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rough glacier
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So, you release a bp every month (or less), price :200 , for 1 bot, it's equipment, resources, extra weapons.

Then , a sudden pass happens to have 2 bots in it, the same amount of pages eh ? But 2 bots : you double the price.
Why not eh ?

Now event pass: half the pages, no bot, half the time, but somehow, it'd 200 too???

I swear the greed is real, apart from this, your game is a cluster of bugs: the game is fun, but you implement bugs often, and somehow call it bug, but 2-3 months to fix almost feel like it was on purpose.

Let's not forget that it's a pain to fill a lobby with player, usually each match have a few bots although you joined 3 leagues together

You have two maps in testing for 3 months too ???

But we got a new robot every 2 weeks, and now this "event pass"... This got to be a joke, or u want to kill your game through greed.

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Content is really not what you should worry about...

spiral violet
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I tend to agree with you on that.
a game can be milked once all the base feature that are made to attract and retain player are in place like enough maps, diversity of game mechanics.
the fix of all the major and recurring bugs
what's more I would think that a team base game is not sustainable without a social feature (ie clans) but there is no news in that domaine not even on the player profile that has been discussed.
I also find that the matchmaking is still not on point despite the bandage they did with the team limiting solution.
Once they have all that fixed they could concentrate on money making features but the devs do it the other way around concentrating on money making feature and using the spare time to fix the core game from my perspective at least

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and for thoses who thinks well new bots are from a different department, actually it is all from the same money pool so you could redirect the money and staffing from one sector to another even if it might not just be the same persone on the two different tasks

turbid swallow
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Your paying to get the hero pilot for cheaper with like abiut 300 warpreals worth of zenids, and some resourced and cosmetics. Id say your getting your money worth.

But do complain again when the next battle pass arrives, since its gonna have decker and crix it, for cheaper then buying early access, with some bomus cosmetics that would look sick, just like last time with cered and anasi.

rough glacier
turbid swallow
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Wr mobile ? As in walking war robots? The pc and mobile game? Atleast this one aint diving to how that game had fallen.

rough glacier
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Not caring about bug fixes, matchmaking problems and much more, just throwing new content.

turbid swallow
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well so long as the greed doesnt get to how it is in the first game, im sure we will be fine, plus, its not like we got gambling in WRF.

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too bad i was always on and off during the glory days of WWR

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only truely active after the fall had happened.

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turbid swallow
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add crates? you insane?

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that would get the game close to WWR, not Farther.

prisma blaze
# turbid swallow Your paying to get the hero pilot for cheaper with like abiut 300 warpreals wort...

I think all the bugs, dmg regestration, poor servers, nerfs, Bot Name changes are exactly what the business plan wants.... Every change on gear and weapons let the players grind for gold and stay on this game litlle bit longer... Without them the game is dead... They lost huge number of player after the ceres and locust thing...
If they run it more and more they loos all those who say that this will be wr 2.0

turbid swallow
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Still kinda far from wwr 2.0

Most players are on console, always been the case after beta.

I must be lucky, but i havent exactly been seeing bugs. Dmg registration has no problem for me, seems to hit so long as my ping isnt from mcdonalds. Servers aint poor as i know, apperently its an unreal engine 5 thing and amd that yeets you out of the match. The only valid complaint here us the bot name changes, since that isnt addressed.

Is grind for gold that hard for you? Sorry to hear your loss? But its pretty easy, and thata coming from me, who only does daily tasks and weekly tasks and no more then that. Literally on spend gold on salvage and early access stuff and your set for life.

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Unless we start seeing 20 ads to buy stuff, loot crates, powercell items, motherships, bases, ultimate weapons and mechs, and multiple battle passes at once.

Im pretty sure we are fine, and since this game aint set up for gambling, im more sure that we are fine for a couple years. So long as the playerbase is as big as MWO, we good.

rough glacier
crimson ermine
turbid swallow
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I know

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timber moat
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not full release

raw hull
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The devs dont care... They listen to a small group of people that have quite literally killed the game.
I dont see the actual community being heard, just punishing risk/reward players and catering to lazy players that stroke each other's ego while farming bots.....
Im not spending anymore money or stream time to this game....Like alot of the actual community ( players you actually see on a daily basis)

timber moat
# raw hull The devs dont care... They listen to a small group of people that have quite lit...

