[ARCHIVED] Getting More Wood

[mental talon]

Softwood, Hardwood, Dry wood, and Dark wood can spawn from any tree. The drop type is dependent on the biome the tree is placed in, not the tree’s style. These are topiaries from the plaza placed in the Forgotten Lands. A bonus tip is to pave the area around the tree which will make it easier to spot the wood.

Thank you to @edgy minnow for the information above 👆

We do not have a respawn timer on the wood just yet, though Softwood is known to respawn within 5 minutes while the other three wood types taking a lot longer & drop a lot less. So if you need more of a specific type, you can create a “tree farm” but you need to make sure they are spread up in a pretty good distance.

Wood Spawn Pool
There is one spawn pool for wood in each biome. If you need hardwood you are also dealing with other types of wood that also spawn in that biome.

Whenever there is a random pool of potential choices the best strategy is to pick up/clear out all spawns from that pool to maximize your chances that what spawns next will be the kind you need.

We have no data on percentage of soft vs hard (or dry or dark) wood in any biome. But if you only pick up hardwood and leave the softwood (or other wood types), each new piece of wood that spawns can still be any type that spawns in that biome. Therefore you are gradually eliminating any spawns of hardwood if you only pick up hardwood.

Thank you to @pine mist for the above information! 👆

[raven grail]

I have found 5-8 trees does the job per biome - making a 3x3 donut(with 2 spaces between trees) is what I did for each biome while I rearrange and redecorate appropriately.
Ex: (I'll get a picture in a bit)
X--X--X

X

[lavish finch]

Bless you!! I’ve been pulling my hair out trying to get hardwood

[lusty mist]

I am having the issue where I have had 2 bits of hardwood in 2 days and need it for village project a mountains man stall

[lavish spear]

Omg I wish I saw this earlier!

[pine mist]

@lusty mist

Also if you are in a biome where the pool of potential wood spawns is mixed/random, make sure you pick up all wood, not just the type you want.

If you only pick up one type of wood from a random spawn drop you will limit the chances of the wood you want spawning again.

For example, it doesn’t replace a hardwood with the same type. Every new wood spawn is random from the potential pool of choices. (Same goes for flowers)

[unkempt linden]

Ahh Thanks for this Celestial now I can just link this instead of typing it out 50 times a day 😂 ❤️

[pine mist]

@mental talon can you please include info on not limiting the spawn pool by only picking up one type of wood?

[mental talon]

Sure thing! Do you want to type something up for me and I can add it for you! I don't fully known all the wood spawn information!

[pine mist]

There is one spawn pool for wood in each biome. If you need hardwood you are also dealing with other types of wood that also spawn in that biome.

Whenever there is a random pool of potential choices the best strategy is to pick up/clear out all spawns from that pool to maximize your chances that what spawns next will be the kind you need.

We have no data on percentage of soft vs hard (or dry or dark) wood in any biome. But if you only pick up hardwood and leave the softwood (or other wood types), each new piece of wood that spawns can still be any type that spawns in that biome. Therefore you are gradually eliminating any spawns of hardwood if you only pick up hardwood.

I had that written up already - feel free to edit if needed 💕

[unkempt linden]

Also @mental talon the spawn pool method is the same for flowers and the shellls on the beach.. Not sure if you want to make a separate thread for that.. but that same question is asked 100 times a day too lol

[peak yoke]

This is confusing.

[unkempt linden]

What has you confused

[lavish spear]

Does this require removing every tree in the biome?

[unkempt linden]

If you want to control the spawn points yea, you don't have to put in the plaza tree's tho you can juust move the tree's from the biome closer together

[lavish spear]

thank you!

[waxen stump]

I’m confused about what you mean. Why would we remove every tree in a biome?

[unkempt linden]

You don't have to but wood has a chance at spawning under any tree. So the less tree's you have, the less spawn points there are for the wood. You only need 4-5 tree's to get the max amount of wood possible to spawn.

