GTDT (general tech design team)

[ionic cipher]

after im done eating im gonna chek it out

[lyric crow]

alr

[ionic cipher]

ooh okok

then if you do send also that save if you want

im so happy today

i solved a certain problem in my alcohol lamps

(irl)

[lyric crow]

woah nice

nvm

i tried compacting it more

didnt work

i still think its already a pretty compact design though

[ionic cipher]

it is quite compact i must say

[lyric crow]

thx

[ionic cipher]

i did something similar yesterday but yours does actually shield the radioactive material

mine is more of a heat emitter

can work as the core that boils water but

i never set the right temp to do so

is more of an experiment than something of pratical use

[lyric crow]

its really cool

[ionic cipher]

thanks!

my greatest succes in fission reactor making remains this tho

fission battery that also had a bomb mode witch lol

is an old design

with the recent updates i could improve it so it can be moved while its working

this video is from version 1.13.1

the inner workings are quite complex for the small size (this one does not have the bomb mode)

but this used wireless transmitter wich will never work in grouped objects since is based on coordinates

[lyric crow]

woah thats really cool

[ionic cipher]

new version is gonna have portal channel fro a more smooth working mechanism

you can see the new model it in one of the saves i posted 8the supercritical ozone ion rifle )

altho the battery in this video is a fusion version since the laser needed more power lorewise

but i have made 3 version with the same identical size

one radiothermal decay

one fission

one fusion

the new model as you can see can also be powered remotely

is much more evolved

the advantage of that size is that is not so small that it forces you to sacrifice important components

all fit just right on that size

[lyric crow]

noted

[ionic cipher]

i honestly thought you knew sorry ahah

you can also set channels in them

like select prop

type : channel

enter

then type: true

oh wait a damn sec

i am an absolute idiot

sorry

type channel then enter

then type the number of the channel

then brush the portals you wanna link with it

this is the correct procedure

[lyric crow]

interesting

so if the portals are consistent enough

then it could be a new way to make a diode

[vague kestrel]

0 - 0

the most obvious way to make a diode, and none of us saw it

[lyric crow]

diode you mean?

[vague kestrel]

yeah

[lyric crow]

yep

lol

[ionic cipher]

true

litterally

back then i tried to use them as little as possible in my builds but tbh with the recent update they have become so much useful

[ionic cipher]

im quite happy with the turbine blades design i came up with

how does steam go trough you might ask

the answer is quite simple

portal hell

im gonna have dinner and test it out

the flow should be quite good

[lyric crow]

yall

should i revisit the diodeless variable resistor

i remembered i said i would try improving it to make it easier to activate

but i never got around to it

bc sidetracked

[ionic cipher]

you should totally do that

i am completing the powerplant and im also gonna revisit my own variable resistor

i wanna experiment with what mnem said about portal being the best diodes

[lyric crow]

nice

[ionic cipher]

progress:

eh i hate the steam condenser tbh

it works like sh°it

[lyric crow]

i upgraded the diodeless variable resistor

now all you need to do is just put a pixel of shock into the input at the bottom

and it will activate 100% on its own

no precise manual input needed

@ionic cipher @vague kestrel

[ionic cipher]

this is the best resistor i have ever seen

how does it work?

what does the gate and porcelain shard area do?

i managed to break the loop

i mean

like

breacking it phisically

to see if i could restart it

and i can

wich is nice

[lyric crow]

the gate and porcelain shard is what drops down the wire at the right time

to complete the circuit at the exact right tick

so it forms the loop

[ionic cipher]

very nice

[lyric crow]

without cancelling itself out

it took a decent bit of trial and error figuring out the exact delay

[ionic cipher]

oooooh

now i seee what you mean

it started unpaused for some reason

but now i see how it starts

very cool

you should totally post this

is a very simple circuit

[lyric crow]

thx

alr

[ionic cipher]

but as good as it simple

wich is a double win

[lyric crow]

just posted it

thx

and its easy to expand too

just increase the length of the slider and the wire tracks on the right

and you can make it possible to go from a tiny loop all the way to one that takes like 300 ticks

maybe even more if you have a bigger world

dont see why not

[ionic cipher]

ehehehe

bro

i have pixelResize.js

i could make this 2000 pixel long or more

[lyric crow]

woah nice

[ionic cipher]

lmao

[lyric crow]

go for it

[ionic cipher]

eh right now im in the middle of a problem

more like 2

a condenser and turbine problem

maybe just the condenser tbh

[lyric crow]

?

