Add GREY Health

[lavish cedar]

Grey HEALTH should be implemented in the game. Amount of DMG received = certain amount of GREY HP received. tank shoulders = less passive grey HP REGEN percentage. flanker shoulders = higher passive grey HP REGEN percentage.

[lavish geyser]

whar

the xray brain vision scared me abit

[lavish cedar]

@grizzled crescent why is this a bad idea, it would add so much diversity

[heavy arrow]

I like it

[grizzled crescent]

Gray damage is one of the things I hate from mobile

[heavy arrow]

like imagine trying to kill a super tank or some stuff

and then they heal back to max

grey damage would still leave it weak no?

or is it not that?

[lavish cedar]

so u prefer a tank healing to back to max after 20s??

[grizzled crescent]

That's a different problem that can be fixed in other ways

[heavy arrow]

like?

[mossy elbow]

Grey hp is the hp that you can’t recover. Every point of damage you take reduces your max hp.

[heavy arrow]

it’s better than nerfing healing

instead of nerfs and all

that is a better option

[lavish cedar]

Nobody is reading my recommendation correctly, this recommendation's goal is adding GREY DAMAGE with a change to it

Each shoulder will have a different percentage of GREY HP regen

shoulders with MORE HP = diff GREY DMG REGEN

shoulders with less HP = diff GREY DMG REGEN

[heavy arrow]

so

[lavish cedar]

they will regen, but differ from each other

[heavy arrow]

let’s say an Orochi shoulder gets like 10k dmg

and a puri more than that?

wdym

regen?

[lavish cedar]

say

puri shoulder max 170k recieves like 20k DMG ----> HP: 150k now and grey HP DMG is 10k NON HEALABLE DMG done

if u stand in heals u will only be able to regen to 160k

AND

puri shoulders regen (decrease GREY DMG DONE) by 4%

[mossy elbow]

And if a 60k hp shoulder receives 20k dmg?

They take, what, 5k grey dmg?

[lavish cedar]

it can only heal up to 50k with 10k grey dmg done, BUTTTTTT it regens, HEALS grey DMG by 20%

[mossy elbow]

Oh, like passively removing grey hp? Interesting

[lavish cedar]

YES

it works perfectly

[mossy elbow]

Hmmmmmmmm

[lavish cedar]

all other shoulders like crix and other unused will be ultilized

and tank meta

thats probs a gooood fix

RLLY good without making tanks useless

and POTENTIAL to add more bots in future

====

MONEY 4 company

KILL two birds with one stone

or PROBS

[lavish cedar]

even tyr and ceres can help heal grey DMG too, BUTTTTT, also ACCOUNTING this into the code

[lavish cedar]

this too

the heal grey AMOUNT will have to be balanced or hella low

I'm not good with math, but with code and good mathematics in this, this could be a good addition

[tropic pumice]

Grey health mechanic is basically:
When you lose health, only a portion of it is able to be healed back. The other portion is lost permanently.

Its basically just another way to balance super-healers.

@lavish cedar maybe rename Grey Dmg to Grey Health

[lavish cedar]

Add GREY Health

[lavish cedar]

ogh, it's not permanently, each shoulder will have a different "Grey_Health_Regen" % percentage, of course shoulders with more than 70k will have less and those with less hp than 70k will recieve a bit more Grey health regen %

[urban charm]

So at the end ceres cant heal himself after a few times anymore ? Than i stil prefer to keep.things the same it would just destroy tanks more. I like #1451775384667295997 and #1454895350040236084 Alot more to by honest than #1463619899791249449 i find shoulders and torso's should not have more than 150k armor if its only all 150k or below. Whit a fixed nanite repair. And the fact you charge it whit no skill. Would also fix the tank Meta. But than in my eyes on a better way.

