Who are the Top 25

[worldly echo]

I think Hex should be there bc I see him destroy, no, obliterate some of these players 🥸

[clear marten]

People can disagree whit my but the top 25 dont no i hope the are good but one thing its for sure the play way more than i do the have plenty of free time the are maybe good very good thats possible but i see the ranking system stil like one big joke i am also high player but my parts are far away of being maxed

[compact knot]

Destroyer, Lars and Hector definitely have spots there imo

[clear marten]

And i do not turn of crosplay andgo on purpose whit full sqauds to get ranked against bots and even take the server where most people are sleeping and yes there are many players in top that does that maybe not all but the are there and thats for sure

[clear marten]

Yeah the are good players the play whit crosplay on but the play alot aswel i am not sure because i am far away of maxed but whit their playtime i think the have a few maxed bots but i can by wrong i just dont no but the are good yes

But this feels more for #1033653562221281310 i think but yeah i hope private matches ever come than you can really find out wich belongs to the top if top players go against other top players thats not really the case right now everyone inside platinum and higher up have the same matchmaking

[hasty tulip]

a young warrior, named jacque-n-hoff used to play, and he would be in my top 25

https://tenor.com/view/indian-native-american-knifeman-william-knifeman-gif-25048706

his account got banned and he no longer plays often unfortunately 😔

he was actually pretty cracked, he was always getting top in our 6 stack even though we arent slouches by any means

[wicked tangle]

that's really hard to determine because most of the time the people I lose to either were in a squad or were using like meta tank builds so it's difficult to judge individual skill with the current matchmaking

I mean I guess teamwork would count as a skill to have?

I personally think the truly skilled players are people who barely use any meta and still perform consistently well though

[clear marten]

And all good players wil have their matches where the think that could been way more better also sometimes bad players have an insane match where the shine like yes i am happy whit all people but i hate toxic people you have sometimes and most times the are the most terrible players inside your team i think you can only know it when you matched against someone multiple times its not really easy to say after one match also the game modus

[clear marten]

Like sometimes you lose a teamdeathmatch and if you kill 8 player and die once but your not first place because someone first place get 10 kills but died 12 times for example lol wich players its actual better ? Its not always the player that its on top and ranking system mwa i agree whit what hy said goodnight everyone

[old vector]

Hmm

[wicked tangle]

eh team death match isn't really the best mode to judge skill

it would have to be one of the other modes since I think surviving in your bots for a long time is pretty important

surviving but also like actually doing things I mean

we don't talk about the campers that sit in spawn

I believe getting high impact with just a single bot would be a good factor of skill?

although maybe just consistently high impact by itself is skill? I have no idea

[clear marten]

I agree and than also important what level are the parts from your opponent its not skill if your bot its maxed and from the enemy its all level 1 maybe it depends on the bots and their positions and of the other players but yeah true skill you only know after multiple matches against the same person and some have maybe also more people playing on one acc aswel

[wicked tangle]

yeah that's true level of parts is a thing

[clear marten]

Yes indeed makes a huge difference some say from not but those i want to see defeat another good player solo private match whit level 1 parts lol sad enough not possible private matches yet

[wicked tangle]

I do think level doesn't automatically mean you'll win though like obviously you still need to have game sense and stuff

[clear marten]

Thats true but it stil makes a big difference

[wicked tangle]

it does

[clear marten]

Even when making the same moves and shooting the opponents same parts as he do to you than you wil die way quicker if your parts are all level 1 and from enemy level 13 because enemy survive longer and does more damage aswel but yeah

I find ranking system stil one big joke afterall but good goodnight everyone i really need to go sleep now busy lives

[wicked tangle]

current rank system means literally nothing anyway

[clear marten]

True

[wicked tangle]

true skill just doesn't correlate to rank right now

[copper wren]

The point of this thread is to hear who you all think the top 25 players cross server are the top 100 is not to be taken into consideration

as the top 100 shows alot of people who play with crossplay off and people who bot farm or leave every match before it starts if it is a team they will not win against but there are people in the top 100 that rightfully belong there

[hasty tulip]

Just to state the obvious, I feel like hector is somewhere in there

[worldly echo]

I think I belong in top 10-14, most ppl I fight against who don't farm bots are pretty ez

[hasty tulip]

I think champs may be in there as well

[copper wren]

Also i am fully aware of the blowback or the anger this will get from some people, and that others feel this is wrong but i accept this and wish to continue with this controversial topic

[sterile badge]

Much of this correlates to how they choose to play and their skill with how they play. How much time they get to play limits this bc of bot levels, and available parts. This is really controversial.

I do not have an answer, I'm sorry.

[dim zodiac]

I haven’t really been around long enough to know all the top dawgs.

[hollow olive]

ION 1000%

[dim zodiac]

Ion, king gabo, perro, suns out, nuker, samerin, ivan, sirin, gio, gladzilla, nuker I think all have spots, probably elite killa

[hollow olive]

Destoryer 100% in top 25, but lars and hector are only good if they play in a crew, they are not as good solo, from what I've experienced and seen. Same with me, I am not good solo, but better (and have beaten these players, but not destroyer) in a crew.

Thats just my personal take on this comment.

[copper wren]

Misty,Destroyer,ION,Tr-87Pro,Doctor Fish,Maxicle just some EU players

[hollow olive]

I am in top 25 in your opinion? :O

[copper wren]

I feel it would be unfair to not include 10 players from EU

[hollow olive]

Fair, its an honnor for you to think of me :> I appreciate that.

[copper wren]

I dont know any asia server players aside from ZBC

[copper wren]

add Legit no life to that list

yotty

Fishstickers

[dim zodiac]

Yup

[copper wren]

There are many more names i could add but i do not want to be naming

[dim zodiac]

Idk if I’ve earned a spot yet, I don’t even have maxed out bots. Nothing at 13. Only 4/6 bots at lvl 12 in my hanger

[copper wren]

also we need to be sure that active players are named

because there are plenty that could be listed that are no longer active

[dim zodiac]

Prime evil has gotten better

[worldly echo]

yeah but I destroy em so its fine

[wicked tangle]

a lot of players who do well play in crews most of the time though and i dont think doing well because youre in a crew is a good indicator of skill because teamwork can beat anyone

[pallid flicker]

I feel glad has a place in there, ac also.

[wicked tangle]

i think solo performance counts the most towards skill

[old vector]

Yes not team performance

Has to be base off of actual players solo performance

[wicked tangle]

mhmm

[compact knot]

I have heard of Lars still playing very well in solos but way more effectively in crews but playing in crews definitely helps ya

[dim zodiac]

V shock, jovit, jaybonez, crazyghost some other considerations

[old vector]

Glazing hard

[thorny citrus]

jaybonez aint that good

[wicked tangle]

a lot of the mentioned people play in crews so its hard to actually know how good they are

[tired musk]

College is a pain

[clear marten]

I play also solo my most friends dont want to team up thinking the get harder opponent while its not the case the are already platinum and i dont play much anymore i also play better inside sqaud think everyone does and i stil get matched up against some friends sometimes and i gonna clean up my list many send friend reqeust after a fight you never hear of them again lol unless you would join their sqaud almost every single day again a free for all match would by fun maybe

[dry nymph]

🔥 🔥

[copper wren]

@worldly echo how can you nominate yourself have you no shame?

rhetorical question btw

[hasty tulip]

tbf one of the hallmarks of a skilled player is being able to do well in a team. It makes it harder to answer the question of who is in top 25 but their team play shouldn't be discounted either. Unless this question is aim specifically at solo que players

[worldly echo]

I sure do love showing some pride for myself when I think I deserve it ☝️ 👴

[honest berry]

From my experience I’d say hector and raven knight

It’s hard to tell though of other picks cause I usually just get jumped by most well known people and their crews

[compact knot]

hes ragebaiting

[hollow olive]

Yeah, exactly.

