-troll-gif-21649584

[merry hollow]

Interesting

[charred steppe]

😭

my goal is to spend 200 hours on a project

i think that its going to happen this year even

[cerulean pike]

it literally got 10-20x more views than my other releases get

[cerulean pike]

for what?

[charred steppe]

for like 50 views

[cerulean pike]

amazing

truly

[charred steppe]

very

[cerulean pike]

wonderful

I'm not far off tho

[charred steppe]

4x more views 😭

[cerulean pike]

my latest 2 releases are 78 and 35 respectively

[charred steppe]

i have 4 songs released :D

[merry hollow]

Understandable tbh, it happens sometimes

[cerulean pike]

I have 9x more uploads on youtube

💀💀💀

But I hid most of them yesterday because they're genuinely bad

[charred steppe]

counting my other uploads

[cerulean pike]

only the latest 11 ones are actual music

[charred steppe]

7

[cerulean pike]

💀💀💀

[charred steppe]

might take wip 3 down since its pretty cringey 😭

[charred steppe]

and i hate how my collabs turned out

[merry hollow]

Oh I made an entire song and forgot about it lmao

I'm exporting it real quick cuz its too laggy for me to listen to in the daw

[cerulean pike]

rate the time spread though
3 days ago - 3 weeks ago - 4 weeks ago - 5 months ago - 7 months ago - 9 months ago - 10 months ago - 10 months agou - 10 months ago - 1 year ago - 1 year ago

[cerulean pike]

happens

[merry hollow]

Dude my last track was over a year ago xd

[charred steppe]

i can post 1 track every month

[charred steppe]

not sure if ill be able to post one this month though

owh wait i could

i collabed with someone

😭

[cerulean pike]

out of my the tracks I took down though

I posted two tracks in one day twice

[charred steppe]

damn

thats crazy

[cerulean pike]

the reason for that is I had faulty internet at the time and it could disappear for days

and I wasn't at home

so I hat nothing else to do but make music

[charred steppe]

fair fair

[cerulean pike]

I think my headphones are not suited for reproducing such sounds

[charred steppe]

😭

[cerulean pike]

Even though they're made for monitoring

[cerulean pike]

Yamaha HPH-MT5

Good headphones tho I love them

[charred steppe]

i see i see

[cerulean pike]

[charred steppe]

my monitor speakers hate it

[cerulean pike]

look what I did to a violin

[charred steppe]

crazy

[cerulean pike]

There was this time when I just threw fuzz onto every instrument imaginable

[charred steppe]

😭

[cerulean pike]

Oh also did I mention I have tabs?

[charred steppe]

tabs?? 😭

[cerulean pike]

for guitar

[charred steppe]

oowh

[cerulean pike]

They're quite similar to classical notation except they're slightly different

so uhm I have this

[charred steppe]

yeah i have no idea what that says

[cerulean pike]

The thing you need to know is that there are two beats that are made entirely out of triplets

[charred steppe]

this looks like one of them

[cerulean pike]

This is one triplet followed by two eights and two eighth pauses

which make up a quarter break basically

[charred steppe]

fair

[cerulean pike]

Also I have this which is a tab render

which I'll never play most likely

[charred steppe]

sounds fun

[cerulean pike]

Yeah I like the blues scale but I use it very rarely

[charred steppe]

i should try more cales

i only did stuff in minor

[cerulean pike]

tbh I don't think I could do something in a major scale or any of those fancy modes

[merry hollow]

This isn't the complete song because I couldn't edit the first drop onwards because of lag xd

[merry hollow]

I can't do anything in any major scale lmao

But minor scales? All for it

Especially Phrygian Dominant

[charred steppe]

felt

[cerulean pike]

I tried to experiment with scales

and got this

[cerulean pike]

I feel like the kick kicks too much

hold on maybe I have something in the major scale

[merry hollow]

Fair lmao

I used to make drill so I'm still used to making my kicks sound like k i c k s

[cerulean pike]

omg in fact I do

[cerulean pike]

like someone is actually kicking your ears you mean?

[merry hollow]

Try doing something in Phrygian Dominant sometime, best scale ever istg

[merry hollow]

Uhh I'll show you if I can find a vid just a sec xd

[cerulean pike]

It's one of the earlier works so it sounds like shit but it's clearly major

C major in fact

[merry hollow]

@cerulean pike

[cerulean pike]

Almost bearable

[merry hollow]

XD

[merry hollow]

Still something lol dw

[cerulean pike]

I mean, the loudest my kick gets is this

Also I might've stolen the kick pattern from Best of Me but I really don't remember at this point

[merry hollow]

Loud kicks @cerulean pike

[merry hollow]

Lmao all good

And this too, loud kicks xd

[cerulean pike]

Bro I hear such shit out the window from time to time ||(I'm Ukrainian)||

💀💀💀

[merry hollow]