[lavish cedar]

70k doesn't have to be it, can be 68k or a shoulder thats considered a max lv flanker (max lvl of course because hp increases)

[tall kettle]

Robot heals heal grey health and normal health but nanite and the other one can only heal health

[urban charm]

Yes maybe the stil needs to fix Nanite repair aswel. And the fact you charge it whit no skill. Just taking damage. After that a maybe

[lavish cedar]

If ur using THICK AF shoulders, ur shoulders WILL regenerate LESS GREY health, while u get damaged more and more, u will die

[urban charm]

👍

[lavish cedar]

with grey health accumulated on the tank even with a nanite repair it's useless bc nanite repair can't heal grey dmg done to it

@warm marten what's ur explanation for this, it's a rlly good recommendation

[grizzled crescent]

Reworking the cycle gear charge system

[lavish cedar]

thats another thing, tanks are still an issue

u can nerf them, but they will be useless; therefore starting the cycle all over again

[heavy arrow]

after looking at this, it’s looking like passive healing, not making grey health effective.

[urban charm]

The need to fix this. And you should not have more than 150k armor on a shoulder or torso. Than you stil get many strong abbulity's yes people dont wanna chance that. But armor fix. The fact getting you gear whit no skill. Just taking damage lol. And yeah maybe i would up it later but for now. I need to sleep a night about it.

[lavish cedar]

adding this will make it that ppl will pick a wide range of bots with their advantages and disadvantages

[lavish cedar]

it looks like that, but I'm not setting it in stone that everytime u get below a certain HP thrsehold, u gain 10k grey health, no it'll all be calculated upon damage recieved

Amount of DMG recieved = certain amount of GREY HP receieved

tank shoulders = less passive grey HP REGEN percentage

flanker shoulders = higher passive grey HP REGEN percentage

THIS is the recommendation

[heavy arrow]

I mean at the beginning you had me hooked, but you just lost me when you wanted it to regen.

I think it shouldn’t regen and maintain its grey dmg

[tall kettle]

Make it simple grey healing only applies to nanite and the other thing everything else can heal normally

[heavy arrow]

it shouldn’t regen and lessen.

[heavy arrow]

or that

[lavish cedar]

trying to offer something in the middle. Some want permanent grey dmg and some are terrified and don't want it at all

I made it less scary

[heavy arrow]

or, maybe lessen the dmg and it stays perm

[lavish cedar]

that too, but making it perm, gonna make a flock of ppl disagree with this post without reading it

[neat maple]

It's called a tank for a reason

[lavish cedar]

ogh so tank meta isn't a problem rn? guess I'm crazy 🥴

they're tanks so they're doing their jobs quite nicely

[neat maple]

No you're not but adding a whole feature that benefits one style over the other is crazy they should just nerf all tank hp by like 10% and make the healing still have the same total effect but take longer by like 30%

[grizzled crescent]

No, that's what makes healing on tanks broken

[tall kettle]

Idk to me it’s just consistent nanites if they game adds grey health limitations to just the gear it will be a good step in the right direction

[woven spoke]

problem is this is a whole another feature that requires active balancing for each part

[neat maple]

Yall overthink to much

Magneto or 4 scatter fenrir do fine

[tall kettle]

Forget about parts just gear like nanite it will be applied to no other stuff

[lavish cedar]

bro forgot about the 6 stacks that activate one ceres one after another w half as griffins

https://tenor.com/view/get-a-load-of-this-guy-disney-cringe-bruhtiktok-ayeyuhaye-fed2fire-gif-20701848

[neat maple]

Every heard or norna

Or alpha grim

[lavish cedar]

of-

u won't understand, ur platinum

🤖 👆

[neat maple]

Probably better then u skil wise

[lavish cedar]

💀

whats ur username, hunting season is on

Tibooji?

[urban charm]

Of topic the should not nerf all tanks armor. That a joke. Decker torso. 110k armor i believe people cry its weak while its not weak at all. And thats Assault not tank. I find tanks should not have more than 150k armor on torso or shoulders. But even nerf the tank parts that are already below 150k makes no sense at all. Bring all parts above 150k to 150k armor. Abbility people dont want to chance keep it the same. Do #1451775384667295997 and #1454895350040236084 would fix the meta and keep tanks worthy tanks. In my opinion #1463619899791249449 but about the grey damage i am not sure if it would come. For only the gear. Than maybe.