[winter lynx]

Kinda hard to judge how good some of these skilled players are when they’re also using the most powerful setups possible. Like, yeah, maybe they’re good, but a lot of the potentially good players I see/hear about are using whatever the currently most broken items are. Add on the fact that they squad up with other good players who also use meta items… It gets kinda messy trying to figure out who’s actually good.

[wicked tangle]

obviously how well you work in a team is a skill but if we are trying to figure out the top players by themselves crews just can't be taken into consideration

[wicked tangle]

exactly my point

which is why I believe the best players are the ones who use little to no meta and still do consistently well in their matches solo

[jade linden]

https://tenor.com/view/spray-bottle-cat-spray-bottle-spray-bottle-meme-loop-gif-25594440

All of you

[wicked tangle]

what did we do 😭

[winter lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/hungy-lizard-lick-gif-17981615152551697402

[jade linden]

That is exactly the case ... but I personally will not be ranking people sorry

[winter lynx]

I remember when I thought I was one of the best…

[thorny citrus]

That is completely understandable

[wicked tangle]

I mean I'm not even ranking people I'm just talking about what I think skill is in this game

[thorny citrus]

Like for 1

[jade linden]

Ranking people is extremely hard to do , some people are called good but they run Meta and some other dont use it because they understand how OP it is and they find ways to counter it , plus its a team game , meaning the one with the better teammates will win.

[wicked tangle]

skill is beating the meta ravana healing tank with a single railgun build obviously!!

[thorny citrus]

Dealing damage because you have players who run aoe

Like flames magentos

And others who only have single target

[jade linden]

Also keep in mind people from different servers have different top players, you cant compare server top tiers.

There are just too mammy variables

[thorny citrus]

And those with single target will on almost all times deal less damage overall damage

[jade linden]

The only thing that is clear in this case is not skill or gameplay, its experience and time spent learning the game in my opinion 🤗.

[winter lynx]

And boy do some people have time…

[wicked tangle]

experience translates to skill

you learn from experiences every time

[jade linden]

Yes 🤗

[wicked tangle]

and those learnings apply to your gameplay!! which increases your skill!!!

[jade linden]

Exactly, its just that many people think that skill is only and mainly from the performance in games , but the main thing you should be looking at is time spent and then everything comes along clearly 🫠

[wicked tangle]

well everyone learns at different paces so it's still possible for someone who has like 1000 hours to be worse than someone with 500

[thorny citrus]

and also put into consideration that others learn faster then some others

some dont play alot but are strong players

or they new

[jade linden]

Yup , that is why not even that is the total , but it is the majority, really good examples of players I know that have fewer hours than me and have achieved amazing skills are Rrnad and Xmozarela, exelent players. That use no Meta fun fact

[wicked tangle]

we love no meta

I wanna see more people use default harpy and be demons with it

[thorny citrus]

ill try that later

defulat harpy was my best and favorite bot

[wicked tangle]

default harpy non meta meta

default harpy is simply the goat

it's clearly just the best build!

[thorny citrus]

meta only counts for bots

not titans right?

we only got 4 titains

[jade linden]

Titan Meta can change every update depending on what robots are Meta

[thorny citrus]

i seen lots more grims. voltas and alphas and fewer martarchs on the fields

[jade linden]

So recommend all of you to upgrade all titans 🤗

[jade linden]

I see 👀

[thorny citrus]

and also which bot would you reccomdend that is all rounder?

You may have seen me say this a few times but

[jade linden]

The one I recommend to all rounded build is this old one https://discord.com/channels/941368722860417105/1386068234154803271 , its a Meta counter since Beta and is still in my hangar today and it won't move its too reliable 🤗

[thorny citrus]

The middle bot I have there in my hanger (below the titain) is a filler because I don’t have a 5th one yet that I would want to run

[jade linden]

Aha I see

[thorny citrus]

Otherwise I would only be using 4

[jade linden]

Ok let me think

[pallid terrace]

Yotty Turkey Val Atlas

I realize many of us haven’t been on. But throw those names in there.

Also Happy Thanksgiving and holidays to all of you that I haven’t seen in a while!

I miss all you guys! Hope everyone is still brawling hard!

Put Fish in there too

[compact lagoon]

I feel there's two big team in eu, being yours (or at least the people you usually play with) and halek's

Outside of that, I could tell a few names I consider good, but prob not top player all around.

[pallid terrace]

Valydanos Epyon

UnloadedBow Elysia

[compact lagoon]

In EU Lars is surely dangerous, but mostly because he always plays in a team. Wouldn't say he is that dangerous in a 1v1.

[pallid terrace]

Great point. Some of the best players are there when you need them, not just on the brawl.

[jade linden]

the only person in game that has ever killed me with no effort was back in Beta , it was Melissa till today none has ever defeated me like that, she read me like a book

[thorny citrus]

someone who knows the game

and work on it as well

can beat you because they played on both sides

[old vector]

I knew i smell the glazing from in here

[copper wren]

double dipping glaze

[old vector]

Si

[old vector]

You going to post the list or nah?

[jade linden]

same

[clear marten]

I do not really agree maybe a tiny bit bit some weapons that go for one spot can destroy that one spot faster than any other weapon can nucleon for example

[thorny citrus]

?

[copper wren]

you are asuming i am doing something the entire point of this thread is for you all to list your thoughts

[thorny citrus]

I was talking about the total damage

[clear marten]

Total damage only yes some that shoot for one part you make way more kills

[thorny citrus]

Aoe almost every time outdoes single target guns in every match

[wanton dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/postal-petition-gif-22801949

[clear marten]

Only on total damage not really on killing someone faster

[copper wren]

I'll sign that

[thorny citrus]

.

[clear marten]

For my the can even nerf it a tiny bit that weapons all are more like do damage to just one module you would not hear my complaining than

[thorny citrus]

I think you are confused

I am not talking about time to kill

[clear marten]

But yes i just hope the true top 100 wil become better one day matchmakings are stil a jokr we can all agree on that

[clear marten]

Nice

Total damage yes

[thorny citrus]

I am talking about the damage done at the end of match

[clear marten]

😊

[thorny citrus]

AOE will outdo single almost every time

Depending on the user

Talking about endgame reports like these

I don’t use much aoe

[clear marten]

On just damage yes things i dont like its team deathmatch its not really good in my opinion normal i like it but sometimes you lose because someone maybe get one more kill for first place but also died 12 times for example it does not brings your team to victory at all

[thorny citrus]

Only martiarch swarm and raven torso with mines on my ceres

[clear marten]

Yed

Yes

[clear marten]

Last team staning itd better in my opinion

[thorny citrus]

They get outdone by halos and tusks in terms of ttk

[clear marten]

But we go out of topic i know i wil leave this concersation aswel have a good day everyone

[copper wren]

the sad part is no matter how much you may carry how many kills you may get or damage you do alot of times 1 singular person is unable to clutch the win with how alot of the random teammates behave, it frustrates me when alot of players treat every game mode like TDM

[thorny citrus]

That true

And when it time for tdm

Players treat it like they aint gonna get their bots back

[copper wren]

I am by no means the best player but i do consider myself a good solo player and a good squad player i have my faults some times im pro level other times i make noob mistakes

[clear marten]

The get their bots back and die every single time why your team lose sometimes

[thorny citrus]

Everyone does

Like last Tuesday I Didn’t see that we were down

😭

And went in to kill that Volta

If I payed attention and saw that we were down I wouldn’t have done that

[clear marten]

I see my the same everyone also pro players and yeah who its that lol anyway also pro players lose sometimes a bot because a tiny misscalculation or just a silly misstake everyone haves that but yeah we are all good 👊😎👊

[old vector]

Depends on how you look at it

[copper wren]

the actual Top players know exactly who they are and who else is there with them , but Ego will eat most of there brains, big reason why i wanted to cover this controversial topic and include the community Truth hurts, pointing out flaws can be helpful, i personally love constructive criticism wish i got it more, i wanted interaction, thoughts and opinions and to stay away from drone behavior, i apologize if this is explained wrong i am not the best with words or explanations.