[raven grail]

I have found 5-8 trees does the job per biome - making a 3x3 donut(with 2 spaces between trees) is what I did for each biome while I rearrange and redecorate appropriately.

you can see no other trees, except my donut, which produces the normal drops. i assume 8 is actually more than needed, but this is really all you need

and another example in the forest.

[whole imp]

animal crossing vibes

[raven grail]

Snes sim city vibes

[whole imp]

The OG game even!

[raven grail]

If you didn't make 3x3 donuts with a park in the middle, were you even trying?

[hollow chasm]

Ok... so none of these grids worked for me. It's been 3 days. I have picked up a total of 5 pieces of hardwood. I like "clean" space so I pick up everything, but I follow patterns. All the wood, all the herbs, all the flowers, etc. Now, outside of my meadow and main area, nothing is spawning. It's killing me because I am like 8 mushrooms from fixing my watering can so I can access the other area of the swamp and I haven't gotten a thing. It got the the point yesterday where it had been 2 days with no new mushrooms. Just out of nowhere. I have Kristofs stall and I wanted to throw the controller when he said softwood. 😢 xbox game pass. My son isn't having any issues except music lag on the paid early access for the switch.

[supple hamlet]

Did you put your well on the other side to gain access to it? There is a bug where all the stuff just spawns more on the other side so you should try that if you havent already

[hollow chasm]

..... are you kidding me?! I did not even consider for one second they would allow anything to be place there.

[supple hamlet]

Yea the game doesnt really consider it a blocked off area thats why sometimes characters can spawn there too

[hollow chasm]

I figured that was what was happening but I've just been standing there... staring... wishing... 😢 😭 😄

[supple hamlet]

It took me a while to get the tip too but atleast now you will have more than enough 😅

[hollow chasm]

Maybe... I'm on the second or third Minnie quest... so many items. Thank you so much!

[sweet pendant]

i would like to formally thank you for this bc i had the same problem and had 0 mushrooms spawning on the non blocked off side ur an angel tysm

[modern bone]

You can put chests outside?! 🥲

[spare sand]

Wow... thank you for that tip... did not even consider "the other side" not being a closed area 😅 since i'm not at that part of the game where i could just freely cross over. I could collect wood over there finally... just hoping they will keep respawn too 😊

[torn osprey]

we can put the plaza trees in the other biomes, thanks for that. I didn't even know this pin exisited. That will make a few areas better in the long run.

[grave flame]

i just did the quest for Anna to get rid of the tree stumps blocking the bridge, which requires you to upgrade your shovel, and i got a ton of hardwood from the stumps when digging them up. is that a viable farming option for hardwood? i was going crazy trying to do the Kristoff quest to build his stall because hardwood spawned so rarely.

edit: i was walking around the new area in the forest of valor and figured that since there was so much hardwood around this area i couldnt reach before, that was probably what was blocking some of the spawn rates. however, digging up the tree stumps is definitely giving me a lot of wood, it gives both types, but im getting more hard wood over soft wood.

[raven grail]

Update to my donut build. I'm down to 2 trees and still get my nornal spawns. I'm going to try 1 and see if I'm still good.

[lavish spear]

i’m 99% sure the stumps do not respawn ):

[grave flame]

Ah. I didn't know that.

[lavish spear]

i think they totally should respawn every day in the forest. it’d be such a reliable way to get hardwood

[median glade]

My trees Drops very Saad 😑

[raven grail]

I'm down to 2 trees a biome and get my normal drops.

[midnight wigeon]

no hardwood is respawn if

Respawning

[whole imp]

Did you drop to 1? I'm gonna redo things to look prettier without as many tree circles if possible

[merry lake]

Place plaza trees in that biome

They have a high wood drop rate and they will drop the respective wood of the area they are in

I place 4 of the small plaza trees and space them apart so wood drops all around them

It's how I was able to get dry wood and dark wood relatively easy for crafting

[raven grail]

I replaces all biomes with 2, I'm going to take a reading of all drops, and try again tonight with a single tree per biome and see if I get the same results.

