Sandboxels Bunker Break-In Challenge

[dusky needle]

This is the Bunker Challenge. You gain points for every valuable pixel you bring into a claiming area.
POINT VALUES-
Diamond: 100
Gold: 75
Silver: 50
Iron: 25
Copper: 10
Other metals: 1

Pixels that have been converted into a valuable element will not count for score.
Pixels generated by your machine will not count for score.
Melted versions of metals will count for 80% of their price, so maybe freeze them?

Your build must be contained within a claiming area. The top claiming area does not give a bonus to your score. The one to the left of the bunker will give you + 250 bonus points.
Your build will also have a cost.
Vanilla pixels - 0.10
Vanilla machines - 1
Modded basic machines (delay, pipe variants, logic) - 5
Modded advanced machines (ray emitters, pistons, converters) - 30
If you are unsure about how much an element costs, ask nousernamefound, and a cost will be assigned.

Your goal? Steal as much as possible, don't activate the alarm (-500 score), and keep your machine as cheap as possible.
Bonus points awarded for cool looking machines. Bonus points awarded for interesting stealing methods.
The only user actions permitted are building your build within the provided spaces, while the game is paused. Once you have done that, the results of what your machine does is how you are scored.
You may not use any tools on anything outside of the build spaces.

It is HEAVILY encouraged to use mods. Like, I don't really see how you could do this without mods.

Prize: You tell me. Anything I deem reasonable. Example: I mod in an element of your choice.
The contest will likely last a few months, so don't worry about running out of time.

[wheat garden]

hmm

[dusky needle]

btw u are allowed to replace the pointer while building ur machine

the pointer is included within build bounds

you may use both build areas but you will not get the bonus points

make sure to send a message here if ur interested/planning to compete

cool opportunity to learn more about modded machines! even if u dont manage to steal much, every submission will be appreciated

[night scarab]

im doing a thing

[upper pollen]

time to try this (i have no idea what like 90% of the elements in nousersthings.js even do

[dusky needle]

u can use machines from any mod

they may have different prices

[night scarab]

2396.6 points according to what my calculations say (25 diamonds collected, 341 wall, 1 wire, 1 battery, 1 void drill from my drill mod (im gonna assume its 30) 1 portal, 7 out portals and 1 piston

[dusky needle]

hmm

send me the save so i can verify

[night scarab]

ok

[dusky needle]

i,,, meant the save,, before u activated

[night scarab]

oh

i uh

forgot to save it

[dusky needle]

oh okay

anyways i spotted a small error within the save

i will fix it and republish

[night scarab]

ok

[safe pollen]

I might try this

[dusky needle]

to clarify for all future people competing
you will send me the save file from BEFORE you unpause
i will use this to determine the cost and score of ur machine

[upper pollen]

cloners are allowed right

[upper pollen]

and the security system only counts as triggered if the bomb detonates?

[dusky needle]

yes

well if the e-cloner makes any bombs

thats a triggered security system

[dusky needle]

yes

cloning valuables wont count towards score

cloned elements wont count towards price since they are made after u "buy" the materials needed to make ur machine

[upper pollen]

im gonna try to do this unmodded because idk why not

[dusky needle]

wow ok

[uncut perch]

I can do this

err... does this count

I can do better but like

if it counts

[dusky needle]

technically that counts as some successful theft

send the save and ill judge it

[uncut perch]

er...

So I used the specificpistonrayemmiter from your mod

but in the save you have to re-setup it

so...