[hasty tulip]

yeah I know who I am 😂

[copper wren]

do i know you 😄 j/k

[hasty tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/king-king-baldwin-king-baldwin-4-rikoamv-riko-amv-gif-8479237540916603760

[hasty tulip]

LMAO

[copper wren]

ah but of course

he who sheds a glimmer of light in the darkness

[old vector]

Thats why im just reading the chat

[wary tangle]

Top 25 means nothing right now, you can abuse crossplay off, use some hours to get very low players

Anyone who play alot like ALOT vs bots can be top 25 without difficulties.

For the other legit players it just mostly means they always play in 3 squad with very good teammate

If anyone is in the top 25 without playing with teammate GG to him 👏

[jade linden]

Exactly

[wary tangle]

When i reached top 2 in s2 i didnt feel like "damn im so good"

but more like "Woaw playing with 6 crew is enough to win 98% of the game"

[winter lynx]

When there are like 1k total players, that’s not surprising.

[jade linden]

I was the 3nd person in EU to reach Noachium in S3 solo fully and no cross play off , but that doesn't mean that i am 3rd best player in EU servers necessarily, nothing can determine the top 25 from the stats we have rn there are just to manny variables ....

And keep in mind Ego will eat this forum fully and opinions

[wary tangle]

Making solo queue and crew/clan modes competitive would solve all the problems

The problem is: will there still be enough players if this mode is implemented? 👀

[jade linden]

Well another way to determine skill is to have win rate on solo games and showing players average kill rate and assist rate on solo games and diferent on crew games

Also there hangar on display

Because as we all know there are a lot of people that only run Meta and think they are Gods

[wary tangle]

I like the general idea! I'm a little worried that some people will just copy and paste the builds of "good players" without knowing how to play them

[jade linden]

This meme is for solo players btw

[wary tangle]

i dream of a gamemode like robocraft, Giga Titan vs alot of small bots

A merge version of Matriarch/Alpha able to make drone that shoot missiles etc

[jade linden]

🔥

[worldly echo]

feels more like this to me

[wary tangle]

blue berries is a gentle term to say newbie ?

[worldly echo]

mhm

[jade linden]

In my eyes blueberrys are randoms that instead of helping you hurt your performance in game to fight off the enemy

[pallid terrace]

@copper wren have a L1 bot tourney. Think stock car racing. You’ll know who is the top 25 in that.

[thorny citrus]

Happens alot

Worse is when players keep off cross play and blame you for leaving

Like

Who wants to fight against bots???

[jade linden]

Personally 2 weeks ago after being in Noachium for a long time now , I had to turn it off for the first time , because people tried to time drop with eachother and fight me 1v4 or even 1v6 , and I was getting annoyed, I really hate unfair matches that kept on repeating and stacking

I was capable of fighting people easily but as soon as my blueberrys got evaporated I was left alone 😑

[copper wren]

The question of who are the TOP 25 has nothing to do with the top 100 leaderboard for obvious reasons

[copper wren]

yup once the randoms get picked apart your on your own, even thou that is how it felt the entire time

[wary tangle]

Then in top 25 overall i'm going to say SnowLeopard but idk if he's still playing

[clear marten]

Whit his subwoofer spiderbot yes i think hy stil plays but maybe not much at the moment we all have a normal life aswel ofcourse

[wary tangle]

yeah, got alot of difficulty vs him

[clear marten]

Yes hy its a good player yes also one of the best i played against but its stil not eays to say wich ones are trule top 25 but that player its good yes most times but we all have good and sometimes that one terrible match xD

[wanton dagger]

Very rarely

[jade linden]

Really rarely and he is ok 👍

[clear marten]

I also dont no if everyone have their dream bots ? But there are stil bots i want and than need to level them up wil take a long way if you dont play much every day after work

[wary tangle]

Without doubt for top 25 overall i can say (ik some are not playing anymore, but they give me the biggest impact)

SnowLeopard
Tr-87pRo
.spxnk
Misty
Fishy
IRzb
Ion
Moedig_Robot
Just Another Steve (as Sniper only)
Music

As support i have only 2 names in mind :

Maxicle
DwD

[clear marten]

😊

[jade linden]

Aawwww I see many names that i haven't seen in a while, also I would say you would be in there but you might be a bit rusty

[clear marten]

Moedig robot its from the netherlands i do not see him much but i fight a few times against him but yeah i am 99 of the 100 times solo whit randoms against those players

[wary tangle]

Locust era killed alot of players

[clear marten]

If you name its ingame also frank than we matched also against each other sometimes

[wary tangle]

Yes it is

[clear marten]

Yes

[jade linden]

Ik 😔

[wanton dagger]

I miss Rob, also what about Halek?

[jade linden]

Hope you are having more fun lately 🤗

[wary tangle]

Halek was peak in S1

[jade linden]

Actually I dont think so , but i do know where Haleck was N1 , and that was in Beta , after release he has a fall off like all of us but a really heavy one for him , still happy to see him play though 🤗

[wanton dagger]

True, don't get me wrong, he's still goated BUT HOLY HELL, that Ares gozer build that he's running is so annoying lol
I think he def would be in here somewhere

[jade linden]

In Beta Haleck was OP

[wary tangle]

he was very potent in S1, i learned like everything from him

How to make very fast jump etc xD

[jade linden]

Oh yeah surely, but you had to see him in Beta 😅

[wary tangle]

We should organize an event with 6 man crew vs 6

[jade linden]

We could to fun things like that in the future surely 🤗

Would love to see and play with friends with or as enemies

[clear marten]

Yes 6 vs 6 and 1 vs 1 or free for all happy if it ever comes private matches i think the game would grow more whit that

[wanton dagger]

Ah yes 6 vs 6 clan wars
I'm cooked 😭

[wary tangle]

Maybe in 6 seasons

[wary tangle]

The simple fact of being able to play private games can be so much fun

[clear marten]

But clans are stil terrible right ? I mean i am stil new not that old in the game there its no option to create or join a clan maybe on the internet but not in the game itselves the where working on that right ?

[clear marten]

Thats true

[wanton dagger]

You just reminded me about that

[wary tangle]

Clans doesn't exist in game right now

[clear marten]

Thats sad

[wanton dagger]

Well the first thing that they have to do is create player profiles

[wary tangle]

You have 3 active "clans" in the game

Havoc
Eclipse
and a bit of MDR

[clear marten]

Yes indeed

[wanton dagger]

DAA not mentioned we are cooked :(

[wary tangle]

tbh even the "clans" doesn't rly exist anymore

People just play with their buddies and that's all, i don't feel the "clan" part in game rn

[wanton dagger]

I feel like that Havoc is the only one that plays most of the time with clan members

[wary tangle]

Before i was like "Omg we are fighting 6 stack RIOT, let's bang them"

[wanton dagger]

Dont even remind me when I was fighting against full 6 stack from MDR dawg 😭

[wary tangle]

good old days

Even if i know 6 stack was a hell for the health of the game

[wary tangle]

Sowwy, atleast you are the most gentle clan

[pearl flicker]

Regarding the topic I think Like Frank you should have a solo rank and a team rank as some player are good duelist other function fully only in team and some do both.
Using an addapted trophy like systeme but with condition wouldn't traumatize me or maybe have competitions at set dates

[wary tangle]

I can't think about toxicity in DAA

[pearl flicker]

Don't you worry if stacks are allowed back ( or tags) we will be back

[wary tangle]

Ye alot of us are hyped to go back i game if clan wars is implemented

[jade linden]

Hi Aryurus 🤗

[hasty tulip]

a lot of players wanted clan wars? what exactly does that entail

like custom 6v6?