More to come tomorrow.

[whole imp]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-kitten-cute-waiting-gif-23792171

[modern bone]

I have read in several places that all trees in any biome have the same drop rate for all individual woods. Source?

[merry lake]

Um my experience playing the game?

I started the game off by dotting trees in every biome and spacing them apart; thinking that more trees = more wood , but I believe there is a cap limit on how much wood can be on the ground due to performance?

I placed some plaza trees in the plaza as decoration but noticed they drop wood way more often than the full forests of trees in the other biomes

So now I just keep 4 plaza trees in the forgotten land and pick up all types of wood there

In other words , a lot of trees in a wide area means little wood all scattered everywhere while a few (plaza) trees in a small enclosed area means all the wood drops in a closer radius

[merry lake]

you can see that my plaza trees drop all the types of wood: soft, hard, dry and dark

i dont even bother picking up soft wood anymore since you can buy it from a stall

luckily not many current crafting recipes for furniture require the rarer dark and dry wood

i use plaza trees because i was actually annoyed by how much wood they dropped in my plaza ; then realized they could be used to amass resources

[raven grail]

any tree drops the region specific twigs

[merry lake]

it works for me ; so its how i do it

[raven grail]

im also using the plaza trees. i hate the big ones because they cover the camera too much

[merry lake]

the biome is pretty bare atm; but once i have enough of the furniture and enough wood amassed

i plan to redecorate entire areas

but sunlight plateau is technically unfinished at this point so whatever

[raven grail]

here is 2 readings on 2 trees. ill grab 1 tree tomorrow. im going to guess the best setup will be 3 trees, to make sure everything spawns, even if you have some other popups around the trees. there looks to be a spawn around 2-4 spots around the tree. but only 10ish look to spawn per tree by guessing what it looks like right now.

[lavish spear]

is it worth it to just have 4-5 plaza trees and remove every other tree in the forgotten lands?

[merry lake]

😕 maybe?

[lavish spear]

i have just never seen so much wood spawn from one tree like that in my forgotten lands! i even removed at least half of the trees bc it was so over crowded

[raven grail]

looks like you can only put about 2-3 trees and be set. im testing less though (only1)

and any tree works per region

[raven grail]

pretty sure i can skip a second test on this.

trying an additional 2 run, then a 3 and seeing where there is no change

[raven grail]

and now checking to see if a 3rd tree increases at all.

[ivory sigil]

When doing this, did you take all the trees off your village first or?

[raven grail]

my area looks just like this screen shot essentually. i have no trees, but 1 or 2 plazza trees

[ivory sigil]

ah okie cool!

[raven grail]

here was my original design, and wanted to find the absolute minimum need

[ivory sigil]

im tempted to do this with every area too just feel it might feel too empty XD

[raven grail]

its deffinatly empty - but - it makes it really easy to farm. im doing it to redesign my areas in general

[ivory sigil]

that makes sense! I'll prob do it myself as well >.< I'm just worried ill replace trees bad XD

[raven grail]

oh you cant mess up, any tree is a "tree" for the game but the drops are region specific

[ivory sigil]

Ah alright thanks

[raven grail]

example of my setups for each area basically

i wanted a Mining route setup first, then a garden with goofys stall and a tree farm, then ill go decorate accordingly.

[ivory sigil]

Thank you! Now to clear...only hope my creativity can replace trees later down the road when decorating nicely XD

People here are so helpful!

[raven grail]

I have also noticed, trees need room to drop. especially if you are trying a lower amount build.
so an extra 2 square in each direction is minimum, but have the ability to drop up to 4 squares away for most drops on low tree builds.

[stark monolith]

I don't know if this has been mentioned but I just timed it and it looks like dry wood drops around 30 minutes. Hardwood seems to be similar.