What?-

[cerulean pike]

💥💥

[merry hollow]

Oh-

[cerulean pike]

Damn guess I ran outta beats

Have to actually make some new ones

that's crazy

[cerulean pike]

I found one of my old arrangements and finally cut vocals for it
Wonder what y'all think

[cerulean pike]

@merry hollow I speedran that shit

[merry hollow]

Lmao

How

I take more time than that to make one sound xd

[cerulean pike]

I just add shit that comes to mind first

[merry hollow]

Yeah but what if nothing comes to your mind

Xd

[cerulean pike]

Like when I was writing second part of the verse I thought "hmm I want a left-panned violin here"

that's so oddly specific

[cerulean pike]

listen to more music

hate on more music

just so you know what you'd want to add and what you wouldn't

[cerulean pike]

use presets

[merry hollow]

I listen to like a lot of genres

[merry hollow]

I do

[cerulean pike]

I mostly work with sounds I know all too well

I mean

my bass synth preset

I've been using it for the last 5 tracks maybe?

[merry hollow]

Yeah but I can't exactly use the same bass preset every track

....

[cerulean pike]

Why not

also drums

I use the same drums cuz they sound good

[merry hollow]

Because a screech that would fit in one track won't fit in another

[cerulean pike]

Don't use screeches

[merry hollow]

There's no point in just making a song from the same sounds every single time for me

[cerulean pike]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I absolutely hate oneshot sounds

[merry hollow]

Eh, they're kind of useful as background elements

[cerulean pike]

white noise

best background element ever

[merry hollow]

Useful, but that alone won't do the trick

[cerulean pike]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-writing-blackbeard-feather-writing-heresy-gif-4408192544333034740

@merry hollow I just had this thought

how hard do you strive for a single sample in your track to sound good?

[merry hollow]

Depends on the sample

[cerulean pike]

But you don't ever have a thought like "eh, this'll do"?

[merry hollow]

Yeah some times

Again, it just depends

Most of the time I try not to repeat listening to one sound for too long, kind of get bored with it

[cerulean pike]

I just thought that you might be spending too much time perfecting every single sound rather than working on the song structure itself

[merry hollow]

Nah dw lol

I'm getting a few ideas working on a song

Call and response drop for a bass house track, just trying to think of a good response

[cerulean pike]

well it has to somehow harmonically interact with the call

especially its ending

[merry hollow]

Still working on it, and planning to change a bit of the call pattern too

Idk why I feel like I've heard it somewhere, don't wanna accidentally copy xd

[cerulean pike]

dunno

but I feel like you should add more groove to the melody

play around with note length

[merry hollow]

Yeah for sure, still a wip

[merry hollow]

Is the bass too loud

[cerulean pike]

no

[merry hollow]

Alright

[cerulean pike]

actually the melody sticks out a little too much

[merry hollow]

Will remove some of the reverb probably, maybe eq it a bit more

[cerulean pike]

I'd add some filler noise/rhythm in mid/low mid section

[merry hollow]

Alright

[cerulean pike]

I usually do it with a guitar but whatever works for you

[merry hollow]

I've been wanting to use a flute in bass house for a while now but it just

Seems kind of not bouncy at all

If that makes sense

Might try to layer it with a vocal synth

[cerulean pike]

well it does not 💀💀💀

[merry hollow]

Hard to fit the groove of the drums with it

[cerulean pike]

wanna hop in a vc?

[merry hollow]

Unless I make the drops more bland

[merry hollow]

Sure

Let me open discord as an app though

[cerulean pike]

sure sure

guess i won't be streaming this time but oh who knows

[rugged iris]

ooooh, yeah. i still don't get it.

[cerulean pike]

@merry hollow Also I don't like your hybrid trap thing, sounds way too complicated

[merry hollow]

Lmao

You don't know complicated

Till you've listened to

Neurofunk

[cerulean pike]

I mean it sounds like Tokyo Machine remix of Desperate

ain't no way I'm doing that bruh

[cerulean pike]

It's what gives you the ability to see the frequency spectrum

if we're to simplify

[rugged iris]

i think i am stupid because i still don't get it

sorry

also i have terrible news my laptop broke. so no music for a long while.

[cerulean pike]

It's how this thing on the first image is turned into this thing on the second image

[cerulean pike]

🥀

[rugged iris]

that makes sense.

[rugged iris]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

[merry hollow]

No- -_-

[cerulean pike]

That's what I heard you can't change my mind

[merry hollow]

I can and I will

Xd

[cerulean pike]

Bloop

[charred steppe]

@merry hollow @cerulean pike decided to use it for a collab with someone

[cerulean pike]

Sweet but I'd add a snare roll at the end of each 4th bar

[charred steppe]

i see i see

[cerulean pike]

Just to make it more slammable

[charred steppe]

slammable? 😭

[cerulean pike]

yeah