I will say the developers actually care always have, you just don't see that, the amount of time they put into building and helping the players grow is amazing its more of a background thing, they take your feedback in and create something needed for the games help. If you think people being lazy is a developer problem that just doesn't make sense and thats just a playerbase thing

raw hull
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They dont take anybodys feedback tho

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Audio glitch, matchmaking issue, constant server drops, nerfing everyweapon thats comes out, not removing d.o.t. from richochet.

timber moat
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Like I said before, we are in "OPEN-BETA"

raw hull
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The list goes on and on. But no lets nerf magnetos for the third time. Lets not fix all the bugs.

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Lol. Ill give them the fact that theres alot of content released. People love that. But when you are being punished for having found friends to play with and having to wait 5 minutes. Or the fact that once u reach platinum ur matched against all leagues plat and above is ridiculous. There is no autofill which there should be and god knows there are tons of people solo queing because of the bs 5 minute wait times...
The fact that people pay for premium just to waste 60% of it waiting in que or getting bumped back to crew memu because nobody gets punished for leaving matches

timber moat
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Thats to stop 6 stacks steamrolling an enemy team, as well as this feedback has been passed about it being reduced on the wait time and some squads can be matched with 3 vs 4 and so on

raw hull
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Again.... Punishing players for grouping up in a team oriented game.... Ridiculous

timber moat
raw hull
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Running solo doenst auto fill!!!!

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Its not a solution.

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Its a crap fix because the devs designed a horrid matchmaking system

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Open beta is a bad excuse as well....
They had a mobile game that is still going to this day, for 12 years....
But i digress because the matchmaking on that game is trash as well

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Content being constantly released is amazing but i know for a fact that the actual community of players that i talk to and listen to everyday wouldnt be upset with a two month break where the devs go and fix the bug issues

timber moat
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Definition of Open Beta: a pre-release version of a product, like software or a video game, that is made available to the general public for testing purposes
There are 4 stages in development testing, Alpha, Closed, Open and Full release

raw hull
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Yea six stacks should be matched with six stacks. But how the matchmaking system is designed its failing the game

timber moat
raw hull
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Open beta or not they have already lost half of their potential playerbase catering to the ones they are listening to instead of taking feedback from the actual community

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Havent seen em, heard from them or even got a reply...

timber moat
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So you are telling me the Trusted Contributors are not doing anything for the developers and that the developers should listen to the community playerbase instead?

raw hull
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And was on every single day since release, all ive seen is all my playstyles and choice of weapons nerfed to the ground while they make missilies and snipers more op by the day

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raw hull
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Yes they should take feedback and advice from the players that are still playing everyday!! Not just a select group that everyone hardly ever even sees and never even fights!

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Zero. Closest would be a purifier with decker shoulders

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Not the sheild/health regen build either that seems to be spreading like a cancer

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Ill revisit thus thread after work...

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But for ur question ill send pics of my regular lineup when i get home

crimson ermine
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I don’t think they’ve actually buffed any sniper weapons in a while. As far as I know, they’ve only been nerfing snipers and missile weapons.

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As for the “items being nerfed to the ground”, only ones I can think of right now are locust and fenrir. Everyone agrees that locust did not deserve a nerf (or at least not such a harsh nerf). Ricochet has always been the problem. We can all agree on that. All of fenrir’s nerfs were justified, except the last one. I’m glad they finally addressed the ridiculous damage buff, but they didn’t compensate it with more healing. They definitely overcorrected fenrir.
Anyways, can’t wait to hear what other items you have in mind.

sterile oar
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i mean honestly i didnt like it at first but having the hero pilot in the gold pass seems like a good deal.

lets be real they need to bring the tanks a notch down. like @finite spire was saying.

purifier, rav, and lancelot are a bit tooo much when it comes to tanks ap wise. weapon wise i think we are sitting in a good spot.

i do believe that ares torso needs a rework to actually have a health limit on its shield like the VG bubble. having a unbreakable shield that also deals damage is a bit much in my eyes. but who knows I'm just a dude that has divulged 2000 in game.

i do agree that the event maps should of already been released and finished for the public

turbid swallow
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Purifier is good as is, no need ot nerf it, its slooooow and has an idenity crisis.

raw hull
# crimson ermine If you can, make a list of the items you use that have been excessively nerfed. ...