[raven grail]

that would be interesting to see and i bet according to my readings i can pin point them all

[raven grail]

Here is what I found out. All regions drop a specific amount, and specific type of wood. my previous readings on 2 trees looked to be wrong, and in fact I believe they were. what i can for a fact tell you:

Plaza and Meadow will drop 15 wood max, the rest will drop 20 wood max. a single tree will drop about 10 wood - my theory is if it cant be placed, it doesn't and will not give you wood. but will attempt again at the next iteration - see the Preferred tree distance above.
To have max amount of wood, you need enough room around the trees to drop a piece. if there is enough room, it'll drop. wood drops at timed intervals. I didn't test anything but plaza trees since I'm aiming at a min max system (and small trees).

one tree per region is not enough. assuming you had a perfect placement, you can only get 16 total wood in preferred placement (see blue Xs). that's extremely unlikely you'd get this placement. by adding more trees, bad placement no longer is an issue because more places will be available. for min max space, 2 trees are necessary, but 3 will cover bad placement (and other items in the space). and of course, any more will cover unlucky drops to occupied spots as stated above.

[edgy minnow]

I’m testing respawn timers now, and I checked back to my initial DM to you and I did not say anything about respawn timer (so I’m not sure why I was credited with this data in the initial post? 🤔) None the less, in my early stages of testing this bit about certain woods taking longer to spawn does not appear to be true. I will be tracking more data on it before I can say definitively.
However, please remove respawn timer part as I am not sure where that info came. The only part of the guide I contributed to was regarding biomes effecting wood type drop and not the style of tree.

[mental talon]

Hi Minty! So the respawn timer information was me stating that we did not have the information on the spawn timers.

I can simply move the credit message part above that part if you don't feel comfortable 🙂

The guides are made by the community, hence why the bottom part is also credited to another member.

[raven grail]

"we have no data on percentages" we do now!

[stiff granite]

Hello Good morning... I have a slight problem, I manage a group of Disney in Spanish. In which All my players are having trouble getting wood. Will any of you have the same situation? that their trees do not give them wood?

[tiny plover]

i have finished all quests! but i still have two quest items that i dont know what to do with

i have extra pickled herring and a vial of freezing water

[raven grail]

Wrong chat.

[raven grail]

Read above. Most likely their issue is the bridge is still blocked - and the max drops a zone has for sticks is 20. You can fix and move the well and teleport to the other side, you can turn on furniture move mode and move the sticks to the other side, or you can complete the quests to unlock other sides. As I have written in the pins, you could also just delete all but 2-4 trees to make it easier to spawn them where you want.

If they "time traveled", they have to wait until the time they traveled to. After that, time will be nornal and things will drop.

[stiff granite]

Thanks.

[unkempt linden]

Do you mind if I add the little spawn spots thing to my spreadsheet?

[raven grail]

Have at it.

[unkempt linden]

Thanks ❤️

[raven grail]

Is this the master sheet with everything going around?

[unkempt linden]

Yea

[mossy harness]

I pick up every piece of wood and still don't get any hardwood. Actually I don't get much of anything except softwood

[raven grail]

Interesting. I'm getting my proper spread. I'll show a spread sheet of what I get in a bit. Some areas have different drops, read above if you are not getting your full 20 drops a day.

[unkempt linden]

Hardwood Drops from these Biomes
Forgotten Lands Frosted Heights Forest of Valor Glade of Trust Sunlit Plateau

If you don't have them open that's why you are not getting any.

[raven grail]

most recent drops - i assume its still going to be a bit RNG, but i think i saw the scar update said it was changing stick drops. looks about the same to me

[thorn raft]

Hey! Can someone please help? I deleted all the trees in forest of valor and added 4 trees but no wood spawned. I also did 10 plaza trees still no wood. How do I get wood again in the biome?

[pine mist]

There may be something else happening. Did you change your system time?