[neat maple]

Tiboogi

[lavish cedar]

why u delete ur msg though? u thought I didn't see it? lol

[finite canopy]

this is a worse idea than nerfing nanite repair and flying bots

[neat maple]

Mis spell

[lavish cedar]

I think ur capping doe bc I never seen tibooji b4

[neat maple]

I'll be on 7pm est

[neat maple]

Had a friend who fought u if ur name is same ingame

[lavish cedar]

did he win?

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-gif-asian-guy-pfft-pfft-korean-guy-pfft-park-beom-kye-pfft-gif-8003483930663072425

[tall kettle]

So we like tank meta is what I am seeing

[tropic pumice]

Devs are running out of ways to distinguish shoulders, and soon chassis.

See anansi vs decker shoulder.

See phantom vs loki shoulders.

Its only gonna get worse. Theyll need to add more stats that can vary across shoulders if they want the new parts to be unique or meaningful.

[neat maple]

No but he dropped like 20 kills that match

[lavish cedar]

ppl wanna make em useless to some degree

[neat maple]

Then make movement the most useless if we're going of how annoying

[tall kettle]

I still think using grey health to indirectly Nerf nanite will make tanks stay tanky but not as over powered as they are rn

I don’t need anybody else to heal me most of the time when I’m in the tank nanite does all the healing for me I only stand in ceris heals to help it, not for me cause I have nanite

[lavish cedar]

The devs are struggling since it's taking this long to nerf tank meta, instead of nerfing and buffing both flankers and tanks back and forth, fix it with something that adds more potential to other shoulders, different kinds of builds in general and even the future of this game; this upcoming tank nerf might be coming and it can, but atleast this has to be pushed after clans and profiles

[tall kettle]

And I feel like it should only apply to gear tyr and ceris should heal grey damage

[grizzled crescent]

I'd be fine if this was a thing

[woven spoke]

I think grey health may eventually be a thing in the future, but I would think the idea is try to preferably WRF simple and try not to overcomplicate things like how aggressively excessive WRM has become.

I do like idea of grey health as its frustrating to almost take out a heavy bot only to see it full heal by the next minute, but grey health can be extremely confusing to newer players who never played WR mobile and depending on the approach, its a whole new system that can require probably hundreds of dev time that could be used for fixing bugs/optimizations/other features/other better stuff that covers healing from only currently 4 gears with primary healing capabilities (and 3 abilities with secondary/conditional healing)

[lavish cedar]

it can definitely be added after clan, profiles and such; for new players, that's covered we have APPM-3TR to help as well

[tall kettle]

Ya it need to be simplified like you said cuz I don’t think nanite it’s self is op it’s only op cuz of big health pools and grey hp will make it less effective on second use

[iron trellis]

Uh, i think that can stay in wwr, thx..

No need for grey heath.

[tall kettle]

One of the better ways to keep tanks tanky while being helpful to everyone else going against em this would only primarily effect tanks and nothing else

[tall kettle]

Ima start running 5 ravana nanites now so more people agree

[woven spoke]

make nanite 3% for 10s -> 2% for 15s

[iron trellis]

idk about that, id still dont want this mechanic from wwr to WRF, im good

[tall kettle]

🤔 this to make it take longer will help

And more simple to

[lavish cedar]

can't forget stack ceres heals, one runs out, get ur friend to proc his 😈

🏃‍♀️‍➡️

[warm marten]

Poop idea

[urban charm]

This would also only affect noob tank users. And no one else. I use one tank at the moment most players. Here are overthinking things. Or coming whit terrible solutions. That would only make the game mpre terrible in any way

[lapis sandal]

No

[wooden sphinx]

I don't like the idea of grey damage as tanks aren't that difficult to take down these days and weapons are already getting too powerful so I say, its not needed

[wooden sphinx]

Plus with all the parts and stuff, I think it sounds like a bad idea

[rancid valley]

I don’t know how to feel about this

[plush atlas]

i would be kinda against the idea

wouls make almost every support useless

[iron trellis]

I mean, if we have mender to counteract, then maybe.

[silk fable]

No.