[wary tangle]

With like exclusive reward as paints etc

[wanton dagger]

2nd league 😭

[hasty tulip]

oh yeah that'd be sick as hell

[wanton dagger]

Think about that more in depth

[wary tangle]

could give a 2nd wind to the game for sure

[wanton dagger]

Special paint, credits and salvage, MAYBE EVEN free reels if your caln was in the top 3 for each month or season

clan shops

trades

[wary tangle]

not enouh players for free reels i think

[wanton dagger]

theres A LOT of potential

[wary tangle]

But yeeee for the others parts 😄

[hasty tulip]

yeah clans seem to have kinda died out a little lately. If the clans could cone back and help fill up top league matchmaking that would fix another problem lol

[wanton dagger]

It could be like 200 for each month for the 1st place 100 for 2nd and 50 for 3rd

[wary tangle]

yeah seems fine like that

[hasty tulip]

I hope they implement the clan wars man 👍

[wary tangle]

hope so but don't think that will be implemented

[copper wren]

There is more The Reckless
DAA
EGO
and a few others

[wicked tangle]

I would love to see all those meta spam crew players play without meta and solo and see how well they do

[honest berry]

S1 was a amazing high for me. Made unique builds and would be top of my team 95% of the time even against stacks.

Now…not so much

[wicked tangle]

and stacks back then were even worse!!

me when 1v6

[copper wren]

My curent hangar

[honest berry]

I fought the slime stack many times then lol

[copper wren]

:Pursuer stack

[wicked tangle]

but even nowadays stacks still just feel somehow equally oppressive even though it's only three players

[honest berry]

Oh yeah, the pursuer gozer army

[wicked tangle]

maybe it's just because of the unkillableness of the tanks

[honest berry]

I just get dog piled every-time. They never leave each others side

[wicked tangle]

it really just sucks to play against

[copper wren]

after you would beat there crutch they would all fall apart and that was everyone that abused those

It's the same thing with this tank meta if you can beat them down and outlast them you can easily turn it around and win

[honest berry]

It always felt like halo reach fighting that team cause everyone else would die then only getting 0-1 kill then be out of the game

[wicked tangle]

kinda hard to do that as a mainly solo player

[honest berry]

The tank meta saddens me

[wicked tangle]

fr

[copper wren]

oh i am very well aware getting 5+ mil damage and higher impact than the winning team and still loosing

[wicked tangle]

😔

common solo experience

[honest berry]

I’m kinda tired of soloing for so long Dag nabit

[copper wren]

i prefer to solo or 3 stack because 6 stacking is either mostly bots or you beat w/e other 6 stacks that are out there and they avoid you like the plague

the game has turned into a group finder and not a match maker

I still have high hopes for this game thou hopefully season 4 will address alot of the communities issues with what has been going on. 5 months same meta got old after the 1st 3 months meta should change every season

[honest berry]

Only person I used to somewhat play with semi consistently was grapebunch. Good ol grapebunch

[copper wren]

i will admit it i have 4 maxed out lvl 13 defenders but i am using none of them

[wicked tangle]

crews with solos has always been an issue because it's always unfair for the solos to face crews but I know they can't really do anything about it because low playerbase

[honest berry]

Eh, they take a little too long for balance changes. It may sound like I’m trying to be rude butttt the devs are out of touch it feels like.
Like they originally they saw no issue with anything ceres used

[copper wren]

a good fix would have been if turning crossplay off was never a thing

[honest berry]

Eh some people need to win to have fun so that mode helps those people. Especially ones that can’t find a group

[copper wren]

yes but that also puts people on the top 100 that only play cross play off

[wicked tangle]

thing about crossplay is they should separate the on and off queues like if people want to play with bots let them stop having them be able to drag crossplay on players into 1v1s or 2v2s

[hasty tulip]

maybe all the really skilled players should just hop into these queues and smash everyone with their cross-platform off lol

meta everything just wipe those guys out

[copper wren]

no matter what except for when they are new to the game i would rather play players over bots i always feel bad when bronze silver gold are pulled into lobbies that they shouldnt be in

as a Noachium i should never be faced off against a lvl 17 bronze it's just wrong

thou there have been times where we would wipe out the entire team except for the bronze or silver and feed them all the kills and damage once there teams were erased

[wicked tangle]

yeah it always just sucks when that happens

[echo swan]

You mean lars the youtuber?

[devout pivot]

ye i watch Lars a lot. he seems to be pretty good.

[echo swan]

Oh, in that case I’d logically fall into the top 25 as well, given that I’ve won multiple matches against him (and not limited to just one-on-one encounters).

[wanton dagger]

But thats the thing. This doesnt work like that

The only logicall way to prove such thing is to do factroy mirror battles

[sand warren]

U could be there u pretty good

[echo swan]

Exactly! It's very hard to determine which player is the best.

[sand warren]

U evolved fast and good

[wanton dagger]

Me with 500 hours and nearly all bots maxed out :)

If you played TPS and similar aka heros shooters you will 100% get a hang of this game VERY fast

[echo swan]

I’d argue more that I’m among the best, definitely not the best due to my aim, haha. But exceptionally valuable when it comes to strategy. I never failed to lead my team to the win if everyone followed my commands, if I may put it that way.

[sand warren]

I remember when ur PC couldnt handle wrf and u needed New parts because i was boke and u came back stronger 👁️ 👄 👁️

[echo swan]

Apart from that, I prefer to use my own homemade builds (even if they contain meta elements) rather than blindly copying the “best” meta build, so as not to make myself dependent on a skill-less meta and to stay on a more consistent side. Tho 1 full meta build is always okay for those who already proved their skill.

[echo swan]

It was a horrible time. Yes, WRF literally killed my Graphics card 😭

As if that weren't enough with my internet problems...

[sonic grove]

Hmm i wonder why..

Almost like his name means something..

[old vector]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[hasty tulip]

couldn't be it. I think its because Sony is corrupt and wants to keep him down 💀

[sonic grove]

both are equally likely lmao

[honest berry]

I’m more along the lines of being a useful tool. If someone gives orders I’ll usually follow them pretty well otherwise I run around the map being very uncoordinated and opportunistic

[old vector]

In my opinion, the top 25 players doesn't matter an shouldn't matter to this community, each one of us is a skilled player put into the field to test an show our skills i believe theirs shouldn't be a leader board. Even for myself I dont glaze over myself cause I have my days

The ones that glaze over themselves shows cockiness, in my opinion a good player helps others improve their skills shows others methods to use an help them grow. In my opinion that is the greatest player thats out here

[honest berry]

Nuh uh, the leaderboard is always right cause it says so

[old vector]

😭

[compact lagoon]

Lars is good, but I wouldn't say he is that good. On video, you'd show only the good moments

[pallid flicker]

@pallid terrace i would put you in there.

@jade linden I've killed you..

I hope everyone is doing well and staying strong o7.

[pallid terrace]

Not anymore sir. Been months since I logged. Happy New Year’s fellas!

[jade linden]

Well yes i do like to hop on to US servers despite the ping 🤗

I am EU player

And for example i know Misty or Destroyer are top 1 for sure in EU

But that doesnt mean i cant beat them here and there with a smaller chance, manny reasons can play like , ping , if they are sleepy , if they are doin challenges , if they are testing bots and pilots , if there team is brain dead or not. And so much more 🤗

🫠

So people stop comparing each other there is on different servers XDDD

[vague brook]

thats a joke of an arguement lmao

[frail raptor]

Frank, HaleKteraz, Ion, Destroyer, Maxicle, PERRO_ace, L3VI4TH4N, to name just a few

[jade linden]

Hi dwd 🤗

[frail raptor]

Salut Ion

Sorry, I just got to the end of the thread^^ Is everything alright?

It takes a long time to translate everything^^

[wanton dagger]

This thread is so uhhh
I dunno how to say that

[frail raptor]

I had a good laugh anyway 😹

[vague brook]

Oohh @frail raptor hello hello

Didnt know you were in the discord

[frail raptor]

I don't come often and I usually stick to the French Discord server^^

I have to go, have a good evening! Kisses

[sonic grove]

wait your telling me that if I choose a specific bot to counter a top players bot, then kill them, I can instantly say I'm better than them?

[echo swan]

People who actually do such things have not yet found the necessary clarity for it.