[dusky needle]

save it correctly then

idk

[uncut perch]

No like no matter what you have to

[dusky needle]

why

[uncut perch]

it just works that way ig

[dusky needle]

it shouldn't

[uncut perch]

huh

[dusky needle]

you're either telling me my mod is broken or u dont know how to use it

somehow

[uncut perch]

I've only tested it with the local save files

[dusky needle]

i have no clue what u could be doing wrong to make it so pistons have to be re-set-up every time u load

[uncut perch]

Ill try and send a video

I'll probably do it later tho

[dusky needle]

okay..

well you also won't be given a score if u can't actually provide me a save

[uncut perch]

ik

It doesn't work the second time where I load it ||@dusky needle||

[dusky needle]

right i see the problem

you need to step forward ONE tick, and then save it

[uncut perch]

oh thx

I knew I was doing something wrong

Submission. I don know how many points but I can calculate the cost for you

[dusky needle]

i will be doing all the calculating

[uncut perch]

oh alright

but the height of it is 25 pixels in case you wanted to know

[dusky needle]

overall, this is what you collected

pixelCounter = {}
for (_pixel in currentPixels){
    if (!pixelCounter[currentPixels[_pixel].element]){
        pixelCounter[currentPixels[_pixel].element] = 1;
    } else {
        pixelCounter[currentPixels[_pixel].element] ++;
    }
}
console.log(pixelCounter)

(for future usage by me)

[dusky needle]

and this is the stuff used in your build

i will now calculate your score

this machine costs 776

you collected 79 + 217 + 21 +141 generic metal, 54 copper, 75 iron, 55 silver, 19 gold, and 43 diamond

11348 worth of valuables, a machine that costed 776

10572 in total

you've gotten a pretty high score

even tho ur machine is simple i think people may struggle to beat it

[uncut perch]

oh no

[dusky needle]

@safe pollen @upper pollen @night scarab @wheat garden pinging yalls cause you showed previous interest

[uncut perch]

By generic metal what do we include

[dusky needle]

steel, galvanized steel, tungsten, and invar

[uncut perch]

maybe just 0

[dusky needle]

i feel like making it just 0 encourages even lazier contraptions with no room to maybe do something interesting with the generic metal collection

but im leaving this up to yalls

and your competitors

because they can just decide to do the same thing as u but slightly more optimized

[uncut perch]

I could still get at least 3544

I have another design is what I mean

[dusky needle]

CURRENT STATS
THREE SUBMISSIONS
RANKINGS:
1: 3RR0R-404 with 10822 points
2. A Crazy Pencil with 9616 points
3: guinea. with 3135.6 points

[worldly sundial]

i,m going to do it

[sage narwhal]

i made a mini reactor and made it go boom boom

[upper pollen]

my contraption is going okay but im having consistency issues

since im using explosives to break the vault

[dusky needle]

sounds fun

can't wait to see it

[uncut perch]

Also do I get the 250 bonus points (not that it matters much)

[dusky needle]

oh right

yes

added

[wheat garden]

imgonna do it in vr

[dusky needle]

what?

[wheat garden]

hmm

that doesn't work

ill try minecraft next

[upper pollen]

no mods but its not the most reliable

[dusky needle]

interesting

ill test it out

very cool method!!!

[upper pollen]

because for some reason a massive destructive pillar of wind gets stopped by a 1 pixel gap

[dusky needle]

ok, i got a run where a pretty good amount of diamonds was sucked in

i will grade it based on that run

you collected 29 diamonds, so thats 2900 money

ill give 500 bonus points cuase this stealing method is cool af

now i will calculate machine cost

this is what ur machine used

i will count emp bombs and portals as vanilla machines

final score of 3135.6 ! not bad

[vocal folio]

i took some inspiration from the other guy but i improved it a bit

[dusky needle]

it seems to be worse actually

nothing is being collected?

i will not grade something that has a negative score

[vocal folio]

what

it works on me

[dusky needle]

only half of the time is the first shield of the bunker broken through

and none of the time is the tungsten protective casing for the diamonds being broken through

[vocal folio]

what

[dusky needle]

haven't seen that happen

ill test more

hmmm...

do u have any mods like debrisable.js?