[mossy elbow]

Nahhhhh. If we’re gonna take the WRM approach and introduce problems only to sell the solution later, forget about this idea altogether.

Having the grey hp naturally go down over time is actually kind of cool. Permanent grey hp? No thanks.

[lavish geyser]

shit blew up

did i missed smth

[mossy elbow]

Make it like shield regen; you have to not get hit for a certain period of time for the grey hp to start fading.

[iron trellis]

well i do want more WWR mechs

[lavish cedar]

Fr

Ppl just too scared

[unborn ravine]

That could work but I doubt the devs would go through adding an entire gameplay feature that behaves like the already existing shielding

[plush atlas]

oh now THAT is a version of it that i like

[lavish cedar]

Fr, this is what the idea is about, WILL add diversity to the game by a whole ton

[plush atlas]

yea i just thought the grey damage was permanent at first

[tall kettle]

It should be simple and only apply to healing gear and not healing bots bots healing should heal both grey and normal hp at the same time

[plush atlas]

yea that also works

but overall temporary grey hp would be great

[tall kettle]

Ya would be good there was also the idea of making nanites heal the same but at a slower rate

Heal at a slower rate

[plush atlas]

i think the overall healing could get a nerf

[woven spoke]

in WRM, grey health indicates hull integrity or unrepairable armor by conventional means. self repairing, but not actually repairing grey health just sounds like a complicated inverse shield feature for armor

[plush atlas]

i've seen that it heals more than matriarch in terms of %

[plush atlas]

that was innitially why i was against the idea at first

[tall kettle]

I fine with the amount they heal just nanite needs a lil rework

[plush atlas]

yea thats def true

[tall kettle]

Not necessarily a nerf just a prolonged healing 30% is good and mostly only used on tanks

[urban charm]

#1451775384667295997 and its stil needed not just this or grey health no. Fix Nanite repair and #1454895350040236084 and nerf all parts that have more than 150k armor from torso/shoulder. Nothing else its needed because faster bots have less armor but more shield 150k armor its stil okay players dont want to chance abbility of some bots. So the Nanite repair fix. 150k armor fix. And the useless get points for no skill taking damage. Would already fix biggest Meta problem. Because many tank users have Nanite repair and quick repair. When yeah its just noob builds in my opinion at the moment. And i see many abuse that.

..it would not make tank useless i use one tank. It would truly balance the game if the fix all this 👆

[tiny spoke]

Your reinventing the energy shield

[warm marten]

No more upvotes 🔥 🔥

[lavish cedar]

gets more upvotes after that msg

[warm marten]

When i sent that it was at ten, when i look back it is still at 10

[lavish cedar]

ogh no, talking abt the future

s

[iron trellis]

come guys! we need 9 more UP!

https://tenor.com/view/come-on-ethereum-bitcoin-web3-crypto-gif-27338391

[woven tulip]

Whuh

(also, absolutely not lmao)

[iron trellis]

11 more UP! come one guys ,we can do it!, we need grey health!

[lavish cedar]

Lmao, yall scared as hell

[urban charm]

Lol you want 170k armor stays 170k stil fix nothing at the end

[urban charm]

No shoulders/torso's should have more than 150k armor to start whit. Its not destroying anything tanks wil stil by good. You only need a littlebit more skill. And it would stil by easy to play whit it. Also for players whit not much skill.

[urban charm]

..whit grey damage added you wil stil face 3 stacks tank users whit the health gear. The fill up there armor a bit. And the would have one ceres for example. To fill them up to last piece of armor to 170k joke armor lol.

[lavish cedar]

What in the English is this

[urban charm]

Nothing else you can say because you know i am right. But i think your one of the noob tank users anyway your a toxic clown 🤡💩🤡

[lavish cedar]

no it's just that English is not ur first language so it's hard as hell to read what ur trying to say, lol

I think you misread my recommendation judging what ur trying to say so I'll leave it at that 💀

[tiny spoke]

Me personally I couldn't imagine getting offended by criticism

Unc

[neat maple]

I could clearly understand what this guy or girl is saying maybe the both of you 2 didn't pay attention in English class or forget it by being on the internet all day everyday but I agree with what they are saying

[lavish cedar]

wise of you to say maybe, how about you trying repeating what he said in proper English, lmao

[iron trellis]

13 more UP!, come on guys! lets gooooo!!!!