[ionic cipher]

the turbines even managed to simulate pressur by some archane magic with portals

[ionic cipher]

ok so

basically im making this machine that takes the reeeeally hot steam and brings it down to a more aceptable 150 c°

but i realized i kinda overdid the design

it works too well and it looks like using an industrial grade freezere in a 1 cm wide stream of steam 💀

in hindsight i did put too much entry points

only one large would have sufficed

apart from that is working for the most prt

[lyric crow]

interesting

[ionic cipher]

turbines work like a charm

i simulated pressure using portals

like this

the hot steam will take a while to pass trough all of them

and the turbines can get red hot if too much steam goes in at the same time

it really looks pressurized

i hope to finish this tonight

[lyric crow]

woah nice

so its legit an advanced steam engine in sandboxels

hooked up to a nuclear reactor

AS THE FOUNDING FATHERS INTENDED TALLY'HO

lol

still though nonsequitor memes aside

thats legit really really cool

[vague kestrel]

only problem is that if you accidentally make it lose its charge

(e.g. manipulating it too fast)

you can't really recharge it

[ionic cipher]

thanks!

WE MADE POWER BOYS

i made the turbine even better now!

[lyric crow]

THATS AWESOME

[lyric crow]

true but if you move the slider around too fast then it will break anyway

[ionic cipher]

now i gotta make the build look nice and we should be done

[vague kestrel]

true

and ig you can still do it if you have perfect timing

[lyric crow]

yeah

you could still do a manual override if something glitched and uncharged it

ik a way to make it fixable and even toggleable without manual override

but that would need a relay

which i still havent figured out how to make

i think im onto something though

[ionic cipher]

perfected the cooling tower

[vague kestrel]

wouldn't that be functionally identical to a gate

[lyric crow]

no

a relay has a mechanical part to it

it needs to physically move around a wire

[vague kestrel]

oh, you need it to physically move

[lyric crow]

yeah

[ionic cipher]

all left to add is the actual housing building and painting the pipes

here's how it looks dry

[urban hound]

@vague kestrel may i join this team?

[vague kestrel]

why not

the name doesn't actually reflect an orginisation

[urban hound]

if you guys give enoufh attention i could build a calcutor

and yes it will be fully functional like a normal calcutor

Operators and all

[vague kestrel]

should probably get a better one, it was originally named like this because of https://discord.com/channels/939255181474955331/1256780860179353672

[urban hound]

i mean only * +-/ on a 7 segment screen

[urban hound]

what

[vague kestrel]

still cool

[urban hound]

a what?

[vague kestrel]

a better name

[vague kestrel]

inch resting

[urban hound]

idk what you are talking about but it looks like i am not gonna mind it

[vague kestrel]

the name of the thread

am i explaining badly

[urban hound]

it could take like 3 months to build a calc btw

nah i just dont knkw antthkng about discord

Currently discord is banned in my country and i dont have a pc so i have to login from a broken phone with vpn to a desktop site

[vague kestrel]

damn

[urban hound]

damn, right?

[ionic cipher]

huge respect for the dedication bro

[vague kestrel]

yeah

[urban hound]

yo i think we could be a good trio( jumper and mnem are the only guys i talk with there)

(with my broken english)

your reddit mame is personal jump btw, right?

name*

[ionic cipher]

yes

[urban hound]

mine is partucula billy

[ionic cipher]

ye i know

[urban hound]

particular billy

ye good

[ionic cipher]

i remember we talked on reddit before you joined here

[urban hound]

yea i remember too

[ionic cipher]

was some weeks ago

[urban hound]

yea

[ionic cipher]

i think

[urban hound]

you think?

[ionic cipher]

i think

im taking a little break

[urban hound]

wtf

[ionic cipher]

the thing is almost done

[urban hound]

can you actually build things like this

[ionic cipher]

yeah

i just generally don't cause im lazy

lol

i once made a big chem lab

mnem probably remembers it

it was long ago

[vague kestrel]

yeah, i think i might

[urban hound]

my biggiest project about thermodynamics was just this

[vague kestrel]

made an incredibly horrible userscript to show the TPS again

[ionic cipher]

i like it

look very mechanical

[vague kestrel]

time to make yet another attempt at decent registers

[urban hound]

it makes sure meat at the right is perfectly cooked and not burned

[ionic cipher]

you can do it bro

[urban hound]

what is that?

Explain

[vague kestrel]

idk how, though

[urban hound]

İdk what is that but my current goal is to make a number input registiration unit

[vague kestrel]

nice

[urban hound]

it is bedtime here

Twelve o clock

so good nights

[vague kestrel]

bye!

[ionic cipher]

good night bro!

[vague kestrel]

gn

[vague kestrel]

well, i say they're dedicated registers, but, in practice, im probably just going to make it part of the RAM

just reserved for the CPU to write stuff into

[ionic cipher]

for that computer you where making?

[vague kestrel]

yeah

[ionic cipher]

i see

cool

how big are the experimental ram units as of now?