I would make a list but im limited with time to fully delve into the changes that were made as well as the shadow nerfs/buffs that werent shown in patch notes...
I made a post asking the devs about transparency, the post dissappeared.
Magnetos have been reworked three times, Locusts needed the distance nerf but didnt address the d.o.t richochet issue... RICOCHET SHOULDNT WORK WITH DAMAGE OVER TIME.
Those are the most recent ones i can reference without spending too much time digging up patch notes....
If u have been playing since release we all know what changes have been made. Missiles and snipers arent being buffed, the playstyles used to counter them have been constantly attacked, and this is why the tank meta has become a problem....
Only listening to a select few "trusted contributors" has only made it worse.
There are bugs and certain pilot perk combinations that need looking into but instead its focused on those that dont sit still and dump their ammunition from spawn

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Missiles from the Alpha just gonna go unnoticed i imagine....

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I love the amount of content but there needs to be a hiatus from the devs to go back and fix bugs and server issues, as well as start making more efforts to get feedback from the actual community....
Weapon and ability reworks are fine but coming from the ceres and matriarch heal nerf it seems very onesided... Granted they needed a slight rework but they overcorrected....

crimson ermine
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All fair points

raw hull
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And to touch on the posts original statement.
This is an event pass, but packing compared to the last "event pass"
Quite expensive and not worth the money especially if its to earn certain weapons or robots that have already been nerfed...
Too many crybabies jealous that someone spent their hard earned money to have a robot and weapon/gear
early, so then they rework the item in question the wrong way...
If it werent for casuals or monetized streamers nobody would be buying these new robots because we all know they get nerfed in two two to three weeks

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I enjoy the game and want it to succeed but the way they are going about it is just gonna make the game fade away

spiral violet
# timber moat Like I said before, we are in **"OPEN-BETA"**

That is said nowhere. It terms of communication the game is on full release and has left early access which is the open beta state of a game.
If they wanted an open beta they could have gone from a paying early access to a free open acces but it is not what happened.
That means they dont have any communication leverage to make the player that got/are being disgusted by the lack of advancement and the aggressive monetisation to come back once they will have their game finished if they manage to keep being funded all the way to there as less players means less money and we dont know how long the shareholders will keep the project alive.

rough glacier
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haughty socket
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Firstly if you want the game to stay alive you need to realize the devs have to make money, and besides some cosmetics everything can be obtained F2P, you cannot even P2W the game if you tried to, cannot max out your bots without intel (not purchasable), cannot speed up pilot levels and even the legendary pilots are become free to obtain. Your point is stupid, i play the game since the first day it's been in testing and even for low lvl players there are so many good builds to choose from, they can even compete with players in diamond, I'd say the devs should make more money of the game so that we can get more high quality content.

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spiral violet
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whats more you can get Millions of dollars by getting a few people to give you a lot of money or you can aim more at getting few dollars out of each player making it more user frendly and then in turn getting more people to chose the paying option. That in turn populate your game as well as is more profitable (a mass of small payers tend to be more profitable than just a few walls giving around 100-1000 dollars each).
In my eyes the dev team is opting for getting a lot of dollars from as many as they can which leads to shrinking of the player base

haughty socket
# urban badge not necessarily, money doesnt only come in the form of dollars, it also comes in...

sure, however how big of an advantage will you gain? as far as I know the new robots aren't broken and by a matter of fact i know many games that do the same thing, they put the item on early release (p2w) and then it becomes free. And what's more i don't think me or you have the necessary experience to judge the developers, you have to remember they are professionals. Sure sometimes they like to gamble but haven't they listened to the community before? like with the p2w cosmetics that are now obtainable for free and heck, even legendary pilots are now obtainable for free...

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spiral violet
# urban badge Not the point, just because its free doesnt mean its fully free, like i said tim...