[jade linden]

Exactly

Lol i have died to a lot of things i am not imortal or anything else , just another player 🫠

I somme times throw bots if the game is easy so i can change around 🫠

And too add it on top i only have faced sweets 1 time and i was in US server

Because i whanted to play with my US friends

[sand warren]

Bro my thoughts

Names in here that dont belong here 💀

(Lets go riot guys)

[pallid flicker]

@vague brook i wasn't trying to argue? I like ion i was giving him a hard time.

[jade linden]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-dance-cat-dance-cat-dancing-gif-27532461

Me rn

Just loving everyone and not understanding why this forum is still up

Me nub

[sand warren]

Bwcause im lookin at u

[jade linden]

👁️ 👄 👁️

[sand warren]

👁️ 👄 👁️

[jade linden]

The what

[winter lynx]

Hi. It’s me. The #1 player. We can close this forum now.

[sand warren]

Thought @west trellis is

[jade linden]

Facts !!

[sand warren]

Didnt someone say that?

[jade linden]

Nah its the stupid bot with 4 mag Griffin

[sand warren]

Lets burn the Community with op whos the best

[jade linden]

Solo wins us all

[sand warren]

There will never be a best

But lets do it

[winter lynx]

But I’m the best

[pallid flicker]

I would live to set up some fun games with everyone. I haven't been on in a month or so, but we could do some stock fights!

[jade linden]

But Griffin mag is op

[winter lynx]

A close 2nd

[pallid flicker]

Griffin mag is a gimmick that's easy to walk.

[jade linden]

🙂 i can let glad know if you whant

[pallid flicker]

9 seconds then you're cannon fodder.

[sand warren]

Ion lets play Generation zero

[jade linden]

Well ye but if you are forced to brawl with it its over , some times 😋

[pallid flicker]

Ya hit him up ion and we could bring some of the old guys back for a fun fight night!

[jade linden]

Sure happy to help 🤗

[sand warren]

Old guys? Isnt @copper wren already old?

[jade linden]

40 somthing

[pallid flicker]

Ya just lmk I'm on arc now helping people out.

[sand warren]

Dont shoot

[pallid flicker]

Lol im 8437.

[winter lynx]

I just checked with my mom and not only am I the best, I’m also the most handsome, so idk how y’all are gonna compete with that.

[pallid flicker]

I'm old....

[sand warren]

👁️ 👄 👁️

[pallid flicker]

@winter lynx Lol love it.

[winter lynx]

Checkmate atheists.

[sand warren]

How du u know

[pallid flicker]

Be safe everyone and I hope you all had a good new years!

[sand warren]

U too sweets

[winter lynx]

I ate the king.

[sand warren]

Nah that someone is atheist

[winter lynx]

Idk. It’s just part of the saying.

[sand warren]

Ah okay maybe some english thing i dont know about

[winter lynx]

I can’t really get into cause it stems from religious arguments.

[honest berry]

Nuh uh my mom told me I was!!!

[winter lynx]

it seems we have a problem then...

https://tenor.com/view/the-good-the-bad-the-ugly-standoff-clint-eastwood-mexican-standoff-duel-gif-17886498191986627176

[honest berry]

You know who else has a problem?

https://tenor.com/view/muscle-man-you-know-who-else-my-mom-regular-show-funny-gif-9101122073397073314

[wary tangle]

That top is biaised so^^

[misty wigeon]

I despise that griffin.

[tidal kestrel]

Not me most of my elo is playtime

[frail raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/kids-gun-car-gif-22152067
what names?

[frail raptor]

I'll 1v1 you with my healers

https://tenor.com/view/shake-it-shake-your-body-cat-people-gif-19480757

Okay, I'll stop trolling. Have fun, guys. Peace, honor, and prosperity.

😘

[winter lynx]

You’re welcome. 🥰

[wanton drum]

kingvgio, medusa, rrnad, pyramid, hector, wild turkey, yottyone, awesomesoul, legitnolife, fishstickers, bigsweets, hex,

id say here is my list i think deserves the true top.

i didnt mention any eu/asia players because i never fight against them so no harsh feelings. i know there are some powerhouses over there.

there are alot of other top noachuims in the top 100. but there is alot of them that hide behind teammates and cant 1v1 properly so i dont think they deserve to get a mention.

ill update my list as memory comes to fruition

[winter lynx]

Based on the clips I’ve seen from champsjay and what I’ve personally seen while fighting with/against hector, they both deserve top 100 placements.

Those two are the ones I know for certain. Everyone else that I might consider good, I’ve either not seen much of them or I’ve only seen them with meta stuff.

[old vector]

Most of the time its meta

[tiny burrow]

0 europeans lol

[frail raptor]

in game name? (me: DwD1445)

invite me

[winter lynx]

Rynen. Same as here. I’m working rn.

[frail raptor]

We'll organize that tomorrow then.

Good luck with the work

bye

[wanton drum]

lol I did mention there is no eu/Asia since I haven’t played against them

[torpid copper]

The only people that care about the top 25 are those that think they belong in the top 25.

The leaderboard means nothing but time played.

If we had individual rankings per mech weight or something. That might be cool.

Too many variables. My top 25 individually is different from my top 25 on a team. My top 25 brawler is different from my top 25 support/mid range person.

[vague brook]

Bout time someone said it

Defining top players in a game like this is so difficult we might as well not even try

[clear marten]

Yes i agree. i dont care much. what players use. but players that use only tank bots thats no problem. But only use that whit the 2 health gears. Its no skill in my opinion. some use only overpowerd bots i play whit normal bots. and the all have weak parts. i only use 2 fully tanks but whitout gear that makes my overpowerd. And i stil see many meta users keeping close to their matriarch. lol i see many players sometimes the do better in a match but plenty of times also worse. it depends on many things. Frustrating bugs. I think of your just friendly and never leave a match. than your already a top 25 player for my atleast no toxic joke people

..For example i died last time one vs one to a single last standing grim i could drstroyed that grim that could have no damage resistance but hy did not have bullet regestration or something fully ares bullets on his torso but taked zero damage lol 😂. Those little bugs results losing a good bot for just no reason. Sometimes

[wanton drum]

https://tenor.com/view/myhome-50lakhs-gif-11659973563001185124

That’s why I named the people I did. They work well in a team. Don’t have to crutch meta. And they also can perform well 1v1

[old vector]

Mhm mhm sure

Whatever floats ya boat

[old vector]

😭 about feelers is crazy

[signal moat]

Isn't it a bit self-centered to put yourself on your list? 🤣 It's like, since nobody tells me, I'll tell myself

[wanton drum]

I think I’m a true adversary. Unlike you. You leave match’s paired against me

[tiny burrow]

How to make yourself look stupid ahh take

[signal moat]

From your list, I'd only highlight rnnad, Medusa, and Kingvio. They're true veterans of the game, and I've seen them adapt to every metagame and excel

[signal moat]

And if you think you're so good, let others speak for you, not you

you look pathetic

I'm sorry, but someone had to tell you

nothing personal

[wanton drum]

My names already been mentioned by others read up you goon

[winter lynx]

It’s just funny to list yourself. “Not to be that guy, but I’m kinda awesome.” lol

[tiny burrow]

This thread blew up...

[wary tangle]

I think that post is over

We can close it, it's cycling for days

[signal moat]

I'm not going to reply anymore because I'll get banned, it's better to leave it like this

[pearl flicker]

I mean it had to be expected from a "say if you are the best" post XD

[cold solstice]

The top 25 are the friends we made along the way

[wary tangle]

What if : We don't have friends ?

[cold solstice]

Never too late to find them

[winter lynx]

After careful consideration and extensive research, I believe “the Fallen” deserves the #1 spot.

[ember haven]

I believe John Pilot is #1

[winter lynx]

But this is John 1v6 we’re talking about. Is John Pilot that good?

[tiny burrow]

No, you don't know. He ranked to platinum with just doing Solidus Node. His skills are so high that they bled into ranked and he ranked up that way. Truly a goat

[torpid copper]

I'll be happy to speak for Yotty as one of the elite of the elite.
I think anyone with a half a brain knows this.