[vague kestrel]

still trying to figure out a way to build them that doesn't waste a lot of space

[urban hound]

İ am curiuos abt your computer too

[vague kestrel]

well, it doesn't really have much of anything yet

just the program tape and an adder

[urban hound]

Could you send a photo of a single ram cell

[ionic cipher]

are you alreadu using pixel resize tool?

[vague kestrel]

nah

i don't think ill need it for this specific one

[ionic cipher]

do you plan un using the mod on bigger ones?

[vague kestrel]

this is the rough design i had

but it's not really arrangeable as a grid

[urban hound]

Could you guys convince ryan to fix the portal bug?

[ionic cipher]

this is already so cool

congrats

[vague kestrel]

i still don't understand it

[ionic cipher]

heh?

if portals are bugged now you should have saw them back in the day

💀

[urban hound]

it is just so annoying even to think about it

[ionic cipher]

am i right mnem?

[vague kestrel]

i don't remember

[urban hound]

All he have to do is to make sure a electrified portalin doesnt send electricty to a already electricifed portalout

[vague kestrel]

i barely used portals

[ionic cipher]

they needed a free pixel to conduct eletricity while covered

[urban hound]

it is all just this and it brokes all my computers

[ionic cipher]

and if i recall at fisrt the channel thing did not exist

[vague kestrel]

yeah

[ionic cipher]

also the lines

[vague kestrel]

part of why i barely used them

[ionic cipher]

me too

they where kinda annoyng

and worked only

like for one channel

[urban hound]

But as a unmodded enginee, i need fhem

[ionic cipher]

im talking about early unmodded portals

[vague kestrel]

tbh, the main thing i like about logicgates.js wifi is that you can name the channels something meaninfgul

[urban hound]

mods make aandboxels too complicated that i cant simulate in my brain

[ionic cipher]

that i did not know

i should really pick back up that mod tbh

was it updated recently?

[vague kestrel]

idk

[ionic cipher]

i remember it made my game lag for some reason

[vague kestrel]

still waiting for nouser to add ORing transmitters

[ionic cipher]

even tho i must say

i have a third of the mods i had back then

so maybe i could try again

[urban hound]

But anyways are you guys gonna join me about the portal bug?

[ionic cipher]

i do think they are fine

[urban hound]

THEY ARENT

[ionic cipher]

i used them when they where worse

than now

[vague kestrel]

i still don't get it

[ionic cipher]

so now i actually enjoy using them

[urban hound]

there were a explanation, lemme find it

[ionic cipher]

compared than before

[urban hound]

An electrified portalin sends electrity to already electricified portalouts when there are many portalins and portalouts. You defietly have to fix it. Make it so it checks property charge of the portalout, skip to next portalout immadiently with no waiting a single tick if charge and chargeCD are not undefined. İf all the portalouts at the same channel are already charged or chargeCD not ready, stop researching cuz it can cause pulse to multiply

[vague kestrel]

ah

makes sense

[urban hound]

enjoy?

I DONT

[vague kestrel]

so it makes big pulses?

[ionic cipher]

well i never really paid much attention to this so

i don't usually make logic circuits

so maybe is that i guess

[urban hound]

No, i might have explained it a bit badly

but i think you guys get it

so the thing that makes my computer broke is, a memory reader unit( which uses #41, #42, #43, #44,#45, #46) sends a electrity on #41 to all other 50 logic gates but somehow some portalouts dont power up, causing signals to corrupt

[vague kestrel]

i absolutely cannot think of a more efficient way

actually, wait a second

i think this can be integrated efficiently

[vague kestrel]

so this is the best i can come up with

guess i could make it slightly more compact without having a physical grid

but this is easier to build

tbh, grid paper is probably nice for this

[ionic cipher]

98% done

[vague kestrel]

woah

[ionic cipher]

should i paint the pipes? 🤔

or leave them with the normal color?

[vague kestrel]

I think normal colour

[ionic cipher]

yeah me too

i was thinking of using a really dark shade inside

like the color of pipe wall but almost black

[ionic cipher]

done

[lyric crow]

awesome

[ionic cipher]

thanks!