[limber pewter]

Dry wood is much trickier to get,

[finite meteor]

So is the Spawn cap per Biome or per Zone, like 4 trees on each side of river in frost biome or just 4 trees in frost biome?

[raven grail]

Spawn cap per biome. It's why so many people have complained why they don't get drops - they are on the other side of rivers. So 15 on the 2 starter zones, and 20 for the rest (0 on beach)(total 130 wood dropped from trees at any given point). Also more trees = more places to spawn. So min/maxing you only need about 3 trees to get your nornal wood drops per biome.

[finite meteor]

Ok, thats what I thought too. I have 3 trees in each biome but thinking about changing them out for the plaza ones, i know what they will drop diesnt change but i always felt like the plaza ones spawn faster?

[winter jasper]

[bitter kelp]

It might feel like they spawn faster because, in the Plaza, they spawn only softwood, and that's like, what, 5 minutes I think I read? If the spawning rate is determined by the biome and not the tree type, then no matter what tree you have in a biome, wood will spawn at the rate set for that area. 🙂

[snow path]

you should also try to have 4-5 trees per biome for best spawn rates. 🙂

[finite meteor]

Ok, as i will have them near each other anyway i can make a nice square with the stall, well and the trees. Add in a workbench and some chests and a little bit of farm plot and done with redecorating ☺️👍

[winter jasper]

bump

[edgy minnow]

I’m pretty late to seeing this, but deleting the pre-existing trees isn’t enough for a successful wood farm. We must also gather all the branches in the biome. So, after removing the trees, there is a somewhat tedious process of combing through every tile to find all the old fallen branches. (15 at plaza/meadow and 20 for all the other wood producing biomes)

[edgy minnow]

Max wood spawn is 20. As long as there is enough space around each tree, 3 is fine. (See above graphic from sxespanky #1020544640438513733 message )

Here is my very consistent 20 drop farm using 3 but as the linked post above points out, even 2 trees is suitable when spaced correctly.

[raven grail]

Exactly what I do essentially

[livid herald]

Do I just place topiaries in the forgotten lands and get rid of all other trees to get more food?

[snow path]

you can if you want to. It doesn't matter the tree type, but you need 4-5 of any kind of tree in a biome to get the wood.

Just make sure you are picking up ALL the wood, not just what you need. I know they've changed this a bit but I'm not sure how it works just yet

[raven grail]

weighted rolls i believe - roll RNG 100 sided dice, depending on the region - it might be something like 0-40= soft,41-65 = hard, 65-90 = ..., 91-100 = ...

so percentile chance

[manic halo]

Could you show me/us how do you have the other biomas?

[raven grail]

Tree wise? I just have 3 in each biome now. O = tree and X= space.

XXOXXXXOXXXXOXX

each tree is padded by 2 spaces in all directions.

[manic halo]

I mean how you have arranged the different biomes, I liked how you have the one in the photo.

[raven grail]

The other biomes are essentially barron. I have a path to all mining nodes, and a farm with all native plants (3x4) and a larger cotton in the Savanah. I had to take a break from the game after scar update since there was too many bugs for me to enjoy the game. I'll revisit closer to next update. The only greatly populated area is the first zone with my massive pumpkin farm, storage, shops/food, fruit farm, and wallee+Moana farms. Makes it a 1 stop. ( for min max playstyle)

[edgy minnow]

I have updated my wood advice since the latest update <@&994257677192536106>

Here is the spreadsheet that goes over the new wood spawn drops which I will continue to update as needed.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10HjxB38UqUybIzWXONfUCAdLFmlYzbdFBADgs1pg3B8/edit

“@ AppFollow Reply Bot#2167” (also is this app follow reply account when I searched for Dreamlight Moderator an imposter?)

[mental talon]

I am more than happy to create a brand new guide to pop this in!

Will archive this one and allow you to be the first to post in it! So give me just a moment!

#1050986245829955685 - This channel will not be archived.

[snow path]

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