[signal moat]

I never said he wasn't, just that he looks ridiculous proclaiming himself as such simply because some random person mentioned it

[cold solstice]

John Pilot is way too good to be simply put in a list

he's superior to that

[torpid copper]

Have you ever played competitive anything?
The elite know they are elite.

Anyone who has played competitive sports (and I know thats a stretch for a lot of gamers, but not all), knows that the elite guys speak up. Most of the time its because people KNOW they are elite and don't really feel the need to mention them, but they make sure you know they know.

No issues with that. It comes with competitive spirits.

Hell Glad probably wanted to see someone say he's on the list 🙂

[old vector]

https://tenor.com/view/glaze-gif-14668791808919620231

[signal moat]

Look, if you're asking me if I know who Elite is in the game, I don't think there's much point in continuing to answer you

[torpid copper]

Closets are for clothes sir. That much homophobia? This is a safe space. It's a whole new world out there. You are safe young'n. I support your life choice.

[torpid copper]

Short of one match against you the other day, I have never heard of you. So are you newer?

[jade linden]

Can we end this forum like close it or delete it 🫠

[wanton drum]

Competitive spirits keeps the blood flowing

[torpid copper]

Oh the leaderboard? Yeah been on it too. It's more a reflection of how often you play and/or the crew you play with. But look! You see on there.

[torpid copper]

No. Don't be a sissy. It's okay to talk and debate.

[cold solstice]

the server doesnt need more drama

I understand Ion

[jade linden]

I am not beeing anything , i just dont think this is somthing we need in this server ....

[torpid copper]

Drama keeps things active. Everyone needs a bad guy.

And nothing so far in this thread even comes close to qualifying as drama. #DontBeSoft

[cold solstice]

we already have drama and ''bad guy''. we dont need more. too much of something is never good

its not about being soft, its about preventing what could obviously happen

[jade linden]

This entire forum is usless

[torpid copper]

Then don't post?

[cold solstice]

he's a T.C he's trying to help and prevent

[jade linden]

My job is to also try to prevent problems ... , and keep everyone happy

[torpid copper]

You can't stop every subjective subject because someone might get their feelings hurt. At some point people gotta grow up and handle some adversity. Life isn't sunshine and rainbows.

[signal moat]

Finally, someone who speaks without fear that not everything is rosy. This server is full of crystals🤣

[jade linden]

You like it or not this is how things work for what i do . I am just preventing heavy future problems, i will keep an eye out in this forum

[torpid copper]

On this we agree 🙂

[wanton drum]

I didn’t know ion was a p.k. News to me

[signal moat]

They take the fun out of the game

[jade linden]

I am TC and not a PK

And i am trying to keep everything possitive

[torpid copper]

In real life you have to have some negativity sir.

[jade linden]

We are not in real life 🙃, either way you guys go on

I am going to leave you

[signal moat]

The positive is boring🗣️

[old vector]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-popcorn-pocorn-chewing-deer-gif-16154809

[compact knot]

👀

[tiny burrow]

Negativity is pointless and everything can be taken positively in some way.

[sonic grove]

gios good at following meta. Medusa idk, played him twice when he was leaning hard into locust exploit, was never impressed. rnnad always impressive and doesnt crutch on meta like the others

[sonic grove]

lmao why

[old vector]

This is agree too

What bout me sur? 🧐🧐

[sonic grove]

best shredder user ive ever seen

[old vector]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1405634691125477429/1455390124639518811/ezgif-76e0e1136992cb1b.gif

[sonic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/shredder-tmnt-animation-teenage-ninja-turtle-gif-10902244

[old vector]

Nah, but you good to on your strategy team play

[winter lynx]

Cause he’s the bestest player in the whole wide world.

[sonic grove]

true

its not ego tho

[tiny burrow]

He's just him

[winter lynx]

He’s literally him.

John 1v6.

[sonic grove]

just say ur him and boom, u become him

did that fight even happen?

[winter lynx]

Destroyer of unranked.

[winter lynx]

It was a 1v3 I think (of course other players may have ended up in the match. Idk)

[sonic grove]

had to go so i didnt witniss it, hopefully destroyer links the vid lol

[tiny burrow]

Ended in a bit of tears and sweat

Man grammarly is free

[sonic grove]

battle of the egos

[winter lynx]

I think he blamed his team and got upset at the enemy squad playing as a squad. Lmao

[tiny burrow]

Bro wanted them to line up and do 1v1s in his tanks lol

Throw themselves at him

[sonic grove]

"i can 1v6".. wait.. but only if my team does the work too

[sonic grove]

kekw

[winter lynx]

“Yall didn’t 1v1 me” essentially. Bro… the whole reason we did this is cause you said you could take on a full top player squad. 😭

[sonic grove]

alright guys, so yk how the entire point of my role is to trade hp & dmg with you evenly? well, now im going to 1v1 you so that you dont get to use any skill at all and instead have to trade poorly with my meta tank. im better. oh and its not ego

[tiny burrow]

Even a normal squad I doubt, let alone top squad. Sure the ping was high for them but that's already too far stretched

[tiny burrow]

It's not ego if it's real ahh statement

[winter lynx]

Doesn’t matter how good you are. Even a 1v2 isn’t possible if the 2 are decent players.

[sonic grove]

genuinely i thought i had a bad ego when i was his age but hoooly

[tiny burrow]

It's very hard

Not the only one with that ego, just the loudest one

[sonic grove]

very true

lets be real destroyer clearly suffers from the same

[tiny burrow]

Absolutely

[sonic grove]

just check his bio

[winter lynx]

Don’t know him so 🤷‍♂️

[tiny burrow]

Many have the ego issues, some are just more visible

[sonic grove]

weve all suffered from it to some extent at some point i think

[tiny burrow]

Even I do have some

[winter lynx]

I know a lot of people here feel like they’re on top of the world, though.

[tiny burrow]

I get pissed when some camper outplays me lol, that's pride right there

[sonic grove]

One of the best players in WRF
Trusted Contributor For WRF Server

[winter lynx]

I just haven’t interacted much with him is all.

[winter lynx]

Had a roach player kill me in unranked… I couldn’t let them grow an ego.

[tiny burrow]

Lmao I hard focus them

The only thing they are scared of tho more than anything are mines lol

[winter lynx]

They weren’t very aware of pursuers, so it was rather easy.

[sonic grove]

my favorite is counter picking ravanas with my siren-shoulder incinerator build. that way when they die they go "damn, i died to a 40k hp shoulder"

[tiny burrow]

I use my bugger mostly for cockroaches, it deletes them as it is an ares itself and with Blink? No running hehehe

Lol Siren is actually quite nice

I stacked some Kate defensive skills on it and it's genuenly hard to kill

[sonic grove]

yeah literally every part of siren is goated

[tiny burrow]

You can really tell a difference between a lvl 13 Siren shoulder and lvl 1

[winter lynx]

I see ares torso and anansi chassis and hard focus whatever it is. Even regular ares I focus cause it’s too easy for them to go on a rampage.

[sonic grove]

my recent siren-zenit build has been getting 4-5 combo kills a match too, its great

[sonic grove]

3 of my 4 that i use are all lvl1, unfortunately

[tiny burrow]

Not the smartest thing to focus Hordes, you wanna gang up on it cuz this lil bugger kills Matriarchs in 3s

[tiny burrow]

You gotta try lvl 13 with Maximiser, it actually survives lol

[winter lynx]

My pursuer has nearly the same firepower, so it all comes down to if I’m sneaky enough.

[tiny burrow]

Don't underestimate Ares ability tho. I usually don't 2 clip lighter builds for example, Ares finishes them off

[sonic grove]

maybe eventually, too much salvage for my poor ass

[tiny burrow]

Truth being told

[cold solstice]

make shredders 11 energy. they are way too strong

[winter lynx]

I target ares specifically because they’re so strong. No underestimation. I have to target them or it’s gg for my team.