[ionic cipher]

i don't even know how many thermal modes i have

i have 5 controls for the cooling

1 for a continuos mode

one based on at lest 25 different positions

so i have no idea of how many combos i have

[lyric crow]

thats legit insane

i wonder if its possible to make a fusion/fission powerplant

one which uses fission to heat the hydrogen for fusion

wait nvm

its already possible to do a pure fission reactor that uses the exothermic stuff to be self sustaining

so it could be done just by heating up uranium alot one time to heat up the hydrogen to start the reaction

[vague kestrel]

well, it would have to be able to contain a nuke explosion

so rather big, ig

[lyric crow]

true

[vague kestrel]

since uranium only gets hot enough then (in a practical amount of time)

[lyric crow]

yeah

uranium to get that hot using only radiation and no neutrons

that would take probably hours irl even at 1000 tps

[vague kestrel]

yeah

wonder how the heat from the fission would be efficiently collected

[lyric crow]

porcelain maybe

but that would still take forever

[vague kestrel]

true, but wouldn't heat be lost from the stuff that disappears

like fallout

[lyric crow]

not sure

[vague kestrel]

tbh, this sort of thing would be relatively easy if it was possible to make a heat pump

[lyric crow]

yeah

[vague kestrel]

since then you could heat it up with anything

as long as you have enough heat coming in

[urban hound]

do ypu want to collect and store heat? İ can build something simple for this

[vague kestrel]

nah, just storing heat isn't the problem

just concentrating it

[urban hound]

like at a spesific point?

[vague kestrel]

yeah

[urban hound]

You can use lasers to do it

[vague kestrel]

but with an increased temperature

is the problem

just getting it into a point is easy

[urban hound]

İ use a system that you want as a laser gun

lemme drop a tutorial

Look, i used plasma cloners here to achieve heat

you can use fusion heat instand

it heats the laser particle on the way and shots a hot beam

@vague kestrel

[vague kestrel]

i already know about that

what i mean is

[urban hound]

is, ...

?

[vague kestrel]

(super heat conductor as a stand in, it doesn't do this)

[urban hound]

i didnt understand anything from this iamge

what are those brown things

and texts

[vague kestrel]

so you have stuff at n degc coming from the bottom

[urban hound]

what do they mean

[vague kestrel]

and from the top there's stuff at n * m (guess m would depend on stuff) degrees c

but how would this be designed ingame in a way that doesn't break the laws of physics

since a normal heat pump doesn't (obviously)

[urban hound]

thermodynamics?

[vague kestrel]

wdym

[urban hound]

what is n, what is m

[vague kestrel]

n is the temperature of the incoming stuff

[urban hound]

mol and Mass?

[vague kestrel]

m is arbitrary (tm)

[urban hound]

ohh

[vague kestrel]

(n and m as variables)

[urban hound]

idk what is arbitrary

[vague kestrel]

(from a dictionary since im really bad at defining words)

[urban hound]

oh ok it was just a translate issue

so current system breaks the lawa of phsics? How?

[vague kestrel]

no, i mean the one im talking about

[ionic cipher]

my improved version of the little su fusion reactor is a fission and fusion hybrid reactor

can work only by fusion, only by fission or both

was complicated to do but works very well with uranium dioxide

there it is

the plasma also spins around like in a real one

i should make a new one tho

this is kinda old now

[ionic cipher]

thanks bro!

[ionic cipher]

not at all

if you use uranium oxide

the bigger risk is the hydrogen catching on fire

but that is rather rare

in my fusion fission hybrid first i kickstart the hydrogen fusing into helium wich makes a ton of neutron

[vague kestrel]

what's special about it

[ionic cipher]

bypassing the need for a neutron source

then i inject uranium dioxide

wich will never meltdown and prolongs the longevity of the fuel cycle

kinda like giving redbull to the reactor lol

[vague kestrel]

ah

[ionic cipher]

only uranium dioxide is suitable for doing this tho

nothing else

in fact the self destruct button it had used a rapid plutonium dioxide injection

[vague kestrel]

interesting

so it's like uranium but it never melts down

[ionic cipher]

and you can imagine what that did

[ionic cipher]

oh no it melts

a lot

but will remain fissile

will slowly evaporate into plasma tho

so every once in a while is added back to account for the loss

in this the cyclotron is very advanced

one functionality that i always overlooked was the cold fusion

using alpha particle injection and electrons

i was working on adding a panel to inject all elements of the periodical table but in the end after all the updates i never got to it

i could make a new and improved one tho

hybrid fusion fission mode

[lyric crow]

nice

[ionic cipher]

has been so long since the last time

there you can see the fusion fission mode in act

tbh in hindsight i made this one so much more complicated than what it needed

was fun to use tho

now i would use less eletronics and have it work better tho

[urban hound]

it looks cool

[ionic cipher]

thanks!

check out the last one i posted also!

[lyric crow]

nice

[ionic cipher]

👀

maybe a new cyclotron powerplant..

this is gonna take a long while

[lyric crow]

woah thats really cool

what parts are the blue things

and how are you toggling? them

[urban hound]

Decimal adder with a carry, input register and output

[vague kestrel]

cool!