[urban charm]

Normal people know what i mean. I hope you know it aswel. Otherwise your very dumb. You cant win the conversation. Thats why you start talking about my english. What have nothing to do whit this post. But its common guys like you on discord. Thinking the are it lol. Grey damage wont come. Have a nice day 🤡

[urban charm]

And funny your pointing at yourself lol. Have a nice day aswel 🤡

[lavish cedar]

What the heck 💀

Crazy as hell furry

[tiny spoke]

He blocked me lmao

Gg ez

But anyways You want to add permanent damage to the game just like in the mobile app version

Hmmm

[lavish cedar]

Not rlly permanent, just temporary

Hence "Grey Health"

[tiny spoke]

Well I was thinking that maybe the gray is permanent unless a teammate repairs you

To encourage more team-oriented cooperation

But it's probably taking away too much power from the actual player

[lavish cedar]

Mmm, I still think grey health that heals over time depending on the %grey health reduction rate on the shoulder which all of them would be different values to implement more variety in builds would be better for the future

[tiny spoke]

So it would just be another former shield but for armor

[lavish cedar]

Their heal rate would be very low though

Not a shield bc it not protecting anything

It's passive regeneration

Depicted by shoulder grey health heal rate %

[tiny spoke]

I don't know about passive region we already have a really bad healing problem

[lavish cedar]

It's not healing health in general if ur getting confused Abt that

[tiny spoke]

It's like a base amount that your body would heal back up to

[lavish cedar]

✔️

[tiny spoke]

So if you had a shoulder only healed up to like 10% of its maximum HP and you fell below that 10% it would heal up to that 10%

[lavish cedar]

Correcto

[tiny spoke]

I feel like that would just add another thing for you have to spend more money on scrap to actually upgrade your shoulders to a good percentage

It would add another level of complexity to balancing and we already know they struggle with that

[lavish cedar]

Good for future variety builds, bad for game devs

[tiny spoke]

I don't know it just feel like it adds too much

Just more opportunities for stuff to be broken

[lavish cedar]

It's not that hard to understand rlly, just needs competent devs, but these ones lack that and the efficiency

[tiny spoke]

I like the idea but I don't think it fits in very well unless it's like a pilot ability like Spirit of the team and it keeps your robots HP above 5% armor if you're next to like two other people

They would be a great support pilot

It's an interesting idea but I doubt you're going to get enough people to be behind it

[lavish cedar]

Maybe, but builds in the future, they're gonna lack variety bc of similar stats and some are gonna be better than the other no matter what, unless they get nerfed to the ground like ares shoulder

[tiny spoke]

Maybe

[lavish cedar]

Sadly true 😞

[iron trellis]

just need 13 more UP! come on people, lets go!!!!

[silk fable]

No.

[iron trellis]

yes!

🙂

[silk fable]

No.

[iron trellis]

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[silk fable]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-persona-persona-4-adachi-dojima-gif-5132517449783893150

[neat maple]

Basically what he is saying is that it's useless and has no purpose to be added but rather to slightly lower total health

[iron trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-no-chill-out-bro-nah-fam-gif-16233135

[silk fable]

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[iron trellis]

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[silk fable]

https://tenor.com/view/minato-arisato-minato-persona3-p3-persona-gif-16211089

[meager finch]

If this was added, make sure tanks have MORE Grey Damage than flankers, because tacticians and flankers have so much less HP. So by each class, there shpuld be a % of grey damage

[tiny spoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1412646246274957464/1460762375333482516/RDT_20260113_0029153581343652492637153.gif

[meager finch]

This aint a good thing doe. Bad hex, but then again...

They call him hex

[lavish cedar]

thats an additional goalll

https://tenor.com/view/zhot-5-star-perfect-rating-five-stars-review-glowing-feedback-amazing-reaction-gif-18083283431593619153

[tiny spoke]

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