I do agree that time is money and I think that if the devs would to capitalise more on that it would get a nice welcome.
by that I mean I feel like casual players would love some short big gold boost (counted in hours) or a save that would be consumed and do your dailies or maybe even a week thing that would validate your dailies and weeklies for a week (one set of weeklies validated).
That kind of monetisation would prevent casual player to feel like they dont have the bare minimum amount of resources to keep up and would retain players that might just have a periode of time during which they are unavailable.
That would be better than having stuff hide behind a pay wall until they are reworked and fixed which feels like there is the paying player and the others. that in terms in my mind tend to make the game loose players

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raw hull
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My point about it is that. I work 10 hours a day, and were punished with 5 minute waits if u team up with more than a three stack. Im only getting (rough estimate) 45%-50% of the premium i pay for

turbid swallow
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Then solo queue and wait 2 minutes max.

raw hull
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Thats irrelevant to the problem. Players are being punished for finding teammates in a team oriented game

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There are work arounds but the point is that people shouldnt be punished for teaming up

crimson ermine
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More than 2 min queue time is excessive

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It’s just gonna be bots most of the time anyways, so they should reduce the queue time.

raw hull
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I know tons of players that i talk to and chat with on a regular basis and its a common consensus that 5 minutes is ridiculous

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I understand it was to combat six stacks running the lobby but thats the whole point of teaming up. To beat the team

crimson ermine
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The separation of 4+ stacks was to combat squads stomping randoms. Idk why the 5 min wait time is necessary.

dry pike
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4+ stacks should def be separated from randoms

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100% unfair

crimson ermine
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Yeah, I believe most people are fine with that.

raw hull
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Its a team oriented game. Thats why u find a group u play well with to stop them. If u cant play as a team u dont deserve to climb rank

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I found everyone i group up with by coornating on gamechat or partychatting with people that just whooped my butt

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But if someone pays for premium and works, wlthat person is limited on time and now has even less matches played just to cater to players that dont play well as a team. Why would i pay for premium when i only get 45% of what i paid for. Premium doesnt stop running when offline

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The game doesnt autofill either which is a problem.

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Ive had multiple instances where i run on a 4 stack and we dont get two randoms and get matched against a 6 stack

dry pike
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i personally dont like playing in a team

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does that mean i shouldnt be able to climb rank ever?

raw hull
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Then u get ques with randoms and we all know randoms tend to play like crap

dry pike
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well yea

raw hull
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Im not tryna be disrespectful

dry pike
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im 100% down to que with randoms

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more fun than going against a full stack

raw hull
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Im just pointing out that these 6 stacks are running the lobbies because they are coordinating and playing as a team. In a team oriented game

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I am down to que with randoms as well because that is how ive met most of the players that i play with. But autofill isnt implemented so if not running a 6 stack ur more often going to get bots on ur team

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Its threes or 6. Other wise u run the chance of gettin mismatched against a 6 stack

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And thats not fair either. On top of waiting for 5 min

raw hull
# dry pike does that mean i shouldnt be able to climb rank ever?

What i mean is that 6 stacks running a lobby is due to them coordinating and playing as a team, working together... So you find a group that you play well together and stop their win streak.
Yea on a rare occasion you get qued with randoms that play well and work as a team. But when facing a full stack that is coordinated its not typically gonna end in your favor.
Thats what i meant by my comment

low terrace
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we could do with some modifications to the queue system

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i dont wanna be fightin plats all day

raw hull
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Auto fill should be implemented in matchmaking and you should be matched against ur respective rank and the closer to the next league you fight next league up. Not get to plat and face every league up. Thats what killed the playerbase in the begining

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I run solo and i wouldnt mind being autofilled with a random 4/5 stack

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raw hull
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If people played as a team and at least attempted to back eachother up they wouldnt be stuck in platinum

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When i solo que, more often than not i see players use others as shields and not support at all. When someone pushes the whole group literally abandons said player....

turbid swallow
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i hate it too

rough glacier
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surely that isn't a problem

When a whole game is made on US server when only UE players plays on it

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reef fox
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Well I think most of us here are from WWR we are not going to put up with the same ideology from that game I don't know about other players but I deleted that game because of how bad it got over the years ....I pray that this one does not end up the same as WWR because none of us want to go through that twice I will drop this game so fast ....I think they need to be careful how they handle things if they want the game to be successful
So far I'm enjoying the game and the nerfs and balances have been ok ...just don't let greed destroy the game ...