[ionic cipher]

oh thanks! but nothing fancy just two portal outs

i am testing a toggleable turbine that is remotely controlled for my cyclotron

im shoking them manually for now but they will be controlled using portal channels eventually

basically what im doing is toggling the centrifuge in and out of existence

one portal controls th centrifuge E-cloner

the other one controls the E-void pixel wich will delete it when im done using it

so i can basically decide when to have a cntrifugal core in the fusion reactor

[lyric crow]

ohhh

nice

[ionic cipher]

thanks!

what are you up to tday?

im kinda on a break after the reactor

not many people seem to have liked it tho

but is ok was fun to make regardless of that

[lyric crow]

i think the reactor is really cool even though i dont rly understand it lol

idk what im doing today

lol

[vague kestrel]

valve structure

guess there are much more efficient ways to build it with specificpistonrayemmiters

[ionic cipher]

it is kinda complex

[ionic cipher]

can i like

push a pipe section?

to close a pipe phisically?

[vague kestrel]

wdym

[ionic cipher]

hold on let me try

imma show you

YOOOOO

IT WORKS

@vague kestrel

faucet is fauceting

😎

i love the simplicity

[vague kestrel]

true, this is probably useful when playing without mods

guess epipes are better in every way if you have nousersthings.js

[ionic cipher]

true

im just looking for vanilla ways cause in the subreddit of sanboxels they often ask me for schematics

and they asked me the basics of a fusion reactor so i think im gonna implement this in the assembly

is simple to use if one does not want mods

since many reddit players don't use them

[vague kestrel]

that reminds me, what to add to this thing

[ionic cipher]

E-pipe time awareness moment

[ionic cipher]

bro

this is the most clean looking

nice diagram

i ever seen

it looks so nice bro

[vague kestrel]

it's actually quite easy with draw.io

which ill glaze at all points possible

[ionic cipher]

i usually make mines with paint like a maniac

(it works like sh°it)

[vague kestrel]

yeah, this would be painful to make with something like that

doesn't even have layers

[ionic cipher]

yep

all my schematics are made in one go cause of this

mnem you would nor believe what i found

remember when i told you i did not have pics of my earlies nuclear reactor like tech?

[vague kestrel]

yeah

[ionic cipher]

apparently laptop stored copies of those screenshot i deleted long ago

wanna see ?

[vague kestrel]

yeah

[ionic cipher]

(they are bad i warn you) 😂 i was not a good builder back then

my first pseudo reactor

is not a nuclear reactor

is an uranium stabilizer basically

before i knew how to use neutrons safely

[vague kestrel]

interesting

[ionic cipher]

(also look at the old light effects lol)

[vague kestrel]

this is the first one i can find in discord

[ionic cipher]

woha

[vague kestrel]

i don't think i took any screenshots at all before i started putting stuff on discord

[vague kestrel]

(yeah, i didn't know about the setting to turn off clouds back then)

[ionic cipher]

first working neutron releasing one

[vague kestrel]

noice

[ionic cipher]

(5 mintes of unsupervised operation before meltdown)

[vague kestrel]

bro's inherently good at making stuff look cool

[ionic cipher]

this is even older

[vague kestrel]

why did you delete it and repost

[ionic cipher]

wife message

[vague kestrel]

well, it still looks better than this thing

[vague kestrel]

a what message?

[ionic cipher]

bro atleast yours worked, mine was a bomb lol

[ionic cipher]

ahah

my girlfiend

her message was visible

[vague kestrel]

well, it's also entirely manual, so

[ionic cipher]

in the screenshot

[vague kestrel]

ah

[ionic cipher]

i mean

the core was always like this

[vague kestrel]

and no safeties

[ionic cipher]

lmao

[vague kestrel]

wait, shouldn't it be running hot

[ionic cipher]

yeah mine too lol

[vague kestrel]

just not too hot

wonder what the first automatic one i made was

[ionic cipher]

yeah but the thing was always bordering the 385 degrees c°💀

[vague kestrel]

but idk how to go about finding it

[ionic cipher]

i think mine was this

it had also a backup one that got activated by the metdown itself

but the temp managment was bad

worked but bad

[vague kestrel]

big difference in quality

lol

(this is me filtering by the word reactor for stuff with images and is in #1179898515330170920 )

[ionic cipher]

evolved yours quite fast too

[vague kestrel]

well, the upper one is literally a year after the one under it

so not that fast

[ionic cipher]

no i was talking abt the botton one

[vague kestrel]

ah

[ionic cipher]

compared to the first one

fission

[vague kestrel]

well, it's more cores of the same general design

[ionic cipher]

it already looks good tho

[vague kestrel]

lies

[ionic cipher]

nah

mine was just

an uranium pile

with neutrons

[vague kestrel]

wellllllllllllllllllllllllll

[ionic cipher]

atleast you tried to make rods

with more piles

[vague kestrel]

there are no rods

[ionic cipher]

yeah but rod like chambers

not just one uranium mass

[vague kestrel]

true

[ionic cipher]

in this sense is better

[vague kestrel]

very effective way to make it harder to operate

[ionic cipher]

ahaha true

rods are a pain to manage

im having problems with it even now

[vague kestrel]

tbh, most of my reactor stuff is in https://discord.com/channels/939255181474955331/1256780860179353672

