BUFF HP of Harpy torso, it is a JOKE currently

[dim inlet]

BUFF HP of Harpy torso, it is a JOKE currently

I think buffing the HP of Harpy torso would be needed. It is a joke currently. It has 52.800 HP at level 13 weighing 13! For example other torsos of the same weight have way more durability.For example Orochi with 8 weight has 51.700 HP 😄

[ionic shell]

You do real their class right?

They’re

[dim inlet]

Then change the weight of it

I don't care, nobody is using it, for a reason ...

You made this build, and posted it to a server, so I won't expect you to understand why Harpy is weak currently 😄

11 weight

[ionic shell]

Harpy is weak but thats on propose, it’s not a brawler. It’s a sniper.

Are you a console player or sum?

[dim inlet]

9 weight

[dim inlet]

Lol, nah pc

I was top 60 a week ago by only doing the daily missions every day 😄

[ionic shell]

Thats surprising, this is the type of stuff low ranks say

[dim inlet]

Yes, yet you start posting useless crap on servers XDD

[ionic shell]

Or people that don’t know the balancing

[dim inlet]

Wow, you are really smart

🙂

[ionic shell]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/811753572609556501/1242027714521731155/speed.gif

[dim inlet]

Yes, Harpy with 52.800 hp is amazing for 13 weight 🙂

[ionic shell]

I can’t tell if you’re ragebaiting to actually being genuine

[dim inlet]

Lol, why is it that always the stupid players have the biggest mouth?

Dude posting builds like this then starts yapping about me

Tf

[ionic shell]

Soul save me

Please xd

[dim inlet]

I'm sorry I won't continue doing this, I am not a fat idiot reading dc all day 😄

[opaque pier]

This could have been a very productive thread, as Harpy does stand out weight wise.

Let's keep this on topic and not turn this into a flame war @dim inlet

[ionic shell]

Why are you insulting me im trying to figure out why you think need more hp, they aren’t frontliners!

[foggy stirrup]

Wouldn't the weight come from the heavy weapon mount and napalm bombs inside?

[ionic shell]

-# Also soul I’m trying not to egg it on, sorry if I am.

[dim inlet]

It makes it very weak, needs a little love. Either reduce mass or increase HP

[tranquil talon]

unlike orochi and siren harpy does have a heavy weapon its ability is why its bad even tho its low cooldown

[opaque pier]

If we look at other points of reference we can see Sirin as a 11w 1 light slot Toros, so it should follow that Harpy, having to pay the "heavy slot tax" should be 12w.

Harpy being 13w is very odd.

[tranquil talon]

12w would be nice wouldn’t keep it from being unused tho

[dim inlet]

Yes, 12 would be right for this amount of HP

[ionic shell]

Imo if harpy was 12w there would be some builds that would get me concerned..

[dim inlet]

How odd, the other guys won't start saying crap, but actually understand why it is weak 😄

[ionic shell]

Can you stop antagonizing please, you’re an adult.

[foggy stirrup]

Getting 1 weight knocked off would be nice
I just figured it was for balancing reasons

[opaque pier]

@dim inlet and @ionic shell let's just move on and keep it on topic.

[ionic shell]

I forgot the few builds that would be possible if harpy had 12w like the x3 heavy weapon builds

[dim inlet]

Sorry, I just can't stand people who don't know shit, yet who are always trying to prove everyone why what was said is stupid, while being bad and clueless in the game

[ionic shell]

If it was 12w then you would be able to run gears you shouldn’t have.

[dim inlet]

Then questioning the knowledge of others, who actually play at much higher levels

[dim inlet]

Yes, but you have very low hp, so its a sacrifice

[opaque pier]

Yeah, I don't see Harpy being 12w that big of an issue, sure you be a bit faster with more firepower, but you'd still have a paper thin torso.

[dim inlet]

Yes

[ionic shell]

With a heavy slot

Theres no 12w torsos with a heavy slot

Im a bit concerned by that

[ionic shell]

Trying! ;-;

[dim inlet]

I don't give a crap about this guy, it was just so funny to me that I got a message on it instantly, and it was such a clueless one, who instantly started to question my knowledge 😄

I don't care, he can say whatever he wants, I am off. Let's hope devs will do something about Harpy

[foggy stirrup]

Hellburner would be interesting
Though it still might be 13 if it were added

[opaque pier]

First time for everything, lol.

Plus, it would be more in line with the class's weight range.

13w puts it up with Assaults and Defenders.

[ionic shell]

True

X3 thunder harpy might be able to run heavier shoulders

Or X3 horde

Thats the few im concerned about

[foggy stirrup]

I also want to see heavy slot flanker shoulders

[ionic shell]

Not even to mention the heavy sniper weapons!

[ionic shell]

Idk what that is

[foggy stirrup]

It's from mobile
It explodes

[ionic shell]

Idk why people say harpy ability is weak? Why?? It feels fine

[ionic shell]

Oh

Suicide bomb

[tranquil talon]

Just meh compared everything else imo

[willow lily]

its actually a very good ability imo

it simply requires skill

[ionic shell]

Ive been using it sense release it feels like a good ability, you just gotta know how to aim it to get the good dot!

[ionic shell]

Literally

Ive used it for way too long

Its a good camper hurting tool before pushes

Great for sending into a tightly knitted camping group to remove shields

[willow lily]

you can also cripple lighter mechs if you hit a ton of the napalm bombs directly

[ionic shell]

I see why people would want harpy 12w but thats a big buff. Plus you would be able to run better shoulders than you already can

Or.. um..

Maybe triple zeus

I can’t check

[opaque pier]

Triple Zeus would be too heavy even for a 12w Harpy.

49w and 42e for that.

Nothing even comes close to being able to run that.

Can't do triple Zenit either.

55w and 30e

Ravana is close but would need 2 more e.

So still safe

[brave venture]

Napalm is a powerful tool on a low cooldown (which itself presents extra power via Charge Loop), and importantly, has a heavy weapon mount.

[ionic shell]

Ah.

[ionic shell]

Zenit would actually be good if that was the case xd

[brave venture]

Cyclops has a lot more armor, but also has a much longer cooldown ability that requires you to remain exposed for several seconds while it's firing, and has relatively limited range.

Harpy can just peek out, launch the ability, and immediately take cover again. Missed shots matter less, too, since you'll have it ready again in very little time.

Miss, or even just make a poor target choice with the Cyclops deathray, and would be regretting it for the next 2 to 3 business days.

[rancid bronze]

Have we finally explained how balancing works to this guy? I don't want to read through all of that.

[light ember]

Making harpy the first 12W heavy wep carrying torso would be a win for the tacticians

I really support making it lighter.

[ionic shell]

The noch?

[rancid bronze]

the op

[ionic shell]

Would make tactician builds easier to design

[ionic shell]

Oh

Idk why I never thought about making harpy 12w, I always just built around the torso weight