[vocal folio]

nope

show me recordings of u trying it

[vocal folio]

also it should break everything under it

what

[dusky needle]

another attempt

this one was really weak

[vocal folio]

wait before unpausing check the bomb

there shouldnt be fire also anti matter should break everything

i used antimatter bomb

[dusky needle]

fire + tornado = firenado

yeah the anti matter bomb is loading

its just not doing much

do u have ANY extra mods

that might interfere with weapon strength or material strength

[vocal folio]

thats all i have installed

[dusky needle]

all u managed to collect was dust

even the mechanism to clear non-diamond materials broke

[vocal folio]

what

the bombs should clear non diamond materials

[dusky needle]

i know

but it broke

the cloners are cloning flash instead of emp bomb

[vocal folio]

it does but on mine it still breaks stuff

it doesnt generate flash but the bomb explodes fast when spawned

so it looks like its js spawning flash

wait ur ss does show only flash

what

[vocal folio]

maybe its ur mod

since its not on my mods

maybe u have some physics mods or something like that

[dusky needle]

the only mods i installed to test this are nousersthings.js and logicgates.js

it's something you're doing wrong on your end

[vocal folio]

i can calculate it myself on my game if it really really doenst work

i can tell u the stuff i built

[dusky needle]

i do not want to allow people to calculate it for themselves

please toggle "mods" when saving it

and send that version to me

i suspect one of the mods you have is interfering someway

so i need to see if that's allowed

[vocal folio]

ok

wait i deleted 1 mod and some blocks are now unkown bruh

try it and see if it still works

[upper pollen]

copying me is crazy 🥀

[dusky needle]

ok i suspect one of these mods is interfering with how explosions work somehow

also you forgot to install nousersthings.js and logicgates.js but whatever

also.. your machine is.. destroying the diamonds it collects

because of the antimatter.

so its still negative score

[dusky needle]

bump

[dusky needle]

bump?

[dusky needle]

hello?

[neat pond]

use acid

[dusky needle]

um

acid might. dissolve the valuables?

but feel free to try it

[neat pond]

no

the gold and diamond stayed and other metals ig

[dusky needle]

okay

well

feel free to use that method for ur attempt then

[neat pond]

also can i drag stuff

hmm

[dusky needle]

um

did you

read the rules

[neat pond]

ok

i understand now

[dusky needle]

you can't interact with the bunker at all. it all has to be done by whatever contraption you make

[neat pond]

also how do i steal the metals then

[dusky needle]

use elements that can move them

[neat pond]

any mods you reccomend

[dusky needle]

for example, the first submission used pistons to pull the entire bunker into a collection zone

[dusky needle]

(and people voted that this method shouldn't be penalized so.)

wait the guy who submitted that left the server??

@upper pollen you are currently in the lead now

[neat pond]

what mods are pistons or is it base

[dusky needle]

pistons are in nousersthings.js

which you need for the bunker security system to function

you also need logicgates.js for the bunker security system to function

[neat pond]

how do i use pistons

also i cant find pistons there are only like

emittors

or somethign

[dusky needle]

piston ray emitters

same thing

[neat pond]

how does it work

[dusky needle]

power them from the back with wire or insulated wire

[neat pond]

so it cnat go down

[neat pond]

also how many points did the last guy have

i mean

thebest

[dusky needle]

check pins

[dusky needle]

wdym

[neat pond]

the piston cant push down

[dusky needle]

yes they can

[neat pond]

how

[dusky needle]

they can push or pull in any direction

it depends on what u tell the piston and where u put the wire

[neat pond]

how do i tell it to go down

[dusky needle]

you want the pixels its pushing to go down?

put the wire above the piston

and set the mode to "push"

[neat pond]

oh

heh

i know how i can

get it

[uncut perch]

I'm in server again

someone else deleted all my friends and servers for some weird reason

@dusky needle

[dusky needle]

oh okay welcome back

[uncut perch]

sry about that

[dusky needle]

@upper pollen u are no longer in first place (again)

[dusky needle]

bump

[violet light]

teardown

[dense coyote]

Wonder what mods could potentially have gamebreaking consequences for this

[dusky needle]

i will introduce higher cost for elements/mods that make it too easy

[violet light]

like an element that teleports all the valuables to the area

[dusky needle]

if someone were to make an element that does that specifically

then yes i would make it absurdly expensive to use

[violet light]

portal is considered vanilla and would cost as much right

[dusky needle]

portal will not have heavy penalties because it still takes effort to move the pixel into the portal or vice versa

portal will be priced as a vanilla machine - 1 per pixel

[dense coyote]

Is this the most recent version

[dusky needle]

yes

[dense coyote]

What happens if your save is nondeterministic?