[ionic cipher]

ah yes

my batteries before i was able to miniaturize my tech

i basically a full reactor

[vague kestrel]

batry

[ionic cipher]

has all the loops and stuff

[vague kestrel]

bbaatteerryy

[ionic cipher]

just small

but we all know what my best build was

[vague kestrel]

lol

remake it with the group tool

[ionic cipher]

yooooooo

true

true indeed man

imma go eat brb

[vague kestrel]

bye

[ionic cipher]

that was sure a good hamburger

anyway

oklo natural nuclear reactor

gabon province ( 1.7 billion years ago)

and the earliest cyclotron like reactor i made

when i discovered i could use centrifuge

but the reaction happened in the section below it

[vague kestrel]

cool thing

[ionic cipher]

thanks!

i should remake it in wide screen mode tbh

this is the last one i made where two reagents made the hydrogen

looked goofy

after this one and the following prototipe i made the first actual cyclotron

wich was named "up cyclotron 1"

cause the ignition was controlled by the sign with the upwards pointing arrow

this was the last one to have an exaust pipe

where the helium was released into the enviromnent only after all the heat was extracted to make energy

[ionic cipher]

but this one gave rise to the fusion battery series

even tho they where still very big compared to the present versions

[vague kestrel]

cool things

[ionic cipher]

and for last

here's the prototype of little sun

before all the complex stuff was added to it

i made a micro cyclotron also wich sadly i never developed further

even tho the technology worked and very well🤔

[ionic cipher]

thanks!

oh yeah

how is your computer going so far?

[vague kestrel]

uhhhhh

mostly just sidetracked by other stuff (tm)

[ionic cipher]

oh i see

no worries

most trange and unusual fusion reactor i made

try to guess the ignition method

[vague kestrel]

tesla coil?

[ionic cipher]

close

this is a lightning ignitor fusion reactor

the lightning provides heat and eletricty to make and fuse hydrogen

wich is why is so large since i have to stay clear of the explosion range

i made it only once to see if it's possible

[vague kestrel]

interesting

funny centrifuge

(all the cloners are injectors for a bunch of elements)

[ionic cipher]

very nice

[ionic cipher]

wouldn't specific ray emitters be better?

[vague kestrel]

why

cloners are much more controllable

[ionic cipher]

you can inject the fuel inside

since it bypass walls

so you can keep the chamber intact

[vague kestrel]

the chamber is the right size to be just fine

[ionic cipher]

fair

i meant like

portaling the elements inside

directly

[vague kestrel]

ah

[ionic cipher]

without making holes

[vague kestrel]

lazy

[ionic cipher]

ahaha i see

[vague kestrel]

(besides, the bottom isn't that useful for much)

the sides are better for heat exchanging

and i can put control stuff under it

[ionic cipher]

true that

i never tought abt it

[vague kestrel]

nuke

[ionic cipher]

indeed

[vague kestrel]

~~this is not #💬│general ~~

get out

[ionic cipher]

oh yeah

sorry abt that

deleting it

alright mess cleaned

anyway

back to tech topic

do you ever use group when you place something in a wrong position?

that would took too long to rebuild in the correct one?

[vague kestrel]

don't think i ever did that

[ionic cipher]

you should totally try if that happens

group error > drag to position

pause

ungroup

error gone

saved me a lot o work in the last reactor

[vague kestrel]

Funny symbols

[ionic cipher]

lol

chek this out💀

it's an old schematic for a makeshift xray tube

also this nice looking one

[vague kestrel]

goofy

[vague kestrel]

yeah, these diagrams are cool

in general

even though i don't actually know how to do circuit analysis

[vague kestrel]

well, tbf, it's probably from before most of those symbols were standardised

[ionic cipher]

i could do that if i kick my brain into braining since i did eletronics back when i was in school

[ionic cipher]

true

look old af

[ionic cipher]

finally

making control and fuel rods with specific piston rays is

sastifing when works

but a pain to do

(the rods covered by insulations are the neutron rods)

gonna test more designs

[ionic cipher]

@lyric crow

steam + steam turbine diode

turbines have a tendency to multiply the signal from steam

and also naturally erase steam

i chained some in parallel and apparently works decently as a signal amplifier

the more you chain the more signal you get out

if i use only one the signal goes from 1 pulse to 2 pulses

[lyric crow]

woah nice

what mod is a steam turbine in?