[old vector]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-side-eye-sus-suspicious-gif-18335173260410894309

[winter lynx]

Can you imagine if they scaled shredder’s power to an 11 energy weapon? Mmmmm, that would be my favorite weapon ever.

[tiny burrow]

Just decrease Ares duration and all is chillies, if you increase cooldown you'll just get more hiding with Scatters

[dry nymph]

4w 11e like tusk so u can only use 3

[compact lagoon]

The worst part is that a TC opened it

Like for real ? What did he think would happen ?

[dry nymph]

The fallen No1 player

[vague brook]

Get out please

[dry nymph]

😭

[old vector]

Make bisectors 7 weight 12 energy

[dry nymph]

Holy hate

[old vector]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-side-eye-sus-suspicious-gif-18335173260410894309

[compact knot]

70 weight 120 energy

[torpid copper]

He thought it would foster discussion and activity. Which it has.

It's a good thread

[compact lagoon]

Nope, it isn't.
Launching community on this debate is never good

Look at what happened with yotty earlier

[torpid copper]

Nothing happened with Yotty that Yotty isn't man enough to handle. I am pretty sure he's doing just fine.

Ya'll gotta stop being so damn soft. This is a FUN conversation, and if it hurts anyone's feelings that they aren't included - then that's on them - not on us for talking about it.

And if you want to be listed then make sure your game play guarantees you'll be listed. Not just versus bots to get to the leaderboard. And not just on beast mode squads.

Be known.

[compact lagoon]

Pfff, I give up ...

[torpid copper]

Another problem with some generations 🙂

[compact lagoon]

A problem with online mentality. No matter how much you argue, people won't ever change. Wether I lose time to answer you. It won't serve no purpose since you won't even consider my point.

And I've seen that many time on this server and many other.

If you truly believe doing this sort of channel is doing anything good to the community, good for you.
But not to me. And I just don't need to lose time on a talk that will have no end.

[wanton drum]

its quite simple dont be in this forum

the only reason i think this article is fine for being up. is that it introduces people to try harder and be better

[wary tangle]

Try harder and be better for what purpose ? Showing your pp and say you are top 25 in a 1k player game ? 🤣

At least if there was a big community fine i can understand the point, but on each servers we fight the same people again and again

[wanton drum]

its min maxing builds and improving your strategies on the field. most casuals wont understand that. but other people do like that

[torpid copper]

That's not an online mentality that's human nature. And just because you bring up your points doesn't mean people are going to accept or agree with them.

Discussion is not arguing. And ya'll are afraid of discussion because it might be tense blah blah. Shit that's normal.

If it's not good for you, you have the control to not be in it. So just stop reading the thread. Problem solved.

[torpid copper]

Life should be a competition. Whether it's sports, job performance, etc.

You should strive to be the best. Always looking to Improve and be better. Don't settle. You shouldn't be okay getting dog walked by people.

Learn from it. Adapt. Copy it. Practice etc.

That applies to everything from gaming to relationships to jobs to schools etc.

[wanton drum]

this is true! whenever I'm playing talented opponents i learn their play style and then fight around how they play. that's how i usually end up getting gud XD

[dry nymph]

Holy yap thread

[wanton drum]

shhhh lady!

[compact lagoon]

Not quite... Not everything has to ... But with that mentality and how loud you want to be, surely that's what you come up with.

[compact lagoon]

Not because it might be tense. I avoid thing cause I have better things to do that discuss pointless stuff with you. You have your opinion, I have mine.

Still, a TC should know such thread isn't the greatest idea.

[wanton drum]

Why are you so soft when it comes to competition?

[torpid copper]

Life is a competition. It's literally how evolution and survivability exist in the natural world. It's in your DNA. Well maybe not your DNA but everyone else's

[wanton drum]

do better gooder

[torpid copper]

A TC should know this will create activity, discussion and content. It's exactly what a TC should be doing.

And again if you don't like it, you control your own actions. Just don't open this thread. Voila! Fixed

[compact lagoon]

First it is not a competitive game. Otherwise content wouldn't be locked behind a paywall.

Secondly this is just a talk, and a one that can create a bit of a mess, on a community discord

But if you love being petty and be a douchebag to other ... Eh ...

[compact lagoon]

If you believe life is a competition, your life must not be happy.

[wanton drum]

I’m just curious, and it is a competitive game it’s 6v6 PvP

If it was pve it would be non competitive

[wanton drum]

Well technically life’s a competition as well your competing to pay bills on time, buying new things getting a house.

Also technically your in a competitive argument right now saying this isn’t a competitive game

@compact lagoon

[vague brook]

you're*

[torpid copper]

My life is amazing. Thanks for asking 🙂

[wanton drum]

https://tenor.com/view/big-clive-bigclivedotcom-beard-shaking-beard-wavy-gif-5028770890326030523

[torpid copper]

It is a competitive game. The objective is literally to beat the opposing team. That's the definition of a skill based competition.

Nothing is locked behind a paywall - you can just get early access by paying. But literally everything that can be bought with money can be gotten free with time and playing.

[wanton drum]

I have a real question though

Do you think there is a hidden mmr?

[torpid copper]

The talk doesn't create a mess. The talk should create competition. And give people to talk to, ask about builds, tactics, learn from.

If you take anything other than that then it's a you issue.

If people get upset they aren't on the list. Then they need to find their big boy pants

[compact lagoon]

It's a game... It's meant to be played ... To have fun ...

[torpid copper]

What's an MMR?

[torpid copper]

Maybe if you are a child, I can agree.

[compact lagoon]

Sorry for you man .. truly ..

[wanton drum]

A hidden numerical score for players on match making

[compact lagoon]

If you don't have fun playing and you see it as paying your bills 🤷

[torpid copper]

They keep score.
There is a winner and a loser.

There are rewards for winning.
There is a leaderboard.

This is a competitive game.

[torpid copper]

Don't be. I'm sorry you don't actually experience life and just float thru it

[torpid copper]

Oh. Wish there was. It would make it better.

[wanton drum]

To be honest I think there is

[torpid copper]

I have fun playing. And being competitive. I work for in investment banking (there now). So gaming is not a job.

But I do get such joy of crushing skinny Jean wearing, craft beer drinking punks. This is true.

[compact lagoon]

The ranked is being played by most as a casual game

The casual mode is a ghost

The matchmaking is ass

This game is a draft of a good game

This is a casual game to have fun, not a competitive
It'll become competitive when ranked are well done and that 90% of plat+ aren't made of retarted players that can't do shyt but complain on the community discord or complain about aim assist

[torpid copper]

Nah then we'd never see bronze on the other side.

[wanton drum]

Well could be under certain parameters

[compact lagoon]

There is, and I don't think it's that bad

The skill difference and gear difference amongst a matchmaking is what causes the look that it's not

[torpid copper]

No argument that casuals play ranked. That should stop and quitter penalties need to be severe and Include banning from ranked.

Matchmaking is ass. Also agreed.

But even with bad matchmaking I'm gonna smack whoever is on the other side. I used to say go easy on the Lower level - give them a free kill. But no more.

[compact lagoon]

This is lead due to how the grouping works

[compact lagoon]

The ranked game mod rn isn't a ranked game mode ... It's literally casual game mode, but you get points as a reward 🤣

Seeing how bad leagues work rn

And how your league does not matter

[torpid copper]

Nah is disagree. I made an alt account a while ago to help people level. And I get 10-14 kills a game regularly in lower levels with factory bots at level 1 because i understand the game mechanics and movement more

[torpid copper]

Grouping sucks too for sure. But that's just matchmaking is ass

[wanton drum]

Could be you haven’t built the mmr on that account

[torpid copper]

It literally is a ranked mode, with a leaderboard.

Just because a lot of punks treat it as a casual mode doesn't make it not a ranked competition mode.

The reason it's treated as casual is because there was no unranked mode for many many months, and the devs made the moronic decision to limit the maps and shit in the unranked mode.