Do you just get an average value of multiple runs

[violet light]

nouser

question

[dusky needle]

i will run it multiple times and keep the best run

[violet light]

could i make a mod

that make things evaporate

[dusky needle]

like, boil?

[violet light]

yea

[dusky needle]

boilable materials?

[violet light]

yea

[dense coyote]

oh i thought it would be an average

[violet light]

and then freeze the valuables

[dusky needle]

sure, you could do that

i will add a cost penalty for using it, but you can probably make up for it with the amount you can collect

[violet light]

i could hypothetically vaporize the safe, wait for everything to float to the collection zone, then freeze everything

[dusky needle]

yes, you could do that

[violet light]

if i did that would the bonus points make up for the penalty

[dusky needle]

bonus points ?

u mean the

Bonus points awarded for cool looking machines. Bonus points awarded for interesting stealing methods.

if u make the machine look cool, maybe

but i wouldnt consider this an interesting stealing method

[violet light]

hmm

[dense coyote]

Where do we put the collected objects

Also can you submit more than one method

[dusky needle]

collected materials must be within one of the red zones at the beginning

[dense coyote]

oh ok

[dusky needle]

yes! multiple submissions is okay (and encouraged)

[dusky needle]

bump

[dusky needle]

theres still only been 2 submissions...

[violet light]

i should try with the new update

[dusky needle]

i was thinking

the new update could allow for some CRAZY things

[random dove]

@dusky needle is moving the thing back into the build area and changing it allowed

[random dove]

Also, what counts as triggering the alarm

[dusky needle]

no user input after unpausing the save to let the machine do its thing

[dusky needle]

if the cloner attached to the alarm system produces anything

[pine idol]

@dusky needle can i still

[dusky needle]

yes

[pine idol]

@dusky needle what counts as being able to steal smt

[pine idol]

do i have to get it out or smt

[dusky needle]

ive explained it before

bring it back to where the red boxes are

[pine idol]

oh ok

[dusky needle]

@neat pond @violet light @dense coyote @random dove @pine idol you all have expressed interest previously yet not submitted anything; just wanna check in/remind you :]

[dense coyote]

yeah idk, don't count on me submitting

But i might

[dusky needle]

honestly im not counting on anyone submitting considering only 2 people have been ranked after nearly half a year

[pine idol]

im thinking how to bring the thing

[dusky needle]

for clarification upon rules:
valuable pixels stored within another pixel WILL still count for scoring as long as they are within a red zone

[safe pollen]

Actually I will come back to this if I finally have time

[safe pollen]

If I feel like doing it later that is

[random dove]

I can't think of an interesting solution

that doesn't involve manual input

[dusky needle]

b

[neat pond]

i forgot

[worldly sundial]

here is my submission

the alarm did not go off

it was deactivated

[dusky needle]

your machine uses 1 battery, 147 wire, and 147 piston ray emitters

-calc 1 + 147 + 147(30)

[orchid elbow]

Result: 4558.000000

[dusky needle]

your machine costs 4558

copper: 54
diamond: 42
galvanized_steel: 128
gold: 34
invar: 21
iron: 56
silver: 88
steel: 848
tungsten: 87

-cacl 10042 + 7534 + 5088 + 2556 + 10*54 + 128 + 21 + 848 + 87

-calc 10042 + 7534 + 5088 + 2556 + 10*54 + 128 + 21 + 848 + 87

[orchid elbow]

Result: 14174.000000

[dusky needle]

-calc 14174-4558

[orchid elbow]

Result: 9616.000000

[dusky needle]

@worldly sundial you are now ranked 2nd

wait i need to give bonus points for no alarm

wait nvm