[ionic cipher]

hold on let me see

( i don't use steam turbines since a long time)

the good old: ExtraMachines.js

i knew it was that one

[lyric crow]

ohh alr

wait i just thought of something

gonna test it rq

[ionic cipher]

dw

[lyric crow]

nvm dont work

i was testing to see if multiple portals could be used to duplicate a signal

like this

but it didnt work bc there was always a slight random offset

btw

just tested another thing

gonna test a variation for more info

yep

if you take 2 things

group them

and try to put one through a portal

then it wont go through

gonna test pipes now

nope pipes dont work either

gonna need to find a new way to make a relay

[ionic cipher]

i just realized i mad my fission core wrong

i have to either rewire the piston rays or remake the rods

💔

[lyric crow]

OOF

[ionic cipher]

indeed💔

"this little manouver is gonna cost us 87 years"

💀

jumperC facing the consequences of his errors- 2026 colorized

see?

see how much space i wasted??

💀

💔

🥀

[lyric crow]

i just found something that could be interesting

if you shiftclick the fuse in element select

[ionic cipher]

oh yeah

you can set it

[lyric crow]

yeah

[ionic cipher]

i made a funny grenade like that once

wanna see?

[lyric crow]

it can change into diff stuff when charged

sure

also battery frequency can be changed but it seems a bit jankty

janky

sensors can be set to what they sense

this is very interesting stuff

[ionic cipher]

sorry took a while

found it

[ionic cipher]

void can also be set did you know that?👀

[lyric crow]

yeah

i used that for alot of stuff

[lyric crow]

lmao epic

[ionic cipher]

wait for the impact frame

[lyric crow]

i saw

its rad

[ionic cipher]

atomised

[ionic cipher]

that i did not know

but i know how batteries and cloners are made

[lyric crow]

how?

[ionic cipher]

battery is zink + malaware i think

[lyric crow]

woah thats really cool

[ionic cipher]

pipe is lead + malaware

and copper + malaware makes wire

[ionic cipher]

(courtesy of nouser for the pic)

[lyric crow]

alr

very interesting

[ionic cipher]

yeah

survival.js is nice to play

expecially with chemLegacy.js

[lyric crow]

survival.js is rad

[ionic cipher]

yeah

[ionic cipher]

fission core assembly done

(insulation around neutron sources during construction)

it will be removed

im activating all rods at once but individual channels for each rod will be made

also for entire rod types

for example controlling all moderator rods with a single button and so on

[urban hound]

they do if you use filter which ungroups

[urban hound]

is this unmodded? İ was looking for this, pleease send save file

[urban hound]

thats why i told ryan to fix the portal bug, what i want him to fix is not randomness tough, problem is there is a chance where 2 electricified portalins at same chaneel only power up a single portalout out of 2 portalouts at the same channel

btw all my conputer depemds on a single mechanic which is a electricified e cloner does not conducts electrity to a fuse

[ionic cipher]

not unmodded

[ionic cipher]

ok so

bad news

i have to redo the whole core again

cause i did not account for vertically squeezing the cranes (huge mistake on me)

but

the heat transfer and number of rods will increase dramatically in the third version

[ionic cipher]

new version looks rad 🗣️ 🔥

[lyric crow]

thats not the problem i ran into

the problem was that running electricity through portals

even without splitting

will make the electricity sometimes be offset slightly

definitely better than the problems with previous diodes but still not great

[vague kestrel]

inch resting

what did you use for the fissile matter

[ionic cipher]

our best friend the good old uranium oxide i just found out that if i use shift+click of the mous wheel over the brightest pixel of any material the next time i place that is gonna have a full color

i had to add another array of pyston movers

but now it looks like the real thing

basically with one array i can either lifth or push down all rods or lift or push down only for example the moderators, or the fuel rods etc

the other array will let you move individual rods

here's how it looks now

painted

@vague kestrelshould i make this thinner or larger?

the dark rdos are uranium oxide

[vague kestrel]

what's the canvas size

if it's medium, I'd keep it as it is

[ionic cipher]

wide pixel size 4

[vague kestrel]

if it's large, maybe an extra column or two

but I think it'd be better to make 2 independent cores

that are a bit narrower

[ionic cipher]

eh idk i kinda wanna make it as realistic as possible but im also afraid all the rest is basically gonna end up covering the whole canvas im in

[vague kestrel]

hmmm

[ionic cipher]

cause i will have to also account fot the control panel

so i think im either gonna follow potassium example and put it on the top

or put it on one side

[vague kestrel]

just make an absolutely massive canvas with pixelResizeTool

[ionic cipher]

yeah i tried but more than 4 will get me 10 tps at best when is all full

space i have for reference

[vague kestrel]

hmmm

actually much bigger than it looked in the other screenshot

[ionic cipher]

yeah?

i make heavy use of pixel resize

is a very useful mod tbh

[vague kestrel]

actually, why are there four emmiters per row

[ionic cipher]

cause i need two different channels one for moving rod groups one for moving them individually

otherwise i had to do some logic necromancy i was not prepared for lol

so i tought first row will have the rod type based controls and also the all rods control

with a switch that toggled on will let me power all at once

[vague kestrel]

seems like you get a free OR gate if you make two portal outs touch

[ionic cipher]

second row will have individual buttons for every rod

[ionic cipher]

oh

[vague kestrel]

probably just because they conduct

[ionic cipher]

so does it mean

better logic in vanilla?

