many players have full hangers of invisble flaimers, making the game like turbo battles, but perferably makes it frustrating to new players. to counter persuer invisibility. if the persuer is not hit the invisibility stays on. but upon geting hit the cloaking wares off.
#Persuer fix
iron pebble
minor pecan
the silhouette of a pursuer is decently easy to see. You wont be able to target specific components, but simply hitting it is really easy to do. I would recommend allowing lock-ons (ghost turret, flashbang, and vortex for example) to still hit an invisible pursuer.
would still allow it to be powerful, but being hard to hit and impervious to certain weapons and gear is too much
river wyvern
Allowing locks with vortex would allow it to be pinged or called out and reveal its position. Not a good idea.
minor pecan
Allowing locks with vortex would allow it to be pinged or called out and reveal ...
Something can obviously be done to prevent pinging, but the issue lies in how griffins entire purpose is preventing lock on, and adding resistance. Being not only hard to see, but impervious to certain weapons is too much for something so light and fast like pursuer
cloud plover
4 lighters + pursuer is near impossible to counter, you are dead before you would know where he is. And most meta slaves have 3+ in plat + rank. Stealth flamers are abusive. Devs don't know how to balance things.
Stealth being an offensive and defensive tool at the same time is too op.
broken zephyr
Stealth being an offensive and defensive tool at the same time is too op.
It’s not a defensive tool. It’s quite easy to see, especially if you were just looking at them.
cloud plover
It’s not a defensive tool. It’s quite easy to see, especially if you were just l...
Wdym? You cannot ping or target a specific part which helps with survivability. Easy to see? No, especially when engaged with another enemy. Also only an idiot invis after being seen by an enemy lol. Smart players use cloak before engaging lol.
broken zephyr
Wdym? You cannot ping or target a specific part which helps with survivability. ...
Exactly. It's not going to be used for defense. Even if you cannot target parts, you can still see the outline and general shape, allowing you to have a decent chance at hitting where you want. And you're not using it defensively if your target is engaged with another enemy, that's an offensive use. That's its main purpose, as an offensive tool to catch people off gaurd if you can sneak up on them.
cloud plover
Exactly. It's not going to be used for defense. Even if you cannot target parts,...
Actually, I did successfully used it as a defensive tool getting away from enemies doing wave dash and cloak. It really depends on how you use it but for me it works offensively and defensively.
broken zephyr
Actually, I did successfully used it as a defensive tool getting away from enemi...
It can be used defensively. However I’d hazard to call it good in both scenarios.
cloud plover
It can be used defensively. However I’d hazard to call it good in both scenarios...
Then don't use it defensively, its your call.
zenith pendant
It’s not a defensive tool. It’s quite easy to see, especially if you were just l...
They really are that easy to see
cloud plover
They really are that easy to see
Yes, but the point of invi flamers is they get the sneak attack in close range.
zenith pendant
Get better eyes
void stream
I think the invis should become pingable as soon as they attack.
cloud plover
On console, The shimmer that you see is the delay of 1-2 seconds to go full invisible. Maybe you can see on pc if you set up graphics settings i dont know but when they go full invi its hard to see when they are moving.
void stream
At a distance, maybe 100m or more, if you didn't already see them moving, you won't see one standing idle. Now, I've watched one cast invis, move the entire time, and become visable again, kept pinging his location the entire time and calling it out on voice. Other times, I'll see him cast invis, move behind a building, and never see him till he's on top of me. It's almost inconsistent how well it works.
cloud plover
At a distance, maybe 100m or more, if you didn't already see them moving, you wo...
Some smart invi flamer users jump and stay in the air and they are nearly impossible to pinpoint.
misty agate
It just depends on the background, sometimes it’s harder to see depending on them being in front of a building or in the air
Especially on spectrum, can’t see anything in the air on that map
karmic schooner
Best fix would be make ability better visible in worst conditions or always
zenith pendant
It’s already super easy to see. And you’re supposed to invisible
And that’s the point of the ability, TOO BE INVISIBLE
Not to been seen by everyone, because then it’s not even considered invisibility at that point
woven grail
It’s not a defensive tool. It’s quite easy to see, especially if you were just l...