[torpid copper]

Possible. It is still silver I think.

[compact lagoon]

That is wrong though ...

Matchmaking does what he's told to

But groups, elite players and lack of player make it look bad

[wanton drum]

soo no mmr confirmed by melissa

[sonic grove]

^

[sonic grove]

Its definitely not a competitive game

[wanton drum]

Do you not fight people?

[sonic grove]

Paywalled content & progression

[sonic grove]

Fighting players doesnt make it competitive

[wanton drum]

Ermmmm

[sonic grove]

This is a pretty casual game you just have some ppl with big egos that like spending money for ranked

[wanton drum]

6 people fight against 6 people to win

[torpid copper]

Only for the non competitive people.

And since you cry more than most about stuff clearly you care about the competition. Right? We'd never see posts about nerfs if it was for fun. Noone would cry about p2w if it wasn't competitive.

If it was for fun you'd enjoy it

[wanton drum]

That’s competing

[sonic grove]

You get trophies from bot matches lmao, its not competitive at all

[torpid copper]

It's got a scoreboard.
They declare a winner each match. And those winners get rewards.

There is a leaderboard.

It's entirely based on competition.

Noone drops Intk the game to emote. And have a tea party.

[sonic grove]

Sorry that you think fighting bots for trophies is competitive

Rank has never meant anything in this game you said so yourself

[torpid copper]

Noone but the hos want to fight bot matches. (PC users who turn off cross play). But it's still a competitive game

[sonic grove]

Emoting is not the only other side of the ven diagram with “competitiveness”

[wanton drum]

@torpid copper when people here the word competition or competitive they automatically think ea sports type or cs go tournaments.

That’s why a lot people say this game isn’t “competitive”

[torpid copper]

That is correct. The current system is more based on how much you play as opposed to a real leaderboard. But that doesn't change the game is based on competition

[compact lagoon]

thank u sur , goddamn

[sonic grove]

Life is competition is such a sad take on life, no wonder you can’t see anything else

[torpid copper]

Maybe? Or maybe they were in the band or played DnD growing up. And just never played sports? Or competed in any measureable way?

[wanton drum]

Right, idk I was taught that whatever I do. Do it to the best of my ability. Lmaooooo

[torpid copper]

I mean if you want to settle for less, be less and have a lesser life that's on you

[sonic grove]

Oh my life is fine lmao

Im not trying to compare my life to everyone elses to make mine feel better

Thats just silly

[tiny burrow]

isnt this about game, why bringing life into this? Judging much?

[wanton drum]

Your going out of context lol

[sonic grove]

🤷‍♂️

[torpid copper]

I blame sadly our generation. We raised these kids.

Participation trophies and kindergarten graduations and crap

[tiny burrow]

judgements full on, someone has an ego, how sad

[wanton drum]

lol my kids generation is the next one coming XD

[compact lagoon]

okay, i play board games for fun

Of course i like to take a win
But i wouldn't spend 3h+ on it if it was just for competitive reason

You do many things in life that isn't competitive
And if you don't, god damn i wouldn't want to know you.

[tiny burrow]

imagine being trapped in a mind of a child

[sonic grove]

Fr

Very sad

Some ppl never grow up and make everything about themselves unfortunately

[wanton drum]

This why us is taking Greenland.

[tiny burrow]

gotta be painful, age defo does not mean experience too. Not everyone that drives, drives well. Not everyone that is learning, learns it

[torpid copper]

I never asked about your life. I just told you. Literally I don't think about your life. Ever.

Nor do I compare mine to others. But job performance. I won't be 2nd. Refuse to be 2nd and if I fall to second ill fix it. Because I don't settle

[sonic grove]

“Life is competition”

[torpid copper]

Nothing wrong with an ego sir.

[wanton drum]

I’m a flate rate tech so I have to be competitive in life XD

[sonic grove]

Oh

Ok clearly this is going nowhere

[tiny burrow]

pride comes before fall.

[torpid copper]

Well that explains it. 3H on board game. You didn't have a social life growing up did you? Stranger things is like a Biopic?

[wanton drum]

Competitive argueing at its finest XD

[torpid copper]

This is true.

[wary tangle]

Said the one that is arguing for hours loool

[wanton drum]

It’s called being competitive

[wary tangle]

Yes i saw that

[compact lagoon]

me no like that so other people is wrong 🤡

[torpid copper]

Life is competition.
Literally everything you've ever done - you've competed for.

Grades in school.
Jobs you interview for.
Raises you get.
Your life is about competition.

[compact lagoon]

some parts are, not all of it

[sonic grove]

Go argue with your brother about who won at life better instead

[tiny burrow]

I won my race, I got born, now I can chill with my trophy hehehe

[wanton drum]

Mans got the victory!

[compact lagoon]

who ?

[tiny burrow]

the fastest cell at the time

[sonic grove]

Guess, the old farts

[cold solstice]

Why do you always blame our generation to help your point ? Being older than us doesnt make your point better

[torpid copper]

You see are a clown. Swirlies and wedgies you grew up on?

We need to being back hazing. Toughen you little kids up.

[sonic grove]

The competitive bot farmers

[tiny burrow]

or makes it credible which is the attempt from what I can see

[torpid copper]

Okay. I used too broad a brush there. I agree.

[compact lagoon]

better to do that with other people than drinking liters of alcohol and calling that a party, but ight :/

[wanton drum]

Noo the generation is kinda soft

[wary tangle]

The top 1 in the S2 was only playing vs bots, but because he was first its the best player in the S2 in the whole game right ?

[torpid copper]

I was a mono amniotic twin, he was stillborn. So I guess I won that.

[tiny burrow]

all I see is a bunch of fragile egos wrecked. Ego is for the weak

[sonic grove]

I mean unfortunately this is life for some, they have to compare themselves to others. They cant just have fun. They have to be winning at fun lmao

[torpid copper]

Are a cancer to this game. Yes.

[cold solstice]

But everytime someone disagree with someone younger or with something from a young people it has to blame the entire generation

Lol

[sonic grove]

And unfortunately these people become parents

[sonic grove]

No use arguing, hes incapable of using reason

[wanton drum]

Well I blame the liberals too but I can see your point

[torpid copper]

Because your generation has an objectively measurable movement to less achievements and tendency to settle. Taking easy roads and expecting more for doing less.

[tiny burrow]

child is the product of a parenthood, so guess where we go, back at them again. Time to look at the mirror lol

[sonic grove]

Lmao

[cold solstice]

And now politics

[wanton drum]

I rage bait people if you guys haven’t noticed

[sonic grove]

Your just a clown mate

A real life clown

[wanton drum]

It’s called competitive entertainment for me

[sonic grove]

Nah, its clowning

[tiny burrow]

why is this chat not moderated?

[cold solstice]

We literally get paid less than the cost of life is compared to the time of our parents and grandparents.

[wanton drum]

Symantec’s is a hell of a word!

[sonic grove]

Go compare yourself to your family instead if everything has to be competitive

[torpid copper]

No pretty much everyone called him out for playing bots.

Noone respects bot farmers. And we had several posts and feedback suggestions on adjusting trophy awards based on strength of team vs strength of opponents with bots resulting in the lowest strength score so you wouldn't gain as. much rewards for a win

[sonic grove]

Semantic?

[wanton drum]

Yeah phone bested me right there lol

1-0

[tiny burrow]

💀

[torpid copper]

A common phrase of losers

[wary tangle]

Atleast this post is very entertaining to read

[tiny burrow]

says the old head arguing with people half his age, nice try sir

[wanton drum]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-monkey-gif-17161736773310556283

[torpid copper]

I literally said I blamed ourselves for you guys a few posts ago. Reading is fundamental.

[tiny burrow]

so is being humble

humility is not taught these days?

ig its a new term

[sonic grove]

Funny argument

[cold solstice]

Meh. Its very childish and war beetween ideology

[wanton drum]

It’s not

[quasi comet]

ok, this thread wasn't meant to become a place for drama and a mess. locking it.