[vague kestrel]

yeah

i only just noticed

[ionic cipher]

nice!

so what do you think of the double row thing?

[vague kestrel]

wdym

smol or gate with a mildly questionable shape

[ionic cipher]

the 4 piston rays per row

[vague kestrel]

actually the exact same pixel count as it would be in logicgates.js

but it's a bit less convenient since you have to assign two arbitrary channels

and you don't really get much freedom with how you arrange the pixels

[ionic cipher]

true

but i have some interesting ideas for a phisical scram key

im gonna do some errands and work on it

[vague kestrel]

hmmmmm

maybe a big bar you drag out?

[ionic cipher]

sorta

but use the interaction between sensor and porcelain shard

i wanna implement a key with a shape like irl keys

in some way

like with an irregular shape

so not any key will work

maybe

sensor set to a very specific materials

tbh we need some additions to vanilla machines

[vague kestrel]

hmmmm

tbh, a wire that is simulated independently from ticks would be cool

instantaneous, but it can easily support arbitrary values

[ionic cipher]

also an e wall equivalent that only conducts heat

before you say

porcelain

[vague kestrel]

so you can have a true analog temperature sensor

[ionic cipher]

void deletes it

we need something void invunerable

[ionic cipher]

exactly

[vague kestrel]

idk how simulating propogation delay would work

but it's probably possible

[ionic cipher]

but in general a heat conductive material that is indestructible but non conductive is missing

[vague kestrel]

well, ig analog wires still work if they're tick dependent

[ionic cipher]

if you think abt it

we have wall

[vague kestrel]

they just have to be coded a bit differently

[ionic cipher]

and e wall

but not temp wall

would be a perfect trio

for making violent contained reactions and stuff

[vague kestrel]

true

tbh, lighting working with lightning rods would be cool

[ionic cipher]

yep also that would be much easier to do

maybe a positive charge and negative charge brush in edit

so you give opposite charge to stuff

and make lightning rods or magnets

it doen not change the current behaviour

but for example positive lightning can get attracted to negatively charged stuff

[vague kestrel]

even without it

maybe if it only heated stuff up a lot?

then you could make a destructible lightning rod if you just cool the metal sufficiently

[ionic cipher]

true that

in fact another thing that would be a good addition is

room tempers and tempers

with relative E- version

tempers will forcefully get stuff around them to that temp you set

[vague kestrel]

true, that could be moved in from nousersthings.js

[ionic cipher]

yuo

[vague kestrel]

when will nouser remove that mod's filter

[ionic cipher]

also hotter and cold sensors

tbh they feel like part of the game

[vague kestrel]

yeah

[ionic cipher]

@vague kestrel check this out

the rod categori control is done

[vague kestrel]

nice

[ionic cipher]

now i have to do the scram and the individual ones

[vague kestrel]

slightly dumb idea for scram: blowing the bottom of the reactor off and letting the stuff inside fall into a pool of gallium or smth

[ionic cipher]

true

or a system to flood the core with liquid nitrogen

and empty it after emergency

[vague kestrel]

huh, i didn't know C4 was entirely unresponsive to heat ingame

[ionic cipher]

oh

[vague kestrel]

hmmm

all this reminds me of ERDT

[ionic cipher]

me neither

[vague kestrel]

quite sure it exploded anyway irl

[ionic cipher]

what was that

[vague kestrel]

if it got really hot

[vague kestrel]

https://discord.com/channels/939255181474955331/1256780860179353672

this one is technically based off that

[ionic cipher]

ooh i see

i was thinking of a gas blanket of sorts

around the heat transfer part

[vague kestrel]

hmmm

[ionic cipher]

like in the last fusion one where i had an helium blanket

[vague kestrel]

actually, one way to acheive automatic safety is to have a plug of something like plastic

that just melts and lets stuff out

[ionic cipher]

i can do a safety with hotter sensor and cooler sensor maybe

is similar to a pulse mode in the last reactor i made

[vague kestrel]

but where would you put it

[ionic cipher]

hmm

true

it needs to touch the body of the reactor

maybe

wait a sec

no i don't have to