Ita not its to op and i cant wait for your nerf they nerfed siren into the ground now its time for pursuer invisibility needs to come off after you shoot or a second or 2 after you shoot the cooldown is way to low and it lasts to long to not go out after being shot or shooting
woven grail
And that’s the point of the ability, TOO BE INVISIBLE
Invisibility does not work like this in any other game its broken
zenith pendant
It’s not a defensive tool. It’s quite easy to see, especially if you were just l...
This is factual information.
If you can see the damn robot, that’s your problem, not the games. Get better eyes
👁️👁️
zenith pendant
Invisibility does not work like this in any other game its broken
Yes, it does…
woven grail
No it does not
zenith pendant
What console do you play on?
woven grail
Im not referring to wrf any game in general does not work like this
woven grail
What console do you play on?
This does not matter any other game invisibility does notbwork like this
zenith pendant
It kinda does
If you play on a low resolution console Like a ps4, then that’s your problem
woven grail
Therebshouldbbe no reason i should run into the amount of pursuer torsos everyone abuses the torso
woven grail
If you play on a low resolution console Like a ps4, then that’s your problem
Ahh yes attack me cause you cant comprehend that your torso is broken
zenith pendant
I said “IF”
woven grail
I have a ps5 and 70 inch samsung
zenith pendant
Only 70?
woven grail
Yep only 70
zenith pendant
You’re telling me I shouldn’t have seen him then?
Cause by the sounds of it, y’all are gonna say, “YES, @zenith pendant YOU SHOULDN’T HAVE SEEN HIM”
slender kestrel
Why I usually dont like invisibility:
Its very aquad to balance because good players will usually see them and that makes invisibility useless so its basically a seal clubbing tool
Most good players will start fiddling with the video settings to see invisible players better and sacrificing game quality for it
Its also a client side thing so there is not much stopping you from just replacing the shader thats executed for invisible players making it easy to effectively cheat and no anticheat ever is able to detect that
Invisibility should be a more mechanical thing and less a visual cheatable thing for example:
You are still decently visible like with scramble but
Once invisibility is active you can nolonger see the enemy robots health
and can nolonger be targeted by lockon wearpons
and for every 100 meters you are away from the enemy you take 7% less damage up to a cap of 50% kinda simulating worse hit capabilities this would make invisibility a great option for traversing long range invested areas
zenith pendant
That’s how you make an argument people
woven grail
That’s how you make an argument people
So you admit it needs to be changed its too powerful amd you were wrong but you didnt like the way someone said it got it you hear that people
zenith pendant
🤦♂️
I complimented his argument
Because it’s a good argument, with actual points, evidence and information, not just, “yes” and “no”
When did I agree with him?
woven grail
🤦♂️
Sure bro go on about stuff you are literally on everyones post calling others clowns 🤡 i think you should look in the mirror
Pursuer is still op and needs a nerf to it in some way
zenith pendant
Sure bro go on about stuff you are literally on everyones post calling others cl...
That’s a face palm…
woven grail
That’s a face palm…
Nice i like how you took the clown react away
Wow
Argue with yourself dude
zenith pendant
You must be seeing things
zenith pendant
But as you can see in the video, you can clearly see the “invisible” person
It’s not that “OP” as people claim it is
woven grail
But as you can see in the video, you can clearly see the “invisible” person
Naw you know what you did but ok im done cant with people like you and it is it also turns peoples shots invisible at times it needs to be adjusted
zenith pendant
That’s an actual problem (the invisible shots)
ember thistle
Magneto should "magnet" in a close range.
wraith solstice
Simple fix - Pursuers should take 3x damage while invisible. I didn't care until the Siren nerft, which one could argue was the counter to the pursuer’s invisibility. Since then, it’s been a pursuer seal clubbing fest.
misty agate
Cyclops thread all over again
sinful thunder
We gonna be out here playing whackamole till all our mechs strugglin to crawl out the hanger and slap each other